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CrazyFiremantrying to to update to 12.04 from 11.10 and the install is hung on downloading dropbox..4% and i cant exit it?00:12
CrazyFiremanwhat can i do to cancel it?00:14
codepalwhy are both google-chrome & chromium-browser crashing in Precise?01:45
codepalanybody else having issues with it?01:46
codepalit's Segmentation Faulting01:46
codepalfor me01:46
Logan_wfm01:49
trismcodepal: if it is happening randomly, may be: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/92921902:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping()" [High,Triaged]02:05
codepaltrism, not random02:05
codepalbeen waiting weeks for some sort of fix to be updated, I assumed it was a kernel problem02:06
mkultra_im amd 64 works good over here02:08
trismcodepal: ahh, mine works fine most of the time, but rarely I will get the above crash02:09
mkultra_im 12.04 amd64 and it works ok02:09
mkultra_is it upon load?02:09
codepalyup02:09
cc11rocksHow stable will 12.04 be in comparison to 11.10?02:09
codepalanytime, repeatable02:10
codepalbit annoying, I like to have 3 browsers to manage web development with02:10
tc_me11.10 = levono02:10
mkultra_your probably missing something like a back end package02:10
mkultra_i can get mine to load and unload fine02:10
mkultra_browsed fine too02:11
codepalI'm using webup8 team & unity teams repos02:11
codepalso that's probably wots wrong with it all02:11
trismcodepal: did you try a clean profile? chromium-browser --temp-profile02:11
codepalyup02:13
mkultra_whats your hardware etc02:13
codepalrm -R on /home/$user$/.config/google-chrome -- or chromium02:13
codepaltoshiba l300, i38602:13
mkultra_$HOME/.config02:14
codepalmkultra_, same things02:14
mkultra_homes quicker =D02:14
codepalIntel Mobile 4 Chipset02:14
codepal:,( - quicker is not always better02:15
mkultra_$user$ u say?02:15
codepalback to the problemo, I will investigate by doing a fresh install on another HDD, without all the extra repos that I've added....02:15
mkultra_i suggest building a usb stick that you can use as a boot02:16
codepalyeah well02:16
mkultra_i use usb to test if its my os or not02:16
cc11rocksWill Ubuntu 12.04 (and the 3.2 kernel) have support for the Intel Atom N2600 and Intel Atom N2800 processors?02:16
codepalHDD's are more in plenty than  USB sticks are round  here....02:16
codepaleach to his own02:16
mkultra_unetbootin is epic u should give it a try one of these days lol02:17
codepalmkultra_, I did try - and it was an epic fail02:17
mkultra_really?02:17
codepalreally02:17
mkultra_u might be having epic ubuntu fails though02:18
mkultra_i have one, my wifi dont work02:18
codepalthat's how you learn stuff02:18
codepalI love making things die horribly02:18
codepallike a mouse or frog, slowly dissecting02:18
codepalyou get the picture?02:18
mkultra_my pc's known to over heat and fry the wifi out though02:18
cc11rocksAre there a list of supported processors for the kernel/Ubuntu anywhere?02:18
codepaloverheat?02:18
mkultra_yeah, its a laptop, with amd technology02:19
codepalever tried cleaning, or using a cooling pad etc?02:19
codepalthis toshiba fried02:19
codepalinverted screen problem in graphics card02:19
codepalno good on windows02:19
mkultra_my cooling pad is markers in x paterns and a fat person fan02:19
codepalacceptable with xcalib in linux though :P02:19
mkultra_i have a hp dv900002:20
codepaltry a grill under you laptop, just give it air main02:20
mkultra_i need the tv card for it so i can watch crock huntin on discovery02:20
codepals/main/man/02:20
codepaland don't be afraid to use a screwdriver to clean internal fans02:20
mkultra_i have a shop vac02:20
mkultra_screw drivers not midevil enough02:22
codepalnice lappy02:23
codepalshop vac doesn't get the crust off the fan02:24
codepalbelieve me, these lappies get awfully dirty02:24
mkultra_its not bad02:24
mkultra_i use a remote keyboard / mouse02:24
mkultra_i never touch mine02:25
mkultra_its like new to the next buyer lol02:25
codepaland the build up in-front of cooling fins is phenomenal02:25
codepalI prefer cleaning a desktop02:25
codepalsome houses breed dust02:25
codepaland I clean laptops & desktops about once a month each02:26
mkultra_i let mine build up02:27
codepalwhich is why you'll burn out and get graphics problems02:27
mkultra_nah....02:28
mkultra_its wifi problems with this type of pc02:28
codepalhmm, always has to be something I guess02:29
mkultra_ive had a few of these laptops, 1 was fried wifi repaired at the factory and doa02:29
codepalso you like Precise ?02:29
mkultra_its ok02:29
mkultra_breaks alot of my goodies02:29
mkultra_so not really02:29
codepaltoys are nice02:30
mkultra_at least it didnt fry my web server stuff02:31
eadzI've been using 12.04 for a few weeks, did an update today and now many applications don't have any styling on the menus and buttons, like they are all square and ugly ( look like GTK1 or something ). any ideas?02:38
nabukadnezar43hi, is there a workaround for the aptd bug?02:39
Daekdroomeadz, are you using the default theme?02:39
nabukadnezar43i'm using xubuntu, don't know if it'll make any difference02:39
eadzDaekdroom: ambiance? yeah02:41
DaekdroomOdd.02:41
DaekdroomIt didn't break for me today, but there might have been more updates.02:41
eadzin advanced settings ( gnome-tweak-tool ) my shell theme dropdown menu is blank. is that the terminal theme or something else?02:42
DaekdroomThat is Gnome Shell's theme.02:43
DaekdroomYou don't have it installed.02:43
eadzI think it's a bug becasue half of apps have themes, and some don't..02:43
DaekdroomCan you point examples of apps that do and that do not?02:44
DaekdroomThe last update to the light-themes package is from 4 days ago.02:45
eadzfirefox02:46
eadzpgadmin02:46
Daekdroomfirefox is still compiled with GTK2.002:46
eadzok, i guess my gtk2.0 theme stopped working02:47
eadzthat makes a lot of sense as the broken apps are also older etc02:47
eadzis there a way to set a gtk2 theme?02:47
LukeI just had an update to grub and now when I boot my computer says "error: out of partition" - any idea what's wrong/how to fix?02:48
hggdhhuh. Where's bluetooth?02:49
Daekdroomhggdh, system settings02:49
hggdhDaekdroom: yeah. Cannot activate it. On *any* of my precise machines02:49
hggdh(bluetooth-applet:2613): Gdk-WARNING **: bluetooth-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.02:51
Daekdroomeadz, themes can have both gtk2 and gtk3 versions together, and you shouldn't have to do anything to set the other one.02:51
DaekdroomI can change mine through Tweak Tool and Appearance Properties with no problems.02:52
eadzso maybe the gtk2 part of the default theme broke? I can post a screenshot but I'm sure you can imagine what it looks like.. I guess my symptom is update -> all gtk2 apps got uglier..02:52
nabukadnezar43Luke: looks like you've a messed up grub configuration02:53
nabukadnezar43but i'm not sure02:53
nabukadnezar43checking the ubuntuwiki for grub configuration is all i can suggest02:53
ssfdre38is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS going to use kernel 3.3.102:54
nabukadnezar43ctrl+alt+f2 to get a terminal without x02:54
Daekdroomssfdre38, it's using the 3.2 series02:54
nabukadnezar43and use nano to edit grub02:54
hggdhpfui, a lot of applets are giving out err 11 on X02:56
andrewacltIs anybody using iwlagn and 802.11n?03:48
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glosoliAnyone knows is this usual that TouchPad response time in laptop is bitter than using Mouse ?05:04
alkisgIn previous versions, I could click the pidgin icon in the panel to hide its main window. Now, how can I find the pidgin icon in the gnome-classic session?06:10
alkisgAre all non-gnome program icons deliberaty hidden in gnome-classic, or they just need to be updated to use some newer gnome library/functions?06:11
alkisg*deliberately06:11
sandGorgonis anyone else having broadcom wifi troubles after latest update - I'm getting constant (within a few seconds) disconnection of my wifi06:13
tmhi. i have a problem with my notebook - the screen doesn't really "refresh". when i log on with lightdm the logon screen is still rendered on my xubuntu-desktop. it does not really "redraw". gpu is intel07:57
hank3three3tioll now, the updates I have been getting for 12.04 have been opk, and havent done much damage, a few bugs have appeared, but I have reported them, but today, I had an update, and it did something to the grub, it said it couldnt install the grub, and the grubmight not work.....so I carried on, and now, after I click on the grub, I get this error message saying 'error invalid blocklist. Press any key to continue, anybody know what i08:02
hank3three3s wrong and how I can get over it?08:02
ikoniacheck what devices grub is using08:04
hank3three3how do I do that?08:04
ikoniaand if you know you are making typos please don't cut and paste the typos into another channel08:04
ikonia]do you get the grub boot menu ?08:05
hank3three3yes, then after I click on it the error appears08:05
ikonia"click" ?08:06
ikoniais it not a text menu ?08:06
hank3three3ok, hit enter08:06
hank3three3sorry08:06
ikoniaI'm asking as people often don't know what they are doing, so don't know what "grub" is, so if you "click" it, it may not be grub, that's why I was asking for clarification, not to be picky08:07
hank3three3and by the way, I justtt looked over what I pasted, and I dont have any errors from what I can see, as I checked them all08:07
ikoniahank3three3: press "e" instead and look at the entry you are booting and make sure the info matches up08:07
ikoniainvalid block list08:07
ikoniais that the exact error ?08:07
hank3three3yes08:08
ikoniaand if there are no typos, why did you say in #ubuntu-uk "sorry for the typos"08:08
ikoniaactually, I can't be bothered, good luck08:08
hank3three3because in ubuntu uk there were error08:08
ikoniait's the same cut and paste08:08
ikoniagood luck sorting it out, can't be bothered arguing with you while trying to help you08:08
hank3three3I didnt start the argument, you did08:09
hank3three3forget it08:09
ikoniaalready have08:09
hank3three3dont need your attitude it stinks08:09
ikoniaok08:09
hank3three3and what the hell are you doing brining something from another channel anyway08:10
ikoniatrying to help you08:10
ikoniaif you paste soemthing that is wrong in a channel, and then re-past it, it's not helpful as it doesn't get the message across clear08:10
hank3three3no you werent you were starting an argument08:10
ikoniathat's why I raised "click" as a query08:10
ikonianot at all08:10
ikoniajust trying to help you get the info across clearly08:10
ikoniaanyway, good luck08:10
hank3three3you started an argument08:10
hank3three3dpnt [ush it back on me08:11
ikoniaI didn't argue08:11
ikoniaI asked you to clarify your information,08:11
ikoniagood luck08:11
hank3three3yeh right08:12
hank3three3brilliant, now I am going to have to say it again,l after that petty outburst, till now, the updates I have been getting for 12.04 have been opk, and havent done much damage, a few bugs have appeared, but I have reported them, but today, I had an update, and it did something to the grub, it said it couldnt install the grub, and the grubmight not work.....so I carried on, and now, after I click on the grub, I get this error message s08:17
hank3three3aying 'error invalid blocklist. Press any key to continue, anybody know what is wrong and how I can get over it?08:17
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SteevcaI can't get my network to work.The network manager is reporting that the device isn't ready.09:53
pawelerohi, I've just played with 12.04 beta 2 and I launched telepathy client09:57
pawelerobut it's hardly usable without any icon in the panel09:57
pawelerois there any way to have such icon?09:57
paweleroI'm talking about Kubuntu09:58
Tm_Tpawelero: this is Ubuntu or Kubuntu?09:58
Tm_Tah,09:58
Tm_Tpawelero: I believe it's still under some work(?) although I get it under message indicator09:58
paweleroTm_T: I didn't check this one ;)09:59
paweleroand that makes a difference09:59
paweleroI'll give it a try, thanks10:01
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Adyswhat channel is appropriate for lightdm dev?11:06
ironm!lightdm11:09
ironmhmm ... no entry11:10
slowpokehello11:17
slowpokeI've got an issue with 12.04 , but i am not sure its specifically related to that specific release. it just so happens that i've started using ubuntu at this version.11:17
slowpokeSpecifically, i've got two USB hdd which when connected output "new HIGH speed device" in dmesg, but read performance is still around 1MB/s and progressivley decays over time.11:18
slowpokecopying over a few hundred gigs took over two days11:18
slowpokeand now its been churning for an hour copying mere 4 gigs11:18
slowpokewhat could this be?11:19
ironmhello. Please allow me one question. I use XCP 1.5 (xen) as host and I can successfully install ubuntu-server 11.10 as VM but I am running into a "CD-ROM mount" issue with ubuntu-server 12.04. More detals are in: xcp1.5-ubuntu-server12.04.error.txt - http://paste.debian.net/161870/12:02
ironmcan anyone confirm this issue? Thank you in advance for any hints.12:03
psypher246hello all, is there anyone here who knows the name of the peice of software which detects that you do not have the correct codecs when playing a media file and then attempts to install it?12:29
psypher246does anyone know how to acticate that script?12:29
c0rnelhello all12:30
c0rnelis nvidia driver known to work on 12.04?12:31
ZarroBoogsc0rnel: iirc, there was a something in the release notes about nvidia, you might want to take a look.12:35
c0rnelZarroBoogs, thank you12:35
c0rnelthings are like this: (on a remote friends computer) http://fpaste.org/xuR5/12:41
c0rnelwhat should be done? X doesn't start, it seems12:41
ironmHello. Probably this channel is the more appropriate one. Does anyone run ubuntu-server 12.04 on XCP 1.5 host? (free xen-server)12:44
itaylor57c0rnel, did you try running sudo apt-get install -f as suggested12:44
c0rnelshe's trying it now12:44
c0rnelit's replacing old unity with new unity12:44
c0rnelitaylor57, thank you12:44
elijahWhat package would I file a bug against for USB hardware?12:46
elijahUbuntu 12.04 beta 2 won't keep logitech usb nano receiver attached on resume from standby12:47
psypher246hi all, how does one get develpoer attention to bugs you logged that don't get looked at?12:47
philinuxelijah: ubuntu-bug linux would be my choice12:47
elijahphilinux: thanks12:47
philinuxelijah: They could have told you that in #ubuntu as it's a generic question anyway12:48
elijahpsypher246: I would rest assured they are looked at, it is just that devs either have their plate full or don't know how to fix that issue just yet, the more reports the better though, that way the pieces of the puzzle can be filled in but just maybe not right away12:48
elijahphilinux: All good, I forgot this channel existed anyways12:49
psypher246logged in 2012-02-21, nothing attemded12:49
psypher246https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/93770012:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 937700 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 12.04, compiz snap plugin behaves inconsistently when dragging snapped windows in Expo mode" [Undecided,New]12:49
philinuxelijah: How's the testing going with you12:49
elijahphilinux: To be honest, pretty buggy :D12:50
elijahphilinux: I just got the test computer, can't compare with how 11.10 ran on it12:50
philinuxelijah: Ah ok, rock solid here. Maybe it's machine specific problems12:50
elijahphilinux: Probably, a Thinkpad W510 multi-touch screen12:51
elijahphilinux: two years old12:51
philinuxelijah: acer 1410 and my desktop is a local builder machine with asus mobo amd cpu and nvidia 8600gt12:52
elijahphilinux: I do like where Ubuntu is headed, quite a few paper cuts still but getting better daily!12:53
elijahphilinux: I notice some of the apps still have window focus issues, that was a big paper cut I was hoping to be resolved in Pangolin12:54
philinuxelijah: Which apps12:54
elijahphilinux: I totally jumped from KDE when I tested Ocelot12:55
elijahphilinux: For one, ubuntu-bug, which I filed a bug on12:55
snadgenx server is broken.. argh :p12:55
elijahphilinux: A few others but I haven't reported them yet, I reported about 5 bugs yesterday and have only been testing since yesterday12:56
Paul24so i thought i'd try out the beta, any suggestions on where to go if after clicking 'install xubuntu' [using xubuntu variant], it locks up with a black screen? ;/12:56
elijahNot sure me testing now will have any significant affect on Pangolin but maybe for Q it will12:57
psypher246elijah: I understand that more reporst are better, but then surely wouldn't it be at least required to mark my bug as a peice of the puzzle instead of not attending to it at all?12:57
elijahPaul24: Are you running old hardware?12:57
Paul24nah, new12:57
Paul24it's an atom 2700 processor box12:57
Paul24in theory, with 64bit enabled12:58
Paul24cat /proc/cpuinfo shows lm which iirc indicate 64bit support in processor12:58
elijahpsypher246: Possibly, but understand that many devs are at max capacity and maybe they just haven't had a chance to look at it yet12:58
Paul24i've used a usb pen with xubuntu as boot disk, once i hit 'install xubuntu' it hangs - no keyboard input etc12:58
elijahPaul24: Why not try Ubuntu then? I put xubuntu on low spec machines12:58
Paul24unity seemed to be struggling on it12:59
Paul24albeit that was on like alpha 2, so might have changed13:00
Paul24there was a suggestion I read at that point that newer kernel's then what's going to be in 12.04 would be needed for proper support of the cpu/chipset13:00
Paul24however, that was my reading a month or so ago now13:01
elijahPaul24: Wouldn't hurt to give that a spin then, eh? Could save a lot of time. Unless you have an urge to hunt bugs down :D13:01
Paul24tbh, as i'm more likely to use a terminal then gui, I'd figured lightweight might be easier13:03
psypher246 is there anyone here who knows the name of the peice of software which detects that you do not have the correct codecs when playing a media file and then attempts to install it?13:03
elijahPaul24: For development I prefer terminal too but when I do use GUI I really like the new Ubuntu (aka Unity)13:04
elijahPaul24: I see what you are saying though, guess it isn't turning out to be easier in this case13:04
Paul24or I do a server install and add a gui later13:05
Paul24that could work13:05
Paul24in any case, I think 3.2.0 might be too old for the hardware, so gonna have fun with whatever I do13:07
psypher246elijah: do you use multi monitors?13:07
elijahWhere is the bug to make Launchpad look nicer?13:07
elijahlol13:07
elijahpsypher246: I do13:08
psypher246elijah: gfx driver? nv, nouveau or ati?13:08
elijahpsypher246: nvidia13:08
psypher246elijah: when you zoom out (super+s) do you get the same weird issues i mentioned in that bug, apps jumping to other desks when you click on it?13:09
psypher246elijah: when you drag apps to other desks does the screen flicker and desks switch around?13:10
elijahpsypher246: Do you mean snap as in super + s?13:11
psypher246I understand snap to be the compiz feature that snapps the window to space on the desktop13:12
psypher246expo is the zoom out ctrl+s13:12
psypher246seeing all desktops at the same time essentially13:12
psypher246and being able to move apps around13:12
elijahpsypher246: I am running dual on my 11.10 setup right now, my new W510 is running Pangolin and I won't be setting that up fully until tomorrow when my Intel 510 SSD gets here :D, I can't test right now13:13
psypher246ok cool13:13
elijahpsypher246: It doesn't do that on 11.10 though, that's for sure13:13
psypher246snap and expo has been broken since oneiric was relased13:14
elijahpsypher246: Have you tried the Nvidia driver?13:14
psypher246elijah: not yet. i prefer the nouveau cos then you can use ubuntu's multimonitor tools and not the crappy nvidia one13:14
elijahpsypher246: I understand your preference and I am not suggesting to use it permanently but it would help the devs rule out that variable13:15
psypher246elijah: yeha i know what you mean. i will try it out13:15
psypher246but i am afraid that if no-one has even seen my bug for 3 months that it's not going to get looked at any time soon13:15
elijahpsypher246: never know but if it were me I would try Nvidia and then report back saying it does/does not happen with Nvidia13:16
elijahpsypher246: Looked at the video and yeah it appears to have nothing to do with graphics drivers13:17
psypher246my gut tells me the issue is with snap. there are so many issues with it I can;t even start to explain. but it's the one feature of compiz/unity i love the most, and it looks like canonical devs are crippling it even more. worked SO well in natty , but since then it's not happy13:19
psypher246elijah: brb installed nvidia13:20
elijahpsypher246: Oh wait, you mention flicker in your bug, which I didn't see in your video.13:20
snadgeanyone here using nx with precise?13:26
snadgeim trying to run gnome-session --session gnome-fallback13:26
snadgei get a desktop background.. then the window just disappears and i get a server disconnect message13:26
snadgei forget where the log file is13:28
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c0rnelanybody have seen this?13:39
c0rnelhttp://fpaste.org/w1zQ/13:39
philinuxc0rnel: use dist-upgrade but be careful if it wants to remove important stuff13:41
philinuxc0rnel: or use synaptic13:41
c0rnelphilinux, this is in 12.04, apparently13:41
philinuxc0rnel: precisely13:41
c0rnelthe problem is x is not starting , yet :)13:41
c0rnelphilinux, ok13:41
c0rneli'll try dist-upgrade13:41
philinuxc0rnel: just be careful and read what it says before hitting the Y13:42
c0rnelsure13:44
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GeminiDominoPossibly a stupid question: When Precise is released, will updating from the beta just be a matter of a dist-upgrade?13:58
ZarroBoogsThats correct.13:58
GeminiDominoOkay, groovy. Thank you13:58
snadgesomeone help me with nx.. i want to cry :p14:01
philinuxsnadge: ask away.14:05
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c0rnelphilinux, http://fpaste.org/PhWq/14:17
c0rneldante-server is causing problems14:17
c0rnelcan i tell apt-get to skip that package?14:18
philinuxc0rnel: I dont know what that is. Are you using it14:18
c0rnelno14:19
c0rneli'll try to remove it14:19
philinuxc0rnel: It's not installed on my machine so try sud apt-get purge dante-server14:20
philinux^typo14:20
c0rnelok then14:20
snadgewell.. my nx session just gets terminated14:20
snadgeand i cant see any indication in nxserver.log as to why.. even with log level set to 714:21
philinuxsnadge: Dont run nx maybe someone else will chine in14:22
snadgeive tried both nomachines nx server free edition, and a ppa for freenx-server14:22
philinuxsnadge: Maybe a post here might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=41214:23
snadgei could give that a shot14:24
khamerI think I've found a bug with wmctrl, but I'm not sure where/who I should try to troubleshoot it with, Xorg?14:26
khamerOr, can I get someone else who has wmctrl to do a simple test for me?14:27
philinuxkhamer: ubuntu-bug wmctrl14:27
philinuxkhamer: there is the channel #xorg14:28
khamerphilinux: Because of the nature of the problem, I'm not sure if its wmctrl's fault or the app I'm trying to resize's fault14:28
khamerI'll try #xorg14:28
Timmyis kernel 3.3 included in 12.04?14:30
bazhang!info linux | Timmy14:30
ubottuTimmy: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.21.23 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel armhf powerpc)14:30
philinuxAnyone using xchat?14:33
bazhangphilinux, yep14:33
philinuxbazhang: Great. I installed xchat-indicator but if try to run it it says command not found but on starting xchat it says plugin loaded14:34
philinuxI was expecting somethin in the indicator area top right14:34
bazhangyeah, I recall that14:34
philinuxbazhang: Do you know what the indicator does?14:35
trismphilinux: it should add it to indicator-messages14:36
bazhangphilinux, it puts a big indicator out when you have certain things highlighted, such as your nick, or whatever is included in you r list of things to highlight. for me I have certain curse words as I moderate a couple of channels, as well as my nick and so on14:37
philinuxbazhang: Not getting anything14:37
philinuxbazhang: you mean a notification14:37
bazhangphilinux, much as transmission does for torrents completed or handbrake with rips14:37
philinuxbazhang: Before I installed it I was getting notifications but not now14:38
philinuxI think I'll purge it14:39
bazhangphilinux, thats odd14:39
bazhang!info xchat-indicator14:39
ubottuxchat-indicator (source: xchat-indicator): XChat Indicator Plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.10-0ubuntu4 (precise), package size 8 kB, installed size 65 kB14:39
c0rneli don't understand this, it says waiting for network configuration ...14:39
c0rnelthen14:39
c0rnelbooting without full network config14:39
c0rneland just sits there14:40
* philinux is rebooting xchat14:40
c0rnelhow can i boot ubuntu in verbose mode?14:41
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: press ESC when plymouth shows14:42
c0rnelyas, but i'd like more details, ActionPa1snip14:42
c0rneljust sits there, after displaying check battery state14:42
c0rneli'll check if there's a quiet in the command line14:42
c0rnelit seems that apache2 server is hanging14:43
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: what GPU do you use?14:44
c0rnelnvidia14:45
c0rnelhow can i enter recovery mode? it asks for the root password :)14:46
c0rnelbut nobody knows the root password ...14:46
c0rnelif there's such thing14:46
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: did you install the proprietary driver yet?14:47
c0rnelit's a friend's computer.  the system no longer boots normally. i'm trying to get a recovery shell. i know the user's password, but ubuntu is asking for root's password14:49
c0rnelActionPa1snip, it's installed14:49
c0rnelthis is upgraded from 11.1014:49
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: try uninstalling it, you can use a chroot from liveCD14:49
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: ubuntu doesn't have a root pas14:49
c0rnelsure14:50
c0rnelthat's why i can't enter recovery mode :)14:50
c0rneli'll try a live cd14:50
c0rnelif i have one :)14:50
jo-erlendcan someone please help me confirm a crasher bug? It only takes a couple of minutes; 1) open Rhythmbox. 2) open the Ubuntu One Music Store. 3) Find some song and play a preview of it. 4) while the preview is playing, click to play another one. 5) Tell me if Rhythmbox crashes.14:52
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: its one of teh reasons why it shouldn't be set14:54
c0rnelhm?14:54
c0rnelActionPa1snip, recovery mode offers an "enter root shell" option because the root passsword is not set?14:55
* c0rnel is confused14:55
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: it should offer a root recovery mode14:57
c0rneli don't remember the exact title14:58
c0rnelbut i remember it asks for the root password :)14:58
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: it should drop to the shell without any challenge14:59
c0rnelhmmm15:00
c0rnelagain it stops after checking battery state ...15:00
c0rnelcan anybody tell me where is the waiting for network configuration message come from?15:03
c0rneloh15:04
c0rnelso what actually happens is that X is not starting, i can switch to text mode just fine15:04
c0rnelis nvidia-common a dependency for ubuntu-desktop ?15:08
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ActionPa1snipc0rnel: i believe so yes15:09
c0rnelActionPa1snip, thank you15:09
c0rneli'll leavi ti then15:09
c0rnelActionPa1snip, do you have any experience with nouveau in ubuntu?15:10
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: a little, it works on my 6150 just fine but with the 295 driver its a little smoother15:11
c0rnel295 is the last one?15:11
c0rneli've removed nvidia-current, and now i only get a garbage on screen and no more text mode15:12
philinuxbazhang: my notification s are back now I purged xchat-indicator15:12
c0rnelmmm15:13
yofelc0rnel: well, if X doesn't start, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?15:14
c0rnelyofel, i'll check next time i'll be able to :)15:14
yofelif you only removed the nvidia-current package with apt, not jockey, you'll need to move /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way by hand if you didn't15:15
bazhangphilinux, ok. I originally had a PPA for that. I recall having to do likewise. sorry not to help15:16
ActionPa1snipc0rnel: in the xorg edgers update (less fresh more stable)15:16
c0rnelyofel, thank you15:16
c0rnelyofel, done15:18
philinuxbazhang: Cheers. I noticed there is also xchat-gnome-indicator15:19
c0rnelyofel, no joy15:19
c0rneli'll attempt nomodeset15:19
c0rneloh15:22
c0rneli have gui :)15:22
c0rneli wonder why network manager had no wired connection in list ...15:24
c0rnelit's not managed, it seems15:27
c0rneli see traces of systemd, is ubuntu going to use systemd someday?15:31
ratcheerc0rnel: Good question. I like systemd.15:31
AaronMTHello, where online might I find a general summary of what's new in 12.0415:41
ActionPa1snipAaronMT: http://www.tuxtrix.com/2012/03/whats-new-in-precise-pangolin-ubuntu.html15:47
ActionPa1snipAaronMT: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111269/what-is-new-in-12-0415:47
babbleis that a blogger theme I haven't seen? hehe.15:47
triptecI just installed 12.04, and it seems grub crashes, I looked for menu.lst but it doesn't exist, should it?15:50
bazhangtriptec, menu.lst has been gone for several releases now15:50
bazhang!grub2 | triptec please have a read15:51
ubottutriptec please have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)15:51
ActionPa1sniptriptec: grub2 uses grub.cfg which is generated by update-grub15:51
AaronMTThakns ActionPa1snip15:52
triptecActionPa1snip:  then I'll have a peak at that one.. just did a clean install but it seems like it's something with the graphics15:52
ActionPa1sniptriptec: what video chip do you use?15:53
triptecnvidia15:53
GeminiDominointeresting. I'm locking up on boot right after the CD rom is detected15:54
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GeminiDominoAnd it's detecting a mouse that doesn't exist.15:56
GeminiDominoFantastic </10th Doctor>15:56
ActionPa1sniptriptec: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=116:00
triptecyeah but I don't get anything16:01
triptecI don't get the list, like default, recovery etc16:01
triptecmemcheck16:01
GeminiDominough... nouveau has been such a PITA for me the past month...16:02
ActionPa1sniptriptec: hold shift at boot16:03
GeminiDominowierd... my 10.04 alternate install disc didn't make me put on a GUI, but the 12.04 didn't give me an option. Is that something likely to change on release (I'm not too familiar with the release process)16:06
jtrucksis anyone testing 12.04 server on a xen instance? any issues of note?16:20
BluesKajI'm not a fan of akonadi , but I like kmail , but akonadi errors contantly , the akonadi server self test has 8 errors , tried reinstalling all akonadi components in synptic , but to no avail. Any ideas?16:59
xanguawho was the idea for kmail to use akonadi¿¿17:01
xangua:/17:01
BluesKajdoesn't matter xangua , it's done deal ..have to live with it. I just want to solve my prob17:02
jtruckshow are people finding the beta2 in terms of server stability? rock solid? shaky?17:03
BluesKajjtrucks,  ubuntu-server?17:05
jtrucksBluesKaj: yeah. 12.04 beta2 server... that's what this channel is for, right? 12.04?17:05
penguin42not sure how many people on here are running server17:06
jtrucksI don't use it for a desktop, but before I deploy a new server ito production, now might be a good time to upgrade if beta2 is fairly stable...17:06
* penguin42 should give it a try17:06
* jtrucks doesn't use desktop linux much... 17:06
jtrucksmy one workstation I don't have a monitor on most of the time.. I just SSH in :)17:07
penguin42jtrucks: No! Don't upgrade until after release on a production server - although it might be wise to try it on a test box17:07
penguin42(Well of course you can, but I wouldn't!)17:07
BluesKajjtrucks, yeah , this is the place ..haven't seen any complaints17:08
jtruckspenguin42: well, I work in the Cray world where hardware and software is all alpha in production ;)17:08
jtrucksbut this is for my personal server... I'm merging a colo and a VPS on 10.04 onto a new VPS. so it's a clean slate and not running anything just yet.17:08
penguin42jtrucks: Haha never heard something said like that, well OK, live on the edge :-)17:09
jtruckspenguin42: you haven't worked with supercomputers then, right? ;)17:09
penguin42jtrucks: No, but I wouldn't mind doing17:09
jtruckstoo expensive to have test systems that are remotely the size of prod systems, so you test scale issues on the prod stuff and slap in hacks and patches all over the place :P17:09
jtruckspenguin42: we're hiring a Linux admin.17:10
jtrucksand a security admin.17:10
jtrucksactually two linux admins17:10
jtrucksall RHEL and SLES/SUSE based shop though17:10
jtruckswell, some desktops are ubuntu, but everything is migrating to RHEL with our new contract.17:10
jtrucksif interested, PM me.17:10
jtrucksI'll send you the job specs17:11
penguin42jtrucks: Nah thanks17:11
jtrucksk17:11
jtrucks:)17:11
penguin42jtrucks: Still, big machines are fun to play with17:12
jtrucksyeah, they are.17:12
jtruckssecurity is an interesting gig with this place :)17:12
GeorgeJHello folks!17:46
GeorgeJI'm having some problems trying to install beta2.17:46
GeorgeJI've created a bootable USB pendrive to install beta2 from, however, it appears that syslinux hangs.17:47
GeorgeJIt hangs with a flashing cursor after the copyright message. I can't type anything, ctrl+alt+del doesn't reboot. There appear to be several people having this issue with other versions aswell.17:48
GeorgeJEspecially with Acer laptops.17:50
xslhello guys, how do i remove unity bar from my second monitor?17:51
GeminiDominoI can never remember how to remove xorg completely... anyone have that info in active swap by any chance?  This way I can focus my testing on the "server" type setup I need?17:52
xslwhy didn't you just installed server version?17:52
GeminiDominoxsl: I needed the LVM/Raid setup on the alternate CD.17:53
GeminiDominoxsl: It didn't give me the option not to install the GUI17:54
xslwell ... just dpkg --list|grep xorg17:54
xsland try to "apt-get -s purge xserver-xorg"17:55
xslsee what it tells you it will remove17:55
mongo_I think it is ubuntu-desktop17:55
GeminiDominomongo_: That's what I thought, but it just removes the ubuntu-desktop meta-package, and not the other ones under it.17:56
xslit just remove the meta-packag17:56
xsl*meta-package17:56
xslmeta-packages are usefull to install stuff17:56
xslnot to remove it17:56
GeminiDominowhich is what I've found17:56
mongo_hrm aptitiude will remove depends17:56
mongo_maybe apt will not17:56
GeminiDominolemme try that17:57
xslapt-get will also17:57
xsland you can do later "apt-get autoremove"17:57
GeminiDominoxsl: Not for metapackages17:57
GeminiDominoxsl: or at least, not for ubuntu-desktop. Just tried it17:57
xslGeminiDomino: i told you to do "apt-get -s purge xserver-xorg"17:58
xsland believe me it will remove loads of stuff17:58
GeminiDominoxsl: It says itle remove xorg, xserver-xorg, and ubuntu-desktop17:59
GeminiDominoit'll*17:59
xslforgot the *17:59
xslyou can allways inspect the stuff you have ... just use the 2 commands i gave you17:59
mongo_oh I see, ubuntu-desktop is just an alias for ubuntu-meta now17:59
GeminiDominomost of what that's removing are video drivers... when it's done I'll see if the autoremove cleans up the apps and stuff...18:01
GeminiDominonope...18:01
mongo_GeminiDomino: do an apt-get source ubuntu-desktop18:04
mongo_if you look in at the desktop-$acrh file and remove those packages does that help?18:04
GeminiDominomongo_: Probably my best bet. Thanks18:06
mongo_they should be tracking the depends on that package though18:06
xslguys, how do i remove unity bar from my second monitor? any ideas?18:08
xslits not "unity bar"18:10
xslits the "unity launcher"18:10
trismxsl: there is the option to change it in the display settings if you don't have nvidia proprietary or anything, otherwise you can find it in ccsm at the bottom of the unity experimental tab18:12
GeminiDominomongo_: That seems to be a start. (for I in `cat desktop-amd64`)18:13
GeminiDominomongo_: Thanks18:13
mongo_GeminiDomino: no problem, good luck18:13
mongo_See, if the ubuntu-meta package did a depend on the ubuntu-desktop meta things would work, but ubuntu-meta is the one that lists the depends in /var/lib/dpkg18:16
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xsltrism: i just hidden the launcher and now i open it with ALT-F118:17
trismxsl: that works too, but there is also an option to show it only on the primary monitor18:17
ironhalik_anyone got the small grub failure with GPT?18:18
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xsltrism: tyvm for your support18:21
jinjorgetrism: after running apt-get purge grub then apt-get install grub2, the computer boots to grub rescue> prompt18:37
jinjorgeerror message says something about "invalid arch independent ELF magic"18:41
NateWI keep getting a strange crash. I'll be doing random things, then I get kicked to the login screen. How can I determine what's doing it?18:47
NateWI'd rather try to file a bug with details instead of simply saying: "it doesn't work", which helps nothing.18:50
NateWI remember having a similar issue on 11.10 when I upgrade my nvidia drivers to 295.2018:51
jinjorgeNateW: when you log back in are all the apps still running or did they get closed?18:51
NateWClosed.18:52
GeorgeJIt would appear this bug has not been resolved with 12.04 still: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177941818:53
trismjinjorge: looks like you'll need to reinstall grub, sorry about that, do you have a livecd handy?19:07
tarvidthis may even be progress19:08
jinjorgetrism: currently running via a livecd19:08
tarvidI have a grub rescue prompt19:08
jtrucksso, the 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade was flawless and I never had to leave irssi until the reboot. :)19:08
tarvidwhat to I do now?19:08
trismjinjorge: would try the method from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files and verify that /boot/grub/grub.cfg is there before rebooting afterwards19:09
trismjinjorge: if not I would do the chroot method further down, which will rebuild grub.cfg as well19:11
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markgiffordhi there. 12.04 beta2, Unity issue. When I press Super + Left/Right/Up/Down (to max/min the app window) the Unity "Keyboard Shortcuts" overlay appears immediately after. Anyone know how to amend this?19:19
jinjorgetrism: arrghhhhh... sorry this whole thing is frustrating19:19
trismjinjorge: I understand, did you try out the first grub restore method yet?19:20
jinjorgealmost less painful to reinstall 12.04 and lose all the data than to recover grub19:20
jinjorgetrism:tried using terminal19:22
jinjorgetrism:here is the sequence19:22
jinjorgesudo fdisk -l19:23
trismjinjorge: yes, it is unfortunately a bit complicated, wouldn't be a bad idea to back up your files in case it comes to a reinstall, although the chroot method almost always works for me if it comes to it19:23
jinjorgeand I get19:23
jinjorgeWARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.19:23
trismjinjorge: if you want, pastebin the output as you go, I'll take a look19:23
jinjorgeDisk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes19:23
jinjorge255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7783 cylinders, total 125045424 sectors19:23
jinjorgeUnits = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes19:23
jinjorgeSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes19:23
jinjorgeI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes19:23
jinjorgeDisk identifier: 0x0000000019:23
jinjorge   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System19:24
jinjorge/dev/sda1               1   125045423    62522711+  ee  GPT19:24
jussijinjorge: Ill unmute in a moment19:24
trismjinjorge: ahh, you have gpt, I'm not really sure if there is a different procedure for that, hold on19:25
jussijinjorge: please use a pastebin for anything over 3 or 4 lines19:25
jinjorgejussi: noted. My apologies19:25
jussijinjorge: no probs :)19:25
jinjorgetrism: here is the output for fsdik -l http://pastebin.com/Kb31sU8J19:26
jinjorgetrism: here is the output for mount /dev/sda1 /mnt http://pastebin.com/ejThP7tg19:28
trismjinjorge: did you already mount it? ls /mnt19:30
jinjorgetrism: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /mnt19:30
jinjorgeboot  EFI  grub19:30
trismjinjorge: that's all?19:31
jinjorgetrism: output for grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda19:31
jinjorgehttp://pastebin.com/J1ZVtDmY19:31
trismjinjorge: do you have a macbook?19:32
jinjorgetrism: that's all that is shows for ls /mnt19:32
jinjorgetrism: yes I do have a macbook19:32
trismjinjorge: it concerns me that we don't see more directories than that in your root partition19:37
jinjorgetrism: yeah. I am backing up the data I need and will be doing a reinstall here shortly19:38
trismjinjorge: sorry about this, I should have asked several more questions last night when we first noticed the odd grub setup19:39
jinjorgetrism: my assumption is that by installing 12.04 beta2, it will install grub219:40
jinjorgetrism:nothing for you to be sorry about. I very much appreciate your help19:42
trismjinjorge: hopefully a reinstall with fix it up and you can test out the new kernel to see if you still get the panics19:43
jinjorgetrism: yes, that's my hope too.... I'll let you know how things work out19:44
jinjorgetrism:catch you later. and thanks again!!!!19:44
trismjinjorge: good luck!19:45
jinjorgetrism:Thanks!!!19:45
ironhalikwell, thats kinda not nice19:54
ironhaliklates grub update caused my pc to not boot19:54
ironhalikstuck before splash, with cursor blinking19:54
tarvidreboot after RAID1 installation, grub enters rescue mode20:00
KM0201man, upgrades galore today20:10
ironhalikyeah20:10
ironhalikone of them killed my system :)20:10
qenghoHrm.  Network went wonky and syslog has some kernel puke.  Not sure what to report, though.  Nothing stands out.  Ideas?20:10
qenghohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/913588/20:10
qenghoA call trace with no error message is weird.20:11
KM0201ironhalik: killed your system?20:12
KM0201i hope your'e wrong20:12
KM0201cuz they are finishing up now.20:12
KM0201lol20:12
ironhalikwell, grub stopped working20:13
ironhalikand it was on the update list20:13
ironhalikkinda annoying - first real problem and its couple of weeks before release for me20:16
NateWI keep getting a strange crash. I'll be doing random things, then I get kicked to the login screen. How can I determine what's doing it?20:22
NateWI keep getting a strange crash. I'll be doing random things, then I get kicked to the login screen. How can I determine what's doing it?20:22
NateWI remember having a similar issue on 11.10 when I upgrade my nvidia drivers to 295.2020:22
djrwolfI'm planing on putting 12.04 on my laptop, how is it's support for AMD A-Series APU's?20:25
ironhalikwow, my grub got completely broken20:30
ironhalikimpressive20:30
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djrwolfI'm planing on putting 12.04 on my laptop, how is it's support for AMD A-Series APU's??20:32
mongo_djrwolf: I have a zotac ion box running it and it works well20:33
djrwolfmongo_ ok, thanks20:33
penguin42djrwolf: I don't know but I think it's got a good chance, the Radeon driver supports most stuff20:36
djrwolfpenguin42: ok, thanks20:37
penguin42djrwolf: And if the graphics fights you can always install AMDs binary driver20:38
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ironhalikok, anyone got failing grub?20:41
ironhalikdid a chroot from live cd, grub-install etc but its still the same20:41
ironhalikeven booting with shift, gives me 'GRUB' and a blinking cursor, no prompt20:41
penguin42ironhalik: What's your disk setup?20:43
ironhaliksingle disk with gpt20:44
ironhalikswapfile, encrypted home20:44
penguin42ironhalik: if you just get GRUB that's normally it managed to get the 1st bit of grub from the boot sector but can't find the rest of it20:46
flummysorry to ask this, but is the ubuntu.com frontpage deliberately pointing to TechnicalOverview/Beta1 instead of /Beta2?20:47
ironhalikrather not20:47
flummysince ~ 10+ hours20:47
ironhalikpenguin42: well, it happened freshly after simple update20:47
ironhalikpenguin42: and doing a grub-install should help20:48
penguin42ironhalik: An update from a 11.x or an update after a happy working 12.x ?20:48
ironhalikhappy working 12.0420:51
ironhalikearlie today, had an error after updating20:52
ironhaliksaying that blocklists are not good for grub20:52
ironhalikbut it booted, needed to press any key20:52
ironhalikthought it was some kind of a regression, and the next update will fix it20:53
ironhalikit broke it even further :)20:53
tarvidBoot-repair is wonderful20:55
ironhaliktarvid: tried, same resault20:55
penguin42ironhalik: I'm not sure what the boot lists are - *please* file a bug on this - if you've hit it someone else will20:56
penguin42ironhalik: I guess I'd try looking what grub-probe has to say about the devices and try running update-grub and see if it gives any debug20:57
ironhalikpenguin42: grub-probe couldnt identify the filesystem of my partition20:57
penguin42ironhalik: What filesystem *is* your partition?20:58
ironhalikext420:58
jinjorgetrism:I am back20:58
ironhalikif I install Ubuntu, on an MBR setup, with encrypted home folder21:00
ironhalikwill the encrypted container resize itself when needed?21:00
tarvidooooooooooooooo, that sounds like trouble21:00
ironhaliktarvid: yeah, Im impressed too21:01
trismjinjorge: how did the reinstall go?21:05
jinjorgetrism:went well. Fast21:07
tarvidturns out my problem was Cox21:08
tarvidshould have known better21:08
tarvidI could reach neighbors but couldn't get out21:08
trismjinjorge: good to hear21:09
jinjorgetrism: just restoring my apps and settings21:11
jinjorgetrism:all good!!!21:11
Machtinhey guys, any notes on how to install skype? :)21:12
tarvidgoogle voice is easier21:12
jinjorgeMachtin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype21:12
astraljavatarvid: It doesn't work everywhere (like here, in Finland). Machtin: What sort of problems do you have with it?21:13
Machtinastraljava: pretty much dependency problems21:14
Machtinhttp://nopaste.info/e13ea92cf1.html21:15
astraljavaMachtin: What mirror are you using? I just installed skype a couple of hours ago, so perhaps your mirror is outdated?21:18
Machtinhttp://nopaste.info/ab10bb1288.html21:19
astraljavaMachtin: Ok, so maybe the german mirror is not up-to-date. I switched to using the one without a country code, as it's always the first to get updates.21:23
Machtinastraljava: thanks, I'll try21:31
Machtinhuh, that actually seems to work :) thanks!21:33
jinjorgeanyone seen this - go to System Settings, click on Printers and the Add New Printer option is grayed out21:39
pi314no21:40
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jinjorgeif you go to the shutdown menu option, you can add a printer from there21:52
ryejbicha: hi, may I ask you regarding bug #827382 - i fixed the coherence and totem plugin for upnp, is it too late to propose some sort of fix for precise? (i am not upstream, just somebody who wants to watch stuff over UPnP)22:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 827382 in totem (Ubuntu) "Coherence uPNP plugin missing in totem in Oneiric" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82738222:09
natacusanyone been using telepathy in kubuntu 1204?22:09
ryejbicha: I attached the quilt patches to bug #880076 and now building the packages in my ppa22:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 880076 in totem (Ubuntu) "Coherence DLNA/UPnP client not showing on plugins list" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88007622:09
jbicharye: coherence isn't supported by the Totem developers any more22:10
ryejbicha: well, they fixed the plugin for GObject introspection pretty recently (albeit it did not work even with fixed coherence) and put # The Coherence framework still uses PyGTK, and thus conflicts with the new pygobject introspected bindings, is there a definite "No" somewhere?22:12
ryejbicha: I know it's been broken at least since Oneiric due to gir, but the plugin is there, it's just broken. And Coherence is so far the only upnp plugin for totem we have, and it can work - http://identi.ca/attachment/6862943522:13
jbicharye: I'd be happier re-enabling it if the totem developers did it first so please ask them about it22:14
ryejbicha: awesome, will do!22:14
jbichathey know far more about Totem than I do :)22:14
ryejbicha: the only thing is that fixed version needs to come from coherence upstream, which seems to be quite inactive lately (last update - a year ago)22:15
ryeI guess they fixed all the bugs22:16
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ryeeh, just found what jbicha meant by "not supported". They nuked it from the orbit :(22:28
foobArrrhow does compiz grid behave in 12.04? do the left/right keybindings cycle through window sizes?22:37
atpa8ahello22:59
atpa8athe beta2 server installer doesn't detect my md raid...22:59
atpa8aany help?23:00
penguin42atpa8a: Does it see the disks that make it up?23:01
atpa8ai believe so...23:01
atpa8achecking23:02
atpa8ayes23:05
atpa8ai can see them in dmesg23:05
penguin42anything about md in there?23:05
atpa8a2:0:0:0 and 3:0:0:023:05
atpa8akernel BUG!23:05
penguin42ooh fun - pastebin it?23:06
atpa8acan't :P23:06
atpa8afrom installer23:06
penguin42atpa8a: Put USB thumb disc in, copy to there?23:07
atpa8aat md.c:692023:07
atpa8ahmm23:07
atpa8athat'd work23:07
atpa8aone sec23:07
penguin42iff all else fails use a camera!23:07
atpa8a:P23:08
penguin42but that's a strictly iff all else23:08
Roastedanybody else notice 12.04 is kind of a clutz with maximizing windows to other screens?23:12
RoastedI used to be able to drag chrome tabs over and it would auto resize even tho my 2nd monitor is smaller23:12
Roastedbut now I have to make sure its smaller than the other screen, move it, then maximize. kind of LOL.23:12
atpa8ahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/913841/23:15
atpa8apenguin42: ^^23:15
penguin42atpa8a: OK, that's not good - so that's certianly in the md code; can you please file a launchpad bug on that23:17
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atpa8ahmm23:17
atpa8asure23:17
atpa8atho if i upgrade it'll work23:18
penguin42atpa8a: And it's repeatable - i.e. if you reboot and run the installer again you get the same thing?23:18
penguin42so which version does that and which version works?23:18
ironhalikanyone noticed eclipse failing to start?23:18
atpa8ayes, it's repeatable23:18
penguin42ironhalik: Running OK here23:18
penguin42ironhalik: Maybe it doesn't like the Java you've got going23:18
ironhalikhmm, for me it crashesh23:18
atpa8apenguin42: 11.10 works and if i upgrade to 12.04 it'll work too23:19
penguin42atpa8a: So - which one is failing?23:19
ironhalikpenguin42: got jdk, everything installed via apt23:19
atpa8a12.0423:19
atpa8aseems like it's just the installer tho23:19
penguin42ironhalik: I'm running with sun java 6 - so might be worth trying a different one23:20
ironhaliksure, ill try that23:20
atpa8apenguin42: not sure if it's an md or anaconda bug tho... may be the installer is missing /etc/mdadm.conf (which it does)23:24
penguin42atpa8a: No, it's a kernel bug - that kernel oops is nasty23:24
atpa8ayeah23:28
atpa8abut how come if i upgrade, it'll work with that kernel?23:28
penguin42atpa8a: Well my reading of that oops is that the oops happened running the parted process, so if you're not running that during the upgrade you're OK; also my reading of that oops is that it actually bought the RAID up ok23:30
atpa8ai see23:31
foobArrrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/878820    Do I understand that right: cycling through window sizes with compiz grid doesn't work on 12.04 (and 11.10) and that is intentional and will not change?23:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 878820 in compiz-plugins-main (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Window Management, Keyboard shortcut - The grid keybindings are behaving inconsistently" [High,Confirmed]23:32
* penguin42 wonders what Ubuntu MAAS is23:44
atpa8ai have a hunch... that i can bootstrap that ubuntu :P23:54
penguin42atpa8a: Please report the bug though - if you hit it, other people will23:56
atpa8aalready did23:56
penguin42atpa8a: Ah good, what bug number?23:56
atpa8a97296023:58
penguin42bug 97296023:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 972960 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "md fails during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97296023:58

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