[12:00] <ppisati> anyone willing to test a panda/omap4 kernel?
[12:26] <rbasak> ppisati: sure, what do you need?
[12:28] <ppisati> rbasak: just boot it and tell me if video output is ok, and if you see anything strange around (my panda's video output is broken and i'm waiting for a replacement)
[12:28] <rbasak> ppisati: ah
[12:28] <ppisati> rbasak: are you running dekstop or server edition?
[12:28] <rbasak> ppisati: I'm a server head, I don't have any video set up on my panda, sorry :-/
[12:28] <ppisati> ah
[12:28] <ppisati> :)
[12:28] <rbasak> I can tell you if serial output works if you like :-P
[12:29] <ppisati> i've serial :)
[12:29] <u1106> ppisati: are there any changes / improvements in video on the way or why do you ask?
[12:30] <ppisati> u1106: because we had a "clash" between vanilla and TI BSP video support, thus i need some to check the result of my merge
[12:30] <ppisati> *someone
[12:32] <u1106> well, I'm probably not the right one, I have an HDMI transmitter with the "red damage" myself. Was just curious whether we could expect to get DVI-D & dual output back soon ;)
[14:32] <hoonteke> Has anyone asked about -- or successfully installed -- Ubuntu on a synet07526 netbook?  I've recently acquired one, and am woefully ignorant about both ARM in general, and that netbook's specs in particular.
[14:32] <hoonteke> My first hour or so of Googling is at least proving that I have weak google-fu.  I see that Ubuntu is looking to support ARMv7+ ... does my netbook fit the bill?
[14:35] <ogra_> rsalveti, poke, did you already prepare a new pvr package for the one that infinity rejected ?
[14:46] <ogra_> hoonteke, ubuntu wont run on it
[14:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup, using update-alternatives and such
[14:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: I updated the bug last monday I guess
[14:52] <rsalveti> with the newer package
[14:53] <rsalveti> it's just missing the jockey integration
[15:55] <mkopack> Hey guys… not sure if you'd be able to help me or not…. I'm trying to get Openni_kinect for ROS working on my Pandaboard running Ubuntu 11.10. When it goes to install/compile, it's giving me the following error:
[15:56] <mkopack> ../../../../Source/OpenNI/Linux/XnUSBLinux.cpp:30:31: fatal error: libusb-1.0/libusb.h: No such file or directory
[15:56] <mkopack> is libusb something I need to add in that doesn't come built into Ubuntu?
[15:57] <mkopack> (on ARM, but does on x86?)
[16:00] <GrueMaster> mkopack: I think you need the libusb-1.0-0-dev.
[16:01] <mkopack> ok, let me give that a try
[16:01] <mkopack> Thanks
[16:02] <mkopack> Ok, so far so good!
[16:05] <LetoThe2nd> mkopack: on debianoids, the header for the libs are usually in the correspondig -dev packages. this does not only apply to libusb - just for the next header that is not found when you go on compiling :)
[16:06] <mkopack> Ah, k
[16:06] <mkopack> seems to be going… now it's just the "a watched compile never builds" wait :)
[16:07] <mkopack> damn, looks like it's trying to make a JAR for OPenNI. Guess it's time to install Java on this thing! :)
[17:04] <hoonteke> ogra_: can you give me more info on why?  e.g. Is the processor pre-ARMv7?
[17:05] <ogra_> yes, and it only has 128M
[17:05] <ogra_> and just 800x480 ... ubuntu wont be fun on this
[17:05] <ogra_> even if you could boot it (i think there might be a debian port for it, google for that)
[17:06] <hoonteke> ogra_: heh, the current Windows CE is about unusable ... do you have a suggestion for what would be a possible distro for this ...
[17:06] <hoonteke> oh debian ...
[17:06] <hoonteke> ogra_: heh, I've *been* googling, but apparently without success.  I'll try by adding in debian to my searches now
[17:06] <hoonteke> many thanks
[17:11] <rsalveti> installer crashed, lovely
[17:12] <hoonteke> ogra_: do you happen to know which processor this sucker has?  I can't seem to find a straight answer.  All I can definitively say at this point is that it's an ARM, apparently pre v7.
[17:12] <ogra_> no idea, but definitely not armv7
[17:12] <hoonteke> damn.  K, thanks.
[17:18] <avinashhm> Hi friends,  i am trying to bring up wlan on samsung s5pv310 based custom board .. module is bulit and loaded properly .. but i am facing probem in loading firmware .. I have placed the binary wl1271-fw.bin in /system/etc/firmware/ti-connectivity/wl1271-fw.bin .. but still the udev complains that firmware is missing and creates /run/udev/firmware-missing/wl1271-fw.bin .. more logs in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/913282/ .. could some
[17:18] <avinashhm>  one pls suggest where should i place the fw ..
[17:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: just got bug 972645 while installing the latest pre-built image
[17:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 972645 in ubiquity "Pre-built image installer crashed on daily image from Apr 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972645
[17:18] <rsalveti> didn't yet check the logs, just followed the report bug dialog
[17:18] <ogra_> well, last i tested was beta2
[17:18] <ogra_> that worked fine
[17:19] <rsalveti> this with the latest current image available
[17:19] <rsalveti> ogra_: did you test with selecting the auto-login option?
[17:19] <rsalveti> that was the only different thing I did this time
[17:21] <ogra_> i never ever used auto-login :)
[17:21] <ogra_> so that might be it
[17:21] <rsalveti> that could be the reason :-)
[17:22] <rsalveti> I also remember it worked with beta 2 image when not using the auto-login option
[17:22] <rsalveti> wanted to have something different this time ;-)
[17:23] <rsalveti> I wonder if the encrypt option work as well
[17:27] <ogra_> i dont think it does
[17:27] <ogra_> iirc it requires a separate /home
[17:28] <ogra_> and preinstalled also has no concept of encrypting / since you already run from it
[17:28]  * ogra_ thinks he remembers that GrueMaster filed a bug about that ages ago
[17:31] <GrueMaster> If autologin is selected, it won't encrypt /home.
[17:31] <GrueMaster> I filed a bug about that back in Karmic or Lucid.  It was fixed ages ago.
[17:32] <GrueMaster> As to current image issues, I have no clue as the QA team has taken over testing.
[17:36] <Mephisto__> hello guys! wanted to know which desktop environment/window manager do u use for ARM-based devices?
[17:38] <GrueMaster> Mephisto__: We have 1 desktop image, which is mostly identical on all platforms (arm, x86, ppc, amd64).  That uses Unity where 3D acceleration is possible, Unity-2D when acceleration isn't available.
[17:39] <Mephisto__> so it is gnome right (unity)
[17:40] <GrueMaster> The only image differences are usually where a package build takes too long to reliably include (ex: LibreOffice), or hw specific (ex: acpi tools).
[17:41] <GrueMaster> I couldn't give you the technical details of the differences/similarities of Gnome vs Unity.  That is best asked in #ubuntu-desktop.
[17:41] <Mephisto__> and performance wise, is hungry on resources?
[17:58] <xranby_ac100> Mephisto__: cpu no, memory yes
[17:59] <xranby_ac100> if you have a machine with 512mb of ram
[17:59] <xranby_ac100> then the system will use around 200mb on startup
[17:59]  * ogra_ still gets along just fine with 512M here 
[17:59] <ogra_> not using thunderbird for mail and indeed some zcache swap :)
[17:59] <xranby_ac100> the problem atre that webbrowsers today easily eat 300mb of ram. you get along fine yes like ogra say but you can run into corner cases
[18:00] <ogra_> yeah
[18:00] <ogra_> its a non issue on 1G with a system that has proper swap indeed
[18:01] <Mephisto__> seems that with embedded systems, swap is critical !
[18:02] <ogra_> ubuntu isnt an embedded distro
[18:03] <ogra_> the arm HW we support has at least 512M ram and at least an 800MHz CPU
[18:05] <GrueMaster> The closest we really come to an embedded system is with our preinstalled server images.  They are designed to run headless, and you can add whatver stack on top of the base install that you need.
[18:05] <ogra_> well, they still want at least 128M to run
[18:05] <ogra_> not actually embedded ;)
[18:06] <GrueMaster> Yes, not a true embedded image for sure.  Just as close as we get to one.
[18:06] <ogra_> i would say core is closer
[18:06] <ogra_> but a lot more work to get working indeed
[18:55] <honeypott> does anybody know how to compile kernel ubuntu package without fakeroot? I cloned a kernel git and there is no debian/rules available...
[19:01] <ogra_> ask in #ubuntu-kernel about a packaging branch you can possibly merge ...
[19:01] <ogra_> or use the right tree from the start ... there is no way to build a package if you have no debian/ dir in the tree