[00:08] <jono> cjohnston, where is the code that runs status.ubuntu.com?
[00:30] <mhall119> jono: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-work-items-tracker I think
[00:37] <jono> thanks mhall119
[00:38] <mhall119> np
[02:01] <cjohnston> jono what he said
[02:12] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[02:12] <cjohnston> np
[06:25] <dpm> good morning all!
[06:37] <jono> morning dpm!
[06:37] <jono> about to head to bed
[06:38] <jono> but if you could take a quick look at the accomplishments thread I mentioned, I would love your input
[06:38] <jono> dpm, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Specs/WebEditor (at the bottom)
[06:38] <jono> night all
[06:38] <dpm> ok, talk to you tomorrow, good night jono!
[06:41] <dholbach> good morning
[06:42] <dpm> morning dholbach!
[06:43] <dholbach> hey dpm
[10:21] <czajkowski> That Juju that you do (Part II: A magical balm to sooth your ills) -  http://blog.launchpad.net/general/that-juju-that-you-do-part-ii
[11:16] <nigelb> jcastro: You know, Community Team should totally do an AMA :D
[11:16] <nigelb> (I commented on that thread :)
[11:16] <nigelb> )
[13:02] <jcastro> nigelb: you can already AMA
[13:03] <nigelb> jcastro: You know what I mean :)
[13:22] <dholbach> hey jono
[13:23] <jcastro> jono: hey if community people want to start submitting blueprints that's ok right?
[13:23] <jono> hey dholbach, jcastro
[13:23] <jono> jcastro, not quite yet
[13:23] <jono> I want to make a few final checks first
[13:24] <jcastro> k
[13:24] <jono> dpm, as for the accomplishments thread, I copied you into an email
[13:24] <jono> did you not get it?
[13:32] <jcastro> jono: are you sitting down?
[13:32] <jcastro> jorge@lowgirl:~$ juju deploy mysql
[13:32] <jcastro> 2012-04-03 09:32:01,156 INFO Searching for charm cs:oneiric/mysql in remote charm repository: https://store.juju.ubuntu.com
[13:32] <jcastro> AWWW YEAH.
[13:33] <mhall119> sweet!
[13:33] <jcastro> then I get an error
[13:33] <jcastro> but it's soooooo close.
[13:33] <mhall119> sour
[13:34] <jono> jcastro, woooo!
[13:34] <jono> Duke Nukem Forever
[13:34] <jono> :-)
[13:34] <jcastro> hey come on, that's not fair
[13:34] <jono> lol
[13:34] <jcastro> it's not like it's other things that never get released
[13:34] <jcastro> like Grumpy
[13:35] <dholbach> Edgy was probably the closest we got to Grumpy :)
[13:35] <jono> heh
[13:35] <dholbach> unless you count the opinions of grumpy Ubuntu users ;-)
[13:35] <mhall119> juju is going to run great on Gnu/hurd
[13:36] <jono> mhall119, hey, that's not fair, we are not allowed to criticize things that came from RMS or his philosophy
[13:36]  * jcastro dreams of Unity on OS/2
[13:36] <mhall119> not even with sarcasm?
[13:37] <jono> mhall119, lol
[13:37] <dholbach> crack consumption within the community team is definitely on the rise
[13:37] <cprofitt> I dunno... when I saw him pick at the skin on the bottom of his foot and eat it...
[13:37] <mhall119> dholbach: that's gonna be one of my 12.10 goals
[13:37] <cprofitt> well... I was troubled
[13:38] <jono> cprofitt, yeah, we all were
[13:38] <mhall119> wth
[13:38] <cprofitt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
[13:38] <dholbach> how can I clear the screen in xchat-gnome?
[13:38] <dholbach> make
[13:38] <dholbach> it
[13:38] <dholbach> go
[13:38] <dholbach> away
[13:38] <dholbach> !
[13:39] <mhall119> cprofitt: I just ate, i think I'll skip the video
[13:39] <cprofitt> I would recommend that mhall119
[13:40] <czajkowski> ugh that is disgusting
[13:40] <czajkowski> seen it before
[13:41] <czajkowski> lets
[13:41] <czajkowski> help
[13:41] <czajkowski> clear
[13:41] <czajkowski> the
[13:41] <czajkowski> screen
[13:41] <dpm> jono, re: the accomplishments thread, got it now. For some reason Thunderbird had marked it as read and I hadn't seen it. Will reply to it later on today
[13:41] <jono> thanks dpm
[13:44] <cjohnston> jcastro: do you want to send out the crew email?
[13:44] <jcastro> sure
[13:44] <cjohnston> I think the email I sent you contained all of the addresses
[13:44] <jcastro> I'm doing openweek announcement right now
[13:44] <jcastro> this will go right after
[13:45] <cjohnston> sure thing
[13:50] <jcastro> did darkwing volunteer to crew?
[13:50] <jcastro> his email is missing
[13:50] <cjohnston> he told me about it
[13:51] <cjohnston> I guess he didn't click the box
[13:51] <jcastro> ok but he volunteered right?
[13:51] <jcastro> not voluntold Amber style? ;)
[13:51] <cjohnston> He PMed me and volunteered
[13:51] <jcastro> k
[13:51] <cjohnston> im workin on his email
[13:51] <jcastro> are you going to sub them to that mailing list we talked about?
[13:52] <jcastro> I can get it from lp it's not a problem
[13:52] <cjohnston> its not public in LP
[13:52] <cjohnston> although I may be looking at the wrong ID
[13:53] <cjohnston> jcastro: PMed it to you
[13:55] <jcastro> hmmm
[13:55] <jcastro> chris/mhall
[13:55] <jcastro> I think we need a UDS trello
[13:55] <jcastro> for things like crew, etc.
[13:55] <jcastro> thoughts?
[13:56] <cjohnston> sure
[13:57] <cjohnston> what I'd really like is something that easily resets every cycle so that we can just start over with the same thing and not have to recreate it.. with a timeline
[13:58] <jcastro> yeah they don't have templates yet, but I just reuse the same thing over and over for the classroom one
[13:58] <cjohnston> ok, cool
[13:59] <cjohnston> I'm ok with that
[14:02] <jcastro> cjohnston: ok I am working on the mail
[14:02] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Q/Crew
[14:02] <jcastro> want to do this wiki table?
 Of course, I'd love to, I know how much you hate wiki tables, you can count on me jorge.
[14:03] <jcastro> man dude, you are so awesome
[14:03] <cjohnston> cure
[14:03] <cjohnston> cute
[14:18] <cjohnston> jcastro: wiki is updated
[14:18] <jcastro> <3
[14:18] <jcastro> mail is out sir
[14:18] <mhall119> wow, that works?
[14:19] <mhall119> when did I become old enough to be the father of an 8 year old? :(
[14:19]  * mhall119 is an old, old man
[14:20] <cjohnston> heh
[14:20] <cjohnston> mhall119: see, if you fix my breaks bug, I'll push it out
[14:20] <cjohnston> see how that works
[14:20] <mhall119> what does that have to do with my being old?
[14:20] <cjohnston> < mhall119> wow, that works?
[14:21] <mhall119> oh
[14:21] <cjohnston> I could agree that you are old
 mhall119: don't worry about fixing the breaks stuff, I'll take care of all that
[14:21] <mhall119> thanks dude
[14:21] <mhall119> :)
 cjohnston: don't worry, I don't need my paycheck.. I'll give it to you. :-)
[14:22] <cjohnston> That's awesome.. thanks man!
[14:22] <cjohnston> it works both way mhall119
[14:24] <mhall119> cjohnston: you're too late, the wife and kids already have claims to it all
[14:25] <mhall119> 2/w santon
[14:25] <mhall119> blah
[14:25] <cjohnston> heh
[14:25] <czajkowski> mhall119: will there be cake today ?
[14:26] <cjohnston> mhall119: you can fix the break bug anyway
[14:27] <mhall119> czajkowski: that's the plan
[14:27] <czajkowski> mhall119: give him a hug from me
[14:31] <mhall119> czajkowski: will do
[14:39] <cprofitt> mhall119: I see you have the sawm quandry I do... I am still bewlidered as to how I got to be the 'old guy' I see in the mirror.
[14:59] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 team meeting time :-)
[14:59] <dholbach> yeehaw
[14:59] <jono> #startmeeting
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[14:59] <jono> Welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting!
[15:00] <jono> get your popcorn, grab a comfortable chair, and prepare for statustastic status updates
[15:00] <jono> in a break from tradition I am going to go first
[15:00] <jono> as mine is very short
[15:00]  * mhall119 gets his coffee
[15:00]  * jcastro 's is also short
[15:00] <dholbach> where's this Piña Colada I ordered 10 minutes ago?
[15:00] <jono> I was on vacation for two weeks in Italy and while I did check in and reply to email, I don't have a significant amount of status to report
[15:01] <jono> I am primarily kicking off 12.10 planning
[15:01] <jono> and catching up with email
[15:01] <jono> alrighty, next up....
[15:01] <jono> ...a man...
[15:01] <jono> ...a legend...
[15:01] <jono> ...a saddening taste in music...
[15:01] <jono> ...dholbach!
[15:01] <dpm> \o/
[15:01] <dholbach> Mandatory sound track of this update (and a good chance for Jono to practise his French for future speaking engagements): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdaAHMztNVE#!
[15:01] <jono> :-)
[15:01] <jono> LOL
[15:02] <dholbach> ☺ Dev initiatives: Organised User Testing for the Ubuntu Development process. Discussed it with various people. Put a team together (huats, andrewsb and bregma) and announced it. Up until not too much feedback - relaunch during 12.10.
[15:02] <dholbach> ☺ Dev Advisory Team: added more information to d-a-t overview pages (number of uploads, time of involvement). Team discussions and planning about refining our process. Added a list of 'Experienced contributors' to our Trello to make our process a bit more fine-grained. Triaged dozens of great people into all kinds of lists. Added new contributors to the list. Improved team lists to make good new contributors easier to spot. Starte
[15:02] <dholbach> d putting together a report with the feedback of new
[15:02] <dholbach> contributors - this will be food for thought before UDS.
[15:02] <dholbach> (oops - too much d-a-t activity it seems :))
[15:03] <dholbach>  ☺ Dev News: Got out another two updates. Discussed some future plans.
[15:03] <dholbach>  ☺ Sponsoring: set up 1glance-sponsoring page, blogged to get more eyes on the sponsoring queue again. Massaged Alexander Fougner's HTML fixes into the 1glance-sponsoring page - now it looks pretty. Did a patch pilot shift. Planned next four weeks of patch piloting. Mailed Canonical engineering managers about missed pilot shifts.
[15:03] <dholbach> ☺ Dev Docs: merged a number of fixes, continued discussion about i18n, contributed a small fix for it - uploaded, now we have translatable docs, backported some stuff, so we can build packaging docs as well for older versions of Ubuntu. Set up a Trello to help with moving old wiki docs to the new packaging guide.
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ Dev Infrastructure: fixed a critical bug in Harvest, got a new release out. Phew!
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ CC: Review of new Teams wiki page, discussions about CoC 2.0. Need to prod everyone again to get the discussion going again.
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ Misc: helped the ISD team with OpenERP packaging questions. Helped Kate put together a list of contributors to this release. Various UDS Sponsoring bits. Upgraded test machine to 12.04 - went smoothly. Helped debug a compiz/unity problem. Helped balloons with packaging of checkbox-app-testing-qt. Filled out performance reviews.
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ 12.10 preparation: Confirmed UDS travel plans - did ESTA dance. Started putting together 12.10 objectives.
[15:05] <dholbach> Done.
[15:06] <dholbach> Hello... *tap tap tap* ... is this thing on?
[15:06] <mhall119> dholbach: translatable dev docs?
[15:07] <jono> thanks dholbach
[15:07] <jono> next up...
[15:07] <dholbach> mhall119, yes - sphinx recently got i18n support - it took a bit for us to integrate it, but http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ (and the other formats) now translatable
[15:07] <dholbach> ...are...
[15:07] <jono> ...the indescribable man described as jcastro...
[15:08] <jcastro> \o/
[15:08] <jcastro> hey everyone
[15:08] <jcastro> short status this week
[15:08] <jcastro> as I was at a conference all last week
[15:08] <jcastro> - At POSSCON with marcoceppi, hosted by jbicha, did a juju talk and a charm school, it was pretty fun. Felt like ~600ish people attended the show.
[15:08] <jcastro> ## Juju
[15:09] <jcastro> - Charm Contest closed, processing applicants, we'll hopefully get through them all this week and in the store. We ended up with about ~15 entries.
[15:09] <jcastro> - Charm Store is online, juju no longer difficult to use. Blogging about this today.
[15:09] <jcastro> ^^ this last one is huge
[15:09] <jcastro> but you'll see in the blog post. :)
[15:09] <jcastro> ## Other stuff
[15:09] <jcastro> - UDS Crew stuff is out.
[15:09] <jcastro> - OpenWeek Planning begins, waiting on Mark's schedule, then I can announce.
[15:09] <jcastro> - Here's what I am working on, if it's not on this list and it should be ping me: http://strapello.com/user/jorgecastro
[15:09] <jcastro> and that's it, the TLDR is "get the charm store submission queue to zero, go go go."
[15:09] <jcastro> questions?
[15:10] <mhall119> tell us about the wordpress-omg charm
[15:10] <jcastro> it's still OMG specific
[15:10] <jcastro> after we get the contest out of the way
[15:11] <jcastro> we will backport those features to the generic "wordpress" charm.
[15:11] <jcastro> but we've already learned stuff, brandon has a similar "drupal" supercharged one already in the review queue
[15:11] <mhall119> what's been joey's reponse to using it?
[15:11] <jcastro> right now reviewers are getting the contest ones finished up and into the store though
[15:11] <jcastro> it's working pretty great, there was one bug yesterday when the instance ran out of disk
[15:12] <jcastro> because the charm was saving nginx cache to the local disk instead of EBS
[15:12] <mhall119> out of disk?
[15:12] <jcastro> fixed in the charm though
[15:12] <mhall119> oh
[15:12] <jcastro> yeah, instances only come with X amount of space
[15:12] <jcastro> when you put the cache on EBS it just grows according to what you pay
[15:12] <mhall119> ok
[15:12] <mhall119> that's a lotta caching though
[15:12] <jcastro> other than that, we're redeploying OMG to smalls on his account today, then just waiting for DNS
[15:13] <mhall119> it's going to be interesting to see how it copes with the release announcement
[15:13] <jcastro> but yeah, we likely need to set a limit for cache
[15:13] <jcastro> it should be fine
[15:13] <jono> cool
[15:13] <jcastro> it's not even breaking a sweat right now, with 2 more instances it should be quick
[15:13] <jono> thanks jcastro
[15:13] <jono> alrighty, next up...
[15:14] <jono> ...respect him, and you could be like him...dpm!
[15:14] <dpm> lol
[15:15] <dpm> ok, here we go, I've got no specific dates on the notes, so some of this stuff might be from a couple of weeks ago, where we didn't hold the meeting
[15:15] <dpm> Translations
[15:15] <dpm> * Created a thank you page with a list of 12.04 translation contributors on http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/translator-credits.html
[15:15] <dpm> * Filed a bunch of i18n bugs, commented on many others, especially user interface exceptions
[15:16] <dpm> * Chaired translations meeting, started more dynamically adding actions to a board (see next point)
[15:16] <dpm> Started using a Trello board, it's working great for the translations team - https://trello.com/board/translations-team/4f621c87861db54230b9ca39
[15:17] <dpm> * Helped coordinating (read had extensive discussions) the Simplified Chinese desktop translation project with the Chinese community and the PES team at Canonical
[15:17] <dpm> * The latter also meant coordinating with the docs team and release team to extend the string freeze deadline for ubuntu-docs (which are also covered by this project)
[15:17] <dpm> * Spent some 20% time setting up a server with localized documentation , updated daily with LP translations to help translators: http://91.189.93.101 (Canonistack seems to be down again)
[15:18] <dpm> "localized documentation" means translations for the ubuntu-docs package
[15:18] <dpm>  
[15:18] <dpm> App Development
[15:19] <dpm> * Worked with mhall119 to finish and publish the Unity app developer documentation on d.u.c. Had some more follow-up calls about Unity docs
[15:19] <dpm> * Posted top 10 apps March blog post
[15:19] <dpm> * Started working on UADW organization, but I'm quite a bit behind :/
[15:19] <dpm> * Call with dpitkin and zoopster to discuss the featured Software Centre apps for next month
[15:20] <dpm> * Started reviewing davidcalle's tutorial on creating a Unity Lens (haven't finished yet)
[15:20] <dpm>  
[15:20] <dpm> Administrivia
[15:20] <dpm> * Finished UDS booking
[15:20] <dpm> * Finished perf review
[15:20] <dpm> And that was me
[15:21] <jono> thanks dpm
[15:21] <jono> any questions?
[15:21] <mhall119> dpm: I've reviewd david's tutorial and made a couple edits, otherwise it's got a +1 from me
[15:22] <dpm> cool, in that case we can probably publish it already
[15:23] <jono> cool
[15:23] <jono> alrighty
[15:23] <jono> next up...he beckons the angels to serve his QA...
[15:23] <dholbach> dpm, let's chat about UADW later on a bit
[15:23] <jono> ...respect him...
[15:23] <jono> ...be him...
[15:23] <jono> ...want to be him...
[15:23] <jono> ...for he is...
[15:23] <jono> ...balloons!
[15:24] <dpm> (ok, thanks dholbach)
[15:24] <balloons> pop?
[15:24] <jono> lol
[15:24] <balloons> ok..
[15:25] <balloons> Discussed Release QA Proposal with qa community, going to finalize and start on action plans
[15:26] <balloons> Worked on checkbox migration to qt for Beta2 Manual App Testing
[15:26] <balloons> got help from some folks on this.. thank you dholbach, kaldor, roadmr.. others I'm forgetting.. ohh roginac :)
[15:27] <balloons> It's been a somewhat bumpy ride migrating to qt, so let me know if anyone is having trouble running the tests
[15:27] <balloons> I'll be updating the ppa as time goes on this week
[15:27] <balloons> at some point, we'll close the window before rc
[15:28] <balloons> as a qa community, we helped the installer team with the Ubiquity installer sprint
[15:29] <balloons> check out http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-installer-sprint -- 28 bugs closed
[15:29] <balloons> We also did beta2 iso testing -- thanks to all the testers!
[15:29] <balloons> 66 testers and 850ish test runs! very nice coverage
[15:30] <balloons> discussed with the qa team what qa needs are needed for the new ubuntu glasses -- I'm still waiting for mine from fedex
[15:30] <dholbach> :)
[15:30] <mhall119> balloons: they'll blow your mind
[15:31] <balloons> :-)
[15:31] <jono> lol
[15:31] <mhall119> literally, that's a powerful battery
[15:31] <jono> anything else balloons?
[15:31] <jcastro> I want the battery on the left.
[15:31] <mhall119> jcastro: never!
[15:31] <dholbach> balloons, do you still have any issues with the packaging and package build?
[15:31] <balloons> Finally, worked with the u+1 team leads to discuss future plans and how they fit into the community; discussed the idea of having test days, recaps on how the testing has gone this cycle
[15:32] <balloons> I will hopefully be posting a summary of my thoughts on the cycle and the future for 12.10 before UDS :-)
[15:32] <balloons> ..
[15:32] <balloons> dholbach, umm.. I actually made a new issue yes
[15:32] <dholbach> ok, I'll have a look in a bit
[15:32] <balloons> lol.. I had solved everything, but I did break something last night
[15:33] <balloons> k
[15:33] <balloons> let me push the latest
[15:33] <balloons> that's it from me
[15:34] <jono> thanks balloons
[15:34] <jono> ...finally...
[15:34] <mhall119> Ubuntu Glasses was a pretty cool 4/1 joke
[15:34] <jono> ...no application is safe from his quicklists...
[15:34] <jono> ...you don't know it yet, but he is getting you involved in Unity....mhall119!
[15:35]  * mhall119 wonders if jono pre-writes these intros, or if he just wings it
[15:35]  * jono wings it
[15:35] <jono> :-)
[15:35] <mhall119> * Booked travel for UDS-Q
[15:35] <mhall119> * Uploaded coding style guide for unity to unity.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <mhall119>  ** Needs better XSLT output to match the site
[15:36] <mhall119> right now it's just a WP upload, I'd like to get it better itegrated with the rest of the dics
[15:36] <mhall119> * Upload fixes to Singlet and quickly-unity-lens-template
[15:36] <mhall119> the last of the build/install/uninstall commands were removed from Singlet, they're all in the quickly template now
[15:36] <mhall119> making Singlet strictly a run-time library
[15:36] <mhall119> * ARB has been working on new music scopes for Oneiric
[15:37] <mhall119> there were some issue with getting one of them running,  but I think 2 or 3 were approved, all from Mark Tully
[15:37] <mhall119> * ARB has begun accepting submissions (for lenses/scopes anyway)  for Precise
[15:37] <mhall119> Oneric lenses and scopes will be updated by the ARB, mark and david will both start submitting their Precise-only lenses/scopes to the ARB
[15:38] <mhall119> I will also be making the necessary fixes to the dictionary and community lenses for Precise inclusion
[15:38] <mhall119> * Finally figured out my cloud instance problems, sadly there is no cure
[15:39] <mhall119> will be re-deploying a SUMO test instance on Amazon's cloud this week
[15:39] <mhall119> * Blogged about getting SVG icons for improved application integration
[15:39] <mhall119> not nearly as much of a response to the call for graphics as I got for Quicklists and Keywords
[15:40] <mhall119> I think we need to discuss what we can do to foster the artists in the community
[15:40] <mhall119> perhaps at UDS
[15:40] <mhall119> * Helped cjohnston and m_3 work on the Summit juju charm
[15:40] <mhall119> some other big improvements are comming to summit.u.c for UDS-Q, thanks to the persistance of cjohnston
[15:41] <mhall119> * Developed script to extract contributor metrics from unity bzr branches
[15:41] <mhall119> results can be seen at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/#commit_stats
[15:41] <mhall119> * Refactored unity-stats code to be more easily re-used by other projects
[15:42] <mhall119> * Started experimenting with django-based metrics gathering
[15:42] <mhall119>  ** Ported 3 graphs from unity-stats for testing
[15:42] <mhall119> * Updated screenshots on unity.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <mhall119> they were from 11.04
[15:43] <mhall119> * Published new Unity app developer docs with dpm
[15:43] <mhall119> \o/
[15:43] <mhall119> * Reviewed Unity Lens with Singlet+Quickly tutorial by davidcalle
[15:43] <jono> :-)
[15:43] <mhall119> * Help sort out new docs freeze schedule
[15:43] <mhall119> * Hello Unity!
[15:43] <mhall119>  ** Developed showcase application for Unity integration
[15:43] <mhall119>  ** Blogged and screencasted
[15:43] <mhall119>  ** Tested effectiveness of developer.u.c docs, identified areas for improvement
[15:43] <mhall119>  ** Packaging has begun, planning to submit to ARB for 12.04
[15:44] <mhall119> * Work on lots of new Unity development docs
[15:44] <mhall119>  ** Design pages done
[15:44] <mhall119>  ** Development pages mostly done
[15:44] <mhall119>  ** Started rounding up docs for testing and translations
[15:44] <mhall119> * Updated beta2 release notes with links
[15:44]  * mhall119 is done
[15:44] <dholbach> mhall119, does "Singlet strictly a run-time library" mean that code changes in your singlet project automatically reflect in the UI?
[15:45] <mhall119> dholbach: I meant that it's not used to bootstrap new lens projects, it uses quickly for that now
[15:45] <jono> thanks mhall119!
[15:45] <dholbach> ahhh ok
[15:45] <dholbach> thanks
[15:45] <mhall119> dholbach: so it's only used to run lenses
[15:45] <dholbach> ok great - I might have more questions about that tomorrow :)
[15:45] <mhall119> but yet, improvements to Singlet will be reflected in any Singlet lens or scope on update
[15:46] <mhall119> s/yet/yes/
[15:46] <jono> alrighty
[15:46] <dholbach> cool
[15:46] <jono> let's wrap it
[15:46] <jono> thanks everyone!
[15:46] <jono> #endmeeting
[15:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr  3 15:46:22 2012 UTC.
[15:46] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-03-14.59.moin.txt
[15:46] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-03-14.59.html
[15:46] <dholbach> balloons, is r1357 the latest?
[15:46] <mhall119> thanks and welcome back jono
[15:46] <jono> thanks mhall119 :-)
[15:46] <jono> dpm, want to go now so you can finish earlier?
[15:47] <dholbach> dpm, we can still talk about UADW tomorrow
[15:47] <balloons> dholbach,
[15:48] <dpm> jono, sounds goot
[15:48] <dpm> dholbach, cool, let's do that
[15:49] <jono> dpm, inv sent
[15:49] <dholbach> balloons?
[15:54] <thelinuxer> hi, I made a request on rt.ubuntu.com https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=19486 for 13 days now
[15:54] <balloons> dholbach,
[15:55] <thelinuxer> the only change made to it was changing the status from "new" to "open"
[15:55] <balloons> dholbach, lol.. sorry sorry
[15:55] <balloons> dholbach, 1358 is the one you want.. I added a .install file..
[15:55] <balloons> the .desktop file doesn't get installed in the 1357 package.. 1358 was my attempt to fix it
[15:55] <thelinuxer> czajkowski: Can you help me with this ^ ?
[15:56] <balloons> in addition, 1357 runs the local checkbox-qt installation.. 1358 should install and run it's own checkbox-qt install
[15:56] <czajkowski> thelinuxer: usually 2-3 weeks wait tbh
[15:56] <czajkowski> thelinuxer: you can ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[15:57] <thelinuxer> czajkowski: ok, thanks
[15:58] <dholbach> balloons, what do you mean by "run it's own checkbox-qa install"?
[15:59] <balloons> dholbach, I mean.. the 11357 package doesn't run the code found in the qt folder after it's installed
[16:00] <balloons> this is because the app is not being pacakaged completely it appears? Instead, it calls a generic checkbox-qt with the wrapper
[16:01] <dholbach> balloons, it might make sense to   dpkg -c <....deb>   to check the contents and see what's missing
[16:01] <balloons> dholbach, btw.. I have a qa community member who found your open week wiki page and wants to do something
[16:02] <dholbach> balloons, which page is that? what was it about?
[16:02] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[16:03] <dholbach> you mean, somebody who wants to contribute a session to the next event?
[16:03] <dholbach> balloons, do the icons actually get installed somewhere? checkbox_build_icons() seems to never get called in setup.py for instance
[16:04] <balloons> umm.. that's a good question
[16:04] <balloons> I think I may have gutted the icons
[16:04] <balloons> they should be installed.. I depend on them for checkbox
[16:04] <balloons> and use the same one
[16:04] <balloons> but the .desktop file isn't being copied to /usr/share/applications
[16:04] <balloons> it's not being packaged at all
[16:04] <balloons> i could ship my own icon and build it..
[16:05] <balloons> I was thinking of changing it to be more standalone
[16:05] <dholbach> I'd add all that stuff to setup.py
[16:05] <dholbach> add it all to data_files
[16:05] <dholbach> so you don't need to add another file to install files somewhere and let it all be handled by distutils
[16:07] <balloons> ok.. I'll look at the diff when you push and trust it makes sense what your doing
[16:07] <dholbach> errr
[16:08] <dholbach> I can have a very quick look at it, because I was just called to meet for dinner with my cousin and sister
[16:09] <balloons> ahh..
[16:09] <balloons> well yes.. don't ruin dinner!
[16:09] <balloons> :-)
[16:20] <dholbach> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing-qt-fix/ - the icons should now get installed
[16:20] <dholbach> balloons, you might have to talk to the folks in #ubuntu-translators (I think it's called) to find out why the .desktop.in file does not get turned into a .desktop file
[16:20] <dholbach> I'm sorry, but I don't know how to do that :)
[16:20] <balloons> ohh
[16:21] <balloons> I see
[16:21] <balloons> the more the merrier.. I'll hopefully get to learn some more
[16:21] <dholbach> alright, got to run - send me an email if there's anything else you need
[16:22] <balloons> dholbach, thanks.. your diff makes sense
[16:22] <dholbach> de nada
[16:22] <dholbach> bye :)
[16:43] <dpm> ok, I need to run now. See you all tomorrow!
[17:22] <jono> balloons, can we have a quick G+?
[17:22] <balloons> yeppers
[17:23] <jono> balloons, will send an invite in a few mins
[17:24] <jono> balloons, inv sent
[17:26] <balloons> not seeing it ;-(
[17:28] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/04aa71bbea993655f056bd34d64ebf799b23c14c?authuser=0&hl=en-US#
[17:35] <jussi> jono: do the minutes from the team metting before get sent to some ML?
[17:39] <jussi> anyone else can feel free to answer that also
[17:40] <jussi> mhall119: you know, we need to figure out how to make skype greyscale - it looks silly as the only coloured tray icon here.
[17:41] <balloons> jussi, not to my knowledge but you can see the log
[17:42] <jussi> balloons: perhaps you want to considr doing that - all the other teams seem to do it (ie. I just got one from the kernel team, which prompted me to ask)
[17:42] <jussi> IM pretty sure release team does also
[17:43] <jono> jussi, I blog them
[17:43] <balloons> jussi, i know something happens with them, but I'm not remembering off the top of my head.. I'll let another member weigh in and correct my fallacies :-)
[17:43] <jussi> jono: ahh, ok. hadnt seen them to be honest, but :)
[17:44] <jono> jussi, I haven't blogged most of them, but I am starting to
[17:45] <jussi> jono: ahh yeah. kernel team does similar - http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/2012/04/03/kernel-team-meeting-minutes-april-03-2012/
[17:45] <jussi> (they have a real nice script, I must say
[17:50] <jono> cool
[19:31] <jcastro> jono: or mhall119 you are geany ninjas right?
[19:31] <jcastro> I want to know how to open a file from their terminal thing right in geany
[19:31] <jono> jcastro, yup
[19:31] <jcastro> like say I am in there browsing around
[19:31] <jono> jcastro, do what?
[19:31] <jcastro> and I find a file
[19:32] <jcastro> in the built in terminal they have
[19:32] <mhall119> jcastro: I don't use their terminal thingy
[19:32] <jono> right
[19:32] <jcastro> I want to open it in geany directly
[19:32] <jono> you want to load it into Geany from the terminal?
[19:32] <jono> just File -> Open
[19:32] <jcastro> without having to file->open and renavigate to the directory
[19:32] <jcastro> ah
[19:32] <jcastro> I was hoping for something more magical
[19:32] <jono> why?
[19:32] <jono> why not just use File -> Open?
[19:32] <cjohnston> heh
[19:32] <jcastro> Well, if I am/in/a/really/deep/file/structure it takes forever to get back in there
[19:33] <cjohnston> jcastro: just: geany <file>
[19:33] <cjohnston> i just tried it and it worked
[19:33] <jcastro> YES!
[19:33] <jcastro> that's it!
[19:33] <jcastro> cjohnston: LEGEND.
[19:34] <cjohnston> I didn't know that there was a terminal... so now you just saved me tons of window switching time!
[19:34] <jcastro> I know
[19:34] <jcastro> I do "slop" work in the terminal
[19:34] <jcastro> and then just edit in the top
[19:34] <jcastro> it's a brilliant feature
[19:34] <cjohnston> jcastro: see if this works... bzr branch lp:summit
[19:35] <jcastro> Branched 334 revisions.
[19:35] <cjohnston> good.. now find a bug, fix, commit, push
[19:35] <cjohnston> ;-)
[20:03] <jo-erlend> hey. I'm going to hold a presentation about 12.04LTS next week. I'd like to get some nice looking templates for LibreOffice Impress. Any good links? :)
[20:04] <greg-g> jo-erlend: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/node/529
[20:04] <greg-g> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials/presentation
[20:06] <jo-erlend> ah! Thanks. I'm ashamed to admit, I had forgotten all about that site.
[20:08] <JanC> jo-erlend: if you want to impress people, you might prefer to use something like sozi to make your presentation  ☺
[20:10] <jo-erlend> Samordnet Opplegg for Stedfestet Informasjon (SOSI) is a Norwegian data format for the exchange of digital map data. :)
[20:10] <jo-erlend> sozi was something else I see. :)
[20:11] <JanC> http://sozi.baierouge.fr/wiki/en:welcome
[20:15] <JanC> jo-erlend: somebody from ubuntu-be made this with sozi for the 11.10 release: http://techprojectmasters.com/EPFSUG/unity.svg (this was presented at a meeting of the EU parliament free software user group)
[20:15] <JanC> and I think sozi gained new features since then
[20:22] <jo-erlend> that is nice stuff indeed. The only question is whether I can teach myself this stuff quickly enough to make a good presentation in less than a week. :)
[20:23] <marcoceppi> jo-erlend: There's also things like impress.js and deck.js if you're more of an HTML/CSS person
[20:24] <jcastro> I <3 deck.js
[20:24] <cjohnston> jcastro: ty for the terminal pointer.. im loving it!
[20:25] <jcastro> I know right
[21:07] <technoviking> afternoon all
[21:08] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha technoviking
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> o/
[21:19] <JanC> jo-erlend: I think Wouter made that presentation in less than a week, including learning how to use sozi  ;)
[22:11] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/rruma/why_the_juju_charm_store_will_change_the_way_you/
[22:11] <jcastro> upvotes please
[22:12] <czajkowski> jcastro: read the blogs on lp re juju?
[22:12] <jcastro> yup
[22:13] <czajkowski> part 2 came out today.
[22:32] <jcastro> upvotes here greatly appreciated: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3795109
[22:48] <jcastro> bkerensa: SCORE.
[22:48] <jcastro> it's showing up on the HN frontpage for me
[22:50] <greg-g> great, now you're going to get a bunch of brogrammers :/
[22:50] <jcastro> "why didn't you do it this way!"
[22:50] <jcastro> "Pfft, rails, node is where it's at."
[22:50] <jcastro> "Hey do these skinny jeans make me look fat?"
[22:51] <marcoceppi> "It's all about retro, all my deployments are done with fortran scripts"
[22:54] <greg-g> I was thinking more of the Klout kind of brogrammers, not just your typical startup hipster in SF working at Four Barrel Coffee
[22:55] <jcastro> marcoceppi: as much fun as I make of these kind of people
[22:55] <jcastro> You should see my new glasses
[22:55] <jcastro> I fear I look like a ruby kid
[22:59] <greg-g> jcastro: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[22:59] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/cRUAVcpz68r
[22:59] <jcastro> take that hipsters!
[23:01] <greg-g> jcastro: nah, you're still ok, not enough of a frame
[23:01] <jcastro> they had all these hipster glasses
[23:01] <jcastro> you know the ones
[23:01] <greg-g> of course they did
[23:01] <jcastro> and we were at the store
[23:01] <greg-g> they sell, because hipsters spend money
[23:01] <jcastro> and the girl was like "oh try these!"
[23:01] <jcastro> and I was like "no, too valley douchebag."
[23:02] <jcastro> and she was like, gasp.
[23:02] <greg-g> nice
[23:02] <jcastro> and then jill was like "I am sorry, my husband works from home and has no filter."
[23:02] <greg-g> jill++
[23:04] <jcastro> my comments on the women's sunglasses are pretty much unrepeatable
[23:04] <jcastro> you know those huge bug eye sunglasses that are popular
[23:05] <greg-g> a friend in library school used to have a great name for those (I think they're the same ones you're referring to). She called them: b!tch goggles