[00:27] <kanliot> Please, i would like the team cloak for my team in launchpad that the bot mentioned.  i'm on the lubuntu team https://launchpad.net/~kanliot
[00:27] <Unit193> kanliot: See other channel, you'd have to go for an unaffiliated clo9ak.
[00:27] <kanliot> lol
[00:28] <kanliot> ok
[00:28] <Unit193> At this point.
[00:30] <EvilResistance> kanliot:  unless your team/group places a valid GRF-f for a channel here, you'd have to get an unaffiliated cloak.
[00:30] <EvilResistance> (here being freenode)
[00:31] <EvilResistance> its how i have an ubuntu secondary cloak (I'm an Ubuntu member) but also a cloak for my group/company (TrekWeb)
[00:31] <EvilResistance> unless the ubuntu cloaking policies change or smth.
[00:32] <Unit193> EvilResistance: Nope, it's still Ubuntu members getting it, or bots.
[00:32] <EvilResistance> that's what i thought
[00:32]  * EvilResistance would expect a change in Ubuntu cloaking policies to be reflected in the ubuntu-irc mailing list
[01:34] <benonsoftware> Hi
[01:35] <benonsoftware> We are setting up the #ubuntugeeksquad channel, however should we have - between each word?
[02:11] <benonsoftware> Could we please have ubot2 and if possible ubuntulog bots please
[02:12] <Unit193> Firstly, did you follow this while creating? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels Notice the "naming conventions" sections?
[02:12] <benonsoftware> Yes
[02:13] <benonsoftware> (Oops, sorry I forgot to note we moved the channel to #ubuntu-geeksquad)
[02:13] <Unit193> You would have to send an email for the log client.
[02:13] <benonsoftware> Okies, thanks Unit193
[02:14] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots has some good info, but as you know, I have no control over those bots or how channel naming goes.
[17:08] <Fuchs> LjL: buona sera, posso farti una domanda?
[17:09] <LjL> Fuchs: selbstverständlich
[17:10] <Fuchs> LjL: not meant as an offense, but you might know that: the !list problem, why is this (almost) only seen with italians?
[17:10] <Fuchs> LjL: was there some kind of missinformation in a kind of magazine or well known web forum or such?
[17:10] <StaffRingedSeal> I suspect it's the same reason why Finnish IRC mafia is so strong
[17:11] <LjL> Fuchs, i have no idea honestly, but it's happened for a long time, so if it was misinformation somewhere, it went on long... i think it's just that for some reason IRC warez are very popular in italy, but i wouldn't know
[17:11] <StaffRingedSeal> kids show/teach each other how to use an app and explain what the app is for
[17:11] <Fuchs> oh, okay
[17:11] <Fuchs> it's just sad that everytime someone with .it joins and writes ciao, my alarm bells ring :(
[17:11] <LjL> Fuchs: the italian operators didn't quite seem to realize that it was only italians doing that, when i mentioned it to them
[17:12] <LjL> Fuchs: it happens to some degree in their channel too, but it seemed like they assumed it was universal
[17:12] <ZarroBoogs> AlanBell posted this in #ubuntu-ops, and it seems that the problem is spread out on other channels/ircnets as well.: http://www.yetanothertechblog.com/2009/04/14/firefox-hangs-because-of-malware/
[17:12] <Mkaysi> Does !List problem mean that Supybot users wait for it to tell them list of available commands?
[17:12] <Fuchs> LjL: according to my grep and memories it unfortunately is, that's why I am asking
[17:12] <ZarroBoogs> The meat of that is in the comments btw.
[17:13] <ZarroBoogs> Mkaysi: in warez channels !list would give you a list of files available for dcc (download)
[17:13] <ZarroBoogs> I was a dumb kid once.
[17:13]  * Mkaysi has been at IRC little over year and hasn't ever seen such channel
[17:13] <ZarroBoogs> You won't see anything like that on freenode.
[17:13] <Mkaysi> s/commands/plugins/
[17:13] <Mkaysi> Try joining #supybot and saying !list :)
[17:14] <ZarroBoogs> I'm well aware of what it does for a supybot ;)
[17:14] <Mkaysi> :)
[17:14] <StaffRingedSeal> ah fresh blood
[17:15] <Fuchs> LjL: well, thanks anyway, e una bella serata  :)
[17:16] <LjL> ZarroBoogs: i'm not sure i understand what that link is saying honestly... basically that italians get infected by stuff because they download warez?
[17:16] <Mkaysi> Ok, now I have seen such bot
[17:17] <ZarroBoogs> LjL: The link sort of goes all over the place with *why* it happens. The information I got from it was that other people were having the issue with ciao -> !list
[17:18] <LjL> well it happens in several freenode channels, so no particular reason to think it was limited to freenode either
[17:18] <Fuchs> it definitely isn't (limited to freenode)
[17:18] <LjL> maybe it's just like someone mentioned, they search for channels (on any network, using ircsearch or whatever) that have many users, and somehow assume there's warez there
[17:22] <StaffRingedSeal> or don't assume, they just go in the big channels and issue the command just to see if someone replies
[17:22] <Fuchs> maybe I get the chance to ask one some day
[17:22] <AlanBell> I think this article and the two linked tutorials are the source of the problem http://www.mytechnology.eu/2008/05/23/guida-come-scaricare-da-mirc-e-lista-di-canali-e-servers-da-cui-scaricare/
[17:22] <StaffRingedSeal> I assume that if configured to that usecase, the client would automatically reply with a DCC'd list of downloadable files
[17:22] <Fuchs> unfortunately my italian skills are between nonexistant and horrible
[17:23] <bazhang> I can read
[17:23] <ZarroBoogs> Fuchs: I can only say ciao and !list
[17:23] <Fuchs> AlanBell: the article at least starts like that, telling users that IRC is a good source for such material, but it even lists networks (which are not us)
[17:23] <ZarroBoogs> Actually, I remember enough latin to get the gist of basic sentences.
[17:23] <Fuchs> bazhang: so do I, but that doesn't help :)
[17:24] <Fuchs> ZarroBoogs: yes, reading or listening to is not a big issue if I have some context, my french and spanish help there. But speaking / writing: no way
[17:24] <bazhang> Fuchs, getting warez? or stopping them
[17:24] <AlanBell> Fuchs: yeah, but it shows how to find all the channels on a network and freenode will be in the mirc list of networks
[17:24] <Fuchs> bazhang: talking to them :)
[17:24] <bazhang> hehe
[17:24] <AlanBell> and #ubuntu will be one of the biggest channels
[17:25] <StaffRingedSeal> http://tecnoblog.girlpower.it/p2p/come-scaricare-file-canale-irc-tutorial-parte-2
[17:25] <StaffRingedSeal> :-(
[17:25] <ZarroBoogs> The largest channel on the largest irc network.
[17:25] <StaffRingedSeal>  Per sapere che file hanno questi bot, bisogna digitare un comando universale per quasi tutti i canali che è il seguente !list
[17:26] <Mkaysi> [OT] What is "RingedSeal" in Finnish?
[17:26] <bazhang> this whole convo is ot
[17:26] <StaffRingedSeal> Harmaahylje or in my particular case Saimaannorppa
[17:26] <StaffRingedSeal> anyway
[17:26] <Mkaysi> Ok :)
[17:26] <Fuchs> bazhang: sorry, I saw the discussion earlier on and thought I might ask
[17:38]  * AlanBell throws StaffRingedSeal a herring
[18:00] <Tm_T> extremetuxracer?
[19:39] <Mkays|> I used to like it