[00:12] Daekdroom: I have appmenu installed, but disabled the global menu, I think... [00:17] maybe I should use dual menus... [00:36] JanC: if you disable exporting the menu structure, HUD doesn't have anything to work with [00:42] I want "global menu" for maximized applications only, but apparently none of the developers/designers wants that ;) [00:43] mhall119: "exporting" it should be independent of implementation ;) [00:44] JanC: local menus are being worked on, they just weren't ready for 12.04 [00:45] well, let's hope [00:45] JanC: exporting *is* independent of display, which is how both global meny and HUD can display it [00:45] right [00:45] but depending on what/how you disabled it, it may not be exporting anymore [02:08] thumper, ping, fixed those issues in the autopilot test for: https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/hud-to-dash-fix/+merge/100064 [02:08] thanks for reviewing it [02:09] ok [02:09] I'll try to get back to it soonish [02:09] not a problem, just wanted to let you know [02:09] thanks [02:19] thomi, ping, about that ibus crash fix you have. Do you know of any way to reproduce it? [02:20] bschaefer: nope, I was running the AP test suite. However, continually running the AP test suite (inside a 'while 1' bash loopo for e.g.) always crashes unity for me eventually [02:20] ...also, it seems to often crash on that first test [02:20] thomi, odd...I was thinking how to test it [02:20] let me see if I can get it to crash for me [02:20] * thomi tries running just the first test [02:22] bschaefer: I set it going while I went out for lunch. 3 AP iterations later.. bang! [02:23] well at lease the ap found it :). Has it found it since you fixed it? [02:24] ie. it shouldn't have crashed since. Which should mean if the crash is present at anyother time the ap test will eventually find it. [02:24] so this should be covered under the ap tests! [02:26] thomi, approved it, ill run my ap test a few times over night to make sure it doesn't occur again! [02:27] ok [02:27] bschaefer: I recommend doing this inside an infinite loop: [02:28] ummm, where did I put that script.... [02:28] I was just going to write up a bash script to call it over and over again [02:28] well, smethign like this: [02:28] but a python one would be better :) [02:28] ./tools/autopilot run -o `tempfile --suffix=autopilot` [02:28] nah, I used bash [02:29] bschaefer: also, probably worth running unity inside gdb, so when it does crash you can fix it easily [02:29] thomi, I get a weird thing when I use gdb and run autopilot tests...something about not being to find...ugg forgot let me look it up [02:29] and alright sounds good! "saved command" [02:30] thomi, o yeah, I forgot I wanted to talk to you about search bars [02:30] between the hud/dash [02:31] ok [02:31] since they share search bars, soo let me pull up that test [02:32] https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/hud-to-dash-fix/+merge/100064 [02:32] so those ap test, I had to check if the hud was visible before so I know Im checking the huds' search bar [02:33] because self.hud.searchstring and self.dash.searchstring will give you w/e string that is in the active search bar. So self.hud.searchstring will give you a dash search string [02:34] bschaefer: ahhhh yes. [02:34] I know what this is. [02:34] * thomi looks at the code [02:35] bschaefer: wait, so inside unity they use the same *instance*? I'm aware they use the same class.... [02:35] this isn't the problem I was expecting... [02:36] I don't think they use the same "instance" I don't think...there are 2 news...let me double check [02:37] yeah DashView.cpp:186, new search bar and HudView.cpp:380 new search bar [02:38] ok, [02:38] you should get different results [02:38] as long as you get the searchbar from the hud/dash classes [02:38] if you just do this: SearchBar.get_all_instances()[0] [02:39] you'll get the first one in the tree, which might not be what you want [02:40] thomi, hmm, the hud and dash emulators use self.get_children_by_type(SearchBar)[0] [02:41] thomi, ill give you an example of what I mean in an ap test. [02:43] thomi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/912411/ that returns true, when it shouldn't [02:43] * thomi looks [02:43] since they typing should go to the dash, and the hud search string should be empty [02:44] hmmmm [02:45] which is why I forced the visible check [02:45] get_children_by_type uses the Children property of the item you call it on.... [02:46] thomi, what if we exposed the search string it self from the HudView and DashView [02:46] instead of using the whole search bar [02:46] nah, we need to figure out what's going on [02:46] expose meaning introspect [02:47] can you extend that test to print the 'id' property of both search bars for me and paste the results here? [02:47] they should be different [02:47] just .id? [02:47] yup [02:47] so self.dash.searchbar.id and self.hud.searchbar.id [02:47] ok [02:50] ugg one sec something is being weird [02:51] ok the hud search bar is 21 and the dash is 51 [02:51] so they have different ids [02:51] ...ok... [02:52] hmmmmm [02:53] ok, so after I wrote "focus" in the dash and then print there ids and the current search string it gives me [02:54] different ids, but the same search string...so [02:54] I wonder if this is happening in Unity [02:54] Ill see if I type something in to hud, and have the dash have some string and see if they are different [02:55] as the dash saves the string around [02:57] ok, I'll set up that test as well... [02:57] ooo so, I got a different search string when I left "focus" in the dash and then typed "focus1" in the hud [02:58] ....huh? [02:59] so...if you open the dash then type "Focus". Then go to the autopilot test and make it type "focus1" in the hud they get different search strings [03:01] hmmm [03:01] now I cant reproduce that problem I was getting before [03:02] well now it seems to be working... [03:06] bschaefer: yeah it seems to work perfectly for me here. [03:08] thomi, ugg Im an idiot and the dash saved the "focus" and I didn't think anything was there since it was closed... [03:09] thomi, which is what Im thinking I did [03:09] sorry! [03:09] hahaha [03:09] nice. don't worry about it. It's nice to know I'm not the only person who does things like that :) [03:09] haha, Ill remove those .visisble checks in those test now [03:10] and Ill change the search string to make sure they don't effect each other [03:13] cool, fixed those ap test. Thanks [06:23] hi all! is the hud known to leak or use lots of memory? yesterday the hud-service was at 1.2 gib with no program opened. === FloatingGoat2 is now known as Guest1570 [07:53] mhall119: morning === Goat is now known as Guest25731 [07:54] mhr3, davidcalle: morning [07:54] gotwig, hey [07:55] hey, hey [07:55] davidcalle, any updates to video lens? :) [07:55] hey guys, what do you think might be responsible for reintroducing bug 878492 ? [07:55] Launchpad bug 878492 in unity-2d "Keyboard shortcut - F10 shortcut is used to show menu and this is wrong" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878492 [07:56] davidcalle: how can I exit a scope ? sys.exit does not work [07:56] it seems gtk apps are affected, both under unity and -2d, not qt apps, though [07:56] gotwig, ask mhr3 :) [07:56] mhr3: how can I exit a scope ? sys.exit does not work [07:57] mhr3, I've done small bugfixes. But I really can't reproduce the visible results for prior search bug. [07:59] gotwig, there's no way sys.exit wouldn't work [07:59] davidcalle, freezes are near :( [08:03] mhr3: qt apps dont quit [08:03] mhr3: with sys.exit() [08:04] mhr3: it works, wohu [08:04] mhr3: I tried to put the text message into the sys.exit(..) [08:07] davidcalle: so now I have to work on the icons :-) [08:08] mhr3, network hiccup, have you answered something? [08:09] gotwig, good luck [08:09] davidcalle, just said that freezes are near [08:10] mhr3, ok, then : how do you produce this bug ? [08:11] put a few second sleep after spawning locate? [08:12] that's basically what must be happening, no? locate taking time to do its stuff [08:13] davidcalle: works [08:13] mhr3, that's actually a good test, trying now [08:13] gotwig, well done! [08:18] davidcalle: version 0.2 is going to be releases ASAP ;) [08:32] didrocks, maybe you'll know what to do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/878492/comments/43 [08:32] Ubuntu bug 878492 in unity-2d "Keyboard shortcut - F10 shortcut is used to show menu and this is wrong" [High,Confirmed] [08:33] Saviq: it seemed to be a Gtk issue, I talked about it and 3D is impacted [08:33] Saviq: I think we have bigger issue to deal with for finale TBH [08:34] didrocks, ok, glad you're aware of that [08:48] back :-) [08:48] davidcalle: does not work fully :/ but the daemon does not get launched when gourmet recipe manager is not installed, thats good. [09:00] morning, got a problem with a search loop. I want for every image of a row in a column an extra image. When I dont search for anything, I see all, when I search for something, the 2.th recipe gets the image of the first recipe, the 3.th that of the 2.th, etc. : http://bpaste.net/show/26403/ I think I got to save the state somehow [09:09] didrocks: ping [09:09] hey tsdgeos [09:09] didrocks: so i commited the stuff for the hud read configuration key from gsettings stuff [09:09] you mean gconf, right? [09:09] didrocks: you said you'd help me with the "override" stuff, whatever that was [09:10] right ;) [09:10] didrocks: yes, gconf [09:10] tsdgeos: I'll propre a branch with it and the packaging [09:10] should be short, one sec [09:10] didrocks: great :-) [09:10] tsdgeos: oh, in fact [09:10] tsdgeos: we can avoid that [09:10] if the gconf key is unset [09:10] do you revert to "alt"? [09:11] i think i disable the shortcut [09:11] morning, got a problem with a search loop. I want for every image of a row in a column an extra image. When I dont search for anything, I see all, when I search for something, the 2.th recipe gets the image of the first recipe, the 3.th that of the 2.th, etc. (NEWCODE) : http://bpaste.net/show/26404/ I think I got to save the state somehow [09:11] tsdgeos: hum… ok, in that case, let's do an override [09:12] didrocks: i can make it default to alt if you think that's more resilient [09:12] tsdgeos: no, maybe some user want to deactivate completly the hUD [09:12] HUD [09:12] in that case, you won't know if there is a value or not [09:12] riight [09:13] oh sweet, we already have defaults for metacity [09:13] so should be one line, one sec [09:16] tsdgeos: quite easy: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-2d/default-gconf-value/+merge/100572 [09:23] didrocks: know nothing about that file but the file makes a relative sense in my "know nothing" mind so i'll trust you ;-) [09:24] tsdgeos: thanks ;) [09:36] can anyone help me to understand this? indicator-appmenu in precise contains a change that's just a merge proposal for lp:indicator-appmenu - how's that possible? [09:37] (there are no patches in the debian directory) [09:38] htorque, I usually bzr merge lp:.... to backport fixes [09:38] htorque, i.e the vcs deal with them, no patch system involved [09:39] seb128: how would i see that? [09:40] https://code.launchpad.net/~desrt/indicator-appmenu/hud-performance/+merge/100480 [09:40] there's a change in there i see when doing apt-get source, but not when i get trunk [09:41] however, i believe the installed packages doesn't contain that fix (it's about a small missing g_free leak that's part of that fix) [09:41] *package [09:43] htorque, what are you trying to do? [09:43] seb128: meh, sorry... i looked at the wrong changelog :( [09:43] htorque, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-appmenu/ubuntu/revision/223 [09:43] that's the leak fix I backported [09:43] it adds a g_free (item->priv->app_icon); [09:44] htorque, you can see the diff from the page [09:45] seb128: i looked at ChangeLog, not debian/changelog - not enough coffee i guess. ;-) [09:45] htorque, ;-) [09:50] didrocks: ping [09:50] tsdgeos: hey hey [09:51] didrocks: the "reveal sensitivity" in the auto-hide launcher behaviour tab of the control panel is your responsability? [09:51] tsdgeos: right [09:52] didrocks: nothing, for a moment i thought it did not change unity2d setting, but it does [09:52] :-) [09:52] tsdgeos: it does. However, as 2d and 3d doesn't use the same key, despite my demand, I listen only on gconf (as ccsm is a graphical tool to change it) [09:53] if I listen to both gsettings and gconf changes, we can end up in bad loops [09:53] and people using dconf-editor to change the key should be aware they are not using an official tool :) [09:59] sure [09:59] still works [09:59] right ;) [09:59] just gets out of sync with the control panel stuff [10:00] indeed [10:00] not a biggy IMHO, most people will just use the ui or ccsm [10:15] still got problem with that :/ [10:24] is there a way to show only the half part of unicode charackters? [10:56] hey [10:56] how may I prefill my lens/scope ? e.g when someone switches on my lens/scope he jost gets "no scores for your search...." [10:56] *just* [10:57] *now [11:23] didrocks: is the unity merger stopped? or just slow? [11:27] tsdgeos: no, there is an issue in the QA labs. Basically IS cut the ssh access to the whole QA lab because something is making a hundreds of requests every minute (and no, it's not the bot :p) [11:27] tsdgeos: so, they are looking at the source of the issue now [11:27] nice :-) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:49] jo [12:49] (join #pythno === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:40] tsdgeos: just to warn you, the key for Alt now can be or Alt_L. Not sure if that would be a difference for you [13:41] didrocks: of course, that breaks everything :D [13:41] didrocks: can even be without <> ? [13:41] tsdgeos: glad that I warned you then? ;) [13:41] tsdgeos: well, this one is under discussion [13:41] that'd even break me more [13:41] tsdgeos: it's what g-c-c will do right now [13:41] tsdgeos: I'm trying to keep it so that there will still be <…> [13:41] since i'm assuming <>*\c* [13:42] so i'd have to rewrite the whole parser [13:42] tsdgeos: so assume for now at least [13:42] will do [13:51] JohnLea: hey [13:51] jono: hey [13:51] hey gotwig [13:54] would be gladful for every tip, to fix the bug that all icons only get shown when I search for nothing in my scope... when I type something, the icon cache, etc. gets accessed in a wrong way, and the icon from the first applied to the 2.th the 3.th to the 4.th recipe item , etc. : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking/view/head:/unity-scope-gourmet#L105 [13:58] dbarth, could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/965492 [13:58] Ubuntu bug 965492 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash home results take too long to appear" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:58] I worry that this may be affecting our user experience right when people start using the dash [14:04] Do you know how I can affect the first screen of my lens? when you press first time on it in the dash, and you have nothing entered. [14:05] jono: hi, onit [14:06] jono: do you get that immediately after logging in? [14:06] dbarth, yep [14:06] jono: that's the delayed loading i suppose, to accelerate startup time [14:06] dbarth, right [14:06] but you have no way of knowing that something is about to happen [14:07] or broken [14:07] what worries me is that if a user logs in and clicks the dash right away it looks broken [14:07] i agree [14:07] dbarth, indeed [14:07] jono: the spinning circle could help during that wait time, and without requiring a message and translation and so on [14:08] i'll run that by johnlea [14:08] dbarth, you mean the spinning circle next to the search? [14:08] jono: btw, did you resolve your album art issue? [14:08] dbarth, no have the same issue [14:08] just tested now [14:08] jono: yes, something we already have in place; reusing [14:08] hmm [14:12] jono: ok,done for the first issue [14:12] jono: for the album art, let me see if lamalex has an idea [14:12] dbarth, is there any way we can just get rid of the delay in icons appearing? [14:12] lamalex: there? [14:12] yes but in the QA meeting [14:12] even if a spinner is shown, it takes four or five secs for the results to appear [14:12] give me 15 mins? [14:12] which seems slugging [14:12] sluggish [14:12] lamalex: ah ok, np; just wondering how to help jono help us [14:13] id need to read the backlog- i got no idea what you're talking about [14:13] but im trying to pay attention in the meeting :P [14:14] didrocks: ping? we are deferring the loading of lenses at startup, right? [14:15] JohnLea: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/965492 if that sounds like an acceptable solution to you [14:15] Ubuntu bug 965492 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash home results take too long to appear" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:15] dbarth: hum? this is already done [14:15] mhr3: isn't it? ^ [14:17] didrocks, what exactly? [14:20] mhr3: we have lenses loading delayed at startup right? [14:20] or told differently, that didn't regress in last release? (I didn't check the past 2 weeks ;)) [14:20] dbarth's questions make me wonder if we still have it or if it's unrelated [14:21] didrocks, yes, the loading is delayed [14:21] ok ;) [14:21] dbarth seems to be wanting it to be faster though [14:23] we don't ;) [14:23] we as "distro" :p [14:23] i agree with the spinner though, it's odd that you don't see it if you're not searching [14:24] actually wanted to ask JohnLea about it as well [14:25] I want it to be faster, too ^^ [14:25] was it realy a good decision to use python for lenses & scopes? [14:26] mhr3: ^ [14:27] default lenses are native [14:27] expect video lens [14:27] except* [14:37] mhr3: what you mean with native [14:37] gotwig, not python [14:37] mhr3: so what [14:38] g2g [14:38] so they can be fast if you want them fast [14:39] and they're development can be convenient if you want it convenient [14:39] ok dbarth jono what do you need? [14:42] mhr3; what is the question? [14:43] JohnLea, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/965492/comments/4 [14:43] Ubuntu bug 965492 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash home results take too long to appear" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:45] JohnLea, plus i'd show the spinner anytime a lens is taking time to display/update results (currently it's shown only if you're doing a search) [14:46] mhr3; so the questions is "if the Dash results are slow loading (because the user has just logged in), is it acceptable to show the usual spinner in the search box?? If that's the question, the answer is yes, because it is for times like this that there is a spinner in the search box ;-) However of course the best solution would be for search to be faster ;-) [14:46] mhr3; go ahead, that is why there is a spinner ;-) [14:53] didrocks: ping [14:54] mhall119: hey [14:56] lamalex, I reported a bug about no album art appearing [14:56] lamalex, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/965483 [14:56] Ubuntu bug 965483 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Album covers not displayed" [Medium,Incomplete] [14:57] Want to test the new version of my cooking lens? https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/+archive/lens-cooking please help me in fixing bugs :-) e.g the gourmet scope has problem with showing the right icon of recipes. [14:58] oh sry, it first starts to build xD [14:58] didrocks: hi, I was talking to balloons yesterday about getting some documentation together about how community people can contribute to testing Unity, and he said you might be able to help with more unity-specific testing tools and docs than he had [14:59] mhall119: I would like to develop lenses & scopes in c, or an other native language :! [14:59] gotwig: go for it [14:59] mhall119: lol :D ? [14:59] since it all happens over DBus, you can choose just about anything [15:00] mhall119: oh yeah :D [15:00] mhall119: indeed, with unity-checkbox [15:00] mhall119: I think popey is about to do a screencast for this week-end call for testing [15:01] unity-checkbox just sucks.... [15:01] I never got feedback for my bugs or reports, and there is / was somehow no 12.04 support [15:01] didrocks: oh that would be excellent [15:01] gotwig: thanks for considering the work done by other people here [15:01] didrocks: what about stuff like autopilot, does it make sense to ask community people to run those? [15:02] gotwig: btw, I gave some feedback from all testing period on my blog, and so on planet ubuntu [15:02] gotwig: with hundreds of testers, it's not possible to answer to everyone by email one by one… sorry [15:02] mhall119: no, the test is screwing the session and it's quite shacky [15:02] mhall119: like a lot of timeouts (40 tests failing on 200 on an average) [15:03] ouch [15:03] needs a english box only [15:03] ok [15:03] didrocks: I forgive you :-) [15:03] didrocks: lol [15:03] didrocks: I wasnt able to submit my submission.xml [15:04] gotwig: that's different, a checkbox issues… seems that hundreds of people can though, did you sign on launchpad? [15:04] didrocks: no question ;) [15:05] well, if you don't sign in on launchpad, there is no way your results can be pushed :) [15:05] didrocks: that meant yes [15:06] didrocks: :-) but ok.. I just wanted to help [15:06] ah, weird though, you can still ask on #qa, I have no real clue about checkbox signing on process [15:06] Want to test the new version of my cooking lens? https://code.launchpad.net/~gotwig/+archive/lens-cooking please help me in fixing bugs :-) e.g the gourmet scope has problem with showing the right icon of recipes. now realy in PPA :-) [15:07] a lens with cooking recipes? lol :) [15:08] zgreg: you can search for recipes, yip [15:08] zgreg: online & offline [15:09] I'd rather like to see unity perform better ony my netbook without any hacks [15:09] disabling vsync in compiz configuration definitely improves performance a lot for me, yet I don't see any tearing even without it [15:10] erm, precise, alt+f2 start typing totem - the totem icon actually there until you enter "m", why? [15:12] rye: I don't understand that last sentence [15:12] zgreg, the totem app icon disappears from the results once you finish typing totem [15:12] Which is not necessarily a bug. You can type 'totem' then press Enter [15:13] But doesn't seem consistent. [15:13] zgreg: ^ what Daekdroom said, but you can't run totem this way for some reason [15:13] hmm I've never seen anything like that, but I think it is a bug [15:13] can someone help me in testing? [15:13] this is very irritating [15:13] zgreg: I am a hobby developer, btw.. [15:13] Interestingly enough, it doesn't happen with gedit. [15:13] or confusing, maybe [15:13] or pidgin [15:13] or anything else I'm trying [15:14] Poor Totem. [15:14] Daekdroom: firefox is ok... also i see that totem has some totem-abc, totem-blah-blah-blah apps too, so maybe the matching system thinks it needs to start matching other ones [15:15] It's definitely worth a bug report. [15:15] okay [15:15] for the first time i tried running totem using Alt+f2 throughout all the testing of Precise... :) [15:16] rye: i can confirm that [15:17] Daekdroom: aha, see for e.g. unity - it also has some commands starting with it, and once you press "y", the original one disappears (not that you will want to start it) [15:17] rye: note that if you press Super then type "totem" it does appear [15:17] or rather, doesn't disappear [15:17] popey: yep, that's why i said "for the first time" - launching from dash/apps has always been working for me [15:49] didrocks: has been the key for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/955193 been decided? [15:49] Ubuntu bug 955193 in Ayatana Design "Menu bar - add option for the global menu to make it always visible" [High,Triaged] [15:50] tsdgeos: sorry, 5 people speaking at the same time, I saw your request… [15:50] tsdgeos: the option will maybe not be there [15:50] no probl :D [15:50] ok [15:57] Am I meant to be able to drag the Dash launcher? [15:57] (even thought I still cannot change its position) [16:35] MacSlow, ping [16:38] davidcalle, poing [16:38] MacSlow, I've just seen the screenshot of your fix for cardview, nice :) [16:39] davidcalle, well... it's not merge-proposed yet and just this very moment there's some feedback from design... so don't hold you breath :) [16:39] MacSlow, fyi, gord is working on an icon fix, where non square icons don't fill the tiles as much as they should : here is the fix (on vertical renderer ) http://gordallott.com/share/Screenshot%20from%202012-04-02%2016:29:31.png [16:40] davidcalle, I know... he told me about it yesterday regadring the square vs landscape issue... regarding the video-lens [16:40] MacSlow, just wanted you to know, to avoid a design clash. I don't know what he is going to do about the horieontal renderer [16:40] MacSlow, ok then, if you know about it :) [17:11] all: hi, is there somebody who understands window focus model in Unity? [17:12] I would like to provide an option to show a window on foreground when user click in my appindicator [17:12] however, it works only when the same application has focus [17:13] on the other side, showing a window from indicator-sound or indicator-messages alway put a window into foreground [17:13] does anybody know how does work? [17:14] jo [17:17] gotwig: hi [17:17] izidor: hey, are you a dev? [17:17] has anyone tested my lens :X [17:17] gotwig: a maintainer of GTG trying to find an answer to my questions [17:17] * gotwig asks YOU! [17:17] gotwig: what lens? [17:17] izidor: cooking lens [17:18] izidor: have you heard of it? [17:19] gotwig: honestly, no [17:19] izidor: it was in omgubuntu news [17:19] I haven't heard about any users' lenses [17:19] gotwig: when? [17:22] izidor: ?? [17:22] wow, I'm having really hard time using unity with multiple workspaces. Can some dev spare me a moment so we could triage it a bit? [17:22] izidor: want a link? [17:23] izidor: http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDoQIDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AsI2hXAbs0TgJ%3Awww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2012%2F02%2Fhungry-new-cooking-lens-brings-recipefy-to-ubuntu%2F%2B%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dde&ei=4jF7T_HqFIPusgaa1aXuAQ&usg=AFQjCNG087CU8eMQ6YiU5codeeup8MEUBQ&sig2=Pb3No4shCHNGzqY7CrSwXw [17:24] gotwig: thanks [17:25] izidor: if you are interessted in using it, I would be pleased if you could give me some feedback :-) [17:26] gotwig: is it available also for 11.10? [17:26]