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| Riddell | packages uploaded, will need 100 retries | 02:24 |
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| * ScottK starts mashing the retry button. | 04:48 | |
| ScottK | 100 was conservative. | 04:48 |
| Daskreech | 100 retries? | 04:52 |
| ScottK | More. It's one per arch, per pacakge. | 05:22 |
| ScottK | I didn't count how many packages 4.8 has, but 4.7 was almost 80 and 4.8 is more. | 05:24 |
| micahg | ScottK: ubuntu-build FTW | 05:24 |
| micahg | last time I threw all the packages in a file and piped them to ubuntu-build | 05:25 |
| ScottK | Can that do it for specific archs? | 05:26 |
| micahg | yep | 05:26 |
| micahg | -a IIRC | 05:27 |
| ScottK | Where do I find it? | 05:27 |
| micahg | ubuntu-dev-tools :) | 05:27 |
| ScottK | I see it. | 05:28 |
| micahg | you might get a timeout or 2 with that many packages though | 05:28 |
| micahg | but just run it again | 05:28 |
| ScottK | This is definitely better. Thanks. | 05:43 |
| fabo | Riddell: no, I didn't see it. | 05:46 |
| Riddell | fabo: it's from kde-packager | 07:07 |
| ximion | Riddell: Filed sync request (and FFe) for debconf-kde as bug #973202 | 09:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 973202 in debconf-kde (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync debconf-kde 0.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973202 | 09:11 |
| debfx | ximion: is it only a bugfix release? | 09:20 |
| ximion | debfx: it is to 98% identical to the current Git snapshot, and the changes are only bugfixes | 09:22 |
| ximion | also API and ABI remain compatible (of course) | 09:22 |
| debfx | ximion: ok, then you don't need a FFe | 09:23 |
| ximion | debfx: okay | 09:23 |
| ximion | if the Kubuntu wouldn't have requested this sync request, I wouldn't have written it :P | 09:24 |
| ximion | (the 0.2. release contains only some code-improvements, which are very nice to have, but not critical) | 09:24 |
| ximion | (if you compare it to the current Git snapshot we shipped) | 09:24 |
| debfx | ximion: minor nitpick: debian/rules complains about "date: invalid date `+%s'" | 09:28 |
| ximion | debfx: what are you trying to do? | 09:30 |
| ximion | (haven't seen this message...) | 09:30 |
| debfx | just building the package | 09:30 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: what do you think about bug #973224 | 09:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 973224 in kdesdk (Ubuntu) "The kdesdk-dolphin-plugins description is missing information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973224 | 09:33 |
| debfx | ximion: if you only provide a symbols file for one arch you should use the -V option of dh_makeshlibs | 09:37 |
| debfx | bulldog98: makes sense, maybe we should just say "various version control systems" instead of listing all of them | 09:39 |
| ximion | debfx: I need to go over this symbols-file stuff again anyway, it constantly breaks | 09:40 |
| ximion | (one arch on Debian is adding symbols, others are removing symbols which are in the file etc...) | 09:40 |
| ximion | th date thing is weird... | 09:41 |
| debfx | yeah maintaining symbols files for c++ libs usually is no fun | 09:41 |
| jalcine | especially when people don't like using opaque pointers :/ | 09:42 |
| ximion | I hate it - it never works as expected :P | 09:42 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Jonathan Kolberg * 164 * debian/ (changelog control) Fixed the description of kdesdk-dolphin-plugins (LP: #973224) | 09:56 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: should I upload ^ to kubuntu-ninjas? | 10:05 |
| debfx | bulldog98: nah, no need to upload that to ninjas | 10:09 |
| bulldog98 | so I need someone to sponsor that | 10:09 |
| afiestas | I'm a little bti lost with launchpad, hope you can help me | 11:14 |
| afiestas | I want to have an akonadi-google package that imports the code from a different location | 11:14 |
| afiestas | and put the result package in a ppa | 11:14 |
| afiestas | more or less I figure out how to create a recipe and I already ahve the source package working | 11:15 |
| afiestas | what i don't see how to do is the launchpad stuff, meaning creating the package, make my team owner of it etc | 11:15 |
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| Riddell | oh baby | 12:10 |
| Riddell | 4.43M/s shiny new fibre optic connection | 12:10 |
| Riddell | downloads CDs in 3 minutes | 12:10 |
| Riddell | afiestas: so you want to import the code from git and make daily packages of akonadi-google? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | hi rvs75 | 12:16 |
| rvs75 | hi | 12:16 |
| * Riddell nudges rvs75 to a /msg | 12:18 | |
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| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:05 |
| afiestas | Riddell: yes | 13:08 |
| Riddell | afiestas: is there a project on launchpad for akonadi-google? | 13:13 |
| afiestas | Riddell: yes, not mine though | 13:13 |
| Riddell | that's fine | 13:13 |
| Riddell | where is it? | 13:13 |
| Riddell | nothing at https://launchpad.net/akonadi-google | 13:13 |
| afiestas | https://launchpad.net/akonadigoogle | 13:13 |
| Riddell | somebody has nicely already set up an import | 13:14 |
| Riddell | https://code.launchpad.net/~benoitg/akonadigoogle/master | 13:14 |
| Riddell | is this what you want? git://anongit.kde.org/akonadi-google | 13:14 |
| Riddell | or do you have your own branch? | 13:15 |
| afiestas | Riddell: I will have to setup it, but yes I want my own repo or branch | 13:18 |
| Riddell | afiestas: well we can't package something that doesn't yet exist | 13:19 |
| Riddell | so either we'll package it with patches or you need to set up your branch | 13:19 |
| afiestas | Riddell: git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/afiestas/akonadi-google.git | 13:23 |
| afiestas | not online yet | 13:24 |
| Riddell | afiestas: when it's mirrored by anongit it can be fetched with git clone git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/afiestas/akonadi-google.git ? | 13:24 |
| afiestas | yes | 13:25 |
| Riddell | afiestas: groovy, when it's on anongit just fill this in https://code.launchpad.net/akonadigoogle/+new-import | 13:26 |
| Riddell | set owner to be cyberspace and Branch Name: to something like akonadi-google-afiestas | 13:26 |
| afiestas | I see | 13:27 |
| Riddell | once the import is done we can work out the packaging, starting from this one would seem a sensible place https://code.launchpad.net/~benoitg/akonadigoogle/akonadigoogle.upstream_packaging | 13:27 |
| Riddell | or maybe it can be used as is | 13:27 |
| Riddell | afiestas: do you know this Benoit Grégoire guy? | 13:27 |
| afiestas | damn this launchpad thing, makes me feel stupid for moments :/ | 13:27 |
| Riddell | no no, it's packaging which makes upstreams feel ignorant :) | 13:28 |
| afiestas | Riddell: in theory we should be able to use the recipe as well, right? | 13:28 |
| afiestas | just changing the import repo to the new one | 13:28 |
| Riddell | afiestas: right copy and adapt the recipe | 13:28 |
| afiestas | let me disagree, it is not packaging it is launchpad as well :/ | 13:28 |
| afiestas | I mean, I want to create somethign in cyberspace and for doing that I have to go to another project, and "import a branch" | 13:28 |
| afiestas | that's not packaging argot but launchpad's :/ | 13:29 |
| Riddell | yes, they do lack a designer now so some features miss the well thought out user expectations you'd hope for | 13:29 |
| Riddell | 4.8.2 is out! | 13:56 |
| Riddell | but I think we'll wait a bit before putting it on kubuntu.org, still some bits compiling | 13:56 |
| afiestas | Riddell: do you know if the bug I reported has bveen fixed? | 13:57 |
| afiestas | the one that needed the creation of .local/cache/ iirc | 13:57 |
| starbuck | Ridell: great news 4.8.2 :) | 14:02 |
| Riddell | afiestas: for telepathy? I not sure I'm afraid | 14:02 |
| Riddell | thanks starbuck but we're not quite there yet :) | 14:02 |
| starbuck | fixes some foldervie bugs hopefully :) | 14:03 |
| Riddell | mm yes those should be in, good to have plasma desktop maintained again | 14:03 |
| afiestas | Riddell: the ones for kdepim | 14:03 |
| dantti | Riddell: hi, I recently fixed some important stuff on Apper, what at this time would be best patch the package or a new release? | 14:05 |
| Riddell | dantti: either is fine, we're not so burocratic to insist on patches only when a new release would have the same changes | 14:09 |
| * Riddell out for an hour or two | 14:10 | |
| dantti | ok, thanks | 14:10 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kde-telepathy-send-file:kde4__ktp-send-file.desktop could not be read correctly is showing up in the terminal of fresh branches of USC is there someone I should bug about it (note it doesn't stop anything working from what I can tell) | 14:15 |
| afiestas | When tryingto commit: Transport operation not possible: readonly transport | 14:22 |
| afiestas | already imported my ssh key and all taht | 14:22 |
| agateau | Riddell: when you're back I have a fancy MR for you https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/kubuntu-packaging/plasma-widget-menubar-0.1.17/+merge/100768 :) | 14:22 |
| agateau | afiestas: sounds like a wrong bzr url | 14:23 |
| afiestas | bzr branch lp:~cyberspace/akonadigoogle/akonadi-google-afiestas ? | 14:23 |
| agateau | I take it ~cyberspace is a team you are part of? | 14:24 |
| afiestas | yes | 14:24 |
| agateau | afiestas: weird then, should work :/ | 14:25 |
| afiestas | cloned again, worked now | 14:28 |
| debfx | agateau: doesn't dh_auto_test work (without an override)? | 14:28 |
| agateau | debfx: for some reason it does not run "make buildtests", just "make runtest" :/ | 14:28 |
| agateau | afiestas: ah, that's why your branch disappeared for a while from https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace :) | 14:29 |
| afiestas | ? | 14:29 |
| agateau | afiestas: I went to this page, noticed your branch, clicked it, got a 404, went back to the branch list and the branch was not there anymore | 14:30 |
| afiestas | and I did that? | 14:30 |
| afiestas | lol I don't see it anymore netiher :s | 14:31 |
| starbuck | hello, the lp:changed: | 14:31 |
| starbuck | https://code.launchpad.net/akonadi-google | 14:31 |
| starbuck | its correct and macthing now with the "-" | 14:31 |
| afiestas | starbuck: https://code.launchpad.net/akonadigoogle it still exists though | 14:32 |
| afiestas | oh I guess you deleted my branch starbuck ? | 14:32 |
| starbuck | sure, its not maintained by cyberpsace | 14:32 |
| starbuck | yeah, i switched your branch | 14:32 |
| starbuck | everything else is as is | 14:33 |
| afiestas | starbuck: I'm not sure if having another project is the correct thing to do, at least not pointing to my scratch repo | 14:33 |
| afiestas | akonadi-google should point to the official repo | 14:33 |
| starbuck | then we can call it fiestas | 14:33 |
| afiestas | (not sure what are the rules) | 14:33 |
| starbuck | yes | 14:33 |
| starbuck | then akonadigoogle can of course switch too | 14:34 |
| starbuck | i think akonadi-google is better for official than akonadigoogle, but then im not to decide where official one will point to? | 14:35 |
| afiestas | starbuck: no idea, but we don't want to manage official stuff but instead have our small place | 14:37 |
| afiestas | anyway we need a special branch only for the next weeks until we merge our patches with the official one | 14:38 |
| starbuck | sure, so for now we can use akonadi-google for extending your branch with afiestas to show | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: arm boxen | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | something seems broken | 14:38 |
| starbuck | then its best if akonadi-google uses this for official one, unfortunately i can't make an official branch here since it can only be imported at one place at a time | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: could you look at http://paste.kde.org/451814/ ? | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | I'm not sure how I should proceed forward | 14:41 |
| * ScottK neither. | 14:44 | |
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| afiestas | how can I add a ppa in a recipe? the required dependency will only be found there | 15:07 |
| afiestas | is it with merge packaging ? | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | afiestas, http://askubuntu.com/questions/88932/how-to-use-a-recipe-to-deal-with-ppa-package-dependency-change-across-distributi | 15:37 |
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| ronnoc | Hi all. Wanted to point out that Telepathy .3 for 11.10 is working fine; however Telepathy .3 is not working for 12.04. I'm assuming it's a packaging issue based on the sources that were available at the time that have, I thjnk, since been corrected. | 17:19 |
| ronnoc | *think | 17:20 |
| Daskreech | what version of telepathy exists in 12.04 ? | 17:20 |
| ronnoc | .3 also. .3.1 is out (I think) but hasn't hit yet. I just checked the kde-telepathy channel and Arch has the same issue. No accounts can connect. | 17:23 |
| ronnoc | Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/451898/ may help | 17:25 |
| Daskreech | ronnoc: Thats' KDE-telepathy. Which Telepathy is packaged? | 17:29 |
| Daskreech | Far as I know emp | 17:30 |
| Daskreech | athy and KDE-telepathy both moved to Telepathy 0.9 which is completely incompatible with KDE-telepathy 0.8 which is what kde-telepathy 0.3 uses | 17:31 |
| ronnoc | libtelepathy-qt4-2 for 12.04 is .9.1 | for 11.10 it's .9.0 | 17:34 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: hum? telepathy-kde is working great for me | 17:34 |
| Riddell | in 12.04 | 17:34 |
| Riddell | how did you install it? | 17:34 |
| Daskreech | Riddell: are you installing kde-telepathy 0.3 ? | 17:35 |
| Riddell | kde-telepathy: Installed: 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 | 17:35 |
| Daskreech | oh Telepathy 0.9 ? | 17:36 |
| Riddell | davmor2: "branches of USC" is software centre? when does that show up? | 17:37 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: Yes, I have .3 installed on both, however it's only working in 11.10. My 12.04 is stock repos, all updated. For 11.10, I'm using the telepathy-kde ppa | 17:38 |
| Riddell | telepathy-mission-control-5 1:5.11.0-1ubuntu2 | 17:38 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: hum that probably needs a telepathy-kde person to debug it | 17:38 |
| Riddell | but they're busy on 0.4 | 17:38 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: does empathy work? | 17:39 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: in the terminal when you run ./software-center the first time it compiles a local list of applications to pool from, it is here that the error appears, as I say it's not a biggy by any means but it shows up everytime I have a fresh branch for USC | 17:39 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58052-Telepathy-is-not-connecting&highlight=telepathy | 17:39 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: mm, so not just you, tsk | 17:40 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: As long as .3.1 will hit before release, and it will, for 12.04 might as well wait for the packages and test and worry about it then, if needed? | 17:41 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: yeah I think that's the hing | 17:41 |
| Riddell | thing to do for now | 17:41 |
| Riddell | I hope to package that tomorrow | 17:42 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: sounds like a plan :) | 17:42 |
| Daskreech | are there any package management systems that allow personal user install of software ? | 17:56 |
| Riddell | klik | 17:57 |
| Daskreech | ha nice. What happened to that? | 18:01 |
| Daskreech | http://portablelinuxapps.org is the answer | 18:03 |
| BluesKaj | what are XDG_DATA_DIRS ? it's only one of many suggestions to fix a broken akonadi agent | 18:22 |
| mgraesslin | rbelem: any status update for the kwin-active patch? | 18:24 |
| BluesKaj | BBL..errands | 18:26 |
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| rbelem | mgraesslin, i got some build errors | 18:38 |
| rbelem | mgraesslin, i fixed some | 18:38 |
| rbelem | mgraesslin, but there is one that i did not have time to fix | 18:38 |
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| BarkingFish | Evening guys :) | 19:16 |
| BarkingFish | Quick question for you: I downloaded a package yesterday which has presented an error the first time of opening (about 2 minutes ago) saying it's missing stuff that it should have. Clearly the things it needs aren't listed in its dependencies, but the packages are on launchpad. | 19:18 |
| BarkingFish | How can we link the two together so that downloading the main package (gally) also downloads the lesson pack to go with it | 19:19 |
| BarkingFish | ? | 19:19 |
| BluesKaj | BarkingFish, is there a ppa on launchpad ?, if so, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/name | 19:55 |
| BluesKaj | then update/.upgrade | 19:55 |
| BarkingFish | the lesson pack isn't packaged, it looks like quite an old package which hasn't been maintained for a long time, BluesKaj - last time any work was done on it was March 2010 | 19:56 |
| BarkingFish | to be honest, it's something i think (looking at it) we might consider taking out if it's not gonna get upgraded or amended | 19:56 |
| BluesKaj | is it in the repos for your OS version | 19:57 |
| BarkingFish | the lesson pack isn't, no. The program itself is. | 19:58 |
| BarkingFish | !info gally oneiric | 19:58 |
| ubottu | gally (source: gally): teaches sign languages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1build1 (oneiric), package size 64 kB, installed size 380 kB | 19:58 |
| BarkingFish | the lesson pack is a gzipped tarball though. doesn't look like it was ever packaged | 19:58 |
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| Riddell | hi MrChrisDruif | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aloha Riddell ^_^ | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks for getting to me before I could get to you guys | 21:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | I've heard from someone called littlegirl that you already have some kind of offline documentation in place? | 21:24 |
| Riddell | mm sadly I fear we don't | 21:24 |
| Riddell | we did but then the kubuntu website moved and I never got round to working out another one so I dropped it | 21:25 |
| Riddell | um | 21:26 |
| Riddell | bye | 21:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | Last line I got was: <Riddell> we did but then the kubuntu website moved and I never got round to working out another one so I dropped it | 21:29 |
| Riddell | aye that's all | 21:30 |
| Riddell | unless littlegirl knows different | 21:30 |
| Riddell | but it's not hard, you just generate the HTML and scp to web server | 21:31 |
| Riddell | wait offline, you mean the khelpcentre stuff? | 21:31 |
| Riddell | cos online with documentation can mean different things | 21:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | I meant offline ^_^ | 21:32 |
| Riddell | that can mean different things | 21:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | As in for computers without internet connection | 21:32 |
| Riddell | see kubuntu-docs, we package the docbook for khelpcentre | 21:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | She mentioned that as well | 21:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | So how did you come to have that kubuntu-docs for offline documentation? Was it all written from manpages or how should I see it? | 21:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | Seeing we from Lubuntu want to make start on something similar? | 21:34 |
| Riddell | it's written in docbook | 21:35 |
| Riddell | same as ubuntu-docs and indeed same as all the KDE documentation | 21:35 |
| Riddell | actually I think docbook is a bit too rigid, it works well while you have good maintainers who know docbook and it's no use for non-geeks | 21:36 |
| Riddell | I'd prefer a well ordered wiki really | 21:36 |
| Riddell | but wikis and well-ordered don't tend to be related concepts | 21:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, at least we try for Lubuntu, but it could be better I agree | 21:37 |
| Riddell | if you want packaged documentation you can look into docbook but you're best going with whatever lxde uses natively so you integrate | 21:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't think lxde has something integrated natively ^_^ | 21:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | But can't docbook be formatted in a more user friendly way? | 21:41 |
| Riddell | it can be exported to HTML yes | 21:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | It's all about what you put in it and in which layout etc right? | 21:42 |
| Riddell | that's faffy to do, you need a style sheet and whatnot | 21:42 |
| Riddell | it can be exported to PDF and a load of other formats too | 21:42 |
| Riddell | docbook is about pure document structure, the formatting is all in the stylesheets | 21:43 |
| Riddell | but the tools aren't easy to use | 21:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | It has (like the wiki?) a special syntax to make it look like you want? | 21:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: uploaded | 21:44 |
| Riddell | it's XML yes | 21:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | So basically what is up on the wiki could be "transformed" to the xml of docbook to make it offline available? | 21:44 |
| Riddell | I forget how the stylesheets are written or what tools to use, they were never well documented or maintained | 21:44 |
| Riddell | it could be, or you could just use wget on the wiki to get the HTML directly | 21:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Hmm, interesting subject this seems to be | 21:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know what has more memory requirements | 21:47 |
| Riddell | everyone runs a web browser so HTML has no memory requirments | 21:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | Locally stored pages for offline viewing also? | 21:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | ;-) | 21:50 |
| Riddell | sure | 21:51 |
| * BluesKaj wonders why sata to esata transfer speed is so slow ...how to track down the bottleneck ? | 21:52 | |
| BluesKaj | it should be at least 10X faster | 21:56 |
| BluesKaj | just one hdd to another , what could the problem be ...makes no sense | 21:57 |
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