=== ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [02:24] packages uploaded, will need 100 retries [04:48] * ScottK starts mashing the retry button. [04:48] 100 was conservative. [04:52] 100 retries? [05:22] More. It's one per arch, per pacakge. [05:24] I didn't count how many packages 4.8 has, but 4.7 was almost 80 and 4.8 is more. [05:24] ScottK: ubuntu-build FTW [05:25] last time I threw all the packages in a file and piped them to ubuntu-build [05:26] Can that do it for specific archs? [05:26] yep [05:27] -a IIRC [05:27] Where do I find it? [05:27] ubuntu-dev-tools :) [05:28] I see it. [05:28] you might get a timeout or 2 with that many packages though [05:28] but just run it again [05:43] This is definitely better. Thanks. [05:46] Riddell: no, I didn't see it. [07:07] fabo: it's from kde-packager [09:11] Riddell: Filed sync request (and FFe) for debconf-kde as bug #973202 [09:11] Launchpad bug 973202 in debconf-kde (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync debconf-kde 0.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973202 [09:20] ximion: is it only a bugfix release? [09:22] debfx: it is to 98% identical to the current Git snapshot, and the changes are only bugfixes [09:22] also API and ABI remain compatible (of course) [09:23] ximion: ok, then you don't need a FFe [09:23] debfx: okay [09:24] if the Kubuntu wouldn't have requested this sync request, I wouldn't have written it :P [09:24] (the 0.2. release contains only some code-improvements, which are very nice to have, but not critical) [09:24] (if you compare it to the current Git snapshot we shipped) [09:28] ximion: minor nitpick: debian/rules complains about "date: invalid date `+%s'" [09:30] debfx: what are you trying to do? [09:30] (haven't seen this message...) [09:30] just building the package [09:33] debfx: what do you think about bug #973224 [09:33] Launchpad bug 973224 in kdesdk (Ubuntu) "The kdesdk-dolphin-plugins description is missing information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973224 [09:37] ximion: if you only provide a symbols file for one arch you should use the -V option of dh_makeshlibs [09:39] bulldog98: makes sense, maybe we should just say "various version control systems" instead of listing all of them [09:40] debfx: I need to go over this symbols-file stuff again anyway, it constantly breaks [09:40] (one arch on Debian is adding symbols, others are removing symbols which are in the file etc...) [09:41] th date thing is weird... [09:41] yeah maintaining symbols files for c++ libs usually is no fun [09:42] especially when people don't like using opaque pointers :/ [09:42] I hate it - it never works as expected :P [09:56] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Jonathan Kolberg * 164 * debian/ (changelog control) Fixed the description of kdesdk-dolphin-plugins (LP: #973224) [10:05] debfx: should I upload ^ to kubuntu-ninjas? [10:09] bulldog98: nah, no need to upload that to ninjas [10:09] so I need someone to sponsor that [11:14] I'm a little bti lost with launchpad, hope you can help me [11:14] I want to have an akonadi-google package that imports the code from a different location [11:14] and put the result package in a ppa [11:15] more or less I figure out how to create a recipe and I already ahve the source package working [11:15] what i don't see how to do is the launchpad stuff, meaning creating the package, make my team owner of it etc === ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici [12:10] oh baby [12:10] 4.43M/s shiny new fibre optic connection [12:10] downloads CDs in 3 minutes [12:11] afiestas: so you want to import the code from git and make daily packages of akonadi-google? [12:16] hi rvs75 [12:16] hi [12:18] * Riddell nudges rvs75 to a /msg === apol_ is now known as apol [13:05] Hey all [13:08] Riddell: yes [13:13] afiestas: is there a project on launchpad for akonadi-google? [13:13] Riddell: yes, not mine though [13:13] that's fine [13:13] where is it? [13:13] nothing at https://launchpad.net/akonadi-google [13:13] https://launchpad.net/akonadigoogle [13:14] somebody has nicely already set up an import [13:14] https://code.launchpad.net/~benoitg/akonadigoogle/master [13:14] is this what you want? git://anongit.kde.org/akonadi-google [13:15] or do you have your own branch? [13:18] Riddell: I will have to setup it, but yes I want my own repo or branch [13:19] afiestas: well we can't package something that doesn't yet exist [13:19] so either we'll package it with patches or you need to set up your branch [13:23] Riddell: git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/afiestas/akonadi-google.git [13:24] not online yet [13:24] afiestas: when it's mirrored by anongit it can be fetched with git clone git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/afiestas/akonadi-google.git ? [13:25] yes [13:26] afiestas: groovy, when it's on anongit just fill this in https://code.launchpad.net/akonadigoogle/+new-import [13:26] set owner to be cyberspace and Branch Name: to something like akonadi-google-afiestas [13:27] I see [13:27] once the import is done we can work out the packaging, starting from this one would seem a sensible place https://code.launchpad.net/~benoitg/akonadigoogle/akonadigoogle.upstream_packaging [13:27] or maybe it can be used as is [13:27] afiestas: do you know this Benoit Grégoire guy? [13:27] damn this launchpad thing, makes me feel stupid for moments :/ [13:28] no no, it's packaging which makes upstreams feel ignorant :) [13:28] Riddell: in theory we should be able to use the recipe as well, right? [13:28] just changing the import repo to the new one [13:28] afiestas: right copy and adapt the recipe [13:28] let me disagree, it is not packaging it is launchpad as well :/ [13:28] I mean, I want to create somethign in cyberspace and for doing that I have to go to another project, and "import a branch" [13:29] that's not packaging argot but launchpad's :/ [13:29] yes, they do lack a designer now so some features miss the well thought out user expectations you'd hope for [13:56] 4.8.2 is out! [13:56] but I think we'll wait a bit before putting it on kubuntu.org, still some bits compiling [13:57] Riddell: do you know if the bug I reported has bveen fixed? [13:57] the one that needed the creation of .local/cache/ iirc [14:02] Ridell: great news 4.8.2 :) [14:02] afiestas: for telepathy? I not sure I'm afraid [14:02] thanks starbuck but we're not quite there yet :) [14:03] fixes some foldervie bugs hopefully :) [14:03] mm yes those should be in, good to have plasma desktop maintained again [14:03] Riddell: the ones for kdepim [14:05] Riddell: hi, I recently fixed some important stuff on Apper, what at this time would be best patch the package or a new release? [14:09] dantti: either is fine, we're not so burocratic to insist on patches only when a new release would have the same changes [14:10] * Riddell out for an hour or two [14:10] ok, thanks [14:15] Riddell: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kde-telepathy-send-file:kde4__ktp-send-file.desktop could not be read correctly is showing up in the terminal of fresh branches of USC is there someone I should bug about it (note it doesn't stop anything working from what I can tell) [14:22] When tryingto commit: Transport operation not possible: readonly transport [14:22] already imported my ssh key and all taht [14:22] Riddell: when you're back I have a fancy MR for you https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/kubuntu-packaging/plasma-widget-menubar-0.1.17/+merge/100768 :) [14:23] afiestas: sounds like a wrong bzr url [14:23] bzr branch lp:~cyberspace/akonadigoogle/akonadi-google-afiestas ? [14:24] I take it ~cyberspace is a team you are part of? [14:24] yes [14:25] afiestas: weird then, should work :/ [14:28] cloned again, worked now [14:28] agateau: doesn't dh_auto_test work (without an override)? [14:28] debfx: for some reason it does not run "make buildtests", just "make runtest" :/ [14:29] afiestas: ah, that's why your branch disappeared for a while from https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace :) [14:29] ? [14:30] afiestas: I went to this page, noticed your branch, clicked it, got a 404, went back to the branch list and the branch was not there anymore [14:30] and I did that? [14:31] lol I don't see it anymore netiher :s [14:31] hello, the lp:changed: [14:31] https://code.launchpad.net/akonadi-google [14:31] its correct and macthing now with the "-" [14:32] starbuck: https://code.launchpad.net/akonadigoogle it still exists though [14:32] oh I guess you deleted my branch starbuck ? [14:32] sure, its not maintained by cyberpsace [14:32] yeah, i switched your branch [14:33] everything else is as is [14:33] starbuck: I'm not sure if having another project is the correct thing to do, at least not pointing to my scratch repo [14:33] akonadi-google should point to the official repo [14:33] then we can call it fiestas [14:33] (not sure what are the rules) [14:33] yes [14:34] then akonadigoogle can of course switch too [14:35] i think akonadi-google is better for official than akonadigoogle, but then im not to decide where official one will point to? [14:37] starbuck: no idea, but we don't want to manage official stuff but instead have our small place [14:38] anyway we need a special branch only for the next weeks until we merge our patches with the official one [14:38] sure, so for now we can use akonadi-google for extending your branch with afiestas to show [14:38] Riddell: arm boxen [14:38] something seems broken [14:39] then its best if akonadi-google uses this for official one, unfortunately i can't make an official branch here since it can only be imported at one place at a time [14:41] ScottK: could you look at http://paste.kde.org/451814/ ? [14:41] I'm not sure how I should proceed forward [14:44] * ScottK neither. === emma is now known as em [15:07] how can I add a ppa in a recipe? the required dependency will only be found there [15:07] is it with merge packaging ? [15:37] afiestas, http://askubuntu.com/questions/88932/how-to-use-a-recipe-to-deal-with-ppa-package-dependency-change-across-distributi === lool- is now known as lool [17:19] Hi all. Wanted to point out that Telepathy .3 for 11.10 is working fine; however Telepathy .3 is not working for 12.04. I'm assuming it's a packaging issue based on the sources that were available at the time that have, I thjnk, since been corrected. [17:20] *think [17:20] what version of telepathy exists in 12.04 ? [17:23] .3 also. .3.1 is out (I think) but hasn't hit yet. I just checked the kde-telepathy channel and Arch has the same issue. No accounts can connect. [17:25] Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/451898/ may help [17:29] ronnoc: Thats' KDE-telepathy. Which Telepathy is packaged? [17:30] Far as I know emp [17:31] athy and KDE-telepathy both moved to Telepathy 0.9 which is completely incompatible with KDE-telepathy 0.8 which is what kde-telepathy 0.3 uses [17:34] libtelepathy-qt4-2 for 12.04 is .9.1 | for 11.10 it's .9.0 [17:34] ronnoc: hum? telepathy-kde is working great for me [17:34] in 12.04 [17:34] how did you install it? [17:35] Riddell: are you installing kde-telepathy 0.3 ? [17:35] kde-telepathy: Installed: 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 [17:36] oh Telepathy 0.9 ? [17:37] davmor2: "branches of USC" is software centre? when does that show up? [17:38] Riddell: Yes, I have .3 installed on both, however it's only working in 11.10. My 12.04 is stock repos, all updated. For 11.10, I'm using the telepathy-kde ppa [17:38] telepathy-mission-control-5 1:5.11.0-1ubuntu2 [17:38] ronnoc: hum that probably needs a telepathy-kde person to debug it [17:38] but they're busy on 0.4 [17:39] ronnoc: does empathy work? [17:39] Riddell: in the terminal when you run ./software-center the first time it compiles a local list of applications to pool from, it is here that the error appears, as I say it's not a biggy by any means but it shows up everytime I have a fresh branch for USC [17:39] Riddell: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58052-Telepathy-is-not-connecting&highlight=telepathy [17:40] ronnoc: mm, so not just you, tsk [17:41] Riddell: As long as .3.1 will hit before release, and it will, for 12.04 might as well wait for the packages and test and worry about it then, if needed? [17:41] ronnoc: yeah I think that's the hing [17:41] thing to do for now [17:42] I hope to package that tomorrow [17:42] Riddell: sounds like a plan :) [17:56] are there any package management systems that allow personal user install of software ? [17:57] klik [18:01] ha nice. What happened to that? [18:03] http://portablelinuxapps.org is the answer [18:22] what are XDG_DATA_DIRS ? it's only one of many suggestions to fix a broken akonadi agent [18:24] rbelem: any status update for the kwin-active patch? [18:26] BBL..errands === KRF_ is now known as KRF [18:38] mgraesslin, i got some build errors [18:38] mgraesslin, i fixed some [18:38] mgraesslin, but there is one that i did not have time to fix === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [19:16] Evening guys :) [19:18] Quick question for you: I downloaded a package yesterday which has presented an error the first time of opening (about 2 minutes ago) saying it's missing stuff that it should have. Clearly the things it needs aren't listed in its dependencies, but the packages are on launchpad. [19:19] How can we link the two together so that downloading the main package (gally) also downloads the lesson pack to go with it [19:19] ? [19:55] BarkingFish, is there a ppa on launchpad ?, if so, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/name [19:55] then update/.upgrade [19:56] the lesson pack isn't packaged, it looks like quite an old package which hasn't been maintained for a long time, BluesKaj - last time any work was done on it was March 2010 [19:56] to be honest, it's something i think (looking at it) we might consider taking out if it's not gonna get upgraded or amended [19:57] is it in the repos for your OS version [19:58] the lesson pack isn't, no. The program itself is. [19:58] !info gally oneiric [19:58] gally (source: gally): teaches sign languages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1build1 (oneiric), package size 64 kB, installed size 380 kB [19:58] the lesson pack is a gzipped tarball though. doesn't look like it was ever packaged === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [21:23] hi MrChrisDruif [21:23] Aloha Riddell ^_^ [21:23] Thanks for getting to me before I could get to you guys [21:24] I've heard from someone called littlegirl that you already have some kind of offline documentation in place? [21:24] mm sadly I fear we don't [21:25] we did but then the kubuntu website moved and I never got round to working out another one so I dropped it [21:26] um [21:27] bye [21:29] Last line I got was: we did but then the kubuntu website moved and I never got round to working out another one so I dropped it [21:30] aye that's all [21:30] unless littlegirl knows different [21:31] but it's not hard, you just generate the HTML and scp to web server [21:31] wait offline, you mean the khelpcentre stuff? [21:31] cos online with documentation can mean different things [21:32] I meant offline ^_^ [21:32] that can mean different things [21:32] As in for computers without internet connection [21:32] see kubuntu-docs, we package the docbook for khelpcentre [21:32] She mentioned that as well [21:34] So how did you come to have that kubuntu-docs for offline documentation? Was it all written from manpages or how should I see it? [21:34] Seeing we from Lubuntu want to make start on something similar? [21:35] it's written in docbook [21:35] same as ubuntu-docs and indeed same as all the KDE documentation [21:36] actually I think docbook is a bit too rigid, it works well while you have good maintainers who know docbook and it's no use for non-geeks [21:36] I'd prefer a well ordered wiki really [21:36] but wikis and well-ordered don't tend to be related concepts [21:37] Well, at least we try for Lubuntu, but it could be better I agree [21:39] if you want packaged documentation you can look into docbook but you're best going with whatever lxde uses natively so you integrate [21:40] I don't think lxde has something integrated natively ^_^ [21:41] But can't docbook be formatted in a more user friendly way? [21:42] it can be exported to HTML yes [21:42] It's all about what you put in it and in which layout etc right? [21:42] that's faffy to do, you need a style sheet and whatnot [21:42] it can be exported to PDF and a load of other formats too [21:43] docbook is about pure document structure, the formatting is all in the stylesheets [21:43] but the tools aren't easy to use [21:43] It has (like the wiki?) a special syntax to make it look like you want? [21:44] agateau: uploaded [21:44] it's XML yes [21:44] So basically what is up on the wiki could be "transformed" to the xml of docbook to make it offline available? [21:44] I forget how the stylesheets are written or what tools to use, they were never well documented or maintained [21:45] it could be, or you could just use wget on the wiki to get the HTML directly [21:46] Hmm, interesting subject this seems to be [21:47] I don't know what has more memory requirements [21:49] everyone runs a web browser so HTML has no memory requirments [21:50] Locally stored pages for offline viewing also? [21:50] ;-) [21:51] sure [21:52] * BluesKaj wonders why sata to esata transfer speed is so slow ...how to track down the bottleneck ? [21:56] it should be at least 10X faster [21:57] just one hdd to another , what could the problem be ...makes no sense === yofel_ is now known as yofel === je4d_ is now known as je4d