| thomi | Ordering bugs by age in the new bug UI seems really broken. I get 1 day old, 187 days old, 28 days old - in that order. | 01:04 |
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| lifeless | thomi: it orders by task age, not bug age. | 01:16 |
| lifeless | yes, its confusing. | 01:16 |
| thomi | oh, ok. | 01:16 |
| lifeless | the squad doing it felt it was the least of several evils | 01:16 |
| * thomi needs to learn the difference between a task and a bug :) | 01:16 | |
| thomi | fair enough :) | 01:16 |
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| apw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio | 08:57 |
| apw | ^^ do we have a problem with the per release links in the versions pages ? | 08:58 |
| apw | i assume we released something today | 08:58 |
| wgrant | apw: What's the problem? | 08:59 |
| apw | wgrant, ok i think it may be an old problem, as its possibly 'has an epoch' specific | 09:00 |
| apw | wgrant, try and click on the package versions next to the arrows > | 09:00 |
| wgrant | That's quite plausible, and it works fine for me. | 09:00 |
| wgrant | Which browser? | 09:00 |
| apw | this is chromium | 09:00 |
| * apw fires up firefox to compare | 09:01 | |
| wgrant | Firefox here | 09:01 |
| apw | wgrant, ok so its ok in firefox, and ok on the linux package, but not pulseaudio which has an epoch ... /me pokes | 09:01 |
| wgrant | I remember a bug here. | 09:03 |
| wgrant | And it only affects some people. | 09:03 |
| wgrant | But I can't remember why. | 09:03 |
| * wgrant hunts. | 09:03 | |
| wgrant | Bug #820174 | 09:03 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 820174 in Launchpad itself "Expanders on DistributionSourcePackage:+index broken by LP.cache changes" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820174 | 09:03 |
| wgrant | Hm | 09:03 |
| wgrant | But that's fixed. | 09:03 |
| apw | wgrant, yeah i think it must be a chromium bug as the source of the page looks all fine in its own 'view source' | 09:03 |
| * wgrant tries in Chromium | 09:04 | |
| apw | wgrant, and its not the expander arrows, but the normal link on the name next to them thats the problem | 09:04 |
| wgrant | Oh | 09:04 |
| wgrant | What happens when you try them? | 09:04 |
| apw | they are invalid and nothing happens | 09:04 |
| wgrant | Ah | 09:05 |
| wgrant | Interesting | 09:05 |
| wgrant | Yeah, Chromium trims everything before the colon. | 09:05 |
| wgrant | How Windowsy of it. | 09:05 |
| apw | they are %31:1.1-0ubuntu14 stylee | 09:05 |
| apw | <a href="1:1.1-0ubuntu14"> | 09:05 |
| apw | but that is whats in the source | 09:06 |
| apw | hmmm, has to be a parser bug in chromium | 09:06 |
| wgrant | : is fine in URLs AFAICT | 09:07 |
| apw | wgrant, is it? | 09:07 |
| wgrant | As in in the RFC | 09:07 |
| apw | how is a browser supposed to know 1:foo is not protocol type 1 ? | 09:07 |
| wgrant | Ah, true. | 09:07 |
| apw | now it may be a protocol has to start with a letter or something | 09:07 |
| apw | and i be making it ./1: will fix it | 09:08 |
| wgrant | We can probably just quote the : | 09:08 |
| apw | wgrant, yeah that too | 09:09 |
| wgrant | apw: Care to file a bug? | 09:09 |
| apw | wgrant, aginst launchpad ? | 09:09 |
| wgrant | yeah | 09:09 |
| wgrant | bbs | 09:09 |
| apw | wgrant, no worries | 09:09 |
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| apw | wgrant, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/973212 | 09:24 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 973212 in Launchpad itself "package version page version links are relative and contain a : which is parsed as a protocol specifier in chromium" [Undecided,New] | 09:24 |
| Phantomas | Is it possible to change the subscribing policy of a mailing list in Launchpad? I'd like everyone to be able to subscribe to our mailing list. | 11:12 |
| czajkowski | Phantomas: is it a LP mailing list? | 11:14 |
| czajkowski | Phantomas: people join a team on lp then join that's how it works. | 11:14 |
| Phantomas | czajkowski: If we talk about a project developers team, owning branches etc, I don't think it would be a good idea to allow everyone to become a member just to be able to subscribe to the mailing list | 11:15 |
| czajkowski | Phantomas: thats how lp lists work though. | 11:16 |
| Phantomas | alright, but I think this feature could become more flexible... The archives are public, so I think there is no reason to not allow subscriptions to everyone. | 11:19 |
| czajkowski | Phantomas: http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/contacting-teams-is-easier-and-more-reliable that was done recently to help people | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | so they can contact the team | 11:21 |
| afiestas | hey there, I need to build a package from a different source repository and add the resulting package to our ppa | 11:22 |
| afiestas | I have been trying to figure out where to create a branch for it here: https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace (owned by cyberspace) but so far no luck | 11:23 |
| afiestas | I'm admin but not owner of the project, I can add members change details etc | 11:23 |
| afiestas | so I guess I should be able to add a branch right? | 11:23 |
| Phantomas | czajkowski: Yes, it's a nice feature, but it doesn't allow users to be informed on the development process and decisions made in the mailing list. They have to browse the archives. | 11:25 |
| lifeless | Phantomas: setup a second team | 11:33 |
| lifeless | Phantomas: one team for the list, one team for access controls. | 11:33 |
| Phantomas | lifeless: the team for the list would be a sub-team? | 11:34 |
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| mpt | Come on Launchpad, all I want is a list of packages that have "policykit" in their names, it shouldn't be that strenuous... | 15:30 |
| czajkowski | mpt: are you breaking things ? | 15:31 |
| nigelb | mpt: Isn't it easier done with apt-cache search policykit? | 15:31 |
| mpt | czajkowski, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=policykit has timed out for me about six times in a row so far | 15:31 |
| mpt | nigelb, I didn't know that :-) | 15:31 |
| mpt | thanks | 15:31 |
| nigelb | :) | 15:31 |
| mpt | nigelb, except that they look like binary packages, whereas I was more interested in a source package I can report a bug on | 15:32 |
| mpt | (I know that it's not called plain "policykit", because that's a package that's been obsoleted by something else) | 15:32 |
| nigelb | ah | 15:33 |
| nigelb | mpt: alternative place to search is packages.ubuntu.com | 15:33 |
| czajkowski | I suspect there are either a lotta bugs with that tag or duplicates/people assinged to them and it's causing it to fail :/ | 15:33 |
| mpt | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1 << winner | 15:33 |
| nigelb | ha! | 15:34 |
| nigelb | did you get it off LP? | 15:34 |
| mpt | czajkowski, it doesn't involve Bugs at all afaict, purely package search | 15:34 |
| mpt | nigelb, no, by guessing from all the "-1"s in the apt-cache results | 15:34 |
| nigelb | aha! :) | 15:34 |
| nigelb | So, packages.u.c nails it straight away. | 15:35 |
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| dobey | mpt: does ubuntu-bug not tab complete installed package names? :) | 17:02 |
| mpt | dobey, the textual detritus ubuntu-bug attaches to a bug report is seldom relevant to the kind of bugs I report, so I don't often use it | 17:04 |
| dobey | mpt: ah. apt-cache show tab completes through available binary packages, and you can |grep ^Source it to get the source package name, as well. and if there's no "Source" the source package name should be the same as the binary package name | 17:06 |
| mpt | ah | 17:07 |
| mpt | I don't use "^" in patterns often enough to remember that it's "^" and not something else | 17:07 |
| mpt | but thanks dobey :-) | 17:07 |
| dobey | heh, sure :) | 17:13 |
| rick_h | 761142 | 17:14 |
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| mgz | czajkowski: if you're not EOD yet, | 17:39 |
| mgz | <https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/192656> | 17:39 |
| mgz | favourite kind of ssh setup problem. | 17:40 |
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| lifeless | Phantomas: if you want it to be, sure. | 18:26 |
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| JanC | are there any rules/guidelines about how often the LP API can be queried? | 19:09 |
| dobey | JanC: "don't abuse it" | 19:30 |
| JanC | dobey: if you list info from LP with a "live" query on another site, others can do the "abuse" | 19:34 |
| JanC | either intentionally or not | 19:34 |
| JanC | "unintentionally" would be lots of visitors on the page that does the live query | 19:36 |
| dobey | JanC: you should do caching so that you only make a request to launchpad.net every N seconds or so, if that's the case | 19:37 |
| dobey | there's no point doing the same query 3000 times in the same second, for example | 19:38 |
| dobey | and several seconds of delay isn't a huge penalty when looking at the other site | 19:38 |
| JanC | right, that's what I thought, and I personally think 1 query / second is overkill already ;) | 19:38 |
| JanC | dobey: so there are no general rules about this? | 19:39 |
| JanC | or hard limits ? | 19:39 |
| dobey | i have a site doing some queries to google docs, and cache it with a 90s timeout, but it's a low traffic site | 19:39 |
| dobey | JanC: i suspect it's "if you abuse it, you or your site will get blocked pretty quickly" | 19:40 |
| dobey | hopefully you're only doing anonymous api calls if it's from another site | 19:41 |
| JanC | most web APIs I know have hard rate-limits, that's also why I was asking (and I am gathering arguments to provide to somebody else who is making that site ;) ) | 19:41 |
| dobey | i don't think there's any way to use the API with a token that isn't associated with a user | 19:41 |
| dobey | JanC: indeed, but a lot are also just "don't be stupid" | 19:42 |
| JanC | they are querying for team members | 19:42 |
| JanC | of about 10 (sub)teams | 19:42 |
| dobey | the google+ api is nice, as you can pass on the user's IP through, so that the limit is based on each IP, rather than your api token | 19:42 |
| JanC | dobey: so how does Google know those IPs are for real? ;) | 19:43 |
| * JanC thinks they have some other monitoring going on too | 19:43 | |
| dobey | because writing something that abused that would be a total waste of effort, really | 19:44 |
| dobey | so they probably don't really care | 19:44 |
| dobey | and there's no real reason to abuse it | 19:44 |
| dobey | anyway, cache it | 19:45 |
| dobey | team memberships don't change often enough not to | 19:45 |
| JanC | dobey: yeah, my argument too; even a 1h delay isn't really important for that IMO | 19:47 |
| dobey | indeed | 19:49 |
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| astraljava | Apologies if this is a hot topic right now, but are there problems with LP right now? It seems roughly 10%, very recently even less, of my requests are being served. Times out almost all the time. | 20:10 |
| dobey | i haven't had any issues with it really, no | 20:12 |
| astraljava | So it's some sort of a routing issue, then. Thanks. | 20:13 |
| dobey | well, it could be something with launchpad | 20:13 |
| dobey | are you getting timeouts on launchpad itself (with an OOPS id printed out), or timeouts connecting to it? | 20:14 |
| astraljava | dobey: Connecting, and looks like a dns issue. $ tracepath https://launchpad.net | 20:14 |
| astraljava | gethostbyname2: Unknown host | 20:14 |
| astraljava | Sorry for the noise. | 20:14 |
| astraljava | err... no, apparently I just don't know how to use that. :) | 20:15 |
| astraljava | tracepath launchpad.net let's me up to hop 22: eth0.chenet.canonical.com | 20:16 |
| astraljava | ...and now it serves again. Again, sorry for the noise. I get me coat. | 20:18 |
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