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marcoceppijcastro: Dear god man!00:30
jonowow, today was a record05:39
jonoI just realized I have been working non-stop for 16 hours05:39
jonoI started at 6am today05:39
jonobeen a heck of a fun day too :-)05:40
jonoand with that, shower05:42
jonoback soon05:42
nigelbjono: One of days huh? :)06:01
jononigelb, :-)06:01
jononight all!06:01
dholbachgood morning07:03
dholbachjussi, popey: happy birthday! :)07:04
bkerensajussi, popey: happy birthday!!07:32
czajkowskimorning07:40
jalcineHappy birthday jussi and popey :D08:05
nigelbbkerensa: Isn't it your birthday as well?08:21
dholbachballoons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing-qt-fix/+merge/10074608:35
dholbachnigelb, it was some days ago08:35
nigelbdholbach: Ah. I should login to FB more often.08:36
dholbach:)08:36
nigelbdholbach: also, lol. I saw the crack on community team comment much much later :P08:38
nigelbHilarious08:38
dholbachnigelb, eh? which one was that?08:38
nigelbdholbach: this one http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/03/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t13:3708:39
nigelb:)08:39
dholbachhaha08:40
dholbachjames_w, who do you think could MC if we were to play at UDS again? :)09:24
jussidholbach: bkerensa: thanks!10:02
nigelbjussi: Birthday boy!10:03
nigelbHappy Birthday10:03
jussinigelb: :)10:03
nigelbpopey is busy thrashing Microsoft :P10:03
jussibah, how do I turn off the password request everytime unity turns off my screen. annoying!10:03
jussinigelb: ooh, thats new10:03
nigelbjussi: zomg. You're using Unity?10:04
jussinigelb: testing...10:04
dholbachmhall119, is the quickly template / singlet stuff in precise the latest and greatest?10:04
dholbachmhall119, I'm having some problems install / uninstalling10:04
dholbachespecially when your project name contains '-' it seems to get a bit confused10:04
sagacijussi, turn off screen lock10:05
jussisagaci: how? :)10:05
sagacipower cog > system settings >  brightness and lock > untick "require my password..."10:06
nigelbI usually like that feature.10:07
sagaciI turn off all suspend/hibernate and lock features10:11
popeyhappy birthday jussi :D10:13
popeyclearly the best day of the year for birthdays10:13
dholbachdpm, was there a singlet article in progress somewhere? :)10:13
sagacimuch prefer system settings, rather than separated options in System > Preferences/Administration10:14
dholbachmhall119, did you mean to get singlet 0.2.2 into precise? lp:~mhall119/singlet/precise-package looks like it -let me know if you want it sponsored10:16
dpmdholbach, there's a lens tutorial draft in d.u.c. It uses the quickly lens template package, which I think it's based on singlet10:16
dholbachyep10:16
dholbachok, let me go check it out10:16
dholbachI'm clearly doing something wrong :-P10:16
nigelbpopey: I think you're biased about the best day for birthday thing :P10:37
nigelbalso.10:37
nigelbHappy birthday popey!10:37
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nothingspecialright, I think I'm back for good and angies gone :D10:44
dpmok, leaving early to start Easter Holidays, see you all on Tuesday!11:46
dholbachRadium, Sulfur: got any other elements lined up? :-)11:57
sagacihaha11:59
dholbachbrb11:59
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mhall119dholbach: yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-singlet/+bug/95531712:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 955317 in unity-singlet "Update unity-singlet to version 0.2.2" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:17
mhall119dholbach: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly-lens-templates/+bug/955330 for the quickly lens template12:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 955330 in quickly-lens-templates "Update quickly-unity-lens-template to version 0.0.3" [Undecided,Incomplete]12:17
dholbachaha!12:18
dholbachyou should have subscribed ubuntu-sponsors12:19
dholbachlet me take a look at it now12:19
mhall119ubuntu-sponsors?  The FFe instructions just said to subscribe ubuntu-release12:20
dholbachah yes, that's just for the freeze exception12:20
dholbachin any case I'll take care of it now12:22
dholbachmhall119, for singlet are you OK with me applying this diff? http://paste.ubuntu.com/914448/12:23
dholbachit would automatically close the bug on upload, also would -0ubuntu1 be the correct versioning for a release which has never been in Debian yet12:24
dholbachalso debian-policy is up to 3.9.312:24
dholbach(these are all minor points)12:24
dholbachmhall119, is lp:~mhall119/unity-quickly-templates/precise-package up to date?12:26
mhall119dholbach: it is now12:27
mhall119dholbach: that diff looks fine12:28
dholbachok, I'l apply something similar for the templates12:28
dholbachdo a test build12:28
dholbachand then use those 2 packages after a dog walk :)12:28
mhall119cool, thanks dholbach12:29
dholbachde nada12:29
dholbachmhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/914458/ would be the other diff - in case you want to apply in your branch12:32
dholbachmhall119, uploaded12:32
mhall119dholbach: applied those patches to the source tree12:36
dholbachcool12:36
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jussiHappy Birthday popey!12:39
mhall119it's popey's birthday?12:41
mhall119happy birthday popey!12:41
jussipopey: yes, it is the best day for a birthday12:44
mhall119dang, it's jussi's birthday too, and I missed bkerensa's birtday yesterday12:48
mhall119happy birthday jussi, happy birthday bkerensa12:48
* mhall119 blames lack of Facebook12:49
nigelbjcastro: After seeing juju in action -- pretty cool stuff!12:50
jussimhall119: thanks :)12:59
dakerhey jcastro bug 97303714:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 973037 in ubuntu-cloud-portal "AMI locator "name" field should use version numbers rather than codenames" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97303714:19
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jcastrodaker, it's a good idea, we shouldn't even use the animal name IMO14:21
dholbachmhall119, do you have a bit of time to talk me through lenses stuff? :)14:29
mhall119dholbach: give me 10 minutes?14:30
dholbachsure14:30
* dholbach puts on the hold music14:30
jcastroheya balloons!!14:41
balloonsheya :-)14:41
dholbachmhall119, I think I figured it out14:41
jcastroballoons, ok so for maas14:41
* balloons doesn't know est from edt from utc14:41
jcastroballoons, do you have a URL for the stuff they want people banging on?14:42
dholbachmhall119, I'll play around some more and maybe have you have a look when I'm done to say which starts are done in a stupid way :)14:42
dholbachballoons, some my merge proposal?14:42
balloonsDaniel, yes I did thank you14:42
dholbachcool - let me know if that works for you or if some parts are confusing or unclear :)14:42
balloonsjcastro, umm.. yes.. the "stuff" is in checkbox14:43
balloonsbut there's also a page14:43
balloonslet me dig it out14:43
jcastro<314:43
dholbachI can't believe it, I wrote a lens! (I think I just had to restart unity 500 times)14:43
dholbachbut let me put some more work into it, before I show it :)14:43
balloonsjcastro, hmm.. well http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/docs/juju-quick-start.rst http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/HACKING.txt14:47
balloonsbetter ask Diogo if there was another link I'm not remembering14:47
mhall119dholbach: ready14:49
mhall119dholbach: um, why did you have to restart Unity so much?14:50
dholbachmhall119, don't I have to       sudo quickly install; quickly run         every time I want to test it?14:50
* dholbach prepares to change workflow14:50
mhall119dholbach: no, quickly install is only needed the first time (or if you add/remove categories to your lens)14:51
dholbachaha!14:51
dholbachthat's good to know14:51
mhall119if you're just working on your search method, just "quickly run" is enough14:51
* mhall119 apologizes to dholbach's graphics card for all the unity restarts14:51
dholbachperfect :)14:52
dholbachthanks mhall11914:52
jonoballoons, can you update the weekly testing doc as soon as possible14:59
jonorespond to the comments in there14:59
jonomhall119, dholbach, jcastro all set for the call?14:59
* balloons didn't see any new comments14:59
jcastronod14:59
dholbachyep14:59
jonoballoons, I added a bunch last night and this morning14:59
balloonsohh.. lookey there.. wonder why I didn't get the mail15:00
balloonsresponding now :-)15:00
mhall119jono: ready15:00
jonomhall119, dholbach, jcastro https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=15:01
jcastroballoons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MAAS15:57
jcastroI've started15:57
nigelbMAAS sounds great.15:58
balloonsjcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS15:58
jcastrooh15:58
jcastrook15:58
* jcastro deletes15:58
balloons:-)15:58
balloonsit's sort of different on the layout15:59
balloonsclick a link, and the page continues15:59
jcastroworks for me16:01
jcastrook so we're missing the "How to test" parts right?16:01
czajkowskijcastro: might be worth asking mrvell or the other folks on lp if that documetaion is being done atm or waiting on stuff16:02
jcastroon it16:03
balloonsjcastro, http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases16:04
jcastroballoons: ok and MAAS test cases are in there right?16:05
jcastroand they do need the PPA for that?16:06
balloonsyes they are in there16:06
balloonsunder MAAS16:06
balloonsand some juju16:06
balloonsunder juju16:06
balloonsohh and there's some for maas installation16:07
jcastrook so where in the process does the user do these tests16:07
jcastrois it like "read these docs, install, configure, then run the tests" or is it "do this one part, test. Do the next part, test."16:07
balloonsso there labled as such 'Juju tests', 'MAAS server tests', 'MAAS installation tests'16:07
balloonsright so.. we need to have a sane workflow16:08
balloonsso.. read the docs..16:08
balloonsinstall the ppa16:08
balloonsrun the MAAS installation tests, MAAS server tests, juju tests16:08
balloonsi mean.. I guess overview of what maas is16:09
balloonsthen how to install16:09
balloonsand how to run16:09
balloonsand while your installing, I guess you follow along with the tests to test the different installs16:09
jcastrok, I'm on #ubuntu-server asking16:11
dholbachalright my friends - I'll see you tomorrow16:45
dholbachhave a great rest of your day :)16:45
balloonsdholbach . . .16:48
dakerusing 11.04 with unity-2D is a real pain17:05
balloonsjcastro, are you ok with changing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS to have a list of the links.. I feel like a summary page if you will is missing17:09
balloonsI guess i'm just crazy17:09
jcastroballoons: mrevell told me the wiki page is what they are pointing people to, so I guess we can ignore the generated docs for now17:10
jcastroballoons: I think what we should do is add a summary thing up top17:10
balloonsDiogo said it was ok to point to the docs17:10
jcastroyeah but the problem is we can't fix the docs17:10
balloonsmaybe we can create your community page and point it to that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS page17:10
jcastrolike, I fixed 2 things on there17:11
balloonsand include the docs as reference17:11
balloonsand your blog writeup17:11
balloonsmake sense?17:11
balloonsand mention the checkbox tests there also17:11
jcastroyeah, so I was thinking a header for the MAAS section17:11
jcastroand then have a section for the tests17:11
jcastro(I updated my blog to point to the wiki pages FYI)17:11
balloonsk17:11
pleia2ooh, I can talk about MaaS now17:11
balloonsI saw you on hackernews last night btw17:12
balloonshehe17:12
balloonsI was tempted to mod you down, but...17:12
balloonslololololol17:12
jcastroballoons: give me 2 minutes and I'll show you what I mean17:13
balloonsI'll let you have at it17:13
balloonsjust let me know if and where you need me to add content17:13
jcastrook refresh17:14
jcastroI made a MAASHeader page17:14
jcastroand then stole the header from the main page17:14
jcastrowe just need to customize MAASHeader to point to all the crap we need17:14
jcastroso like, create a "Testing MAAS" one17:14
jcastroand then just create a page for it17:14
jcastrowith instructions17:14
balloonsyep, makes sense17:16
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing17:16
jcastrothere you go dude17:17
jcastroballoons: ok so just step by step it on that page17:21
balloonsjcastro, lol.. I didn't realize you were a coolcat and owned your name: http://www.jorgecastro.org/18:03
snap-lThat's probably the most organization jcastro has. ;)18:11
snap-l(the .org)18:11
balloonsjcastro, ok, I'll fill that page in18:20
balloonsjcastro, I like the header.. just what i was thining18:21
balloonssnap-l, ohh, snap!18:26
dakernigelb, http://pastebin.com/VYKCYYty18:30
dakeropps :/18:30
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jcastroballoons: ok so I am confused19:23
balloonsok, shoot19:23
jcastro"At the moment, the checkbox tests are only available via checkbox-qt, and not via checkbox-cli. This means you can't run them from the command line for now"19:23
jcastroso you run that on your desktop and point to the server or what?19:23
balloonsI wrote everything quickly.. so :-)19:23
jcastrodon't tell me the MAAS server needs to be running X19:23
balloonslol.. no it doesn't19:23
balloonsbut ideally you would run the tests on the maas server via checkbox-cli I'd guess19:23
balloonsI think checkbox-cli might still use the gtk test format19:24
balloonsI'm not sure19:24
balloonsat any rate.. yea.. you need to run the tests on a desktop with x and qt19:24
jcastrook19:24
jcastroI will try it19:24
balloonswhich I suppose is ok.. seeing as you would likely be ssh'd in19:24
jcastronod19:24
balloonsand it's probably easier that way19:24
balloonsread the test, do it on the server19:24
balloonsreporting would be a pain on the server without the browser also19:25
balloonstry putting an edit on what i said to say that better19:25
balloonsor just don't even mention it19:25
balloonsand say run the tests on your desktop, execute on the server19:25
jcastromhall119: hey19:42
jcastrospeaking of pv19:42
jcastroit needs an optional libunity thing19:42
jcastroso that any sysadmin can pipe to pv and have their script progress on the unity launcher19:43
jcastroyou know that would rock.19:43
MrChrisDruifSir jono; How is that achievement thingy getting along? Latest I've seen about it that you had about 2 juju achievements (was on youtube)19:46
mhall119jcastro: I'm still not sold on making a CLI app display progress in the Launcher19:50
mhall119MrChrisDruif: check his blog19:51
MrChrisDruifmhall119; I don't do that very often (I don't have it bookmarked ;-) )19:51
mhall119MrChrisDruif: http://www.jonobacon.org/blog/19:51
mhall119he had an update on accomplishments just today19:52
MrChrisDruifGhehe, perfect timing then ^_^19:52
jcastroballoons: is the PPA built?20:41
jcastroI think I am going to put the PPA instructions on the MAAS page itself20:41
jcastroand then screenie some MAAS-specific stuff20:42
balloonsyes ppa is built deployed.. I installed it and ran it to triple check20:43
balloonssure.. not a problem20:43
balloonslet me know if you need anything20:43
jcastrojono: ok this is about ready, did you want to blog Nick's stuff or you want me to do it?20:45
jcastrofor the MAAS testing?20:45
jonojcastro, go ahead20:45
jcastroballoons: hah suckfest, I have to uncheck all these tests if I only care about servers20:47
jcastrono big deal though20:47
balloonsrightclick20:48
balloonsdeselect all20:48
jcastronice!20:48
jcastrook I will put that in the instructions20:48
balloonsit also prompts about ubuntu friendly20:48
balloons:-(20:48
balloonsI fixed all that, but I'm failing to package properly or checkbox hates me, etc20:48
jcastroyeah20:48
balloonswhatever it is.. it's like that for now20:48
balloonsit's running checkbox-qt from the archie20:49
balloonsand not my modded version20:49
balloonsbut it's not a huge deal.. my mods are pretty minor20:49
jcastrowhat's moin for images again?20:50
balloonsattachment20:54
balloonsyou can just look at my page20:54
balloonsedit it20:54
balloonsand copy the syntax20:54
jcastrogot it20:54
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing20:55
jcastroyeah baby, how's that?20:55
jcastroah dude20:55
jcastrothe instructions in checkbox point to the lp docs, not the wiki docs20:55
MrChrisDruifjcastro; {{ }} ?20:58
jcastrogot it, ta20:59
balloonsjcastro, all set?21:17
jcastroyeah, writing my blog21:18
balloonsjcastro, yea.. page looks a bit nicer21:18
balloonsthanks21:18
balloonsohh you mean.. the checkbox tests point to lpo21:18
balloonsyea.. gotcha21:18
jcastroyeah we want to point to the wiki pages21:22
jcastrosince we're updating those already21:22
jcastroballoons: blogging!21:30
* balloons checks jorgecastro.org21:31
jcastrohttp://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/04/kicking-the-tires-on-maas/21:31
balloonsawesome21:32
jbichajcastro: saw your post just in time to undo my Gmail send21:35
jcastrojbicha: about?21:35
jcastrohttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/rtkp3/got_some_spare_servers_laying_around_help_us_test/21:35
jcastrocan I get some upboats folks?21:35
jbichaI was emailing Jim, a local self-employed sysadmin who really loved your juju talk last week at POSSCON21:36
jcastrohe sent me this awesome email, but I haven't had time to respond21:36
jbichahad to add one more link to the email21:36
jbichaI saw him again today, he's just really disappointed that more people didn't attend the workshop21:37
jbichamaybe part of that is that juju is so new people don't know what it is21:37
jcastroit's ok, it's hard to explain to people21:38
jcastroit's just a grindstone of having to keep explaining it over and over, at some point people will get it21:38
jbichaand I didn't know what devops meant until last week21:38
balloonsjcastro, jbicha you see they are hungry for the community team ama21:40
jcastrohah22:03
jcastroI knew this would happen22:03
jcastrojono:22:03
jcastro"When I first heard the term "Metal as a Service", I admit that I immediately envisioned Ubuntu's Jono Bacon distributing heavy metal free software songs. MaaS is, in fact, a new server orchestration solution cooked up by Canonical."22:03
balloons^^22:03
jbichawow, I can get Jono in my Ubuntu?!22:05
jbichasudo apt-get install jono22:05
jcastrohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwypN3YI4m022:05
jbichaE: Unable to locate package jono22:05
jcastroW: Package jono is of low quality22:06
popeyjcastro: i had the same thought22:06
popeynearly tweeted it earlier in fact22:06
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