[00:30] <marcoceppi> jcastro: Dear god man!
[05:39] <jono> wow, today was a record
[05:39] <jono> I just realized I have been working non-stop for 16 hours
[05:39] <jono> I started at 6am today
[05:40] <jono> been a heck of a fun day too :-)
[05:42] <jono> and with that, shower
[05:42] <jono> back soon
[06:01] <nigelb> jono: One of days huh? :)
[06:01] <jono> nigelb, :-)
[06:01] <jono> night all!
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[07:04] <dholbach> jussi, popey: happy birthday! :)
[07:32] <bkerensa> jussi, popey: happy birthday!!
[07:40] <czajkowski> morning
[08:05] <jalcine> Happy birthday jussi and popey :D
[08:21] <nigelb> bkerensa: Isn't it your birthday as well?
[08:35] <dholbach> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing-qt-fix/+merge/100746
[08:35] <dholbach> nigelb, it was some days ago
[08:36] <nigelb> dholbach: Ah. I should login to FB more often.
[08:36] <dholbach> :)
[08:38] <nigelb> dholbach: also, lol. I saw the crack on community team comment much much later :P
[08:38] <nigelb> Hilarious
[08:38] <dholbach> nigelb, eh? which one was that?
[08:39] <nigelb> dholbach: this one http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/03/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t13:37
[08:39] <nigelb> :)
[08:40] <dholbach> haha
[09:24] <dholbach> james_w, who do you think could MC if we were to play at UDS again? :)
[10:02] <jussi> dholbach: bkerensa: thanks!
[10:03] <nigelb> jussi: Birthday boy!
[10:03] <nigelb> Happy Birthday
[10:03] <jussi> nigelb: :)
[10:03] <nigelb> popey is busy thrashing Microsoft :P
[10:03] <jussi> bah, how do I turn off the password request everytime unity turns off my screen. annoying!
[10:03] <jussi> nigelb: ooh, thats new
[10:04] <nigelb> jussi: zomg. You're using Unity?
[10:04] <jussi> nigelb: testing...
[10:04] <dholbach> mhall119, is the quickly template / singlet stuff in precise the latest and greatest?
[10:04] <dholbach> mhall119, I'm having some problems install / uninstalling
[10:04] <dholbach> especially when your project name contains '-' it seems to get a bit confused
[10:05] <sagaci> jussi, turn off screen lock
[10:05] <jussi> sagaci: how? :)
[10:06] <sagaci> power cog > system settings >  brightness and lock > untick "require my password..."
[10:07] <nigelb> I usually like that feature.
[10:11] <sagaci> I turn off all suspend/hibernate and lock features
[10:13] <popey> happy birthday jussi :D
[10:13] <popey> clearly the best day of the year for birthdays
[10:13] <dholbach> dpm, was there a singlet article in progress somewhere? :)
[10:14] <sagaci> much prefer system settings, rather than separated options in System > Preferences/Administration
[10:16] <dholbach> mhall119, did you mean to get singlet 0.2.2 into precise? lp:~mhall119/singlet/precise-package looks like it -let me know if you want it sponsored
[10:16] <dpm> dholbach, there's a lens tutorial draft in d.u.c. It uses the quickly lens template package, which I think it's based on singlet
[10:16] <dholbach> yep
[10:16] <dholbach> ok, let me go check it out
[10:16] <dholbach> I'm clearly doing something wrong :-P
[10:37] <nigelb> popey: I think you're biased about the best day for birthday thing :P
[10:37] <nigelb> also.
[10:37] <nigelb> Happy birthday popey!
[10:44] <nothingspecial> right, I think I'm back for good and angies gone :D
[11:46] <dpm> ok, leaving early to start Easter Holidays, see you all on Tuesday!
[11:57] <dholbach> Radium, Sulfur: got any other elements lined up? :-)
[11:59] <sagaci> haha
[11:59] <dholbach> brb
[12:17] <mhall119> dholbach: yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-singlet/+bug/955317
[12:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 955317 in unity-singlet "Update unity-singlet to version 0.2.2" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:17] <mhall119> dholbach: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly-lens-templates/+bug/955330 for the quickly lens template
[12:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 955330 in quickly-lens-templates "Update quickly-unity-lens-template to version 0.0.3" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[12:18] <dholbach> aha!
[12:19] <dholbach> you should have subscribed ubuntu-sponsors
[12:19] <dholbach> let me take a look at it now
[12:20] <mhall119> ubuntu-sponsors?  The FFe instructions just said to subscribe ubuntu-release
[12:20] <dholbach> ah yes, that's just for the freeze exception
[12:22] <dholbach> in any case I'll take care of it now
[12:23] <dholbach> mhall119, for singlet are you OK with me applying this diff? http://paste.ubuntu.com/914448/
[12:24] <dholbach> it would automatically close the bug on upload, also would -0ubuntu1 be the correct versioning for a release which has never been in Debian yet
[12:24] <dholbach> also debian-policy is up to 3.9.3
[12:24] <dholbach> (these are all minor points)
[12:26] <dholbach> mhall119, is lp:~mhall119/unity-quickly-templates/precise-package up to date?
[12:27] <mhall119> dholbach: it is now
[12:28] <mhall119> dholbach: that diff looks fine
[12:28] <dholbach> ok, I'l apply something similar for the templates
[12:28] <dholbach> do a test build
[12:28] <dholbach> and then use those 2 packages after a dog walk :)
[12:29] <mhall119> cool, thanks dholbach
[12:29] <dholbach> de nada
[12:32] <dholbach> mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/914458/ would be the other diff - in case you want to apply in your branch
[12:32] <dholbach> mhall119, uploaded
[12:36] <mhall119> dholbach: applied those patches to the source tree
[12:36] <dholbach> cool
[12:39] <jussi> Happy Birthday popey!
[12:41] <mhall119> it's popey's birthday?
[12:41] <mhall119> happy birthday popey!
[12:44] <jussi> popey: yes, it is the best day for a birthday
[12:48] <mhall119> dang, it's jussi's birthday too, and I missed bkerensa's birtday yesterday
[12:48] <mhall119> happy birthday jussi, happy birthday bkerensa
[12:49]  * mhall119 blames lack of Facebook
[12:50] <nigelb> jcastro: After seeing juju in action -- pretty cool stuff!
[12:59] <jussi> mhall119: thanks :)
[14:19] <daker> hey jcastro bug 973037
[14:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 973037 in ubuntu-cloud-portal "AMI locator "name" field should use version numbers rather than codenames" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973037
[14:21] <jcastro> daker, it's a good idea, we shouldn't even use the animal name IMO
[14:29] <dholbach> mhall119, do you have a bit of time to talk me through lenses stuff? :)
[14:30] <mhall119> dholbach: give me 10 minutes?
[14:30] <dholbach> sure
[14:30]  * dholbach puts on the hold music
[14:41] <jcastro> heya balloons!!
[14:41] <balloons> heya :-)
[14:41] <dholbach> mhall119, I think I figured it out
[14:41] <jcastro> balloons, ok so for maas
[14:41]  * balloons doesn't know est from edt from utc
[14:42] <jcastro> balloons, do you have a URL for the stuff they want people banging on?
[14:42] <dholbach> mhall119, I'll play around some more and maybe have you have a look when I'm done to say which starts are done in a stupid way :)
[14:42] <dholbach> balloons, some my merge proposal?
[14:42] <balloons> Daniel, yes I did thank you
[14:42] <dholbach> cool - let me know if that works for you or if some parts are confusing or unclear :)
[14:43] <balloons> jcastro, umm.. yes.. the "stuff" is in checkbox
[14:43] <balloons> but there's also a page
[14:43] <balloons> let me dig it out
[14:43] <jcastro> <3
[14:43] <dholbach> I can't believe it, I wrote a lens! (I think I just had to restart unity 500 times)
[14:43] <dholbach> but let me put some more work into it, before I show it :)
[14:47] <balloons> jcastro, hmm.. well http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/docs/juju-quick-start.rst http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/HACKING.txt
[14:47] <balloons> better ask Diogo if there was another link I'm not remembering
[14:49] <mhall119> dholbach: ready
[14:50] <mhall119> dholbach: um, why did you have to restart Unity so much?
[14:50] <dholbach> mhall119, don't I have to       sudo quickly install; quickly run         every time I want to test it?
[14:50]  * dholbach prepares to change workflow
[14:51] <mhall119> dholbach: no, quickly install is only needed the first time (or if you add/remove categories to your lens)
[14:51] <dholbach> aha!
[14:51] <dholbach> that's good to know
[14:51] <mhall119> if you're just working on your search method, just "quickly run" is enough
[14:51]  * mhall119 apologizes to dholbach's graphics card for all the unity restarts
[14:52] <dholbach> perfect :)
[14:52] <dholbach> thanks mhall119
[14:59] <jono> balloons, can you update the weekly testing doc as soon as possible
[14:59] <jono> respond to the comments in there
[14:59] <jono> mhall119, dholbach, jcastro all set for the call?
[14:59]  * balloons didn't see any new comments
[14:59] <jcastro> nod
[14:59] <dholbach> yep
[14:59] <jono> balloons, I added a bunch last night and this morning
[15:00] <balloons> ohh.. lookey there.. wonder why I didn't get the mail
[15:00] <balloons> responding now :-)
[15:00] <mhall119> jono: ready
[15:01] <jono> mhall119, dholbach, jcastro https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=
[15:57] <jcastro> balloons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MAAS
[15:57] <jcastro> I've started
[15:58] <nigelb> MAAS sounds great.
[15:58] <balloons> jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS
[15:58] <jcastro> oh
[15:58] <jcastro> ok
[15:58]  * jcastro deletes
[15:58] <balloons> :-)
[15:59] <balloons> it's sort of different on the layout
[15:59] <balloons> click a link, and the page continues
[16:01] <jcastro> works for me
[16:01] <jcastro> ok so we're missing the "How to test" parts right?
[16:02] <czajkowski> jcastro: might be worth asking mrvell or the other folks on lp if that documetaion is being done atm or waiting on stuff
[16:03] <jcastro> on it
[16:04] <balloons> jcastro, http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases
[16:05] <jcastro> balloons: ok and MAAS test cases are in there right?
[16:06] <jcastro> and they do need the PPA for that?
[16:06] <balloons> yes they are in there
[16:06] <balloons> under MAAS
[16:06] <balloons> and some juju
[16:06] <balloons> under juju
[16:07] <balloons> ohh and there's some for maas installation
[16:07] <jcastro> ok so where in the process does the user do these tests
[16:07] <jcastro> is it like "read these docs, install, configure, then run the tests" or is it "do this one part, test. Do the next part, test."
[16:07] <balloons> so there labled as such 'Juju tests', 'MAAS server tests', 'MAAS installation tests'
[16:08] <balloons> right so.. we need to have a sane workflow
[16:08] <balloons> so.. read the docs..
[16:08] <balloons> install the ppa
[16:08] <balloons> run the MAAS installation tests, MAAS server tests, juju tests
[16:09] <balloons> i mean.. I guess overview of what maas is
[16:09] <balloons> then how to install
[16:09] <balloons> and how to run
[16:09] <balloons> and while your installing, I guess you follow along with the tests to test the different installs
[16:11] <jcastro> k, I'm on #ubuntu-server asking
[16:45] <dholbach> alright my friends - I'll see you tomorrow
[16:45] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day :)
[16:48] <balloons> dholbach . . .
[17:05] <daker> using 11.04 with unity-2D is a real pain
[17:09] <balloons> jcastro, are you ok with changing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS to have a list of the links.. I feel like a summary page if you will is missing
[17:09] <balloons> I guess i'm just crazy
[17:10] <jcastro> balloons: mrevell told me the wiki page is what they are pointing people to, so I guess we can ignore the generated docs for now
[17:10] <jcastro> balloons: I think what we should do is add a summary thing up top
[17:10] <balloons> Diogo said it was ok to point to the docs
[17:10] <jcastro> yeah but the problem is we can't fix the docs
[17:10] <balloons> maybe we can create your community page and point it to that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS page
[17:11] <jcastro> like, I fixed 2 things on there
[17:11] <balloons> and include the docs as reference
[17:11] <balloons> and your blog writeup
[17:11] <balloons> make sense?
[17:11] <balloons> and mention the checkbox tests there also
[17:11] <jcastro> yeah, so I was thinking a header for the MAAS section
[17:11] <jcastro> and then have a section for the tests
[17:11] <jcastro> (I updated my blog to point to the wiki pages FYI)
[17:11] <balloons> k
[17:11] <pleia2> ooh, I can talk about MaaS now
[17:12] <balloons> I saw you on hackernews last night btw
[17:12] <balloons> hehe
[17:12] <balloons> I was tempted to mod you down, but...
[17:12] <balloons> lololololol
[17:13] <jcastro> balloons: give me 2 minutes and I'll show you what I mean
[17:13] <balloons> I'll let you have at it
[17:13] <balloons> just let me know if and where you need me to add content
[17:14] <jcastro> ok refresh
[17:14] <jcastro> I made a MAASHeader page
[17:14] <jcastro> and then stole the header from the main page
[17:14] <jcastro> we just need to customize MAASHeader to point to all the crap we need
[17:14] <jcastro> so like, create a "Testing MAAS" one
[17:14] <jcastro> and then just create a page for it
[17:14] <jcastro> with instructions
[17:16] <balloons> yep, makes sense
[17:16] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing
[17:17] <jcastro> there you go dude
[17:21] <jcastro> balloons: ok so just step by step it on that page
[18:03] <balloons> jcastro, lol.. I didn't realize you were a coolcat and owned your name: http://www.jorgecastro.org/
[18:11] <snap-l> That's probably the most organization jcastro has. ;)
[18:11] <snap-l> (the .org)
[18:20] <balloons> jcastro, ok, I'll fill that page in
[18:21] <balloons> jcastro, I like the header.. just what i was thining
[18:26] <balloons> snap-l, ohh, snap!
[18:30] <daker> nigelb, http://pastebin.com/VYKCYYty
[18:30] <daker> opps :/
[19:23] <jcastro> balloons: ok so I am confused
[19:23] <balloons> ok, shoot
[19:23] <jcastro> "At the moment, the checkbox tests are only available via checkbox-qt, and not via checkbox-cli. This means you can't run them from the command line for now"
[19:23] <jcastro> so you run that on your desktop and point to the server or what?
[19:23] <balloons> I wrote everything quickly.. so :-)
[19:23] <jcastro> don't tell me the MAAS server needs to be running X
[19:23] <balloons> lol.. no it doesn't
[19:23] <balloons> but ideally you would run the tests on the maas server via checkbox-cli I'd guess
[19:24] <balloons> I think checkbox-cli might still use the gtk test format
[19:24] <balloons> I'm not sure
[19:24] <balloons> at any rate.. yea.. you need to run the tests on a desktop with x and qt
[19:24] <jcastro> ok
[19:24] <jcastro> I will try it
[19:24] <balloons> which I suppose is ok.. seeing as you would likely be ssh'd in
[19:24] <jcastro> nod
[19:24] <balloons> and it's probably easier that way
[19:24] <balloons> read the test, do it on the server
[19:25] <balloons> reporting would be a pain on the server without the browser also
[19:25] <balloons> try putting an edit on what i said to say that better
[19:25] <balloons> or just don't even mention it
[19:25] <balloons> and say run the tests on your desktop, execute on the server
[19:42] <jcastro> mhall119: hey
[19:42] <jcastro> speaking of pv
[19:42] <jcastro> it needs an optional libunity thing
[19:43] <jcastro> so that any sysadmin can pipe to pv and have their script progress on the unity launcher
[19:43] <jcastro> you know that would rock.
[19:46] <MrChrisDruif> Sir jono; How is that achievement thingy getting along? Latest I've seen about it that you had about 2 juju achievements (was on youtube)
[19:50] <mhall119> jcastro: I'm still not sold on making a CLI app display progress in the Launcher
[19:51] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: check his blog
[19:51] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; I don't do that very often (I don't have it bookmarked ;-) )
[19:51] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: http://www.jonobacon.org/blog/
[19:52] <mhall119> he had an update on accomplishments just today
[19:52] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe, perfect timing then ^_^
[20:41] <jcastro> balloons: is the PPA built?
[20:41] <jcastro> I think I am going to put the PPA instructions on the MAAS page itself
[20:42] <jcastro> and then screenie some MAAS-specific stuff
[20:43] <balloons> yes ppa is built deployed.. I installed it and ran it to triple check
[20:43] <balloons> sure.. not a problem
[20:43] <balloons> let me know if you need anything
[20:45] <jcastro> jono: ok this is about ready, did you want to blog Nick's stuff or you want me to do it?
[20:45] <jcastro> for the MAAS testing?
[20:45] <jono> jcastro, go ahead
[20:47] <jcastro> balloons: hah suckfest, I have to uncheck all these tests if I only care about servers
[20:47] <jcastro> no big deal though
[20:48] <balloons> rightclick
[20:48] <balloons> deselect all
[20:48] <jcastro> nice!
[20:48] <jcastro> ok I will put that in the instructions
[20:48] <balloons> it also prompts about ubuntu friendly
[20:48] <balloons> :-(
[20:48] <balloons> I fixed all that, but I'm failing to package properly or checkbox hates me, etc
[20:48] <jcastro> yeah
[20:48] <balloons> whatever it is.. it's like that for now
[20:49] <balloons> it's running checkbox-qt from the archie
[20:49] <balloons> and not my modded version
[20:49] <balloons> but it's not a huge deal.. my mods are pretty minor
[20:50] <jcastro> what's moin for images again?
[20:54] <balloons> attachment
[20:54] <balloons> you can just look at my page
[20:54] <balloons> edit it
[20:54] <balloons> and copy the syntax
[20:54] <jcastro> got it
[20:55] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing
[20:55] <jcastro> yeah baby, how's that?
[20:55] <jcastro> ah dude
[20:55] <jcastro> the instructions in checkbox point to the lp docs, not the wiki docs
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; {{ }} ?
[20:59] <jcastro> got it, ta
[21:17] <balloons> jcastro, all set?
[21:18] <jcastro> yeah, writing my blog
[21:18] <balloons> jcastro, yea.. page looks a bit nicer
[21:18] <balloons> thanks
[21:18] <balloons> ohh you mean.. the checkbox tests point to lpo
[21:18] <balloons> yea.. gotcha
[21:22] <jcastro> yeah we want to point to the wiki pages
[21:22] <jcastro> since we're updating those already
[21:30] <jcastro> balloons: blogging!
[21:31]  * balloons checks jorgecastro.org
[21:31] <jcastro> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/04/kicking-the-tires-on-maas/
[21:32] <balloons> awesome
[21:35] <jbicha> jcastro: saw your post just in time to undo my Gmail send
[21:35] <jcastro> jbicha: about?
[21:35] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/rtkp3/got_some_spare_servers_laying_around_help_us_test/
[21:35] <jcastro> can I get some upboats folks?
[21:36] <jbicha> I was emailing Jim, a local self-employed sysadmin who really loved your juju talk last week at POSSCON
[21:36] <jcastro> he sent me this awesome email, but I haven't had time to respond
[21:36] <jbicha> had to add one more link to the email
[21:37] <jbicha> I saw him again today, he's just really disappointed that more people didn't attend the workshop
[21:37] <jbicha> maybe part of that is that juju is so new people don't know what it is
[21:38] <jcastro> it's ok, it's hard to explain to people
[21:38] <jcastro> it's just a grindstone of having to keep explaining it over and over, at some point people will get it
[21:38] <jbicha> and I didn't know what devops meant until last week
[21:40] <balloons> jcastro, jbicha you see they are hungry for the community team ama
[22:03] <jcastro> hah
[22:03] <jcastro> I knew this would happen
[22:03] <jcastro> jono:
[22:03] <jcastro> "When I first heard the term "Metal as a Service", I admit that I immediately envisioned Ubuntu's Jono Bacon distributing heavy metal free software songs. MaaS is, in fact, a new server orchestration solution cooked up by Canonical."
[22:03] <balloons> ^^
[22:05] <jbicha> wow, I can get Jono in my Ubuntu?!
[22:05] <jbicha> sudo apt-get install jono
[22:05] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwypN3YI4m0
[22:05] <jbicha> E: Unable to locate package jono
[22:06] <jcastro> W: Package jono is of low quality
[22:06] <popey> jcastro: i had the same thought
[22:06] <popey> nearly tweeted it earlier in fact