[00:30] jcastro: Dear god man! [05:39] wow, today was a record [05:39] I just realized I have been working non-stop for 16 hours [05:39] I started at 6am today [05:40] been a heck of a fun day too :-) [05:42] and with that, shower [05:42] back soon [06:01] jono: One of days huh? :) [06:01] nigelb, :-) [06:01] night all! [07:03] good morning [07:04] jussi, popey: happy birthday! :) [07:32] jussi, popey: happy birthday!! [07:40] morning [08:05] Happy birthday jussi and popey :D [08:21] bkerensa: Isn't it your birthday as well? [08:35] balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/checkbox/checkbox-app-testing-qt-fix/+merge/100746 [08:35] nigelb, it was some days ago [08:36] dholbach: Ah. I should login to FB more often. [08:36] :) [08:38] dholbach: also, lol. I saw the crack on community team comment much much later :P [08:38] Hilarious [08:38] nigelb, eh? which one was that? [08:39] dholbach: this one http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/03/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t13:37 [08:39] :) [08:40] haha [09:24] james_w, who do you think could MC if we were to play at UDS again? :) [10:02] dholbach: bkerensa: thanks! [10:03] jussi: Birthday boy! [10:03] Happy Birthday [10:03] nigelb: :) [10:03] popey is busy thrashing Microsoft :P [10:03] bah, how do I turn off the password request everytime unity turns off my screen. annoying! [10:03] nigelb: ooh, thats new [10:04] jussi: zomg. You're using Unity? [10:04] nigelb: testing... [10:04] mhall119, is the quickly template / singlet stuff in precise the latest and greatest? [10:04] mhall119, I'm having some problems install / uninstalling [10:04] especially when your project name contains '-' it seems to get a bit confused [10:05] jussi, turn off screen lock [10:05] sagaci: how? :) [10:06] power cog > system settings > brightness and lock > untick "require my password..." [10:07] I usually like that feature. [10:11] I turn off all suspend/hibernate and lock features [10:13] happy birthday jussi :D [10:13] clearly the best day of the year for birthdays [10:13] dpm, was there a singlet article in progress somewhere? :) [10:14] much prefer system settings, rather than separated options in System > Preferences/Administration [10:16] mhall119, did you mean to get singlet 0.2.2 into precise? lp:~mhall119/singlet/precise-package looks like it -let me know if you want it sponsored [10:16] dholbach, there's a lens tutorial draft in d.u.c. It uses the quickly lens template package, which I think it's based on singlet [10:16] yep [10:16] ok, let me go check it out [10:16] I'm clearly doing something wrong :-P [10:37] popey: I think you're biased about the best day for birthday thing :P [10:37] also. [10:37] Happy birthday popey! === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [10:44] right, I think I'm back for good and angies gone :D [11:46] ok, leaving early to start Easter Holidays, see you all on Tuesday! [11:57] Radium, Sulfur: got any other elements lined up? :-) [11:59] haha [11:59] brb === ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici [12:17] dholbach: yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-singlet/+bug/955317 [12:17] Launchpad bug 955317 in unity-singlet "Update unity-singlet to version 0.2.2" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:17] dholbach: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly-lens-templates/+bug/955330 for the quickly lens template [12:17] Launchpad bug 955330 in quickly-lens-templates "Update quickly-unity-lens-template to version 0.0.3" [Undecided,Incomplete] [12:18] aha! [12:19] you should have subscribed ubuntu-sponsors [12:19] let me take a look at it now [12:20] ubuntu-sponsors? The FFe instructions just said to subscribe ubuntu-release [12:20] ah yes, that's just for the freeze exception [12:22] in any case I'll take care of it now [12:23] mhall119, for singlet are you OK with me applying this diff? http://paste.ubuntu.com/914448/ [12:24] it would automatically close the bug on upload, also would -0ubuntu1 be the correct versioning for a release which has never been in Debian yet [12:24] also debian-policy is up to 3.9.3 [12:24] (these are all minor points) [12:26] mhall119, is lp:~mhall119/unity-quickly-templates/precise-package up to date? [12:27] dholbach: it is now [12:28] dholbach: that diff looks fine [12:28] ok, I'l apply something similar for the templates [12:28] do a test build [12:28] and then use those 2 packages after a dog walk :) [12:29] cool, thanks dholbach [12:29] de nada [12:32] mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/914458/ would be the other diff - in case you want to apply in your branch [12:32] mhall119, uploaded [12:36] dholbach: applied those patches to the source tree [12:36] cool === imbrandon is now known as bholtsclaw [12:39] Happy Birthday popey! [12:41] it's popey's birthday? [12:41] happy birthday popey! [12:44] popey: yes, it is the best day for a birthday [12:48] dang, it's jussi's birthday too, and I missed bkerensa's birtday yesterday [12:48] happy birthday jussi, happy birthday bkerensa [12:49] * mhall119 blames lack of Facebook [12:50] jcastro: After seeing juju in action -- pretty cool stuff! [12:59] mhall119: thanks :) [14:19] hey jcastro bug 973037 [14:19] Launchpad bug 973037 in ubuntu-cloud-portal "AMI locator "name" field should use version numbers rather than codenames" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973037 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:21] daker, it's a good idea, we shouldn't even use the animal name IMO [14:29] mhall119, do you have a bit of time to talk me through lenses stuff? :) [14:30] dholbach: give me 10 minutes? [14:30] sure [14:30] * dholbach puts on the hold music [14:41] heya balloons!! [14:41] heya :-) [14:41] mhall119, I think I figured it out [14:41] balloons, ok so for maas [14:41] * balloons doesn't know est from edt from utc [14:42] balloons, do you have a URL for the stuff they want people banging on? [14:42] mhall119, I'll play around some more and maybe have you have a look when I'm done to say which starts are done in a stupid way :) [14:42] balloons, some my merge proposal? [14:42] Daniel, yes I did thank you [14:42] cool - let me know if that works for you or if some parts are confusing or unclear :) [14:43] jcastro, umm.. yes.. the "stuff" is in checkbox [14:43] but there's also a page [14:43] let me dig it out [14:43] <3 [14:43] I can't believe it, I wrote a lens! (I think I just had to restart unity 500 times) [14:43] but let me put some more work into it, before I show it :) [14:47] jcastro, hmm.. well http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/docs/juju-quick-start.rst http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/maas/trunk/view/head:/HACKING.txt [14:47] better ask Diogo if there was another link I'm not remembering [14:49] dholbach: ready [14:50] dholbach: um, why did you have to restart Unity so much? [14:50] mhall119, don't I have to sudo quickly install; quickly run every time I want to test it? [14:50] * dholbach prepares to change workflow [14:51] dholbach: no, quickly install is only needed the first time (or if you add/remove categories to your lens) [14:51] aha! [14:51] that's good to know [14:51] if you're just working on your search method, just "quickly run" is enough [14:51] * mhall119 apologizes to dholbach's graphics card for all the unity restarts [14:52] perfect :) [14:52] thanks mhall119 [14:59] balloons, can you update the weekly testing doc as soon as possible [14:59] respond to the comments in there [14:59] mhall119, dholbach, jcastro all set for the call? [14:59] * balloons didn't see any new comments [14:59] nod [14:59] yep [14:59] balloons, I added a bunch last night and this morning [15:00] ohh.. lookey there.. wonder why I didn't get the mail [15:00] responding now :-) [15:00] jono: ready [15:01] mhall119, dholbach, jcastro https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid= [15:57] balloons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MAAS [15:57] I've started [15:58] MAAS sounds great. [15:58] jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS [15:58] oh [15:58] ok [15:58] * jcastro deletes [15:58] :-) [15:59] it's sort of different on the layout [15:59] click a link, and the page continues [16:01] works for me [16:01] ok so we're missing the "How to test" parts right? [16:02] jcastro: might be worth asking mrvell or the other folks on lp if that documetaion is being done atm or waiting on stuff [16:03] on it [16:04] jcastro, http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases [16:05] balloons: ok and MAAS test cases are in there right? [16:06] and they do need the PPA for that? [16:06] yes they are in there [16:06] under MAAS [16:06] and some juju [16:06] under juju [16:07] ohh and there's some for maas installation [16:07] ok so where in the process does the user do these tests [16:07] is it like "read these docs, install, configure, then run the tests" or is it "do this one part, test. Do the next part, test." [16:07] so there labled as such 'Juju tests', 'MAAS server tests', 'MAAS installation tests' [16:08] right so.. we need to have a sane workflow [16:08] so.. read the docs.. [16:08] install the ppa [16:08] run the MAAS installation tests, MAAS server tests, juju tests [16:09] i mean.. I guess overview of what maas is [16:09] then how to install [16:09] and how to run [16:09] and while your installing, I guess you follow along with the tests to test the different installs [16:11] k, I'm on #ubuntu-server asking [16:45] alright my friends - I'll see you tomorrow [16:45] have a great rest of your day :) [16:48] dholbach . . . [17:05] using 11.04 with unity-2D is a real pain [17:09] jcastro, are you ok with changing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS to have a list of the links.. I feel like a summary page if you will is missing [17:09] I guess i'm just crazy [17:10] balloons: mrevell told me the wiki page is what they are pointing people to, so I guess we can ignore the generated docs for now [17:10] balloons: I think what we should do is add a summary thing up top [17:10] Diogo said it was ok to point to the docs [17:10] yeah but the problem is we can't fix the docs [17:10] maybe we can create your community page and point it to that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS page [17:11] like, I fixed 2 things on there [17:11] and include the docs as reference [17:11] and your blog writeup [17:11] make sense? [17:11] and mention the checkbox tests there also [17:11] yeah, so I was thinking a header for the MAAS section [17:11] and then have a section for the tests [17:11] (I updated my blog to point to the wiki pages FYI) [17:11] k [17:11] ooh, I can talk about MaaS now [17:12] I saw you on hackernews last night btw [17:12] hehe [17:12] I was tempted to mod you down, but... [17:12] lololololol [17:13] balloons: give me 2 minutes and I'll show you what I mean [17:13] I'll let you have at it [17:13] just let me know if and where you need me to add content [17:14] ok refresh [17:14] I made a MAASHeader page [17:14] and then stole the header from the main page [17:14] we just need to customize MAASHeader to point to all the crap we need [17:14] so like, create a "Testing MAAS" one [17:14] and then just create a page for it [17:14] with instructions [17:16] yep, makes sense [17:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing [17:17] there you go dude [17:21] balloons: ok so just step by step it on that page [18:03] jcastro, lol.. I didn't realize you were a coolcat and owned your name: http://www.jorgecastro.org/ [18:11] That's probably the most organization jcastro has. ;) [18:11] (the .org) [18:20] jcastro, ok, I'll fill that page in [18:21] jcastro, I like the header.. just what i was thining [18:26] snap-l, ohh, snap! [18:30] nigelb, http://pastebin.com/VYKCYYty [18:30] opps :/ === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [19:23] balloons: ok so I am confused [19:23] ok, shoot [19:23] "At the moment, the checkbox tests are only available via checkbox-qt, and not via checkbox-cli. This means you can't run them from the command line for now" [19:23] so you run that on your desktop and point to the server or what? [19:23] I wrote everything quickly.. so :-) [19:23] don't tell me the MAAS server needs to be running X [19:23] lol.. no it doesn't [19:23] but ideally you would run the tests on the maas server via checkbox-cli I'd guess [19:24] I think checkbox-cli might still use the gtk test format [19:24] I'm not sure [19:24] at any rate.. yea.. you need to run the tests on a desktop with x and qt [19:24] ok [19:24] I will try it [19:24] which I suppose is ok.. seeing as you would likely be ssh'd in [19:24] nod [19:24] and it's probably easier that way [19:24] read the test, do it on the server [19:25] reporting would be a pain on the server without the browser also [19:25] try putting an edit on what i said to say that better [19:25] or just don't even mention it [19:25] and say run the tests on your desktop, execute on the server [19:42] mhall119: hey [19:42] speaking of pv [19:42] it needs an optional libunity thing [19:43] so that any sysadmin can pipe to pv and have their script progress on the unity launcher [19:43] you know that would rock. [19:46] Sir jono; How is that achievement thingy getting along? Latest I've seen about it that you had about 2 juju achievements (was on youtube) [19:50] jcastro: I'm still not sold on making a CLI app display progress in the Launcher [19:51] MrChrisDruif: check his blog [19:51] mhall119; I don't do that very often (I don't have it bookmarked ;-) ) [19:51] MrChrisDruif: http://www.jonobacon.org/blog/ [19:52] he had an update on accomplishments just today [19:52] Ghehe, perfect timing then ^_^ [20:41] balloons: is the PPA built? [20:41] I think I am going to put the PPA instructions on the MAAS page itself [20:42] and then screenie some MAAS-specific stuff [20:43] yes ppa is built deployed.. I installed it and ran it to triple check [20:43] sure.. not a problem [20:43] let me know if you need anything [20:45] jono: ok this is about ready, did you want to blog Nick's stuff or you want me to do it? [20:45] for the MAAS testing? [20:45] jcastro, go ahead [20:47] balloons: hah suckfest, I have to uncheck all these tests if I only care about servers [20:47] no big deal though [20:48] rightclick [20:48] deselect all [20:48] nice! [20:48] ok I will put that in the instructions [20:48] it also prompts about ubuntu friendly [20:48] :-( [20:48] I fixed all that, but I'm failing to package properly or checkbox hates me, etc [20:48] yeah [20:48] whatever it is.. it's like that for now [20:49] it's running checkbox-qt from the archie [20:49] and not my modded version [20:49] but it's not a huge deal.. my mods are pretty minor [20:50] what's moin for images again? [20:54] attachment [20:54] you can just look at my page [20:54] edit it [20:54] and copy the syntax [20:54] got it [20:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Testing [20:55] yeah baby, how's that? [20:55] ah dude [20:55] the instructions in checkbox point to the lp docs, not the wiki docs [20:58] jcastro; {{ }} ? [20:59] got it, ta [21:17] jcastro, all set? [21:18] yeah, writing my blog [21:18] jcastro, yea.. page looks a bit nicer [21:18] thanks [21:18] ohh you mean.. the checkbox tests point to lpo [21:18] yea.. gotcha [21:22] yeah we want to point to the wiki pages [21:22] since we're updating those already [21:30] balloons: blogging! [21:31] * balloons checks jorgecastro.org [21:31] http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/04/kicking-the-tires-on-maas/ [21:32] awesome [21:35] jcastro: saw your post just in time to undo my Gmail send [21:35] jbicha: about? [21:35] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/rtkp3/got_some_spare_servers_laying_around_help_us_test/ [21:35] can I get some upboats folks? [21:36] I was emailing Jim, a local self-employed sysadmin who really loved your juju talk last week at POSSCON [21:36] he sent me this awesome email, but I haven't had time to respond [21:36] had to add one more link to the email [21:37] I saw him again today, he's just really disappointed that more people didn't attend the workshop [21:37] maybe part of that is that juju is so new people don't know what it is [21:38] it's ok, it's hard to explain to people [21:38] it's just a grindstone of having to keep explaining it over and over, at some point people will get it [21:38] and I didn't know what devops meant until last week [21:40] jcastro, jbicha you see they are hungry for the community team ama [22:03] hah [22:03] I knew this would happen [22:03] jono: [22:03] "When I first heard the term "Metal as a Service", I admit that I immediately envisioned Ubuntu's Jono Bacon distributing heavy metal free software songs. MaaS is, in fact, a new server orchestration solution cooked up by Canonical." [22:03] ^^ [22:05] wow, I can get Jono in my Ubuntu?! [22:05] sudo apt-get install jono [22:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwypN3YI4m0 [22:05] E: Unable to locate package jono [22:06] W: Package jono is of low quality [22:06] jcastro: i had the same thought [22:06] nearly tweeted it earlier in fact === greg_g is now known as greg-g