[01:16] <c_smith> bkerensa, happy birthday! :D
[02:54] <bkerensa> c_smith: thanks
[02:54] <bkerensa> FYI Ubuntu Oregon ZNC Server is being upgraded to Ubuntu Server 12.04 Beta 2 (Instability may result but unlikely based my experience so far)
[02:57] <c_smith> bkerensa, then should I login to the Freenode server until the upgrade is done?
[02:58] <bkerensa> c_smith: nah its currently happening right now
[02:58] <bkerensa> with any lucky it should occur transparently
[02:58] <bkerensa> :)
[02:58] <bkerensa> I will restart it during a non-peak hour at some point tomorrow perhaps 4am
[02:58] <c_smith> cool, then I take it the server will need to be restarted? or is that something that usually only needs to happen on PCs?
[02:59] <bkerensa> c_smith: it will require a reboot ^
[02:59] <bkerensa> but I do my reboots usually between 2am - 4am PST
[03:00] <c_smith> cool, not likely going to be on tonight at that time, but come tomorrow, I will have an essay to do, and gotta do it before 8AM the next day, I hate essays....
[03:01] <c_smith> and it's a college argument essay.
[03:02] <cy1> I AM A GREAT AND EXTREMELY MODEST PERSON WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD PULL THAT STICK OUT YOUR ASS AND STOP BANNING ME FROM CAMPUS GROUNDS YOU ADMINISTRATIVE PRICK
[03:03]  * cy1 clearly is going places
[03:03] <c_smith> wtf?
[03:03] <cy1> It's my college entrance essay, to wile them into accepting moi.
[03:03] <c_smith> cy1, not even sure what you are talking about.
[03:03] <c_smith> oh. I see.
[03:04] <cy1> college... argument essay? uh...
[03:04] <bkerensa> I am going to be without power almost all afternoon tomorrow
[03:04] <bkerensa> :(
[03:04] <c_smith> that sucks,
[03:04] <cy1> :/
[03:04] <bkerensa> have a electrician swapping out every receptacle in our place
[03:04] <bkerensa> and the entire break box
[03:04] <cy1> Wow, what brought that on?
[03:05] <bkerensa> so... yeah Pac Power even has to turn off our pole power
[03:05] <bkerensa> cy1: uhh I would call it having a landlord who has not done his duties over the years to maintain one of his properties
[03:05] <bkerensa> and our power happened to nuke out the other day
[03:05] <cy1> bkerensa: obviously all your fault somehow
[03:06] <bkerensa> electrician came out and said lots of things were not up to code and had to be brought up to code ASAP to prevent a Arc from occuring in the walls and our place from burning to the ground
[03:06] <bkerensa> :D
[03:06] <bkerensa> my landlord then tried to play off the electricians comments as a option suggestion for improvements
[03:06] <bkerensa> :D
[03:06] <bkerensa> optional*
[03:06] <cy1> c.C
[03:07] <cy1> see that's why the concept of land ownership is fundamentally absurd.
[03:07] <bkerensa> I told my landlord that the electrician said the place is not in compliance with code and could be condemned and shortly thereafter he authorized the electrician to carry out a full overhaul
[03:07] <cy1> because it's only jerks who get to own any of it!
[03:07] <bkerensa> :D
[03:07] <bkerensa> landlord then informed me he was doing this because "we are such good people"
[03:07] <cy1> And why did my server accidentally the everything D:<
[03:07] <bkerensa> epic fail
[03:07] <bkerensa> :P
[03:08] <cy1> Man I freaking hate Linux memory management.
[03:08] <cy1> I just have no luck w/ it.
[03:09] <cy1> Either my programs die because my arbitrary memory limit was too low, since there's no way to measure that stuff
[03:10] <bkerensa> cy1: how much memory do you have?
[03:10] <cy1> or else I run a program that just reads files into a buffer giving up the buffer for garbage collection every time, and it consumes all memory and $computer freezes.
[03:10] <cy1> I dunno like 2 gigabytes.
[03:11] <cy1> Yeah a hard reset... feh.
[03:11] <cy1> At least I've got it mostly headless to start up.
[03:11] <bkerensa> cy1: amd64 or i386?
[03:12] <cy1> bkerAMD
[03:12] <cy1> bkerensa: AMD
[03:12] <bkerensa> I have 6GB of DDR3 on amd64 and never really run into issues memory or CPU wise
[03:12] <cy1> I don't have 6GB of memory slots.
[03:12] <bkerensa> I see
[03:13] <cy1> Besides, more memory doesn't do anything if the kernel doesn't stop programs from consuming memory until it goes into a spinloop and dies.
[03:13] <cy1> They'll just eat that memory too.
[03:14] <bkerensa> cy1: well I do crunching which is pretty memory and CPU intensive and memory management seems solid enough to manage that without lagging any other applications on my system
[03:14] <cy1> The fact that I can kill almost any Linux machine just by displaying the PNG of Doom and it's been that way for years, just irritates me to death.
[03:14] <bkerensa> usually I'm crunching like 4 or five DC projects simultaneous
[03:15] <cy1> It's more in the lack of limits on memory acquisition then repeated memory use...
[03:16]  * c_smith will go off to get something to eat since he forgot to eat dinner
[03:17] <cy1> I mean here's the program: http://pastebin.com/Pr3jsrXG
[03:17] <cy1> Clearly a very devious and unexpected application, not straightforward at all.
[03:21] <bkerensa> c_smith:  I'm nuking znc real quick
[03:21] <bkerensa> :D
[03:26] <bkerensa> :D
[04:08] <bkerensa> =o
[05:54] <bkerensa> hello mechanizedmedic
[05:54] <mechanizedmedic> hi
[05:55] <mechanizedmedic> ...ive never used irc before so i thought i'd give it a shot. :)
[05:57] <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: excellent
[05:57] <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: have you been to any of our events?
[05:57] <bkerensa> :D
[05:59] <nathwill> g'night all
[05:59] <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: nope. i probably should have.
[06:00] <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: We have a event coming up this month for the 12.04 release
[06:00] <bkerensa> more info is here http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/
[06:03] <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: oh cool! do you do any workshops?
[06:03] <bkerensa> mechanizedmedic: Not yet but we are working with FreeGeek to bring some workshops there this summer
[06:07] <mechanizedmedic> bkerensa: i've been really eager to learn to do more with linux. i've been "converted" for a few years but haven't taken the time to learn some of the things i've wanted.
[21:54] <nathwill> man it's quiet today
[21:54] <nathwill> hey people... coffee bar is thataway
[23:08] <blkperl> here's some noise .... java-- java-- java--
[23:16] <slangasek> pour me a cup of that
[23:29] <sbeattie> indeed
[23:37] <nathwill> on top of putting everyone in fear of their jobs, the coffee bar was closed today. boo
[23:37] <nathwill> just the black and oily for me