[04:15] <nonau> This has been bugging me for a bit.  In Ubuntu Studio the windows won't maximize when I click on the title bar.  I've tested it in Xubuntu beta and it worked just fine for me.
[04:25] <nonau> I can repeat this behavior on three computers, all running beta 2 with or without updates.
[04:27] <holstein> hmmm... wonder what controls that
[04:27] <holstein> could be something that was done to be more gnome2 like
[04:31] <nonau> There is an option under Settings Manager>Window Manager>Advanced that is for the doubleclick action on the task bar.  By default it is set to maximize.
[04:31] <holstein> not sure what that looks like in the build scripts or whatever though
[04:32] <nonau> In any case, all of the options there are broken for the GUI settings.
[04:33] <holstein> yeah.. they might have been edited for some reason to be more gnome2 like
[04:33] <holstein> im not certain
[04:34] <len-nb> So far as I know we copied xubuntu settings pretty much. You will likely find our current settings are either xfce default or xubuntu 11.10
[04:36] <holstein> i feel like its being implied that the settings are "greyed out", or not configurable
[04:36] <nonau> No, the setting is configurable.  It just happens to do nothing when configured.
[04:36] <len-nb> I can't reboot right now as I am uploading to bzr.
[04:37] <len-nb> in xubuntu 11.10 (what I am using now) hide window minimizes... but maximise is default.
[04:38] <holstein> doing nothing when configured means its not configurable to me
[04:39] <len-nb> Ja, I will also look at it when I can reboot. I'll try it on todays live iso
[04:42] <len-nb> There is a "nothing" configuration. maybe something is switched (label to action).
[04:42] <len-nb> nonau are you using english?
[04:49] <nonau> Yes.  The language is English.
[04:54] <len-nb> OK so it is not a translation problem.
[04:55] <len-nb> Have you tried other options? Do any of them work? I have to admit I haven't tested that part of things.
[04:55] <nonau> Nope.  None of the options did anything when I switched through them.
[05:04] <nonau> I can test this again, later.  For now I need to reboot into another OS to get some work done.
[05:11] <len-nb> ScottL, I don't know if you are up or not... but here is stuff for the plymouth text theme: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-look
[05:35] <len-live> Ok, rebooted to US beta2. Checked out the above problem (double click on title bar). I found that I could set all types of actions (shade, hide, max, fill and nothing) and they would work for me.
[05:39] <len-live> I did find that getting my double click timing was not so easy. Increasing double click time helped. Note that this is netbook with a touchpad not a mouse. The sensitivity of the touch pad affects this too.
[08:33] <astraljava> holstein: He's gone now, but for me the double-clicking does maximize windows.
[08:34] <astraljava> holstein: However, I turned compositing off. Could that mess up things?
[08:35] <astraljava> len_: Oh I see you tested it too. I'm quite sure there was some other weird error having to do with that.
[10:44] <astraljava> Ok, there's a new version of lowlatency kernel in the archives, please help testing it, thanks!
[10:45] <astraljava> Thanks, Luke, again!
[10:48] <astraljava> Hmm... well it's not there _yet_, but got accepted, anyhoo.
[10:49] <knome> heh
[13:57] <astraljava> Ok, now this is f***ed up. I have installed this session that I'm writing this from, from US dvd. I have this in dpkg.log(s): http://paste.ubuntu.com/914560/, and _yet_ I have this regarding one of our most important meta-packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/914561/
[13:58] <astraljava> I'm ' ' close to fainting.
[13:58] <astraljava> Somebody please explain before I go banging my head against a brick wall.
[14:00] <astraljava> ...also, bug #973373. *facepalm*
[14:03] <astraljava> Well, I believe that bug is easier to explain, it's just missing the python-changesettings dependency.
[14:03] <astraljava> I'll fix it right away.
[14:07] <len_> scott-work I am on my way out. Just wanted to make sure you saw this: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-look
[14:10] <astraljava> micahg: I know you're really busy, but since you know ubuntustudio-meta better than any other in-the-know-of-Standards-Version, is it okay to bump it to 3.9.3 to fix the lintian warning? I know I am supposed to read about it, but... personal life gets in the way.
[14:44] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: I'd appreciate some packaging help here. up-to-date precise pbuilder build run for ubuntustudio-meta gives me: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: Recommends field of package ubuntustudio-graphics: unknown substitution variable ${germinate:Recommends}
[14:46] <astraljava> Failed to find more info about it on google. I will head on to -motu now, but thought you guys know more about this particular package, hence asked here first.
[15:04] <astraljava> So yeah, -audio-plugins gets installed, but not -audio. This'll be fun...
[16:41] <micahg> astraljava: idr what the standards version bumps offhand
[16:41] <micahg> astraljava: as for the meta, that's because the seed is all depends
[16:44] <astraljava> micahg: Right. Laney said I could most likely ignore the germinate warnings. I suppose the standards can too, it doesn't seem to break anything so far. But I'll read up on it for the Q cycle. Would that do?
[16:50] <micahg> astraljava: sure (I still have chromium at 3.8.3 since I don't have time to fix it up, but that's a much more complicated case)
[16:52] <astraljava> micahg: I bet.
[19:05] <astraljava> Why is it that whenever I try to get something done, there are network issues?! *grrr*
[19:16] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: Whenever you have time, please check bug #973373, the attached debdiff should fix the issue.
[19:16] <astraljava> I don't know why I overlooked this in the past, it's too obvious. Oh well...
[19:16] <astraljava> Live and learn.
[19:41] <scott-work> astraljava: heh, that is probably my fault from when i made the transitional package
[19:43] <astraljava> scott-work: Right, I dunno. But whatever, it'll be fixed now. :)
[19:44]  * astraljava is slightly annoyed that the revision on bzr/LP isn't matching the package version. :p
[22:51] <len_> astraljava, holstein, ScottL: the problem nonau reported yesterday (?) with the double clicking on the window title bar not working.... I was able to reproduce it.
[22:53] <len_> This time on my desktop with a real mouse. It seems to be a mouse problem rather than a window manager problem.
[22:54] <len_> setting the double click time from 250 to 300 or 350 made the trouble go away.
[22:56] <len_> This is odd as I can double click other things (opening folders for example) with no problem. (or less problems anyway)
[22:57] <len_> Still it may be an idea to increase the double click time by default to 300.
[22:58] <len_> If anyone talks to nonau again please ask them to change the mouse setting and try again.