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meerkatsi see. babble , I assume there is aplymouth manager in the repo...00:00
babbleI don't think so, but if you look at the url I pasted, there's a PPA00:00
starnhow do i see my PC's model from xubuntu? aka with out having to move the machine to look at it.. i only know how to do that in win..00:20
meerkatsubuntu has a system info package, that may be valid for xubuntu too, have you checked the repo starn ?00:23
starnmeerkats: i don't even know what to look for.00:23
meerkatsstarn, type sysinfo into synaptic and give it a go00:24
babbleSysinfo runs in Xubuntu (I use it)00:24
GridCubei never could make plymouth work properly when changing it00:25
GridCubei ende with a "UBUNTU" in text mode the only time i tried :P00:25
meerkatsthat happens to me too GridCube00:25
meerkatsbabble, here has a ling with a plymouth manager00:25
meerkatslink*00:25
meerkatssysinfo recognizes xubuntu as ubuntu... is that normal?00:26
babblehttp://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html00:27
starnmeerkats: i am liking sysinfo but it's doesn't appear to give me the info i am looking for.00:28
babblestarn: what do you need?00:28
starnmodel numbers... i know dxdaig provides it. but i am not in windows and do not intend to get on it atm00:28
starnunder motherboard is says device 2a6f  guess when i have time easiest way to see if it supports SLI is by opening her up.. don't wanna install windows right now.00:31
babbledepending on what dxdiag reports, there are likely several linux near-equivalents. try lspci or dmidecode00:32
starni think dx saw it as the correct one all i remember was m 950 and a letter00:32
starnquad core intel :\ and 512mb nvidia dedicated card 8600.00:32
babblehere's partial output of dmidecode:00:33
babblehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/913898/00:33
babbleis this the sort of system model info you want?00:33
starnsadly no :(  i already knew it was HP.. and is a Desktop..00:34
babblehave a look at the full output of dmidecode on your machine.00:34
starnit looks a lot like this one http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=3644723&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c01319344  but is faster and intel based.00:34
babbleI'm truncating heavily because you said you wanted to get your model number without looking at the back of your machine.00:34
starnwell right now i am remoting it with my tablet. via teamviewer.00:35
starnbeen to lazy to go to the physical machine to look at it.00:35
babblehere's the full dmidecode on my machine:00:36
babblehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/913900/00:36
babbleit's reporting memory, battery, all sorts of things.00:36
starnhow do i get dmidecode?00:36
babbleopen a terminal and do:00:36
babbledmidecode00:36
babbleit outputs quite a bit of info, so you may want to redirect it to a file instead:00:36
babbledmidecode > output.txt00:37
starnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/913902/  is my stuff... i am looking through it right now.00:39
starnbabble: hey found it!!! thanks babble ! it's m9250f00:39
babbleit largely depends on just what, exactly, you're looking for00:39
starnbabble it's under System information   Product Name:00:40
babbleThat's among the FIRST things I pasted for you, which you said you weren't looking for.00:40
babblein any event, so long as you've got the output you want, good.00:41
starnoh i didn't see the model number i what you pasted babble i am sorry00:41
babbleas long as you've got what you were looking for, good.00:41
starnbabble: sorry if i am a pain to asssit i've had a little to many to be doing to much stuff in a computer other than multimedia00:41
babbledrunk tech support makes the baby jesus cry.00:42
e2xistzTrying out Xubuntu, how to fix screen tearing when dragging windows? To such tearing when using Ubuntu.01:14
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CellTechAnyway to update flash player for FF through terminal?04:56
holsteinCellTech: im using chrome, since i think that version of flash will be maintained04:57
CellTechAhh ok04:57
holsteinthere is no way to get upgrades for flash now, since its not supported any more04:57
holsteinsudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade your packages, assuming flash is one you have installed04:57
holsteinthough, there are likely no upgrades for it04:58
Unit193Flash will get updates/security updates for 11.05:00
holsteinOH yeah... that last version is supported05:01
holsteinjust no more after that, correct Unit193 ?05:01
Unit193That's how I read, 11 for 5(?) years.05:01
Unit193Outdated by then I'm sure, so....05:02
holsteinyeah.. its relevant for a few05:02
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meerkatsxubuntu recognizes extrenal HDD, but when I click on them, file manager closes09:42
meerkatsam I missing packages?09:44
meerkatsRight click, mount unit doesnt make any difference09:45
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cloackedhi beata110:44
noudHi11:30
noudI have a question11:30
noudI just reinstalled xubuntu11:30
cloackedgo on11:30
noudBut now some composed keys like é, à and â seem to appear if I type in ' and e... etc.11:31
noudI think they are called composed keys11:31
baizonwrong keyboard layout11:31
noudHow do I disable them?11:31
noudI picked USA standard with dead keys.11:31
noudAt least I think I picked them11:32
cloackednoud, does the "e" appear with an accent only by pressing the "e"?11:32
noudNo11:32
noudBut if I press: ' e11:32
noudit does11:32
cloackedI have a similar problem: I need those accents, but I cannot type any, keyboard set to spanish 150 keys general11:33
cloackednoud: thats what im looking for: ' and e to get an accented e, and you get that with US keyboard dead keys?11:33
noudYes, I think that I picked the US keyboard dead keys11:34
cloackedhave the developers mixed keyboard layouts (bad naming)?11:34
cloackedletme try11:34
cloackedinternational altgr noud ?11:36
noudDon't know11:36
noudBut I think I found a solution11:36
noudThis seems to work: sudo setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alts_toggle us,pk11:36
cloackeddidnt you use keyboard layout selection?11:36
noudSo there is something wrong with my keyboard layout11:36
cloackednoud: if im using spanish, should that be sudo setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alts_toggle es ?11:38
cloackedus = united states, but pk sounds like pakistan to me11:39
noudAh, it might11:39
noudlet me try11:39
noudI think es is spanish11:39
noudBut I'm not sure if the system saves this setting11:40
cloackedit is, if we are following CCTLD11:40
noudDo you know where in the system I can change the keyboard layout?11:40
cloackedI just executed that, no difference11:40
cloackedyes, blue icon, settings, settings manager11:41
cloackedblue icon is on top left11:41
cloackedare you there noud ?11:42
noudOh, yes11:42
noudBut that one does not seem to work for me11:42
noudI want to change it as super user, somewhere in an /etc file11:42
cloackedare you in keyboard - layout?11:42
cloackedwait for babble then11:43
cloackedif you reach a positive outcome, let me know...11:43
noudOkay, but I'm trying to change the keyboard layout to US, not to spanish11:44
cloackedthe process should be the same for every language, shouldnt it noud ?11:44
noudI think so11:45
cloackedok, ttyl11:45
noudOkay, did the following: sudo loadkeys us && sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup start11:53
noudSeems to work for me.11:53
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david_any suggestions of things to install for a newbie on a fresh install? I know there some kind of codec pack that are good to install12:49
baizondavid_: install a player :)12:50
baizonim using smplayer for videos12:50
baizonfor music clementine :)12:50
baizonjust check it out in the software center :)12:54
david_is vlc a demanding software?12:56
david_do I need to install flash?12:57
baizonwith codecs you can only mean streamer0.10-plugins-* (ugly and bad)12:57
baizonyes12:58
baizongstreamer0.10-plugins-*12:58
david_what do you mean by ugly and bad?12:58
baizoncodecs that arent open source12:58
david_ah:-)12:59
kripzhow can i rebind my mouse buttons?13:04
GblueInstalling Xubuntu :d13:10
GblueIs Xubuntu fast by a Intel x86 system with 2 GB Ram ?13:10
drcNot faster than a speeding bullet....13:10
baizonGblue: yes13:11
david_I have a 1.6ghz with 2gb RAM and I'm not impressed13:11
GblueOkay :d13:11
GblueHmm... But should it work good?13:12
baizonyes it will13:12
GblueOkay, good to hear, because previously i had Windows XP Media Center edition 2005 and my PC won't boot, but with Kubuntu it will boot but it's not so fast, and by Ubuntu it will boot but it blocks when booting...13:13
GblueSo i think XUbuntu is faster =d13:13
baizonkubuntu is for fast pc :D13:14
GblueOkay13:14
baizonxubuntu is 10x faster then kubuntu for lowend hardware :D13:14
mongyI can't contribute as I have an i7 and 8gb ram.  I would turn off compositing though if you wanna 'tweak' anything13:14
baizoni got a dualcore 1.6GHz13:14
GblueI have Pentium D or something, it's a Dell Dimension 915013:15
GblueNo PS/2 ports xd Great design (!)13:17
drcI have a 2.16 GHz Core Duo, with 2 gig RAM...runs the 64 bit version of 12.04b2 fast enough for me for anything I want to do.13:17
david_how do I turn off compositing? What does it do?13:18
Gbluedrc; i have installed the 32 bit version...13:18
Gblueso i think that will go fast too13:18
drcGblue: Just saying that as light as Xubuntu is, even the 64 bit doesn't eat that many resources13:18
drcdavid_: Settings>Settings Manager>Window Manager Tweaks>Compositor....It is <said> to make things pretty...I have my doubts13:20
GblueOh akay, thx drc13:21
GblueInstallation completed, thx guys for helping, i'm going to REBOOT :d13:22
kripzmy logitech mouse has custom bindins by default provided by xubuntu, how can i check that these are?13:27
k_szeWhat's a good graphical sftp client in Xubuntu?13:48
baizonfilezilla for me :)13:48
k_szeI'll try that.13:48
k_szelol14:08
k_szeFileZilla keeps crashing.14:08
k_szeI can't even select a directory on the sftp server.14:08
babbleif you want a gui client for SFTP, would mounting it and using Thunar work?14:09
k_szehow do I do that?14:09
babbleopen Gigolo14:09
babblein Gigolo, do Actions > Connect and make a new SSH connection, using your ssh server and login info14:10
k_szegot it, thanks.14:12
babbleif this works as you like, you can save it as a bookmarked server in Gigolo, as well14:12
babble(and autoconnect it, if you want, etc.)14:12
k_szeactually14:13
k_szestill doesn't really work.14:13
k_szeI'm connected in Gigolo, but I can't open Thunar and see the mount.14:13
babbledouble click the mounted volume in Gigolo and it'll open in Thunar14:14
k_szetried that.14:14
k_szenothing happens.14:14
babbleI'd guess it's a problem on the other end, if you're having trouble in filezilla and gvfs both14:14
k_szeDoes Gigolo have a log?14:16
babbleI think it's a gvfs log. let me check14:16
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xubuntu109hello...  install seems to be stuck15:43
xubuntu109my cd drive spun down15:43
xubuntu109suggestions?15:44
baizonat what point?15:44
xubuntu109installing the softwares15:45
xubuntu109expanding the image?15:45
xubuntu109I have used buntus before,  and this seems very slow .... is it typical?15:46
siavashserverhi15:46
baizonnot xubuntu15:47
baizonubuntu is slow for me15:47
xubuntu109mostly I have used ubuntu,  and it install quickly even off of a key drive...15:47
xubuntu109yes.  unity,  no one likes it15:47
baizoni like unity15:47
baizonubuntu is just slow for me15:47
xubuntu109your one in 10015:48
baizonwith compiz etc.15:48
baizon:)15:48
xubuntu109ooops,  drive spun again....15:48
xubuntu109I may be alright15:48
xubuntu109I am just less than half way there15:48
baizonso be patient :)15:48
xubuntu109ubuntu took less time than this,  when the drive spun down,  I wondered....15:49
xubuntu109yes15:49
xubuntu109need install program,  you can surf and IRC15:49
xubuntu109neat*15:49
xubuntu109decided on it after using it for a couple of weeks in a virtual machine for my work envoirnment15:50
ochosixubuntu109: i had the same problem a while ago, it took me 3 or 4 tries until ubiquity installed normally15:50
ochosi(i mean the installer getting stuck)15:50
xubuntu109wow,  okay...  native install?15:50
ochosiyup15:50
xubuntu109okay15:50
ochosibut this is still beta15:50
xubuntu109installed in a VM and it went quick15:51
ochosiat least if you're talking about 12.0415:51
xubuntu109no 11.1015:51
ochosiyeah, it doesn't seem to happen everytime15:51
ochosioh, ok :)15:51
siavashserverisnt 12.04 debian based?15:51
ochosithen i can't confirm it15:51
ochosisiavashserver: ?? did you fall for the april-fools joke?15:51
xubuntu109they all are debian based somehow15:51
siavashserverochosi, i hate this month >_>15:52
baizonsiavashserver: ubuntu is debian based15:52
xubuntu109exactly15:52
siavashserverit's debian based + bloat :D15:52
ochosiyes, but there was the april-fools joke that xubuntu will be based on debian directly15:52
xubuntu109there is one I checked out that is debian and another flavour is ubuntu15:52
baizonhehe15:52
xubuntu109bloat is a word thats going around.....15:52
xubuntu109when I first started with ubuntu people were saying they would never give up the command line15:53
xubuntu109editing config files is better15:53
baizoni dont like to play with configs anymore15:54
baizonim to old for this :D15:54
siavashserverhehe15:54
baizoni started with slackware15:54
xubuntu109I think some people have changed their opinion and some have not15:54
ochosibaizon: are you quoting lethal weapon?15:54
baizonno :D15:54
xubuntu109not that I am aware of....15:54
siavashserverxubuntu109, you should try archlinux if you like config files ^^15:54
* siavashserver fades into shadows15:54
xubuntu109nope15:54
xubuntu109did that with dos15:54
xubuntu109used to sell computers before windows 9515:55
baizoni mean at first you like to play around but there will come time that you dont want to config 10h to get it to work15:55
baizonyeah i love arch but the config thing is just baaad :D15:55
xubuntu109whats nice is you can get your hands messy under the hood if you have to15:55
baizonits perfect for people who like to play around15:55
siavashserverbaizon, i found it eaasier than gentoo ^^15:55
siavashserverbut yeah its a bit annoying15:55
baizonnever touchd gentoo15:55
baizoni had to compile the kernel with slackware15:56
baizondid it twice15:56
baizonthen i didnt understood the logic15:56
* siavashserver oh noes15:56
baizoncompile the kernel for 30 min15:56
baizoni just wanted to use the damn pc :D15:56
siavashserver:D15:57
baizonbut its just my opinion :)15:57
siavashserveryeah there is no point in compiling from source15:57
siavashserverjust a 5% speed increase and less memory usage15:57
siavashserverin best case15:57
baizonyep15:57
ochosisiavashserver: how about newer package versions?15:57
ochosie.g. if you wanted to test xfce4.10pre115:58
siavashserverochosi, im using archlinux, all of eye candies are available at testing and aur repos :D15:58
siavashserverno need to compile by my self :D15:58
ochosisiavashserver: yes, but aur is basically compiling from source (just without the manual build-dep stuff)16:00
siavashserveryes. all i need to do is makepkg -sci16:00
siavashserverpiece of cake ^^16:00
ochosiwell for compiling all i need to do is ./autogen.sh && make && sudo make install ;)16:00
siavashserveryours lengthier :D16:01
ochosithrow it in a script ;)16:01
siavashserver:D16:02
* siavashserver throws a bunch of config files to edit at ochosi16:03
ochosi:)16:03
siavashservernice chat, see you later guys!16:03
ochosicu16:03
rhin0have xubuntu client xubuntu server now and my standard way of setting up ssh (ssh-keygen then ssh-copy-id) .. when I then ssh into the server it keeps asking for the passphrase right after the ssh command (within bash) .. on ubuntu client I was asked ONCE for keyring password ... anyone?16:19
rhin0is frustrating16:19
rhin0its xubuntu 10.0416:19
HurgaHi there. I have problems with focus follows mouse, ie. the focus doesn't follow all the time. Did someone else notice that problem?16:23
rhin0 have xubuntu client xubuntu server now and my standard way of setting up ssh (ssh-keygen then ssh-copy-id) .. when I then ssh into the server it keeps asking for the passphrase right after the ssh command (within bash) .. on ubuntu client I was asked ONCE for keyring password ... anyone?16:26
rhin0I think I need "gnome keyring?"16:26
drcHurga: Maybe the "Delay before window receives focus:" need adjusting?16:26
HurgaIt's at minimum.16:27
drcThen that's probably not it :) (I always look for the simple things first...often saves lot's of time)16:28
Hurgasure, no problem :)16:28
rhin0someone said I need a key manager for xfce to stop it asking for the pass phrase every time I do ssh@hostname in bash16:29
rhin0that was the purpose of me setting up and copying ssh keys to the server16:29
Hurgadrc: Looks like it's fixed already. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832316:29
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.xfce.org: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (http://bugzilla.xfce.org/xml.cgi?id=8323)16:29
rhin0can anyone help me with this16:30
Hurgarhin0: hagon16:31
rhin0ok np thanks hurga16:31
rhin0its frustrating because everything works in ubuntu but there is a different setup on xubuntu - someone said it doesn't have a key manager setup which is the thing that from an ubuntu client when you first ssh it asks for password to unlock keyring (from a GUI box) -- and then never again - so you can smoothly ssh into your server without being bothered for the passphrase every single time16:32
rhin0I recall there was something you had to do but have made no note of it -- it's been a while since I had 2 xubuntu machines16:33
Hurgarhin0: There's a "session and startup" (or something, I'm having the German version here so i don't know what's it in engish) config item16:33
HurgaI just added there a task which calls "ssh-add"16:34
rhin0but in that ssh-key agent is ticked16:34
HurgaThat should prompt you for a window to enter your passphase ONCE (as soon you log in)16:34
rhin0ssh-add?16:34
HurgaThe agent stores the pass phrase, but ssh-add adds it.16:35
rhin0i feel semi enlightened16:35
rhin0will try it now and get back to you16:35
rhin0THATS IT16:35
rhin0:-d16:35
rhin0tytyty16:35
Hurganp :)16:35
HurgaBTW - gnome does that automatically and I think xfce should do it too.16:36
shoenignow how to have the keyring unlock upon login (without entering your password twice)?16:39
shoenigi've never been able to figure that one out16:39
rhin01its funny that gnome-keyring manager and start gnome applications is ticked on this xubuntu 10.04 but it still doesn't use the gnome keyring manager (ask for password once in ssh) ... I just don't want to have to type ssh-add every time I start up every day17:06
rhin01plenty people asking that17:06
rhin01will be right back in a minute17:07
rhin01if anyone was about to answer17:07
rhin0stuff is ok17:11
rhin010.04 is stable man17:11
rhin0been here before17:11
rhin0v pleased17:11
rhin0i may never move off 10.04 :)17:12
baizonyou have to :>17:13
rhin0baizon I don't think it'll be that bad after 2013 (was it) if you don't run anything new17:13
rhin0I mean - things will still operate -- hell theres people still running windows 98 for example17:14
rhin0im just sick of changing round tried everything17:14
baizonno one is using windows 98 anymore17:15
baizononly in companies and only if really needed17:15
rhin0trying to get huge mouse pointer working everywhere on 10.0417:15
baizoni got 1 PC with windows NT17:15
rhin0can't figure out why the large mouse pointer is only large when it goes over firefox (for example)17:17
rhin0i've set up large mouse pointer on theme -- and it is only large when drifting over firefox windows17:17
rhin0its an issue just lookin g @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146455617:19
rhin0fixed it17:34
baizon:)17:34
rhin0got two 24" monitors -- can't see mouse ptr maxed it17:35
* rhin0 has keyboard on laptop driving x2x to drive the monitors all very smooth/fast17:36
rhin0so I have like a headsup on my k/b17:36
rhin0because I find im developing a gui and I have to develop it bit by bit -- so 1/2 works on the laptop 1/2 on the server17:36
rhin0its taken me months to get total setup -- must have tried different one every weeek for a year17:37
rhin0some people are tinkerers17:38
rhin0bonnet up all the time17:38
rhin0or "hood" (US)17:38
SandJHello all.  I have a Xubuntu 11.10 + audio CD query.  I put in an audio CD and it won't play.  I have (eventually) found the application setting for multimedia audio and it is set by default to "exaile".  But exaile is not installed by default.  Is this a fault in the Xubuntu 11.10 build?17:41
baizonthe default music player is gmusicbrowser17:42
SandJI cannot find any way to get gmusicbrowser to read an audio CD.  I have tried 3 CDs.  For each you can see in the File Manager that they have WAV files but they were associated with "Parole" which cannot play WAV files - until I installed Exaile.17:49
baizonopen gmusicbrowser and then open and cd17:53
mongygive up after 3 hours installing direct to usb stick.  not just any old stick either.  (32 GB) copied, 1776.52 s, 18.3 MB/s, so why so slow installing :/17:55
baizonusb sticks are slow ^17:56
baizon:)17:56
mongyI even made it ext2 as to have no journal.  granted I was using encryption too.17:56
mongybaizon: not mine...17:56
SandJ@baizon: gmusicbrowser in Xubuntu 11.10 does not have an "open" option.  What function do you mean?17:57
baizonSandJ: sec17:58
MokuraThis is a kind of silly question, but I figure I might as well ask before I fire up the ol' laptop and mess around: is there a way to update Xubuntu to 12.04 b2 via the update manager or even an install disc?  Or would it necessitate an entirely new install at this point?17:59
baizonSandJ: so try to add the cd folder17:59
baizonMokura: yes it is, just launch update-manager -d18:00
MokuraOh hey, I'll give that a whirl.18:00
baizonand you will get a button with upgrade possibility to 12.0418:01
MokuraThanks.18:01
baizonnp18:01
baizonSandJ: or read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135313718:02
SandJI cannot get gmusicbrowser to see there is an audio CD in the drive.  It does not appear in the list of volumes.  It ignores /cdrom.   And that link offered no help.18:04
baizonindeed18:04
baizontry clementine, it has that option18:05
Mokura"some third party sources were disabled", I'm assuming that means the sources I added for things like WINE.18:06
baizonMokura: no, ppa will be disabled18:09
MokuraI see. :/18:09
baizonbut you can enable them after the upgrade18:09
MokuraOh, well that's not an issue at all then.18:09
SandJRather than install *another* music player, I installed Exaile which immediately worked.  I just don't understand why Xubuntu v11.10 defaults to Exaile - but does not install it - and installs gmusicbrowser - which does not work.18:11
baizonSandJ: because it is the default music player18:11
baizonmaybe it was a bug :)18:12
SandJThat'll do for me.  I'll go and log it on BugZilla.  :D  Thanks for your help.18:15
stangiHi, i have a little prob. with my laptop. i cant turn off my touchpad @ the pointing devices?! Someone can help my... and sry 4 my bad english -.-19:45
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martinphonehi beata120:19
mongycan't people idle more than 2 mins20:40
mongystangi:20:41
PiciTo be fair, its now an hour later.20:42
mongy:)20:46
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Elchzardphpsysinfo Doesn't want to display my distro - I'm running 10.04 LTS, for which lsb_release -a gives the same output as ordinary Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Any ideas?22:20
GridCubeElchzard, ¿?22:25
GridCubesorry i did not understand your problem22:26
mongymy vps won't add the needed bits for it to work :(  well it's cheap and does everything else I want.22:27

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