[00:00] i see. babble , I assume there is aplymouth manager in the repo... [00:00] I don't think so, but if you look at the url I pasted, there's a PPA [00:20] how do i see my PC's model from xubuntu? aka with out having to move the machine to look at it.. i only know how to do that in win.. [00:23] ubuntu has a system info package, that may be valid for xubuntu too, have you checked the repo starn ? [00:23] meerkats: i don't even know what to look for. [00:24] starn, type sysinfo into synaptic and give it a go [00:24] Sysinfo runs in Xubuntu (I use it) [00:25] i never could make plymouth work properly when changing it [00:25] i ende with a "UBUNTU" in text mode the only time i tried :P [00:25] that happens to me too GridCube [00:25] babble, here has a ling with a plymouth manager [00:25] link* [00:26] sysinfo recognizes xubuntu as ubuntu... is that normal? [00:27] http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/install-plymouth-manager-and-change.html [00:28] meerkats: i am liking sysinfo but it's doesn't appear to give me the info i am looking for. [00:28] starn: what do you need? [00:28] model numbers... i know dxdaig provides it. but i am not in windows and do not intend to get on it atm [00:31] under motherboard is says device 2a6f guess when i have time easiest way to see if it supports SLI is by opening her up.. don't wanna install windows right now. [00:32] depending on what dxdiag reports, there are likely several linux near-equivalents. try lspci or dmidecode [00:32] i think dx saw it as the correct one all i remember was m 950 and a letter [00:32] quad core intel :\ and 512mb nvidia dedicated card 8600. [00:33] here's partial output of dmidecode: [00:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/913898/ [00:33] is this the sort of system model info you want? [00:34] sadly no :( i already knew it was HP.. and is a Desktop.. [00:34] have a look at the full output of dmidecode on your machine. [00:34] it looks a lot like this one http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=3644723&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c01319344 but is faster and intel based. [00:34] I'm truncating heavily because you said you wanted to get your model number without looking at the back of your machine. [00:35] well right now i am remoting it with my tablet. via teamviewer. [00:35] been to lazy to go to the physical machine to look at it. [00:36] here's the full dmidecode on my machine: [00:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/913900/ [00:36] it's reporting memory, battery, all sorts of things. [00:36] how do i get dmidecode? [00:36] open a terminal and do: [00:36] dmidecode [00:36] it outputs quite a bit of info, so you may want to redirect it to a file instead: [00:37] dmidecode > output.txt [00:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/913902/ is my stuff... i am looking through it right now. [00:39] babble: hey found it!!! thanks babble ! it's m9250f [00:39] it largely depends on just what, exactly, you're looking for [00:40] babble it's under System information Product Name: [00:40] That's among the FIRST things I pasted for you, which you said you weren't looking for. [00:41] in any event, so long as you've got the output you want, good. [00:41] oh i didn't see the model number i what you pasted babble i am sorry [00:41] as long as you've got what you were looking for, good. [00:41] babble: sorry if i am a pain to asssit i've had a little to many to be doing to much stuff in a computer other than multimedia [00:42] drunk tech support makes the baby jesus cry. [01:14] Trying out Xubuntu, how to fix screen tearing when dragging windows? To such tearing when using Ubuntu. === oijoij is now known as m00se === Cygnus_X-1 is now known as arthurjohnson === arthurjohnson is now known as Cygnus_X-1 [04:56] Anyway to update flash player for FF through terminal? [04:57] CellTech: im using chrome, since i think that version of flash will be maintained [04:57] Ahh ok [04:57] there is no way to get upgrades for flash now, since its not supported any more [04:57] sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade your packages, assuming flash is one you have installed [04:58] though, there are likely no upgrades for it [05:00] Flash will get updates/security updates for 11. [05:01] OH yeah... that last version is supported [05:01] just no more after that, correct Unit193 ? [05:01] That's how I read, 11 for 5(?) years. [05:02] Outdated by then I'm sure, so.... [05:02] yeah.. its relevant for a few === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [09:42] xubuntu recognizes extrenal HDD, but when I click on them, file manager closes [09:44] am I missing packages? [09:45] Right click, mount unit doesnt make any difference === _istok is now known as istok === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [10:44] hi beata1 [11:30] Hi [11:30] I have a question [11:30] I just reinstalled xubuntu [11:30] go on [11:31] But now some composed keys like é, à and â seem to appear if I type in ' and e... etc. [11:31] I think they are called composed keys [11:31] wrong keyboard layout [11:31] How do I disable them? [11:31] I picked USA standard with dead keys. [11:32] At least I think I picked them [11:32] noud, does the "e" appear with an accent only by pressing the "e"? [11:32] No [11:32] But if I press: ' e [11:32] it does [11:33] I have a similar problem: I need those accents, but I cannot type any, keyboard set to spanish 150 keys general [11:33] noud: thats what im looking for: ' and e to get an accented e, and you get that with US keyboard dead keys? [11:34] Yes, I think that I picked the US keyboard dead keys [11:34] have the developers mixed keyboard layouts (bad naming)? [11:34] letme try [11:36] international altgr noud ? [11:36] Don't know [11:36] But I think I found a solution [11:36] This seems to work: sudo setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alts_toggle us,pk [11:36] didnt you use keyboard layout selection? [11:36] So there is something wrong with my keyboard layout [11:38] noud: if im using spanish, should that be sudo setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alts_toggle es ? [11:39] us = united states, but pk sounds like pakistan to me [11:39] Ah, it might [11:39] let me try [11:39] I think es is spanish [11:40] But I'm not sure if the system saves this setting [11:40] it is, if we are following CCTLD [11:40] Do you know where in the system I can change the keyboard layout? [11:40] I just executed that, no difference [11:41] yes, blue icon, settings, settings manager [11:41] blue icon is on top left [11:42] are you there noud ? [11:42] Oh, yes [11:42] But that one does not seem to work for me [11:42] I want to change it as super user, somewhere in an /etc file [11:42] are you in keyboard - layout? [11:43] wait for babble then [11:43] if you reach a positive outcome, let me know... [11:44] Okay, but I'm trying to change the keyboard layout to US, not to spanish [11:44] the process should be the same for every language, shouldnt it noud ? [11:45] I think so [11:45] ok, ttyl [11:53] Okay, did the following: sudo loadkeys us && sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup start [11:53] Seems to work for me. === ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici [12:49] any suggestions of things to install for a newbie on a fresh install? I know there some kind of codec pack that are good to install [12:50] david_: install a player :) [12:50] im using smplayer for videos [12:50] for music clementine :) [12:54] just check it out in the software center :) [12:56] is vlc a demanding software? [12:57] do I need to install flash? [12:57] with codecs you can only mean streamer0.10-plugins-* (ugly and bad) [12:58] yes [12:58] gstreamer0.10-plugins-* [12:58] what do you mean by ugly and bad? [12:58] codecs that arent open source [12:59] ah:-) [13:04] how can i rebind my mouse buttons? [13:10] Installing Xubuntu :d [13:10] Is Xubuntu fast by a Intel x86 system with 2 GB Ram ? [13:10] Not faster than a speeding bullet.... [13:11] Gblue: yes [13:11] I have a 1.6ghz with 2gb RAM and I'm not impressed [13:11] Okay :d [13:12] Hmm... But should it work good? [13:12] yes it will [13:13] Okay, good to hear, because previously i had Windows XP Media Center edition 2005 and my PC won't boot, but with Kubuntu it will boot but it's not so fast, and by Ubuntu it will boot but it blocks when booting... [13:13] So i think XUbuntu is faster =d [13:14] kubuntu is for fast pc :D [13:14] Okay [13:14] xubuntu is 10x faster then kubuntu for lowend hardware :D [13:14] I can't contribute as I have an i7 and 8gb ram. I would turn off compositing though if you wanna 'tweak' anything [13:14] i got a dualcore 1.6GHz [13:15] I have Pentium D or something, it's a Dell Dimension 9150 [13:17] No PS/2 ports xd Great design (!) [13:17] I have a 2.16 GHz Core Duo, with 2 gig RAM...runs the 64 bit version of 12.04b2 fast enough for me for anything I want to do. [13:18] how do I turn off compositing? What does it do? [13:18] drc; i have installed the 32 bit version... [13:18] so i think that will go fast too [13:18] Gblue: Just saying that as light as Xubuntu is, even the 64 bit doesn't eat that many resources [13:20] david_: Settings>Settings Manager>Window Manager Tweaks>Compositor....It is to make things pretty...I have my doubts [13:21] Oh akay, thx drc [13:22] Installation completed, thx guys for helping, i'm going to REBOOT :d [13:27] my logitech mouse has custom bindins by default provided by xubuntu, how can i check that these are? [13:48] What's a good graphical sftp client in Xubuntu? [13:48] filezilla for me :) [13:48] I'll try that. [14:08] lol [14:08] FileZilla keeps crashing. [14:08] I can't even select a directory on the sftp server. [14:09] if you want a gui client for SFTP, would mounting it and using Thunar work? [14:09] how do I do that? [14:09] open Gigolo [14:10] in Gigolo, do Actions > Connect and make a new SSH connection, using your ssh server and login info [14:12] got it, thanks. [14:12] if this works as you like, you can save it as a bookmarked server in Gigolo, as well [14:12] (and autoconnect it, if you want, etc.) [14:13] actually [14:13] still doesn't really work. [14:13] I'm connected in Gigolo, but I can't open Thunar and see the mount. [14:14] double click the mounted volume in Gigolo and it'll open in Thunar [14:14] tried that. [14:14] nothing happens. [14:14] I'd guess it's a problem on the other end, if you're having trouble in filezilla and gvfs both [14:16] Does Gigolo have a log? [14:16] I think it's a gvfs log. let me check === emma is now known as em [15:43] hello... install seems to be stuck [15:43] my cd drive spun down [15:44] suggestions? [15:44] at what point? [15:45] installing the softwares [15:45] expanding the image? [15:46] I have used buntus before, and this seems very slow .... is it typical? [15:46] hi [15:47] not xubuntu [15:47] ubuntu is slow for me [15:47] mostly I have used ubuntu, and it install quickly even off of a key drive... [15:47] yes. unity, no one likes it [15:47] i like unity [15:47] ubuntu is just slow for me [15:48] your one in 100 [15:48] with compiz etc. [15:48] :) [15:48] ooops, drive spun again.... [15:48] I may be alright [15:48] I am just less than half way there [15:48] so be patient :) [15:49] ubuntu took less time than this, when the drive spun down, I wondered.... [15:49] yes [15:49] need install program, you can surf and IRC [15:49] neat* [15:50] decided on it after using it for a couple of weeks in a virtual machine for my work envoirnment [15:50] xubuntu109: i had the same problem a while ago, it took me 3 or 4 tries until ubiquity installed normally [15:50] (i mean the installer getting stuck) [15:50] wow, okay... native install? [15:50] yup [15:50] okay [15:50] but this is still beta [15:51] installed in a VM and it went quick [15:51] at least if you're talking about 12.04 [15:51] no 11.10 [15:51] yeah, it doesn't seem to happen everytime [15:51] oh, ok :) [15:51] isnt 12.04 debian based? [15:51] then i can't confirm it [15:51] siavashserver: ?? did you fall for the april-fools joke? [15:51] they all are debian based somehow [15:52] ochosi, i hate this month >_> [15:52] siavashserver: ubuntu is debian based [15:52] exactly [15:52] it's debian based + bloat :D [15:52] yes, but there was the april-fools joke that xubuntu will be based on debian directly [15:52] there is one I checked out that is debian and another flavour is ubuntu [15:52] hehe [15:52] bloat is a word thats going around..... [15:53] when I first started with ubuntu people were saying they would never give up the command line [15:53] editing config files is better [15:54] i dont like to play with configs anymore [15:54] im to old for this :D [15:54] hehe [15:54] i started with slackware [15:54] I think some people have changed their opinion and some have not [15:54] baizon: are you quoting lethal weapon? [15:54] no :D [15:54] not that I am aware of.... [15:54] xubuntu109, you should try archlinux if you like config files ^^ [15:54] * siavashserver fades into shadows [15:54] nope [15:54] did that with dos [15:55] used to sell computers before windows 95 [15:55] i mean at first you like to play around but there will come time that you dont want to config 10h to get it to work [15:55] yeah i love arch but the config thing is just baaad :D [15:55] whats nice is you can get your hands messy under the hood if you have to [15:55] its perfect for people who like to play around [15:55] baizon, i found it eaasier than gentoo ^^ [15:55] but yeah its a bit annoying [15:55] never touchd gentoo [15:56] i had to compile the kernel with slackware [15:56] did it twice [15:56] then i didnt understood the logic [15:56] * siavashserver oh noes [15:56] compile the kernel for 30 min [15:56] i just wanted to use the damn pc :D [15:57] :D [15:57] but its just my opinion :) [15:57] yeah there is no point in compiling from source [15:57] just a 5% speed increase and less memory usage [15:57] in best case [15:57] yep [15:57] siavashserver: how about newer package versions? [15:58] e.g. if you wanted to test xfce4.10pre1 [15:58] ochosi, im using archlinux, all of eye candies are available at testing and aur repos :D [15:58] no need to compile by my self :D [16:00] siavashserver: yes, but aur is basically compiling from source (just without the manual build-dep stuff) [16:00] yes. all i need to do is makepkg -sci [16:00] piece of cake ^^ [16:00] well for compiling all i need to do is ./autogen.sh && make && sudo make install ;) [16:01] yours lengthier :D [16:01] throw it in a script ;) [16:02] :D [16:03] * siavashserver throws a bunch of config files to edit at ochosi [16:03] :) [16:03] nice chat, see you later guys! [16:03] cu [16:19] have xubuntu client xubuntu server now and my standard way of setting up ssh (ssh-keygen then ssh-copy-id) .. when I then ssh into the server it keeps asking for the passphrase right after the ssh command (within bash) .. on ubuntu client I was asked ONCE for keyring password ... anyone? [16:19] is frustrating [16:19] its xubuntu 10.04 [16:23] Hi there. I have problems with focus follows mouse, ie. the focus doesn't follow all the time. Did someone else notice that problem? [16:26] have xubuntu client xubuntu server now and my standard way of setting up ssh (ssh-keygen then ssh-copy-id) .. when I then ssh into the server it keeps asking for the passphrase right after the ssh command (within bash) .. on ubuntu client I was asked ONCE for keyring password ... anyone? [16:26] I think I need "gnome keyring?" [16:26] Hurga: Maybe the "Delay before window receives focus:" need adjusting? [16:27] It's at minimum. [16:28] Then that's probably not it :) (I always look for the simple things first...often saves lot's of time) [16:28] sure, no problem :) [16:29] someone said I need a key manager for xfce to stop it asking for the pass phrase every time I do ssh@hostname in bash [16:29] that was the purpose of me setting up and copying ssh keys to the server [16:29] drc: Looks like it's fixed already. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8323 [16:29] Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.xfce.org: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (http://bugzilla.xfce.org/xml.cgi?id=8323) [16:30] can anyone help me with this [16:31] rhin0: hagon [16:31] ok np thanks hurga [16:32] its frustrating because everything works in ubuntu but there is a different setup on xubuntu - someone said it doesn't have a key manager setup which is the thing that from an ubuntu client when you first ssh it asks for password to unlock keyring (from a GUI box) -- and then never again - so you can smoothly ssh into your server without being bothered for the passphrase every single time [16:33] I recall there was something you had to do but have made no note of it -- it's been a while since I had 2 xubuntu machines [16:33] rhin0: There's a "session and startup" (or something, I'm having the German version here so i don't know what's it in engish) config item [16:34] I just added there a task which calls "ssh-add" [16:34] but in that ssh-key agent is ticked [16:34] That should prompt you for a window to enter your passphase ONCE (as soon you log in) [16:34] ssh-add? [16:35] The agent stores the pass phrase, but ssh-add adds it. [16:35] i feel semi enlightened [16:35] will try it now and get back to you [16:35] THATS IT [16:35] :-d [16:35] tytyty [16:35] np :) [16:36] BTW - gnome does that automatically and I think xfce should do it too. [16:39] now how to have the keyring unlock upon login (without entering your password twice)? [16:39] i've never been able to figure that one out [17:06] its funny that gnome-keyring manager and start gnome applications is ticked on this xubuntu 10.04 but it still doesn't use the gnome keyring manager (ask for password once in ssh) ... I just don't want to have to type ssh-add every time I start up every day [17:06] plenty people asking that [17:07] will be right back in a minute [17:07] if anyone was about to answer [17:11] stuff is ok [17:11] 10.04 is stable man [17:11] been here before [17:11] v pleased [17:12] i may never move off 10.04 :) [17:13] you have to :> [17:13] baizon I don't think it'll be that bad after 2013 (was it) if you don't run anything new [17:14] I mean - things will still operate -- hell theres people still running windows 98 for example [17:14] im just sick of changing round tried everything [17:15] no one is using windows 98 anymore [17:15] only in companies and only if really needed [17:15] trying to get huge mouse pointer working everywhere on 10.04 [17:15] i got 1 PC with windows NT [17:17] can't figure out why the large mouse pointer is only large when it goes over firefox (for example) [17:17] i've set up large mouse pointer on theme -- and it is only large when drifting over firefox windows [17:19] its an issue just lookin g @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464556 [17:34] fixed it [17:34] :) [17:35] got two 24" monitors -- can't see mouse ptr maxed it [17:36] * rhin0 has keyboard on laptop driving x2x to drive the monitors all very smooth/fast [17:36] so I have like a headsup on my k/b [17:36] because I find im developing a gui and I have to develop it bit by bit -- so 1/2 works on the laptop 1/2 on the server [17:37] its taken me months to get total setup -- must have tried different one every weeek for a year [17:38] some people are tinkerers [17:38] bonnet up all the time [17:38] or "hood" (US) [17:41] Hello all. I have a Xubuntu 11.10 + audio CD query. I put in an audio CD and it won't play. I have (eventually) found the application setting for multimedia audio and it is set by default to "exaile". But exaile is not installed by default. Is this a fault in the Xubuntu 11.10 build? [17:42] the default music player is gmusicbrowser [17:49] I cannot find any way to get gmusicbrowser to read an audio CD. I have tried 3 CDs. For each you can see in the File Manager that they have WAV files but they were associated with "Parole" which cannot play WAV files - until I installed Exaile. [17:53] open gmusicbrowser and then open and cd [17:55] give up after 3 hours installing direct to usb stick. not just any old stick either. (32 GB) copied, 1776.52 s, 18.3 MB/s, so why so slow installing :/ [17:56] usb sticks are slow ^ [17:56] :) [17:56] I even made it ext2 as to have no journal. granted I was using encryption too. [17:56] baizon: not mine... [17:57] @baizon: gmusicbrowser in Xubuntu 11.10 does not have an "open" option. What function do you mean? [17:58] SandJ: sec [17:59] This is a kind of silly question, but I figure I might as well ask before I fire up the ol' laptop and mess around: is there a way to update Xubuntu to 12.04 b2 via the update manager or even an install disc? Or would it necessitate an entirely new install at this point? [17:59] SandJ: so try to add the cd folder [18:00] Mokura: yes it is, just launch update-manager -d [18:00] Oh hey, I'll give that a whirl. [18:01] and you will get a button with upgrade possibility to 12.04 [18:01] Thanks. [18:01] np [18:02] SandJ: or read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353137 [18:04] I cannot get gmusicbrowser to see there is an audio CD in the drive. It does not appear in the list of volumes. It ignores /cdrom. And that link offered no help. [18:04] indeed [18:05] try clementine, it has that option [18:06] "some third party sources were disabled", I'm assuming that means the sources I added for things like WINE. [18:09] Mokura: no, ppa will be disabled [18:09] I see. :/ [18:09] but you can enable them after the upgrade [18:09] Oh, well that's not an issue at all then. [18:11] Rather than install *another* music player, I installed Exaile which immediately worked. I just don't understand why Xubuntu v11.10 defaults to Exaile - but does not install it - and installs gmusicbrowser - which does not work. [18:11] SandJ: because it is the default music player [18:12] maybe it was a bug :) [18:15] That'll do for me. I'll go and log it on BugZilla. :D Thanks for your help. [19:45] Hi, i have a little prob. with my laptop. i cant turn off my touchpad @ the pointing devices?! Someone can help my... and sry 4 my bad english -.- === Elchzard_ is now known as Elchzard [20:19] hi beata1 [20:40] can't people idle more than 2 mins [20:41] stangi: [20:42] To be fair, its now an hour later. [20:46] :) === vins is now known as Guest36716 === Guest36716 is now known as v1Ns [22:20] phpsysinfo Doesn't want to display my distro - I'm running 10.04 LTS, for which lsb_release -a gives the same output as ordinary Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Any ideas? [22:25] Elchzard, ¿? [22:26] sorry i did not understand your problem [22:27] my vps won't add the needed bits for it to work :( well it's cheap and does everything else I want.