[00:00] atpa8a, maybe, but it should still work on the fakeraid [00:01] It's been hung on Setting Update "run_key" quite awhile now is that normal? [00:01] just a white cursur flashing [00:01] psusi: the partitioner only shows 'Configure iSCSI Volumes' and nothing else [00:01] that's the problem [00:02] if i cannot pick one of the existing LVs [00:02] but! [00:02] if i go into the shell and do lvs, i can see my volumes [00:03] i cannot pick one of the existing LVs" [00:03] atpa8a: I think because it's oopsing during part of the parted detect process [00:03] penguin42: that's what it looks like [00:04] is there a flag i can set and mount my volume on /root for the installer to skip the parted process? [00:04] it certainly shouldn't be OOPSing, but mdadm also shouldn't be trying to touch the fakeraid [00:05] atpa8a: Well I thought in the debian installer you can get to the point where it will give you a menu of each step fo the installer - it's painful but it lets you skip a step if you can get the equivalent [00:05] dmraid is supposed to handle that after the installer prompts you to activate detected ataraids... [00:05] OffGridOps, do a ctrl c on the command and then type sudo service lightdm restart [00:06] psusi: But looking at the oops it happens during parted and after the md raid has come up; so I'm assuming it's triggered by some detection that parted is doing [00:06] psusi: it doesn't [00:07] penguin42: even when i'm doing that step by step in "expert" mode, it doesn't let me to skip parted [00:08] atpa8a, did you get the prompt about ataraid asking if you want to activate? [00:11] yes [00:11] and i say 'yes' [00:11] what happens if you say no? [00:13] in the installer... the same, i don't have any volumes in parted [00:13] i can reboot and check if i get the oops [00:15] atpa8a: Well, if there are two options it's normally worth trying both :-) [00:15] well, there is currently a packaging but that prevents the server and alternate cds from working right when you say yes, because the dmraid drivers are missing [00:15] so... i should say no? [00:16] then what? activate it manually? [00:16] no... probably two bugs... the fakeraid missing drivers bug, and then at some later point something you are doing must be asking mdadm to activate anything it can and it tries to activate the fakeraid since it now supports intel as well, and there's a kernel bug causing it to OOPS [00:17] doesn't it mean that whatever answer i choose the problem will be the same?.. [00:17] yes.. you'll need to wait for the fakeraid missing drivers to be fixed [00:17] or stop using fakeraid ;) [00:17] yeah :P [00:17] I'd suggest that one if you don't need to dual boot with windows... fakeraid is bad mojo [00:18] psusi: Is there someone that oops should be pointed out to, or is the current state of it enough? [00:19] and i was hoping... "oh great! now i get emails from mdadm if my fakeraid fails!" [00:19] penguin42, it would be good if you could figure out how to reproduce it on an actual install with an upstream kernel [00:19] atpa8a, best just to use mdadm all together.. fakeraid's only advantage is it works with windows [00:19] psusi: It's difficult with atpa8a only getting it during the install [00:19] penguin42, indeed... [00:20] psusi: but it's a pretty complete oops he's captured [00:20] alright :) pvmove back and destroy fakeraid [00:20] can report in the morning :P [00:20] yeh, time for bed here - it's getting cold! [00:21] night! :) he's gone! [00:21] psusi: thanks! [00:21] * psusi looks for that line of code [00:22] if i destroy fakeraid, i won't get the problem :P [00:22] won't be of help :) [00:23] hrm... looks like the bug is the result of an attempt to update the external metadata while the array is flagged read only [00:23] I was wondering why when I tried using mdadm to activate a fakeraid array, it kept insisting that it be read-only [00:24] * psusi fires off an email to linux-raid mailing list [00:37] psusi: i guess i can keep (after destroy and a new install) the ataraid for a bit [00:38] or... are you saying that if i nuke the md0, i'll only have the dmraid and all be kosher? [00:43] that's the quickest thing i can test actually... [00:44] psusi: note, that the board is supermicro and cpu is xeon... not some cheapo system [00:44] Hi. I just installed 12.04 beta 2. Why does it ask to go through a partial upgrade when I start-up the Update Manager? [00:45] atpa8a, the md0 is neither here nor there afaik... it's the fakeraid that's the problem [00:45] doesn't make sense to nuke the md0, you mean? [00:50] atpa8a, unless md0 is the fakeraid, no [01:16] nah, md0 is that, md0 [01:16] md linux software raid1 [01:16] My laptop seems to me to be snappier after a kernel update. However, I can't stand it when the words up in the corner get mixed with the global menu . [01:33] heeey [01:33] it does look like dmraid bug [01:34] tried 11.10 again with the purpose of upgrading and hitting the same bug [01:34] and as i think about it... the previous installs were successful because i didn't have the ataraid configured [01:35] so it isn't precise specific it seems [01:36] (tho it does still seem installer specific) [01:37] goan confirm [01:37] pvmove back to md0, remove the ataraid array and see if that solves it [02:20] I've lost my window title bars and borders... google's not helpful. Fix? [02:21] (Precise but with Gnome desktop) [02:23] brb, going to see if the problem persists with Unity [02:25] Works fine with Unity. Hmm. [02:34] alt-tab doesn't work in Gnome either, but I see it works fine in Unity. [02:35] i have to use gnome classic (no effects) to get decent performance out of my radeon 7870 [02:35] 120fps in minecraft.. if i do that [02:35] 20fps when using unity2d.. 40fps with compiz [02:35] sucks [02:36] should've waited and got something nvidia based.. problem was i wanted the new 28nm generation, and nvidia only have the gtx680 atm [02:37] ATI Mobility Radeon HD4650 in this [02:38] I have to say, the open source driver in Precise works great. I couldn't get the proprietary driver to install previously, and on this version, I don't care. [02:39] this is a first-gen i7 laptop... pretty happy with it still, Ihave to say. [03:04] is there any way to make the notification on the launcher jump at u constantly until you click it? like how it would behave on a mac? [03:04] for example, say I get a message in empathy, I want it to keep bouncing [03:04] also I use the launcher with autohide, so basically I'd like notifications to be more noticable. [04:43] so how is beta 2 looking? [04:43] any show stoppers? [04:43] I have my secondary machine here, ready for some bleeding edge stuff.. I can take a little pain, but not a lot, beta 2 good for that? [04:50] i installed the alpha without even asking that [04:51] hello everyone [04:51] how could it be any worse than 11.10 ;) [05:01] well [05:01] update time then [05:01] let's try it out [06:07] how do i get java 6 for minecraft? [06:07] hello? [06:08] crud. [06:08] settle [06:08] or maybe.... [06:08] you needs wait [06:08] .....or not [06:09] what's the command to update ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 12.04 now? [06:09] jeremiah_ also, you probably want openjdk-jre6 [06:09] nathwill, it didn't work with minecraft.... [06:09] hrm. [06:10] you run java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar? [06:10] ?? [06:11] don't understand [06:12] you could also try oracle java... if neither of those is working, i'd suggest trying here. [06:12] http://askubuntu.com/questions/5558/how-can-i-install-minecraft#5565 [06:14] but with java 7- it crashes [06:14] i got nothing for you then [06:14] maybe check with the minecraft people. [06:15] whatever... [06:15] ? [06:17] * bkerensa dances [06:22] to fix java 7 crashing with minecraft.. you need up update lwjgl [06:23] i personally just use oracle java 1.6u31 [06:23] because i can both run minecraft.. and compile android ;) [06:23] le sigh. too late snadge, jeremiah_ already ragequit [06:25] probably a child [06:25] :( [06:34] Does CompizConfig no long affect the way unity works? [06:34] I've just installed 12.04 and cannot switch between workspaces like I used to in 11.10. [06:35] georgej, using ctrl+alt+arrowkey? [06:35] that was changed for a while, but then changed back. [06:35] it's currently working in my fully-updated system like it always has [06:35] nathwill: That switches workspaces, however not in the way it does on 11.10. [06:36] ? [06:36] I get the old workspace switching widget. [06:36] hmm.. super-w chucks a spastic the first time you use it [06:36] anyone else noticed that? [06:36] Give me a second, I'll try to provide a screenshot. [06:38] Erm, how can one take a screenshot from the terminal? Pressing print screen doesn't work while pressing alt+shift [06:38] Nvm, hold on [06:39] scrot! [06:39] Is there a lighter weight photo editor than gimp? [06:42] depending on what you're looking for in it [06:44] Here's how the workspace switcher works: http://i42.tinypic.com/20fdfsn.png [06:44] is shown as* [06:45] Also control+alt+shift+arrow does not move the current window. [06:45] hrm [06:45] georgej, are you fully upgraded? [06:45] nathwill: Indeed I am, apt-get updated and apt-get dist-upgrade shows no updates [06:46] i'm running unity 5.8.0-0ubuntu2, works for me... [06:46] hrm [06:46] curious if this is a good time for unity --reset [06:47] After having downloaded CompizConfig the unity plugin wasn't even enabled, and the keybinds in the desktop wall are prefixed with ArrowKey [06:47] As far as I can tell is the left control key, however, I tried that combination and nothing happens. [06:49] well... messing with compiz settings in unity can break things... [06:49] if you don't mind losing some tweaking, i'd try a unity --reset [06:52] It didn't appear to do anything, it resetted, compiz crashed and it didn't recover. [06:53] Doing another unity --reset did the same thing [06:53] It complained that it does not have the GLX extension on display :0 [06:53] Does that mean OpenGL is missing? Or something of the sorts? [06:57] iinteresting [06:59] I find this rather odd, since everything worked in 11.10 [06:59] If missing OpenGL it should fall back to unity 2d, correct? How can I check if it's really running unity3d? [06:59] working for me fine in 12.04... did you maybe upgrade from 11.10? curious if old compiz tweaks carried over [07:00] ps aux |grep compiz [07:01] nathwill: I did at first, I encountered a LOT of issues, flickers, crashes, so I formatted and installed 12.04. [07:01] gotcha [07:01] Compiz doesn't seem to be running [07:01] ps x |grep metacity [07:02] Yup, metacity is running. [07:02] so you may not have 3d then [07:02] especially if you selected unity session from the login manager [07:03] snadge, is the screen he linked to earlier the default desktop switching modal in unity-2d? i've never actually used 2d... [07:03] snadge: The login prompt provides me with a choice between Unity and Unity2d. I chose Unity [07:03] nathwill: I believe it is. [07:04] yes.. thats metacity [07:04] which unity2d uses.. thats how it switches desktop.. is more primitive than compiz [07:04] interesting. [07:04] so its likely to be a driver related issue [07:04] ty for the info [07:05] if you are running nouveau instead of nvidia.. this is likely to be the problem [07:05] check what gpu you have.. likely to be one of either intel, amd, nvidia [07:05] most likely one of the latter two [07:05] because intel just works ;) [07:05] snadge: I see, the problem is that I've got a relatively new laptop an Assus 5750G, and it has 2 graphics cards. [07:06] acer aspire? [07:06] It has an on-chip intel and an nvidia, there's a technology they call "Optimus" to switch between the two. [07:06] snadge: yes [07:06] Acer, sorry* [07:06] ahaha [07:06] i think optimus has broken support in linux .. but i could be wrong [07:07] Yes, in 11.10, I had to install a separate utility to disable the nvidia card, however, even if I didn't install that, Unity3d would run properly. [07:08] http://askubuntu.com/questions/107475/nvidia-optimus-geforce-gt-540m-not-recognised-as-a-proprietary-driver [07:08] right i can find information with regards to ubuntu 11.10 [07:09] i can see that nvidia proprietary driver has no less than 3 options [07:10] nvidia-173/updates , nvidia-96/updates and nvidia-current/updates [07:10] sorry thats 6 drivers [07:11] and on top of that.. you can probably install drivers from nvidia's website [07:11] presuming you have been here also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [07:12] night all [07:13] snadge: Tbh, I wouldn't mind disabling my nvidia card. [07:13] lspci finds both cards. [07:13] george@Gokubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA [07:13] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) [07:13] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1) [07:13] yeah im not sure how to best deal with that particular hardware [07:14] maybe you can force using the intel driver.. and just ignore the nvidia part [07:14] maybe you have to explicitly disable the nvidia part somehow [07:14] maybe its best to use the nvidia driver which will handle power saving.. and switching between the automatically [07:14] snadge: So basically, the problem is that unity falls back to 2d mode because it can find no OpenGL driver, correct? [07:16] right [07:16] you can determine what graphics driver you're using by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [07:17] the intel chip should still support enough 3d to be able to run compiz [07:17] snadge: It does, under 11.10 anyway. [07:17] http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04 [07:18] that article has some useful information on how to configure 12-04 to use both [07:20] but you could perhaps skip most of that if you wern't interested in the nvidia part [07:25] snadge: I was just reading that, thanks for the link. [07:32] when I start my fresh install of ubuntu the screen is just some strange lines but I can ssh into it, so I was wondering if someone might have a look at my syslog and maybe tell me what's wrong? [08:01] snadge: Thank you, that guide is a tad outdated. Bumblebee now has full packages for 12.04 and everything works after installing bumblebee and rebooting. [08:02] Sadly, there's a problem that persists since 11.10. I can't turn the brightness down using the function keys, the HUD appears but the brightness doesn't change. [08:02] I can change it however by echoing a value in /sys/class [08:06] Also, at the login screen, the resolution is really low and the sides of the screen remain black. [08:15] hi all [08:16] no vinagre by default in 12.04? [08:40] hi there. I've just installed gwibber-service-flickr and gwibber-service-vkontakte (from ppa). However, when I'm trying to add a new account, I only see standard options: twitter, facebook, identica. No Flickr, no Vkontakte. I restarted gwibber. When I open "Accounts" dialog, it says (in the console), that it's loading plugin for flickr and vkontakte (among others). [08:40] Is it a bug I should report or something wrong from my side? [08:41] Hi, the time appears in utc, how can I let it appear in localtime as before? [08:48] it seems I got a problem with nouveau, is there an alternative, I'd just need the console to work [08:57] triptec: tty1? [08:59] well, something works, if I ctrl+alt+del it print's out that the services are shutting down etc, but I don't get the grub menu and I can't log in, have to login with ssh [08:59] there's just a yellow blinking marker [09:00] getting an unmet dependancies error tonight for upgrades... :/ [09:00] it says this: [09:00] firefox-globalmenu : Depends: firefox (= 11.0+build1-0ubuntu3) but 11.0+build1-0ubuntu2 is installed [09:00] i've tried sudo apt-get -f install [09:00] to no avail [09:00] i've tried editing my sources list [09:01] wondering if i should just uninstall firefox, update, then reinstall firefox? [09:05] looks like it was the global menu package that was causing me errors [09:07] no love at 2 am :/ lol [09:31] I have upgraded ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 and i am unable to connect to the internet,network manager is reporting : "Device not ready!" .I have a DSL modem and a TP-LINK TF-3200 network card,and a VIA-RHINE II network card wich isn't working. [09:32] I have tried to use a live cd and check will it work but no luck,it's not working on a ubuntu live cd,on a mint or fedora. [09:32] But it's working under windows xp. [09:35] Anyone? === glosoli_ is now known as glosoli [09:59] I have just found out that my network is working under ubuntu 11.10 but not under 12.04.Network manager is reporting "Device not ready!" [10:53] I installed xubuntu 12.04 on my notebook, there is no hibernate button in the logout dialog. 11.10 had working hibernate on the same machine. what now? [11:05] there is a hibernate entry in the session menu. when I click it my screen gets locked and a notification "Power Manager" "not authorized" appears. [11:08] "In Precise, hibernation is disabled by default in policykit." "This is a feature, not a bug" ... [11:12] hi, I've installed squid3, but seems it's killed when interface are up (dmesg shows init: squid3 main process (1253) killed by HUP signal) [11:13] googling I've found only an old bug,maybe a regression... [11:27] is it possible to not use drm nouveau? [11:47] hello [11:47] did anyone try Precise with an AMD APU? i'm considering in upgrading my workstation but i fear fglrx drivers and stuff [11:51] c10ud: use Free as in freedom drivers, radeon. [11:51] markit, problem is, sometimes i like to play games (e.g. wine) [11:52] my children play games too (but only Free ones, no wine here) and work quite well [11:52] and last time i used an ATi card with ubuntu (2yrs ago), i went to the local shop and buy nvidia [11:52] like xonotic [11:53] nvidia is not collaborative with Free software, I prefer not buy it [11:55] that's a matter of choice, btw i am seeing that what i am willing to buy could actually be worse than my current video card (lol) [12:06] how do I upgrade 11.04 64bit to the newest 12 LTS? [12:07] via 11.10 [12:08] how do I upgrade myself to 11.10? im running inside openvz and have no access to host [12:10] update-manager -d [12:10] twice [12:10] MarKsaitis: you cant update in openvz that easy [12:10] as we said already [12:11] can I not [12:11] worked for me in xen :> [12:11] what do I need to do then? [12:11] :) [12:11] xen is not openvz [12:11] should I just try it? [12:11] true [12:11] what the command to show my current version? im gonna give it a go [12:11] no [12:11] talk to your provider [12:11] ok [12:11] MarKsaitis: i am not an openvz expert but there was something with the shared kernel [12:11] MarKsaitis: if you don't even know how to see your current version you should not do it [12:11] MarKsaitis: talk to your provider [12:12] MarKsaitis: cat /etc/issue [12:12] I know uname--all, but thats it [12:12] thanx [12:12] MarKsaitis: and dont!!!!! run 12.04 on a server which is reachable trough the net [12:12] can I do that after it's released then? [12:12] MarKsaitis: not on the normal way [12:12] MarKsaitis: because its openvz [12:13] what's wrong with openvz? [12:13] MarKsaitis: talk to your provider [12:13] MarKsaitis: as said already, the shared kernel [12:13] MarKsaitis: that is the only advice to get - talk to your provider [12:13] ok [12:14] I don't even have update-manager :) [12:14] MarKsaitis: imo it is do-release-upgrade [12:14] -d [12:14] :D ok [12:14] but dont do that [12:14] it will break your system and it will not boot [12:14] server is empty, can reinstall in seconds [12:14] because kernel modules are not matching the kernel [12:14] im gonna test it [12:15] i have told you.... [12:15] ok :) [12:15] MarKsaitis: is there something about "don't do it it won't work" you are not understanding ? [12:16] its like "dont press the red button" [12:16] it is :D [12:17] I actually don't find it funny [12:17] I find it pretty rude [12:17] MarKsaitis: have a look at wikipedia what openvz is [12:17] "hey guys, I don't know what I'm doing, I need help" [12:17] "don't do that it will cause you problems" [12:17] MarKsaitis: and what is special about the kernel [12:17] iceroot, I am already reading :) [12:17] "ok, I'm going to try it" [12:17] what's the point of asking for help if you just ignore it and carry on [12:17] MarKsaitis: btw, if you are interested in openvz have a look at proxmox project (http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page ) [12:17] ikonia, im not doing it :) [12:18] then why do you keep saying you will ? [12:18] I know what openvz does, is just that I don't know why new kernel cant talk to abit older modules [12:18] MarKsaitis: ok [12:18] MarKsaitis: read what the kernel is [12:18] MarKsaitis: and what modules are [12:18] MarKsaitis: and how they are build [12:18] they are built with kernel source [12:19] I sort of understand, but it's a shame I can't do a release upgrade :) [12:19] MarKsaitis: then use a better virtualisation-tool [12:19] whatever [12:19] "talk to your hosting provider" [12:20] thats fine, anyways thanx for the imput :) I will contact the supplier and ask whether they are going to upgrade their kernel to the new ubuntu one and whether they can help migrate me [12:21] MarKsaitis: and think about the point "12.04 is not stable" [12:21] I mean when it will be released [12:21] that should end any discussion about an upgrade on a production-server [12:22] ok. what is the command to update my server for latest patches and stuff? [12:22] bye [12:22] contact your supplier [12:22] this is insanity [12:22] MarKsaitis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [12:22] thanx [12:22] MarKsaitis: to get the latest security patches for your ubuntu-release [12:23] MarKsaitis: its a good idea to install the latest sec-updates fast [12:23] and dont wait month [12:24] I just did it [12:27] is the ubuntu livd cd considered to be "stable"? [12:27] im refering to precise of course [12:27] tomodachi: no [12:27] ok happy to hear it , then I still have hope :) [12:28] iceroot, how do I install lxde minimal configuration with ubuntu package manager gui and update gui? [12:29] MarKsaitis: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [12:29] thank you, and what vpn daemon package can you recommend to me? something with encryption and sessions [12:30] an interesting one *** lubuntu-desktop : Depends: gecko-mediaplayer but it is not installable [12:30] MarKsaitis: 12.04? [12:31] iceroot, im on 11.04 [12:31] MarKsaitis: #ubuntu [12:31] omg, ok [12:31] MarKsaitis: this channel is fpr 12.04, or try #lubuntu [12:31] ok [13:05] how well is 12.04 running now that beta 2 is out and such [13:08] Some small question about unity. How can I make all 'indication' (like empathy messages and so) show on Primary screen ? [13:11] thetinyjesus: working fine for a beta release === 36DAA21U2 is now known as dabor [14:04] how is everyone finding the 12.04 beta? [14:04] It's great. [14:05] I am tempted to try it - wanted to wait for the full release but bored of waiting and thought I could help beta test === steveccc_ is now known as steveccc === philinux is now known as eye-gor === captain_ is now known as captainfixerpc14 [15:16] steveccc: you still interested [15:16] ?? [15:16] in testing [15:17] steveccc: I've been running 12.04 since toolchain upload [15:17] Lsst year [15:17] i think i may get it tonight yes and try it out on my laptop [15:17] do you know if it will still install on a pentium 4? [15:17] steveccc: not your main machine I guess [15:18] How much memory has it got [15:18] i will install it on my main laptop but wouldnt mind it on my old pc but I am sure 10.04 wouldnt install for some reason [15:18] 2gb I think [15:18] Will this be booting from livecd or usb [15:19] livecd although usb is an option [15:19] Wired to internet or wireless [15:19] wired [15:20] ok I'd still do the check disk for errors then try ubuntu. Get the desktop up see if stuff is working ok then install [15:21] steveccc: are you wiping the laptop with this install or is there stuff on it [15:22] there is stuff on it - normally leave /home intact and wipe rest [15:23] steveccc: What version on there now [15:23] 10.04 [15:24] steveccc: home could be a problem due to the hidden .config files especially compiz and gnome. This is due to Unity settings [15:25] steveccc: can conflict with old settings for compiz etc [15:25] eye-gor: its mainly for data files so could trash all config files [15:26] steveccc: good plan [15:26] it will upgrade to full version wont it when its released - no disadvantage to doing it early [15:26] steveccc: Good luck with it. Are you a fan of Unity [15:27] eye-gor: not tried it - one of the reasons for upgrading [15:27] steveccc: Yep just keep it upto date with apt-get update and upgrade. Update manager not good during dev as it can offer partial upgrade that can bork your system [15:28] steveccc: you may need the dist-upgrade if apps are held back [15:28] steveccc: or use synaptic [15:29] steveccc: it's very configurable now via the package myunity [15:30] steveccc: I've reduced my laucher icons to the snallest setting which is 32. Much nicer [15:32] steveccc: myunity link http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/myunity-30-released-with-new-gui.html [15:34] OK. I AM HERE. [15:34] can someone please tell me how to instal sun java 6 runtime from the website via terminal? [15:35] oracle java. [15:35] jeremiah_, you want to wget it then [15:36]