[04:35] <jono> mhall119, around?
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:16] <dholbach> haha, very funny: http://pic.nym.se/nRen.gif
[08:18] <nigelb> dholbach: I was /just/ laughing about that :)
[09:39] <dholbach> lol, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3TAOYXT840
[09:41] <nigelb> hahaha
[11:22] <ejat> :)
[11:24] <sagaci> :D
[12:37] <jcastro> dholbach: don't flame me but
[12:37] <jcastro> I got a bunch of deadmau5
[12:38] <dholbach> which track do you like best?
[12:38] <jcastro> choose your weapon I think
[12:38] <jcastro> they all still kind of sound the same to me as I've only listened to each track once.
[12:38] <jcastro> but I should  get better at it soon
[12:39] <jcastro> oh sorry got the title wronfg
[12:39] <jcastro> "Raise your weapon"
[12:39] <jcastro> it's weird, he has vocals on some tracks
[12:39] <dholbach> bah, it's blocked in Germany - hang on
[12:41] <jcastro> "Some chords" is good too
[12:41] <dholbach> and you like the dubstep-y parts towards the end of the track too? :)
[12:41] <jcastro> my friend told me next I would like skillrex or whoever
[12:41] <jcastro> I am scared.
[12:41] <dholbach> skrillex
[12:42] <dholbach> this is one of my favourite dubstep mixes - maybe you like it: http://www.mixcloud.com/dlex/its-dubstep-who-cares/
[12:44] <jcastro> hah, this is an hour long!
[12:45] <jcastro> dholbach: do you have a ton of this stuff?
[12:46] <jcastro> we should listen to this at the sprint
[12:46] <dholbach> it's a mix tape :)
[12:46] <dholbach> yes, there's a few mixes I can dig out for you
[12:46] <jcastro> no I mean the style of music
[12:46] <dholbach> ah yes, usually you can go through the tracklist of mixes quite well :)
[12:46] <jcastro> it's good like, working music, just leave it on and go
[12:47] <dholbach> or be in a club immediately in front of the speakers
[12:48] <jcastro> "The term brostep has been used by some as a pejorative descriptor for a style of popular Americanised dubstep."
[12:48] <jcastro> haha
[12:48] <jcastro> dholbach: this is pretty good
[12:49] <jcastro> dholbach: ok for sure the one track I like from the mouse is "Some Chords".
[12:49] <jcastro> Just crank that.
[12:49] <jcastro> that should be our UDS music
[12:50] <dholbach> ok, I put it on - let me check it out
[12:50] <jcastro> <3
[12:50] <dholbach> james_w, ^ jcastro just placed an order for some Dubstep at UDS
[12:50] <jcastro> dholbach: hey tell me when you want to start it, we'll listen to it together.
[12:50] <dholbach> oh, I started without you already - let me go back to the beginning :-P
[12:50] <dholbach> jcastro, ready?
[12:51] <jcastro> yeah
[12:51] <jcastro> 3
[12:51] <jcastro> 2
[12:51] <jcastro> 1
[12:51] <jcastro> go!
[12:51] <dholbach> go!
[12:51] <dholbach> haha
[12:51]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[12:52] <dholbach> jcastro, two weeks ago I finally played in a club again and it was just fantastic - at the middle of the set a guy came up and said "hey, I'm an MC - where can I plug my mic?"
[12:52] <jcastro> did you let him? :)
[12:52] <dholbach> jcastro, it's something I always wanted to do and it just happened without me doing anything
[12:52] <dholbach> it was AWESOME
[12:52] <jcastro> nice!
[12:52] <dholbach> the good thing is: I recorded it ;-)
[12:53] <dholbach> it makes such a difference
[12:53] <jcastro> whatever that high pitched thing is here, it's awesome
[14:44] <jcastro> snap-l: dang, Jim Marshall died
[14:44] <jcastro> (marshall amps)
[14:44] <sagaci> ah bugger
[14:44] <sagaci> though I'm a fender guy
[14:47] <czajkowski> no dpm :/
[14:48] <sagaci> he's on holidays
[14:48] <sagaci> til tuesday
[14:49] <czajkowski> cheers
[14:55] <snap-l> jcastro: Yeah, we're losing the greats
[14:56] <jcastro> balloons: hey testing guy
[14:56] <czajkowski> whoo 4 day weekend and I can finally have fizzy drinks back :D
[14:56] <jcastro> \o/
[14:58] <cprofitt> Nice to have a 4 day weekend!!
[14:59] <cprofitt> I have a three day weekend, but Sunday will be busy.
[14:59] <balloons> yes jcastro ?
[14:59] <jcastro> https://areweslimyet.com/
[14:59] <jcastro> this is awesome
[14:59] <jcastro> we need it!
[14:59] <jcastro> :)
[15:00] <balloons> yea.. I saw that the other day
[15:00] <balloons> pretty slick
[15:02] <balloons> jcastro, btw.. how was the testing recieved?
[15:02] <balloons> for maas?
[15:02] <jcastro> I had one email from a guy who needed dnsmasq docs updated
[15:02] <jcastro> sent to diogo
[15:03] <jcastro> no real tests yet (as I expected)
[15:03] <jcastro> all the guys I know have it on their radar but testing something like this isn't something people can just start doing on a dime
[15:11] <jcastro> mhall119: did they give you a  list of rooms yet?
[15:13] <mhall119> jcastro: not yet, let me see if I can ping marianna
[15:14] <mhall119> hmm, not online
[15:14] <jcastro> mhall119: ok msm has one, she will send it to us after her phone call
[15:15] <mhall119> jcastro: are we going to have specific rooms for private meetings?
[15:15] <jcastro> no clue
[15:15] <mhall119> ok, I'll wait for the email then
[15:15] <jcastro> I thought you would know that, heh
[15:15]  * mhall119 knows nothing
[15:19] <sagaci> when is the schedule for UDS usually finalised?
[15:20] <jcastro> about the sunday before. :)
[15:20] <jcastro> actually, last time it was about a week ahead of time
[15:21] <sagaci> ah, that late
[15:21] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo team
[15:25] <nigelb> hey bodhi_zazen
[15:37] <balloons> hey bodhi_zazen
[15:39] <bodhi_zazen> good to see you balloons , you have s .deb you want me to test yet ?
[15:39] <balloons> lol
[15:39] <balloons> I'm good now bodhi_zazen
[15:39] <balloons> you can get it from the ppa if you wish.. cuz it all works :-)
[15:43] <bodhi_zazen> fantastic
[15:43] <bodhi_zazen> well if it works, good work
[15:43] <bodhi_zazen> let me know if I can help in the future
[15:43] <balloons> heh.. I had some help.. and yes thank you, I will
[15:52] <jono> mhall119, do you know anything about quickly package?
[15:52] <jono> I am having issues with https://answers.launchpad.net/quickly/+question/192700
[15:56] <mhall119> jono: looking at it now
[16:01] <dholbach> mhall119, jono: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickly/+bug/914140 maybe?
[16:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 914140 in quickly "Package PyGTK app with Quickly fails" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[16:01] <technoviking> 'allo all
[16:02] <technoviking> czajkowski: you planning some of the UDS social events again?
[16:02] <czajkowski> technoviking: I'm planning a social event with one of my co workers,we're doing a photo walk
[16:03] <jono> dholbach, checking
[16:03] <jono> one sec mhall119, wont be long, responding to a few pings
[16:03] <dholbach> jono, it seems like mterry was asking for an example in March, so if you ping him with your example this might be the same issue
[16:03] <technoviking> czajkowski: thinking about renting a car to drive up and see a taping of This Week in Tech on Sunday afternoon before UDS
[16:04] <technoviking> thought if a couple of car loads went up it would be fun
[16:05] <czajkowski> technoviking: oh nice idea
[16:06] <czajkowski> need to poke gmb re photo walk so we can plan the walk fit in some nosh along the way
[16:06] <mhall119> jono: it's actually python-mkdebian that is failing
[16:07] <jono> dholbach, interesting, I am talking to didrocks in #quickly about it too
[16:14] <jcastro> mhall119: ok msm should have sent you the room list by now
[16:20] <dholbach> mhall119, you remember the /services/ bits you added to the LTP?
[16:21] <mhall119> dholbach: yes
[16:21] <dholbach> I nicked the code for Harvest
[16:21] <dholbach> and noticed a bug
[16:21] <dholbach> let me see if the problem affects the LTP still or if it is still in there
[16:22] <dholbach> hum, it changed a lot
[16:22] <dholbach> there was something in the  results[offset:length]  calculation which didn't work out
[16:22] <dholbach> I'll need to fix it in Harvest to make a bitesize lens work
[16:22] <mhall119> hmmm
[16:23] <dholbach> but the code changed completely in LTP it seems
[16:24] <dholbach> anyway - I just thought I'd give you a headsup as I knew the code was used elsewhere
[16:24] <dholbach> I'll go and fix it in Harvest :)
[16:24] <mhall119> dholbach: can you describe the bug more?
[16:24] <nigelb> mhall119: Did you read http://ryanfunduk.com/culture-of-exclusion/ already?
[16:24] <mhall119> nigelb: yes
[16:24] <nigelb> :)
[16:25] <dholbach> mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/916230/ is the code in question
[16:25] <dholbach> it was there to ensure you never try to get >=500 objects
[16:25] <mhall119> While he has a valid point about perception from people who don't drink, I think he misses the fact that "beer" is just a symbol of a more important informal social relationship that is necessary for a close community
[16:26] <dholbach> but if you want to get objects 501-1000, you won't get them as the way 'length' is used, "length > CHUNK_SIZE" will always be true
[16:26] <dholbach> but maybe the code in question is my own creation and I'm entirely to blame myself :)
[16:27] <dholbach> ... and LTP is not affected :)=
[16:27] <mhall119> dholbach: yeah, I don't see that in ltp, and probably not in summit either, did you add that just for harvest?
[16:27] <dholbach> either we had those code bits in the LTP before or I wrote it and got it wrong
[16:29] <mhall119> dholbach: I don't think it was evern in LTP or Summit
[16:29] <dholbach> ok, likely my mistake then :)
[16:30] <jono> sorry mhall119, wont be too long
[16:34] <mhall119> jono: no problem, I'm watching the conversation in #quickly :)
[16:34] <jono> :-)
[16:34] <pleia2> mhall119: there is a difference between social drinking and some of his examples (and what I've seen at tech conferences), somewhere along the way this "drinking == cool" thing got started and in our traditional geek way, we take it too far
[16:34] <mhall119> pleia2: yeah, which is why I concede that his point is valid
[16:35] <mhall119> but his solution (no organized drinks, just organized work) I disagree with
[16:35] <pleia2> it also ignores the fact that it'll happen anyway
[16:35] <nigelb> I think the midway is to have a paid bar.
[16:35] <mhall119> no, he makes the point that the people who want to will find a place to go drink
[16:35] <pleia2> UDS has very few organized drinks, the free drinks we do have are quire limited
[16:35] <pleia2> but we all still go out and get drunk at night
[16:36] <mhall119> most of us don't get drunk
[16:36] <pleia2> s/quire/quite
[16:36] <nigelb> I hung out with you guys while you were drinking
[16:36] <Pendulum> OTOH, I didn't drink most of the last UDS and had no pressure to drink from anyone
[16:36] <mhall119> drinking != drunk
[16:36] <nigelb> Noone was obnoxiously drunk.
[16:36] <nigelb> We had fun even though I didn't drink.
[16:36] <jono> there is definitely an alcohol culture at many events
[16:36] <jono> I didnt drink for four years going through Uni and I felt like a bit of an outcast too
[16:36] <Pendulum> I think the alcohol culture is high, but it's not really any higher than I had working in publishing
[16:36] <nigelb> So, here's one thing I want to raise.
[16:37] <nigelb> I feel bad for the underage folk who may be at the conf but can't join us at the bar.
[16:37] <pleia2> I think the last time I got drunk at UDS was when I was with the OEM guys in Budapest, but one night was ok for me, I drank a lot of water :)
[16:37] <nigelb> While I didn't drink, I was happy to come along and drink overpriced orange juice :P
[16:37] <jono> I dont think most people are pressured to drink, but it often feels weird if you are not drinking when everyone else is
[16:37] <mhall119> that was crazy expensive OJ
[16:37] <nigelb> totally.
[16:37] <jono> I experienced this at the last UDS when I could not drink
[16:37] <nigelb> I think I should just buy orange next time.
[16:37] <nigelb> *oranges
[16:37] <pleia2> nigelb: lol
[16:38] <nigelb> pleia2: I paid more than they paid for beer!
[16:38] <mhall119> the thing is, you can s/drinking/(loud music, dancing, etc)/ and the feeling of being left out would still be there
[16:38] <nigelb> and much lesser!
[16:38] <pleia2> it wouldn't look all that odd at a florida UDS to walk in with a bag of oranges :)
[16:38] <pleia2> mhall119: yeah, partying is way different from drinking, partying is what puts me off and makes me feel excluded
[16:38] <nigelb> I think UDS is more controlled of an environment than most other confs.
[16:38] <cjohnston> nor Cali
[16:38] <jono> mhall119, I agree
[16:39] <jono> not everything in life is equal
[16:39] <mhall119> and I think that's the point that he was missing in the post
[16:39] <Pendulum> I live in a family where having wine with dinner is fairly normal. I feel a lot weirder not drinking at family events than I felt at UDS
[16:39] <jono> and sometimes that is OK
[16:39] <nigelb> I did not drink at BUdapest and still had fun. I didn't feel left out either.
[16:39] <nigelb> (well, I drank wine, but yeah)
[16:39] <pleia2> cjohnston: socal maybe, no oranges here :)
[16:39] <cjohnston> true
[16:39] <jono> we also can't insulate people from life...drinking is part and parcel of much of the world, we can't protect people from that at UDS :-)
[16:39] <jono> but what I think we need to not do as exclude people because of it
[16:40] <pleia2> I think in general UDS does do a good job
[16:40] <nigelb> I agree.
[16:40] <czajkowski> pleia2: nods I do too
[16:40] <Pendulum> I agree as well
[16:40] <czajkowski> though I do find the friday night event always that bit harder
[16:40] <nigelb> Now, we do know where we shouldn't go.
[16:40] <czajkowski> you're trying to talk to people and the music/live band does get very loud so I migrate outside with others and chat there
[16:40] <pleia2> yeah, I always end up going outside
[16:41] <czajkowski> at the orlando one we all ended up in the hotel bar as it was easier to chat to
[16:41] <bkerensa> Merchandise Mania is shipping meh something but I am not expecting anything weird stuff
[16:41] <Pendulum> *nods*
[16:41] <pleia2> went to the pool in budapest friday night, it was great :)
[16:41] <mhall119> for me, not being particularly extroverted, I feel more excluded from the music and dancing than from the drinking
[16:41] <pleia2> mhall119: yeah
[16:41] <nigelb> *cough* I linked the music :D
[16:41] <nigelb> *liked
[16:41] <nigelb> I was right up front beside the speakers
[16:42] <Pendulum> I like some of the music, but I tend to find the volume too much (I'm very volume sensitive)
[16:42] <mhall119> I liked the music, but I don't play, sing, cheer or dance, so I just sat around listening
[16:42] <Pendulum> So I tend to move off relatively early to somewhere that I can chat
[16:42] <czajkowski> nigelb: I like music, just not when I wanna say good bye and chat to people on the last night
[16:42] <nigelb> czajkowski: Ah. I did those before the party.
[16:42]  * czajkowski used to work as a bouncer and would happily stand against a speaker then 
[16:43] <nigelb> Becuase I did not think I'd get a chance to talk at the party.
[16:43] <nigelb> (and it was true)
[16:43] <mhall119> anyway, I think UDS does a good job with providing non-alcoholic beverages at events too, so as not to exclude participation
[16:43]  * mhall119 can imagine czajkowski throwing people out of a club
[16:44] <mhall119> jono: we have a 4:30 call scheduled too, do you just want to do everything then?
[16:44] <jono> mhall119, yeah, lets do that
[16:44] <czajkowski> mhall119: I got paid to be a club and listen to music I like and worked with great mates, win win really :)
[16:44] <jono> mhall119, I am keen to stick around for didrocks while he is still online
[16:44] <jono> thanks mhall119
[16:44] <mhall119> jono: no problem
[16:45] <jono> fascinating watching didrocks do his thing :-)
[16:46] <dholbach> let's have next UDS in Iran - no drinking, no dancing, no problem :-P
[16:46] <pleia2> dholbach: hehe
[16:46] <cjohnston> no cjohnston
[16:46] <jono> dholbach, sounds fun
[16:46] <jono> lol
[16:46] <czajkowski> dholbach: ahh but I like hearing you dj!
[16:46] <dholbach> cjohnston, no problem :-P
[16:46] <cjohnston> nice
[16:46]  * dholbach hugs cjohnston
[16:46] <cjohnston> I feel the love
[16:48] <technoviking> whee… just got the money to build a new .5 petabyte SAN:)
[16:48] <nigelb> dholbach++
[16:48] <nigelb> dholbach: tea!
[16:48] <bkerensa> technoviking: ^ Nice
[16:48] <nigelb> Instead of beer.
[16:48] <jcastro> popey: oy, pass this along to -uk folks eh: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/04/brightbox-12-04-daily-images-now-available-discounts-for-testers-and-ubuntu-members/
[16:49] <dholbach> nigelb, yes, and fantastic sweets - they really have their sweets story sorted out :)
[16:49] <nigelb> haha
[16:51] <czajkowski> jcastro: would be great to see a +1 G+ twitter on cloud.u.c for articles so you cna then post them elsewhere
[16:52] <jono> mhall119, please reach out to http://lunduke.com/?page_id=2646 to ensure he can build in Unity support
[16:52] <mhall119> jcastro: you can nab the code from LTP or Summit to add social links
[16:52] <jcastro> czajkowski: the portal is being all redone
[16:52] <czajkowski> mhall119: really?
[16:52] <jcastro> by the web team
[16:52] <czajkowski> mhall119: really good to know
[16:52] <mhall119> czajkowski: what is?
[16:53] <czajkowski> jcastro: cool, was just a thought said similar to sabdfl the other day with his blog as well
[16:53] <mhall119> jono: do you know if zoopster is talking to them to get it into USC?
[16:53] <czajkowski> mhall119: the code for social stuff is there already elsewhere
[16:53] <mhall119> czajkowski: yeah, cjohnston added it
[16:53] <czajkowski> see not just a pretty face, cjohnston is very useful :)
[16:54] <mhall119> but also quite pretty
[16:54] <jono> mhall119, no idea, can you check into that too
[16:54] <czajkowski> heh
[16:56] <mhall119> jono: he is, and they're already in the process
[16:56] <jono> mhall119, cool
[16:56] <jono> let's ensure he has everything he needs for the app to neatly fit into Unity
[16:59] <mhall119> email sent
[17:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: jcastro: rooms have been added to summit for uds-q
[17:13] <jcastro> \o/
[17:13] <cjohnston> mhall119: do you want the autoscheduler turned on then?
[17:13] <jcastro> mhall119: ok so so far the chromium dudes need those sessions
[17:13] <jcastro> and I think that's it for custom ones we know about right?
[17:14] <mhall119> jcastro: what?
[17:14] <jcastro> mhall119: I sent you a mail about those sessions the chromium guys need? From chase douglas.
[17:14] <jcastro> and then you were like "hey what are the rooms?"
[17:15] <mhall119> jcastro: right, I can add them to the schedule
[17:15]  * mhall119 will attempt to use cjohnston's new create meeting functionaliry
[17:16] <jcastro> mhall119: also I dunno if jono wants to do workshops and stuff again
[17:16] <jcastro> if we do we should add those by hand now before we turn on the autoscheduler?
[17:17] <jono> I am want to do the Leadership Summit
[17:19] <bkerensa> Leadership Summit is fun
[17:24] <mhall119> cjohnston: dude, adding meetings through summit rocks!
[17:24] <cjohnston> ty
[17:25] <cjohnston> if only people would use it and only create blueprints later as needed
[17:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: give it time
[17:51] <dholbach> alright my friends - it's time to call it a day for me
[17:51] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day
[17:51] <dholbach> HUGS
[17:51] <mhall119> dholbach: are you off tomorrow?
[17:51] <dholbach> I am
[17:51] <mhall119> then have a good weekend
[17:51] <dholbach> thanks a bunch :)
[17:52] <balloons> bye dholbach !
[17:52] <dholbach> you too :-)
[20:31] <jono> mhall119,  going to be a bit late, my call with balloons started late
[20:34] <czajkowski> 226 updates :O
[20:36] <mhall119> jono: no problem, ping me when you're ready
[20:41] <czajkowski> jono: can you tweet love http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2012/04/05/ordering-your-12-04-cds-for-loco-teams-is-now-available/  please
[20:42] <mhall119> czajkowski: posted on FB
[20:43] <czajkowski> aye did that to locoteams page
[20:54] <jono> mhall119, lets roll
[20:56] <jono> mhall119, invite sent
[20:57] <jono> czajkowski, will do
[20:57] <czajkowski> jono: thanks
[21:21]  * popey blinks
[21:21] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ZFxFv5MU8
[21:23] <czajkowski> milk mustn't go off over there