[04:35] mhall119, around? [07:01] good morning [07:13] aloha [08:16] haha, very funny: http://pic.nym.se/nRen.gif [08:18] dholbach: I was /just/ laughing about that :) [09:39] lol, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3TAOYXT840 [09:41] hahaha [11:22] :) [11:24] :D [12:37] dholbach: don't flame me but [12:37] I got a bunch of deadmau5 [12:38] which track do you like best? [12:38] choose your weapon I think [12:38] they all still kind of sound the same to me as I've only listened to each track once. [12:38] but I should get better at it soon [12:39] oh sorry got the title wronfg [12:39] "Raise your weapon" [12:39] it's weird, he has vocals on some tracks [12:39] bah, it's blocked in Germany - hang on [12:41] "Some chords" is good too [12:41] and you like the dubstep-y parts towards the end of the track too? :) [12:41] my friend told me next I would like skillrex or whoever [12:41] I am scared. [12:41] skrillex [12:42] this is one of my favourite dubstep mixes - maybe you like it: http://www.mixcloud.com/dlex/its-dubstep-who-cares/ [12:44] hah, this is an hour long! [12:45] dholbach: do you have a ton of this stuff? [12:46] we should listen to this at the sprint [12:46] it's a mix tape :) [12:46] yes, there's a few mixes I can dig out for you [12:46] no I mean the style of music [12:46] ah yes, usually you can go through the tracklist of mixes quite well :) [12:46] it's good like, working music, just leave it on and go [12:47] or be in a club immediately in front of the speakers [12:48] "The term brostep has been used by some as a pejorative descriptor for a style of popular Americanised dubstep." [12:48] haha [12:48] dholbach: this is pretty good [12:49] dholbach: ok for sure the one track I like from the mouse is "Some Chords". [12:49] Just crank that. [12:49] that should be our UDS music [12:50] ok, I put it on - let me check it out [12:50] <3 [12:50] james_w, ^ jcastro just placed an order for some Dubstep at UDS [12:50] dholbach: hey tell me when you want to start it, we'll listen to it together. [12:50] oh, I started without you already - let me go back to the beginning :-P [12:50] jcastro, ready? [12:51] yeah [12:51] 3 [12:51] 2 [12:51] 1 [12:51] go! [12:51] go! [12:51] haha [12:51] * dholbach hugs jcastro [12:52] jcastro, two weeks ago I finally played in a club again and it was just fantastic - at the middle of the set a guy came up and said "hey, I'm an MC - where can I plug my mic?" [12:52] did you let him? :) [12:52] jcastro, it's something I always wanted to do and it just happened without me doing anything [12:52] it was AWESOME [12:52] nice! [12:52] the good thing is: I recorded it ;-) [12:53] it makes such a difference [12:53] whatever that high pitched thing is here, it's awesome === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:44] snap-l: dang, Jim Marshall died [14:44] (marshall amps) [14:44] ah bugger [14:44] though I'm a fender guy [14:47] no dpm :/ [14:48] he's on holidays [14:48] til tuesday [14:49] cheers [14:55] jcastro: Yeah, we're losing the greats [14:56] balloons: hey testing guy [14:56] whoo 4 day weekend and I can finally have fizzy drinks back :D [14:56] \o/ [14:58] Nice to have a 4 day weekend!! [14:59] I have a three day weekend, but Sunday will be busy. [14:59] yes jcastro ? [14:59] https://areweslimyet.com/ [14:59] this is awesome [14:59] we need it! [14:59] :) [15:00] yea.. I saw that the other day [15:00] pretty slick === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [15:02] jcastro, btw.. how was the testing recieved? [15:02] for maas? [15:02] I had one email from a guy who needed dnsmasq docs updated [15:02] sent to diogo [15:03] no real tests yet (as I expected) [15:03] all the guys I know have it on their radar but testing something like this isn't something people can just start doing on a dime [15:11] mhall119: did they give you a list of rooms yet? [15:13] jcastro: not yet, let me see if I can ping marianna [15:14] hmm, not online [15:14] mhall119: ok msm has one, she will send it to us after her phone call [15:15] jcastro: are we going to have specific rooms for private meetings? [15:15] no clue [15:15] ok, I'll wait for the email then [15:15] I thought you would know that, heh [15:15] * mhall119 knows nothing [15:19] when is the schedule for UDS usually finalised? [15:20] about the sunday before. :) [15:20] actually, last time it was about a week ahead of time [15:21] ah, that late [15:21] 'lo team [15:25] hey bodhi_zazen [15:37] hey bodhi_zazen [15:39] good to see you balloons , you have s .deb you want me to test yet ? [15:39] lol [15:39] I'm good now bodhi_zazen [15:39] you can get it from the ppa if you wish.. cuz it all works :-) [15:43] fantastic [15:43] well if it works, good work [15:43] let me know if I can help in the future [15:43] heh.. I had some help.. and yes thank you, I will [15:52] mhall119, do you know anything about quickly package? [15:52] I am having issues with https://answers.launchpad.net/quickly/+question/192700 [15:56] jono: looking at it now [16:01] mhall119, jono: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickly/+bug/914140 maybe? [16:01] Launchpad bug 914140 in quickly "Package PyGTK app with Quickly fails" [Undecided,Incomplete] [16:01] 'allo all [16:02] czajkowski: you planning some of the UDS social events again? [16:02] technoviking: I'm planning a social event with one of my co workers,we're doing a photo walk [16:03] dholbach, checking [16:03] one sec mhall119, wont be long, responding to a few pings [16:03] jono, it seems like mterry was asking for an example in March, so if you ping him with your example this might be the same issue [16:03] czajkowski: thinking about renting a car to drive up and see a taping of This Week in Tech on Sunday afternoon before UDS [16:04] thought if a couple of car loads went up it would be fun [16:05] technoviking: oh nice idea [16:06] need to poke gmb re photo walk so we can plan the walk fit in some nosh along the way [16:06] jono: it's actually python-mkdebian that is failing [16:07] dholbach, interesting, I am talking to didrocks in #quickly about it too [16:14] mhall119: ok msm should have sent you the room list by now [16:20] mhall119, you remember the /services/ bits you added to the LTP? [16:21] dholbach: yes [16:21] I nicked the code for Harvest [16:21] and noticed a bug [16:21] let me see if the problem affects the LTP still or if it is still in there [16:22] hum, it changed a lot [16:22] there was something in the results[offset:length] calculation which didn't work out [16:22] I'll need to fix it in Harvest to make a bitesize lens work [16:22] hmmm [16:23] but the code changed completely in LTP it seems [16:24] anyway - I just thought I'd give you a headsup as I knew the code was used elsewhere [16:24] I'll go and fix it in Harvest :) [16:24] dholbach: can you describe the bug more? [16:24] mhall119: Did you read http://ryanfunduk.com/culture-of-exclusion/ already? [16:24] nigelb: yes [16:24] :) [16:25] mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/916230/ is the code in question [16:25] it was there to ensure you never try to get >=500 objects [16:25] While he has a valid point about perception from people who don't drink, I think he misses the fact that "beer" is just a symbol of a more important informal social relationship that is necessary for a close community [16:26] but if you want to get objects 501-1000, you won't get them as the way 'length' is used, "length > CHUNK_SIZE" will always be true [16:26] but maybe the code in question is my own creation and I'm entirely to blame myself :) [16:27] ... and LTP is not affected :)= [16:27] dholbach: yeah, I don't see that in ltp, and probably not in summit either, did you add that just for harvest? [16:27] either we had those code bits in the LTP before or I wrote it and got it wrong [16:29] dholbach: I don't think it was evern in LTP or Summit [16:29] ok, likely my mistake then :) [16:30] sorry mhall119, wont be too long [16:34] jono: no problem, I'm watching the conversation in #quickly :) [16:34] :-) [16:34] mhall119: there is a difference between social drinking and some of his examples (and what I've seen at tech conferences), somewhere along the way this "drinking == cool" thing got started and in our traditional geek way, we take it too far [16:34] pleia2: yeah, which is why I concede that his point is valid [16:35] but his solution (no organized drinks, just organized work) I disagree with [16:35] it also ignores the fact that it'll happen anyway [16:35] I think the midway is to have a paid bar. [16:35] no, he makes the point that the people who want to will find a place to go drink [16:35] UDS has very few organized drinks, the free drinks we do have are quire limited [16:35] but we all still go out and get drunk at night [16:36] most of us don't get drunk [16:36] s/quire/quite [16:36] I hung out with you guys while you were drinking [16:36] OTOH, I didn't drink most of the last UDS and had no pressure to drink from anyone [16:36] drinking != drunk [16:36] Noone was obnoxiously drunk. [16:36] We had fun even though I didn't drink. [16:36] there is definitely an alcohol culture at many events [16:36] I didnt drink for four years going through Uni and I felt like a bit of an outcast too [16:36] I think the alcohol culture is high, but it's not really any higher than I had working in publishing [16:36] So, here's one thing I want to raise. [16:37] I feel bad for the underage folk who may be at the conf but can't join us at the bar. [16:37] I think the last time I got drunk at UDS was when I was with the OEM guys in Budapest, but one night was ok for me, I drank a lot of water :) [16:37] While I didn't drink, I was happy to come along and drink overpriced orange juice :P [16:37] I dont think most people are pressured to drink, but it often feels weird if you are not drinking when everyone else is [16:37] that was crazy expensive OJ [16:37] totally. [16:37] I experienced this at the last UDS when I could not drink [16:37] I think I should just buy orange next time. [16:37] *oranges [16:37] nigelb: lol [16:38] pleia2: I paid more than they paid for beer! [16:38] the thing is, you can s/drinking/(loud music, dancing, etc)/ and the feeling of being left out would still be there [16:38] and much lesser! [16:38] it wouldn't look all that odd at a florida UDS to walk in with a bag of oranges :) [16:38] mhall119: yeah, partying is way different from drinking, partying is what puts me off and makes me feel excluded [16:38] I think UDS is more controlled of an environment than most other confs. [16:38] nor Cali [16:38] mhall119, I agree [16:39] not everything in life is equal [16:39] and I think that's the point that he was missing in the post [16:39] I live in a family where having wine with dinner is fairly normal. I feel a lot weirder not drinking at family events than I felt at UDS [16:39] and sometimes that is OK [16:39] I did not drink at BUdapest and still had fun. I didn't feel left out either. [16:39] (well, I drank wine, but yeah) [16:39] cjohnston: socal maybe, no oranges here :) [16:39] true [16:39] we also can't insulate people from life...drinking is part and parcel of much of the world, we can't protect people from that at UDS :-) [16:39] but what I think we need to not do as exclude people because of it [16:40] I think in general UDS does do a good job [16:40] I agree. [16:40] pleia2: nods I do too [16:40] I agree as well [16:40] though I do find the friday night event always that bit harder [16:40] Now, we do know where we shouldn't go. [16:40] you're trying to talk to people and the music/live band does get very loud so I migrate outside with others and chat there [16:40] yeah, I always end up going outside [16:41] at the orlando one we all ended up in the hotel bar as it was easier to chat to [16:41] Merchandise Mania is shipping meh something but I am not expecting anything weird stuff [16:41] *nods* [16:41] went to the pool in budapest friday night, it was great :) [16:41] for me, not being particularly extroverted, I feel more excluded from the music and dancing than from the drinking [16:41] mhall119: yeah [16:41] *cough* I linked the music :D [16:41] *liked [16:41] I was right up front beside the speakers [16:42] I like some of the music, but I tend to find the volume too much (I'm very volume sensitive) [16:42] I liked the music, but I don't play, sing, cheer or dance, so I just sat around listening [16:42] So I tend to move off relatively early to somewhere that I can chat [16:42] nigelb: I like music, just not when I wanna say good bye and chat to people on the last night [16:42] czajkowski: Ah. I did those before the party. [16:42] * czajkowski used to work as a bouncer and would happily stand against a speaker then [16:43] Becuase I did not think I'd get a chance to talk at the party. [16:43] (and it was true) [16:43] anyway, I think UDS does a good job with providing non-alcoholic beverages at events too, so as not to exclude participation [16:43] * mhall119 can imagine czajkowski throwing people out of a club [16:44] jono: we have a 4:30 call scheduled too, do you just want to do everything then? [16:44] mhall119, yeah, lets do that [16:44] mhall119: I got paid to be a club and listen to music I like and worked with great mates, win win really :) [16:44] mhall119, I am keen to stick around for didrocks while he is still online [16:44] thanks mhall119 [16:44] jono: no problem [16:45] fascinating watching didrocks do his thing :-) [16:46] let's have next UDS in Iran - no drinking, no dancing, no problem :-P [16:46] dholbach: hehe [16:46] no cjohnston [16:46] dholbach, sounds fun [16:46] lol [16:46] dholbach: ahh but I like hearing you dj! [16:46] cjohnston, no problem :-P [16:46] nice [16:46] * dholbach hugs cjohnston [16:46] I feel the love [16:48] whee… just got the money to build a new .5 petabyte SAN:) [16:48] dholbach++ [16:48] dholbach: tea! [16:48] technoviking: ^ Nice [16:48] Instead of beer. [16:48] popey: oy, pass this along to -uk folks eh: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/04/brightbox-12-04-daily-images-now-available-discounts-for-testers-and-ubuntu-members/ [16:49] nigelb, yes, and fantastic sweets - they really have their sweets story sorted out :) [16:49] haha [16:51] jcastro: would be great to see a +1 G+ twitter on cloud.u.c for articles so you cna then post them elsewhere [16:52] mhall119, please reach out to http://lunduke.com/?page_id=2646 to ensure he can build in Unity support [16:52] jcastro: you can nab the code from LTP or Summit to add social links [16:52] czajkowski: the portal is being all redone [16:52] mhall119: really? [16:52] by the web team [16:52] mhall119: really good to know [16:52] czajkowski: what is? [16:53] jcastro: cool, was just a thought said similar to sabdfl the other day with his blog as well [16:53] jono: do you know if zoopster is talking to them to get it into USC? [16:53] mhall119: the code for social stuff is there already elsewhere [16:53] czajkowski: yeah, cjohnston added it [16:53] see not just a pretty face, cjohnston is very useful :) [16:54] but also quite pretty [16:54] mhall119, no idea, can you check into that too [16:54] heh [16:56] jono: he is, and they're already in the process [16:56] mhall119, cool [16:56] let's ensure he has everything he needs for the app to neatly fit into Unity [16:59] email sent [17:12] cjohnston: jcastro: rooms have been added to summit for uds-q [17:13] \o/ [17:13] mhall119: do you want the autoscheduler turned on then? [17:13] mhall119: ok so so far the chromium dudes need those sessions [17:13] and I think that's it for custom ones we know about right? [17:14] jcastro: what? [17:14] mhall119: I sent you a mail about those sessions the chromium guys need? From chase douglas. [17:14] and then you were like "hey what are the rooms?" [17:15] jcastro: right, I can add them to the schedule [17:15] * mhall119 will attempt to use cjohnston's new create meeting functionaliry [17:16] mhall119: also I dunno if jono wants to do workshops and stuff again [17:16] if we do we should add those by hand now before we turn on the autoscheduler? [17:17] I am want to do the Leadership Summit [17:19] Leadership Summit is fun [17:24] cjohnston: dude, adding meetings through summit rocks! [17:24] ty [17:25] if only people would use it and only create blueprints later as needed [17:25] cjohnston: give it time [17:51] alright my friends - it's time to call it a day for me [17:51] have a great rest of your day [17:51] HUGS [17:51] dholbach: are you off tomorrow? [17:51] I am [17:51] then have a good weekend [17:51] thanks a bunch :) [17:52] bye dholbach ! [17:52] you too :-) === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [20:31] mhall119, going to be a bit late, my call with balloons started late [20:34] 226 updates :O [20:36] jono: no problem, ping me when you're ready [20:41] jono: can you tweet love http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2012/04/05/ordering-your-12-04-cds-for-loco-teams-is-now-available/ please [20:42] czajkowski: posted on FB [20:43] aye did that to locoteams page [20:54] mhall119, lets roll [20:56] mhall119, invite sent [20:57] czajkowski, will do [20:57] jono: thanks [21:21] * popey blinks [21:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ZFxFv5MU8 [21:23] milk mustn't go off over there