| bryceh | anyone know if there's a way in apport hooks to make the bug private? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| jbicha | TheMuso: ping | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | jbicha: pong | 01:39 |
| jbicha | TheMuso: do you use accerciser? | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | jbicha: Occasionally yes. | 01:39 |
| jbicha | TheMuso: does it work in Precise? | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | For what I need it for, yes. | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | WHich is usually not much. | 01:40 |
| jbicha | it's not working here, bug 973842 | 01:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 973842 in accerciser "accerciser crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/accerciser/icons.py: No module named pyatspi.constants" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973842 | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | jbicha: Oh right, there was a slight issue with a recent pyatspi upload, make sure you have 2.4.0+dfsg-0ubuntu3. | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | I only uploaded that a few hours ago, but its built and should be published now, if not soon. | 01:42 |
| jbicha | TheMuso: thanks, it's working better now :) | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | Great. | 01:58 |
| TheMuso | and np. | 01:58 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:13 |
| Sweetshark | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/915271/comments/61 | 06:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 915271 in libreoffice "package libreoffice-core 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: rmdir: failed to remove `usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/': Directory not empty" [Critical,Fix released] | 06:33 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: that's bug spam :) | 06:49 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: you can file a launchpad support request or ask in #launchpad for it to be removed | 06:50 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: i dont mind it, i find it funny this time around (and the bug is closed anyway). | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: would be different, if there would be more of it. | 07:52 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| bkerensa | diwic: In regards to Bug #969621 removing the line does not make the jack work | 08:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 969621 in alsa-driver "[Dell Inspiron N411Z] Headphone Jack will not produce audio but internal will" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969621 | 08:05 |
| BigWhale | Greetings. | 08:06 |
| davidcalle | kenvandine, ping | 08:26 |
| seb128 | davidcalle, it's like 4am for him | 08:30 |
| davidcalle | seb128, good point :) | 08:41 |
| seb128 | davidcalle, while you are around I've read some user comments about the video lens scope being english sources, do you know if that's "translatable"? | 08:42 |
| davidcalle | seb128, it's not, the list of sources is queried from a server when the scope starts. The server answers a list based on the IP to avoid websites blocked in your region. But that's it, no language support (server side decision, I don't really know why). | 08:44 |
| seb128 | davidcalle, ok, thanks, who is managing the server? online services? | 08:45 |
| davidcalle | seb128, yes | 08:45 |
| seb128 | davidcalle, thanks | 08:45 |
| davidcalle | seb128, np | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:20 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, didrocks. i'm good thanks, how are you? | 09:30 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'm fine, thanks ;) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good, it's friday! :p | 09:34 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 09:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 10:43 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| Sweetshark | http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/04/05/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-3-5-2/ | 11:47 |
| Sweetshark | package is already compiling. | 11:48 |
| Sweetshark | (first time we catch up with the announcement.) | 11:48 |
| didrocks | we can see that pitti is on holidays, he only updated one package today :) | 11:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well, he replies to some emails as well :p | 11:49 |
| didrocks | yeah, but only few reply, what's happening. Souds like he really enjoys his holidays to not be more active! :) | 11:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I'm wondering if that gtk upload using proposed made me waste 3 bugs to the precise count btw | 11:52 |
| seb128 | while pitti got one which his one upload to precise :p | 11:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, I'll loose some 50 bugs again with the next unity/compiz upload if that can help you feel better :) | 11:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we might catch up on you at this rate! ;-) | 11:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: right, and I find that totally unfair :p | 11:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, I know, it's like working on a saturday when others don't ;-) | 11:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: that's sooooooooooooooooooo easy. What a deception you go to this easy path ;-) | 11:58 |
| seb128 | or friday, or whatever tomorrow is | 11:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, sorry :p | 11:58 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| didrocks | 27 on my 47 test failed on OneConf because my trivial change wasn't that trivial ;) | 13:05 |
| jibel | could anyone look at bug 966294, it breaks installation of precise on hardware or reassign to ubiquity if you think the problem lies there. | 13:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 966294 in gstreamer0.10 "Ubiquity loops forever from ubiquity_webcam_play" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966294 | 13:07 |
| matsubara | hi there, since ~2 days ago after an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, empathy contact list shows up empty for me. It seems to connect to the network but the contact list is never updated (Here's a screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z692c277mpkormh/sJHYfvVqkX/empty-empathy-contact-list.png). Could someone help me debug this? | 13:09 |
| dupondje | Some small question about unity. How can I make all 'indication' (like empathy messages and so) show on Primary screen ? | 13:12 |
| seb128 | (it's questions and complain afternoon here?) | 13:15 |
| * seb128 hides | 13:15 | |
| dupondje | we are testing the new features ;) | 13:16 |
| seb128 | jibel, good luck for finding somebody before the long w.e | 13:16 |
| seb128 | matsubara, try asking on #empathy maybe | 13:16 |
| seb128 | dupondje, try asking on #ubuntu-unity but I don't think there is | 13:16 |
| matsubara | thanks seb128 | 13:17 |
| matsubara | seb128, hmm there's only one person on that channel. Are you sure that's the right one? | 13:18 |
| seb128 | matsubara, try #telepathy, I though they had a #empathy, maybe it's on irc.gnome.org though | 13:18 |
| matsubara | thanks! | 13:19 |
| jibel | seb128, a long w.e that's plenty of time to fix this bug :) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | jibel, nice try ;-) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | jibel, we don't have any gstreamer hacker, it would be better to find somebody to workaround it or make the installer robust to webcam issues | 13:23 |
| seb128 | jibel, I would argue that it's an installer bug in any case it's getting blocked by issues with a webcam | 13:23 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|police | ||
| hallyn | oh hey! i think super key is working for me today! | 14:02 |
| hallyn | not sure if it's bc of latest updates, or if not having a background changes the timing | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | g'ah. i hate distro patches | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | can we ban them? | 14:43 |
| hallyn | hm, super-up has stopped workign for maximize | 14:43 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: ban everything! :) | 14:45 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: sure, as long as we ban upstreams that don't want to accept ubuntu-specific patches :) | 14:46 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, poke | 14:46 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, there's normally a good reason for them to not want to accept them ;) | 14:48 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: I'll refrain from commenting on that :) | 14:48 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: can I call you Chris "I like fuzzy firefox fonts" Coulson? :) | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i am updating your ubuntu-wallpaper branch for precise | 14:53 |
| didrocks | ogra_: hey hey (sorry, it's becoming more and more pingy here ;)) | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | heh | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | didrocks, i was wondering if there is any compiz branch that has the patches from debian/patches applied | 14:55 |
| didrocks | ogra_: what do you mean? some kind of full source branch? | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | producing the gles patch works fine from bzr brnaches, but i cant apply it as the top level patch in the package since there are the quilt üpatches | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | the quilt üpatches get in my way since it seems the gles patch touches files they touch too | 14:56 |
| didrocks | ogra_: ah, so it exit 1 on bzr bd-do | 14:56 |
| didrocks | right? | 14:56 |
| desrt | seb128: can you backport http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=211392 as a vendor patch and test? | 14:57 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: thanks, I wasn't going to get to that until tonight | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | well, i dont use bzr b-d atm | 14:57 |
| seb128 | desrt, yes | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | but yes, i get quilt errors | 14:57 |
| desrt | thanks | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, np | 14:57 |
| seb128 | desrt, yw | 14:57 |
| didrocks | ogra_: what I tend to do is: | 14:57 |
| didrocks | ogra_: add the patch in debian/patches | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i would like a review of my branch though :) | 14:57 |
| didrocks | not list it in the series file | 14:57 |
| didrocks | bzr bd-do | 14:57 |
| didrocks | -> all other patches applies, I'm in a full-source tree | 14:58 |
| didrocks | then add the patch (in the series files) and refresh/do what is needed | 14:58 |
| didrocks | exit 1 | 14:58 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: sure | 14:58 |
| didrocks | oupss | 14:58 |
| didrocks | exit 0 ;) | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | my prob is that i cant *create* the patch | 14:58 |
| ogra_ | because the quilt patches are out of tree | 14:59 |
| jbicha | yeah, exit 1 isn't as much fun | 14:59 |
| didrocks | ogra_: they gave you a source file, not a patch? | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | i have the linaro compiz bzr tree and i have compiz-core | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | i can produce a diff between these trees | 14:59 |
| didrocks | that should give you what we can call "the linaro patch" | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | but that diff cant be used in the package since the quilt patches inside the package change files the gles patch touches as well | 15:00 |
| didrocks | (btw, all is conditionnally built, yeah? only applying on armel as we told) | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | well, that will need some more package changes (you made your package a quilt (3.0) paqckage but didnt make any use of --with quilt) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | ogra_: well, I think they should work on what ubuntu provides and fixing the patch to apply? | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | well, thats me then :( | 15:01 |
| didrocks | ogra_: why using --with quilt? | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, https://twitter.com/#!/SolihullPolice/status/187917191822327808 | 15:01 |
| didrocks | ogra_: it's a source 3 package | 15:01 |
| didrocks | no need for that | 15:01 |
| === alan_g|police is now known as alan_g | ||
| ogra_ | didrocks, else patches you add to debian/patches and the series fiel wont get applied at build time | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | only during unpack | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | which wont help much with arch specific patches ;) | 15:02 |
| didrocks | ogra_: well, if you use --with-quilt, it will try to apply *again* the patches that were applied at unpack, isn't it? | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | well it is clever enough to not do that ;) | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | the metadata has the info that they are already applied | 15:03 |
| didrocks | ogra_: but, the unpack knows on which arch it is, right? | 15:04 |
| didrocks | ogra_: it's not using the arch trick in debian/patches/<arch>.series? | 15:04 |
| ogra_ | not if i cross build ;) | 15:04 |
| didrocks | or whatever it is, I don't remember :) | 15:04 |
| didrocks | ogra_: come on! :p | 15:04 |
| didrocks | ok starts to make sense then ;) | 15:04 |
| didrocks | ogra_: no worry for those changes then ;) | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | series.arch doesnt work without heavy hacks apparently | 15:05 |
| didrocks | so, generating the patch… | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | i tried that the last days | 15:05 |
| didrocks | ogra_: FYI, I'm taking trunk tomorrow | 15:05 |
| didrocks | yeah, let's do it at build-time then | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | my issue is that i cant create a clean patch since linaro doesnt build off a tree that has the quilt patches applied | 15:06 |
| didrocks | ogra_: snapshotting, that will remove a big patch we have (the lim stuff) | 15:06 |
| didrocks | ogra_: so we only have 3 quilt patches right now | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | right | 15:07 |
| didrocks | ubuntu-config.patch is the configuration, shouldn't matter for this patch | 15:07 |
| didrocks | ccp_plugin is a 3 lines patch, easy to integrate | 15:07 |
| didrocks | workaround_broken_drivers as well | 15:07 |
| didrocks | there is no easy way to reconcile your patch with those ones? | 15:07 |
| didrocks | (in the bzr bd-do projection) | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | dunno, i think the best way would be if linaro worked off a tree that has the quilt bits applied before they even start to make changes | 15:08 |
| didrocks | because if you are using two branches that are different and not making the right diff, you can take other fixes that happened in trnk | 15:08 |
| didrocks | and that already applied | 15:08 |
| didrocks | right | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | i see no other way to cleanly put our patch on top | 15:08 |
| didrocks | and in a reliably way | 15:09 |
| didrocks | they should merge latest trunk | 15:09 |
| didrocks | (that we will snapshot) | 15:09 |
| didrocks | ogra_: btw, did you speak with skaet about that? I would prefer her ack seeing that it's happening in the finale freeze week | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | well, she is aware though i think i have to apply it this week | 15:10 |
| didrocks | ok | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-wallpapers/lp-863509-package-old-wallpapers/+merge/100988 | 15:18 |
| Laney | how do you ensure upgraders keep their old wallpaper package installed? | 15:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, we don't and it's an annoying issue | 15:32 |
| Laney | i can't think how you can do it with package dependencies | 15:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, but not very solvable | 15:32 |
| Laney | unless they are marked manually installed | 15:32 |
| Laney | i suppose the release upgrader can do i | 15:32 |
| Laney | t | 15:32 |
| seb128 | yeah, I wanted to check with mvo | 15:32 |
| seb128 | but he's off this week | 15:32 |
| kirkland | I'm hoping I just have something mis-configured in my 12.04 desktop | 15:34 |
| kirkland | but most of the time that I hit alt-tab to switch between applications | 15:34 |
| kirkland | the unity launcher pops up | 15:34 |
| kirkland | looks like it's the alt that's triggering that | 15:34 |
| kirkland | is there *any* way I can fix that? | 15:34 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|dinner | ||
| seb128 | kirkland, is that 3d or 2d? | 15:51 |
| === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch | ||
| m4n1sh | seb128: there? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, sort of, why? | 16:12 |
| m4n1sh | there is a bug logged by someone | 16:12 |
| m4n1sh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/activity-log-manager/+bug/967056 | 16:12 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, there but about to go for some exercice, I've a few minutes though | 16:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 967056 in activity-log-manager "The privacy section should be renamed, oneiric users think confidential data is sent because there is no option to inhibit this" [Undecided,New] | 16:12 |
| m4n1sh | what about this? | 16:12 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, dunno, try pinging JohnLea or the design guy, or open an ayatana-design component on the bug | 16:13 |
| m4n1sh | okay | 16:13 |
| seb128 | but the forum guys are just randomly complaining, I'm not sure it makes change to change the lable | 16:13 |
| m4n1sh | yes. just bringing to your notice | 16:14 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916224/ | 16:17 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: I guess those were actually mistakes in my original merge, it was a pretty big patch though | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, Copyright.txt had been removed in your branch | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | it was redundant | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | i thought i had fixed that conflict | 16:29 |
| seb128 | time for exercice, bbiab | 16:29 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: well it was listed on line 221 of your merge | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | oh, whoops | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, fixed and pushed again | 16:45 |
| kirkland | seb128: 2d | 16:46 |
| gema | didrocks: are you there? | 16:51 |
| gema | didrocks: is bug 966294 in your radar? | 16:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 966294 in ubiquity "Ubiquity loops forever from ubiquity_webcam_play" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966294 | 16:52 |
| didrocks | gema: see seb128's answer to this a couple of hours ago ^ | 16:53 |
| gema | didrocks: I don't see any answer from him, what's his name? | 16:54 |
| gema | or better, comment # | 16:54 |
| === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara | ||
| gema | seb128: are you working on bug 966294? | 16:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 966294 in ubiquity "Ubiquity loops forever from ubiquity_webcam_play" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966294 | 16:58 |
| gema | didrocks: this bug is a release blocker, from my viewpoint, I don't see any evidence of what we are doing for it | 16:59 |
| gema | didrocks: but if you guys cannot fix it, the foundations team need to avoid it by removing the camera screen | 17:00 |
| gema | on the installer | 17:00 |
| gema | didrocks: I'd like to know your take sooner rather than later | 17:00 |
| didrocks | gema: you didn't scrollback or look at IRC logs? | 17:00 |
| * didrocks is already following 6 conversations about unity critical bugs | 17:00 | |
| gema | ah, I thought you meant on the defect | 17:00 |
| didrocks | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/05/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t13:07 | 17:01 |
| gema | didrocks: it is not an installer bug, cheese doesn't work either in the systems where this installer problem happens | 17:03 |
| gema | didrocks: so people are not going to be able to use their cameras with precise | 17:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm liking the new wallpapers in precise, except most of them make my launcher look like turd :( | 17:03 |
| didrocks | gema: as seb128 noticed we don't have people knowing gstreamer | 17:03 |
| gema | didrocks: ok | 17:04 |
| gema | didrocks: I will talk to cjwatson then to see what happens with the installer | 17:04 |
| gema | didrocks: thanks for trying :) | 17:04 |
| didrocks | gema: sorry for not being much of help ;) (and not being responsive, ETOOMANYPINGS) | 17:04 |
| gema | didrocks: cannot fix is as good answer as any, not having an answer is the bad part, thanks ! | 17:05 |
| didrocks | gema: yw ;) | 17:06 |
| cjwatson | sigh - well, nothing from me until after Easter now anyway | 17:06 |
| cjwatson | I think that's very unfortunate, it's after UI freeze and removing features may be no less bad than trying to add them | 17:06 |
| cjwatson | we can look next week at making it timeout, although I stand by my comment that that may be not such an unrisky thing to attempt as QA suggests | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | I should clarify that the webcam screen was a design requirement, not a foundations requirement | 17:14 |
| cjwatson | (https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/Doc?docid=0AU5sFuLRpCpBZGZra2pqY2pfMTAxZ25rcnBnNXY&hl=en_US&pli=1#_Take_a_picture_55548248461894_7575857748743147) | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | seb128, when you get back can you take a look at ubuntu-wallpapers? it's in binNEW | 17:23 |
| * kenvandine goes to get some food | 17:23 | |
| didrocks | ok, time for some exercice, have a nice week-end for those having one, and see you tomorrow for the others :) | 17:30 |
| === MacSlow|dinner is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | re | 18:03 |
| seb128 | kirkland, 3d works better for that, but well with the next version the hud key will be customisable so you will be able to move it away from alt | 18:04 |
| seb128 | gema, no I'm not, we don't have anyone knowing gstreamer here and it's a 4 days w.e for most of the team tonight | 18:04 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, it's hard to find one that looks good and have a nice color picked for the unity ui | 18:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I blame a bit desrt for that :p before the value was in gsettings and possible to tweak :p | 18:06 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 18:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, wallpapers newed | 18:07 |
| kenvandine | thx | 18:07 |
| matsubara | kirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/947468 | 18:07 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry reading backlog in order :p | 18:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 947468 in unity-2d "Alt summoning of heads-up-display interferes with Emacs" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:07 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:07 |
| kenvandine | odd, just got back from lunch by i feel hungry, must resist the urge to snack | 18:07 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, your lunch was probably too healthy | 18:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you need a burger with extra cheese or something :p | 18:08 |
| kenvandine | seb128, that would have been better! | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, https://twitter.com/#!/chrisccoulson/status/187949938225856515 | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | the color looks pretty horrible with all of them tbh :( | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | it's clear that the average of brown with a bit of orange is going to be.......... well, crap ;) | 18:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just putting precise on jo's laptop now :) | 18:18 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: does she know you're doing that? | 18:20 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, she knows that i'm doing something with it, as i've just swapped the hard drive out of it ;) | 18:21 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: I got tired of hearing my wife talk about oneiric bugs, but I think she'll stay with precise LTS for a while | 18:24 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: what was she running before? | 18:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how did you change them? | 18:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the color I mean | 18:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, in ccsm ;) | 18:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh; that's going away in the next upload | 18:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seriously? :( | 18:57 |
| chrisccoulson | can we fix the color averaging then? it looks horrible with pretty much every wallpaper i use :( | 18:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, desrt's fault, he pushed for gnome-desktop the compute the medium color value and put it as an x property | 18:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, so unity doesn't have to read the file as well and redo stuff | 18:57 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: what was your wife running before precise? | 18:58 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, oneiric | 18:58 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, gord had an update for gnome-desktop today, it only takes the left half of the wallpaper for the computation now but I don't think it's going to do much of a difference | 18:58 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: ah, cool. mine is too...guess I should upgrade her soon. | 18:59 |
| mdeslaur | (before she does it herself) | 18:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, we should maybe get a gsettings key for a factor used in the computation or something | 18:59 |
| mdeslaur | com.canonical.Unity.anything_but_brown | 19:00 |
| gord | chrisccoulson, seb128 - for what its worth, that ccsm option will still work :) it'll override what libgnome-desktop colour - its a useful ccsm option for testing | 19:01 |
| chrisccoulson | gord, ok, that's good. that means i can still have it black :) | 19:02 |
| gord | we should really have a "paint it black" option | 19:02 |
| seb128 | gord, oh, nice | 19:02 |
| mdeslaur | com.canonical.Unity.any_color_you_want_as_long_as_its_black | 19:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, better than "ubuntu" don't we have a "null" component? ;-) | 19:26 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, good point. that bug was doing my head in | 19:27 |
| chrisccoulson | https://twitter.com/#!/chrisccoulson/status/187983922351714305 ;) | 19:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to close twitter for a bit! | 19:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you got twitter addict! | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | right, jo's laptop is up and running again | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | now to try and debug this freeze i get when i undock my own laptop :) | 19:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, let's see how long it will take before you get yelled at for the precise issues ;-) | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | yay, --> null :-) | 19:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, speaking about debugging non firefox,tb issues, should I reassign the desktop bugs assigned to you to somebody else? or do you still want to get to them eventually? | 19:29 |
| seb128 | lol | 19:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i'll try and look at those :) | 19:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok ;-) I read some comments about bug #917598 online this week and I was wondering if we should address it for precise and if it should be reassigned | 19:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 917598 in gnome-settings-daemon "batterie low warning notification uses fallback dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917598 | 19:31 |
| jbicha | any ideas for what's gone wrong in bug 967978 ? | 19:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 967978 in gnome-control-center "missing "apply system-wide" in network>proxy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967978 | 19:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, yes, it's buggy | 19:34 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks for asking about it | 19:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, that's an easy one for me to do | 19:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll do it after i've had a go at figuring out this undock issue :) | 19:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that would be great if you could get it done for precise ;-) | 19:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, please do :p | 19:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I don't dare to close my lid when I dock my laptop or to undock it if not suspended nowadays ;-) | 19:35 |
| seb128 | jbicha, sorry I will get back to you soon when tb decide to behave | 19:37 |
| Laney | it is supposed to only appear if you're an admin | 19:37 |
| seb128 | ok, 0 tb - 1 google | 19:38 |
| seb128 | I wish apps would have google search foo | 19:38 |
| Laney | which basically means that the user is in "admin" group | 19:38 |
| seb128 | jbicha, Laney: so the g-c-c patch check for "admin" membership but precise changed to use "sudo" like debian instead | 19:39 |
| seb128 | so the patch need to be updated to check for both | 19:39 |
| seb128 | ie bug #893842 | 19:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 893842 in policykit-1 "Move "admin" group to "sudo"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893842 | 19:39 |
| seb128 | jbicha, can you do it? | 19:39 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you still need to keep the "admin" check for upgrades | 19:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it works for you because you upgraded | 19:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what about bug #857168, it's still on your list, do you know if that's still an issue? | 19:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 857168 in totem "totem doesn't inhibit the screen blanking as it should" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857168 | 19:41 |
| seb128 | jbicha, btw could you drop the canberra login sound from the startup capplet again now that we turned login sound off by default? it's the only stuff showing up there | 19:42 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, ^ could you do the same for the evolution-alarm-calendar notification stuff? it's not by default but it should probably be also hidden | 19:42 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2365705/+listing-archive-extra | 19:44 |
| seb128 | others as well ^ | 19:44 |
| seb128 | new gtk with a patch from upstream "Don't call gdk_window_process_updates() when scrolling" | 19:44 |
| seb128 | it would have scrolling regressions I would appreciate testing | 19:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, could you test in gwibber? | 19:44 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | cool, that is what cimi was complaining about | 19:45 |
| seb128 | that's to optimize smooth scrolling not being smooth | 19:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, right, I'm just a bit concerned it has side effect :p | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | i'll test asap | 19:46 |
| seb128 | thanks | 19:46 |
| kenvandine | seb128, seems fine in gwibber, gedit, gnome-terminal and empathy | 19:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks! did you notice any improvement? | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | not really | 19:50 |
| kenvandine | but to be fair, i've never really noticed a slow down :) | 19:50 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you need slower hardware :p | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | seb128, shhhh.. don't tell my wife she won't let me upgrade :) | 19:56 |
| dobey | why the heck do i have to "ssh localhost" on my workstation all the time, before my laptop will ssh into it? makes no sense | 19:57 |
| kenvandine | dobey, indeed, that makes now sense | 19:58 |
| dobey | seb128: the slow scrolling in gwibber is unrelated to gtk+ scroll api :) | 19:59 |
| kenvandine | dobey, indeed | 19:59 |
| kenvandine | dobey, as always, you are correct :) | 20:00 |
| dobey | heh | 20:00 |
| seb128 | dobey, right, but I didn't want to make it buggy in addition to be slow ;-) | 20:00 |
| dobey | hehe | 20:00 |
| cyphermox_ | seb128: you mean alarm sound? | 20:00 |
| cyphermox_ | if so, sure, I'll also upload the "fix" for the alarm notify unreadable dialog too | 20:01 |
| jbicha | seb128: I think the login sound should still be in Startup Applications until the on/off switch gets added to System Settings | 20:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's the only stuff listed there and it looks stupid, there was a good case to turn off but I think there less one to turn login sound on | 20:03 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, no, can you run gnome-session-properties, do you have an evo item listed? | 20:04 |
| cyphermox_ | well yeah, /usr/lib/evolution/3.2/evolution-alarm-notify | 20:04 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, right, no "sound" in there I think | 20:05 |
| cyphermox_ | you want that hidden? | 20:05 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, what do you think? we did hide all the other "services" to only list softwares the user add, i.e xchat, pidgin, etc | 20:05 |
| cyphermox_ | I think it might trigger a sound when it appears, though last time I got reminders I don't recall hearing anything | 20:05 |
| cyphermox_ | seb128: yeah, I think it probably could be hidden | 20:05 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, it just confuses user to have system stuff there | 20:05 |
| cyphermox_ | it's not installed by default though | 20:06 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, good, please add a NoDisplay in the next upload ;-) | 20:06 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, still it confuses user to have services in the startup softwares | 20:06 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, so we can hide it | 20:06 |
| cyphermox_ | yup | 20:06 |
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| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks | 20:07 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok I guess I'll hide the login sound option then, you're just lucky that I didn't mention it in ubuntu-docs. Then you would have been stuck with it! | 20:08 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ;-) | 20:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 20:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did the sudo group stuff made sense to you btw? | 20:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I can have a look next week if you don't get to it, but didrocks plans an upload and works tomorrow and monday so maybe you can bribe him to include a fix for that ;-) | 20:09 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes I believe so | 20:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I'm off from soon to next tuesday (though I might be around a bit tomorrow) | 20:10 |
| jbicha | seb128: enjoy the weekend | 20:11 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks! | 20:11 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you also get friday and monday off in the u.s? | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung, re bug 971525, why are extensions coming from debian that are installing things in to /usr/lib/firefox? it breaks our firefox package :( | 20:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 971525 in esteid-browser-plugin "Please remove esteid-browser-plugin from the archive urgently, as it trashes our Firefox package (was firefox-locale-fi: User Interface completely in English)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/971525 | 20:14 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, my | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | so, it was actually the reporter of the bug who packaged it! | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | that's great | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | 1) Package extension which breaks Firefox package in Ubuntu | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | 2) Report bug against Firefox package in Ubuntu after i broke it | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | fantastic | 20:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's time for one of those strong beers ;-) | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | i feel like it :) | 20:17 |
| jbicha | seb128: I'm actually working for a bit on Saturday even! | 20:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, oh :-( good luck then! | 20:17 |
| jbicha | when I was in the Navy, we didn't officially get time off for Easter as it's more of a religious holiday I guess | 20:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, isn't that a national holiday in the u.s? or does it work by states? | 20:18 |
| jbicha | no official federal holidays from mid-February until the end of May :( | 20:18 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, are you an archive admin? | 20:19 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, sort of yes | 20:19 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well the "sort of" is to let me an escape road :p | 20:19 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, can you do removals then? or do i need to bug somebody else? ;) | 20:19 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I can do removals, though I would prefer you bug slangasek on #ubuntu-release or whoever accepted the source if that was recent | 20:20 |
| jbicha | I don't think it's a govt holiday for any of the States, I believe the USPS will still deliver mail like normal on Monday | 20:20 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, quite a different culture and system here, it's not always easy to compare ;-) | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah no holiday for me | 20:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, didrocks feel less alone ;-) | 20:22 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: do you have to follow the US schedule? how do Canonical holidays work? | 20:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, was that source recently newed? I just wanted to know who newed it and why, I'm happy to delete it for you in a few minutes if nobody replies on devel | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, we follow government holidays | 20:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, apparently it wasn't sync'd from debian | 20:24 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, i'm reading devel while looking for popcorn :-) | 20:24 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure why it was accepted by anyone. it's quite well accepted that we no longer accept firefox extensions in to the archive :( | 20:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it's arch: any and appeared to be an NPAPI plugin | 20:25 |
| bdrung | chrisccoulson: mozilla-devscripts doesn't put stuff into /usr/lib/firefox | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung, yeah, sorry, it's not your problem ;) | 20:27 |
| bdrung | chrisccoulson: are you talking about an extension or about a plugin? | 20:28 |
| chrisccoulson | bdrung, it's an extension | 20:28 |
| bdrung | chrisccoulson: then complain to the package to use mozilla-devscripts. ;) | 20:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, deleted | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, excellent, thanks | 20:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yw | 20:30 |
| markgifford | I have precise beta 2 and unity 5.8. I don't seem to be able to turn off certain icons on the top panel e.g. (Bluetooth) despite seeing blog posts a month back saying it's now possible. is this something i should wait for 5.10 and hope it's fixed? | 20:46 |
| markgifford | I'm happy to edit conf files rather than doing it via the GUI, if that's what's needed. If so, which files define what appears in that top panel? | 20:48 |
| davidcalle | markgifford, do you have dconf-editor installed? | 20:52 |
| seb128 | markgifford, why do you need icons to be turned off from the ui? do you lack horizontal space? | 20:53 |
| markgifford | davidcalle, yes I do. Can I use that to edit the top panel? seb128, no not for space reasons, mainly for aesthetics, and because this one Bluetooth one didn't seem to be functioning correctly. Right-click > Turn off Bluetooth never did anything | 20:56 |
| seb128 | markgifford, do you use unity? right click is the same as left click in unity | 20:57 |
| markgifford | Now I've just actually opened up the full dialog box and flipped the on-off "switch" in the UI and now the Bluetooth icon is greyed out | 20:57 |
| markgifford | seb128, Ah OK. Well, left click on icon and then Bluetooth Settings | 20:57 |
| davidcalle | markgifford, you can, look in com.canonical.indicator | 20:58 |
| markgifford | Now that I've got used to how it works I think I'm OK with it! I just now need to find out how to edit what appears in the indicator menu | 20:58 |
| markgifford | Can these items under the envelope icon be edited using dconf-editor? Things like the default "Set up mail..." (I use webmail rather than desktop client)? | 21:00 |
| seb128 | no | 21:01 |
| seb128 | markgifford, try asking on #ubuntu-unity, you can create file somewhere in .local I think | 21:01 |
| markgifford | OK, will do. I think I'll have more of a play with dconf-editor too. Thx for the help guys | 21:02 |
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