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adam_gwin 1701:36
stgraberhallyn: would you consider adding shutdown.conf to lxcguest in the ppa for lucid?03:49
Zac_o_Ohello!  The drives on my server spin up every time a windows PC on the network is woken up from sleep.  This PC backs up over SMB.  How can I make this not happen?04:08
Zac_o_OIt's driving me crazy!04:13
twbnot spinning them down would be one way04:16
twbMaking sure the windows PC is speaking DNS to the DNS resolver, instead of speaking NetBIOS to the samba server, might help.04:17
twbIt depends why it's talking to the server on resume04:17
Zac_o_Ohow would i know if it's speaking DNS?04:20
twbyou go into its registry somewhere04:20
twbIIRC DNS is the default since about vista04:20
twbPrior to that it would prefer netbios04:21
twb##windows probably can help with that04:21
twbAnd/or do packet sniffing04:21
Zac_o_Oah.  ok.  is there anything I can do on the server side?04:21
twb14:21 <twb> And/or do packet sniffing04:21
Zac_o_Ohm.  so no change in a smb config file eh?04:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #973953 in nova (main) "euca-describe-instance returns error VolumeNotFound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97395304:41
koolhead17morning all05:03
Zac_o_Omorning?  late here :)05:05
koolhead17Zac_o_O: i am in India :P05:09
lynxmanmorning o/07:46
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jasonmsphey all.  I've installed munin and nagios on our server. Its been great.  But I would like to see which programs are contributing most to the CPU%.  Is there a way to do this with, or without either of these?09:00
lynxmanjasonmsp: I reckon something like this might be useful http://serverfault.com/questions/185804/monitor-and-graph-cpu-usage-per-process-and-per-thread09:02
lynxmanjasonmsp: unfortunately there's no such default plugin for munin, so as it says on the post, enabling process accounting then writing a very quick munin plugin would be the most convenient option09:02
jasonmsplynxman: thanks09:04
lynxmanjasonmsp: my pleasure :)09:05
Oxygen02hello everyone. Running ubuntu-server 12.04LTS beta. I've to add a repo to the sources.list deb http://repo.percona.com/apt lenny main. is it lenny or?...09:10
Oxygen02cat /etc/debian-version shows me something different.09:10
Oxygen02it shows. wheezy/sid  What shoud I add as repo? anyone?09:12
__sjhlo all, just tried in #ubuntu to no avail, its kinda noisy, figured i'd try here too:09:41
__sjhloha, using 10.04, trying to change locale have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale, but after running update-locale lang=en_GB.UTF-8, relogged, then run locale, now i see LANG= .... and nothing else, any ideas? ... just noticed i give en_GB.UTF-8 to locale-gen, but locale -a reports en_GB.utf8, any significance to that?09:41
__sjhif anyone is listening, if i login as root I get the locale i want, but as a normal user i dont ... any ideas how that could happen following on from previous comment?10:20
Viveknick58b: Are you around ?10:49
Viveknick58b: Please do check your pm.10:50
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uvirtbotNew bug: #974172 in lxc (universe) "lxc-ls show duplicated names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97417212:01
Rapid2214Hi, does anyone have a HP NC375T PCI Express Quad Port Gigabit Server Adapter working in a bond > bridge ? My bond works with my internal NICs but a bond on this card fails - I have seen bug reports but cannot find drivers to replace it13:10
patdk-wkRapid2214, should work fine, you have more details?13:19
Rapid2214Its using the netxen_nic - Im using bond > Bridge with VLANS - The bond I have works with my VMs if I am not using this NIC, thanks :)13:21
Rapid2214Onboard drivers are using the bnx2 drivers13:25
Rapid2214From mii-tool: SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth5' failed: Operation not supported13:29
hallynstgraber: sure (shutdown.conf in lucid lxcguest) - note lxcguest is purely in ppa in lucid, btw13:32
hallynhm, my backgrounds have gone away and been replaced by way too bright ones.  So I'm back to a black background.  Old times!13:46
hallynstgraber: ok i'll go ahead and push shutdown.conf to lxcguest in lucid today.13:47
hallynit's definately not going into upstart there?13:48
stgraberhallyn: thanks13:48
stgraberhallyn: no, it's a new "feature" so won't ever get into an update13:48
hallynis it?  i would consider it a bugfix :)13:48
stgraberhehe, I guess you could argue that ;)13:49
stgraberif you want to be safe, rename it to lxc-shutdown.conf to avoid potential conflicts13:49
hallyngood point13:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #974256 in nova (main) "Exception during the installation of Nova Essex-rc4 on Ubuntu 12.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97425614:02
jcastromatsubara: any testing feedback from people? I have one14:02
matsubarajcastro, nope14:02
hallynstgraber: pushed14:04
jdstrandSpamapS: hi! what are your plans with mysql-5.1 in precise? it is currently in universe and trails behind oneiric. I thought I remembered reading it was going to be removed14:33
smoserrbasak, around ?14:41
rbasaksmoser: yes14:42
smoseryou think you migh thave time to improve the fix for bug 971820 ?14:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 971820 in squid-deb-proxy "squid-deb-proxy needs special handling of Release, Packages, Source" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97182014:42
smoseri'm concerned that what we have there does not really fix the development release issue.14:42
rbasakI'd love to but I need to better understand how it's broken first14:42
smoserso you think that the change you put in makes squid check the source headers versus what it has cached, right?14:43
smoserwhat headers explicitly does it check ?14:43
rbasakI don't know - squid calls it a "refresh" and supposedly does the right thing14:44
rbasakI can investigate that14:44
smoserwell, whatever it does, i had a case where the server had new stuff, but squid was caching old stuff.14:45
smoser(and the old stuff was bad)14:45
rbasakwhat were the timestamps?14:45
smoserone possibility is that the server is busted. that it does not correctly update those timestamp.s14:45
smoseryeah... it sucks.14:45
smoseri'm  abad bug report14:45
smoseri know14:45
rbasakAs in had the server's new stuff really gone up in timestamp, and was the previous fetch with a previous timestamp14:46
rbasakI've got one thought about this14:46
rbasakI could run a cron job14:46
smoseri stopped trying to find the correct fix after losing 2 hours on it. and realizing that orchestra had done the deny business.14:46
smoserthe one thought i had is to just hard code the development release to deny14:46
smoserbut let others go to cache14:46
rbasakThat hits the archive with squid and without squid (with current squid-deb-proxy) and lots the timestamps and md5s14:47
smoseroh, and always deny -updates and -security14:47
rbasaklogs14:47
smoserright. to catch it.14:47
smoserthat would be good.14:47
rbasakyep14:47
rbasakthen we'd also hopefully have the timestamp information which should help pin it down14:47
smoserbut the hack of "if devel release, or -updates or -security or -backports, then deny"14:48
SpamapSjdstrand: yes, it should be removed. I beliee the rdeps are all gone.14:48
smoserwould cache the largest hunk of data (as the main repo is the biggest by far)14:48
SpamapSjdstrand: believe.. even14:48
SpamapSjdstrand: re mysql 5.114:48
rbasakdoes the dev archive tend to move as fast over the weekend as it does during the day?14:49
jdstrandSpamapS: would you mind double checking that, and filing a bug for its removal?14:49
smoserrbasak, just make sure you store the headers that you get back in both requeswts. and i think you'll get enoug hinfo to catch it.14:49
smoseroh, and you might as well pin your server too14:49
jdstrandSpamapS: feel free to assign it to me14:49
smoserie, avoid the round-robin failures.14:49
SpamapSjdstrand: looks like libmyodbc and sphinxsearch are the last hold-outs.. will investigate today14:50
jdstrandSpamapS: awesome, thanks!14:50
rbasaksmoser: I'm going to leave archive.u.c unpinned. I'll test ports.u.c in parallel which is effectively pinned because there is only one. That gives us both because I want to understand how well it works unpinned as well. I will only be donwloading the files - not giving them to apt - so the Release/Packages mismatch won't matter.14:52
rbasaksmoser: do you think I need to download the whole file for the non-cached version, or will a direct HEAD request do? I think we can trust the E-Tag, can't we?14:53
smoserbut ports.u.c gets updated less frequently i suspect.14:53
smoserping the host14:53
smoseryou'll get random failures we're not trying to address if you do not.14:53
smoserrbasak, i dont know. i think yo might need to download the file14:53
smoserto verify that it is different.14:53
smoseri guess the headers shoudl tell you that.14:54
smoserbut the only way i can explain the issue is bad headers.14:54
rbasaksmoser: what makes you think it was a squid issue rather than a mirror out of sync with itself?14:57
smoserbecause if i used check-archive at the same time, it was fine14:57
smoserand, actually... i tried to get check-archive to fail going through squid, but could not.14:58
smoserthe reason for that is the way that check-archive works. it resolves the IP address and sets 'Host: ' header.14:58
smoserso squid didn't then recognize that 'http://archive.u.c' was the same as what check-archive was asking for.14:58
smoserand check-archive got a refreshed versions.14:59
smoseri debugged that a bit, but in squids logs, check-archive's hits were logged by server IP address, where the 'apt-get update' was getting dns name.15:00
jcastrorobbiew: best MAAS comment so far: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/rufub/metal_as_a_service_canonical_announces_ubuntu/15:02
chmacI'm seeing incredibly slow disk performance on one of our servers hosted with OVH.15:04
robbiewjcastro: heh15:04
chmacI'm not sure how to investigate. Looking at the output of `sudo iostat -k 15 12` shows disk writes about 500K/s.15:04
chmacAny suggestions on how I can debug what's causing the slow disk access?15:05
chmaccpu utilisation looks like 25% iowate, 75% idle15:05
Rapid2214chmac: Is it a VM? or dedicated?15:09
chmacRapid2214: Dedicated hardware, two SATA2 2T disks running software raid15:09
Rapid2214Have you checked for a degraded disk? /proc/mdstat ?15:10
chmacRapid2214: Not sure how to read the output, nothing screams error to me...15:11
chmacI sent the smartctl output of each disk to the host, but waiting for a response, also not sure how to read that.15:11
Rapid2214chmac: [UU] means both disks are good15:12
chmacRapid2214: Both disks are good15:12
Rapid2214anything in dmesg?15:12
chmacRapid2214: Anything I could grep for? Not familiar with the output, so not sure what to look for...15:14
chmacRapid2214: Thanks a lot for your help btw, I'm at a bit of a loss on this one.15:16
Rapid2214chmac: Would be obvious, if anything was wrong, constant messages is a tail tail sign, any processes in perticular which are using high wait? Is it a new server? Or has it been in use a while? No probs :)15:16
chmacRapid2214: It's a reasonably new server, I think we've had the issue since it was brought online.15:17
chmacRapid2214: dmesg looks good to me, `tail -f /var/log/dmesg` doesn't show anything new being added.15:17
chmacRapid2214: The issue seems to be primarily with MySQL because it's the biggest user of disks.15:18
chmacRapid2214: I had thought to try some kind of test copying data between partitions just to see what's going on.15:18
Rapid2214chmac: I have a MySQL server on software raid, personally i wouldn't recommend it, but 20% is terrible for that application tbf - What does # hdparm -tT /dev/<your-main-disk>  ----- return?15:19
Rapid2214*isn't terrible15:20
chmacRapid2214: Ok, I think I'm onto a red herring, I just copied a 2G file from one partition to another and saw one report of 40M/s to md215:25
chmacSeems like it's an issue with MySQL somehow then, that's what got me started on this, mysql is abysmally slow.15:25
chmacAlthough, a 2G file takes longer on this machine than on another single disk machine of a much lower spec (ram/cpu).15:26
Rapid2214chmac: Humm yeh, thats the issue I seem to have, its a backup server so it's not so important - good luck15:27
chmacRapid2214: Same here, it's also a backup machine.15:27
chmacRapid2214: You have the same issue where mysql is abysmally slow on software raid?15:27
Rapid2214chmac: Its noticeably slower with high waits, Im on software raid, but have put it down to old SCSI disks - I'm gonna be virtualising it soon15:29
chmacRapid2214: It took me >1hr to import a 1.7M file that takes <2 minutes on our primary server, and 8m on a crappy £17 a month dedicated box.15:29
chmacRapid2214: The mysql slave is 44h behind master :-(15:29
Rapid2214chmac: That is impressive, have you been using mk toolkit?15:33
chmacRapid2214: I'd like to install mk_hearbeat, but wasn't aware of the toolkit15:34
Rapid2214chmac: Its quite good, it allows checksum checks, and sync to fix replication issues15:38
Rapid2214chmac: Its quite good, it allows checksum checks, and sync to fix replication issues15:39
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PhotoJimnormally Ubuntu does that shallow reboot that lets it do a kernel reload on server edition.  but how do you force a proper full reboot, if desired?15:59
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mgwfor use in d-i partman, how can I determine the partition id (for a raid recipe)?16:05
smoserPhotoJim, i'd look in the kexec-tools man pages16:06
mgwe.g., in this example it uses sdX1, sdX5, etc16:07
mgwhttp://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/apbs04.html16:07
smoserPhotoJim, 'coldreboot'16:08
smoserholy crap.16:08
smoserand i just look at the implementation of that.16:08
smoserit looks like it can easily be changed by /etc/default/kexec, but as it is16:09
smoserNOKEXECFILE=/tmp/no-kexec-reboot16:09
smoserany user can touch that file, and next reboot will not be kexec.16:10
PhotoJimsmoser: thanks much.16:11
PhotoJimk16:11
smoserPhotoJim, but the right way is to use 'coldreboot'16:11
PhotoJimsmoser: greatly appreciated.16:11
mgwpartman-auto-raid: mdadm: device /dev/sda5 not suitable for any style of array16:31
mgwany ideas what exactly that means? Here is my preseed:16:32
mgwhttps://gist.github.com/d3be3b4e2b5a9ec9221a16:32
Rapid2214mgw: Has the superblock been cleared?16:33
mgwHow would I know?16:34
mgwI don't see anything about superblocks in rsyslog16:35
Rapid2214Oh, i don't know that program, but i would imagine it could be something like that16:35
Rapid2214mgw: Does the program run inside of a running ubuntu box?16:37
mgwno, it's a preseed16:37
mgwfor the installer16:37
mgwthere's no OS on the system at all16:38
Rapid2214Oh ok, do you get any other errors before that one?16:38
hallynsmb: sorry... to be clear, I should add https://launchpadlibrarian.net/99981918/no-vfb-for-hvm.debdiff  to my next libvirt push?16:40
smbhallyn, Yes, sorry for the confusion. We now agree to agree.16:40
hallynok16:43
zulhallyn:  404 on the libvirt-rbd debdiff16:47
hallynhm16:53
hallynzul: retry?16:54
zulhallyn: got it now16:55
hallynzul: weird thing is it had a one-letter typo, but it was all done with cut/paste!16:55
hallynperplexing16:55
zulhallyn: doesnt the ceph stuff need to be enabled in libvirt?16:55
hallyn<shrug>16:55
hallyni don't get why they want it16:56
hallynmaybe they just want to have a ppa with it enabled but with exact same source as the archive version?16:56
hallynor maybe it does make a difference16:56
hallynthey said it makes their testsuite pass16:56
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zulo...k16:57
hallynack16:57
zulwell if it doesnt mess with anything sure why not16:58
hallynright, it takes a few hours away from me but other than that is fine16:58
hallyn(i'm using the rig on which i was going to start the kvm perf tests, to run regression test)16:58
hallyns/rig/wussie laptop/16:59
zulheh...im ok with it check with daviey16:59
hallynyup, i did16:59
hallynthx16:59
zulSpamapS: around?17:05
zulSpamapS: unping17:05
SpamapSzul: mooping17:09
zulSpamapS: i think i have a juju problem17:09
zulSpamapS: i have a ec2 keypair that i use for instances on openstack that doesnt seem to being used when i do juju status17:10
esuaveis there a way i can lock the crontab while im editing, so nobody else can edit the same crontab and overwrite my changes?17:10
SpamapSzul: how did you tell juju about them?17:15
SpamapSzul: and, maybe -> #juju ?17:15
zulhold on17:15
hallynesuave: i thought crontab in olden days used to flock...  i suppose you could wrap crontab in a script that flocks a file to make that happen17:15
esuavehallyn: yeah.. ill have to check it out17:16
esuavehallyn: running 8.0417:16
hallynesuave: it doesn't do it in 12.04 either.  by olden days i was thinking sunos 4.x17:16
esuaveahh.. yeah thats a pisser.. cause while im editing.. someone else can edit the same crontab and overwrite my changes if they finish after me17:17
stgraberhallyn: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Q/Plenaries with details on the LXC plenary, I'll probably poke you to review the details when I start preparing it17:20
hallynlxc plenery?17:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #974450 in irqbalance (main) "irqbalance classifies network interfaces with custom/renamed interfaces as class other" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97445017:21
hallynstgraber: cool, thanks :)17:21
esuaveok so im trying to create an alias.. is there a way i can do an IF this file exists.. execute this command?17:33
esuavelike alias='if /home/test.txt exists; execute crontab -e'17:34
esuavei just dont know they syntax lol17:34
esuavethe* not they17:34
MarKsaitisso can somebody help me? Or nobody knows a solution? I have vnc4server (tried tightvncserver too) installed, using hidden virtual desktops (the default). When I click logoff in my session, IT DOESNT DO A DAMN THING, DOESNT LOGOFF! FTW? Ubuntu 11.04 LXDE!!!17:36
MarKsaitisI bet nobody knows, as usual17:39
patdk-wkhmm, this is the server channel, we don't deal in gui17:39
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hallyni wonder...17:41
hallyn!gui17:41
ubottuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)17:41
hallynnot *particularly* helpful17:42
hallynlooks like #lxde is on irc.oftc.net17:42
zulutlemming: ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/916324/ whats nov.ec2?17:51
utlemmingzul: I have no idea...what's your cloud-config look like?17:53
zul/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg?17:54
utlemmingzul: /var/lib/instance/cloud-config.txt17:54
utlemminger.../var/lib/cloud/instance/cloud-config.txt17:54
zulutlemming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916337/17:56
zulutlemming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916324/ is the console-log, this is running on openstack as well17:57
utlemmingzul: can you get me the output of "ec2metadata" (scrub appropriately)17:59
uvirtbotNew bug: #912267 in python-keystoneclient (universe) "[MIR] python-keystoneclient" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91226718:01
zulutlemming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916349/18:03
utlemmingzul: at face value, this is a bug in cloud-init18:07
zulutlemming: yeah18:07
zulutlemming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916324/18:32
zuldoh..18:32
zulutlemming: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/97450918:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 974509 in cloud-init "Issues resolving ubuntu archives." [Undecided,New]18:32
hallynjdstrand: in http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/libvirt/qatest.tar.bz2 for qa-regression-testing, the qatest.xml really shouldn't have <emulator>/usr/bin/qemu</emulator>18:37
smoserzul, use opendns or google dns18:37
smoser8.8.8.818:37
zulsmoser: yeah18:38
smoseri did know of this potential issue whe i did this.18:38
smoserdns redirectors suck18:38
smoseroh. shoot. you're not even hitting the bug i programmed for.18:40
smoseryou can pass cloud-config to specify apt_mirror and it wont do that.18:40
smoseror you can fix your dns.18:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #974509 in cloud-init (main) "Issues resolving ubuntu archives." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97450918:41
utlemmingsmoser: he's canadian18:41
utlemmingand that means he has rogers isp, which is know for crappy DNS games18:41
smoseras are others.18:42
smoserbut you can set what you use.18:42
smoser8.8.8.8 will not give you such bogus stuff18:42
smoserneither will opendns18:42
utlemmingopendns does now...I stopped using them becuase of that18:44
utlemminghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/916401/18:45
jdstrandhallyn: re the emulator line> how come?18:45
hallynjdstrand: bc /usr/bin/qemu doesn't exist any more18:46
hallynthough maybe we have to explicitly use qemu-system-i38618:47
jdstrandtest_emulators() in test-libvirt.py will need to be adjusted as well18:47
hallyndat18:48
hallyndrat18:48
hallyni don't suppose that could be related to test_guest_aa_attach_detach_physical hanging18:48
jdstrandI would expect massive failures if the emulator was wrong18:49
jdstrandhallyn: this is going to have to be changed in a way that is compatible going to lucid. one way to do that would be to conditionally update the xml on 12.04 and higher18:50
peter_hi all.. i got a bunch of servers running ubuntu all giving disk speeds of 30mb/s then i noticed that installs with my newer template gives 130mb/s.. just can seem to find the reason behind this. all are running the same ubuntu server version+kernel. must be some module or config? they are xenserver virtualized. any pointers/help appreaciated18:50
jdstrandhallyn: that could be done in LibvirtTestCommon::_setUp()18:51
hallynjdstrand: the <emulator> line really shouldn't ever have been all that important...  qemu-kvm picks /usr/bin/kvm if it exists18:51
hallynmaybe _setUp() should just create the qemu symlink :)18:51
jdstrandhallyn: well, maybe... but this dates back to karmic18:51
jdstrandhallyn: yeah, that could happen too18:52
hallynjdstrand: any advice on test_guest_aa_attach_detach_physical() hanging?18:55
jdstrandhallyn: it hangs forever? there is a 30 second sleep in there19:08
hallynjdstrand: no, virsh -c qemu:///system attach-interface qatest-i386 network default --mac 52:00:00:00:00:00  actually hangs forever19:09
hallyni was thinking it was the script, but it's just the virsh action hanging19:09
hallynchecking git log...19:09
jdstrandhallyn: that was going to be my next suggestion (checking virsh)19:09
Daneil54hi19:12
hallynrecon 'virNetSocketReadWire:996 : End of file while reading data: Input/output error' is involved19:13
hallynactually maybe this is where the command.c patch i was going to put in but hadn't yet would help.19:13
jdstrandexit19:13
jdstrandheh19:13
Daneil54i have a probleme with subversion19:13
Daneil54can someone help please19:13
Daneil54?19:13
hallynDaniel54: I'd recommend looking for a #subversion19:21
tashshouldn't setting root: test@test.com in /etc/aliases mean that an crons that email root should be sent to test@test.com?19:39
hallynfeh, how many times does it re-run the same (failing) attach-inteface test?19:58
chmacRapid2214: Apologies, got disconnected earlier, thanks again for your help, it seems to a be a mysql specific issue so I'll start investigating in that direction :-)20:19
chmacThink I got dropped before that got through a few minutes ago :-)20:19
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adam_gsmoser: ping21:21
adam_gdah, nvm21:22
hallynjdstrand: actually, when I connect to qatest-i386 with vnc, it seems the problem is that it doesn't boot.  just hangs at 'uncompressing linux'22:10
hallyni think the attach-interface is just hanging while qemu waits for the os to ack it22:11
hallyni guess 'booting hte kernel' is where it hangs22:11
hallynhm, i see.  seems perhaps a regression with unaccelerated qemu22:15
tashthis is really strange, has anyone ever had this happen? Boot up and you've got a black screen with a blinking cursor?22:22
tashAfter a few reboots, eventually able to login, then after a few moments, things locked up again .... maybe SATA controller going bad or hard drive issue?22:23
adam_gzul: gonna start populating this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openstack/Essex/Notes22:25
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RoyKtash: check dmesg23:24
RoyKtash: or setup syslog logging to another host23:24
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away

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