Will123456 | is unity 5.10 going to be the final version that goes in precise? or will it be 5.12? | 02:44 |
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thumper | Will123456: 5.10 | 03:30 |
thumper | Will123456: unless... we have a zero day SRU branch | 03:31 |
thumper | Will123456: in which case it'll be 5.12 :) | 03:31 |
Will123456 | thumper: thanks for the heads up :) | 03:52 |
thumper | np | 03:52 |
Will123456 | will all the bugs targetted for 5.10 make it into the release, do you think? i'm finding it hard to guage exactly how much attention and focus is directed where. i guess that comes with the distributed/undirected work process | 03:53 |
Will123456 | (by make it, i mean get fixed :P) | 03:53 |
thumper | haha, ahhh... no | 03:56 |
thumper | not all will be addressed | 03:56 |
thumper | there is a code freeze at the end of tomorrow | 03:56 |
thumper | for 5.10 | 03:56 |
Will123456 | seriously? i've got a bug i desperately want fixed, but i can't see anyone working on a branch for it | 03:58 |
Will123456 | what can i do other than spend the next few hours desperately learning compiz and brushing up on C instead of sleeping? :P | 03:59 |
thomi | Have a good weekend everyone - for those of us in the future, the weekend starts.... *now* :P | 05:16 |
gotwig | jo | 08:23 |
gotwig | davidcalle: hey | 08:29 |
gotwig | nerochiaro: hey | 08:29 |
nerochiaro | gotwig: hi | 08:30 |
gotwi | davidcalle: there? | 09:35 |
davidcalle | davidcalle, yeah | 09:36 |
gotwi | davidcalle: :D | 09:37 |
gotwi | davidcalle: I got translations set up | 09:37 |
gotwi | with the support of your friend | 09:37 |
davidcalle | gotwi, awesome! I'll have a look at your branch to make a tuto. | 09:38 |
gotwi | davidcalle: tuto? | 09:39 |
gotwi | davidcalle: tutorial :D? | 09:39 |
davidcalle | gotwi, yeah :) | 09:39 |
gotwi | davidcalle: kay, but I need help from you :O | 09:39 |
gotwi | davidcalle: with lens filtering | 09:39 |
davidcalle | gotwi, what do you need? | 09:39 |
davidcalle | Ok | 09:39 |
gotwi | :-) | 09:39 |
gotwi | davidcalle: and my scope has also probems with 'annoying flickering' :-) | 09:40 |
gotwi | davidcalle: that is not a unity bug, is it? :X | 09:40 |
gotwi | "an" | 09:40 |
gotwi | davidcalle: would be cool to have a nicer animation, too, to see each element coming into life in the dash... not all at once | 09:41 |
gotwi | davidcalle: you know ? | 09:41 |
davidcalle | davidcalle, I can help you with that actually, it's easy, but it doesn't look really good. | 09:42 |
davidcalle | davidcalle, talking to yourself again? | 09:43 |
davidcalle | gotwi, what is your filters issue? | 09:44 |
gotwi | davidcalle: I just want filters xD | 09:44 |
gotwi | davidcalle: I have external scopes you know | 09:44 |
davidcalle | gotwi, external scopes won't be able to provide filters, just an entry in the "Sources" filter. All other filters are defined in the lens daemon. | 09:45 |
gotwi | davidcalle: a bit bad | 09:46 |
davidcalle | gotwi, I know :) | 09:46 |
gotwi | davidcalle: so how may I do interacting | 09:47 |
gotwi | with scope results | 09:47 |
gotwi | do I have to filter the results from the scope, or does th scope have to filter? | 09:47 |
gotwi | :-) | 09:48 |
davidcalle | gotwi, look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/deviantart/view/head:/src/unity-scope-deviantart | 09:49 |
gotwi | davidcalle: all right, Sir :-) | 09:50 |
davidcalle | gotwi, it's a scope for the graphicdesign lens : it listens to filter changes (l36), reacts to it (l52), reads the filters (l80, l94) | 09:51 |
davidcalle | gotwi, the filter used in this lens and in this case is the RadioOption option one. | 09:52 |
gotwi | davidcalle: also from you?^^ | 09:54 |
davidcalle | gotwi, the lens? yes | 09:55 |
gotwi | davidcalle: its a scope... | 09:55 |
davidcalle | gotwi, and the scope too :) | 09:55 |
gotwi | om26er jml_ : hey | 10:07 |
davidcalle | mhr3, hey, I appear to have lost my category icons in the Dash. Do you see it too? | 10:16 |
mhr3 | i heard that from multiple people using the staging ppa | 10:18 |
davidcalle | mhr3, ok | 10:18 |
gotwi | davidcalle: muh | 10:20 |
gotwi | davidcalle: I dont realy know how to apply the filters | 10:20 |
davidcalle | gotwi, have you created them in your lens? | 10:20 |
gotwi | davidcalle: yeah, long ago already | 10:21 |
davidcalle | gotwi, what kind of filters? | 10:21 |
gotwi | davidcalle: normal radio filter, and stars filter | 10:22 |
davidcalle | gotwi, for the radio option, you can use the check_filters method in the branch I gave you earlier. | 10:23 |
gotwi | davidcalle: I dont understand it | 10:24 |
gotwi | davidcalle: from line 138? | 10:24 |
davidcalle | gotwi, then it's a simple matter of doing "if self.check_filters("filter name") == "option name": display relevant results" | 10:25 |
davidcalle | gotwi, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/deviantart/view/head:/src/unity-scope-deviantart (line 94) | 10:25 |
davidcalle | gotwi, if it returns true, the option is active, if false, the option is not active, if none, the "All" option is active | 10:27 |
gotwi | davidcalle: line 75 - 100? | 10:27 |
davidcalle | gotwi, the method is from l94 - 100, it is used on l80 | 10:28 |
gotwi | davidcalle: 194-100?? | 10:29 |
davidcalle | gotwi, and I have to go, I'm back in a couple of hours. Good luck :) | 10:29 |
gotwi | davidcalle: bye | 10:30 |
davidcalle | gotwi, no it's not a 1, it's a l as in line :P | 10:30 |
gotwi | kay xD | 10:30 |
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dupondje | Some small question about unity. How can I make all 'indication' (like empathy messages and so) show on Primary screen ? | 13:17 |
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Cimi | dupondje, there should be a gsettings key accessible through dconf-editor | 13:29 |
Cimi | it's in apps.notify-osd | 13:30 |
Cimi | multihead-mode | 13:30 |
Cimi | dont-focus-follow | 13:30 |
dupondje | Thanks alot Cimi | 13:37 |
dupondje | that worked :) | 13:37 |
Cimi | dupondje, yw :) | 13:37 |
gotwig | hey | 15:00 |
gotwig | mhall119: hey | 15:00 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: hey | 15:01 |
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chaoticuk | gotwig: hi | 15:04 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: do you like lenses? | 15:04 |
chaoticuk | gotwig: what are you referring to specifically? | 15:06 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: unity lenses | 15:06 |
chaoticuk | gotwig: well yes, I get that - what aspect of the Unity Lenses | 15:06 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: if you simply like them | 15:07 |
gotwig | Daviey: h00ray | 15:07 |
smoser | hey... | 15:09 |
smoser | my unity-2d-shell process currently has 448m resident. | 15:09 |
gotwig | smoser: so? | 15:10 |
smoser | its leaking. | 15:10 |
smoser | so, i think is unity-panel-service, which has 134m resident. | 15:10 |
gotwig | smoser: yes | 15:10 |
smoser | how should i open a bug. | 15:11 |
smoser | 'ubuntu-bug' yes, but is there anything i can collect that will be more useful. | 15:11 |
gotwig | smoser: I dont think so | 15:14 |
chaoticuk | gotwig: they're a powerful search tool, but when you say 'like' what do you refer to: the concept, the UX, how they look, the implementation, etc? | 15:14 |
gotwig | smoser: the typical way | 15:14 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: all in all | 15:14 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: I am a lens/scope developer, you know... | 15:14 |
chaoticuk | gotwig: right | 15:14 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: so? | 15:15 |
gotwig | I would like to have it more dynamical | 15:15 |
gotwig | from a developer view I am very much restricted | 15:15 |
gotwig | just 2 views, scopes cant affect filters | 15:15 |
mhall119 | gotwig: there is talk about allowing scopes to add filters to a lens | 15:16 |
mhall119 | the big concern would be to make sure scopes re-use filters instead of each one adding a bunch of custom ones | 15:16 |
gotwig | mhall119: would be important for my one. You know, the one lens works with likes, the other with ratings... and than levels for recipes, the doesnt even have levels... | 15:16 |
gotwig | "other" | 15:17 |
gotwig | I cant realize a filter for my lens , with such restrictions... | 15:17 |
mhall119 | gotwig: right, scopes should gracefully ignore filters they don't know how to use | 15:17 |
chaoticuk | gotwig: ok, so I have a slightly better idea what you're asking now - you're directing your questions to the wrong person I think as these are UX questions, JohnLea might be better | 15:17 |
gotwig | chaoticuk: no, just from a simple enduser view... | 15:18 |
gotwig | mhall119: :/ | 15:18 |
mhall119 | gotwig: johnlea and mhr3 would be the best people to discuss such a new feature with | 15:18 |
gotwig | mhall119: maybe I am just to new to app developement :X | 15:18 |
gotwig | mhall119: just added language support :X now I have to wait for launchpad synchronize | 15:19 |
mhall119 | lens/scope development is slightly different from traditional app development, there has to be much more collaboration between developer | 15:19 |
mhr3 | gotwig, why should a user care if there are likes or stars or bimbos, ultimately the scope should be able to "normalize" that into one format | 15:29 |
gotwig | mhr3: what you mean | 15:29 |
mhr3 | the intention is still the same | 15:29 |
gotwig | mhr3: currently I dont have a filter | 15:29 |
mhr3 | "i want recipes that are *good*" | 15:29 |
mhr3 | not "i want recipes that have 3 or more bimbos" | 15:30 |
gotwig | mhr3: :D | 15:30 |
gotwig | mhr3: * not available * :D ? | 15:30 |
gotwig | mhr3: I think the user wants to search for awesome ones... | 15:30 |
gotwig | mhr3: but not only without filters.. right? | 15:30 |
gotwig | mhr3: do you think a text search is nearly enough? | 15:31 |
gotwig | I know there are veggies out there that want such filters.. thats not hard to implement. | 15:31 |
gotwig | for veggie stuff, only | 15:31 |
mhr3 | the that's why there are lenses and scopes - lens will define that the filter will have options "ok", "good" and "awesome", the scope will then translate that to 1 bimbo, 3 bimbos, 5 bimbos | 15:31 |
mhr3 | (or 10+ likes, 1000+likes and gazillion likes) | 15:32 |
gotwig | mhr3: but the search does filter by default with likes | 15:34 |
gotwig | mhr3: so... there is no need for such a thing, imho | 15:34 |
gotwig | and relevance | 15:34 |
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davmor2 | hey guys when an app is installed and the icon appears in the launcher if you remove the application the icon stays in the launcher this is a regression over how software-center used to handle things :( | 15:59 |
gotwig | hey | 16:14 |
gotwig | please help me with image cache problems in my scope... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking/view/head:/unity-scope-gourmet#L98 | 16:14 |
gotwig | mhr3: what would you want from a cooking lens ? | 16:18 |
mhr3 | gotwig, to cook me? :) | 16:20 |
mhall119 | gotwig: if you can write a lens that literally makes me a sandwhich, that would be awesome | 16:50 |
mpt | Cimi, was it you looking for Notify OSD bugs to fix? Bug 963579 is one | 17:01 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 963579 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Bubble uses huge size after setting it to normal in accesibility" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/963579 | 17:01 |
Cimi | mpt, it can't make it to 12.04 I think :) | 17:02 |
gotwig | mhall119: that has nothing to do with a lens :D | 17:15 |
gotwig | mhall119: Your dream is fulfilled: http://i.imgur.com/GianI.png | 17:29 |
gotwig | mhall119: Please report a bug, if thats the functionality what your looking for.. | 17:30 |
gotwig | *not* :O | 17:30 |
mhall119 | gotwig: lol | 17:35 |
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gotwig | so here is my problem, reported at stackoverflow ! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon | 17:43 |
AaronDCampbell | I'm trying out https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp which is pretty nice. The main problem is that the system tray icon doesn't show in unity. Is this a problem with the app, or a problem with my unity config? | 18:02 |
AaronDCampbell | The main reason I ask is that it was a pain to get the Skype icon to show and I still can't get the pidgin icon to show either | 18:02 |
mhall119 | AaronDCampbell: Unity doesn't use the old systray applet, it needs to use the newer Indicator framework | 18:04 |
mhall119 | AaronDCampbell: Pidgin should show in the Message Menu (the one with the envelope icon) in the top panel | 18:04 |
AaronDCampbell | mhall119: so it's a problem with the app. Thanks | 18:05 |
AaronDCampbell | Hmmm, I see that now. Is there a way to make pidgin it's own icon? | 18:05 |
mhall119 | AaronDCampbell: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/application-indicators/ has instructions for how to add an Indicator | 18:05 |
mhall119 | AaronDCampbell: if Pidgin decides to make a dedicated indicator (see the link posted) it would have it's own icon | 18:06 |
mhall119 | but generally, it's nicer for all messaging appps to make use of the common Message Meny | 18:06 |
mhall119 | Menu | 18:06 |
gotwig | AaronDCampbell: wait. You know that Skype® is evil? | 18:24 |
gotwig | mhall119: I liked the old memenu, you was able to post directly messages trough it. | 18:42 |
gotwig | "were" | 18:42 |
gotwig | mhall119: do you know where I can find people that want to test my software? give me real user feedback? | 18:58 |
mhall119 | gotwig: it's been popular on Google+ | 19:00 |
gotwig | mhall119: what :P | 19:00 |
gotwig | mhall119: ? | 19:04 |
bschaefer | thomi, ping | 19:09 |
thomi | hi bschaefer | 19:09 |
bschaefer | hey, so im trying to make this ap test for a quick alt+tab. I have a working ap test here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916429/ | 19:10 |
bschaefer | but i don't like it... | 19:10 |
bschaefer | is there a way to get the stack of windows? | 19:10 |
bschaefer | or the most focused one I guess | 19:11 |
thomi | there is, but TBH I think you're better off using the BamfWIndow class, since the Unity focus order doesn't follow the window stack order | 19:11 |
thomi | BTW, why not use 'self.kleybinding' instead of self.keyboard? | 19:11 |
gotwig | baswhat do you mean? | 19:12 |
gotwig | bschaefer: you can configure this behaviour using compiz config settings manager | 19:12 |
bschaefer | thomi, I need the delay to be 0, so the quick alt+tab works | 19:12 |
bschaefer | otherwise it doesn't use that code | 19:12 |
thomi | you can pass a delay into keybinding( | 19:12 |
thomi | ...I'm pretty sure | 19:13 |
thomi | yeah you can | 19:13 |
bschaefer | thomi, let me double check, the keybinding was going to slow, so I tried keyboard and it was to slow then I saw the delay and then just changed it to 0 | 19:13 |
thomi | yeah, there's an optional delay part | 19:13 |
bschaefer | gotwig, im not trying to configure anything, Im making an autopilot test for some new code | 19:14 |
thomi | under the hood it calls self.keyboard.press_and_release, but using keybinding means we don't break when the keybindings change | 19:14 |
bschaefer | thomi, ok, so using the BamfWindow class | 19:14 |
bschaefer | to see if it only pulls up 1 window vs all of them seems still hard to do | 19:14 |
gotwig | bschaefer: :X ? | 19:15 |
thomi | bschaefer: ahh, so you want to see the stack order... | 19:15 |
bschaefer | thomi, yeaah, The way I was doing it was alt+tab quick, alt+tab quick then alt+f4 alt+f4 | 19:15 |
bschaefer | if it grabbed BOTH windows of the calc it would close both | 19:15 |
bschaefer | then the assert would fail on how many are there, as the correct behavior should just pull 1 calc up then close the char map | 19:16 |
thomi | bschaefer: ok, but your assert is that len(calc.windows) == 2 | 19:16 |
thomi | ahh, ok. you want the assert to fail :) | 19:16 |
bschaefer | no actually its because one is already made | 19:16 |
bschaefer | so there are 3 at one time | 19:16 |
bschaefer | in setUp 1 is made, but since I was going to close them I didn't want to use those | 19:17 |
bschaefer | and mess up the test | 19:17 |
thomi | I see | 19:17 |
bschaefer | yeeah I didn't give you the context of where I put it | 19:18 |
bschaefer | but this is the only way I found to test :( | 19:18 |
thomi | If the BamfDaemon exposes this info over ibus, that would be the best place to get it. If not, you'll need to use XLib. | 19:18 |
thomi | if you want a good p;lace to start with xlib, read the source code to the ewmh python module. You can download it from sourceforge | 19:18 |
bschaefer | alright! Hopefully I can get something done by today, dam freeze! | 19:19 |
bschaefer | all the code is done, it just needs an ap test! haha | 19:19 |
thomi | :) | 19:19 |
bschaefer | thanks for the info. Ill ping you later if I find anything. Have fun with your work for the day :) | 19:20 |
thomi | bschaefer: .... it's the start of the weekend for me. Today I'm replacing a fireplace. If you're lucky I'll hang around my computer :) | 19:23 |
bschaefer | thomi, ooo nice! Have fun with that, getting ready for a winter? | 19:24 |
bschaefer | or the winter I guess | 19:24 |
thomi | yeah | 19:39 |
krnekhelesh | anyone know when Unity 5.10 is intended to be released? | 19:55 |
seb128 | krnekhelesh, next week | 19:57 |
krnekhelesh | seb128, thnx | 19:58 |
seb128 | yw | 19:58 |
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markgifford | I have precise beta 2 and unity 5.8. I don't seem to be able to turn off certain icons on the top panel e.g. (Bluetooth) despite seeing blog posts a month back saying it's now possible. is this something i should wait for 5.10 and hope it's fixed? | 20:37 |
markgifford | hope this is the correct place to ask | 20:38 |
davidcalle | markgifford, I think you should ask this in #ubuntu-desktop | 20:44 |
markgifford | ok will do. thanks davidcalle | 20:45 |
gotwig | hey there :-) | 21:13 |
gotwig | Please help with python loop in scope : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon | 21:13 |
gotwig | :( | 21:27 |
gotwig | no one understands me | 21:27 |
gotwig | is my english so bad? | 21:27 |
gotwig | I am waiting for an option for scopes to turn caching for images OFF! | 21:40 |
gotwig | :( | 21:41 |
gotwig | mhall119: ^ mhr3: ^ gord: ^ | 21:41 |
thumper | umm... | 21:42 |
thumper | not likely to happen in the short term | 21:42 |
thumper | as the cache never stores the source | 21:42 |
thumper | so it would be an on/off switch | 21:42 |
thumper | so.. not gunna happen | 21:43 |
thumper | as it is | 21:43 |
gotwig | so my scope is not going to work...... | 21:43 |
gotwig | I want that it works.. | 21:43 |
gotwig | thumper: can you help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon has all details ..... | 21:43 |
gotwig | ChrisGagnon: hey | 21:44 |
gotwig | would be good if unity could handle URI's , too... but I think the dev's now that already | 21:45 |
gotwig | "know" | 21:45 |
gotwig | good night, dev's | 21:50 |
thumper | um... unity does handle URIs | 21:53 |
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htorque | hi all! anyone here running unity trunk (rev 2237) that can confirm a cut off dash search bar background? http://img.xrmb2.net/images/480508.png | 22:51 |
bschaefer | htorque, let me update my unity really quick and Ill let you know! | 22:53 |
htorque | bschaefer: thanks! | 22:54 |
bschaefer | whistle..., I guess there was a bit of merges to trunk today! | 22:57 |
bschaefer | at 75% compiled... | 22:57 |
htorque | yeah, that's the reason i compiled it in the first place :P | 22:57 |
MCR1 | can someone tell me how to get the latest nux needed to compile Unity ? | 22:58 |
bschaefer | bzr branch lp:nux | 22:58 |
MCR1 | oh, that's easy ;) | 22:58 |
bschaefer | http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source | 22:58 |
MCR1 | thx | 22:58 |
bschaefer | some instructions also :) | 22:58 |
MCR1 | thx | 22:59 |
htorque | even easier if you add --disable-examples --disable-gputests --disable-tests to ./autogen.sh :P | 22:59 |
MCR1 | thx 4 the tip | 22:59 |
bschaefer | your welcome. | 22:59 |
bschaefer | htorque, im not getting a cut off in my dash | 23:00 |
bschaefer | search bar | 23:00 |
htorque | bschaefer: meh, because you have also nux from trunk | 23:00 |
bschaefer | great haha | 23:00 |
htorque | i just finished recompiling unity with nux trunk and it's gone here too | 23:00 |
bschaefer | O I thought I had to re compile nux | 23:00 |
bschaefer | i was like dammit then I have to recompile unity and I just finished :) | 23:00 |
htorque | bschaefer: thanks for trying and sorry for wasting your time ;-) | 23:01 |
bschaefer | htorque, no worries :), and your welcome | 23:01 |
htorque | great, with those merges there's only one ugly corner left: http://img.xrmb2.net/images/341179.png :-) | 23:04 |
bschaefer | htorque, o yeah, those have been around for a while...but a lot of good merges are coming through :) | 23:08 |
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