[02:44] is unity 5.10 going to be the final version that goes in precise? or will it be 5.12? [03:30] Will123456: 5.10 [03:31] Will123456: unless... we have a zero day SRU branch [03:31] Will123456: in which case it'll be 5.12 :) [03:52] thumper: thanks for the heads up :) [03:52] np [03:53] will all the bugs targetted for 5.10 make it into the release, do you think? i'm finding it hard to guage exactly how much attention and focus is directed where. i guess that comes with the distributed/undirected work process [03:53] (by make it, i mean get fixed :P) [03:56] haha, ahhh... no [03:56] not all will be addressed [03:56] there is a code freeze at the end of tomorrow [03:56] for 5.10 [03:58] seriously? i've got a bug i desperately want fixed, but i can't see anyone working on a branch for it [03:59] what can i do other than spend the next few hours desperately learning compiz and brushing up on C instead of sleeping? :P [05:16] Have a good weekend everyone - for those of us in the future, the weekend starts.... *now* :P [08:23] jo [08:29] davidcalle: hey [08:29] nerochiaro: hey [08:30] gotwig: hi [09:35] davidcalle: there? [09:36] davidcalle, yeah [09:37] davidcalle: :D [09:37] davidcalle: I got translations set up [09:37] with the support of your friend [09:38] gotwi, awesome! I'll have a look at your branch to make a tuto. [09:39] davidcalle: tuto? [09:39] davidcalle: tutorial :D? [09:39] gotwi, yeah :) [09:39] davidcalle: kay, but I need help from you :O [09:39] davidcalle: with lens filtering [09:39] gotwi, what do you need? [09:39] Ok [09:39] :-) [09:40] davidcalle: and my scope has also probems with 'annoying flickering' :-) [09:40] davidcalle: that is not a unity bug, is it? :X [09:40] "an" [09:41] davidcalle: would be cool to have a nicer animation, too, to see each element coming into life in the dash... not all at once [09:41] davidcalle: you know ? [09:42] davidcalle, I can help you with that actually, it's easy, but it doesn't look really good. [09:43] davidcalle, talking to yourself again? [09:44] gotwi, what is your filters issue? [09:44] davidcalle: I just want filters xD [09:44] davidcalle: I have external scopes you know [09:45] gotwi, external scopes won't be able to provide filters, just an entry in the "Sources" filter. All other filters are defined in the lens daemon. [09:46] davidcalle: a bit bad [09:46] gotwi, I know :) [09:47] davidcalle: so how may I do interacting [09:47] with scope results [09:47] do I have to filter the results from the scope, or does th scope have to filter? [09:48] :-) [09:49] gotwi, look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/deviantart/view/head:/src/unity-scope-deviantart [09:50] davidcalle: all right, Sir :-) [09:51] gotwi, it's a scope for the graphicdesign lens : it listens to filter changes (l36), reacts to it (l52), reads the filters (l80, l94) [09:52] gotwi, the filter used in this lens and in this case is the RadioOption option one. [09:54] davidcalle: also from you?^^ [09:55] gotwi, the lens? yes [09:55] davidcalle: its a scope... [09:55] gotwi, and the scope too :) [10:07] om26er jml_ : hey [10:16] mhr3, hey, I appear to have lost my category icons in the Dash. Do you see it too? [10:18] i heard that from multiple people using the staging ppa [10:18] mhr3, ok [10:20] davidcalle: muh [10:20] davidcalle: I dont realy know how to apply the filters [10:20] gotwi, have you created them in your lens? [10:21] davidcalle: yeah, long ago already [10:21] gotwi, what kind of filters? [10:22] davidcalle: normal radio filter, and stars filter [10:23] gotwi, for the radio option, you can use the check_filters method in the branch I gave you earlier. [10:24] davidcalle: I dont understand it [10:24] davidcalle: from line 138? [10:25] gotwi, then it's a simple matter of doing "if self.check_filters("filter name") == "option name": display relevant results" [10:25] gotwi, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/deviantart/view/head:/src/unity-scope-deviantart (line 94) [10:27] gotwi, if it returns true, the option is active, if false, the option is not active, if none, the "All" option is active [10:27] davidcalle: line 75 - 100? [10:28] gotwi, the method is from l94 - 100, it is used on l80 [10:29] davidcalle: 194-100?? [10:29] gotwi, and I have to go, I'm back in a couple of hours. Good luck :) [10:30] davidcalle: bye [10:30] gotwi, no it's not a 1, it's a l as in line :P [10:30] kay xD === christian is now known as Guest71204 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:17] Some small question about unity. How can I make all 'indication' (like empathy messages and so) show on Primary screen ? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|police [13:29] dupondje, there should be a gsettings key accessible through dconf-editor [13:30] it's in apps.notify-osd [13:30] multihead-mode [13:30] dont-focus-follow [13:37] Thanks alot Cimi [13:37] that worked :) [13:37] dupondje, yw :) [15:00] hey [15:00] mhall119: hey [15:01] chaoticuk: hey === alan_g|police is now known as alan_g [15:04] gotwig: hi [15:04] chaoticuk: do you like lenses? [15:06] gotwig: what are you referring to specifically? [15:06] chaoticuk: unity lenses [15:06] gotwig: well yes, I get that - what aspect of the Unity Lenses [15:07] chaoticuk: if you simply like them [15:07] Daviey: h00ray [15:09] hey... [15:09] my unity-2d-shell process currently has 448m resident. [15:10] smoser: so? [15:10] its leaking. [15:10] so, i think is unity-panel-service, which has 134m resident. [15:10] smoser: yes [15:11] how should i open a bug. [15:11] 'ubuntu-bug' yes, but is there anything i can collect that will be more useful. [15:14] smoser: I dont think so [15:14] gotwig: they're a powerful search tool, but when you say 'like' what do you refer to: the concept, the UX, how they look, the implementation, etc? [15:14] smoser: the typical way [15:14] chaoticuk: all in all [15:14] chaoticuk: I am a lens/scope developer, you know... [15:14] gotwig: right [15:15] chaoticuk: so? [15:15] I would like to have it more dynamical [15:15] from a developer view I am very much restricted [15:15] just 2 views, scopes cant affect filters [15:16] gotwig: there is talk about allowing scopes to add filters to a lens [15:16] the big concern would be to make sure scopes re-use filters instead of each one adding a bunch of custom ones [15:16] mhall119: would be important for my one. You know, the one lens works with likes, the other with ratings... and than levels for recipes, the doesnt even have levels... [15:17] "other" [15:17] I cant realize a filter for my lens , with such restrictions... [15:17] gotwig: right, scopes should gracefully ignore filters they don't know how to use [15:17] gotwig: ok, so I have a slightly better idea what you're asking now - you're directing your questions to the wrong person I think as these are UX questions, JohnLea might be better [15:18] chaoticuk: no, just from a simple enduser view... [15:18] mhall119: :/ [15:18] gotwig: johnlea and mhr3 would be the best people to discuss such a new feature with [15:18] mhall119: maybe I am just to new to app developement :X [15:19] mhall119: just added language support :X now I have to wait for launchpad synchronize [15:19] lens/scope development is slightly different from traditional app development, there has to be much more collaboration between developer [15:29] gotwig, why should a user care if there are likes or stars or bimbos, ultimately the scope should be able to "normalize" that into one format [15:29] mhr3: what you mean [15:29] the intention is still the same [15:29] mhr3: currently I dont have a filter [15:29] "i want recipes that are *good*" [15:30] not "i want recipes that have 3 or more bimbos" [15:30] mhr3: :D [15:30] mhr3: * not available * :D ? [15:30] mhr3: I think the user wants to search for awesome ones... [15:30] mhr3: but not only without filters.. right? [15:31] mhr3: do you think a text search is nearly enough? [15:31] I know there are veggies out there that want such filters.. thats not hard to implement. [15:31] for veggie stuff, only [15:31] the that's why there are lenses and scopes - lens will define that the filter will have options "ok", "good" and "awesome", the scope will then translate that to 1 bimbo, 3 bimbos, 5 bimbos [15:32] (or 10+ likes, 1000+likes and gazillion likes) [15:34] mhr3: but the search does filter by default with likes [15:34] mhr3: so... there is no need for such a thing, imho [15:34] and relevance === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|dinner [15:59] hey guys when an app is installed and the icon appears in the launcher if you remove the application the icon stays in the launcher this is a regression over how software-center used to handle things :( [16:14] hey [16:14] please help me with image cache problems in my scope... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking/view/head:/unity-scope-gourmet#L98 [16:18] mhr3: what would you want from a cooking lens ? [16:20] gotwig, to cook me? :) [16:50] gotwig: if you can write a lens that literally makes me a sandwhich, that would be awesome [17:01] Cimi, was it you looking for Notify OSD bugs to fix? Bug 963579 is one [17:01] Launchpad bug 963579 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Bubble uses huge size after setting it to normal in accesibility" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/963579 [17:02] mpt, it can't make it to 12.04 I think :) [17:15] mhall119: that has nothing to do with a lens :D [17:29] mhall119: Your dream is fulfilled: http://i.imgur.com/GianI.png [17:30] mhall119: Please report a bug, if thats the functionality what your looking for.. [17:30] *not* :O [17:35] gotwig: lol === MacSlow|dinner is now known as MacSlow [17:43] so here is my problem, reported at stackoverflow ! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon [18:02] I'm trying out https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp which is pretty nice. The main problem is that the system tray icon doesn't show in unity. Is this a problem with the app, or a problem with my unity config? [18:02] The main reason I ask is that it was a pain to get the Skype icon to show and I still can't get the pidgin icon to show either [18:04] AaronDCampbell: Unity doesn't use the old systray applet, it needs to use the newer Indicator framework [18:04] AaronDCampbell: Pidgin should show in the Message Menu (the one with the envelope icon) in the top panel [18:05] mhall119: so it's a problem with the app. Thanks [18:05] Hmmm, I see that now. Is there a way to make pidgin it's own icon? [18:05] AaronDCampbell: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/application-indicators/ has instructions for how to add an Indicator [18:06] AaronDCampbell: if Pidgin decides to make a dedicated indicator (see the link posted) it would have it's own icon [18:06] but generally, it's nicer for all messaging appps to make use of the common Message Meny [18:06] Menu [18:24] AaronDCampbell: wait. You know that Skype® is evil? [18:42] mhall119: I liked the old memenu, you was able to post directly messages trough it. [18:42] "were" [18:58] mhall119: do you know where I can find people that want to test my software? give me real user feedback? [19:00] gotwig: it's been popular on Google+ [19:00] mhall119: what :P [19:04] mhall119: ? [19:09] thomi, ping [19:09] hi bschaefer [19:10] hey, so im trying to make this ap test for a quick alt+tab. I have a working ap test here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916429/ [19:10] but i don't like it... [19:10] is there a way to get the stack of windows? [19:11] or the most focused one I guess [19:11] there is, but TBH I think you're better off using the BamfWIndow class, since the Unity focus order doesn't follow the window stack order [19:11] BTW, why not use 'self.kleybinding' instead of self.keyboard? [19:12] baswhat do you mean? [19:12] bschaefer: you can configure this behaviour using compiz config settings manager [19:12] thomi, I need the delay to be 0, so the quick alt+tab works [19:12] otherwise it doesn't use that code [19:12] you can pass a delay into keybinding( [19:13] ...I'm pretty sure [19:13] yeah you can [19:13] thomi, let me double check, the keybinding was going to slow, so I tried keyboard and it was to slow then I saw the delay and then just changed it to 0 [19:13] yeah, there's an optional delay part [19:14] gotwig, im not trying to configure anything, Im making an autopilot test for some new code [19:14] under the hood it calls self.keyboard.press_and_release, but using keybinding means we don't break when the keybindings change [19:14] thomi, ok, so using the BamfWindow class [19:14] to see if it only pulls up 1 window vs all of them seems still hard to do [19:15] bschaefer: :X ? [19:15] bschaefer: ahh, so you want to see the stack order... [19:15] thomi, yeaah, The way I was doing it was alt+tab quick, alt+tab quick then alt+f4 alt+f4 [19:15] if it grabbed BOTH windows of the calc it would close both [19:16] then the assert would fail on how many are there, as the correct behavior should just pull 1 calc up then close the char map [19:16] bschaefer: ok, but your assert is that len(calc.windows) == 2 [19:16] ahh, ok. you want the assert to fail :) [19:16] no actually its because one is already made [19:16] so there are 3 at one time [19:17] in setUp 1 is made, but since I was going to close them I didn't want to use those [19:17] and mess up the test [19:17] I see [19:18] yeeah I didn't give you the context of where I put it [19:18] but this is the only way I found to test :( [19:18] If the BamfDaemon exposes this info over ibus, that would be the best place to get it. If not, you'll need to use XLib. [19:18] if you want a good p;lace to start with xlib, read the source code to the ewmh python module. You can download it from sourceforge [19:19] alright! Hopefully I can get something done by today, dam freeze! [19:19] all the code is done, it just needs an ap test! haha [19:19] :) [19:20] thanks for the info. Ill ping you later if I find anything. Have fun with your work for the day :) [19:23] bschaefer: .... it's the start of the weekend for me. Today I'm replacing a fireplace. If you're lucky I'll hang around my computer :) [19:24] thomi, ooo nice! Have fun with that, getting ready for a winter? [19:24] or the winter I guess [19:39] yeah [19:55] anyone know when Unity 5.10 is intended to be released? [19:57] krnekhelesh, next week [19:58] seb128, thnx [19:58] yw === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [20:37] I have precise beta 2 and unity 5.8. I don't seem to be able to turn off certain icons on the top panel e.g. (Bluetooth) despite seeing blog posts a month back saying it's now possible. is this something i should wait for 5.10 and hope it's fixed? [20:38] hope this is the correct place to ask [20:44] markgifford, I think you should ask this in #ubuntu-desktop [20:45] ok will do. thanks davidcalle [21:13] hey there :-) [21:13] Please help with python loop in scope : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon [21:27] :( [21:27] no one understands me [21:27] is my english so bad? [21:40] I am waiting for an option for scopes to turn caching for images OFF! [21:41] :( [21:41] mhall119: ^ mhr3: ^ gord: ^ [21:42] umm... [21:42] not likely to happen in the short term [21:42] as the cache never stores the source [21:42] so it would be an on/off switch [21:43] so.. not gunna happen [21:43] as it is [21:43] so my scope is not going to work...... [21:43] I want that it works.. [21:43] thumper: can you help ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10033324/image-caching-loop-goes-wrong-for-my-recipe-searching-program-daemon has all details ..... [21:44] ChrisGagnon: hey [21:45] would be good if unity could handle URI's , too... but I think the dev's now that already [21:45] "know" [21:50] good night, dev's [21:53] um... unity does handle URIs === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:51] hi all! anyone here running unity trunk (rev 2237) that can confirm a cut off dash search bar background? http://img.xrmb2.net/images/480508.png [22:53] htorque, let me update my unity really quick and Ill let you know! [22:54] bschaefer: thanks! [22:57] whistle..., I guess there was a bit of merges to trunk today! [22:57] at 75% compiled... [22:57] yeah, that's the reason i compiled it in the first place :P [22:58] can someone tell me how to get the latest nux needed to compile Unity ? [22:58] bzr branch lp:nux [22:58] oh, that's easy ;) [22:58] http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source [22:58] thx [22:58] some instructions also :) [22:59] thx [22:59] even easier if you add --disable-examples --disable-gputests --disable-tests to ./autogen.sh :P [22:59] thx 4 the tip [22:59] your welcome. [23:00] htorque, im not getting a cut off in my dash [23:00] search bar [23:00] bschaefer: meh, because you have also nux from trunk [23:00] great haha [23:00] i just finished recompiling unity with nux trunk and it's gone here too [23:00] O I thought I had to re compile nux [23:00] i was like dammit then I have to recompile unity and I just finished :) [23:01] bschaefer: thanks for trying and sorry for wasting your time ;-) [23:01] htorque, no worries :), and your welcome [23:04] great, with those merges there's only one ugly corner left: http://img.xrmb2.net/images/341179.png :-) [23:08] htorque, o yeah, those have been around for a while...but a lot of good merges are coming through :)