[05:52] <magespawn> Good morning all.
[06:04] <psydroid> good morning magespawn
[06:05] <nuvolari> o/ psydroid 
[06:05] <psydroid> hi nuvolari
[06:07] <psydroid> I actually came across a satellite tv channel with your nickname yesterday, that was interesting
[06:24] <magespawn> Hi psydroid
[06:24] <magespawn> Who's name psydroid
[06:34] <psydroid> magespawn, nuvolari's
[06:35] <magespawn> Just when I thought  I was famous.
[06:54] <psydroid> haha
[07:17] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn inetpro and others
[07:31] <Kilos> gc_, coffee on
[07:31]  * gc_ puts the kettle on
[07:33] <magespawn> Hi Kilos
[07:35] <gc_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:35] <Kilos> gc_, thanks
[07:35] <gc_> Kilos: no problemo
[07:40] <magespawn> Nice bot this morning
[07:40] <Kilos> lol yeah
[07:53] <Kilos> bbl
[07:57] <inetpro> NICE!
[07:57] <inetpro> Busy upgrading my Android device
[08:04] <magespawn> To what inetpro? Os or software?
[08:05] <inetpro> magespawn: heh, I just got a OTA notification to upgrade my Nexus S 
[08:06] <magespawn> Ics?
[08:07] <inetpro> Was still on Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)
[08:07] <inetpro> now on 4.0.4
[08:07] <inetpro> upgrade went very smooth
[08:07] <inetpro> look and feel is so much different now
[08:07] <inetpro> will have to get used to it
[08:09] <magespawn> Nice
[09:10] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on 
[09:10]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:11] <magespawn> I got honeycomb on my flyer do not think they are going to do ics for this
[09:14] <magespawn> Bbl
[09:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[09:19] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[09:19] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay :-)
[10:18] <magespawn> afternoon everyone
[14:35] <Kilos> lo superfly and others
[14:40] <superfly> yo Kilos
[14:46] <Kilos> hi Grimm_ 
[14:46] <Kilos> hi robbit 
[14:49] <Grimm_> Hey Kilos, how are you?
[14:49] <Kilos> good ty Grimm_ and you?
[14:53] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[14:54] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[15:01] <Grimm_> Can't complain
[15:24] <Kilos> yay looks like they are dumping lilo
[15:57] <Kerbero> bout time
[15:57] <Kilos> yeah. i havent read what they say but here are the links Kerbero 
[15:58] <Kilos> http://www.lpi.org/news/lpi-announces-linux-essentials-program
[15:58] <Kilos> http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/introductory-programs/linux-essentials
[15:59] <Kerbero> tl;dr
[15:59] <Kerbero> :P
[15:59] <Kerbero> ek is nou te lui om eers op die links te click
[15:59] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[16:00] <Kilos> i will try mail that mail to our lists
[16:00] <Kilos> got lotsa info on
[16:01] <Kilos> then everyone can read it
[16:01] <Kilos> psydroid, have you joined our mailing list
[16:02] <psydroid> Kilos, I have joined one mailing list, but not the one for ubuntu-za, I think
[16:03] <psydroid> I will do it now, so I can help out with problems
[16:03] <Kilos> thats the only one i use otherwise too much irrelivant mail;
[16:04] <Kilos> ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:13] <psydroid> ok, I will sign up for it
[16:14] <psydroid> I am not subscribed to any ubuntu mailing list right now, but I have a launchpad account and have files some bugs
[16:27] <Kerbero> i'm only on maties-ubuntu 
[16:27] <Kerbero> so no irrelevant mails
[16:27] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <Kilos> bbl
[17:41] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:59] <superfly> Hi magespawn
[18:00] <magespawn> Almost gave up there.
[18:00] <superfly> Hehe, i'm on my phone atm
[18:17] <magespawn> No.worries
[18:18] <superfly> flipping between my study and the kitchen, so between my PC and my phone :-)
[18:24] <magespawn> You are too connected.
[18:42] <magespawn> Almost strange not to have Kilos here
[18:50] <Kilos> evening all
[18:50] <Kilos> im kinda late i guess
[19:00] <magespawn> Ha evening Kilos
[19:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn all well?
[19:01] <magespawn> Yes, was just saying it was strange to not have you here.
[19:01] <Kilos> sorry man
[19:01] <Kilos> its yucky not being here
[19:02] <magespawn> No worries
[19:06] <Kilos> magespawn, did you read them links. what else have they left outa lpi course
[19:06] <Kilos> maybe if i wait long enough it will just be, switch on, if not successful buy a new pc
[19:07] <Kilos> im reading about the ssl stuff at the moment 
[19:08] <Kilos> security is gonna be big as time goes on
[19:08] <kbmonkey> hi geeks
[19:08] <magespawn> I did have a look but not detailed.
[19:09] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[19:09] <magespawn> Hi kbmonkey
[19:09] <Kilos> Maaz, define geek
[19:09] <Maaz> Kilos: geek \geek\ (g[=e]k), n. 1. A performer in a carnival, often presented as a wild man, who performs grotesquely disgusting acts, such as biting the head off a live chicken or snake. [PJC]  2. Hence: Any eccentric or strange person; an oddball; an eccentric. [WordNet sense 1] [PJC]  3. Hence: A student who is socially inept and a misfit in his class, especially one who is an intellectual; a nerd; a dork. [Informal] [PJC]  4. Hence: An 
[19:09] <kbmonkey> how goes the hoenders kilos?
[19:09] <Kilos> hehe inetpro is the hoender boer
[19:09] <Kilos> hmmm
[19:10] <kbmonkey> Maaz: define dork
[19:10] <Maaz> kbmonkey: dork \dork\ (d[^o]rk), n. 1. a person who is stupid, socially inept, or ridiculous; -- always used disparagingly. [slang.]  Syn: nerd; jerk. [PJC]  2. the penis. [vulgar slang] [PJC], dork n 1: a dull stupid fatuous person [syn: {jerk}, {dork}]
[19:10] <kbmonkey> ha ha ha
[19:10] <Kilos> you guys must be the first option hey?
[19:10] <magespawn> Any of you follow LTG?
[19:10] <Kilos> ltg?
[19:10] <kbmonkey> LTG>
[19:10] <magespawn> Maaz: define nerd
[19:10] <Maaz> magespawn: nerd n 1: an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or boringly studious [syn: {swot}, {grind}, {nerd}, {wonk}, {dweeb}] 2: an intelligent but single-minded expert in a particular technical field or profession, nerd n.  1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary social rituals.  2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious ironic refer
[19:11] <kbmonkey> ha ha dweeb, I like that word
[19:11] <magespawn> Let's Talk Geek.
[19:11] <Kilos> my definition of a geek was way better methinks
[19:11] <kbmonkey> yes maaz uses an old style dictionary
[19:11] <Kilos> kbmonkey, are you concentrating?
[19:11] <kbmonkey> you've heard of webGL magespawn?
[19:12] <Kilos> whats happening the greeting bot??
[19:12] <magespawn> Yes but not sure what it is.
[19:13] <Kilos> magespawn, LTG?
[19:13] <magespawn> Kilos, Let's Talk Geek.
[19:13] <Kilos> Maaz, define LTG
[19:13] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about LTG. Maybe you meant Lag, Leg, Lig, Log, Lug, Ltd, LTM, lag, leg, log, lug, ltm, lt, tlg, gtg, rtg, itg, etg, ltc, lte or lto?
[19:13] <magespawn> Podcast
[19:13] <Kilos> oh not love the geek
[19:14] <magespawn> But eats the data.
[19:14] <kbmonkey> I could make a greeting bot but would prefer to integrate with maz, which is tricky atm 
[19:14] <superfly> Kilos: that's what mrs_fly does ;-)
[19:14] <Kilos> what superfly ?
[19:14] <magespawn> Hey superfly back again.
[19:14] <Kilos> talks geek?
[19:14] <superfly> Kilos: mrs_fly loves the geek :-)
[19:14] <Kilos> rofl
[19:14] <kbmonkey> magespawn: webGL is using javascript to access your graphics card functions in a web page
[19:15] <superfly> magespawn: yeah, was busy dealing with a toddler downstairs
[19:15] <kbmonkey> like so: http://kbmonkey.blinkenshell.org/three.js/tutorial-01.html
[19:15] <Kilos> well said
[19:15]  * magespawn googles webgl
[19:16] <magespawn> Superfly lucky the toddler was downstairs
[19:17] <magespawn> kbmonkey so super fast graphics with out flash.
[19:17] <kbmonkey> exactly magespawn 
[19:17] <kbmonkey> no plugins, no dependencies
[19:18] <kbmonkey> ties in with the new HTML5 spec
[19:18] <kbmonkey> open source XD
[19:18] <magespawn> Nice, any html5 ready browser cam do it?
[19:19] <superfly> kbmonkey: technically not open source, but an open standard
[19:19] <kbmonkey> yes. chrome, firefox, opera in the pipes. IE strangely hasn't said anything about support yet
[19:19] <magespawn> Wonder why. Probable seeing if they can get silverlight to run it.
[19:21] <kbmonkey> you can see a load of cool examples at https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/
[19:22] <kbmonkey> I cant find the ibid meeting source. some geek I am :p
[19:22] <Kilos> lol ask the crash kid
[19:23] <Kilos> oh he be married now not a kid any more
[19:23] <magespawn> Only the Firefox on my flyer can render your first link
[19:24] <kbmonkey> oh silly me, should check the site and not the repos
[19:24] <magespawn> Rotating wire globe?
[19:24] <kbmonkey> yes
[19:24] <kbmonkey> your browser supports it!
[19:25] <Kilos> you mean for plugins for ibid kbmonkey ?
[19:25] <kbmonkey> found the tar for ibid Kilos 
[19:25] <magespawn> Yup the default browser, and the dolphin browser on android do not see it properly.
[19:25] <magespawn> Only Firefox.
[19:26] <magespawn> Unistalled opera earlier today.
[19:30] <kbmonkey> aah, it seems like a class attribute 'addressed' controls how the plugin receives indirect events.
[19:33] <kbmonkey> its chocolate weekend
[19:33] <Kilos> shh
[19:49] <Kilos> night kbmonkey magespawn superfly and lurkers
[19:49] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:52] <kbmonkey> isco!
[19:52] <kbmonkey> Disco!
[20:08] <kbmonkey> aha, got the greeter recognizing newcomers :D
[20:09] <magespawn> Cool kbmonkey
[20:10] <magespawn> Is Maaz running it now?
[20:10] <kbmonkey> no, im running it in a local irc server
[20:11] <kbmonkey> there are a couple use cases I need to run over
[20:11] <magespawn> If you send it to me with instructions I'll pu it on gc_
[20:11] <kbmonkey> for example, how it will handle on first load
[20:12] <kbmonkey> configuring greeting responses
[20:12] <magespawn> Okay 
[20:12] <kbmonkey> and possibly a notification system to track who it greeted recently
[20:12] <kbmonkey> but that is all fluff
[20:12] <magespawn> Good idea.
[20:12] <superfly> kbmonkey: can you show the code?
[20:13] <kbmonkey> for that, I need to learn the Ibid database methods first
[20:13] <magespawn> When you work out a way let me know
[20:13] <superfly> doesn't ibid use SQLAlchemy?
[20:14] <magespawn> I am out off here for now, good night all.
[20:14] <kbmonkey> gn magespawn 
[20:15] <kbmonkey> it uses SqLite, Mysql or Portgre iirc superfly 
[20:15] <kbmonkey> http://ompldr.org/vZDl0dA
[20:15] <kbmonkey> the hook was setting the 'addressed' attribute so the plugin sees messages even if not addressed directly
[20:15] <superfly> kbmonkey: yes, but via SQLAlchemy. SQLAlchemy is a database ORM
[20:15] <kbmonkey> ooh, okay, I dont know too much about SQLAlchemy to distinguish :) thanks
[20:16] <kbmonkey> I also register to receive state events, to catch when people join
[20:24] <superfly> ah
[21:02] <kbmonkey> do you know superfly, each plugin has it's own db fiel right?
[21:02] <kbmonkey> *file
[21:05] <superfly> I don't know...