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viktorskel, did the following, is that correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/foto1.JPG00:00
viktorskel, i need to reboot now?00:00
daniellogso if I use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID for server 11.10 I should get it working with raid?00:00
skelviktor: no it should be immediate, the first path is known to gnome and isn't directly relative to the filesystem. The second is. So if you do ls -l /Pictures/foto1.JPG does that exist?00:01
ajinwhy my adsl speed is so slow under ubuntu10.04 while 10.10 is much more faster?00:01
viktorskel, yes, i already ls that directory, i'll try another pic00:01
viktorskel,?: viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/30062012.jpg00:02
viktorviktor@viktor-laptop:~$: command not found00:02
skelviktor: I'm trying to find a script I used to have in cron that rotated through a dir of wallpapers00:03
psusithere's no need for a separate /boot drive00:03
psusidaniellog, what are you trying to do now?  is this fakeraid or software raid?00:03
skelviktor: you miscopied..00:03
sckauterguys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....00:04
daniellogwell I've been told fakeraid now, hang on I'll try and get a spec of my board and find out what chipset it is00:04
sacarlsonpsusi: he's using /dev/mapper so that implies he's setting up a linux soft raid00:05
sckauterwhat i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?00:05
psusisacarlson, no, /dev/mapper is fakeraid, or LVM... /dev/mdXX is soft raid00:05
daniellogThe board I'm using is a ASRock N68C-S00:06
viktorskel, is this correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /Pictures/30062012.jpg00:06
tyler_dhello there folks. breaking stuff I hope00:06
psusidaniellog, if you are trying to use the chipset raid, then it's fakeraid... are you dual booting with windows?00:06
sckauteri've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(00:06
daniellogno, just trying to install ubuntu server00:06
skelviktor: yeah as long as you're not putting the viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ part00:06
FoggalongHey00:06
viktorskel, no00:06
FoggalongCan anyone help me00:06
tyler_dsure00:06
tyler_dFoggalong: where are you at?00:07
psusidaniellog, then I would avoid the fakeraid junk... destroy the raid array in the bios and proceed with a normal ubuntu server software raid setup00:07
FoggalongWith a basic outline for installing programs00:07
FoggalongI've got complely lost in it all00:07
Monotokodoes anyone know how I can get an installable Thunderbird 11 for Ubuntu 10.04?00:07
tyler_dFoggalong: I need to know more then that plz, what application are you trying to install?00:08
daniellogok cool, could anyone point me to some tutorial or something on setting this up?00:08
daniellogsoftware raid that is00:08
sckauterguys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(00:08
FoggalongWay of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird00:08
psusidaniellog, I think someone already pasted the link... scroll up a bit00:08
Ashtray777I need to install Ubuntu today.  Should I install 11.1 or 12.04?00:08
Foggalongtyler_d: Way of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird00:08
daniellogyes but its for 9.10, will this work with 11.10?00:09
tyler_dFoggalong: this is on server?00:09
psusiAshtray777, depends on whether you want to install a beta or not00:09
Foggalongtyler_d: I can't seem to get either to work00:09
Foggalongtyler_d: No00:09
psusidaniellog, should00:09
mkultra_mozilla needs to bring back the calender00:09
tyler_dFoggalong: sorry, mixed up there with someone... how are nyou trying to install? 32 or 64?00:09
tyler_dmkultra_: lightning00:10
Ashtray777I dont mind it being Beta, but will it be a smooth transition to the 12.4 Final release or will I need a fresh install of 12.4 anyway regardless if I already have the Beta installed00:10
Foggalongtyler_d: As far as I know, 3200:10
psusidaniellog, the gist of it is that you tell the installer to create a raid array out of the individual disks, then install to the raid array00:10
daniellogok thanks guys for your help, I'll try the software raid00:10
zykotick9!final | Ashtray77700:10
ubottuAshtray777: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1.00:10
sckauterwhat is the latest stable kernel for ubuntu 10.04?00:10
tyler_dFoggalong: are you installing from terminal or from the software center?00:10
mkultra_the mozilla calendar was boss00:10
Ashtray777zykotick9, I understand that all the packages will be updated.  But some people prefer a fresh install.00:11
zykotick9!info linux-image lucid | sckauter00:11
ubottusckauter: linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.32.40.47 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel)00:11
Foggalongtyler_d: Well, neither are in the software centre so I'll have to say from terminal. Which is where I get stuck.00:11
viktorskel, viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename00:11
zykotick9Ashtray777: from beta->final isn't an upgrade (fresh install doesn't apply in this case)00:11
d[-_-]bHello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle00:11
tyler_dFoggalong: ok, so you downloaded the package(s) and extracted to where please?00:11
viktorskel, that didn't come through00:11
Ashtray777zyotick9 oh okay thanks!  That explains it!  Much appreciated!00:12
zykotick9!tab > Ashtray777 fyi00:12
ubottuAshtray777, please see my private message00:12
viktorskel, that command returned the path of a pic i was trying to use to replace the vector-based one00:12
Foggalongtyler_d: both are on the desktop00:12
skelviktor: hm ok, I don't use gnome2 anymore so I can't test this. Maybe try to keep asking and I'll see if I can find my old script00:12
viktorskel, so i'm gonna try a reboot, maybe it takes affect then00:13
sckauterguys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(00:13
tyler_dFoggalong: so in the terminal when you cd to ~/Desktop/<<folder>> you are running which?00:13
mkultra_....00:13
sckauterand i dont know what im doing wrong00:13
Ashtray777zykotick9, yes the tab key.  thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten.00:13
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tyler_dFoggalong: and what is the output?00:13
mkultra_gksu jockey-gtk00:13
mkultra_install drivers via jockey00:13
Foggalongtyler_d: Sorry, I don't understand what you just said :(00:14
tyler_dFoggalong: in the terminal, you changed directory and ran what command?00:15
BathOryxtyler_d: I thought the cd command doesn't return anything.00:15
Foggalongtyler_d: I didn't do anything in terminal, but as they're not in the centre I think that will be the way to install them00:15
Foggalongtyler_d: But I don't have a clue how to even begin00:16
viktorthat didn't work...00:17
skelviktor: I found the script I used, putting it up on pastebin00:18
skelviktor: don't get your hopes up though, it just uses the same tool =/00:18
Viking667has anyone ever managed to get mpd to work as a service using pulseaudio?00:18
tensorpuddingyes00:19
tensorpuddingonce upon a time i was using mpd and pulseaudio00:19
Viking667... because I'm having the devil's own time trying to do so. mpd is outright unable to connect to the pulseaudio server, end of.00:19
viktorskel, hmm, thnks, strange that it hasn't worked yet though, the path for the wallpaper is set for what it's supposed to be now00:19
Viking667funnily enough, the only way I can get this to work is if I set up mpd to use alsa instead. Which plays havoc with everything else wanting to use pulseaudio00:20
tyler_dFoggalong: umm you need to do cd ~/Desktop/00:20
skelviktor: http://pastebin.com/xJvjve5e00:20
kandinskils00:20
tyler_dFoggalong: wahts the name of the folder... sorry for the delay, just on the phone00:20
Viking667tensorpudding: do you remember what steps you took?00:20
viktorskel, thnks, btw,  you don't need to sudo for gconftool-2?00:20
TasmaniaHey.00:20
tyler_dBathOryx: no cd does not return anything00:21
TasmaniaIf I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox.00:21
skelviktor: nope, not if its your desktop and not another users session00:21
kandinskiI can't import pygame from python3 on ubuntu 11.1000:21
Viking667oh, and I don't seem to have a "System" menu either, just "Applications" and "Places"00:21
TasmaniaHow can I connect my vps through putty?00:21
Foggalongtyler_d:00:21
TasmaniaIf I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox, how can I connect to my vps through putty?00:22
FoggalongThe folders are called sunbird00:22
Foggalongtyler_d: It's fine. The folders are called sunbird and n_v1linux00:22
Viking667I"ll be right back, while I change things back to normal00:22
tyler_dTasmania: bridged network?00:22
tyler_dFoggalong: so cd into sunbird00:22
sacarlsonTasmania: install openssh-server on your virtualbox host00:23
Tasmaniaok.00:23
Tasmaniatutorial link?00:23
Viking667Bah. I need to log out, as I'm changing /etc/passwd... every time I change thatsucker, everything on my desktop gets logged out.00:23
sacarlsonTasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh ;00:23
tyler_dopenssh-server00:23
sacarlsonopps openssh-server00:24
TasmaniaI00:24
tyler_d;) sacarlson00:24
TasmaniaI'm using a GUI-based one, not a command line.00:24
Foggalongtyler_d: ok, done that00:24
Viking667sorry about that, all.00:25
zykotick9sacarlson: tyler_d "ssh" is a handy meta-package with both client and server00:25
TasmaniaHow can I instlall open-ssh into my virtual box?00:25
tyler_dFoggalong: pastebin the output of `ls` please00:25
tyler_dzykotick9: ty00:25
sacarlsonTasmania: wow do you know how to open a terminal in your vitualbox host?00:25
tyler_dzykotick9: would ubuntu by default not contain client?00:25
Viking667tyler_d: probably00:26
sckauterWhat this mean?00:26
urbancommandolol00:26
TasmaniaHow can I open a terminal?00:26
sckautersckauter@Uby:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig00:26
sckauterWARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.00:26
sckauterNew X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'00:26
Foggalongtyler_d: Sorry, but you're going to have to explain that in lamens terms. I've not used terminal before00:26
zykotick9tyler_d: not sure... depends if you start with mini or not ;)00:26
tyler_dzykotick9: fair enough00:26
tyler_dFoggalong: type, ls00:26
gdoteofso.. i have ubuntu 11.10  i am running gnome with xmonad as my window manager; no unity.  i was having this problem before switching to xmonad though.  i have a trackpad, i have turned off tap-to-click and turned on two finger scrolling00:26
TasmaniaHow can I open my terminal sorry I just got this thing today.00:26
tyler_dFoggalong: then copy the output of that command to !pastebin00:26
gdoteofbut approximately half the time i boot up my computer; tap-to-click is on, and side scroling instead of two finger scrolling is enabled00:26
tyler_d!pastebin00:26
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:26
sacarlsonTasmania: if you select the window of the virtualbox system you should be able to <ctl><alt> t ;  to open a term window in it00:27
Tasmaniaok00:27
Tasmaniathanks!00:27
Foggalongtyler_d: what's !pastebin?00:27
gdoteofit seems that half the time that i boot up, the 'defaults' load and the other half its as i set them. it makes no sense.00:27
tyler_d!pastebin | Foggalong00:27
ubottuFoggalong: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:27
Viking667Foggalong: it's a message to a bot here to cough up a factlet.00:28
Viking667 i.e. ubottu.00:28
Viking667!help00:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:28
Viking667see how it works now?00:28
TasmaniaIt's still not working.00:28
TasmaniaNothing is coming up00:28
taekOhai00:28
tyler_dtaek: ohai00:28
Tasmaniasacarlson I did what you said and nothing is still coming up.00:29
taekforgot irssi was running lol00:29
Foggalongtyler_d: I don't understand. How do I go to !pastebin?00:29
gdoteofTasmania: i believe ctrl+alt+t will open a terminal00:29
tyler_dFoggalong: click the link from above.00:29
sacarlsonTasmania: what version of ubuntu are you running in virtualbox?00:29
gdoteofmaybe ctrl+shift+t00:29
Viking667Foggalong: first off, you go to the link in that line (http://paste.ubuntu.com) in a web browser.00:29
TasmaniaI'm using Oracle VM Virtualboc Manager.00:29
urbancommandolol00:30
Viking667Foggalong: then you go back to the terminal, type in the command (ls >> outputfile) and switch back to the browser.00:30
Viking667then you paste the contents of outputfile into the right place on the webpage00:30
sacarlsonTasmania: no I mean what is running inside the vitual manager what verson of ubuntu ?00:31
Tasmaniahmm.00:31
Viking667Foggalong: does that all make sense?00:31
Tasmaniaohh00:31
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TasmaniaI'm using 11.0400:31
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sacarlsonTasmania: then it will be running unity so you can hit that top symbol along the side called dash home00:32
AMIGASwhat is dock?00:32
FoggalongViking667: I think so thanks :)00:32
Viking667AMIGAS: you haven't given us enough context.00:33
Foggalongtyler_d: This is what I go http://paste.ubuntu.com/915359/00:33
sacarlsonTasmania: and type term in the search and select term icon when it is displayed00:33
Monotokobye all!00:33
Tasmaniawait.00:33
TasmaniaIt's still opening.00:33
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Viking667 Foggalong you might have to display your file in some sort of editing program so you can cut and paste it into the page00:33
sacarlsonTasmania: oh it wasn't running yet?00:33
Tasmanianope.00:33
TasmaniaAlright now it's running.00:34
sacarlsonTasmania: then maybe it's not even installed yet?00:34
Viking667If you've got gedit, you could use that. But any GUI editing program ought to work00:34
AMIGASviking667: when you go in openbox configure manager you will see it00:34
tyler_dFoggalong: so what happens when you just type ./sunbird00:34
Viking667hm. Thank you. I don't use openbox, that's why I asked.00:34
Viking667because the term "dock" has multiple meanings.00:34
AMIGASoh00:35
djskiddhello all00:35
TasmaniaAlright now I've opened terminal.00:35
djskiddI may need your help in a half hour to an hour00:35
Viking667AMIGAS: as in, it's used for an action as well as a place00:35
Tasmaniasacarlson I've opened up terminal.00:35
sacarlsonTasmania: are you just running a live cd in virtualbox or is it already installed inside it?00:36
Viking667anyway, I'm heading off, I can't seem to get my head around playing music AND getting audio out of another program00:36
TasmaniaInstalled00:36
Foggalongtyler_d: It opens! :O Sunbird just opens. Will it always work like that? And can I just do the same for other programs?00:36
AMIGASviking667: it houses apps00:36
heater89if i use the system call "sbrk()" and it returns a void*, how can i check that it hasn't returned -1 without getting a "comparison between pointer and integer" compiler error?00:36
sacarlsonTasmania: ok then you should now be able to install openssh-server00:36
tyler_dFoggalong: some applications require that you "install" them00:36
TasmaniaWhat's the command?00:37
tyler_dFoggalong: others will simply run00:37
Foggalongtyler_d: I don't seem to be able to keep a Sunbird icon in the launch bar00:37
tyler_dFoggalong: different people have different opinions on where stand-alone apps should be kept but mine are all in /opt/00:37
sacarlsonTasmania: I forget I will have to scroll my window up to find it00:37
Tasmaniaok00:37
djskiddIs anyone seeding the torrent for 12.04?00:38
tyler_dFoggalong: that I don't know about00:38
tyler_dFoggalong: are you saying while its running00:38
djskiddNvm,  it seems that uTorrent is laggy today00:38
FoggalongNo00:39
FoggalongWhen it's not00:39
sacarlsonTasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh-server00:39
Foggalongtyler_d: No, when it's not00:39
Foggalongtyler_d: I can't keep a permenant icon to it00:40
tyler_dFoggalong: are you talking about a quick launch00:40
tyler_dFoggalong: ahh00:40
TasmaniaNow what do I do?00:40
Tasmaniasacarlson: what do I do now?00:40
sacarlsonTasmania: so it installed ok?00:41
Tasmaniayes.00:41
Foggalongtyler_d: Yeah, quick launch! Yeah, sorry. Still quite new to all this00:41
sacarlsonTasmania: so now find out what your ip address of your virtualhost is with  the command  ifconfig00:41
Tasmaniaipconfig00:41
Tasmaniaoops00:41
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TasmaniaNow what's my IP?00:42
urbancommandolol00:42
Guest65025hi00:42
sacarlsonTasmania: it will be the inet address example inet addr:192.168.2.25000:42
TasmaniaI've found it.00:43
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Tasmanianow do I login with root in putty?00:43
plaHi. I just installed 12.04 beta 2. Why does it ask to go through a partial upgrade when I start-up the Update Manager?00:43
sacarlsonTasmania: yes now you can login to that address from putty00:43
Tasmaniaok00:43
tyler_dFoggalong: alt-f2 then00:43
tyler_dgnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop00:43
bazhangpla #ubuntu+1 for that00:44
plak00:44
TasmaniaThe connection is timing out?00:44
Tasmaniawhy is that?00:45
tyler_dFoggalong: nm00:45
Tasmaniasacarlson: is it under local or whatever eth0 is?00:45
sacarlsonTasmania: I'm not sure can you ping that address from windows?00:45
tyler_dFoggalong: tbh I have never done that, I would recommend asking anyone else in here00:45
sacarlsonTasmania: you should use the eth0 address00:45
Tasmaniayeah, I used that.00:45
TasmaniaAnd It's not working.00:46
sacarlsonTasmania: no ping?00:46
TasmaniaHow can I ping it?00:46
FoggalongCan anyone help with a problem I'm having? The quicklaunch icon for Sunbird goes dead everytime I close the program00:46
Foggalongtyler_d: THanks for all the help :)00:46
sacarlsonTasmania: from a term in windows  ping <theeth0address>00:46
bazhangFoggalong, what about right click keep on panel00:47
tyler_dFoggalong: yqw, try00:47
tyler_dyay, what bazhang just said00:47
TasmaniaNow how can I do that what do I open/run?00:47
Foggalongbazhang: Yeah, that get's it there, but then that just goes dead if I close the program00:47
sacarlsonTasmania: you don't know how to open a command window in windows?00:47
TasmaniaI do.00:48
urbancommandoTasmania use the command prompt00:48
Tasmaniacommand prompt00:48
Tasmania^00:48
Tasmaniaoh ok.00:48
TasmaniaYou should've said "open the command prompt" you didn't clarify yourself.00:48
BathOryxurbancommando: I thought that's called a terminal...00:49
sacarlsonTasmania: sorry I'm not savy to windows terminology00:49
TasmaniaIt says Request timed out.00:49
BathOryxOh nvm...00:49
TasmaniaIt keeps saying that in the command window.00:49
sacarlsonTasmania: and what is the address of the virtualbox?00:50
urbancommandoBath0ryx hes trying to ping from window to a ubuntu vituralbox00:50
GanymedeQuestion about the iptables-persistent package...it looks like in /etc/init.d/iptables-persistent, only v4 rules are restored by the init script so what of v6 rules?00:50
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z1llasplit00:52
GH0I am currently using iptables, however after a restart, my iptables list gets wiped/cleaned from something (not sure what). Is there a place to put an iptables command to automatically be accepted/used/applied after a reboot?00:53
z1llagood question00:53
sacarlsonTasmania:  I guess you need to find out how to enable networks on virtualbox in windows some how00:53
sacarlsonTasmania: or it's posible you have some kind of firewall running on the windows side that could cause a problem00:54
TasmaniaYeah I do.00:54
superjoewhere's the wine menu in unity?00:54
TasmaniaI have firewall enabled.00:54
GanymedeGH0: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup although it makes absolutely no mention of ip6tables oddly.00:56
tlabanyone dual booted ubuntu and win7 on a ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3.. I'm worried due to the uefi that I won't be able to install it or I'll loose dual boot00:57
boxbeatsyhi, my ubuntu 10.04 will not boot! when i restart it, it starts loading grub and i get this message: "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. No init fount. Try passing init= bootarg."  any ideas?00:57
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boxbeatsyi'v tried booting from a live usb to see what's wrong, but then i get stuck on the splash screen, which i think is an independent problem.  any hep would be greatly appreciated.00:58
TasmaniaHow can I install Irssi in the terminal?01:04
FireboltTasmania, sudo apt-get install irssi01:04
decksmashertasmania   apt-get install irssi01:04
sckauteri cant fix my screen resolution01:05
bazhangsckauter, using xrandr ?01:05
chipv12i am having trouble figuring out how to setup vpn connection between my laptop and a desktop at home.  i would like to access all functions of my desktop remotely including web cam if connected.  also run programs remotely as if using remote desktop viewer.  is this possible?01:05
sckauterxrandr?01:05
sckautersorry i dunno what is xrand01:06
TasmaniaThanks it works!01:06
sckauterim using ubuntu 10.04, machine Alienware Mx17 r301:06
bazhang!xrandr | sckauter01:07
ubottusckauter: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1201:07
sckauterinstall uninstall nvidia drivers01:07
sckauterbazhang,  but i just have 1 screen01:07
sckauterok im going try01:07
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decksmasherTasmania when u downloaded it the files will be hidden so go in to the directory where its downloaded IE./home/yourname and press ctrl + h and the hidden files will appear there u can put in new themes for irssi01:10
hylianhmm, irssi has themes. i would think it a mute point being a cli app.01:11
sckauterthis is so frustrating01:11
TasmaniaFor any reason everytime I click on the text box for Irssi and type in "F" it doesn't type in the text box, but rather goes to the "Find" tab.01:11
boxbeatsyhi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5 to no avail, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escabe at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?01:11
sckautersmoke...brb...01:11
hylianTasmania, did you type f3?01:11
decksmasheryes irssi themes are here http://irssi.org/themes01:12
TasmaniaNope01:12
Tasmaniahylian it's doing the same thing.01:12
TasmaniaNothing has changes.01:13
Tasmania*changed01:13
FireboltTasmania, "f" or "F" or both?01:13
Tasmaniaboth01:13
decksmashertasmania x-chat is easier to use.?01:13
Tasmaniaeverytim I press f at all it does it.01:13
hylianso even if you click on the field for typeing, type your statement, and then start typing again, it defaults to the search section?... I think I need to be in irssi to visualise this, brb01:14
Tasmaniayes.01:14
TasmaniaI can't type anything.01:14
TasmaniaIt just goes to the tabs.01:14
TasmaniaIf I type in "s" it goes to the "search" tab01:14
TasmaniaIf I type in "e" it goes to the "Edit" tab01:15
TasmaniaIf I type in "v" it goes to the "view" tab01:15
GalaxorIs there a way to lock my gnome-keyring?  As it is, I type my password once, and my gpg key stays unlocked until I log out.01:15
TasmaniaYou get my point?01:15
urbancommandotry clicking on the text field and hit the enter key before typing01:16
hylianok i am here via irssi01:16
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TasmaniaNothing.01:16
hylianTasmania: what search option? i don't see it?01:17
TasmaniaIt01:17
TasmaniaIt's not a search option.01:17
Sactagehylian: perhaps it's an issue with terminal01:17
Sactages/terminal/his terminal/01:17
SactageI'm on irssi right now as well, no problems here01:17
hylianSactage: yeah, that is definetly a possibility.01:17
SactageSounds like it]01:18
hylianTasmania: are you using a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, or are you tty'ed in via control alt f1, for instance?01:18
Tasmaniaterminal emulator.01:19
Sactageworks fine for me in gnome-terminal01:19
TasmaniaIt's probably something that is enabled.01:19
hylianTasmania: is there a way we could get a screen shot of this?01:19
Sactage(but I'm also ssh'd in to my box and on screen)01:19
TasmaniaIt's not that complicated.01:20
TasmaniaI just need to press a button somewhere.01:20
Sactagefind it?01:20
hylianSactage: actually, i am using gnome-terminal as well. and I also use irssi quite often from tty, so either way i don't get this error... hmmm01:20
Sactagemhm, I've never had problems from tty either01:21
hylianTasmania: if you hit print screen, or prtsc on the top right of your keyboard, you should get an option for screenshot. or if you hear a camera shutter sound, it automatically saved it to /home/tasmania/Pictures/01:21
Sactagehylian: the shutter sound doesn't mean it auto-saves, it still brings the prompt for where to save it to me01:22
TasmaniaIt's fixed.01:22
TasmaniaAll I needed to press was "ctrl+alt"01:23
TasmaniaThank you for your help :D01:23
hylianSactage: unless you messed around with the settings like me, in which case it autosaves. i don't know how much tweaking tas has done.01:23
anonymous_which room should i go to for server help?01:23
zykotick9anonymous_: ubuntu server?  here, or #ubuntu-server.01:24
excelsior!ot01:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:24
hyliananonymous_: don't know. if it's ubuntu-server, i would think technically this would be the place. let me search the channels to see if i can find a specific room01:24
z1llahi01:24
anonymous_well i hope to make my desktop be a server01:24
hylianexcelsior: um, who is off topic?01:25
hylianzilla: hi01:25
excelsior!guidelines | excelsior01:25
ubottuexcelsior, please see my private message01:25
zykotick9!msgthebot > excelsior01:25
hyliananonymous_: well, in many ways it all ready is. you would have to be way more specific about that question.01:25
mkultra_hi im back, im usually off topic =D01:25
mkultra_unetbootin is a GREAT util01:26
anonymous_well i have an old compaq desktop and i want it to be basically just a network or online storage device01:26
anonymous_and devote it to just that01:26
Sactagehylian: well, it'd probably best to assume he's done none, then :)01:27
hyliananonymous_: well if it's just going to sit in a corner and feed data, you are definitly gonna want to go back to ubuntu.com and get the server edition. it will be so much less crashy. unless you need/want a gui.01:28
anonymous_ok thnx01:28
hylianSactage: i think tas is gone.01:28
hylianTasmania: how is the screenshot coming along?01:29
TasmaniaIt's nothing it's ok now.01:29
TasmaniaIt's fixed.01:29
TasmaniaI fixed it by pressing "alt+ctrl"01:30
hylianTasmania: good to hear it. :)01:30
TasmaniaIt's good now.01:30
hylianin that case im gonna go back to xchat.01:30
hylianhas anyone else been using indicator-weather? it sure is crashy in 12.04 beta.01:31
zykotick9hylian: if you are using 12.04 please use #ubuntu+1 for support01:32
allie83is there another room for xubuntu?01:32
bazhang#xubuntu allie8301:33
allie83:) thanks01:33
hylianzykotick9, it was more of a "i noticed this" not a support quetion, but thanks zykotick9.01:34
chipv12is it possible to remotely access and control my desktop from internet securely with my laptop without subscribing to a service?01:34
zykotick9hylian: ok, then please use #ubuntu+1 for discussion ;)01:34
Zalchipv12, absolutely01:34
Zalchipv12, you can use ssh for secure command line01:35
zykotick9Zal: ssh also has xforwarding for GUI... just sayin'.  chipv1201:35
Zalchipv12, and vnc or nx tunneled over ssh for remote graphical access01:35
Zalzykotick9, true that01:35
Zalthough nx is probably a bit smoother01:35
x_chrHi. My CD Drive has a disc in it. Disk Utility shows it (/dev/sr0), but pressing Eject gives "No media in drive" error, the physical eject button does nothing, and trying to mount /dev/sr0 seems to hang. The 'eject' command says "unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'" Any suggestions?01:36
mydogsnameisrudychipv12:  look up teamview01:36
ZalI use X forwarding over ssh for LAN stuff all the time though01:36
chipv12i have been trying to setup a vpn but cant seem to get it right01:36
boxbeatsyhi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escape at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?01:36
decksmasherx_chr try using force quit01:37
hylianx_chr, never heard of that before. i could do some digging if you like. can you read any data from that cd?01:37
z1llafacedesk01:37
ChartreusePossessedMuffin01:37
x_chrdecksmasher: force quit what?01:37
x_chrhylian: I'd check on a different computer if I could open the drive :) It has read discs in the past successfully.01:37
hylianx_chr, well i was not referring to the device. hmmm. for now if you have a paperclip, you can put it in the small hole on the front of the device, and then open it that way.01:40
hylianx_chr, i have seen this when people accidentally insert 2 cd's in a one cd tray.01:41
chipv12i'll look at teamview again, but doesnt that require oking at each pc every time they connect?01:42
x_chrhylian: Pretty sure I didn't do that, but I'm working on forcing it open now.01:42
boxbeatsyanyone? :\01:43
TasmaniaWhat is the sudo script for Xchat?01:44
Tasmania*What is the sudo command for X-chat?01:44
AMIGASsudo apt-get install x-chart01:44
z1llalol01:45
x_chrhylian: I'm going to restart my computer and open it while it boots. be back.01:45
z1llasudo x-chat01:45
z1llasudo su01:45
z1llathen history -c01:45
z1llaerrr01:45
z1llai spoke too much01:45
bazhangz1lla, no thats wrong01:46
z1llawhat is it then?01:46
bazhangz1lla, first of all you never use xchat as root, second you never use su01:46
chipv12took notes doing some more reading....thanks01:46
z1llai was just answering the fella's question01:47
bazhangz1lla, he wanted to know the terminal command to *install* xchat01:47
hylianzilla, you must use sudo or be cursed. kidding :)01:47
z1llalol i didnt read the entire chat01:48
hylianzilla, sudo apt-get install xchat01:48
z1llapardon my english01:48
bazhangz1lla, then please dont answer if you are not certain01:48
Coffee_alguem aqui poderia me ajudar?01:48
z1llasorry01:48
z1llai'll leave if it happens again01:48
hyliansomeone please tell Coffee_ how to get to the spanish channel01:48
hylianzilla, we apprecaite your interest in helping :)01:49
hylian!sp01:49
hylian!spanish01:49
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.01:49
TasmaniaEven sudo apt-get install xchat doesn't want to work.01:49
hylianTasmania, what does it do?01:50
x_chrhylian: Hmm... as suspected, it depends on the disc. Are you aware of a situation where certain disks cause the drive to stop working properly?01:50
Tasmaniaoh never mind01:50
Tasmaniasome dude gave me X-chat instead of xchat01:50
hylianx_chr, no. I have seen this on windows when the disc is formatted strangely, but I haven't seen this on ubuntu as of yet...01:51
hylianTasmania, you seem to fix your problems better than we can. :)01:52
urbancommandolol01:52
x_chrhylian: I'm going through my old CDs. This is a random DVD-R. It could have degraded...01:52
TasmaniaI just rush into things at times.01:52
TasmaniaSorry if I'm annoying you.01:52
hylianx_chr, it also could be timing out because of scratches or a damaged device. I don't do much with cd's anymore, maybe that's why I havent noticed this01:53
hylianTasmania, not me. I am always glad to help.:)01:53
x_chrhylian: Yeah, that might be right, though it seems like it's *not* timing out when it should be.01:54
scottja command like xdg-open or gnome-open that doesn't exit till the launched app exits? or a command to lookup the opener for a file but not actually launch it?01:55
mr-squidleyx_chr: had this problem when music cd was left in the car... i just put it down to being warped from the heat .... but i could be wrong haha down with cd01:55
x_chrhylian: Damn. It's doing it again now... Yeah, good thing I don't use optical media too much any more.01:56
hylianx_chr, has it been all cd's, or just recorded dvd's?01:56
Tasmaniahylian I can't DCC send exploit, sorry.01:57
x_chrhylian: Seems to be only recorded DVD-Rs.01:58
x_chrhylian: But decidedly not all01:58
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TasmaniaI can't view txt files.01:58
hylianx_chr, i think i understand what the other dude was talking about. you might get the tray open if you killed the process trying to open the dvd. i'm not certain what process that would be, but it would be easy to do with something like htop.01:58
hylianTasmania, it was just a cute little picture i made with cowsay.01:59
TasmaniaYou're going to need to upload it somewhere so I can be able to see it.01:59
hylianTasmania, maybe they aren't set with a default app? like gedit?01:59
Tasmaniahmm.01:59
x_chrhylian: Aha.02:00
TasmaniaUbuntu does that?02:00
hylianTasmania, ohh, never mind. no, the image i was trying to send you is a png.02:00
hylianTasmania, yeah, you can open .txt with gedit.02:00
hylianTasmania, yeah, if you right click a file, then choose properties, you can set a default app to open it.02:01
TasmaniaWhatever file that can't be open with another program, it does not show it at all when you browse its parent folder?02:01
hylianx_chr, aha? is that a good aha!02:01
allie83i seem to have better luck with you friendly folks... :) facebook games are saying i need adobe flash 10 or greater, i have 11.2...how do i resolve this please?02:01
z1llaall i can do is install linux02:01
x_chrhylian: It's an 'ah, yeah, that might have done it,' Though still tempered by the fact that my drive just isn't reading some stuff.02:01
z1llai'm not h4x0r02:02
hylianx_chr, hmm, you know the way I would handle this would be to first dump this dvd-r in a nother ubuntu machine to see if i can replicate the error. is that a possibility?02:02
mister_mcan I tell gnome to remember what I have open when I log out?02:03
hylianallie83, hmm, what browser are you using?02:03
x_chrhylian: Worst case I can do that on my (mac) laptop and transfer, yeah.02:03
allie83why thank you ...firefox02:03
hylianmister_m, i think you can do that by saving the session. never tried it before though,.02:03
Chamunkswhat repository would contain sun-java6-jre02:03
Chamunksfor some reason my default repos are not capable of giving me this package and im about to ragequit over it.02:04
hylianChamunks, you need to activate the extras repo, give me a second...02:04
Chamunkshylian, thank you a load.02:04
Chamunksyou have no idea I'm having to deal with a terrible vps host that a friend of mine used and they are just the worst people.02:04
zykotick9!java | Chamunks sun-java is no longer in repos02:04
ubottuChamunks sun-java is no longer in repos: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.02:04
mister_mhylian: how do I save a session02:05
ChamunksI am looking to run a minecraft server02:05
Chamunksand need the jre...02:05
allie83hylian: i have firefox02:05
allie83and you're very busy02:05
Chamunkswould jdk do the same things jre does I would imagine not :S02:05
hylianmister_m, to be honest i don't know. I have never done it. i could google it, but i'm not familiar with the process.02:05
hylianChamunks, it's pretty easy to get to if you have synaptic. i can't think of the old software sources program name...02:06
ChamunksI only have console02:06
Chamunksaccess02:06
hylianChamunks, jdk is the java development kit. it's great if your gonna do some hacking. openjdk works beatiful unless your gonna use some special stuff like minecraft.02:07
hylianallie83, did you just update?02:07
Chamunksopenjdk will not work correctly with minecraft servers.02:07
itaylor57Chamunks, jre is run time, jdk is to compile, and includes jre02:07
hylian Chamunks yeah, that is what I was getting too.02:07
Chamunksitaylor57, thanks I will try jdk02:07
hylianitaylor57, thanks man!02:08
allie83hylian:yes..just finished install02:08
Chamunksitaylor57, has no installation candidate.02:08
ChamunksFuuuuuuuu02:08
k_szeCan the command-line sftp client resume file transfers?02:08
hylianallie83, i would try and reboot real quick. the possibilities are 1) firefox has not actually shut down yet, or 2) the update will not fully take affect until restart.02:08
itaylor57!java | Chamunks shows how to get which ever java you want02:09
ubottuChamunks shows how to get which ever java you want: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.02:09
allie83hylian:thanks ..will do :)02:09
myrChamunks, try the sun java instead of open02:09
hylianChamunks, if your intention is to play minecraft, you will need sun's java plugin, not icedtea6 or openjdk.02:09
myrwhat he said ^^^^02:09
ChamunksI found a link thanks to ubbottu02:12
jeremiah_How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?02:12
hylianChamunks, you should be able to get to the software sources section through either synaptic, or the ubuntu software center. you will have to activate a repository there.'02:12
Chamunksthis should have theoretically fixed my issue http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en02:12
zykotick9hylian: sun-java is no longer in any ubuntu repository02:12
Chamunksit apparently provides a sun-java repo02:12
Chamunkshttp://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en02:12
hylianzykotick9, wow. it was there in 11.04... thanks for the heads up!02:13
zykotick9hylian: it was in 11.10 for a while...02:13
hylianChamunks, if you didn't see that post by zykotick9, i was wrong about the software sources way of doing this.02:13
jeremiah_How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?02:14
Chamunksthe link that I posted was in the ubottu response and it works perfectly :)02:14
Chamunksjava -version now echoes java version "1.6.0_31"02:14
itaylor57Chamunks, good for you02:14
hylianChamunks, thanks for the info. yeah, that deb package solution of there's should work like a charm, or did you use te binary files?02:15
Chamunksthanks #ubuntu you always save my arse in a pinch.02:15
ChamunksI just added the repo02:15
hylianChamunks, cool beans!02:15
Chamunksfrom duinsoft.nl02:15
Chamunksits more uptodate than the linux mint repos02:15
myrjeremiah_, try running it?02:17
jeremiah_myr, duh i meant hdd errors or other errors. i have installed it three times, three disks, three different websites that i got it from and all have died for me at one point or anther02:18
hylianjeremiah_, are you using cd, or usb key?02:19
myrjeremiah_,  did you check the md5sum of the download?02:19
jeremiah_hylian, when i installed it?cd.02:19
jeremiah_myr, no02:19
dr_willisuseing usb. makes things easier i find.02:20
hylianjeremiah_, what are the specs on that computer? how new/old is it?02:20
bobweaverhello there does anyone know if there is a --force-yes or --yes -y like in sudo apt-get -y install cowsay   so that it does not ask for the Y and just installs But I am looking for something like that with aptitude . Any ideas02:20
dr_willisi have had optical drives go semi bad on me also. wouldent read some disks at the ends.02:21
jeremiah_hylian, duel core 2.2 ghz intel processors 4gb ram02:21
hylianjeremiah_, so resources are not an issue here...02:21
jeremiah_hylian, hd compaq 6910p02:21
zykotick9bobweaver: "man aptitude" then "/" "yes" should show -y --assume-yes02:22
Laiamany idea why the brightness adjuster is broken in KDE on ubuntu?02:22
jeremiah_hylian, nope.02:22
bobweaverthanks zykotick9  !02:22
hylianI am thinking this might be a cd read error. even if the cd is burnt perfectly, the reading during install can be a problem. I know windows has the same issue. Is there any way you could try this with a usb stick? that's what I use for installing ubuntu on my machines.02:23
bobweaverzykotick9,  I did not know that you could do that in man pages kinda like wth less very cool thansk !02:23
zykotick9bobweaver: glad to help02:23
zykotick9bobweaver: it's "like vi" really ;)02:24
jonathanellisI have installed chromium-browser 17.0.963.83 (Developer Build 127885 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10 and it crashes randomly, sometimes as soon as I go to almost any website. I had a similar problem with google chrome, recently and I was advised to use chromium instead. Any thoughts, please?02:24
jeremiah_hylian,  i think something is wrong because everything just crashed for me....02:25
hylianjeremiah_, the other option, and this would be just to test the cd read error theory, would be to install a very small version of linux suxh as slitaz. (don't do this if your gonna use this machine for dual boot with windows, ubuntu is designed for this, slitaz is not.)02:25
jeremiah_hylian, no duel booting, so i find it in software cener or what?02:26
hylianjeremiah_, you where running ubuntu or windows, and it had an error? where you running the os from the hard drive?02:26
Jordan_Ujeremiah_: What type of freeze?02:27
jeremiah_hylian, only have ubuntu, and it is on my hdd02:27
philip__jonathanellis: there was a problem with the latest build of chromium that arrived yesterday. you can try to launch through terminal to see what's going on.02:27
jeremiah_jordan, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves02:28
hylianjeremiah_, did you see Jordan_U's question? how exactly did it freeze?02:28
jeremiah_hylian, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves02:28
totesmuhgoatswhat is the difference between vim.basic and vim.tiny?02:28
zykotick9totesmuhgoats: vim-tiny = vi02:28
hylianJordan_U, any suggestions? I am thinking a possible hard drive malfunction...02:29
totesmuhgoatsi guess vim.basic is what i want then02:29
zykotick9totesmuhgoats: if you like arrow keys, probably ;)02:29
jeremiah_hylian, forgot to mention, three different hdds02:29
jeremiah_hylian, all new.02:30
hylianjeremiah_, can you type control alt and f1? and then log in?02:30
totesmuhgoatszykotick9: seems to use the jhjkl fine02:30
zykotick9totesmuhgoats: but i'm not really sure what vim.basic is... i always install "vim" as my first order of businesss on a new install02:30
totesmuhgoatshjkl even02:30
jeremiah_hylian, what?02:30
hylianjeremiah_, WAIT,02:30
totesmuhgoatszykotick9: i have vim installed, but when i run crontab -e it isn't one of the options02:30
totesmuhgoatsalso, its just crontab so. eh02:31
totesmuhgoatshmm, looks like i might have uninstalled vim when i removed kde02:31
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hylianjeremiah_, control alt f1 will get you "tty mode 1" but to get back to regular screen, you need to type control alt f7. remember that. now, if you can go to control alt f1, then log in, and then go back to control alt f7, and tell me if it logged you in, and how fast..02:32
jeremiah_hylian, ok.02:32
myheroi m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?02:32
myheroany1 help02:33
myheroi m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?02:33
dr_willismyhero:  you are doing a normal install via booting the cd?02:33
Laiammyhero: did you leave free space after windows 7 on your drive? if you did then when installing you'll probably have to manually create your partitions02:33
myheroyes but with usb stick02:33
Laiammyhero: what version of ubuntu the latest?02:34
myherooneiric02:34
zykotick9Laiam: 11.10 is latest release, 12.04 is in beta02:34
myheroi installed win 7 in c: drive now i want to install ubuntu into d: drive02:34
scottjis there a user dir to put foo.desktop files so that I can associate commands of my choosing w/ mimetypes in xdg-open?02:34
Laiammyhero: ok you'll have to select the advanced or custom option for partitionin02:34
dr_willismyhero:  you have an empty d drive?02:35
Laiamzykotick9: some people don't like unity so much that they still install the older versions like 9.1002:35
myherono it has old win 7 os....i want to install it before installing ubuntu to it02:35
Laiammyhero: did you create that partion using win 7?02:35
hylianLaiam, or they are like me and install gnome or xfce4.02:35
zykotick9Laiam: sorry, thought YOU where asking the question, not asking someone that question :|  my bad02:36
myheroit was old partiton02:36
Laiamhylian: true02:36
Jordan_Umyhero: Follow the directions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download02:36
itaylor57i have grown fond of xfce402:36
myheroi choose to install ubuntu alongside windows then deleted the d: drive partition02:36
Laiammyhero: you'll have to manually create the root partion and swap partition (anyone standard swap partion size usually i just do a gig but i think its supposed to be about the same as the amount of memory you have)02:37
hylianitaylor57, gnome 3 in classic mode is now decent again. that's what i use. xfce4 is awesome though.02:37
jeremiah_hylian, it shut my lappy of, turned it back on booted for 2-3 seconds and then shut off. repeated 20 times.02:37
myheroi didnt get what u r trying 2 say02:38
LaiamI've grown fonder of kde02:38
zykotick9Laiam: if you want to use hibernate, then swap needs to be slightly larger then physical RAM02:38
hylianjeremiah_, whwn you went into tty mode? how very strange...02:38
bazhangmyhero, use real words please02:38
Laiamthat explains it... I never hibernate...02:38
myheroyea02:38
Laiammyhero what screen of the install are you on right now?02:38
myheroinstallation type02:39
Jordan_Umyhero: Why did you delete any partition?02:40
myheroinstallation type then install ubuntu alongside windows 7 then choose partition02:40
philip__guys what is a good irc client to be used especially here? chatzilla doesn't offer that much.02:40
myheroi wanted to install ubuntu to that partition thasty02:40
hylianjeremiah_, i don't know what to say. I can be honest in telling you that I have never heard of this before. I am not certain what to try next. it's definetely either hardweare or software based... i would try slitaz just to see if you have some issue with linux in general. atleast you would have a direction you could go. slitaz.org. it's a 30 mb iso. because it's small, it;s fast. and then if it works for you, then you atleast know it's not hardware, and can02:41
hylian go from there.02:41
zykotick9philip__: xchat is popular GUI client, irssi popular CLI client02:41
Jordan_Umyhero: What used to be on that partition? Ubuntu's installer will create space for its partitions automatically, doing so before hand just makes things more complicated.02:41
myherowhy deleteing partition is wrong ?02:41
philip__zykotick9: thanks. i'll go fo xchat.02:42
jeremiah_hylian, it did it again. i need help!!02:42
Laiammyhero: he's just trying to figure out why it was necessary for you02:42
ev316The sd card in my phone is full. I have it plugged in and can browse the files. I want to list to folders by actuall size so I can start at the top for clearing stuff out and making room on the card. When I sort by size in the browser it sorts folders by how many folders are in the folder. kinda pointless IMHO. windows has windirstat, which would work if i could find a linux alternative.  Thanks fo the help02:42
myherosee i had xp n win7 dual boot then today i installed win7 and in the other partition i want to install ubuntu so i deleted the old win7 d: drive partition02:42
hylianjeremiah_, download slitaz from slitaz.org. install that, and see if it crashes. that will answer if it's hardware or software02:43
LaiamJordan_U: i'm assuming that myhero deleted a partition that he made while in windows 702:43
jeremiah_hylian, it kept bringing up the do i want to shutdown page thing and then shut off and did it all over like the first time02:43
Laiamok so you currently have 1 windows partition and some empty space02:43
hylianjeremiah_, sounds like maybe a stuck power button02:43
myherocoz when i came to choose partition then i wanted to ormat it but the formnat box tick option was not ticking so i deleted it02:43
dmogleev316: Ubuntu has the graphical Disk Storage Analyzer or du on the command line.02:43
jampingwhere chat on russian piople?02:44
dmogleev316: Er, Disk Usage Analyzer02:44
ev316dmogle: cool, i will look into du. never thought of 'disk storage analyzer' syntax02:44
Laiammyhero: is this the screen you are on? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1312973605.png02:44
jeremiah_hylian, which do i download,slitaz 3.0 or slitaz 4.0 rc3?02:44
myheroi hve freshly installed win 7 partition n a 2nd deleted partition n 2more after that02:44
hyliananyone, jeremiah_ has some very strange errors, and i have to admit, this is a new one for me. please help him if you can02:44
myheroall in all 4 partitions02:44
hylianjeremiah_, 3 is stable.so i would choose that02:44
myheroall plz brb hve 2 use bathroom...srry 4 shorthand02:45
hylianjeremiah_, any issues? it's a very unique operating system. i use it simply for problem solving, cause it's small.02:49
jeremiah_hylian, just fin downloading, hang on.02:49
funnyhahai just got 11.10 and i want to know can i remove that bar on the left side of my screen02:49
jeremiah_hylian, i have it downloaded, now what?02:49
funnyhahai think its not that good02:50
hylianjeremiah_, you will either have to burn it to cd or use a program like untetbootin to put it on a usb stick.02:50
funnyhahathere is a menu bar on the left side of the screen02:50
ev316dmogle: du is pretty nice, but after reading the man page i am not seeing a way to sort based on a variable. This has to be an option.02:50
jeremiah_hylian, then wait while i burn it....02:51
myhero@liam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition02:51
dmogleev316: not sure if du sorts on its own, I just pipe it to sort.  I usualy do du --max-depth=1|sort -n02:51
myherolaiam......02:52
myhero@laiam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition02:52
myherolaiam02:52
Laiammyhero: ok you'll have to create the swap partion and root partition manually then02:53
myherohow ? n what about the partition i just deleted ?02:53
myheroany problems for that deleted partition02:53
ev316dmogle: thanks, i often forget about the |02:53
jeremiah_hylian, ok burned. now what?02:54
myherolaiam02:54
Laiammyhero: that partition is gone if you had data on it there are tools that can recover it but i'm assuming you meant to overwrite it with ubuntu anyway so02:54
myheroyes02:55
Laiammyhero: please hold i'm pulling up the interface for custom partitioning from install02:55
hylianjeremiah_, for now, we just want to boot to slitaz, and let it run. if it runs without a hiccup, then if your feeling brave, install it to the hard drive, and then if it still runs, we know it is ubuntu software based, like a driver...02:55
myherook02:55
myheroi can also go back n choose option to do something else....02:55
Laiammyhero: your on a screen similar to this yes?02:55
jeremiah_hylian, so reboot with disk?02:55
hylianyes02:55
myherowhich ?02:55
hylianjeremiah_, yes02:55
Laiammyhero: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall2-600x413.png02:55
jeremiah_hylian, do i have to install it and if i do, what happens?02:56
Laiammyhero: how much memory does your system have?02:56
myherolaiam yes similar to that02:57
Laiammyhero: select the freespace from the list and click the add button02:57
myherocurrently 3gb ram n 320gb hdd02:57
hylianjeremiah_, you don't have to, but if you do, and it doesn't have acrash fits like ubuntu has been having, then we would atleast begin from a position of kn nowledge, that being that our culprit is somewhere in ubuntu itself. that's all this test gives us, it's a lot of work,but gives you a direction to work from.02:57
jeremiah_hylian, ok. see you after i try it out/\.02:58
Laiammyhero: after clicking the add button something like this should pop uphttp://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall4-600x296.png02:58
hylianjeremiah_, also, if you do install it, you will want ot install xchat, freenode here, and join #ubuntu02:58
darbehi02:59
darbehttp://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/dw.com.com/redir/cnet_2012-04-02-184413.2500.mp4?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcnet.co%2FHh8W77%3FADPARAMS%3DBRAND%3D47%7CSITE%3D53%7CSP%3D181%7CPOS%3D100%7CNCAT%3D13482%3A31633%3A&ontId=14106&siteId=145&edId=3&asid=50122567&pid=&astId=31&ltype=dl_dlnow02:59
FloodBot1darbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:59
darbeE: debsums: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1002:59
myherohttp://pzy.be/v/2/Screenshot+at+2012-04-05+082631.png02:59
darbehow can I fix it?02:59
philip__what happened with jeremiah? just got back.02:59
jeremiah_hylian, problem, it didn't boot.02:59
jeremiah_the disk03:00
myheroyes03:00
hylianphilip__, he might be a while. i had him burn slitaz. i want to see if we can pinpoint this to hardware or software, so he is trying a different distro for a bit. then he will get back to us. then hopefully we will atleast have a direction to go with him.03:00
hylianjeremiah_, hmm. what did it do? this could be our problem right here.03:00
myherolaiam...yes now what after add screen03:01
philip__ok hylian thanks.03:01
Laiammyhero: you will want to make your main root partition slightly smaller than the available size so that you can include a swap partition for hibernation. take the amount of available space and minus about 3.5 gigs from it (3584 MB) it should be EXT4 for the type and put a slash for the mount point " / " no quotes03:01
jeremiah_hylian, it is set to boot off of disk first, but completly ignored it.03:01
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myherok03:01
Agent_bobwhat's the point of hibernate ?    i've never used it.03:02
Laiamafter you've created that partition the additional space can be used for the swap03:02
myherobut laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed03:02
Laiamagent_bob: hibernate is mostly useful for mobile platforms03:02
hylianjeremiah_, well. then either the cd didn't burn right, or we have a problem with that cd burner, or it was a bad cd... i think i see a common theme now. I could be off base here, this is just a guess. but i think your problem might be in the cd's or drive itself.03:02
Laiammyhero: do you have both root partion and swap partion now?03:03
myherobut laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed03:03
jeremiah_hylian, new cdburner new cd and it burned correctly. i can see the disk, but it won't boot.03:03
Laiammyhero: once they're created you should be able to continue with the install alongside win703:03
philip__and how does the drive affects pwoering that much?03:04
hylianphilip__, what do you think about jeremiah_ 's issue? any insight would be greatfully accepted.03:04
Zaljeremiah_, is your BIOS set up properly to boot from cd?03:04
jeremiah_Zal, yes.03:04
celthunderhylian: whats the issue sorry03:05
dmoglejeremiah_: Sometimes I have to remove a hard drive from the boot list to convince the BIOS to boot from a disk.03:05
jeremiah_i will urn again and try again03:05
Zaljeremiah_, bad burn then, is the only thing I can think of03:05
jeremiah_iwill burn again03:05
celthunderjeremiah_: are your jumpers set to master in the cd drive..also use f12 or whatever03:06
LaiamAgent_bob: hibernation is mostly useful for saving the state of the computer when no power is available to allow for easy resumption of work once power is returned. this is mostly useful on mobile platforms. but can be useful on desktops as well depending on the person.03:06
hyliancelthunder, the issue, to be honest, is we don't know what the issue is. jeremiah_ 's version of ubuntu is having all sorts of very unique issues, and the machine refuses to boot from a cd.03:06
jeremiah_celthunder, what????03:06
celthunderhylian: saw the last part...03:06
dmoglewow, haven't had to mess with drive jumpers in ages...03:06
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philip__does he have something installed at this point?03:06
celthunderjeremiah_: for the boot from cd bit.03:07
Laiamyeah... sata kinda just kills the jumper issue03:07
jeremiah_celthunder, i don't know.03:07
celthunderdmogle: they still matter if its ide..03:07
celthundersorry joined late didnt see that he was on sata03:08
tottiqhey, anyone knows if there is a picasa version for linux? i cannot seem to find one on google's servers03:08
Agent_boblaiam   ok       i guess if power failed or if one needed to relocate and resume   ....   makes sense03:08
hylianphilip__, yes, ubuntu, i think 11.10. it has been having some very strange errors/03:08
jeremiah_if physical jumpers, no. it is a laptop03:08
philip__jeremiah do you have any version installed or just trying to boot from cd?03:08
myherolaiam i created that root partition now how to create swap partition...?03:08
celthunderhylian: ok can you pastebin the convo a bit back with the other issues03:08
celthundermyhero: mkswap03:09
jeremiah_hylian, i think it worked this time. on burning.03:09
jeremiah_i will try again!03:09
Laiammyhero: did you change the size of the root so you have additional free space at the end before creating it? if so then select that free space and click the add button again change the type to swap and click go03:09
myheroyes03:09
Laiamcelthunder: he's using the gui install03:10
myherowhat mount point ?03:10
Laiammyhero: it won't need one03:10
precise-phphi, trying to build precise php5 package on lucid. this script works on 32bit - http://pastebin.com/hxvbu5NG03:10
myherok03:10
precise-phpbut fails on 64bit03:10
Agent_bobmyhero   "/"03:10
Laiammyhero: once you change the type to swap it will disable that field03:10
sckauterfinally!03:11
hacktheplanet996hai03:11
precise-phpbecause lucid's dpkg-architecture doesn't know about DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH03:11
sckauterfixed my problem with resolution lol03:11
myherowhat about other options primary or logocal n begining or end ?03:11
myheroagent is saying "/"....03:11
hylianphilip__, celthunder the machine turned on and off in rapid succesession a few times. what I knnow: ubuntu is installed. it is acting up. it keeps prompting him if he really wants to shut down now. i thought maybe it was a stuck power button. what he is doing right now is using a very slim and limmited distro called slitaz, just to see if the problems persist. he has a new cd burner. that's about all i know. also the ubuntu install is very fresh.03:11
Laiammyhero: logical and leave the other at whatever its set at also he probably thought you where asking for the root mountpoint which we just finished creating03:12
sckauternext step "vpn config" :)03:12
precise-phpwondering what is the best way to go here? can i fake the value of DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH ? or should i start with the version of debian/rules from lucid php5 package?03:12
Agent_bobmyhero    "/"  is always the "mountpoint" of the "root" partition.    i thought that was the one you were asking about.03:12
myherook...what does this "/" signiies ?03:12
celthunderhylian: does it prompt when plgged in03:12
myherothe directory03:13
celthunderhylian: could be a battery issue03:13
myheroroot directory ?03:13
jeremiah_hylian, didn't work.03:13
Agent_bobyes03:13
myherokk03:13
hyliancelthunder, i don't know. we will have to find out when he comes back,.03:13
hylianjeremiah_, well, it was worth a shot.03:13
celthunderjeremiah_: is it plugged in when prmpting for shutdown03:13
jeremiah_hyl iguess03:13
Laiammyhero: / is the top its the main level..03:13
myherowhy all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?03:13
myherook03:14
Agent_boblaiam   it's the "root"  of the filesystem03:14
jeremiah_celthunder, yes. the batteries died a long time ago and am not paying 70$03:14
myherodoes making swap partition is necessary or can i avoid it ?03:14
LaiamAgent_bob & myhero: ergo why we call it the root directory03:14
celthunderjeremiah_: turn off and disable any acpi and whatever03:14
hylianjeremiah_, do you have a usb stick?03:15
myheroi dont know...03:15
jeremiah_celthunder, ?????03:15
myherom a noob03:15
Laiammyhero: in windows the  C: drive is the /03:15
jeremiah_hylian, yes03:15
myheroyes03:15
celthunderhylian: jeremiah_ that will hopefully stop the shutdown prompts03:15
myheromeans m a noob for ubuntu03:15
Agent_boblaiam  doesn't have to be.  but in linux / has to be the root03:15
hacktheplanet996im 12 what is this03:15
jeremiah_celthunder, how is that done?!03:15
Laiammyhero: if you want to use hibernation yes its necessary also the swap partition can in a pinch be used by the computer as additional memory for applications that aren't being used but are open03:15
hylianjeremiah_, celthunder means in your bios.03:15
celthunderAgent_bob: no it doesnt03:16
jeremiah_hylian, so do what in the bios?03:16
myherobut is it necessary or can i orget about it ?03:16
celthunderhylian: i meant in kernel/gui/daemons but yeah that too03:16
Agent_bobcelthunder    chroot'd it's still the root   so to speek   but the rest is symantic.   so i'll drop it.03:16
hylianjeremiah_, options for controlling the acpi, which is the power control unit. celthunder is thinking this is a problem based off of a misread of your now defunct battery.03:17
LaiamAgent_bob: true but windows convention generally puts c: as its root although they also split each drive off though so that generally speaking each drive has its own root level03:17
Laiammyhero: its necessary.03:17
jeremiah_hylian, don't think i have an option in the bios like that....'03:17
Agent_boblaiam   i03:17
hyliancelthunder, sorry man. i think i am getting more in the way than helping. wish i could jump through xchat and help him mono e mono.03:17
hylianjeremiah_, you may not.03:18
celthunderhylian: also if it is a dell there are a lot of known issues with power and there batteries03:18
jeremiah_celthunder, it is hp03:18
celthunderhylian: lol i feel like i am not either so meh try single user mode for a bit with no daemons etc03:19
Laiamfor future reference: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/03:19
celthunderor none more than the really needed03:19
celthunderhylian: if it still halts/ powers down its either hw or his kernel at least03:19
philip__can't we chat the three of us with him for a while?03:19
celthunderphilip__: ?03:20
jeremiah_celthunder, it stopped shutting down at the moment03:20
LaiamAgent_bob: did that last message have more to it?03:20
celthunderjeremiah_: ok in a different gui distro kernel etc what didi you change03:21
Agent_boblaiam   nay       just a concurance03:21
jeremiah_celthunder, ?03:21
hyliancelthunder, i had him go into tty1 mode (control alt f1) and thats when it had a fit. at the time, i simply wanted to see why it was so locked up. never got the chance, because it forced him to shut down. just fyi.03:22
LaiamAgent_bob: I would add that windows supports mounting drives as directories within existing drives so that in a small way you could end up with C:\ being the root filesystem like linux and every other drive mounting under a folder in C:\03:22
myherolaiam n agent....m going for install....is there anything more to be done ?03:22
celthunderhylian: ok did he still have a gui running stuff on tty7 or whatever03:22
Laiammyhero: afaik that should be all your win7 partition still exists and shouldn't be touched so it should be all good03:22
celthunderjeremiah_: ? what03:23
myherook03:23
hyliancelthunder, a mouse poiter, but no control.03:23
myherothnx03:23
jeremiah_celthunder, didn't understand what you meant03:23
celthunderhylian: so...xterm ?03:23
myhero1 more ques. - why all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?03:23
celthunderxterm shouldnt have mattered03:23
myherojello u there ?03:24
hyliancelthunder, and we never got to the other distro, it won't boot the cd. he made 2 of them, still won't recognize them.03:24
celthundermyhero: because we dont want to03:24
ratcheercelthunder: +103:24
myherobut y not...it'll save time in typing reading n less congstion in window....03:24
myheroanything specific ?03:24
hylianjeremiah_, what did you use to burn the iso? did you just burn the iso file to disc, or sis you have it burn the iso into a boot option through something like brasero?03:24
celthundermyhero: not all of us type 1 word per minute and can read fine03:25
Agent_bobmyhero   because in short  THE various forms of short hand have to be explained so often that it doesn't make it any shorter03:25
jeremiah_hylian, used brasero03:25
myheroyea thats rght but simple n common 1es can b used...03:25
Fallout301celthunder & Agent_bob perfect03:25
celthunderhylian: he has a usb why is he using a cd dd the iso over and be done with it03:26
dmoglejeremiah_: did you actually get into the a boot menu and choose the disk drive, or did you just let it boot on its own?03:26
philip__myhero: do you really want to partition your system with short messages...?03:26
Agent_bobmyhero also,  it looks kind of juvinal, to say the least.03:26
hylianjeremiah_, ok, and when you put the cd into the tray, do you still see just the iso, or is it a bunch of folders and files?03:26
myherohaha....no just asked...03:26
jeremiah_hylian, bunch of folders and files03:26
Laiammyhero: I can't speak for the rest of them but for me the chat abbreviations make it more difficult for some older people I know to understand what i'm trying to communicate, also chat abbreviations leave the impression of the user being to lazy to type out the full word. additionally since this isn't twitter there is not a character limit. (much_03:26
philip__myhero: :P03:26
Fallout301Bingo Laiam03:27
hyliancelthunder, good question. for some reason he burnt the iso to  cd. i assumed he didn't have a usb till later.03:27
nathwillLaiam: not to be pedantic (but because it's funny); "too lazy"03:27
Fallout301I would listen to advice from someone who actually takes the time to type stuff out than do shortened stuff03:27
hylianjeremiah_, thanks. that means you burnt it right.03:27
Fallout301thats just me personally tho03:27
jeremiah_hylian, figured03:28
myherohaha.....n laiam i agree but it sometimes it increases the chat n typing speed to much degree...03:28
hyliancelthunder, yeah, i would use unetbootin myself, but, well, you kn ow.03:28
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hylianjeremiah_, how big is your usb stick03:28
Fallout301I don't know, personally, especially with tech support, it's just better to type it all out03:28
jeremiah_hylian, 4gb03:29
celthunderhylian: ew lol anywa uhm ok so he has an install why are we not just fixing it he said he got the power issue fixed..what else was happening03:29
Laiamnathwill: heh... english is not my favorite language even  if i'm a native speaker there are too many words that share the similar spellings or pronunciations.03:29
Agent_bobmyhero there are "windows" channels here if you really want 2 u-z sh03:29
hyliancelthunder, it wasn't fixed till just now.03:29
myheronoo i want to get into linux03:29
nathwilllaiam: agreed.03:29
hyliancelthunder, i would rather he just use the installed dsitro as well.03:29
myherohad much o windows03:29
myhero*of03:29
celthunderhylian: ok...lol so whats the issue other than power03:30
Fallout301well myhero, learn to type stuff out then, its the only way that I have found for people to take you seriously when you ask for support03:30
hylianjeremiah_, ok, so how are things running now, what are our current issues with it? you said it stopped shutting down on you...03:30
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jeremiah_hylian, thats about it. what i am worried about that itll freeze, then later on die and i loose everything.03:31
hyliancelthunder, it does take a puke on him from time to time.03:31
celthunderhylian: as in kernel panic or as in?03:31
Laiammyhero: there are numerous typing skill building programs available for both windows and linux, that can help you increase your typing speed to make the time it takes to spell everything out less of an issue.03:31
Agent_bobmemory leak ?       runaway process ?03:32
celthunderLaiam: dvorak03:32
Laiamalso, i've found the bottleneck to my messages isn't generally my typing speed but the speed at which I word things in my head.03:32
celthunderAgent_bob: lol yeah03:32
hyliancelthunder, i am assuming, but as i told you, i never got that far, on tty1 it had a massive fit, flashed "are you sure you want to shut down" about 20 times, and then died on him.03:32
jeremiah_hylian, need help for xchat at the moment. hacktheplanet996 is sending me som bad stuff. can i kick him or something??03:32
celthunderjeremiah_: /ignore03:33
jeremiah_cel03:33
Laiamcelthunder: there have been no studies since dvorak himself that have conclusively proven an advantage for using dvorak over qwerty03:33
myheroyea fall...i agree typing gud is necessary...but anyways i was pointing in diff direction n this irc seems to be in diff.03:33
jeremiah_celthunder, with him sending me porn, it is hard to.03:33
hacktheplanet996ty he's lieing . i called him a noob because he was rude to me03:33
hacktheplanet996porn? your a liar, please provide a screenshot for any moderators03:33
Agent_bobjeremiah  no.  that's the command to stop it.    /ignore blah03:33
hacktheplanet996i'm not going to get into an arugment, you're iggied03:33
hylianjeremiah_, type /ignore hacktheplanet99603:34
jeremiah_hacktheplanet996, and you sent me dinousrs giving blowjobs!03:34
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jeremiah_hylian, thankyou.03:34
celthunderLaiam: i type about the same in each but it did take less time to learn dvorak03:34
Laiammyhero: your last message is one that requires further examination and/or rewording, (I don't get what your saying) as such I point it out as an example of how abbreviations can reduce the comprehension of your communication.03:35
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Fallout301myhero I don't really get what you mean there either03:35
myheroyes u r rght03:36
celthunderi understood it03:36
Fallout301ah03:36
myheroc cell has gud understanding03:36
hylianjeremiah_, as for losing everything, we don't think there is anything wrong with your hard drive, so you shouldn't lose any documents. if this continues, you may have to eventually re-install ubuntu. this might be a heat issue. it might be a acpi battery thing, it might be a ubuntu bug that has a problem with your hardware. i wish i could be more specific than that for you.03:36
Laiammyhero: its more the second half of the message03:36
Fallout301Laiam: exactly03:36
myheroi'll not say my typing speed is very fast but its kind of ok so i hve no issues with typing speed ...03:37
Fallout301i understood the beginning, but that bit about the IRC being different, i didn't get03:37
celthundermyhero: i am indiffrent your shitty typing is not my problem03:37
jeremiah_hylian, it has died and i couldn't restore it lots of people helped and none could help restore it.03:37
celthunderFallout301: he meant indifferent03:37
myheromeans u all ppl here on this channel03:37
Fallout301ah ok thanks for clearing that up03:37
myherohey cell mind ur language03:37
jeremiah_hylian, and i just installed ubuntu03:37
hylianjeremiah_, by restore it, you mean you couldn't run the cd again? i guess i am little hazy on how  you where restoring it... with backups?03:38
celthunderjeremiah_: what died03:38
dmoglejeremiah_: have you had another linux distro on this machine?03:38
celthunderlike it didnt power on? boot ?03:38
myheroanyways thanks all ppl who supported....03:38
hylianjeremiah_, are you referring to restoring it with windows?03:38
jeremiah_hylian, no i couldn't take anything off because ubuntu stopped working.03:38
jeremiah_dmogle, yes, mint. it also died.03:39
dmoglejeremiah_: same problem or a different one?03:39
celthunderjeremiah_: WHAT died03:39
myherojeremiah... i had similar issues....ubuntu live frm usb got frozen many times03:39
celthunderhylian: bad hdd from the it dies part....03:39
jeremiah_dmogle, same lappy. same prob.03:39
myheroi had to reboot n everything got lost03:39
hyliancelthunder, he said linux mint gave himn the sam issues03:39
Laiamjust waiting for april 26th03:40
celthunderhylian: but what dies his hdd? his partitions?03:40
jeremiah_celthunder, ubuntu died for me 3 times and lost lots of info don't want it again to happen03:40
celthunderhylian: power?03:40
hyliancelthunder, i was actually thinking that too. philip__ thought it wasn't a hard drive issue.03:40
Fallout301now last time i used ubuntu was 10.10, but it was the.. I don't know I was told compositing when I talked about it elsewhere, but when I did a dual boot with it, youtube videos displayed on the black on my background, which was a bit irritating, so that was my only dealbreaker, could it just have been a bad driver?03:40
philip__myhero: weren't lost. you didn't seek with the right tool.03:40
unkrcan anyone tell me the software which i can use to transfer file from WINDOW to ubuntu ??03:40
dmoglejeremiah_: ok, try this: open a terminal (ctl + alt + t) and cd to /proc/acpi03:40
dmoglejeremiah_: paste an ls from there into paste.ubuntu.com03:40
hyliancelthunder, good question. it sounds like something gets corrupted, maybe his master boot sector?03:41
celthunderunkr: mount scp ftp samba unison...03:41
celthunderneed me to keep going03:41
celthundercp03:41
Laiammyhero: still installing?03:41
myherosee the thing was that my win7 got crashed so i took out hdd for recovery so i was left with no other choice other then live ubuntu03:41
celthunderhylian: well if he wont tell us what dies....03:41
jeremiah_dmogle, bash: /proc/acpi: Is a directory03:41
jeremiah_thats what i got.03:41
unkrcelthunder, thnx:)03:41
hyliancelthunder, i think he doesn't know./03:42
dmoglejeremiah_: type: cd /proc/acpi03:42
celthunderhylian: then describe it better03:42
hylianjeremiah_, so your hard drive died?03:42
myherolaiam srry to press install button03:42
myheroproceeding now03:42
dmoglejeremiah_: then type: ls03:42
dmoglejeremiah_: paste the output of ls03:42
jeremiah_hylian, no ubuntu did.03:42
philip__jeremiah: tools like testdisk can recover data from a hard disk which barely even spins. don't worry about that. That said, you should always back up.03:42
Laiammyhero: you should consider investing in a backup drive for your windows files that way when it crashes you can just reinstall windows and pull your files from your backup03:43
myheroi mean srry i forgot to press install button03:43
jeremiah_dmogle, ac_adapter  battery  button  event  wakeup03:43
dmoglejeremiah_: ok, type: cd button.  Then paste ls again03:43
Laiammyhero: I figured it out, the "forgot" sort of implied itself since you had forgotten it aswell03:43
Fallout301Laiam, that is a very good point... I should see about a backup drive myself03:44
myheroi have a 1TB backup drive but that day i was cleaning my backup drive n suddenly win7 got crashed so i was let with nothing03:44
myhero*left03:44
myheroyeah03:44
hylianjeremiah_, so exactly what did ubuntu do when it died?03:44
jeremiah_dmogle, Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos03:44
jeremiah_hylian, it froze time to time, then never booted again03:44
Laiamboth w7 and ubuntu have partition restore utilities w7 has a few free ones but their hard to find03:45
myheroi was saying for shorthand so much but i hve seen a major problem with it for getting words missed inbetween...03:45
dmoglejeremiah_: Hm, looks like you ended up in home.  Type: cd /proc/acpi/button03:45
dmoglejeremiah_: Then type: ls03:45
dmoglejeremiah_: Then paste output03:45
Fallout301well myhero, you end up pulling key words for understanding when you use shorthand03:45
Fallout301I mean is it really that horrifying to type out your thought without shorthand?03:46
jeremiah_dmogle, lid03:46
myherobut laiam backup drive has a problem too...that it has to be connected everytime which will be like raid or nas...03:46
dmoglejeremiah_: ok, a couple more.  Type: cd lid03:46
philip__jeremiah: did you mess your partitions then?03:46
myheron it will be wastage of power...03:46
Laiamyeah, theres a balance sometimes to the amount of words that are fully spelled compared to words that are abbreviated...03:46
myheroyea03:46
dmoglejeremiah_: then ls again, you'll probably see LID0.  If so, type (case matters): cd LID003:47
jeremiah_philip__, don't have any only one.03:47
dmoglejeremiah_: then type: cat state03:47
dmoglejeremiah_: and paste the output03:47
Fallout301myhero, another thing you can do is plug in the drive, back the shit up, then store the drive in a nice safe place03:47
jeremiah_dmogle, never got any of those C1ED03:47
dmoglejeremiah_: sorry, C1ED?03:48
jeremiah_state:      open03:48
Laiamfor my laptop i actually went through the trouble of making a windows backup through windows itself so that i don't have to reconfigure drivers everytime03:48
jeremiah_dmogle, yes03:48
myheroyea but that too seems not very comortable thing or a back unless n until the backup is small03:48
dmoglejeremiah_: ok, well, that indicates it's not a failure in the lid sensor anyways03:48
Fallout301Laiam, sounds like fun, I perosnally would rather just redo the drivers, since I don't have much to install really03:48
jeremiah_dmogle, good....03:48
myhero*for....spare me or *f this keyboard f key is bad03:48
celthunderdmogle: he said he got the power issue fixed03:48
myhero*for03:49
dmoglecelthunder: oh, guess I missed that...03:49
Laiamrestoring from a windows backup is slightly faster than reinstalling all together for me03:49
hyliandmogle, i am thinking his need to force restart continously has damaged the master boot record.03:49
Fallout301Laiam, it probably is, but what is the size of it when it's done backing up?03:49
myheroyea03:49
dmoglehylian: would that explain the same problem on multiple distros?03:49
celthunderjeremiah_: when did it fleeze did you max the swap/ram also vmstat watch your io speed watching top as well might help03:49
jeremiah_celthunder, please no jiberish.03:50
hyliandmogle, it would explain why they eventually become inaccessable. as to what causes the freeze, i haven't a clue.03:50
Laiamabout the same size as the amount of disk space taken up after getting everything configured for the base system itself before installing additional applications03:50
myheroif the backup is small then usb will b gud but i the size is larger then it has to be hdd...03:50
Laiamso like 6 gb03:50
Fallout301ah03:50
celthunderveras for the disk check s m a r t and e2fsck03:51
jeremiah_hylian, thats what i am ofraid of. freezing03:51
philip__jeremiah: altering partitions can lead to short freezes. also you can try to boot in to recovery mode, even now.03:51
Fallout301hmm, I don't know.. personally I'd just rather backup the documents, Win7 installs pretty quick for me03:51
myheroif u r working everyday then u need a connected drive....raid or nas03:51
Fallout301myhero: theres also Ubuntu One or Dropbox03:51
jeremiah_philip__, i never messed with partitions03:52
myheroyes but its not a gud option for bandidth limit a/c's n slow speeds03:52
hylianjeremiah_, for now, if your computer does happen to no longer boot from the hard drive, you can still gain access to things like music, pictures, documents and the like through a live cd like ubuntu. i do it all the time for customers. this isn't much help, but it is available. as long as your hard drive holds out.03:52
Laiamfallout301: its basically a heavily compressed version of the information on the disk which means any small files on the disk that take up a full cluster even though they only need a few bytes or kilobytes get compressed aswell thereby taking up less space. also some laptops are really annoying to try and reinstall drivers for03:52
myheroi hve always been thinking or a rght backup....03:53
Fallout301ah yes, so true so very true03:53
jeremiah_hylian, tried that. it doesn't even sense there is something installed on the hdd.03:53
Fallout301ugh I had a real fun time finding drivers for my touch pad on my laptop about a month ago03:53
hylianjeremiah_, that is very strange...03:53
Laiamso i figure since i have all the drivers and everything already setup (minus my applications and virus protection since backing that up with it is pointless) its easy to make a one time backuo03:53
myheroi hve tried usb external hdd....raid n even dropbox but every option has some or the other disadvantages which after some time make me to change backup option03:54
Fallout301true Laiam03:54
Fallout301I think I'm gonna do that lol03:54
hylianjeremiah_, so when you booted to ubuntu from the cd, and then looked for an extra drive in nautilus, it showed no other drives?03:55
Fallout301well myhero, personally dropbox works like a dream for me03:55
myherolaiam but when u work then ur old ackups becomes obsolete03:55
gdoteofhalf the time I boot up my computer the settings in 'mouse settings' aren't respected03:55
myheroits gud for small files n greater bandwith connections03:55
Fallout301myhero: he is only backing up all his drivers and basically the fresh system03:55
Laiamnot really since its just the base install of windows without anything but the updates03:55
philip__let me make myself clear. for me back up is everything that can have you up and running in a couple of hours after a major system damage. That kind of back is only cloning to me.03:55
myheroyea03:55
gdoteofi think it might be literally half the time.  like one boot it works, next boot it doesn't work, and on and on03:56
jeremiah_hylian, yep.03:56
Laiamand its easy enough to update the backup from windows if needed03:56
myheroyea03:56
Fallout301so true03:56
hylianjeremiah_, i may have to eat my words. there might be damage to that hard drive. that's strange.03:56
myheroif you are geting backup reinstalled in couple of hours then it doesnt has any advantage in terms of time coz u can install fresh in that much time03:57
Laiamalso i'm like 87% sure that backups store validation information so it doesn't need to be revalidated each time i restore but its been a while since i restored from backup so i forget03:57
myherobackup is or files backup only03:57
jeremiah_hylian, it has happened to three new hdds!!03:57
myhero*for...spare me for *F03:57
Fallout301I'm kinda nervous about it, but i think I'm gonna try another dive into Linux with a dual boot >_< I'm mostly just scared because I don't wanna screw up windows03:57
philip__hylian: that happens also when a system (install) is damaged.03:57
Laiamalso since i'm mostly mobile my files are always on my portable disk which gets backed up to my main computer each night when i get home03:57
Fallout301nice03:58
myheroyea gud03:58
myheroi did hdd backup the hdd crashed...03:58
Fallout301my longest linux period had to be... oh I'd say about... 5 months, when my laptop decided to give me the finger and lock the old hard drive03:58
hylianjeremiah_, it could be either the hard drive eide or sata cords, ot could be the power unit frying out the hard drive, it could be the ports on the motherboard causeing an issue. and i could be wrong. but this is sounding more and more like a hard drive issue. it doesn't neccessarily mean the hard drive itself is bad.03:59
Laiamfallout301 right now i'm not even bothering with dual boot since i have a surplus of drives it seems I just cary both windows and ubuntu with me at all times on separate drives and swap them out as needed03:59
myheroi did dropbox backup then my connection bills when high n next i orgot my p/w03:59
myheronext i did did usb it fell into water n other got stolen03:59
jeremiah_hylian, .03:59
myheroso there is nothing sure shot03:59
philip__does he have system specs on pastebin?03:59
celthunderjeremiah_: did it recognize the drive in /dev or in dmesg03:59
hylianjeremiah_, or i could be totally off base.04:00
myherobackups r meant for soemthing bad n i bad happens then nothing helps at the moment04:00
celthunderjeremiah_: did you mount the drive anywhere if you dont mount it of course it wont show up04:00
jeremiah_celthunder, ?04:00
jeremiah_hylian, i hope you are.04:00
tomgeorgewhere can I find help on Inkscape extensions/04:01
tomgeorge?04:01
celthunderjeremiah_: just ideas..and more info will help us help you04:01
jeremiah_celthunder, ? i don't undersatnd. did i miss the first part?04:01
hylianjeremiah_, me too. that's not a cheap repair, or even neccessarily repairable, given the age of the machine....04:01
jeremiah_celthunder, info of what?04:01
Laiammyhero: main backup is generally a big huge drive that stays at home, i plug it in once a month or every other month back up everything then unplug it and it sits on a shelf, secondary backup for small stuff is basically my portable drive which has my day to day files, between that my laptop and my main computer i have at least 3 copies floating around 4 if it gets to my main backup04:01
hylianjeremiah_, he is wondering what you tryed to use to mount the hard drive to get your data back... i.e. your music04:01
jeremiah_hylian, no.04:02
myherobut laiam u r forgetting something in these 3 copies....u r consuming too much space for too lil data04:02
hylianjeremiah_, so you didn't try to mount it? i might be really tired and not getting this...04:02
celthunderhylian: dmesg udisks mount and /dev help a lot....04:02
celthunderhylian: and yeah where did he mount it04:02
Random832is there a tool to tune subpixel font energy distributions?04:03
Laiammyhero: my fourth level backup is my web-server which serves for holding things temporarily between home and college in the event i forget something. i'm currently using about 20% storage capacity if that04:03
myherolike 50%-60% space utility obtained in raid04:03
jeremiah_hylian, same here. no i didn't try to mount it.04:03
tomgeorgeWhere can I find help for Inkscape extensions?04:03
celthunderhylian: berthen why would you expect your data to show op04:04
RaskHello, channel.  Is there a place that one can find terminfo entries for obscure/old terminals such as the wyse-35 or the televideo 925? :)04:04
hylianmyhero, backup on ubuntu, windows, or macos is never small in hd size. it backs up the whole, un compressed operating system, and your apps, and your documents...04:04
LaiamI haven't raid arrayed yet since i don't have the hardware for it but eventually i'm just going to setup my main computer to raid array in a way that if a drive fails i can just pull it out and replace it and have the system mirror data so that it just rewrites the information onto the new disk04:05
myheroyea i too have backups in 2 laptops n i desktop n one 1TB hdd...but then files dont updated in all the places in 1 go...some the files r newer n other places they r older04:05
celthunderhylian: *up if you didnt mount it dont expect it to be there04:05
hylianjeremiah_, i see. yeah, if you don't mount those hard drives while you are using the live cd, you will not have access to your data. it probably was still there. you can mount hard drives usually from nautilus or gparted, both found on a ubuntu love cd.04:05
Laiamrsync!04:05
hylianjeremiah_, live cd, not love. i am tired :)04:06
funnyhahai need help can i download the build-essential linux-headers-generic and save them04:06
Laiamlol live cd loves you04:06
jeremiah_hylian, i will do that next time..04:06
myheroyea...thats gud coniguration for fails n backup04:06
myherospare me for F04:07
jeremiah_hylian, me to.04:07
myheromine too has stuck many times04:07
funnyhahawhere can i download   "build-essential linux-headers-generic" so i can save them04:08
celthunderfunnyhaha: from any repo04:08
hylianjeremiah_, well, atleast you can relax a little about that. as to what causes your freezes, i don't know. there is a cli program called htop i was going to have you run. when we tried to get to tty1 (control alt f1) to run htop, it had a fit. if you ever manage to get it to freeze again, using htop may get you some vaulable info as to what is causing the freeze. if it is the hd problem thing, this won't work though04:08
funnyhahai dont understand04:08
philip__so you're in a desktopo enviroment. please open a terminal type sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the output.04:09
celthunderhylian: vmstat could show hdd issues04:09
hyliancelthunder, yeah, that's the ticket04:09
celthunderhylian: also check smart like i said earlier04:09
jeremiah_hylian, how do i get htop?04:09
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celthunderhylian: use top ..has everything htop has04:10
Laiamjermiah_ sudo apt-get install htop04:10
Laiamjermiah_ sudo apt-get install top04:10
hylianjeremiah_, you can download it using the ubuntu software center, or by sing synpatic, or by using the command sudo apt-get install htop in a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal04:10
hylian celthunder whats the difference between htop and top?04:11
prappl93Is there any solution to Adobe audio being choppy? I'm trying to use Omegle and the chat is rather choppy. I tend to only go there while on my Windows partition, and I was hoping I wouldn't have to change over to that partition for that. Any suggestions/solutions?04:11
hyliancelthunder, i like the search/find option ion htop.04:11
jeremiah_what kind of java is needed for minecraft?04:12
myheroi thing i hve noticed that if i get the live usb out n reinsert it in the same port or any diff then ubuntu stops working04:12
myheroit freezes04:12
mr-squidleyjeremiah_, i think04:13
ArchNemesisjeremiah: should run on jre-1.6 but, i never tried int under *nix04:13
mr-squidleysun whoops04:13
funnyhahaits there a command i can use to download build-essential linux-headers-generic and not install save it somewhere04:13
prappl93I think the problem that jeremiah_ is having is that it is running, just having a weird white static effect on the textures.04:13
hylianjeremiah_, you need the java from sun. ubuntu comes with java, but while it works well for everyday uses, specialty software like minecraft doesn't work at all on it.04:13
ArchNemesisits not 'sun' anymore but yeah =P04:14
hylianjeremiah_, sorry i couldn't help you more. my brain is now a gelatinous ooze. i need sack time. i hope your problems are few and far between.04:14
jeremiah_hylian, thanks for the help!04:15
jeremiah_so how do i get java for minecraft?04:15
philip__funnyhaha, you need just the headers?04:15
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* hylian waves goodbye to his #ubuntu friends04:15
funnyhahai see04:16
bretzelHello, -- Ubuntu 12.04 (event Beta2) is Just WOW!04:16
bretzelevent ** even ;-)04:16
jeremiah_nothing came out.04:17
jeremiah_srry04:17
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jeremiah_going to bed.04:17
funnyhahaif i go to terminl and (sudo get-app build-essential linux-headers-generic -w and a name) will that work04:17
philip__funnyhaha: http://www.kernel.org/04:17
funnyhahathanks04:18
bretzelBut icons bar, apps minimized or not does not raise the vdesktop nor awake ( unhide) window04:18
imyousufHi04:18
imyousufI want to achieve the following:04:18
imyousufForward SSH request to a particular port on the Ubuntu server acting as router to another server in the private network for a particular user only. That is, e.g., Router Server port 6122 will forward to Internal Server port 22; Internal Server allows ssh for User 1 and User 2; User 1 will be able to SSH through the router but User 2 will not.04:18
imyousufMy question is, is it possible using a Ubuntu box as a router? If so can someone please guide me to the how-to?04:18
FloodBot1imyousuf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:18
imyousufHi04:18
celthunderimyousuf: yes its called iptables and ip route04:18
philip__funnyhaha: you're welcome.04:18
imyousufcelthunder: I am familiar with with both UFW and iptables04:19
imyousufJust dont know how to achieve my scenario04:19
Laiamjava... YUCK!!!04:19
funnyhahao i dont know what im looking for04:19
myherolaiam...the installer is downloading updates i think....currently language packs.....is there any way to halt or pause this update downloading....coz i hve limited bandwidth n free night....04:20
Laiamclick the arrow next to the thing04:20
Laiamthen click the skip button04:20
prappl93exit04:20
Laiammyhero: the text that says downloading whatever04:21
Laiammyhero if you click on that or the > arrow next to it it should open up a little box with console information from there a skip button should be visible above it on the right side04:21
myheroyes04:22
imyousufcelthunder: How can I check for the user requesting the ssh access, i.e. username part of ssh uri?04:22
Laiamyeah why does the installer download and install like 57 language packs then remove them all (except the chosen one) when finished?04:22
jonathanellisI have chromium 18.0.1025.142~r129054-0ubuntu0.11.10.1 installed on ubuntu 11.10. It keeps randomly crashing after a few seconds or minutes, often when I try to open a webpage. I have completely removed it, deleted .config/chromium and reinstalled and I still have the problem. Can anyone help please?04:22
myherook so i m skipping it....i hope it doesn't skips all installation process04:23
Laiammyhero: it should only skip the step that was visible at the time you pressed the button04:23
Fallout301Laiam, that is a bit silly aint it? wasting the time to download them just to delete04:23
myherook04:23
myheroskipped it04:24
philip__jonathanellis: as i told you earlier please try to revert back to one of those to see if it works.04:24
Fallout301gah, the fact I can't find my other drive is annoying me04:24
Laiamfallout301: exactly04:24
Laiammyhero: are you going to try to live with unity or are you going to try another package?04:25
myherothe language packs gets installed n then deleteled automatically or we have to do it manually ?04:25
Fallout301Laiam, if you ask me it should ask you immediately "What language would you like to use?" and download JUST that pack04:25
myherounity is which one ?04:25
anonymous_hay i can not boot in to ubuntu04:25
Onixsis there a github for a NAS script ?04:25
myheroi m installing oneiric...04:25
Laiamfallout301: lol it asks you your language at the beginning of the installer04:25
jonathanellisphilip__: I was having the problem on version 17 as well. About an hour ago, update manager updated it to the current version and I still have the problem. Which version do you think I should revert to?04:25
Fallout301but it downloads all the packs04:25
Laiammyhero: the main default interface04:25
anonymous_fd;fsdG"Dgrg04:25
anonymous_r04:25
anonymous_fr04:25
anonymous_g04:25
anonymous_rgr04:25
FloodBot1anonymous_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:25
anonymous_g04:25
Fallout301just to delete them04:25
myherothen unity...04:26
myheroif u can suggest any other better one then will go or it04:26
studentzHow I can launch an app from cli with the GTK or QT windows on TOP? Thanks04:26
gulzar how to find out the files being used by a process? eg: I have 3 conky runnng but in the configuration I have added onky 1 setup... so there is some other file being run .. how to find its location with the running processes?04:26
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Laiammyhero: if you want something that might have a closer feel to windows you can try KDE or something else...04:26
myheroinstallation finished04:26
myherook04:26
funnyhahais this what im looking for    3.4-rc104:26
Laiamcool!04:26
Laiam!kde > myhero04:27
ubottumyhero, please see my private message04:27
myherobut suggest keeping in mind that m a newbie to linux n ubuntu...04:27
studentzgulzar use top or atop from cli04:27
myherok04:27
Fallout301i personally think Gnome 2, at least as implimented in LM 10, was pretty dang close to windows04:27
celthundermyhero: xmonad is my fav gui04:27
celthunderFallout301: gnome 2 is eol04:27
tomgeorgewhy am I unable to post anything to the inkscape channel?04:27
gulzarstudentz: I want the files being used... but I got it .. {ps aux | grep $pid}04:28
dmoglegulzar: lsof lists open files by process id04:28
celthunderare you registered04:28
gulzardmogle: Ok.. but I got it with ps .. thank you04:28
celthundertomgeorge: cegister with nickserv04:28
Fallout301celthunder, that might be true, but it is still my favorite Gnome, although I haven't played with Gnome 3 terribly much04:28
myherok04:28
Laiamlinux mint does a good job of keeping everything as simple as you want it to be04:28
foolhaedy1#wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame Laiam thunder1212 Shirakawasuna Fallout301 myhero celthunder #wolfgame04:29
myherook i'll try xmonad n kde...04:29
Laiamfallout301 gnome3 has a fallback mode which basically turns it into gnome204:29
celthunderFallout301: dont bother lol go to xmonad or awesome or openbox ... mate is the new gnome 2 fork if you wanted that though04:29
foolhaedy1 #wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame04:29
bazhangfoolhaedy1, stop that04:29
studentzgulzar sorry I misunderstood your q? Do you want to know the pid of the subprocess?04:30
myherobut for kde will i hve to install kubuntu...or it will work in ubuntu04:30
celthunderLaiam: that will sooner or later be taken out04:30
Fallout301wasnt uh.. Cinnamin basically a continuation of Gnome 2?04:30
celthundermyhero: you can install all the guis you want...04:30
Laiamcelthunder: sadpanda04:30
myherook04:30
Fallout301i know i didn't spell it right04:30
celthunderFallout301: idk mate is the one linus was supporting i think...04:30
Laiamalso linux mint is turning gnome3 into something more recognizable04:30
thunder1212am unable to configure my printer in ubuntu 10.04 the printer is detected and installed but does not print although it accepts the print command the icon appears on the panel and dissapears quickly04:30
tomgeorgecelthunder, I have registered with nickserv...04:30
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celthundercould be wrong obviously i dont use it04:30
beginnerhi test msg04:31
Laiamyuck printers04:31
thunder1212the printer is hp inkadvantage k109g04:31
celthunderpeople still print?04:31
Fallout301yes celthunder, its amazing, we have printers still!04:32
Fallout301:O04:32
codencrazyI recently hooked up a new monitor to my ubuntu 12.04 box, it works fine on the desktop at 1680x1050, but when I hit ALT CTRL F1 for a console window, it goes straight to an Out Of Range, any ideas?04:32
* celthunder meanders off to find those still inventing the wheel04:32
myherothnx all for help....bye04:32
LaiamKDE stole my heart when it properly detected my battery and figured out the actual powerlevel without acting like it was the end of the world when my cable came unplugged unlike unity/gnome where the plug coming undone means instant shutdown04:32
Fallout301lol04:32
celthundercodencrazy: set your terminal reosolution valid04:33
Fallout301well i know Gnome 2 is EOL, but it didnt blow a gasket on me lol04:33
myherohaha...laiam....04:33
myheroaccha whats the diff in KDE n ubuntu04:33
celthunder??04:33
studentzthunder1212  from terminal lpr yourDocument  and  post the error04:34
Laiamkde is just a different way of displaying things04:34
celthunderkde is a full de04:34
myherothen whats the point o detecting the battery04:34
myheroof04:34
celthundermyhero: probably uses acpi differently...04:35
celthunderwho knows ...04:35
myherothe batter gets detected by system n not ui04:35
myheromayb..04:35
Laiamon a laptop battery life is important if you want to be able to cross the room without your computer dying while its unplugged04:35
gtech_I fucked up my .profile script in my home folder and now when I login ubuntu hangs before I can even get a terminal, is there anyway to change this?04:35
gtech_<gtech_> I can't use the alternate tty screens because my video drivers are fucked and the screen freezes when I try04:35
gtech_<gtech_> I can't mount the directory from a liveCD because the mounting passphrase in locked inside and I forgot it04:35
gtech_<gtech_> password ssh login is disabled, and I don't have the secret key04:35
FloodBot1gtech_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:35
myherobattery04:35
gtech_I'm going to assume that sent, sorry for the paste spam04:36
Laiamgtech: login using tty1 basically terminal... you can do this via pressing alt+ctrl+F104:36
Laiambefore logging in from the main screen04:36
myherobye all frnds...specially laiam...04:36
gtech_yeah, like I said, I just get fracturing because I need to fix my video drivers04:36
celthunderLaiam: he still needs the passphrase....04:36
Laiamlol04:36
Laiamgtech_: wow you really messed it up bigtime didn't you...04:37
celthundergtech_: dont set a pass and forget it next time go rm yoursself and as for losing your key as well no good if its not mounted...04:37
celthundermae up your mind what you did you contardicted yourself a bit there04:37
gtech_I have my login passphrase, but not the one which the drive is encrypted with, which I guess in is PT and encrypted by my login04:37
Laiamgtech_: can you use the guest login?04:38
celthundergtech then you cant boot04:38
Laiamgtech_: have you enabled the root account?04:38
gtech_Laiam, maybe on the guest login I'll try04:38
gtech_no the root account is still disabled04:38
celthunderLaiam: i think he lied somewhere though im tired...04:38
Laiam...04:38
celthunderhis drive is incrypted but he can boot....04:38
Fallout301hmm04:39
celthundernot much of an encrypton and if he knos that he can use a livecd04:39
Laiamcelthunder most likely its only the /home directory that is encrypted04:39
gtech_no my home directory is encrytped04:39
gtech_I should have been more specific, though I never said drive04:39
Laiamgtech_: anyway try the guest account then terminal su yourself04:39
Laiamand do everything from command line04:39
Laiamonce you get it fixed you should probably put the passphrase for your encrypted partition somewhere where you can get at it at home...04:41
Laiamand i mean physical home not computer home04:41
gtech_yeah  I three computers that I had it on, three points of failure04:41
gtech_just recently I had one box go down, and this latest fuckup was my last line to my remote backup04:41
gtech_>.<04:42
Laiamcrash and burn!04:42
Fallout301ouch04:42
Laiamyeah... i don't encrypt my home systems because i don't have anything on them worth taking my mobile system is encrypted because of the principle of it...04:43
Laiamhard drive firmware password ftw!04:43
gtech_it's Guest and no pw right?04:43
Laiamshould be... which version of ubuntu you floatin on?04:44
gtech_latest04:44
Laiamyeah just click through the options for Guest and there is no password because its guest04:44
gtech_ugh yeah that's not working, how is ubuntu decrypting my drive without my entering in my passphrase everytime?04:45
gtech_if I have my login isn't there some way to retrieve it?04:46
kotahey all04:46
Laiamcan you use terminal to switch user in a gnome-terminal to yourself04:46
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gtech_Laiam, I can't login as Guest at all04:47
Laiamyuck04:48
gtech_I can't login at all04:48
Laiamits not on the login screen?04:48
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gtech_there's an other option which allows you to throw in other logins04:48
gtech_I've used that04:48
Laiamshouldn't have needed to04:49
Laiamyour on 11.10 right so under login box for your account there should be one that says guest04:49
gtech_maybe there's another user I can login as, what's the name of the users file?04:49
gtech_it isn't there04:49
luismjkhola?04:51
ShdwdrgnI have an issue with the keyboard lock indicator LEDs.  I have 5 machines running natty.  Some the num-lock led switches, others it does not.  The caps-lock indicator does not switch on any of the machines, from GUI or from CLI.04:51
Fallout301interesting issue, thats all i can say to that04:51
Laiamgtech_ really did you customize your login screen or disable the guest accoutn? cause it should have been there as "Guest session" right alongside the other04:52
paulus68gtech_: might this be an solution to your problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory04:52
luismjkespañol?04:52
Shdwdrgnthese are all regular desktop machines with standard keyboards.  I can't seem to find anything on google either.04:52
paulus68!es |luismjk04:53
ubottuluismjk: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.04:53
luismjkje je gracias :D04:53
Laiamgtech_: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z5/illo/nw/story_graphics/12jan/ubuntu/ubuntu-login.jpg04:54
Laiamor is the login screen non-standard because of the video driver issue?04:54
gtech_Laiam, found it, wow so I'm in the home stretch thanks04:54
gtech_that might be the case04:54
gtech_I didn't customize it04:54
Laiamgtech_: ok cool! now just need to see if you can use a gui terminal to login as yourself and edit the drive04:55
Laiambasically su username04:56
sacarlsonShdwdrgn: standard keyboards?  are they usb or the other type?  at what stage of boot or operation do you have this problem?04:56
Laiamshdwdrgn: have the keyboards been damaged in anyway possible?04:57
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Shdwdrgnsacarlson, they are ps/2 keyboards.  One machine is at init5, the others are servers at init3.  I could reboot one and see where it seems to start happening...04:57
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ShdwdrgnLaiam, the keyboards are fine.  The indicators were working under lucid, but stopped sometime around the upgrade through maverick/natty04:58
Laiamahh ok ... i haven't had a chance to mess with that much since i'm mostly on my laptop04:58
iCoffeesomebody here could help me ?04:58
LaiamiCoffee: you desired assistance?04:58
iCoffeeone question only04:59
iCoffeemy grub customizer don't open ( distr. ubuntu 11.10)05:00
sacarlson!ask | iCoffee05:00
ubottuiCoffee: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:00
Xenon|2Ok, really stupid question, but where can i go to applications?05:00
sacarlsoniCoffee: I assume you got it from ppa?05:00
Laiamsacarlson: lol nice i'll have to remember that command05:00
LaiamXenon|2 i'm assuming you are in unity05:00
Xenon|2Laiam: What do you mean?05:01
iCoffeesacarlson:05:01
iCoffeei get from terminal05:01
Xenon|2sorry i'm new to this :(05:01
macoshi05:01
sacarlsoniCoffee: show us the line you used in terminal to run it,  or did you even install it yet?05:01
LaiamXenon|2: unity is the default interface for ubuntu in 11.10 which i'm also going to assume your using05:01
iCoffeeok05:01
iCoffeeone momeny05:02
iCoffeemoment05:02
Laiam!unity > Xenon|205:02
ubottuXenon|2, please see my private message05:02
iCoffeesudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer05:02
iCoffeesudo apt-get update05:02
iCoffeesudo apt-get install grub-customizer05:02
sacarlsoniCoffee: ok that must mean you installed it,  so what did you do to try to run it?05:03
LaiamXenon|2: access to installed applications is available via the launcher05:03
ShdwdrgnOK capslock indicator works fine from grub, and when the kernal first loads.  It stops working sometime during the process of "Begin running sciripts init/Bottom"05:04
iCoffeei search in start panel05:04
iCoffeeand open05:04
Shdwdrgnnote that the capslock still functions, its just the keyboard indicator that doesn't change to show the status05:04
sacarlsoniCoffee: then lets try in the terminal to see why it didn't open05:04
iCoffeebut but when it finishes loading it closes05:04
iCoffeeok05:05
LaiamShdwdrgn: keyboard drivers?05:06
sacarlsoniCoffee: my guess is that your not a sudoer or your trying to run it without sudo rights05:06
ShdwdrgnLaiam, none that I installed.  Whatever ubuntu installs for a standard US keyboard.05:06
sacarlsoniCoffee: so to run it in a terminal you could try sudo gksudo grub-customizer ;05:07
iCoffeeok05:07
thunder1212hp ink advantage k109g not able to print from ubuntu 10.0405:08
Laiamsacarlson: gksu is the command for sudo for gui05:08
iCoffeegrub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail05:08
Laiamso... gksu grub-customizer05:08
ponrajuganeshis there any way to find the only the ip address of the system05:08
iCoffeesacarlson:05:08
ponrajuganeshA quick question what could be the possible grep option to get the ip address alone using ifconfig05:08
ponrajuganeshcould anyone help I need the IP adress ignoring all the other details05:10
thunder1212unable to print from printer05:10
sacarlsoniCoffee: what are we looking at?05:10
thunder1212ubuntu 10.04 lts05:11
rkhshmhow do i setup a isns server on ubuntu 11.10?05:11
rkhshmneeded some urgent info please05:11
iCoffeesacarlson:  no open the grub customizer05:11
centHOGG!isns05:11
iCoffeein the final show this message05:11
iCoffeegrub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail05:11
Shdwdrgnponrajuganesh, ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\  -f105:11
thunder1212if u are using an older version of ubuntu and u purchase a new printer then does it mean that u will now have to change or upgrade ur distro?05:12
centHOGGhow old?05:12
paulus68ponrajuganesh: fconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:'05:12
paulus68ponrajuganesh: ifconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:' sorry05:13
ponrajuganeshthis works perfectly in ubuntu Shdwdrgn and paulus68 but unix doesnot support the same05:13
ponrajuganeshany idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn05:13
sacarlsoniCoffee: what was used in your command when this is seen ?05:13
iCoffeethe command gksudo grub-customizer05:14
iCoffeeon terminal05:14
Arovijhi I want to add virtual interface to my machine. Should I be making changes to /etc/network/interfaces ?05:14
Laiamhttp://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/linux-get-ip-address/05:14
Shdwdrgnponrajuganesh, you're in a linux channel asking for unix help?  You haven't even mentioned what type of unix you're running.05:15
ponrajuganeshany idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn05:15
ponrajuganeshsolaris 5.1005:15
jameswhi.. i just did a live boot of ubuntu studio 12.04, and it did not work with my logitech mx5500 wireless keyboard/mouse combo.. do you know of a fix, or do you think it will work if i do the install anyway? it works fine currently on ubuntu standard 11.0405:15
iCoffeesacarlson:  pvt05:15
paulus68ponrajuganesh: just checking hold on05:15
sacarlsoniCoffee: I'm not sure what could cause that,  it might be a bug in the parser of grub-customizer,05:15
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sacarlsoniCoffee: I've used grub-customizer on two builds so far with no problems on 10.04 and 11.1005:17
kingsizebaHello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.05:17
gtech_Laiam, thanks for all your help, unfortunately it looks like my passphrase isn't stored in the same way that file is describing so I'm going to see if I can revive an old box05:17
gtech_and get back into this one05:17
gtech_cheers, ttyl05:17
ponrajuganeshsure paulus6805:17
ponrajuganeshthanks paulus6805:17
thunder1212If someone is using and older version of ubuntu say 10.04 LTS and purchases a new printer does it mean that i have to upgrade or change the distro??05:17
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iCoffeesacarlson:  have other program to do that ?05:18
paulus68ponrajuganesh: ifconfig -a eth0 | awk '/inet/ {print $2}' would this do the trick for you05:18
ponrajuganeshwell the thing is it is i got one with unix but the same not working in linux paulus6805:18
centHOGGi don't think so... v10 not too old05:18
iCoffeeto do a better visual on grub ?05:18
Laiamgtech: hope you get it working thanks for the update on your progress if you do solve it feel free to share how05:18
SamSDHello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.,  would like to optimize, please help ty05:18
sacarlsoniCoffee: not a gui that I know of,  you will have to edit the grub files with a standard editor05:18
Arovijjoin ##ubuntu05:18
ponrajuganeshshoudl I have semi colon at the end or something paulus6805:19
paulus68ponrajuganesh: yes05:19
thunder1212i have a new hp ink advantage k109g printer and i am not able to print from ubuntu 10.04 but i can easily print using 11.0405:19
vindolinis there a way to decrypt an encrypted home dir in place? I'm badly affected by the dreaded "Valid eCryptfs headers not found..." bug http://bit.ly/o10UG1 and I'm tired of waiting for a fix.. dmesg is so spammed with that error, its useless :(05:20
thunder1212so what to do??05:20
ponrajuganeshor else is there an option to find the uunder lying system is unix or linux>05:20
Guest88186l05:20
paulus68ponrajuganesh: don't know just googling in order to find an answer that might be helpfull for you05:20
ponrajuganesh'uname -s' helps paulus6805:23
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paulus68ponrajuganesh: uname -s under ubuntu returns linux05:27
ponrajuganeshya paulus68 the same under unix returns someother05:27
ponrajuganeshso one could use the first command for the linux and the second grep for unix05:28
lebroDoes ubuntu come with a cronjob clearing ~/.bash_history by default? I tried modifying my .bashrc to allow a profane history size, but for some reason my history keeps getting cleared.05:28
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Jordan_Uponrajuganesh: For general UNIX programming and scripting try ##unix.05:29
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Ali1_apachi all05:29
Ali1_apacI am installing cacti which uses php05:29
ZenGuy311how can I install beautifulsoup4 on lucid?05:30
Ali1_apaci have installed it to /usr/share - but when I point my browser at localhost/cacti - its Not Found. How do I configure my system to look in the right place?05:30
laihanhi05:30
Laiamgood night05:34
Fallout301night05:34
dmogleZenGuy311: doesn't look like 4 is in any repos prior to precise, you'll have to get it yourself05:35
ZenGuy311dmogle:  k05:35
dmogleZenGuy311: if you have setup tools you should be able to easy_install beautifulsoup405:36
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myherolaiam u there ?05:36
ubuntu64biti don't think i let my update finish installing after running update manager i manually shut down the computer and upon reboot my wifi wouldn't work so i clicked on partial update let the update try to finish without a connection rebooted then the wifi came back on is this possible?05:36
ZenGuy311dmogle:  installing easytools now05:37
ZenGuy311dmogle:  thanks it works05:40
dmogleZenGuy311: good deal, happy to help!05:41
ZenGuy311Ali1_apac:   i hope this helps http://openmaniak.com/cacti_tutorial.php05:43
myherohi all05:43
c02zf05:44
myherodual boot system with win7 and ubuntu....now boot screen gives ubuntu boot loader screen with some seconds to default ubuntu loading....how to change it to win7 boot loader screen and revert it back to deault win7 loading ?05:45
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Jordan_Umyhero: Do you want to remove Ubuntu entirely?05:46
mmercerlo all05:47
mmerceranyone happen to know which image would be necessary to install on a tm5800 cpu ?05:47
myherono...just change the boot loader screen to win7 and make win7 default05:47
myheroi want to keep ubuntu alongside05:47
ZenGuy311myhero:  try easybcd for windows05:47
Jordan_Umyhero: I understand wanting Windows to be the default, but defaulting to the Windows boot screen will make it much harder to dual boot with Ubuntu, without any gain that I can see. Why do you want to do this?05:48
idan_how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu05:48
myherook05:48
myherocoz if i will not pay attention for that ew seconds then ubuntu will load by default n then i will have to shut it down n again boot windows05:49
myhero*few05:49
laihanhello everyone05:49
idan_how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu05:50
EmoBoiix3hi everyone05:50
venkatmangudiidan_, check power preferences...05:50
idan_i was checked theres only suspend there05:50
idan_i don't look for suspend05:50
Jordan_Umyhero: OK, so you just want the grub menu to default to booting Windows. That's easy, and does not require easybcd.05:50
idan_im look for just black screen05:50
Jordan_Umyhero: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?05:50
myherook if the boot screen cant be reverted back to win7 then no problem but if atleast win7 can be made default then it would b gr805:51
dmogleidan_: You want the screen settings.  You can set a screen turnoff time there05:51
venkatmangudiidan_, put display to sleep is what u need05:51
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idan_i ddid it 1 minute05:51
Jordan_Umyhero: Like I said, defaulting to Windows is easy.05:51
idan_and all the night the screen wasn't blank05:51
myherok05:51
Guest48587Trouble with Chromium getting a segmentation fault05:51
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myherohow ?05:52
Fallout301Jordan_U, arent u basically just editing the grub file and putting windows first?05:52
Fallout301I can't remember exactly what its called05:52
EmoBoiix3It seems that my Google Chrome hates me when I'm using root05:52
Jordan_UFallout301: No. I am going to have myhero change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.05:52
EmoBoiix3Pages just suddenly die05:52
TRAVISgChromium apps/chromium.rc does not exist05:52
EmoBoiix3And Google Chrome turns unresponsive within 10 seconds of execution05:52
kandinskiI want to search for a string in the package name05:52
Fallout301yea, thats what i was referring it, ive never done the process tho so i didn't know where it was hidden05:53
Jordan_Umyhero: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg so I can find the proper value for GRUB_DEFAULT.05:53
kandinskiso apt-cache search won't work for me, because it finds that string anywhere in a package description05:53
kandinskiany idea?05:53
myheroyea doing pastebin05:53
idan_so what i need if it not works..05:53
venkatmangudiidan_, did u display to sleep is what u need05:53
TRAVISgI am also having major problems with Chromium05:53
idan_yes05:53
idan_just the screen05:53
myherohttp://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN05:54
venkatmangudifot both ac power and battery?05:54
idan_that the computer will keep running05:54
venkatmangudi*for05:54
idan_no just i want the screenblack and the computer keep work05:54
Vlad___Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (05:54
venkatmangudithen go to screensaver settings05:54
venkatmangudiset blank screen05:55
venkatmangudiif u put display to sleep, computer will still work05:55
TRAVISgI can no longer use chromium error in terminal say segmentation fault05:55
TRAVISgSomething about apps/chromium.rc does not exist05:56
myhero@jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN05:56
idan_this option is in system settings?05:56
myhero@jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN05:56
Jordan_Umyhero: Run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub", which will bring up a text editor. Change   GRUB_DEFAULT=0   to GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"05:56
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idan_i don't know where the screensaver settings..05:57
venkatmangudiyep... should be in display...05:57
jeremiah_is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?05:57
venkatmangudiubuntu 11.10?05:57
idan_yep05:57
idan_ubuntu 11.1005:57
venkatmangudino screen settings?05:57
Jordan_Umyhero: Then save and close the file and run "sudo update-grub" and try rebooting to test that it worked.05:57
idan_oh screen05:57
idan_yes i have05:57
idan_and i need to tick the option dim screen to save power?05:58
myhero1min jordan editor came up05:58
venkatmangudiyep05:58
georgelappiesmorning all, has the day on which precise will be released been determined yet?05:58
jeremiah_is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?05:59
georgelappiesvenkatmangudi: was that an affirmation on my question, if so what is the date? ;)05:59
TRAVISgany know what is up with Chromium??? I have tried complete removal and reinstall still no luck. I am running ubuntu 11.1006:00
mi3hello!06:01
TRAVISgI have done a purge from terminal and reinstalled chromium stable still seem to be missing apps/chromium.rc whatever that is06:01
venkatmangudiGeorgelappies, i am sorry. was responding to idan_06:01
jeremiah_is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?06:01
idan_thank you very much it really work!06:01
idan_thank you!!06:01
icerootjeremiah_: #ubuntu+1 and yes but only from the oracle website06:02
myhero@jordan error encountered - pranshu@pranshu-Lenovo-G550:~$ sudo update-grub06:02
myhero/etc/default/grub: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected06:02
venkatmangudihave fun, idan_06:02
jeremiah_iceroot, how do i instal? the website isn't helpful.06:02
myherojordan...06:02
icerootjeremiah_: try to use openjdk instead its free06:03
TRAVISgCan any one help me with Chromium?06:03
jeremiah_ice command?06:03
jeremiah_iceroot, command.....06:03
icerootjeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre06:04
icerootjeremiah_: and 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+106:04
jeremiah_iceroot, ok and thanks!06:04
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myherojordan_u06:05
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nathwilljeremiah_ come party in #ubuntu+1, we have cookies06:07
TRAVISgAm I in the wrong place to ask about Chromium no functioning in Ubuntu 11.10?06:07
myherojordan where r u ?06:08
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myheroany106:09
Jordan_Umyhero: Can you pastebin the current contents of /etc/default/grub? You probably forgot the quotation marks.06:09
myheroyea i left them06:10
myherook trying again with quotation marks06:10
monadistwhat's the best resource to get started with qt... I want to use it to learn C++06:12
myherook jordan terminal did something....rebooting and checking...06:14
Vlad_____Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (06:34
Agent_bobis this a typo      (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)   should be   (/home/wirelesscheck.sh)    the extra space will cause a failure06:37
Agent_bob  @ Vlad_____06:37
DropsOfSerenitycan someone send me a message? just wanna test somethin06:38
Agent_bobnp06:38
irenicus19anyone knows how to effectively use powertop? :P06:40
irenicus19or how to save power ton laptp..06:41
irenicus19laptop*06:41
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Vlad_____Agent_bob: There is no typo in crontab, it in googletranslate ;)  syslog: CRON[5585]: (root) CMD (/home/wirelesscheck.sh) - path is ok.06:43
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Agent_bobvlad_____ ok,   just noticed the space there and knew that if it was in your file it would cause problems.      i don't know what else to tell you.   good luck ;/06:44
Vlad_____crontab: */5 * * * * /home/wirelesscheck.sh06:44
Agent_bobvlad_____    errr    /home/script.name     ?           not  /home/someuser/script.name  ?06:45
Agent_bobjust checking.06:46
FireStormshi guys, few months back I installed some audio package. Now when I plug my headphones into my laptop the sound does not stop playing through the laptop's speaker. I have forgot the name of the package too! Is there anyway I can find it?06:49
Agent_bobvlad_____   just a suggestion, when makeing scripts for cron or init you might want to protect them by letting root own them and putting them in /etc/ "or some other system dir".     if you own a script that cron runs as root, if someone accesses the script and changes it....  they own you!06:50
test1234567#ubuntu-de06:51
nathwillAgent_bob, i seem to remember a story about a girl pwn'ing her families parental controls that way...06:51
Agent_bobvlad_____ if root owns it and it's not writable to anyone else, and they can't delete it and replace it with their own script....   it's much harder to exploit.06:51
test1234567Hallo I need some help with flash and ubuntu 11.1006:52
Agent_bobnathwill   not familear with the story,  but it just stands to reason that you don't want root running your scripts if there is any chance of them being changed.06:52
Agent_bobnathwill  it's like locking the house and leaving the key under the welcome mat    :)))06:54
Vlad_____Agent_bob: who should owned script with "ifconfig down/up" and where i should store it?06:54
Agent_bobvlad_____    owner   root:root    permissions   750  or  755    and probably  in  /etc/  or   /var/   or even  /usr/local/sbin06:55
nathwillagent_bob: http://tinyurl.com/7jbtl3a06:55
Agent_bobnathwill  nice06:56
Vlad_____Agent_bob: thx. I try it now.06:56
nathwillvlad___ if it's a script that runs at network up/down events, and you're using networkmanager, /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ is brilliant06:56
Agent_bobnathwill   but cron is running every 5 minutes    so that would work but is like /usr/local/sbin   kinda06:57
Agent_bobone could also use  /root/06:57
Agent_bobthat's safe       "sort of"   :S06:57
nathwilloh06:57
nathwillsorry, didn't have the full picture06:57
tim167help, more and more programs start to SEGFAULT on me, what could be wrong?06:58
Bragex9how can I from a terminal window force ubuntu to reboot and perform a filesystem check?06:58
Agent_bobnathwill   your suggest wasn't bad...    just lacked one bit of info        so  not a problem.06:58
Agent_bobgood night all   !06:58
kingkatarii am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error07:00
tim167chromium-browser > Segmentation Fault, Evolution > Segmentation Fault, nautilus > Segmentation Fault.... help! I do have enough free disk space, I do have enough RAM afaict...help please ! thanks07:01
kingkatarichecking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes07:01
kingkatarichecking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no07:01
kingkatariconfigure: error: Missing required libmemcached library07:01
kingkatarihow can i check to make sure it is installed07:01
Myrttitim167: could you first tell us what version of Ubuntu you are using?07:01
kingkatari11.1007:02
DropsOfSerenityBragex9, sudo touch /forcefsck        sudo shutdown -r now07:02
Bragex9thanks07:02
tim167Myrtti: Ubuntu 11.1007:02
Myrttitim167: have you done RAM test yet?07:02
tim167Myrtti: how do I test RAM ?07:03
tim167Myrtti: I'm trying now with the 'System Testing' application07:04
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kingkatarican anyone help with that problem?07:07
kilik90squien viv e?07:14
kilik90sqien vive?07:14
kilik90sexico07:14
Myrttitim167: if you restart your computer, and press shift at the very beginning of boot, you should come up with a list of options including Ubuntu, and memtest+. Pick Memtest and let it run a few times, preferably overnight if possible07:14
tim167Myrtti: ok, I'll try that later, thanks07:15
FireStormscan I make Ubuntu speak to my Ipad 3?07:15
philip__guys, is it possible to build an rtl driver with dkms module for someone who can't access internet during install?07:18
djszapiHey! Has anybody tried Ubuntu on this Panasonic toughbook ? http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-laptop-toughbook-19.asp07:18
paulus68is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this07:18
djszapior basically on any fully-rugged Panasonic toughbook ?07:19
enniohi07:24
ennio!list07:24
ubottuennio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».07:24
kingkatarii am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error07:24
kingkatari checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes07:24
kingkatari checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no07:24
kingkatariconfigure: error: Missing required libmemcached library07:24
kingkataribut i have it installed so what can i do07:24
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auronandacedjszapi: should work, not sure about the gobi 2000 mobile broadband or the intel graphics though07:25
djszapiauronandace: yep, just checked out a youtube video, and looks good.07:25
hauxCan somebody recommend a program that will search files for a specific piece of text?07:25
auronandacedjszapi: depends how new the intel graphics is, also the specs don't mention if it uses sandy bridge07:26
Vlad___Heh! "/home/wirelesscheck.sh: line 2: iwconfig: command not found"07:26
Vlad___why?07:26
djszapihaux: grep07:27
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pmmrhaux: find .| grep -r 'text_to_search' *07:28
DropsOfSerenityVlad___, use /sbin/iwconfig07:28
hauxpmmr, if i want to search the entire filesystem, do I replace * with / ?07:28
gtech_I'm booted via liveCD but it's 32bit and the drive I'm mounting is a 64bit install, is there still an easy way to add a user to the install or should I stick to grabbing a 64bit live cd so I can chroot then adduser?07:29
pmmrhaux: run it in / with sudo07:29
hauxok, thank you guys07:29
pmmrhaux: np ;)07:29
Vlad___$iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script07:29
philip__I'm officially off. Later. :)07:29
gtech_Heh I need to be able to login with the new user so I can SU07:30
Vlad___DropsOfSerenity: $iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script. Why?07:31
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bekksgtech_: you dont need su, but sudo.07:33
pmmror sudo -i07:33
bekksAll you need to do is to provide a password to your new user.07:33
bekkssudo -i is discouraged.07:33
pmmrbekks: Because ? If you know what you're doing ;)07:34
gtech_erm what? I have no user I can login as when I boot the install, so I'm trying to add one07:34
bekkspmmr: _If_ - thats the culprit.07:34
gtech_the point is so that I can login, then su to a user that I've been locked out of because I borked my .profile and it's caused the startup to hang07:34
bekksgtech_: what are you really trying? During the install, you dont need to log in as user anyway.07:35
bekksJust get a live cd and fix that broken .profile07:35
paulus68is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this07:35
gtech_I'm using install to refer to the linux files that I've installed onto the drive already07:36
coder2Hello. Please help me to resolve shutdown issue with natty. My system is just repbooting instead of power off.07:36
bekkspaulus68: No, there is no easy way.07:36
coder2Lucid worked well though.07:37
bekksgtech_: Are you installing Ubuntu or are you trying to recover your .profile?07:37
gtech_I can't get to the .profile because my home dir is heavily encrypted and I have the login creds which by some opaque method yields the encryption passpharse which I have lost07:37
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bekksgtech_: So you even lost the key to decrypt your encrypted installation?07:37
gtech_but if I can login as another user, I can su to my normal user, which will decrypt my home dir07:37
paulus68bekks: ok is there a way to achieve this I am using squid?07:38
gtech_bekks, yes, yes I did :(07:38
bekkspaulus68: Sounds like heavy scripting, on-the-fly log file analysis, and usage of cron and smtp to inform you via mail.07:38
paulus68bekks: ok07:38
bekksgtech_: With a lost passphrase, you cant decrypt anything.07:39
gtech_bekks, nope the passphrase is on my disk, which is encrypted by my login, but I don't know where the encrypted passphrase is and it isn't at .ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase like the ubuntu docs suggest07:40
gtech_BUT ubuntu automatically grabs it when I login, so I'm relying on it07:40
gtech_thus, the reason why I'm using this roundabout method07:41
Vlad___DropsOfSerenity: ok, thanks u. I find that problem with PATH: in crontab07:41
bekksVlad___: Using the crontab, you have no environment - you have to specify absolute paths to applications you want to run.07:42
bekksVlad___: like /sbin/ifconfig instead of ifconfig.07:42
gtech_bekks, so chroot and adduser are my best options for creating a login?07:43
bekksgtech_: I still dont get why/what you are really trying, sorry.07:43
coder2Hello. Could anybody help, please.07:44
bekks!ask07:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:44
gtech_bekks, I'm trying to boot a liveCD, mount a drive which has the user I can't login to, create a user on that drive so I can login without the system hanging at login, then su07:44
coder2My system is running natty, It does not perform power off on shundown, just rebooting instead. How to fix it?07:45
bekksgtech_: su will invoke a login shell of the user you are trying to su to. Thus, it wont work, when the .profile is corrupted.07:45
linuxuz3rhello07:47
linuxuz3rhow do i show menus in gnome shell07:47
ubuntu__linuxuz3r, click on the application tab on the panel07:47
MarKsaitisif I download and install latest precise paragon server, can I later on upgrade it to the one released on 26th april?07:48
gtech_bekks, okay great, I guess my next option is to try to find the encrypted passphrase that's on my disk, I set it up probably with Natty, how do you suggest I find that file?07:48
linuxuz3rubuntu__, i want the gnome shell with the classic menu07:48
linuxuz3ri used to have it but now i dont07:48
ZengerHi guys,07:50
bekksgtech_: I never used ecryptfs (didnt make any sense to me at all) until now, sorry. Maybe the forums or the community help pages will help you.07:50
ZengerI've installed the nvidia driver but they have a very low res07:50
Zengercan't make bigger than 640x48907:50
bekksMarKsaitis: Yes.07:50
Zengeris there anyway I could change that ?07:50
Heshanhhewy guys first time running ubuntu here. i insalled lamp-server where do i find the apace config file07:51
MarKsaitisbekks, thank you!07:51
gtech_bekks, okay thanks07:51
bekksHeshanh: In /etc/ you will find the configuration files for apache, mysql and php.07:52
bekksHeshanh: How did you install your "lamp-server"?07:52
pmmrHeshanh: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -> Apache07:52
Heshanhso ect is where all the confi files are07:52
Heshanhwats the /var folder07:52
Heshanhcos i found www and figured thaths teh web root. but when i tried to create a folder in www it says persmission denied07:53
pmmrHeshanh: cd /var/www07:53
pmmrHeshanh: sudo mkdir "folder"07:53
pmmrHeshanh: sudo chmod -R 777 .07:54
Heshanhi cant use the gui?07:54
bekksNo.07:54
pmmrHeshanh: hum... not really ;)07:54
subthalamusanybody a minbif user?07:55
tim167hello, I copied a directory structure, using Nautilus, the original is 5Gb in size, but Nautilus shows the copy as 54MB, but it changes size each time I look at right-click>Properties in Nautilus, it grows or shrinks each time, but never is 5 GB. I copied it using "cp -r ~/source ~/media/dest" and that process finished successfully...I suppose something is wrong with Nautilus...how else can I check the actual size of the copied directory and ma07:55
tim167ke sure that everything is there?07:55
Heshanhdo i ahe to do sudo and give the password everytime i make a new dir07:55
linuxuz3rhow can i see the folder07:55
linuxuz3rs07:55
zahidhello07:56
pmmrHeshanh: not after the chmod -R 777 .07:56
zahidanybody here from lahore07:56
Heshanhi did sudo mkdir test in /var/www  and it asked for the password07:57
dcUnit3dhey so i've got a question.  my upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.07:57
subthalamusminbif says it is running but dont see it bound to a port using netstat -p07:57
dcUnit3di guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed07:58
subthalamus| minbig07:58
subthalamus*minbif07:58
dcUnit3d?? ..  anyways is there any way to like finish or repair the upgrades using my live cd?07:58
linuxuz3rhow do i install flash player07:58
dcUnit3di would just reinstall, but i went through hell to get my dual graphics to work07:58
arp-liberal:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree07:58
dcUnit3dand i really don't feel like doing that again07:58
arp-linuxuz3r *07:59
dcUnit3dhey, can anyone help me please?08:01
dcUnit3devery time i try to google this, all that comes up is repairing the GRUB bootloader and that's not what i need to do08:01
zeroblockwhats your problems08:01
dcUnit3dthanks man08:01
dcUnit3dmy upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.08:02
dcUnit3di guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed08:02
dcUnit3dlike it gets to the point where it says ubuntu and there are 5 dots on the screen.  but it just sits there.08:02
dcUnit3dI've got the live cd in now.  is there a way to clean my apt-get packages from the live cd?08:03
dcUnit3d(not the packages that the live cd is using)08:03
djszapiauronandace: do you think it is worth spending more money for an emperorlinux supported toughbook, or I can manually get ubuntu work ? I have ten years of linux experience and strong programming background.08:06
djszapiauronandace: but I have never dealt with this question in topic. However installing linux nowadays is easy-peasy. I guess touch is not really a problem either nowadays, nor the keyboard.08:06
djszapiauronandace: perhaps the graphics stack, or something else ?08:07
DropsOfSerenityVlad___, glad I helped, yeah those PATH vars are tricky, was about to tell you that that sort of stuff can get funky when dealing with scripts08:07
Vlad___DropsOfSerenity: ;)08:08
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opalepatrickis it not possible to have a global inbox in thunderbird? Using ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. Cannot find the setting08:11
linuxuz3rany one have windows 7 recovery partition?08:11
linuxuz3ror windows vista recovery partition08:11
kapzI want to share my Samsung printer (ML-1670) connected via usb to Ubuntu 11.10  with Windows 7. bot pcs are in LAN. I have shared my printer via cups through IPP, I can also add it in windows..but when I send print job nothing happens...08:16
kapzdamn it08:18
bekkskapz: Then check the cups logs.08:18
nlkohi, i am using gpg keys for encryption of files. can i use these public/private keys for ssh auth?08:19
nlkoor do i need to generate different ones?08:19
bekksnlko: gpg keys cant be used with ssh.08:19
linuxuz3rcan i run compiz on top of gnome shell?08:19
nlkobekks: thanks08:19
jasonmsphey all.  I've just created a long and complex bash script.  It works perfectly, but every now and then I would like to run it within the terminal and see it enter the commands along with the output.  Is there a way to do this?08:19
bekksnlko: ssh-keygen -t dsa will generate a DSA keypair for your user.08:19
nlkobekks: and then i use that right?08:20
bekksnlko: Right.08:20
bekksjasonmsp: Just set "set -xv" directly after the "#!/bin/bash" line in your script.08:20
jasonmspbekks: thanks i figured it was something simple..08:21
kapzthanks bekks, I've checked the log and this is what I've found: Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost08:21
kapzwhat does it mean?08:21
bekkskapz: That your client (the pc that wants to print) isnt allowed to print on that printer queue08:22
totesmuhgoatsis the mplayer version in oneiric not multi threaded?08:22
kapzbekks: Isn't allowed? but why? I shared the printer in cups....I don't understand.08:23
banseljajHi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.1008:33
progre55Hi guys. I have a problem since a couple of days with my encrypted home not mounting automatically on logon, and every time I boot up, I have to go to tty and manually "sudo mount /home". Any suggestions, please?08:33
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teamHi, i dont understand the difference between initrd and initramfs ?08:33
skurceywich firewall should i use, please? (ubuntu 11.10)08:35
jettyskurcey: ufw08:35
jetty<team> one is fs , other uses it08:36
icerootskurcey: normally you dont need a firewall08:36
steineselI am trying to configure my 11.04 32bit OS to function with my Garmin Oregon GPSr. I am getting this Error Message from Gebbabel: [ERROR] XSERIAL: Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX': No such file or directory08:36
steinesel[ERROR] Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX'08:36
steineselGARMIN:Can't init /media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX08:36
llutz_team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initd08:36
llutz_team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd08:37
dcUnit3di would really reallly reallly appreciate it if someone could help me08:37
dcUnit3di hosed my ubuntu by canceling an apt-get update08:38
llutz_steinesel: how do you try to access it?08:38
dcUnit3dand i'm trying to repair it with a Live CD08:38
banseljajdcUnit3d: Continue?08:38
ikoniadcUnit3d: it's going to take a fair ammount of effort to resolve that08:38
dcUnit3di chrooted to my mounted partition08:38
banseljajdcUnit3d: First explain "hosed"08:39
dcUnit3dbut i'm getting "chould not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor"08:39
dcUnit3dthanks banseljaj08:39
dcUnit3dand ikonia08:39
dcUnit3di was trying to update my xserver settings to include a second monitor08:39
dcUnit3dand i had already started to update some of my packages08:39
dcUnit3di noticed that the progress bar was stuck for awhile08:40
steineselI used the gebabbel as a gui for gpsbabel. pointed the device toward the mounted spot (which appeared on my desktop after plugging the device)08:40
dcUnit3dand i hit cancel and restarted08:40
dcUnit3dand then it just wouldn't restart08:40
gensvis there anyone else than me who has problems fetching the package lists from the security repos?08:40
dcUnit3dit got stuck on the screen with "ubuntu" and 5 dots08:40
llutz_steinesel: idk about oregon, older like vista hcx etc need to unload "garmin" kernel-module and being accessed through "USB:"08:40
dcUnit3dso i assumed that it was in the middle of updating and it didn't finish updating a critical package08:41
ikoniadcUnit3d: fixing these things from this point of view is normally a big ammount of effort and takes a reasonable level of experience08:41
ikoniadcUnit3d: you may want to consider backing up your data (while you have a livecd) and then just re-installing08:41
steineselI have put the kernel module on the blacklist08:41
ohmyHi, a have a big raw binary file, i know that it contains some png files inside and i'm looking for a way of extracting them, do anyone know a solution ?08:42
gensvoh sorry apparently i have problem fetching the package list for any site that is in the us08:42
ikoniaohmy: run the binary file08:42
ikoniaohmy: run "file" against it to confirm details08:42
dcUnit3dikonia: the only issue i would have with that is that there was one night where i spent literally 12 hours getting my dual graphics card to work.08:42
gensvcannot ping us.archive.ubuntu.com either08:43
ikoniadcUnit3d: so backup your xorg.conf08:43
steineselwhen looking as the dmesg output the gpsr is recognised as serial and not attached to tty008:43
ohmyikonia: By binary i meant a raw data file08:43
llutz_steinesel: if you mounted the oregon, can't you just use nautilus to access the files08:43
dcUnit3dikonia: i think i would know how to get it to work now, but still.08:43
ikoniaohmy: "raw data file"???? what08:43
ikoniaohmy: run "file" against it and tell me what it says08:43
ikoniadcUnit3d: ok, so you can spend hours trying to fix your in flux system, or you could spend 30 minutes re-installing then 30 minutes applying your settings/restoring your data08:43
dcUnit3dikonia: it was more than that, i have to install nvidia drivers, etc etc.08:44
steineselyes I can but other applications (such as OCM) will not work without Gpsbabel fully functional :-(08:44
gensvbut i still cannot connect to the ppas08:44
dcUnit3dikonia: i have everything on a second partition08:44
llutz_steinesel: does "gpsbabel -w -i garmin -f usb: -o gpx -F geocaches.gpx" work on cli?08:44
ikoniadcUnit3d: great, so 30 minutes re-installing then08:44
ohmyikonia: foo.db: data08:45
ikoniaohmy: is it a .db extension ?08:45
steineselNope I get: Found no Garmin USB devices. (although the garmin is mounted and I can go there with nautilus)08:46
ohmyikonia: no no it doesn't have any extension, its a file i extracted from some old hard drive that crashes, when i read it with a hex editor i saw many PNG IEND tags that are specific to png08:46
llutz_steinesel: umount it, "sudo modprobe -r garmin" and try again08:46
dcUnit3dikonia: ok thats what ill do.  thanks for the advice.08:47
ikoniaohmy: you need to know how it was created then08:47
ikoniadcUnit3d: I know it's not "cool" but it will give you a solid stable, working system in 30 minutes, rather than a working system that may have problems after 5 hours of trying to work it out08:47
progre55so can anyone help me out, please? with my home not being mounted automatically?08:47
ZengerHi guys , I'm desperate, I've installed the nvidia driver and it gives me low resolution. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make the resolution 1024x764 but I need 1280x1024. Now the nvidia-settings shows me only 640 and 360 res.08:47
llutz_steinesel: gpsbabel does not work with mounted devices, it uses direct access (it did at least with older garmin-gpsr)08:47
ZengerHow can I set a bigger resolution, maybe xrender.08:48
ohmyikonia: i only know that my drive crashed, and i have lot lot of files i cannot chek how each of them was created, for sure it looks that that file containes lot of png images and wanted to know if per magic, any of the recovery tool can look inside data files for give file format and extract it08:48
progre55Zenger: did you try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?08:48
ikoniaohmy: to know how to extrat it you need to know how it was created08:49
Zengerprogre55: It does nothing.08:49
steineselllutz_ : I get: FATAL: Module garmin not found.08:49
ikoniaohmy: or at least how it's put together,08:49
dcUnit3dikonia: that's true.  just a little frustrated.  not what i wanted to do tonight, was going to set up a git server on here.  just needed to change my monitor.  i really do appreciate it though.  thanks.08:49
ohmyikonia: They are concatenate08:49
paulus68Ikonia: hi, little question is there in squid a possibility to check when a user is connected and that I can be notified by mail when a connection by this user is done?08:49
ikoniadcUnit3d: if you are going to use this for work, eg run a git server so you can do work, get a stable box08:49
llutz_steinesel:  "sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps"08:49
ohmyikonia: each png after the other08:49
ikoniadcUnit3d: as in re-install to get a stable box08:49
progre55Zenger: or you could back up your xorg.conf and delete it, when you restart, it should be auto-generated.. but dont forget to back it up first08:50
ZengerI tried - gives 640 resolution08:50
Erwin-C64Hello, I want to download Ubuntu but am not sure what version to choose. I have an intel I7 and 16 GB ram, so I want a 64 bit OS, should I download AMD64?08:50
ikoniaohmy: you'll have to look at splitting them out, you'll need to work out start/end points for each then cut them out, if you can work out start/end points should be doable08:50
llutz_Erwin-C64: yes08:50
ikoniapaulus68: not really very realistic, the best you can do is tail the access log, and when you see the "auth" of that user mail out08:50
ohmyikonia: thank you08:51
paulus68ikonia: ok what would the tail command be?08:51
steineselllutz_ : Just to confirm - after sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps I plug the gps back to system ?08:51
bekkspaulus68: I told you "no" already ;)08:51
Erwin-C64llutz_: Thanks, why would they call it AMD when it runs on Intel also :P08:51
bekkspaulus68: You have to grep the logs.08:51
ikoniapaulus68: "tail" is the command08:51
llutz_steinesel: yes, and don't mount it08:51
paulus68bekks: I know what you said08:51
steinesellluty_ I believe it will automount08:51
llutz_steinesel: then umount it08:52
MarKsaitiscan I upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to that new one 12 which will be released this month?08:52
bekksMarKsaitis: Yes.08:52
MarKsaitisLike if I have openvz with ubuntu 11, i can then just upgrade when that new one will be released?08:53
bekksMarKsaitis: No.08:53
MarKsaitishmz08:53
MarKsaitiswhy not08:53
bekksMarKsaitis: There are two Ubuntu 11 versions, 11.04 and 11.10 - you cant update 11.04 directly.08:54
ZengerAny ideeas08:54
Zenger??08:54
triptecnouveau doesn't work, I don't get even the grub menu, anyone who knows what I can do?08:54
bekksMarKsaitis: And using an openvz, there are fair chances to break that vm :)08:54
icerootMarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too08:54
steineselllutz_ : done08:54
MarKsaitiswhat version of ubuntu do I need to have in order to upgrade directly to that ubuntu 12 precise I think it is isnt it?08:55
icerootMarKsaitis: but that is just guessing and i am not n100% sure08:55
banseljajHi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.10. It is not connecting to my phone.08:55
llutz_steinesel: any erros from gpsbabel?08:55
icerootMarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.0408:55
banseljajMarKsaitis: you can upgrade to 12.04 by either 11.10, or 10.0408:55
icerootMarKsaitis: only from an older lts release you can upgrade directly08:55
steineselllutz_ Yes: Found no Garmin USB devices.08:56
mbroekerbanseljaj, do you have an older usb dongle?08:56
MarKsaitishow about ubuntu 11.04?08:56
bekks"No".08:56
icerootMarKsaitis: what about it?08:56
desomorphinemy former friend/bitter enemy is named stefano08:56
bekksMarKsaitis: You have to update it to 11.10 first.08:56
llutz_steinesel: try it as root, using sudo gpsbabel ... pls08:56
desomorphinehe's gone08:56
banseljajmbroeker: Not a dongle. Laptop has it integrated in Motherboard. It pairs fine with my cell.08:56
banseljajMarKsaitis: You'll have to update 11.04 to 11.10 first08:57
MarKsaitishmz. I am confused now, very. I am just trying to buy myself an openvz plan which I could upgrade to ubuntu 12 LTS when it gets released08:57
icerootMarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.0408:57
MarKsaitisok08:57
banseljajMarKsaitis: And what seems to be the problem?08:57
bekksMarKsaitis: You cant update an openvz container the way you think you can.08:57
steineselI checked the dmesg and this is what the system says after I plug the gps:[ 3948.140080] usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 608:57
steinesel[ 3948.273635] scsi7 : usb-storage 2-5:1.008:58
steinesel[ 3949.273848] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN Flash     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 508:58
banseljajMarKsaitis: what iceroot said08:58
icerootMarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too08:58
steinesel[ 3949.274212] scsi 7:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN SD Card   1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 508:58
steinesel[ 3949.274939] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 008:58
FloodBot1steinesel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:58
steinesel[ 3949.275375] sd 7:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 008:58
MarKsaitisso according to iceroot, if I buy openvz from something like vmport.com, then I can not update to ubuntu 12 LTS server08:59
steineselllutz_ : and no change when running gpsbabel with sudo same error message08:59
Defusal_hi everyone08:59
bekksMarKsaitis: Not that easy. You have to use the old kernel or get the openvz host updated to a new kernel too.08:59
banseljajMarKsaitis: openvz has which version?08:59
Defusal_can anyone tell me how i can get out of XFCE and back into ubuntu desktop without rebooting after using startx to get into XFCE?09:00
MarKsaitisis it bad to use older kernel in new ubuntu 12 os?09:00
icerootMarKsaitis: normally not09:01
llutz_steinesel: things seem to have changed with Oregons. sry no more ideas then. that worked since years for me with my old vistaHCX and some other devices.09:01
icerootMarKsaitis: but why you need 12.04?09:01
icerootMarKsaitis: just because it is new?09:01
MarKsaitissure, I want to be on the edge09:01
steineselllutz_ Thanx for the help anyway!!!09:01
icerootMarKsaitis: sorry, that is stupid09:01
bekksiceroot: ack.09:01
llutz_steinesel: check http://rfc1149.de/index.php#2010-10-31   and try again09:01
MarKsaitisit isnt, I want to have a new OS which will have support for the next 5 years09:02
MarKsaitisnot so stupid is it09:02
MarKsaitispeace of mind09:02
icerootMarKsaitis: first you did not say because of lts09:02
llutz_steinesel: good luck and happy caching:)09:02
bekksMarKsaitis: Then get a openvz hoster that supports 12.04 after it is released.09:02
MarKsaitiswell, im only looking in to lts. anyways, thats what I want :)09:02
icerootMarKsaitis: the reason lts is of course not stupid, just the "i want always the newest software"09:02
MarKsaitissure, I want the newest up to date stable, why not09:03
llutz_"newest up to date stable" is a oxymoron09:03
icerootMarKsaitis: hm up to date and stable... hm09:03
icerootllutz_: :)09:03
MarKsaitiswell, I mean latest stable :)09:04
iceroot:)09:04
MarKsaitisI dont want 2 years old stable or 3 years old stable, I want the newest stable, simply true09:04
icerootMarKsaitis: why not 2 years old stable?09:04
icerootMarKsaitis: because that release is STABLE09:05
bekksMarKsaitis: And in 4.5 years, it is still stable, since LTS.09:05
icerootand if you want ultra-stable there is a nother distro09:05
heavyhow can I install budus xdcc???09:05
DropsOfSerenityMarKsaitis, stable can also mean working together properly, as if you have all the latest packages they may not all work together corectly.09:05
bekksheavy: Whats that?09:05
DropsOfSerenityMarKsaitis, while they may be individually stable, as a whole they will not be09:05
prototyperocking hi all09:05
MarKsaitisI think the newest stable is better than 2 years old stable. Otherwise nobody would develop the newer one09:05
heavyBuDuScRiPt09:05
heavya plugin for xchat09:06
bekksheavy: some warez thing, right?09:06
icerootMarKsaitis: newer does not mean better09:06
prototypei want to use facebook massenger in command mode anyone can help me ?09:06
icerootprototype: have a look at bitlbee + irssi09:06
MarKsaitisso whats the point of developing a stable which is worse09:06
MarKsaitis=))))09:06
bekksprototype: Facebook doesnt support anything other than their webbased chat.09:06
icerootMarKsaitis: its just when 12.04 is coming out it will not be stable like 10.0409:07
scientesbekks, that is not true, they support a minimal XMPP09:07
scientesbekks, prototype facebook works with pidgin and empathy09:07
scienteswith XMPP09:07
icerootMarKsaitis: so i dont get why people want 12.04 directly09:07
DropsOfSerenityprototype, look into pidgins cli interface, i'm pretty sure it can interface with facebook09:07
scientesiceroot, it has alot more features and better software, (unfortunately not systemd or kmod)09:08
MarKsaitis:) I just want to get my hands on the new stuff and leave them there09:08
icerootMarKsaitis: the software in 12.04 is at the moment not so good tested like the one from 10.0409:08
DropsOfSerenityprototype, it's name is finch09:08
icerootscientes: better software?09:08
bekksmore features?09:08
bekksDid they invent the wheel again? :)09:08
siavashserversimplified09:08
scienteswell, alot of stuff is a moving target, 3.2 kernel supports alot more hardware09:08
icerootless features because padevchooser is missing :(09:09
scientesiceroot, i think you can still do that with pulseaudio09:09
bekksscientes: A lot more hardware a home user never ever even knows about ;)09:09
icerootscientes: yes09:09
icerootscientes: but not that easy09:09
scientesbekks, not it terms of progress with radeon and nouveau driver09:09
scientesand also alot of other stuff09:09
icerootscientes: and if i am correct a newer kernel was backported to 10.0409:10
scientesplenty of hardware progress09:10
* scientes promotes newer kernels09:10
mkultra_yo yo yo09:10
* scientes is using 12.04 and doing great09:10
icerooti dont see a single reason to use 12.04 on a server in 1 month09:10
mkultra_metoo09:10
scientesiceroot, ubuntu isn't that great for servers09:10
icerootscientes: that is the next part09:10
scientescause universe is always out of date, esp in the LTS releases09:11
scientesbuggy and security-prone to, compared to debian stable09:11
icerootyes, debian stable is imo the best choice for a debian(based) system for a server09:11
mkultra_gentoo cluster style09:11
scientesugggggh, binary packages is WAY better09:12
mkultra_lol09:12
mkultra_source is gangster dog09:12
scientesdont get me wrong, i do alot of compilation09:12
scientesbut binary packages is still the way to go09:12
mkultra_yeah source takes forever lol09:12
DropsOfSerenityI would use debian for servers, more stable, don't need the latest packages.09:12
mkultra_but like in a small office setting beowolf a bunch of pcs and make em all compile at the same time09:13
Defusal_if anyone can tell me how to start ubuntu-desktop gnome from terminal, please let me know09:14
scientesits called distcc Mkaysi09:14
scientes* mkultra_09:14
mkultra_should be startx defusal09:14
bekksmkultra_: beowulf is pretty dead - use dicc or icecream instead. :)09:14
mkultra_dead u say?09:14
scientesDefusal_, /etc/init.d/*dm restart09:14
bekks*distcc09:14
scientesDefusal_, and then if you want apps, you have to do DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal09:14
Defusal_mkultra, that starts XFCE which has no sound09:14
bekksmkultra_: Dead as in "He's dead, Jim. Just let him go."09:14
icerootDefusal_: sudo service lightdm start09:14
icerootDefusal_: sudo service gdm start09:14
DropsOfSerenityDefusal_, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart09:14
icerootDefusal_: depending on your ubuntu version09:15
iceroot!upstart | DropsOfSerenity09:15
ubottuDropsOfSerenity: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:15
scientes!systemd09:15
DropsOfSerenityiceroot, ah yes forgot about that, thanks09:15
scientesupstart is obsolete09:15
icerootscientes: not in ubuntu09:15
scientesiceroot, https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/systemd09:16
heavy /server irc.openjoke.org09:16
icerootscientes: yes, not default in ubuntu09:16
scientesiceroot, but Martin Pitt is a Canonical emplyee09:16
icerootscientes: and?09:17
scientesso, they are finially catching up with debian :)09:17
bekksNo.09:17
Defusal_sigh09:17
bekksyou think they are just because _one_ employee ha a private PPA? Odd.09:17
icerootscientes: as i said default is upstart and we are in #ubuntu and only teach supported things09:17
Defusal_"sudo service gdm start" almost works09:18
icerootscientes: we have wayland in 12.04 too. what do you think? it is now the default? of course not09:18
scienteswe support all sort of unsupported stuff, its about solving problems09:18
Defusal_but it says that its in low graphics mode, wont let me reconfigure and seems to wait forever for teh display to restart09:18
icerootscientes: and ppas are even mor unofficial09:18
Defusal_any ideas?09:18
icerootscientes: we support here only supported stuff09:18
scientesDefusal_, paste the output of "lspci" on the command line09:19
scientesDefusal_, you could also try service gdm stop09:19
scientesand then after that is done service gdm start09:19
scienteswhich might work better09:20
Defusal_scientes, how can i paste something?09:20
bekks!paste09:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:20
Defusal_i have to switch my keyboards usb cable just to be able to type on the machine09:20
scientesDefusal_, which one doesn't work, PS/2 or USB?09:20
Defusal_scientes, stop says unknown instance09:20
scientesDefusal_, and do you see anything interesting in "dmesg"?09:21
Defusal_scientes, i usually use vnc for all access to the machine09:21
scientesDefusal_, also !ssh -X09:21
scientes!Xforwarding09:21
Defusal_i just need xubuntu to work again, sigh09:21
scienteshttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X-Forwarding <--reasonable explaination of x forwarding09:21
scientesDefusal_, usually /etc/init.d/*dm restart works, for me09:22
Defusal_scientes, "dmesg" floods my screen, how am i supposed to see anything?09:22
scientesthe low graphics might mean that you are using a propritary driver Defusal_ and maybe a restart will work09:22
jpdsscientes: You could use xpra instead.09:22
Defusal_sigh09:22
Defusal_so screwed09:22
Defusal_i would be happy to just get it working in low graphics mode09:23
Defusal_any idea how to do that?09:23
Defusal_i don't care how it looks, i need sound working09:23
scientesjpds, i dont want persistance09:23
scientesjpds, X apps and persistance does not meet in a ven diagram of my computing09:23
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lpeafternoon gents, anyone seen this before and knows how to solve it? http://hastebin.com/tayitotane.php09:24
Guest61815Hi, is there a way to run a script when the charger is unplugged?09:24
scientesDefusal_, then just click the "run in low graphics mode this time"09:24
Defusal_starting gdm and saying run in low graphics just sits on "Stand by one minute while display restarts"09:24
Defusal_scientes ^09:24
scientesahh09:24
Defusal_sigh09:24
* scientes hasn't had that error since, like, 9.0409:25
Defusal_ffs09:25
scientesusually meant, (for me) that i needed to restart for dkms to make nvidia work again09:25
Defusal_i can't waste this amount of time :(09:25
scientesDefusal_, did you try rebooting?09:25
Defusal_scientes, graphics is intel09:25
Defusal_rebooting will waste far more time09:25
scientesoh ok, that should jsut work09:26
Defusal_that is the issue09:26
mkultra_gksu jockey-gtk didnt install nvidia right?09:26
scientesDefusal_, what version?09:26
scientes(of ubuntu)09:26
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Defusal_scientes: 10.1009:27
sudobeepsalve a tutti!09:28
bekks!it09:28
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:28
Onixs si09:28
Defusal_***************09:28
Defusal_thanks for trying anyway scientes09:28
sudobeephi to all09:28
Defusal_im completely screwed09:29
Defusal_looks like theres no quick fix09:29
scientesDefusal_, what i would do at that point would be install an up to date kernel09:29
scientesand maybe !xorg-edgers09:29
scientes!xorg-edgers09:29
Defusal_scientes, and that would help me start xubuntu without rebooting?09:29
Defusal_i think not09:29
scientesbut that is a risky proposition, considering that its kinda old09:29
scientesno that would def require reboot09:29
scientesDefusal_, oh, you can just do DESKTOP=:0 application09:30
SimmonsHello, can someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win709:30
scienteslike DESKTOP=:0 gnome-shell09:30
scientesDefusal_, when you have the "wait till i restart" going09:30
scientesrun metacity to get control over windows09:30
Defusal_what?09:30
Defusal_i don't follow09:30
Defusal_when you have the "wait till i restart" going09:31
scientesok, from the terminal on the tty09:31
Defusal_what wait till restart?09:31
scienteswhen it says "wait til i reastart", then hit ctrl-alt-f109:31
scientesand then log in09:31
scientesand then do "DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal"09:31
scientesthen do ctrl-alt-f709:31
scientesand type in "metacity --replace & "09:31
scientesand then you can launch whatever the xubuntu menu is, etc09:32
mkultra_just install tilda, and synaptic09:32
Defusal_scientes, i don't have a gnome-terminal09:32
Defusal_this is xubuntu09:32
scientesDefusal_, then use xterm09:32
mkultra_would be xfce4-terminal09:32
scientesor xterm...09:32
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mkultra_xterm blows lol09:32
scientesit also works09:33
Defusal_xfce4-terminal is not installed09:33
mkultra_lxterms good though09:33
Simmonscan someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win709:33
Defusal_xterm says DISPLAY is not set09:33
mkultra_install a terminal lol09:33
Defusal_:((09:33
scientesDefusal_, "DISPLAY=:0 xterm"09:33
mkultra_sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal09:33
scientesall on one line Defusal_09:33
Defusal_mkultra_, i just need to get xubuntu desktop open09:33
Defusal_scientes, you already said that09:33
Defusal_it does not work09:33
prototypethanks freinds for finch09:33
Defusal_like i just told you09:33
mkultra_startxfce409:33
Defusal_nothing works :(09:33
mkultra_?09:33
scienteswell if you type that DISPLAY is set09:33
Defusal_mkultra_, that is the one thing i do NOT want to do09:34
Defusal_i need sound09:34
AmdpcSimmons : rrinstall mint on ubu tu partition.09:34
Defusal_xubuntu has sound, xfce does not09:34
scientesDefusal_, ????that doesn't do anything about sound09:34
__sjhloha, using 10.04, trying to change locale have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale, but after running update-locale lang=en_GB.UTF-8, relogged, then run locale, now i see LANG= .... and nothing else, any ideas?09:34
Defusal_scientes, xubuntu was working with sound before09:34
scientesDefusal_, to get sound manually do "pulseaudio --daemonize"09:34
Defusal_when i used startx, it started xfce instead09:34
Defusal_with no sound09:34
bekksDefusal_: You have far more severe problems rather than "no sound", dont you?09:34
scientesbut yeah, it sounds like the whole system is borked, and you should backup and reinstall with 11.10 or 12.0409:35
Defusal_bekks, sound is my only requirement at this stage09:35
Defusal_scientes, it is a live boot from a usb drive.09:35
SimmonsAmdpc I need to choose something else? and what? and I have widnows partitons and mint partition I need to format mint partition?09:35
Defusal_i just need sound working09:35
scientesoh geeze, then reformat it, and use a more recent version09:35
Defusal_which was working when xubuntu desktop was wroking09:36
scientesDefusal_, as i said, pulseaudio --daemonize09:36
bekksDefusal_: Minutes ago it was the wrong desktop environment...09:36
Defusal_scientes, what part are you not following09:36
scientesthat will launch sound Defusal_09:36
Defusal_i can't even reboot, that would take too long to start everything up again09:36
Defusal_and get everything configured09:36
scientesDefusal_, xfce != sound09:36
Defusal_i just need it working09:36
scientesDefusal_, they are totally differn't things09:36
Defusal_scientes, i told you09:36
Defusal_xubuntu had sound09:36
Defusal_it was working09:36
FloodBot1Defusal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:36
scientesDefusal_, yeah i read what you said, but its not useful09:36
fidelDefusal_: could you resummarize your entire problem again?09:37
scientesDefusal_, because it doesn't describe what is actually happening at the software level, its just unreliable heresay at this point09:37
fidelas in - giving a compact but complete summary09:37
scientesgood idea09:37
Defusal_scientes, does pulse audio only work when a xserver is running?09:37
Defusal_because it fails to start from tty09:37
scientesDefusal_, pulse can work without any x at all09:37
Defusal_well it fails09:38
scientesDefusal_, it might already be running09:38
scientesDefusal_, no wait, it might require dbus to be running09:38
scientesDefusal_, which generally is only launched with x1109:38
bekksdbus does not need X itself.09:38
scientesbekks, true09:38
Defusal_fidel, xubuntu was running, it got killed, i need sound for a critical application to be able to run, using startx starts xfce instead of xubuntu desktop with no sound, using service start gdm says low graphics and hangs waiting for the xserver to start09:39
scientesnow, if ubuntu was using systemd dbus might be able to launch itsself (the session bus that is ) right?09:39
__sjhok.... os, is there another channel for ubuntu server discussion?09:39
scientesDefusal_, are you running as root by chance?09:39
bekksscientes: Ubuntu does not use systemd. Done.09:39
Defusal_scientes, no09:39
llutz___sjh: #ubuntu-server09:40
Defusal_i'll try start xfce and then pulseaudio09:40
scientesDefusal_, yes try that09:40
scientesand if you can try to start pulseaudio from a terminal in X09:40
__sjhllutz_, thanks, i'll go try over there ;)09:40
scientescause you get differn't environment variables there09:40
Defusal_scientes, still says "Daemon startup failed"09:41
Defusal_f***09:41
scientesDefusal_, ps aux | grep pulse09:41
scientesit could already be running09:41
Defusal_scientes: it is not09:42
scientesif you avoid the --daemonize option it might give better output09:42
ThermoelectricQuestion: Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 from a hard drive, it boots to the installer, but stalls when it can't find the cdrom drive. Any ideas?09:42
Defusal_scientes: it cant connect to dbus socket09:43
Defusal_any ideas? :/09:43
scientesThermoelectric, are you using unetbootin?09:43
brtrndcan somebody help me troubleshoot a network issue on oneiric? after ubuntu install it worked but while configuring vnc i must have broken it. now the computer doesnt have network09:43
Defusal_how can i start dbus?09:43
Thermoelectricscientes, Unetbootin didn't want to install to this hard drive, so I used the dd method instead.09:44
scientesDefusal_, try dbus-daemon --session09:44
brtrndit's wireless,it shows enabled but cant find any networks09:44
scientesDefusal_, however i have never really understood dbus that much09:44
Defusal_sigh09:45
Defusal_this is hopeless09:45
bekksbrtrnd: vnc does not touch the network configuration at all.09:45
scientesThermoelectric, dd if=/the/iso of=/dev/sdLETTER (no number) ?09:45
Defusal_wasted an hour already09:45
scientesThermoelectric, you wont be able to install from the same drive its booting off of with that09:45
Defusal_i may as well restart and start reconfiguring everything again09:45
brtrndbekks thats what i supposed but after that my network connection is gone09:45
Defusal_im gonna be bankrupted by this :(09:46
Thermoelectricscientes, Yep, that. The machine boots to the installer and everything, just hangs at the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" part.09:46
bekksThermoelectric: Do you want to install the iso to an USB stick or to an harddrive?09:46
Defusal_thanks for trying anyway scientes09:46
brtrndiwconfig says "no wireless extension" and ifconfig doesn't say anything about an ip adress09:46
Thermoelectricscientes, I've got a separate hard drive to install it on.09:46
scientesThermoelectric, so this is the alternate? you can skip that step09:46
scientesit just will elevate into the "expert mode"09:46
ThermoelectricYeah, it's the alternate, didn't see the other one. What do I hit to skip it?09:47
scientesho wait i guess you cant really skip that one09:47
bekksThermoelectric: Are you trying to run the installer from an USB stick or from a live cd?09:47
Thermoelectricbekks, From a hard drive.09:47
scientesThermoelectric, try it again with the mini.iso, which boots totally into ram, or use the Livecd version09:47
ThermoelectricOkay, thanks.09:47
bekksThermoelectric: That wont work most likely. Not using the dd approach.09:47
allenyktest09:47
allenyk:test09:48
scientesThermoelectric, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ precise amd64: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso09:48
bekksallenyk: You missed.09:48
ThermoelectricCheers scientes09:49
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Defusal_scientes, how can i test sound?09:50
scientesDefusal_, alsamixer might be a good sanity check09:52
scientesDefusal_, otherwise, well just try to use it, use a music player or something09:53
PetskullHey- I want to make a 'shortcut' on my desktop to a codeblocks project within a deeply ordered hierarchy.  I want it to open the file from it's current location, rather than from the Desktop, because it can't find the program files otherwise.  Any ideas?09:53
FoggalongHello09:53
Defusal_scientes, ok thanks09:53
scientesPeterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;09:53
Foggalongtyler_d: Are you here?09:53
Defusal_scientes, i dunno what you were trying to tell me about ssh -X earlier09:53
Defusal_but i use TurboVNC as it has far better performance than any other linux remote desktop client i have seen09:54
scientesDefusal_, that allows you to use graphical apps from another computer, but in a way that is differn't than VNC09:54
Defusal_TurboVNC works great, especially over Gbps LAN09:55
scientesDefusal_, and more integrated, as it is application-level, rather than whole-desktop09:55
scientesand VNC is a HORRIBLE protocol09:55
Defusal_scientes, options are limited when you want to use windows as a client09:55
Defusal_but nothing comes close to TurboVNC in performance09:55
scientesDefusal_, peopl actually use ssh -X on windows, with xming and pidgin09:56
Defusal_i have tried many different protocols over the years09:56
* scientes hasn't done that09:56
scientes*xming and putty09:56
PetskullAnybody?09:56
bobweaverPetskull,  would this help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available09:56
scientesPetskull, i gave you an answer09:56
scientesahh Petskull <scientes> Peterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;09:56
* Petskull scrolls up09:56
Petskullyeah, that's what I thought.  I was just wondering if there was something simpler natively- thanks, man.09:57
scientesPeterman, or gnome-open for the equivilent of double-clicking with nautilus09:57
scientesbut xdg-open is more portable09:57
scientesas it will work in xfce and kde, etc09:57
scientesPeterman, well, .desktop files is the preferred way of doing it, .....09:58
Petskullthanks, bobweaver09:58
scientescause that supports internationalization Petskull09:58
Petskullyeah, I just didn't want a whole thing that felt like hacking up da mainframe.  I was just wondering if there was something like "middle-click drag from the folder to the desktop" or something09:59
bobweavernp Petskull09:59
Petskullsomething to be done on the fly09:59
TaekI am a land-shark with wifi-irc in a hospital.10:00
scientesPetskull, you could scour this: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/10:00
bobweaveryeah Just add like them lines into /usr/share/applications/codeblock   so that it opens where you want it to10:00
scientesas it does support internationalization which is cool10:01
Bhaumikhello10:01
TaekHola10:01
Petskullhmm10:01
Bhaumiki want to create repository server for only updates10:01
Bhaumikany 1 can help me?10:01
brtrndhow can i troubleshoot network issues? i can't connect ubuntu to my wireless (probably a wrong command while configuring vino)10:02
bekksbrtrnd: vino does not change the network configuration at all.10:02
bekksbrtrnd: You have to ensure that your network is working at all.10:02
TaekBhaumik why?10:03
brtrndthe network is working, the windows i have is connected to the wireless the same way10:03
bekksbrtrnd: Windows is out of interest. Does your Ubuntu box has a working network connection using wifi?10:03
scientesPetskull, gedit /usr/bin/firefox10:03
BhaumikTaek, because we dont want to use whole netwrok access10:04
scientesPetskull, that type of "hacking up the mainframe" is pretty common10:04
brtrndbekks i think not: the menu item shows the checked option "activate network" but does not show any wirelss network10:04
XabsterI have made a keyboard shortcut with ctrl+alt+e to open Files. When I do it opens a new un-showable window that says "Opening xabster..." in processbar and also my home directory in nautilus - it takes atleast 10 seconds for the first window to dissappear and my mouse cursor is "loading" meanwhile - it's annoying but not a problem but I'd like a fix - anyone?10:04
BhaumikTaek, we are using Proxy server thats why..10:04
TaekDont think that is possible10:04
BlueDongleKeyis there some source code that I could check out regarding linux memory management?10:04
bekksBlueDongleKey: The kernel has it :)10:05
Taek:D10:05
TaekNot kewl to be here on android lol10:06
BlueDongleKeybekks: would kernel.org be the place to download it?10:06
scientesBlueDongleKey, git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git10:06
bekksBlueDongleKey: you could just use apt-get source10:06
bekksscientes: Unhelpful to download 1.6GB git, instead of a few MB tarball.10:07
TaekAgreed, bekks.10:07
scientesok, start with apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` BlueDongleKey10:08
BlueDongleKeythanks friends :)10:08
scientesBlueDongleKey, or the kernel.org xz tarballs10:08
bekksor the gz or bz2 tarballs.10:09
scientesyuck, go with xz10:09
scientesway fater10:09
scientes*faster10:09
bekksFaster than your git approach. :)10:10
brtrndbekks it does work with a cable, so i probably disabled the wireless. is there some way to reset it to defaults?10:10
TaekOn fast enough connections, it wont matter10:10
alusionHello I was wondering if compiz has any complaints with the gnome 3 shell10:10
bekksbrtrnd: No. Just configure what you need.10:10
Bhaumikis there any possibility to create repository using UBUNTU DVD?10:10
scientesbekks, yeah, but git has so many other benifits :P10:11
TaekTechnucally the dvd is a local repo10:11
Bhaumiki already tried "apt-cdrom" command10:11
bekksscientes: Which arent important at this point.10:11
scientesbekks, the FIRST thing i almost always do with a source tree is git init; git commit -a -m init10:11
paulus68how can I let tail search for words in a logfile?10:12
BhaumikTaek, i know that but how can i access this repository for internal use10:12
bekksscientes: Which is unhelpful and unnecessary at this point.10:12
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bekksJust compare 1.6GB and ~70MB downloadsize.10:12
TaekNot surw how to access the dvd as repo10:13
scientesbekks, even 70MB is huge compared to just browsing the cgit or github ....10:14
TaekId check for you, hut i am on my cellphone10:14
Bhaumikany one knows how to access Ubuntu DVD as a repository?10:14
brtrndbekks should i see a network called wlan0 if i do ifconfig? (only  have eth0 and lo)10:14
bekksscientes: You have to pull 1.6GB of data for the kernel.org git repo. So your approach isnt the best thing in the world to just get the sources.10:14
bekksbrtrnd: Not necessarily. USe a pastebin to provide the output of sudo ifconfig -a10:15
BhaumikTaek, thanks10:15
TaekBrtrnd do - ifup wlan010:15
scientesbekks, there almost should be an option to pull starting from a specific signed tag10:15
bekksTaek: No. First check, wether there is a wlan0 at all.10:16
bekksTaek: It may be named differently.10:16
bekksOr it may not exist.10:16
* scientes thinks tags also sign the contents independant of the history, is not sure10:16
TaekBtw for tail in log files, tail -n 20 ¦ grep word10:16
scienteswith a -f too10:16
scientesis nice10:16
brtrndbekks http://pastebin.com/xX76NS6110:16
brtrnd(its a spanish pc)10:17
bekksTaek: Thats nonsense too, if "word" is not in the last 20 lines.10:17
TaekJust a sample hahaha10:17
TaekBekks i am on mobile, so i try to keep responces to a short and quick one10:18
Bragex9my system has suddenly started to act strange..... software such as firefox, mediaplayer etc etc can suddenly just shut down. Then I have to restart the software again. And after a few minutes the same happens again.... any idea what might cause the problem?10:18
jacekowskihi10:18
bekksbrtrnd: You dont have a wlan interface at all. You have to set it up first.10:19
jacekowskii've got a laptop with windows on it and no cd/memory stick/any other kind of storage at hand10:19
brtrndbekks any guide/link on doing that?10:19
DropsOfSerenityBragex9, try running those programs from the terminal when just using them normally, and then see what the terminal out is when it crashes, alternatively you can look for logs for those specific programs10:19
jacekowskiis there any way of installing ubuntu onto separate partition10:19
jacekowski(not using wubi and it's loop partition)10:19
DropsOfSerenityBragex9, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_crashes10:19
TaekBragex9 lack of sleep can cause that. Jk10:20
paulus68with grep what is the command to show multiple words for example I want to search in a file for the word user and denied what would the syntax be?10:20
DropsOfSerenityBragex9, check out the Crash reports section of that link10:20
Bragex9ok. thanks. I will try that10:20
bekksbrtrnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/10:20
TaekMan grep10:20
bekkspaulus68: "man grep" :) or egrep - grep "this|that" filename10:21
Taek!grep10:21
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:21
aabedwhere can i ask about the packages that will be released with 12.0410:21
d[-_-]bHello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle10:22
TaekTail -n 100 ¦ grep -v grep ¦ egrep n grep "this¦that" filename10:23
TaekDamn messed it up lol10:23
paulus68bekks: thanks10:26
Hiob10hiobhi, i have a mbp 5,5 and it gets so hot on ubuntu, how can i fix this?10:26
bekksTaek: USeless use of tail, grep and egrep ;)10:26
bekksHiob10hiob: Whats an "mbp 5,5"?10:27
Hiob10hiobmac book pro 13" late 200910:27
DropsOfSerenityHiob10hiob, had a macbook pro 5,5 theres not much you can do, the best is get cpufreq-indicator and change your cpu to a powersaving sceme.10:27
paulus68Taek: the purpose is that I can read through the complete access.log and that I get the info about a given user with the websites that he tried to access10:27
ArnoldHello everyone. Which is the channel where I can discuss about compiling a certain package?10:27
DropsOfSerenityHiob10hiob, it's just a hot machine by nature10:27
DropsOfSerenityHiob10hiob, also consider external cooling.10:28
TaekIf you know the ip, just search that10:28
Hiob10hiobbut in mac os x its not that hot10:28
TaekUnless the access log isnt logging the ips10:29
paulus68Taek: just the websites in the file10:30
TaekI would use sed instead10:31
jasonfehi10:31
jasonfesorry, but how to mount crypted folder from extern hdd in ubuntu 11.10?!?folder is crypted with ecryptfs10:32
jasonfetnx :)10:32
paulus68Taek you getting me warm to use grep and now you are going to sed :p not afraid to learn but this old chap needs a break here lol so throw it at me what would the command be when I need to have all the entries that contains user and denied10:32
TaekJust a sec then paulus6810:33
paulus68Taek: thx10:33
moondiamondHiob10hiob: I always assumed that the machine ran hotter because the drivers/settings/whatever were not optimally set for the macbook like they would be in os x, but as people say YMMV10:34
bekkspaulus68: What do you want to do?10:34
Hiob10hiobmoondiamond: you must be right, i think i have to replace it ;)10:35
paulus68bekks: from the given access.log I want to get the username and the word denied in order to know what type of website this user wanted to access without my permission10:35
bekkspaulus68: So why do you want sed then?10:36
DropsOfSerenityHiob10hiob, system76.com :P10:36
TaekPaulus68: sed 's/\(hostname 10.0.1.100\)/\hostname 10.0.2.200/g' | grep hostname10:36
Hiob10hiobcan i order it in germany?10:36
TaekHostname and ip can be changef10:36
bekkspaulus68: Provide a single line of your access.log and provide the wanted output you want to have10:36
paulus68bekks: Teak was proposing this to me I am trying to get used to the grep command10:36
paulus68bekks: ok hold on10:36
bobweaverHello there does anyone know how to get JUST the ipadderss from the terminal ?10:37
bekksbobweaver: ifconfig and grep and awk.10:37
bekksOr just ifconfig and awk10:37
TaekIfconfig eth0 ¦ grep ipaddress10:37
bobweaverwhat if user is not on eth0 ?10:38
bekksbobweaver: Then replace eth010:38
TaekChange it according10:38
bobweaverbut whta if this is a script ?10:38
TaekThen use awk10:38
bobweaverdo a if statement ?10:38
bekksNo if needed.10:38
TaekAre yoy doing a oerl script?10:39
TaekPerl that is10:39
bobweaverno bash10:39
TaekSomething like this10:40
paulus681333615347.579   5436 87.65.37.191 TCP_MISS/200 2402 CONNECT ebankingsupport.ibs6.isabel.be:443 user DIRECT/195.35.111.196 -10:40
paulus681333615359.736      0 87.65.37.191 TCP_DENIED/407 1699 GET http://www.isabel.eu/login6/nl-BE/ - NONE/- text/html10:40
Taek$ip=ifconfig wlan0 ¦ grep ipaddress10:40
TaekPrint $ip10:40
bekksTaek: Thats not bash.10:41
TaekYour right10:41
paulus68bekks: where before the DIRECT the username is mentioned10:41
TaekMy bad10:41
TaekLetting php get the better of me10:41
TaekOr perl for that matter10:42
bobweaverok so I have this zpanel@zpanel:~/ZpanelX/etc/build/config_packs/ubuntu_11_10$ ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v 127.0.0.1| head -n 1|10:42
bobweaverbut how to cut to a delimiter of :10:42
bekksbobweaver: By using "tr".10:42
bobweaversorry   ::   ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v 127.0.0.1| head -n 1|10:42
slashdothemm10:42
TaekRemove -v10:42
TaekNvm10:43
TaekKeep that10:43
b1nrbobweaver: probably you  should check these in #bash instead of #ubuntu10:43
bobweaverwill do10:43
bobweaverthanks everyone !10:43
TaekShould i install ubuntu to my mobile.. hmm10:43
Ben64my ubuntu 10.04 system randomly started having some desktop effects (window shadows, weird effect on taskbar launcher click), how can i disable them?10:44
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bekksbobweaver: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"10:44
bekksbobweaver: ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'10:44
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lpeanyone seen this before? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4645273#post464527310:45
DropsOfSerenityBen64, If I remember correctly, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> visual effects -> none10:46
paulus68bekks: me watching and learning :)10:46
Ben64DropsOfSerenity: that's already off10:46
bobweaverbekks,  ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v 127.0.0.1 |  head -n 110:46
bobweaver:>)10:46
io!effects > Ben6410:47
ubottuBen64, please see my private message10:47
aLeSDhi all10:47
ioaLeSD: hi10:47
DropsOfSerenityBen64, you can install compizsettingsmanager, ccsm if I remember, and check the settings there.10:47
aLeSDmy system goes very laggy sometimes10:47
Ben64io, DropsOfSerenity: compiz isn't running10:47
bekksbobweaver: you dont need the head -n 110:47
aLeSDmainly when I am using eclipse10:47
ioBen64: what version of Ubuntu?10:47
bekksbobweaver: use this: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"10:47
Ben6410.0410:47
paulus68bekks: any sugestions concerning my little problem ;)10:47
DropsOfSerenityBen64, you said you are getting compiz effects though?10:47
TaekEclipes = java = horrid10:47
ioBen64: what environment are you using, then?10:48
Ben64some kind of effects, but not compiz10:48
aLeSDdoes ubuntu use officila sun jdk ?10:48
Ben64normal gnome10:48
io!java | aLeSD10:48
ubottuaLeSD: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.10:48
bobweaverbekks,  I am using as a out varible like     ipadress=$( ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v 127.0.0.1 |  head -n 1)      so it have to be just the nip no other nothing10:48
aLeSDthanks io10:48
Ben64ok, i found the problem... somehow "compositing manager" got checked in gconf-editor10:48
bekksbobweaver: Read what I wrote to times to you.10:48
Ben64i guess metacity has a compositor10:49
DropsOfSerenityBen64, it's probably in the startup programs, check in there10:49
Taek+Karma¦bekks10:49
ioaLeSD: no problem10:49
TaekDang hospital connection10:50
aLeSDio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(mythology)10:50
bobweaverbekks,  lol hostname -I10:50
ioaLeSD: I'm io, not Io - also offtopic for this channel10:50
bobweaverfaceplam10:50
Taek+Karma¦io10:51
paulus68bobweaver: LOL10:51
bekksbobweaver: Note that this works only if the host name  can  be  resolved.10:52
ArnoldHello. In which channel I can discuss about compiling/packaging from the source code?10:52
bekksDont rely on that, but read the man page for hostname, and see the -i option.10:52
bobweavergood point thanks bekks10:52
ioArnold: if it's related to Ubuntu, here or any of the #ubuntu-* channels, also there's ##linux10:53
ioArnold: #ubuntu-packaging for packing questions/chatter10:53
ios/packing/packaging10:54
s0u][ighthello, how do I start a second instance of unity10:54
s0u][ight?10:54
Bhaumiki tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?10:54
ArnoldWell, I downloaded the Pidgin sources using "apt-get source pidgin" and I also noticed it applied certain patches while at it.10:54
ArnoldBut after that, when I'm running "./configure", it runs it as if the configure.ac file was never modified/patched.10:55
BhaumikTaek, i tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?10:55
io!repeat | Bhaumik10:55
ubottuBhaumik: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:55
TaekIt stucked your system?10:55
Bhaumikyus10:56
Bhaumikyes10:56
Bhaumikubottu, ok10:56
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:56
s0u][ightwhen i do "sudo startx -- :1 vt8" i get "no protocol specified"10:56
ioArnold: I see, they have their own channel over in #pidgin - you might want to enquire there10:56
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ArnoldThanks io, I've tried to apply the patch on the actual non-patched source code package of theirs and the configure file still didn't react to it. I'll ask them about it.10:57
TaekBhaumik what to you mean by stucked?10:57
ioTaek: I think the technical term he's looking for is 'frozen'10:57
BhaumikTaek, it means that its not going forward10:58
TaekIf the hdd or dvd light is flshing, have no fear, you are just over working the processor/ram10:59
Bragex9is there a way to do a memory test from terminal?10:59
TaekWell at least thats onw possibilty11:00
Taek1*11:00
paulus68bekks: any thoughts?11:00
Bhaumikmeans?11:00
TaekAre lights blinking?11:01
bekkspaulus68: http://austinmatzko.com/2008/04/26/sed-multi-line-search-and-replace/11:01
Bhaumikyes11:01
TaekSTILL "STUCKED" ?11:01
TaekWhoops, caps11:02
TaekCant disable caps on cellphones.. so sad11:02
Bhaumikall things working properly in system but when i started "apt-mirror" its not downloading all packages & my system will going down11:02
TaekWhat cmd you used?11:03
Bhaumikapt-mirror11:03
TaekDid you specify location to save?11:03
Bhaumikno11:03
bekksBhaumik: apt-mirror --help11:04
paulus68bekks: thanks11:04
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TaekAbout them A's11:06
TaekJk11:06
Bhaumikok i'll try11:06
NiBiHi , I need help with ubuntu to ubuntu sharing , it answer with "required packages are not installed" can you help me which packages I need ?11:08
TaekI like this cmd scp /path/to/file.ext username@yourdomain.tld:/path/to/dest/folder11:09
NiBiI already install samba and samba_lib or something like that11:09
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TaekSudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install11:10
TaekTo get left out packagrs11:10
mkhey guys11:10
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bekksTaek: Please stop providing things that might break a system.11:10
bekksLeft out packages always have a good reason for being left out.11:11
Kaspimouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)11:11
TaekI was going to argue that, but not from a mobile.11:13
NiBican someone help me with that sharing ?11:15
ioNiBi: yes, Taek already answered your question - please look up11:16
BhaumikTaek, i tried but its showing like " apt-mirror is already running, exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187."11:17
NiBiI dont trust "Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install" this command11:17
Kaspimouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)11:17
ioNiBi: your choice11:17
TaekWhy nibi?11:17
TaekBecause bekks said somthing?11:18
NiBiI set that command to terminal and it installed nothing :/11:18
TaekThen you have no missing depencies11:19
Bhaumikno11:19
TaekYou provlem is else where11:19
ioNiBi: what did you type?11:19
NiBi"Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install"11:20
TaekDamn wifu11:20
NiBiwhich part of this comman is knowing about packages what i need ?11:20
ioNiBi: you need to specify what package you want to install, obviously11:21
Taek-f install grabs whatever deb packagrs need11:21
TaekIf smbd needs a package it will grab it11:22
NiBipersonal sharing answers that i need packages to enable sharing I have installed samba and still doesnt work11:22
TaekDid you start it?11:22
bekksBefore starting, did you configure it?11:23
TaekThat too11:23
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Taek+karma¦bekks11:23
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bekksTaek: Would you mind to stop that karma foobar pleas? :)11:23
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TaekYou dont like karma?11:24
TaekBtw yes ill stop11:24
imyousufHi11:25
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TaekHi11:25
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imyousufI have added port forwarding rule to my /etc/ufw/before.rules as *nat \n :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] \n -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.54:22 \n COMMIT11:26
imyousufI have also done ufw allow from any to any port 768911:26
imyousufbut if I have ufw enabled then port forwarding gets timed out11:26
imyousufwhereas if I disable ufw the portforwading works just fine11:27
imyousufwhat am I missing here?11:27
TaekI dont jnow ufw sorry11:27
TaekKbow*11:27
Taek!ufw11:27
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.11:27
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notk0hello, how can I escape folders that contain spaces for usage in the terminal?11:28
mcb_1notk0: You can use "Folder with Space"  or you can scape the space character as: Folder\ with\ space11:29
notk0mcb_1, thank you, I'll try that11:29
NiBiI opened network there is folder windows network , there I see that LINUX computer where I need to get in and it answer with "cannot mount windows network"11:30
notk0mcb_1, thank you, that worked11:31
mrhihi11:31
TaekNibi, sounds like you havr no netwirk shares on windows11:31
mrhihum11:32
mcb_1 imyousuf: I dont know ufw commands syntax, but the iptables rule should look like this: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.54:2211:32
mrhi한국사람은 없나11:32
mcb_1notk0: You are welcome.11:32
NiBiI want to get to that linux computer shared files11:32
TaekIn windows vista/7 workgroup11:32
NiBiIm sure there is shared file11:33
imyousufmcb_1: that is there in before.rules11:33
TaekYou configured samba to share a folder?11:33
mrhiexit11:33
imyousufI need to know if before.rules the ideal place to put it?11:33
NiBiI set share folder , and sharing options to allow all ... if you mean that or how to configure samba for sharing ?11:34
Kaspiwhere to find the "wmwgfx" package?11:34
bluebirdcan i ask  a kubuntu doubt here?11:34
notk0hello again, there is a command for the x server that can disable for keys to not be repeated when a key is being held (as in when a key is pressed for key released and pressed signals to not be generated) does anyone know that command?11:35
notk0nevermind , it's xset found it in the history of my terminal commands11:36
mcb_1imyousuf:  Does ufw ruling has the same syntax as iptables? If so, you missed the -t nat part. Thats all that wanted to point to you.11:37
imyousufthat is given as *nat mcb_111:37
Kaspiwhere to find the "wmwgfx" package?11:38
mcb_1imyousuf:  But ufw will use iptables. Doesn it? You can always do iptables -t nat -L and pipe it to file to see how your rules are. maybe it can point to the right direction.11:38
imyousufhmm let me check11:39
bastidrazor /w 311:47
ZengerHi guys, I have problem and I'm trying to solve it the whole day. I'm stuck in low res at 1024x768, I have  17" monitor capable of 1280x1024. I have installed the nvidia drivers , the nouveau didn't work. Here are the logs of  lspci, glxinfo, xrandr http://pastebin.com/JKcsEVtT if someone could give me a hint how could I set a higher res I would be gratefull .11:49
localpc4every once in a while my servers finger print changes and i get access denied for ssh11:49
ZengerI think it's a problem of the monitor. But I am so out of ideeas I don't even  know what to do :(11:50
yeatslocalpc4: are you the only administrator of that server?11:50
arc_amitHello,Can someone please tell me...How to know the maximum RTO in ubuntu 11?11:50
localpc4yeats: yes,11:50
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localpc4yeats: not sure if this has to do with the capistrano tool that I am using or its just that something is wrong with my sshd11:51
yeatslocalpc4: do you reinstall Ubuntu periodically?11:51
localpc4this was a new installtaion11:51
* yeats is not familiar with capistrano11:51
localpc4but i cant ssh now:(11:52
localpc4i have to keep manually deleting the host from known_hosts11:52
localpc4to accept the finger print again11:52
localpc4now i get Write Failed : Broken pipe11:52
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geraldhIs it possible to delay the lock screen after the screensaver starts? Does someone how I can configure that?11:53
yeatslocalpc4: once you get access again, you should check your server logs11:53
localpc4yeats: i have physical access to the server as well, i will see the logs now11:54
yeatslocalpc4: the key fingerprint doesn't "just change" - something is causing that to happen11:54
localpc4yeats: is the log in syslog?11:55
yeatslocalpc4: I would start there, then check auth.log and maybe daemon.log11:56
* yeats has to go away11:56
yeatslocalpc4: good luck11:56
localpc4thanks 4 help11:56
ron__Can anyone help with Apache? it recently stopped parsing php on virtual hosts for no apparent reason..11:58
icerootron__: #httpd may help11:58
ikoniaron__: what does the access and error log show ?11:58
InBarhi all, is the notes sync service always available ?11:58
ron__it shows nothing.. it isnt throwing up any errors it simply decided to stop parsing php on anything other than the default host11:59
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fayimoraA friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?11:59
ron__ikonia: there are no errors in the error log beyond normal 405 errors etc.12:04
MarKsaitishow do I upgrade 11.04 64bit to the newest 12 LTS?12:06
icerootMarKsaitis: #ubuntu+112:06
icerootMarKsaitis: and 12.04 is still beta12:06
MarKsaitisyeah, but it will not be beta in few weeks12:06
icerootMarKsaitis: doesnt matter12:07
icerootMarKsaitis: its beta and not supported here and things may break12:07
ron__iceroot: what do you mean by httpd. the server or the black conf file apache has?12:07
ron__blank*12:08
icerootron__: the irc-apache channel #httpd12:08
AndyUbuntuhey everyone12:08
ron__ok, thanks..12:08
AndyUbuntuim just wondering if updating to 12.04 will be stable yet12:08
icerootAndyUbuntu: no12:08
MarKsaitiscan somebody please recommend me a nice tidy lighweight desktop environment?12:08
ron__Do so at your own peril12:09
icerootMarKsaitis: lxde (lubuntu-desktop)12:09
kantlivelongAndyUbuntu: i wouldnt...12:09
AndyUbuntuiceroot, ok thanks. So its worth waiting till the end of the month12:09
MarKsaitisiceroot, top one, thanx12:09
AndyUbuntuexcellent12:09
icerootAndyUbuntu: maybe even longer12:09
AndyUbuntuthanks for letting me know12:09
icerootAndyUbuntu: not a good idea to upgrade on release-day12:09
AndyUbuntuohh really, is the release date being pushed back12:09
icerootAndyUbuntu: no12:09
AndyUbuntuyeah true12:10
icerootAndyUbuntu: but the repos will die12:10
AndyUbuntuyeah true, always find that12:10
Guest43386somebody could help me ?12:10
AndyUbuntu12.04 looks pretty good soo looking foward to the release12:10
Kaspiguys, how can I install the vmwgfx module?12:12
geraldhI found the gconf /app/gnome-screensaver/lock_delay setting, is it possible to set that in seconds instead of minutes? I would like a delay of say 5 seconds. In that way I can have a "hot corner" that activates the screensaver, but doesn't lock the pc by accident if I hit it.12:12
sent!ask | Guest4338612:13
ubottuGuest43386: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:13
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iCoffeesent:12:13
iCoffeei can't open grub customizer12:13
aarishhi call i need some autoamtion solution for medical and health care can you help me12:14
iCoffeewhen it finishes loading it closes12:15
Kaspihow can I install the vmwgfx module?12:16
kapzok I am trying to share my printer connected to ubuntu with windows 7 over LAN through cups-IPP...log shows the below message, what does it mean and how can I resolve it?12:16
kapzReturning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost12:16
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zxiestHello :-)12:20
zxiestI'm running ubuntu in virtual box and everything was fine. I updated yesterday and my displays are now broken (using two monitors)12:21
zxiestThe resolution that used to fit isn't there anymore12:21
zxiestWhat can I do?12:21
ron_lthe #httpd channel wont let me chat.12:21
Kaspihow can I install the vmwgfx module?12:21
fidelron_l: invite only? voice only?12:21
fidelanyways - not related with this chan ;)12:22
rogstzxiest: reinstall the virtualbox guest tools12:22
ioron_l: register a nickname. also this is offtopic for this channel, ask in #freenode12:22
ron_lsomeone told me to go there erlier for help with apache, but since it's not workign even after just registering..12:22
Kaspijesus, I hate such low level errors12:22
zxiestrogst I tried reinstalling virtualbox altogether.. Are the guest tools included?12:22
rogstzxiest: the guest tools inside the virual machine12:23
zxiestrogst alright cool, will try that :-) Thanks :-)12:23
ioron_l: you haven't completed registration verification - please ask in #freenode12:23
parentasurabaya12:24
rogstzxiest: I think you have updated the kernel and then the virtualboc guest tools need to be recompiled for the new kernel version12:24
ron_loh i see.. my bad12:24
zxiestrogst makes sense.. Will try reinstalling and will let you know if this works out :-)12:24
sent!id | parenta12:25
ubottuparenta: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia12:25
parentaok12:25
fidelparenta: or stay inhere & keep it english ;)12:25
Kaspihow can I install the vmwgfx module? is there any repository containing it?12:26
roastedQuestion - am I correct by understanding that a kernel regression is where changes are made that break supported devices and/or trimming of kernel fat that may end up being needed?12:26
wondermanHi, can someone tell me how to manually set my DNS servers in ubuntu12:27
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wondermanso that a DNS leak will not reveal ym local DNS12:27
fidelwonderman: /etc/resolv.conf12:27
wondermanok, thats a local DNS, i just remove that and add another DNS provider?12:28
rogstKaspi: you can install apt-file, and then run apt-file search vmwgfx to find packages that contains a file named that12:28
parentadimana ubottu?12:28
fidelfile can contains > 1 bnameserver entries12:28
fidelparenta: ubottu is a bot12:29
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rogstroasted: yes, that is a correct description of a regression bug12:30
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roastedrogst: I see. I was doing some reading about Alps touchpads, evidently a lot of them were broken in 11.04 and 11.10 when they worked relatively well in 10.10. Some people were explaining it as a kernel regression and I kind of drew a blank.12:31
MarKsaitiswhat vpn daemon package can you recommend to me? something with encryption and sessions. iceroot12:31
MarKsaitisan interesting one *** lubuntu-desktop : Depends: gecko-mediaplayer but it is not installable12:31
roastedrogst: I wouldn't expect something like that to get "regressed" and even for the 2nd release (11.10) it still be unfixed. Looks like 12.04 is more promising (as well as a .deb for 11.04 and 11.10)12:32
icerootMarKsaitis: openvpn12:32
iceroot!vpn | MarKsaitis12:32
ubottuMarKsaitis: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN12:32
MarKsaitisI know what openvpn is and am already using it on 5 production servers12:32
icerootMarKsaitis: for the lubuntu-problem. what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"12:32
iceroot!paste | MarKsaitis12:32
ubottuMarKsaitis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:32
MarKsaitisiceroot, in my question I ment vnc, sorry I misspeled it12:32
icerootMarKsaitis: i am not using vnc so i dont know12:33
iceroot!vnc | MarKsaitis12:33
ubottuMarKsaitis: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:33
MarKsaitisiceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915944/12:34
StepNjumpHow well does gnome2 work in Oneiric?12:35
fidelStepNjump: is it any helpful if i answer 'well' now? ;)12:35
pluzHi peoples12:36
StepNjump_fidel... lol sarcastic?12:37
MarKsaitisI thought I have a stable 11.04 all upgraded etc. But that lubuntu-desktop thing just doesn't install for me12:37
StepNjumpfidel: well in well or well in .. well, ...?12:37
ioMarKsaitis: more details12:37
MarKsaitisio,12:38
MarKsaitishttp://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z12:38
bekksMarKsaitis: The complete output of "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" please.12:38
fidelStepNjump: i doubt the core question is detailed enough - so its interesting my answer wasnt detailed enough for you either ;) I am using gnome2 here in a vm on 11.10 - and havent realized any issues so far12:38
MarKsaitishere it is http://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z :)12:38
fidelbut asking for "best" or "how well" usualy isnt that helpful in general ...just my impression12:39
bekksMarKsaitis: and the output of "sudo apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer" in a pastebin :)12:39
StepNjumpfidel: well, I heard 11.10 deoesn't ship with Gnome but with Unity, so I guess one has to do a few fiddlings in order to get it to work?12:39
ioMarKsaitis: '$ apt-get -f install'?12:39
bekksio: No.12:39
StepNjumpI am reluctant to upgrade cuz I can't stand Unity fidel12:40
fidelStepNjump: you might need to install additional packages yes12:40
iobekks: if I was speaking to you, your nickname would be at the start of the sentance12:40
fidelie. gnome-shell for gnome312:40
pluzsomeone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?12:40
fidelor gnome-panel iirc for the old one12:40
MarKsaitisbekks, http://pastebin.com/h2mMtT9112:40
fidelbut both is pretty good documented in the web/blogs/etc12:40
bekksio: If you dont like people to correct obvious error, please just say so.12:41
fidelStepNjump: there is really no reason to not update the core-distri you are using only cause you dislike the default-window-environment12:41
dv_hello12:41
dv_i am interested in how a package was built12:41
rogstStepNjump: have you tired Unity without the global appmenu-bar and without the overlay scrollbars, after those two components are uninstalled I find Unity realy nice12:41
dv_especially the ./configure line that was used12:41
dv_is it documented somewhere?12:41
StepNjumpfidel, ok... I'm not a power user yet but ok, if it's feasible.. Thanks!12:42
sanjeev_shhow can i install a newer version of already installed package?12:42
iosanjeev_sh: upgrade if it's in the repositories12:42
StepNjumprogst: would you have detailed instructions on how to do this please?12:42
StepNjumpthanks fidel12:42
fidelsanjeev_sh: you should start first by checking what versions your apt sources provide/offer12:42
fidelsanjeev_sh: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME might be helpful here12:43
iosanjeev_sh: what package and what version of Ubuntu?12:43
sanjeev_shio: ubuntu 11.04 and i want to install gcc4.712:43
zxiestrogst reinstalling guest extensions worked out pretty well! Thank you very much :-)12:43
MarKsaitisbekks, any ideas? As it makes no sense to me. The system is fully updated and upgraded12:44
pluzHi people (again)..   someone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?12:44
Kaspimy mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?12:44
rogstzxiest: your welcome12:44
zxiestrogst :-)12:44
zxiestHave a wonderful day guys .. Later :-)12:45
sipiorpluz: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/faq.aspx (sorry.)12:45
MarKsaitis:)12:45
luc4Hi! Anyone experiencing crash of various applications recently?12:45
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fidelluc4: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html12:46
bekksMarKsaitis: Then fire up "sudo apt-get update" please and provide the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin12:46
rogstStepNjump: to remove the global menu sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu12:46
iosanjeev_sh: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69135/is-there-a-ppa-for-gcc4-712:47
StepNjumpAnother stupid question: Why is it when I try to install thunderbird on Natty, it installs version 3 instead of version 11? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/install-thunderbird-11-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/12:47
MarKsaitisbekks, will do, thank you12:47
StepNjumpoh very good rogst thank you very much. I will take a note of that for when I install oneiric12:47
luc4fidel: no need to ask with details, this is something you notice. Many applications are segfaulting. Qt Creator, Firefox etc... many times during the day. Since yesterday I think.12:47
rogstStepNjump: to remove overlay scrollbars sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-012:47
StepNjumpthanks fer your help rogst12:47
luc4fidel: and I'm not the only one with this problem.12:48
* sanjeev_sh clicks on io's link12:48
MarKsaitishttp://pastebin.com/XRxjij2Y bekks12:48
fidelluc4: it still helps to throw in a more detailed question - which results in not-guessing what in detail you are thinking about ;)12:49
ioStepNjump: because the repositories for natty contain version 3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/thunderbird12:49
fidelno offense ;)12:49
iostephane_yaal: 11 is present in oneiric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/thunderbird12:49
ioStepNjump: ^12:49
mkfsu235Hi, I have a virtual server with oneiric running. So i default posfix install as internet site gets me a nice open relay. tried blocking 25 with ufw but i can still telnet in via anywhere.12:50
bekksMarKsaitis: Could you pastebin "sudo apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer" too?12:50
bekksmkfsu235: Then stop the postfix service12:50
bekksmkfsu235: And configure it :)12:50
StepNjumpio: ok thanks so the only other way to install Thunderbird 11 under Natty is by installing it from the tar.gz archive?12:50
mkfsu235why can't i just block the port ?12:51
MarKsaitisbekks,12:51
MarKsaitishttp://pastebin.com/kbebBHdv12:51
bekksMarKsaitis: Thats not much :)12:51
ioStepNjump: or use the ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable !ppa12:51
luc4fidel: no offense at all. The problem is that I don't have more details. I tried to strace an application but I don't see anything useful. Applications are simply segfaulting randomly. I experienced this mostly with Firefox and Qt Creator because those are the applications I use the most. Also the Qt Creator installer couldn't finish the installation at all. I tried to downgrade mesa-related libs but that didn't solve.12:51
io!ppa | StepNjump12:51
ubottuStepNjump: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:51
MarKsaitisbekks, anything else I can post?12:52
StepNjumpoh thanks io.. learned something new!12:52
StepNjumpI'll give it a shot12:52
ioStepNjump: good luck12:52
StepNjumpIll let u knw io12:53
Kaspimy mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?12:53
Xabsterplug it in12:54
Dr_willisKaspi,  try it at the console perhaps. install 'gpm' and see if it moves around there..12:54
rogstKaspi: did it move before?12:54
Dr_willisunplug/plug it back in would be a good thing to try also.12:54
KaspiDr_willis: what's gpm?12:54
Dr_willis!info gpm12:54
ubottugpm (source: gpm): General Purpose Mouse interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.4-3.4ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 205 kB, installed size 580 kB12:54
Kaspirogst: it did...12:54
Dr_willisgpm = gives mouse at the console.12:55
Kaspirogst: it actually still does, in another system12:55
rogstKaspi: you could try "sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse"12:56
Kaspirogst: well, no success :/12:57
Dr_willisthis is a ps2 mouse?12:58
MarKsaitiscan anyone please help me to install lxde? This is what I get http://pastebin.com/dpfbLsNG12:58
KaspiI just installed lubuntu and it just doesn't work, this has never happened to me :/12:58
CFHowlettKaspi   "doesn't work" means???12:58
ikoniaMarKsaitis: looks like your repos are messed up12:58
KaspiCFHowlett: it doesn't move12:59
Kaspi(the cursor)12:59
Dr_willisKaspi, it did work on the live cd/installer?12:59
MarKsaitisikonia, how can it be? It's a fresh distro. How can I default my repos?12:59
KaspiDr_willis: I installed it using console, so I don't know (net install)12:59
ikoniaMarKsaitis: it won't change if you "default" your repos, it looks like you've got package conflicts12:59
ikoniaMarKsaitis: do "sudo apt-get update" first, then re-try it12:59
icerootMarKsaitis: output of apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer12:59
MarKsaitisok12:59
ikoniaMarKsaitis: it won't work - but it's worth checking13:00
Kaspithe mouse buttons seem to work though... just the pointer doesn't move13:00
ikoniaMarKsaitis: I suspect your virtual provider has made a bastardised Ubuntu build as is often the case and is pointing at the wrong repos13:00
localpc4i cant even ssh into my localhost, getting permission denied! wired!13:01
neurotechDoes anyone know if it's possible to use a different terminal than Powershell/Command Prompt in Windows?13:01
MarKsaitisikonia, iceroot http://pastebin.com/38tJrQ6G13:01
icerootneurotech: ##windows13:01
neurotechthanks13:01
MarKsaitisand how can we fix that ikonia13:01
iceroot!info gecko-mediaplayer13:02
localpc4neurotech: http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/13:02
ubottugecko-mediaplayer (source: gecko-mediaplayer): Multimedia plug-in for Gecko browsers. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.4-2ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 220 kB, installed size 748 kB13:02
ikoniaiceroot: natty....lubuntu didn't exist then13:02
icerootikonia: ah yes13:02
ikoniaiceroot: just clicked13:02
ikoniaalthough why is "lubuntu-desktop" there13:02
icerootikonia: it was the first unofficial release imo13:02
icerootikonia: like in 11.10 is wayland :)13:03
iceroot!info gecko-mediaplayer natty13:03
ubottugecko-mediaplayer (source: gecko-mediaplayer): Multimedia plug-in for Gecko browsers. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 195 kB, installed size 676 kB13:03
ikonia!info lubuntu-desktop natty13:03
ubottulubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.24 (natty), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc ia64 sparc lpia armel)13:03
Kaspiomg13:03
icerootikonia: the player exist in 11.0413:03
MarKsaitisso in 11.04, I have unoficial release of lubuntu? I thought 11.04 is all stable as everybody said?13:03
ikoniaiceroot: yup13:03
ikoniaMarKsaitis: no, that's not what we are saying13:04
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icerootikonia: i dont get why apt-get policy does not show it in his release13:04
vikasphi13:04
icerootikonia: ah13:04
icerootikonia: multiverse13:04
icerootMarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo13:04
KaspiI found out :D well this should be added to the "Mouse pointer not moving" troubleshooting article on the wiki13:04
ikoniayes, just seen it13:04
iceroot!multiverse | MarKsaitis13:04
ubottuMarKsaitis: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories13:04
MarKsaitisthank you iceroot, your a star. Why does this stuff not work with default repos?13:05
icerootMarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo, run apt-get update and then you can install lubuntu-desktop13:05
bpb_grindawhat is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log13:06
icerootMarKsaitis: because lubuntu was not official released for your release13:06
CFHowlettMarKsaitis   your default distro sets the default repos ...13:06
MarKsaitisIm trying to find out now how to enable it :)13:06
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vikasp:)13:06
bpb_grindawhat is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log ?13:06
vikasp:013:06
icerootMarKsaitis: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put the word multiverse in the line were already main is13:06
nirjhorhow can I rename a directory from "thumbnail" to "thumbs" recursively?13:06
readytest amsg13:06
nirjhor"find -name "*thumbnail*" -exec rename s/thumbnail/thumbs/ {} \;" this works on local but not on server13:06
aarishhi i have problem in my apache server in ubuntu13:06
MarKsaitisiceroot, what do you mean it was? Is 11.04 frozen in time? Are we not talking about today here? :)13:06
icerootMarKsaitis: every release will be frozen13:07
icerootMarKsaitis: only security updates13:07
icerootMarKsaitis: and lxde was at that time when 11.04 was released not an offical ubuntu derivat13:07
icerootMarKsaitis: but you are just missing the multiverse repo13:07
MarKsaitisso if an LTS release is rolling for 5 years, at which stage is it frozen with it's apps?13:08
ikoniaMarKsaitis: before it's released13:08
ikoniaMarKsaitis: it's not a rolling release13:08
zykotick9MarKsaitis: ubuntu is not rolling...13:08
icerootMarKsaitis: 1-2 month before release13:08
MarKsaitishow bizzaire :)))13:08
icerootMarKsaitis: called feature freeze13:09
icerootMarKsaitis: feature freeze for 12.04 was in february13:09
MarKsaitisand that means that you don't get any new software for the next 5 years......13:09
icerootMarKsaitis: you will just get securitys-fixes and bug fixes no new software (there are some exceptions were you will get newer versions)13:09
icerootMarKsaitis: correct13:10
iceroot!backports | MarKsaitis13:10
ubottuMarKsaitis: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging13:10
DaekdroomMarKsaitis, there are some situations in which people do not want new software.13:10
MarKsaitismultiverse in sources.list, do I add this word for each of the three lfirst lines?13:10
DaekdroomIf you do, then you upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release13:10
icerootMarKsaitis: only one line13:10
MarKsaitisso only in naty, but not natty-updates and natty-security?13:11
icerootMarKsaitis: correct13:11
MarKsaitisbut I might want the updates as well? why not?13:11
icerootMarKsaitis: which updates?13:11
icerootmmajor updates? or security updates?13:11
MarKsaitisupdates for the multiverse?13:12
icerootMarKsaitis: you will get them13:12
MarKsaitisoh, ok :)13:12
MarKsaitisthank you, lubuntu-desktop wants 1028 MB. Is that lightweight enough then? :)13:13
icerootMarKsaitis: yes13:13
MarKsaitisand, is lubuntu-desktop much different on 11.04 and 12.04 ?13:13
icerootMarKsaitis: there is also lubuntu-core but i am facing evil bugs with it at the moment so i cant say its a good idea to use lubuntu-core13:13
icerootMarKsaitis: no13:13
christian__why is my ubuntu so slow13:14
christian__firefox is lagging so much13:14
christian__:(13:14
MarKsaitisfirefox is crap :) I like chrome13:14
christian__i dont trust google13:15
MarKsaitisiceroot, how come there is not? I mean they are 2 years of development in difference, no?13:15
christian__i am scared it will sell my soul to the devil :(13:15
localpc4have to agree on that, FF seems to be losing the edge - So I use chromium13:15
MarKsaitisI dont trust google either :)13:15
Elchzardchristian__: tried xubuntu or lubuntu?13:15
icerootMarKsaitis: lxde is not designed to offer the latest fancy stuff13:15
christian__no elchzard only for my netbook13:15
icerootMarKsaitis: just a solid desktop13:16
christian__but i dont use it much13:16
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christian__its crap :>13:16
christian__i regret the day i got that netbook13:16
MarKsaitisiceroot, so lxde on 11.04 is an old version, but all bugs are fixed for it up2date?13:16
christian__^^rather buy a real notebook for the money next time13:16
christian__i also have to say. firefox seems to be a bit more buggy in the past13:16
christian__sometimes FF just don't respond to my input for about a min. after i open for example youtube..13:17
MarKsaitisiceroot, I understand how to do port forwarding over ssh, now what sshd can u recommend to me please so it just install's and runs in the system and serves user sessions?13:18
MarKsaitisfor LXDE ofcourse, or however it all works technically13:18
ikoniawhat ssh ???13:19
MarKsaitisand thank you all for your support, all going good so far13:19
MarKsaitisI ment vnc lol13:19
MarKsaitissorry13:19
christian__btw does anybody know some programming games, where you have to program a small ai for a robot or something like that ? i once played such a game, it was fun13:20
talechristian__:  apt-cache show robocode realtimebattle13:23
christian__thx tale13:23
dohertyIs there a way to force ssh to /not/ use the ControlMaster socket for a new ssh session?13:23
bpb_grindahow do I stop syslog ?13:24
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bpb_grindahow do I stop syslog ?13:25
sacarlsondoherty: you can change the listen port on the server side if desired13:25
dohertysacarlson: that is /a/ solution... O.o13:26
* doherty tries ssh -F /dev/null host13:26
Dr_willisbpb_grinda,  perhaps 'sudo service servicename stop'13:26
Slasher`anyone know how i can tell apt to ignore a broken package please? the package isn't broken, it's required for my printer to work, but apt is moaning about it13:26
MarKsaitisso, can somebody recommend me a good session based vnc daemon for my lxde?13:27
bpb_grindaDr_willis i want to make sure it doesnt start after reboot ?13:27
taleMarKsaitis: Put that package on Hold.13:27
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  ive seen guides on setting up vnc  at boot via xinetd or inetd. not sure what you are looking for .13:27
Dr_willisbpb_grinda,  if its started by a upstart service - rename its .conf file in /etc/init/13:28
Dr_willisbpb_grinda,  not sure what service manager gui tools are out there at this time for upstart13:28
taleSorry Slasher` Put that package on Hold.13:28
Dr_willisIF its managed by upstart13:28
MarKsaitisDr_willis, tale - I only want a simple vnc daemon which can serve desktop interface sessions with my newly installed lxde environment13:28
bpb_grindaDr_willis is this going to work: rc-update del syslog-ng13:29
Slasher`tale - in synaptic?13:29
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  you can set vnc to have hidden desktops. or you can use x11vnc to share the currently running desktop13:29
Dr_willisbpb_grinda,  no idea.  i am not sure if the rc-update stuff works for upstart managed services13:29
MarKsaitisDr_willis, what is a hidden desktop? I dont want to hide anything. i don't want currently running desktop, I wan virtual desktops for each user13:30
sanjeev_shhow can i upgrade to the latest release of ubuntu from a local mirror server?13:30
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  at one time i had vnc setup where i could vnc in and it would spawn a new vnc session each time, giving me the gdm login screen.13:30
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  you have hidden, or currentlyt running.. if its not visiable on the local monitor- then its hidden.13:30
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  so basically you want several users to have their own independant desktop they access via vnc.13:31
Guest21751I would like to update Thunderbird to 11.0.3 in Ubuntu 10.10 as security updates stop on the 24th April. The new Thunderbird is not available from Ubuntu Software Centre. I downloaded Thunderbird but have a folder of files and have no real idea how to proceed. Does anybody know if there are guides for this? If I run the new Thunderbird script it starts the new version and seems to work with...13:31
Guest21751...my old folders will this suffice?13:31
MarKsaitisI don't want any visible stuff. Only virtual as per user. So, one virtual screen for user root and different for user admin, so they can use them at the same time13:31
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  the users could ssh in, run vncserver, then connect to their vnc desktop - that would give them a persistant desktop. which is handy13:31
MarKsaitisDr_willis, yes, independent13:32
hyliansanjeev_sh, local? do you mean you have the cache files stored somewhere?13:32
MarKsaitisDr_willis, I want a persistent desktop for each user, but I want this daemon to always run and provide it for them13:32
Dr_willisvncserver on linux defaults to the way you are mentioning MarKsaitis  - its  all about the fine points of how you want it to be used.13:32
MarKsaitisDr_willis,  which vnc server is that?13:33
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  the demon route last i looked will NOT give them a persistant desktop. vnc will get killed when they exit. sshing in will be persistant. as would starting one by hand for each user from rc.local (but thats a bit of a pain)13:33
sanjeev_shhylian: our university has a private mirror of ubuntu, so i want to upgrade to latest ubuntu version from that mirror13:33
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  any vncserver should work that way. but not x11vnc or other 'share current desktop vnc'  types.13:33
MarKsaitisDr_willis, ok, I dont care about persistency yet then13:34
hylianGuest21751, if you managed to keep your old folders from the /home/user/ directory, and then put them back, you should still have things like your contacts and old emails. you can also use your current thunderibird to export everything, and then after upgrade, use thunderbird to import everything... am i getting close to what you are looking for?13:34
MarKsaitisI wan't just the normal thing then13:34
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site may have some up to date guides on setting this up. last i did it was several years back13:34
MarKsaitisas soon as it works with lxde13:34
MarKsaitisok13:34
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  the guides i saw ages ago gave the users a login screen via gdm. so it worked with whatever you had installed.13:34
Dr_willisthey used xinetd which is a bit outdated these days13:35
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  is this on a local lan only? over internet? what are the users machines running?13:35
Dr_willis'its all about the details' :)13:35
MarKsaitisusers running windows, thats oer ssh port fowards13:36
xr1rrwondered if anyone wanted to fill in a phishing questionnaire for my research project13:36
Slasher`xr1rr; i'll do it13:36
LjLxr1rr: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is not the place13:36
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  you may want to check into 'freenx' also - its supposed to be faster then vnc. but i havent really used it. - I tend to use xming, and X forwarding these days instead of vnc.13:37
MarKsaitisi use freenx and xming for other servers. Want vnc for this one13:37
hyliansanjeev_sh, if you can get to software sources, you can specify a server there. as long as your universities server is listed there, you could use it.13:38
xr1rrSlasher: https://bit.ly/HlOE1T13:38
Slasher`can you pm me the proper link?13:38
hyliansanjeev_sh, you should be able to gain access to the software sources through the ubuntu software center, or if it is installed, synaptic.13:39
sanjeev_shhylian: it is not an official mirror server of ubuntu yet, can i add a custom server there?13:40
Guest21751hylian: Half way there I think. The problem I am having is that I am not sure where to place the new Thunderbird files. I have a single folder on my desktop currently which I extracted after having downloaded from Mozilla. I notice that the Thunderbird files are scattered on the system in their appropriate places. I have no idea if I need to try and replace each file individually with its...13:41
Guest21751...new counterpart or if I can simply place the new Thunderbird folder in /etc or something similar. I did execute a Thunderbird script from the folder sitting on my desktop which loaded the new version and also loads my email from the original location. Would it be silly of me to place the new Thunderbird folder arbitrarily and then just replace my shortcuts? Sorry if that makes no sense.13:41
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ikoniaGuest21751: strongly advise you not to use thunderbird unless it is installed from the official ubuntu software repos13:42
ikoniaGuest21751: or you fully understand the risks of what you are doing and how to manage it13:42
MarKsaitishow do I list services? and how do I start vino service?13:43
Guest21751That is the problem. I still have not had the time to learn about Ubuntu and Linux in general so I am a bit in the dark :(13:44
Guest21751I was just concerned that come 24th April when Thunderbird is no longer supported I be more at risk.13:44
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Dr_willisGuest21751,  for a user. you could keep your own thunderbird binary in its own dir in your home. that would be just for that user.13:45
ioMarKsaitis: '$ sudo service <service_name> start'. look in /etc/init.d13:45
ikoniaGuest21751: why are you not using thunderbird provided by ubuntu ?13:45
MarKsaitisI did apt-get install vino, but I dont think the service is running. i cant find it in etc init d either13:46
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  vino will only share the currently running visible desktop as far as i know.13:46
MarKsaitisreally13:46
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  its a specialized embded vnc server i guess you can say13:46
MarKsaitisim deleting it then13:47
Dr_willisx11vnc is also specilized.13:47
Guest21751ikonia: I am currently using the one provided through software centre. But support stops soon so I wanted to update. Is it possible to get a Thunderbird 11 package for Ubuntu 10.10?13:47
Dr_willisplus vino may be gnome only. (i rarely use it)13:47
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: you can list what is presently listening on your system network with sudo netstat -pant ;13:47
MarKsaitissacarlson, I already did, no 590013:47
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: ok you want to start vino server from the command line?  remind you that the users session must be open to run the server13:48
Guest21751Dr_willie: Thanks, I may see if I can do something similar if I can't find something pre packaged13:48
MarKsaitissacarlson, no. i want a normal latest stable ssh server running and providing virtual desktops for any user on the system13:49
MarKsaitiswhat sort of vnc do I want to install13:49
Guest21751At this point I feel sad that I spent so much time using windows when I could have been learning all about Linux :/13:49
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: you can start vino vnc from a remote ssh session13:50
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: so you don't already have an ssh server running?13:50
MarKsaitisi am repeating again, i want a daemon which already listens.13:50
MarKsaitisi have ssh, I want vnc13:50
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  install a standard 'vncserver' then. like xtightvnc or vnc4server13:51
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MarKsaitisare there any other on the top?13:51
Dr_willis!info tightvncserver13:52
ubottutightvncserver (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9-6.2 (oneiric), package size 762 kB, installed size 1676 kB13:52
MarKsaitisapt-get install xtightvnc - not found13:52
Dr_willis!info vnc4server13:52
ubottuvnc4server (source: vnc4): Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg4.3.0-37ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 2038 kB, installed size 5328 kB13:52
MarKsaitisfound it13:52
Dr_willisThere may be other vncservers - those are the 2 ive used over the years.13:52
Dr_willishttp://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot13:53
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MarKsaitiswhat is the service name for thightvncserver?13:54
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  its NOT a normal 'service' by default.. none of them are as far as i know13:54
Dr_willissee the url i posted on how to make it a service.13:54
MarKsaitisI used to install some vnc servers on centos I think, they used to just work with service etc13:54
Dr_willisthis is where freenx differs from vnc i belive.13:54
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  they set them up special then.13:55
StepNjumpAnybody has problems with compiz crashing?\13:55
Dr_willisnormal ussage would be for the user to ssh in, run vncserver, then connect with a vnc client.13:55
Guest21751Thank you for your advice everyone. I think I will track down someone locally who can do this!13:55
bharathcan anyone tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop13:55
MarKsaitiswhat a pain13:55
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site mentioned how centos/rhel has that feature.13:56
Dr_willisand may have some silimer solutions13:56
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: this is the method I found to enable vino remote enabled from ssh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26698113:56
MarKsaitisthanx, vino is crap as smbd said it only does the real desktop. I want virtual hidden ones13:57
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  old guide on doing it with xinetd - used it years ago -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12240213:57
MarKsaitisthanx13:57
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  as far as i know vino only does the local/visuble/current desktop. its had other issues so i never use vino13:57
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sacarlsonMarKsaitis: oh ya that's a different setup all together13:57
bharathDr_willis:can you please tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop?13:58
Dr_willisbharath,  thats vague.. go learn pyton.. make an app.. make it draw a polygon...13:58
Dr_willisor use a app to set the wallpaper to show a polygon. :)13:59
bharathDr_willis: not on the window13:59
magicJI have a system that correctly connects to my modem/router by ethernet as long as the router is already up.  If however the router is reset we do not automatically re-connect how do I fix this14:00
graingertanybody using empathy here? for IRC14:00
graingertthere is a user I can't tab complete to14:00
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: maybe this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183245614:01
Dr_willisive seen dozens of guides on setting up vnc at boot time. its all a matter of the details. :)  but most i read are now 3+ yrs old at least. that one url i showed earlier seemed neweest14:02
Dr_willishttp://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot seems decently recent14:02
Dr_willisand its 3 yrs old.14:02
arafangiongraingert: I'm here.14:03
graingertarafangion: I can tab complete you here14:03
graingertwhatafaurh?14:03
StepNjumpWhere is thunderbird supposed to be installed please? in the ~/.thunderbird or should just config files should be in there?14:03
sacarlsonmagicJ: maybe can't fix but make if fix faster by changing the time that dhcpd lisence expires  in a shorter window of time14:04
graingertStepNjump: just config files14:04
jribStepNjump: use the repositories14:04
arafangiongraingert: A difference, perhaps, is that here, I joined after you, but in bitcoin, you joined after me.14:04
jrib!software | StepNjump14:04
ubottuStepNjump: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents14:04
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magicJsacarlson: Sounds interesting, please explain more14:04
myherohii all14:04
graingertarafangion: nope14:05
LokireloadedG'day.14:05
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myherohow to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd in ubuntu14:05
bekksInsert it. Wait. Pull it out again.14:05
sacarlsonmagicJ: you should be able to login to the modem and change the license time to expire,  all adsl are different so I can't give much detail14:05
myherobanshee is not opening it....n there is no program associated with it to open it.....movie player is saying permission denied.....how to run movie player with root priviledges to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd14:06
sacarlsonmagicJ: like 900 secounds14:06
magicJsacarlson: I am missing how this will hep - the router is re-booted so any existing lease would be gone anyway - so please explain what I  am missing14:07
yandex237891myhero: You shouldn't need to use root priviledges14:07
sacarlsonmagicJ: yes but you system won't try to update until it expires14:07
bekksmyhero: a cleaning dvd does not contain cool music.14:07
myherobut movie player is saying needs priviledges n permission denied14:07
satyanashbekks,14:07
bobweaverHello there does anyone know of the name of the program that is running when installing ubuntuserver. Like the pick you language keyboard ect.14:07
Dr_willismyhero,  you mean one of those disks with a brush?14:07
satyanashbekks, lol14:07
myheroyea but it has many tracks to be played at certain pattern n time14:07
sacarlsonmagicJ: or is this wifi?14:08
bobweaverthe purple background with questions ^^14:08
bekksIt contains a little eraser to clean the lense - thats all.14:08
magicJsacarlson: so you are suggesting that the lease time that is there when it starts is passed to the linux machine and it will renew at that time, correct?14:08
bekksmyhero: Thats nonsense. Playing audio technically CANT clean anything in that device.14:08
Dr_willismyhero,  never seen one of those... as far as i know you just pop it in and it spins up and cleans...14:08
bekksNot even the inner side of the cables.14:08
Dr_willisthen you remove it..14:08
myheroyea...all the cleaning dvd's contain few traks to be played at certain intervals.14:08
yandex237891bekks: Actually, they usually jump between audio tracks to move the laser onto the fixed position of the brushes14:08
sacarlsonmagicj: yes when it's time has expired it will try and get a new a new lease expire from the dhcpd14:08
myheroyes now you are rght14:09
Dr_willisall the cleaning disks ive ver seen are bacially gimics that rarely seem to clean anything.14:09
sacarlsonmagicJ: and remind you this is only a guess14:09
yandex237891Dr_willis: How is a gimic to use microbrushes to wipe clean the laser? I've had them fix CD drives in the past. Basically you're full of shit.14:09
magicJsacarlson: I did not realize that the lease time was passed to the client.  I assumed that the lease just expired on  the router14:09
myheroi hve moser baer n phillips so must b of standard quality rest cant say14:09
Dr_willisyandex237891,  i recall articals ages past saying they did more damage then good.14:10
magicJsacarlson: its not a bad idea to try - I like the idea -  worth a try14:10
Dr_willisyandex237891,  a can of compressed air is what was recommended back then.14:10
yandex237891Dr_willis: I read an article stating that compressed air could disrupt the mechanical motor14:10
Dr_willisbut this is a better topic for #hardware14:10
sacarlsonmagicJ: well I watch the trafic and see that the client is the one that need to try to get a lease before any are given,  I don't see the dhcpd send any thing to the client telling him it expired14:10
myheroin windows it gives instructions to play tracks one after other so as to clean at diff positions...14:11
blotekVodka is the best one for CD cleaning :D14:11
yandex237891myhero: Run it in Windows then14:11
Dr_willisblotek,  just dont use WD-4014:11
myherou joking....or u serious....vodka...wtf14:12
blotekisopropylen/vodka14:12
blotekim serious14:12
myheroi dont hve windows.....m running ubuntu live14:12
Dr_willisblotek,  not cleaning the cd's - cleaning the drive...14:12
blotekye i mean drive;p14:12
yandex237891myhero: Windows can easily be obtained from sites such as the Pirate Bay14:12
myherothats isoporol alcohol14:12
myheroyea but i dont hve hdd...coz my hdd is out for windows recovery14:13
StepNjumpgraingert: and jrib I am trying to install from a compressed file for xyz reasons... Where should I install it? /opt?14:13
blotekisopropyl alcohol actually ;p14:13
graingertStepNjump: why?14:13
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graingertStepNjump: why not use the PPA14:13
blotekbut vodka is better because of 2 things = 1st it's avaible in every shop next to u 2nd u can drink rest of it since u need just a little bit;p14:14
Dr_willis'honest mom - its for my pc!'14:15
myheroyea i meant that only14:15
graingertStepNjump: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-next14:15
arafangionWhy does this channel have three 'floodbots'?14:15
Dr_willisarafangion,  in case one needs to call for backup. :)14:15
Dr_willisor netsplits14:16
yandex237891I wish new versions of software was easier in Ubuntu, instead of ppa's everywhere. We need to catch up with Mac/Windows14:16
arafangionDidn't consider netsplits, but aren't they usually short?14:16
arafangionAlthough they're increasonly frequent. :(14:16
graingertyandex237891: no, Mac and Windows are catching up on us14:16
Dr_willisarafangion,  depends.  - i dont find them that frequent.. but ive irc'd for years.. used to be way more common.14:16
graingertthey are both turning to App Repos14:17
graingertyandex237891: App Repos are a safer way to install and upgrade applications14:17
sacarlsonmagicJ: I guess I should have added you can get a renewed license before your dhcpd time expires with the command  sudo dhclient eth0 ;14:17
arafangionDr_willis: They seemed to be smaller then.14:17
Dr_willisgraingert,  yep. :) pointed that out to some wundows users at work the other day.14:17
arafangionDr_willis: Must just be my memory.14:17
Dr_willisarafangion,  back when 100 people in a channel was huge.. not 3000+14:17
graingertubuntu does need sandboxing though14:17
skurceyI have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work14:18
Dr_willisI just hope the software center does not become the disaster the android-market  is becoming.14:18
yandex237891graingert: You're deluded. A single installer will work across multiple versions of Windows. Each version of Ubuntu requires a separate ppa. And once the two years of support is up for most distros, you're fucked to find a ppa anymore14:18
magicJsacarlson: it is wired - and I like the idea - if the lease length is passed to the client when we connect then this will work fine - and I do think you may have this14:18
graingertbecause currently all apps I have installed can read my bitcoin wallet14:18
ericl_play14:18
graingertyandex237891: no you upgrade to the next version14:18
* Dr_willis wonders why he needed 64 and 32bit installers for some windows apps the other day...14:18
yandex237891graingert: Most people (myself included) don't want to upgrade their OS every year or two, they just want upgraded applications14:19
graingertyandex237891: and that's not true either installers have to be changed for different versions of apps14:19
graingertyandex237891: well that's just not a secure way of doing buisness14:19
Dr_willisbut this is getting OT..14:19
graingertyandex237891: just stick to the LTS14:19
ericl_LTS or a rolling release distro14:19
graingertrolling release meh14:20
yandex237891Rolling release is better, agreed.14:20
graingertI prefer having a clean start every 6mo14:20
graingertand I won't bother if someone doesn't force it on me14:20
Dr_willisclean install to get rid of the cruft ive been playing with.14:20
myherowhen will nxt LTS come out ?14:20
graingertApril14:20
yandex237891myhero: April this year14:20
Dr_willis12.04 is lts.14:20
yandex237891myhero: Though it has the Unity interface by default, so be careful14:20
Dr_willis2012 - 4th month.14:20
myherothis april....u mean the new beta version...which came out few days back14:21
graingertit's not a bother though just install gnome-panel and gnome-shell14:21
myherokkk14:21
graingertand use one of those14:21
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Dr_willismyhero,  its beta untill its released. :)14:21
graingertwhat about RC/14:21
graingert?*14:21
myheroyea14:22
myherowhat about oneiric...?14:22
Dr_williswhat about it?14:22
myherowhat will happen to it ?14:22
myherowill it b supported ?14:22
myherolike LTS14:23
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Dr_willis!lts14:23
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)14:23
Dr_willis!11.1014:23
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) is the current release of Ubuntu | Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111014:23
Dr_willisI forget the dates for non lts.14:23
yandex2378915 years isn't very long for a server OS. Windows/Redhat support lasts far longer...14:23
skurceyI have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work14:24
skurceywhat other command am i looking for?14:24
SyriaHi, I am running my machine under 11.10 and after upgrading Gnome to 3.4 I can't log in to it any more! can i role back the changes I made?14:24
myheroyea but then oneiric doesn't has any future...14:24
kingkatarii am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error14:24
Dr_willismyhero,  you may want to start trying 12.04 then . even tho its still in beta.14:24
kingkatari checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes14:24
kingkatari checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no14:25
Syriabazhang:  Hi14:25
kingkatariconfigure: error: Missing required libmemcached library14:25
Dr_willis!find libmemcached14:25
myheromany have complained a lot for 12.0414:25
ubottuFound: libmemcached-dbg, libmemcached-dev, libmemcached-tools, libmemcached6, libmemcachedprotocol014:25
blotekDr_willis, ubuntu is acting like it's all time beta;p14:25
myherotrue14:25
Dr_williskingkatari,  most likely you need libmemcached-dev14:25
Dr_willismyhero,  people complain about everything...14:26
SyriaUbuntu has something calles LTS ;)14:26
sacarlsonyandex237891: how would you like to support and update 10 different versions of your software for FREE over 5 years when you already have a working version in just one of them14:26
myherothats also true14:26
Dr_willisthey complain even more when its 'free'14:26
myherorght14:26
yandex237891sacarlson: I don't know, you should ask the Debian developers :P14:26
myherothey complain less for windows which is so expensive...14:27
SyriaDr_willis:  Do you have time for me please? You have helped me many times before and thx in advance.14:27
myheron even least for macs which wants ur pants off just for a mac14:27
Dr_willisSyria,  about to take the wife to the dr.. so not a lot of time.14:27
sacarlsonyandex237891: as a developer myself I just want to keep the latest one supported not work on the past14:27
myherowhat happened dr ?14:28
yandex237891sacarlson: Normal software lets you upgrade though. Ubuntu doesn't14:28
Dr_willismyhero,  Flu from the grandkids. :)14:28
SyriaDr_willis:  I hope that everything will be okay with you and your wife. :) TTYL14:28
yandex237891Dr_willis: Surely as a doctor you can fix it yourself?14:28
myheroohhh14:28
blotekyandex237891, it doesnt rly ?14:28
Dr_willisim staying away from her.. i dont want to catch it....14:28
myherosad things......god blessings14:28
blotekim not ubuntu user but as far as i remember u can always upgrade14:28
kingkatariThanks DR_Willis14:29
yandex237891blotek: I've had bad experiences with upgrading14:29
kingkatarithat worked14:29
Dr_willisSyria,  so whats the actual issue?14:29
sacarlsonyandex237891: the limits are normaly lib changes that you need to change code keep it compatible, then you need to fix bugs14:29
myheroy u wanna b away frm ur own wife ?14:29
Dr_williskingkatari,  what are you trying to compile?14:29
myherothats weird...14:29
blotekyandex237891, i've had bad experiences with ubuntu always ;p then i tried other distros and they dont have that many issues actually not even 10% of issues of ubuntu ;)14:29
Dr_willismyhero,  she has the flu.. and is pukeing her guts out. :P14:30
angsI have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?14:30
Koompjecan anyone see why my script doesnt accept numbers higher than 9 ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/14:30
myheroshe is ur half part...b with her even if u catch it14:30
Koompjeits very basic14:30
SyriaDr_willis:  Sometimes for no reason that I can notice.. on the network tray on the panel I see a message that says no networking devices! and after restarting and shutting down for several times it works and I can connect to wireless and lan networks again!14:30
kingkataria server14:30
Dr_willisSyria,  so both wireless and wired networking drops every so often?14:30
kingkataricrap now i am getting another errer14:31
Dr_williskingkatari,  what app? is an older version in the repos?14:31
SyriaDr_willis:  Yeah both of them.14:31
myheroanyways god n good blessings...14:31
kingkatarichecking for pg_config... no14:31
kingkatarino14:31
kingkatari./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'14:31
kingkatari./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'14:31
yandex237891Does anyone know how to raise issues in launchpad when they're being ignored? I reported a bug, just got told to report it upstream, but now have no response from either upstream or the Ubuntu developers.14:31
SyriaDr_willis:  It happened after upgrading gnome to 3.4, and i can't log in to gnome anymore I am working on unity now.14:32
Dr_willisSyria,  so its affecting  all the desktops and not just gnome 3.4?14:32
SyriaDr_willis:  I can't log in to Gnome at all, and the rest of environment like KDE and unity have a bad graphics now.14:33
horse01Hi14:33
angsI have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?14:34
horse01How can I hide my piblic ip adress like ceveral person on irc?14:34
Tasmania_Ubuntuangs I have a vitual box.14:34
yandex237891angs: VNC14:34
Tasmania_Ubuntu*virtual.14:34
Syriaangs:  I usually use VNC and SSH.14:35
kingkatari!find pg_config14:35
ubottuFile pg_config found in libecpg-dev, libpq-dev, manpages-zh, postgresql-9.1-dbg, postgresql-common, postgresql-server-dev-8.4, postgresql-server-dev-9.114:35
llutzhorse01: read freenode-faq on http://freenode.net about cloaks and ask in #freenode14:35
angsis VNC like teamviewer?14:35
myheroyea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both14:35
angsor teamviewer like VNC?:)14:35
Syriaangs:  Use remote desktop viewr, Pre installed with ubuntu.14:36
horse01llutz: ok thanks14:36
Tasmania_UbuntuYou could yuse VNC or Oracle VM VirtualBox.14:36
Tasmania_UbuntuNeither one is fine.14:36
angsthanks a lot for the suggestions14:36
SyriaYeah both sucks even on a high speed LAN.14:36
myheroany1 know about this issue ?14:37
myheroany1 know about this issue ?14:37
myheroyea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both14:37
FloodBot1myhero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:37
Dr_willisSyria,  so basically trying out gnome 3.4 really messed things up? :)14:37
SyriaUbuntu should developer something like RDP. :(14:37
sacarlsonmyhero: I think it's a lisence isue,  they make it hard to install the needed firmware and stuf14:37
SyriaDr_willis:  yes, Exactly. :(14:37
Dr_willismyhero,  totally depends on the exact chipset. some drivers for some wireless cards are a bit buggy sadly.14:38
myheromayb but i googled n mostly saw that broadcom wifi cards hve issues on ubuntu....14:38
kingkatariok this is driving me mad14:38
Dr_willismyhero,  as a test case you could try a 12.04 live cd. and see if the newer kernel/drivers work better.14:38
sacarlsonmyhero: yes because it's one of the few that isn't plug and play14:39
z1llai like this chan14:39
yandex237891myhero: Wireless support can be a bit wank in Linux. It's because the manufacturers don't give out proper specs, so the drivers can be just binary blobs.14:39
yandex237891My own wireless card doesn't work in the 3.x series of kernels14:39
rileypi installed 11.10 beside w7 and w7 booted after installing and now it wont14:39
Dr_willisI just ordered 2 wireless  usb's today off amazon.. found one that had many reviews saying it worked great in ubuntu.. heh.14:39
rileypwhat might be upset?14:39
Dr_willisrileyp,  what does it do exactly instead of not booting?14:40
SyriaI always make sure that hardware I want to buy are supported by ubuntu. :D14:40
Dr_willisSyria,  that can be hard to do at times.14:40
myheroyea i can try 12.04 for broadcom wifi cards14:40
yandex237891Syria: You mean supported by Linux, Ubuntu is meaningless14:40
KoompjeCan someone perhaps look at this code? i wrote it but dont know why it doesnt accept numbers higher than 9... Its very simple14:40
Koompjehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/14:41
Syriayandex237891:  Yes.14:41
sacarlsonmyhero: sometimes newer isn't better, there have been times I have to go back to older code that still works until they fix the new code14:41
myheroyea that also happens14:41
SyriaDr_willis:  Can I roll back the changes I made? Regarding Gnome 3.4?14:42
Dr_willisSyria,  guess it depends on how you installed it.  only 3.4 stuff ive seen is for 12.0414:42
myherosacarlson - how to msg to any specific user name....not pvt msg but to any specific user so it gets highlighted14:42
Dr_willisSyria,  theres always the ppapurge command14:42
yandex237891Koompje: I think your regex is incorrect14:42
myherobest is to try the new apps os n coddes live so nothing goes wrong14:43
yandex237891Koompje: [0-99]14:43
myherootherwise must wait for some time14:43
thesheff17anyone good with gparted?  I have an ntfs partition /dev/sda3 with 132GB of free space behind it but it won't let me reszie it?  Any suggestions?14:43
SyriaDr_willis: This is what I have done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/916101/14:44
kingkatarianyone able to help me with this error14:44
kingkatarichecking if PostgreSQL version is >= 7.4.0... yes14:44
kingkatari./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'14:44
kingkatari./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'14:44
myherowhat every1 think here - windows or ubuntu - which is more user frndly - which is better - which is less bug free ?14:44
yandex237891Koompje: I don't see why you'd write such a thing in bash personally (unless it's a homework assignment), bash is a disgusting language to use14:44
llutz!polls | myhero14:44
ubottumyhero: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:44
yandex237891myhero: Ubuntu was more user friendly with Gnome 2. Windows is more user friendly since Unity.14:45
wylde!ot | myhero14:45
ubottumyhero: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:45
myherokk14:45
Dr_willisSyria,  time to learn how to use ppa-purge i guess.14:45
Koompjeim just trying to learn a bit... what language do you recommend?14:45
Dr_willis'user friendly' = meaningless buzz word.14:45
sacarlsonkingkatari: maybe it doesn't like this version of compiler?  what is it we are compiling?14:45
Koompjeyandex237891?14:46
Dr_williskingkatari,  what exactly was it you are compiling?  that code seems broken.14:46
myheronot meaningless...every1 has diff opinions n thinkings...i was not taking polls but just was seeing how the ppl who use think about ubuntu.....nothing more then that14:46
horse01llutz: unfortunately, I can't found the answer at this adress: http://freenode.net, maybe I must be "registred" for to do that?14:47
Dr_willisits became meningless because it means so many differnt things.14:47
SyriaDr_willis:  I am now installing ppa-purge14:47
bazhangmyhero, its offtopic here. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here14:47
myherowhatever14:48
hauxAfter installing fglrx and using amdccc, xubuntu's loading screen (on startup or during reboot) appears to have a lower resolution, and the images (background, xubuntu logo) are stretched a bit horizontally. I have followed various procedures after doing some research, but nothing has fixed that issue. Could someone here help me out with this?14:48
llutzhorse01: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks14:49
SyriaDr_willis:  Do i have to do this now? sudo ppa-purge ppa:ricotz/testing14:49
llutzhorse01: and yes, you need to be registered14:49
Dr_willisSyria,  ive not really needed ppa purge - i suggest finding osme guides on using it.14:50
Dr_willisbbl14:50
horse01llutz: thanks a lot14:50
RealOpola14:51
RealOpso um suggestions for a hard drive clone tool14:51
RealOp???? :)14:51
rileypDr_willis: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/index.cfm?action=edit&e=3371494614:51
RealOphmm i guess maybe dd tool would work14:51
ikoniaRealOp: clonezilla ?14:51
RealOpAH14:51
RealOpsounds like what i need14:51
RealOpi love a zilla14:52
SyriaYeah clonezilla is pretty awesome.14:52
* zilla feels the love14:52
gfcQUIT14:52
rileypDr_willis:  if you have the time I have linked to my booting  my issue if you could be so kind14:52
abhisinghalow to make pen drive file system FAT???14:53
abhisinghalhow to make pen drive file system FAT???14:53
abhisinghalHElp14:53
Bragex9I have memtester 4.2.1-1 on my system. But how do I start it?14:54
sacarlsonabhisinghal: boot drive?  you can use disk utility gui to format in any format you wish14:54
sajimonabhisinghal: try mkfs.vfat /dev/[your device]14:54
sacarlsonabhisinghal: but for boot you need a different tool14:54
sacarlsonabhisinghal: or sajimon command method will also work for format14:56
myherofrm which command to obtain pc's mac address ?14:56
bastidrazormyhero: ifconfig14:56
icerootmyhero: ifconfig14:56
neonmanip link14:56
blitzfirefox aurora seems to think I no longer have the correct flash plugin installed after the latest restart, what should I do14:56
myheroip link or ifconfig ?14:56
sacarlsonmyhero: sudo ifconfig ;  will display each14:56
neonmanany of them, ip link shows less stuff14:56
myherok14:56
bastidrazorsacarlson: you don't need to sudo that.14:57
myherowhat about broadcom issue i asked b4 ?14:57
neonmanWasn't there14:57
sacarlsonbastidrazor: your correct you can abtain that info from ifconfig without sudo,  but any changes to address will require it14:57
backboxciao14:58
sacarlsonmyhero: you want a solution?  you should provide the hardware data from sudo lshw; and also google it14:58
abhisinghalsajimon your command didnt work14:58
horse01llutz: thanks again, I'll do that later (I have no time now), have a nice day14:58
fayimoraA friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?14:59
sajimonabhisinghal: what exactly didnt worked14:59
pn_123123Is HUD the only GUI available in Ubuntu?14:59
sajimonhud isnt a gui.15:00
icerootpn_123123: hud is not a gui15:00
abhisinghalsajimonsee this15:00
abhisinghalabhishek@abhishek-ThinkCentre-A55:~$ mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb115:00
pn_123123Ok.15:00
abhisinghalbash: mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1: No such file or directory15:00
icerootfayimora: ##hardware15:00
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icerootabhisinghal: space after vfat15:00
fayimoraok15:00
sacarlsonabhisinghal: I think that's a sudo command and be carefull to be sure you know what the usb device is before you format it15:00
blitzis there a way I can point mozilla to the correct flash plugin?15:01
test_hi, How do I remove wine from this computer? I tried with synaptic and terminal, but it's still there.15:01
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yandex237891test_: I suggest a damp cloth15:01
test_none of my install applications will work, so I was going to do a complete uninstall and install the newest version15:02
test_lol yandex15:02
sajimonabhisinghal: if running with sudo wont change anything, you must install fat utils by "sudo apt-get install dosfstools"15:02
Kian1Hi guys, lately my Ubuntu is acting weird, when I start Chromium it flashes in and disappear , this happens for some other apps once in a while and but for Chromium it constantly is the case (Ubuntu 11.10) Anybody might know the reason ?15:02
yandex237891test_: What message do you get when trying to remove it through the terminal?15:02
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blitzhave you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge wine15:02
myheroi did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address15:02
myhero??????/15:03
sajimonKian1: run chromium from terminal and see whats the error15:03
myheroi did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address????15:03
Kian1Sorry I am a complete newbie in Linux15:03
Kian1I entered Chromium / chromium / './Chromium' and system couldn't find it apparently15:04
sajimonKian1: i think command it chromium-browser15:04
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sacarlsonmyhero: you might want to pastebinit the info to us for the details example pastebinit | sudo lshw ;  you will need to install pastebinit if not installed already apt-get install pastebinit15:05
myherokk15:05
Kian1it says 'Segmentation fault' !!!???15:05
bastidrazormyhero: its your wifi card inside your computer15:05
sajimonKian1: and nothing else?15:06
Kian1yes15:06
Kian1only the command prompt again15:06
WeThePeoplemay i spam?15:06
WeThePeoplejk15:06
sacarlsonbastidrazor: I think myhero said it was a laptop, I  have no other details15:06
sajimonKian1: run "dmesg" and look for info about chromium fail at bottom15:07
llutz#97228515:07
llutzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/97228515:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 972821 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #972285 [oneiric-proposed] linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser segfault on startup" [High,Confirmed]15:07
llutzKian1: ^^15:07
haylomy friend is quadraplegic- he does run ubuntu 11, I neeed to make him a foot pedal to control some keys on the keyboard. I figured ubuntu staff is more likely to know  a solution to this than anyone15:08
Kian1ok just a sec15:08
hayloa new key board with unique keymapping for my quadraplegic frien would be ideal- but we can modify keyboards or whatever it takes15:08
MarKsaitisbest app in ubuntu lxde to configure existing services, remove or disable them?15:08
llutzMarKsaitis: sysv-rc-conf15:09
MarKsaitisllutz, thank you! best15:09
MarKsaitisnot bad. But anything better? I want them at a glance, so I can go thru and remove the ones I do not need15:10
Kian1I just did 'dmesg' and redirect the output to a file and searched it , no trace of Chromium in that file15:10
blitzI figured it out myself15:10
sacarlsonhaylo: the keyboard is mappable but I'm not sure what or how you want to map it.  you might also consider voice recogognition if voice is still an option15:11
sajimonKian1: llutz pasted a link with bug, its appears You are not the only one affected15:11
MarKsaitishow do I disable and remove the specified service?15:12
MarKsaitisfor example I want to completelly remove bluetooth15:13
Kian1sajimon, llutz: thanx15:13
ActionParsnipMarKsaitis: blacklist the bluetooth module, should be ok15:13
GlaceeWho should I talk to to get our application on the ubuntu repo or having it supported by ubuntu?15:14
MarKsaitisI want to completelly get rid of that crap ActionParsnip15:14
sacarlsonMarKsaitis: it looks like you just check or uncheck the service in sysv-rc-conf,  you want more prity graphics?15:14
yandex237891Glacee: The best thing is to investigate adding your application to Debian, that way it will automatically be picked up by Ubuntu. I presume it's open source?15:15
MarKsaitisI don't understand runlevel concept. What does 5 6 0 and S mean?15:15
ActionParsnipMarKsaitis: then remove the packages named in:   dpkg -l | grep blue    that aren't bluetooth related15:15
erratic php 415:15
bazhangGlacee, what about a PPA15:15
erraticphp 5.415:15
Glaceeyandex237891: thanks.. yes it is its an auth system that integrates openstack swift to cloudstack15:15
bazhang!ppa | Glacee15:15
ubottuGlacee: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:15
llutz!runlevel | MarKsaitis15:15
erratic!ppa php-5.415:15
ubottuMarKsaitis: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.15:15
ActionParsnipMarKsaitis: blacklisting bluetooth will make it not load, all you will be losing is a few Mb of drive space....15:16
erratic!porn15:16
Glaceeyeah well.. we have a ppa already but just thought t would be cool to have it in the official repo15:16
bazhangerratic, /msg ubottu ...15:16
ActionParsnip!ppa | erratic15:16
ubottuerratic: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:16
erraticno way he no know nothing15:16
erratici msg u15:16
Kian1sajimon: so sould I revert back to prev version of kernel ? (how we do that ?)15:16
test_kexanie, someone may have resolved your problem with crome, but if not you can try opening ubuntu software center (assuming you are using ubuntu) and install the Chromium web browser which is the same as crome. I hope that helps15:17
yandex237891test_: Chromium != Chrome. Chrome is proprietary software. Chromium is not.15:17
test_I thought that is where crome come from, the Linux chromium15:18
sacarlsonKian1: you can change the defalt kernel boot with a gui grub-customize that can be found in ppa15:18
RemowylliamsHello everyone I'm having a problem executing an init.d rc file, I copied and updated a similar file to a new file name. I ran update-rc.d swstomcat defaults and that ran fine.15:19
MarKsaitishow do I blacklist a service? should I uncheck it instead then? what the diffeence?15:19
Remowylliamsbut when I try to execute /etc/init.d/swstomcat start it tells me *swstomcat is not installed15:19
MarKsaitisso what is runlevel 0 and S ?15:19
ActionParsnip!runlevel15:20
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.15:20
KircleAfter uninstalling emerald and trying to use compiz as my window decorator my window borders disappear after opening another window that's maximised. Here's my ubuntuforums entry http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195267715:20
melvincv!upstart15:21
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/15:21
sacarlsonRemowylliams: might sudo start swstomcat ;  work?15:21
ActionParsnipMarKsaitis: run:   echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf15:21
nemos failed to call wbcGetpwnam: WBC_ERR_DOMAIN_NOT_FOUND any clue?15:21
Kian1sacarlson: thanx alot, another issue I have is that everytime I boot I get a different dispaly resolution with so many error on resolution auto detect and refresh rate I guess15:21
nemoserror i get with wbinfo -i username15:21
Kian1after several trials finally it goes full screen resolution15:21
nemos???15:22
Remowylliamssacarlson: No I don't thinks so because I can use /etc/init.d/tomcat6 start just fine15:22
sacarlsonKian1: I guess that's a xorg thing? maybe your monitor isn't detected or it's specs are unknown15:22
Remowylliamssacarlson: and not running it as a required user should generate a privilage error not a not installed message15:22
Kian1sacarlson: it's an old VAIO laptop15:23
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jeremiah_can someone please tell me how to instal sun java 6 runtime from the website via terminal?15:23
ActionParsnipjeremiah_: sun don't own java now, it's oracle15:23
sacarlsonRemowylliams: maybe a path problem?  how did you install it?15:24
yandex237891jeremiah_: I think it's in the default repositories15:24
ActionParsnipjeremiah_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a15:24
yandex237891ActionParsnip: It's still labelled sun_java in the repos isn't it?15:24
ActionParsnipyandex237891: java isn't packaged any more due to license15:24
Remowylliamssacarlson: I found the problem I'm pretty sure thanks.15:24
yandex237891ActionParsnip: Well that's a bit crap15:24
Kian1sacarlson: should I go try to change some config file of xorg ?15:24
ActionParsnipyandex237891: it's oracle, so yes15:24
sacarlsonRemowylliams: so what was the solution?15:24
sacarlsonKian1: you might want to google your display to see if it's supported and or provide the info to us here15:25
Remowylliamssacarlson: Have to find the bin directory with the bin/boostrap.jar file it's part of this startup script15:26
RayzrShrpI have 4 nics on one 11.04 machine and only the first 3 are being listed in ifconfig15:26
sacarlsonRemowylliams: ok cool15:26
RayzrShrpif I do lspci though the missing one is listed15:26
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, ok then oracle java15:27
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:27
anoopthykAnyone know about status of Beeceem Wimax support in Linux specifically ubuntu15:27
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: they all the same nic chipset?15:28
ActionParsnipjeremiah_:   what is the output of the command I gave please?15:28
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:28
RayzrShrpsacarlson: 2 of them are, one of the ones that doesnt show up is the same, a realtek 813915:28
ActionParsnipjeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support15:28
Kian1sacarlson: the laptop is a Viao vgn-c140g and the graphic processor is Intel GMA 95015:28
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, there isn't many people in there.15:29
Kian1sacarlson: 1280 x 800 ( WXGA )15:29
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: might look at /var/log/system and see what might be found there on that device15:29
fubadahi, I changed my box from DHCP to static, however, nightly it re negotiates a new DHCP address15:29
ActionParsnipjeremiah_: doesn't matter, precise is not supported here.15:29
fubadacan soemone clarify where that could be15:29
Remowylliamssacarlson: yep that fixed it. sorry should have read the script.15:29
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, ok whatever....15:29
RayzrShrpsacarlson: im guessing they are stepping on each other15:29
MarKsaitishow to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?15:30
ActionParsnipfubada: how did you define the IP?15:30
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: ya could be an interupt conflict or other problem15:30
dr--willisMarKsaitis:  runtume?15:30
blitzI have flash-plugin installed, how do I make aurora use that instead of gnash?15:31
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: if posible you might just try move the cards to different slots if that's an option15:31
RayzrShrpsacarlson: i dont seem to have a /var/log/system log file15:31
bazhangblitz, remove gnash completely15:31
dr--willis!runlevel15:31
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.15:31
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, in fact, i am the only one in ther!15:31
MarKsaitisdr-willis yes15:31
ActionParsnipjeremiah_: channel policy dude15:31
MarKsaitisDr_willis,  yes15:31
RayzrShrpsacarlson: that is an option but i put them next to each other assuming the share slots would be 1-3 and 2-415:31
jeremiah_ActionParsnip, ya i know...15:31
blitzok bazhang, done, now what15:31
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: you have to use your imagination I can't remember exactly it's /var/log/syslog15:32
bazhangjeremiah_, you're not in #ubuntu+115:32
jeremiah_bazhang, what? now i see i am in ubuntu+.15:32
jeremiah_hang on15:32
ActionParsnip(16:28:54) ActionParsnip: jeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support15:32
* ActionParsnip shrugs15:32
janhousecan I write ubuntu.iso to the USB flash using dd? should it work?15:33
MarKsaitishow to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?15:33
blitzbazhang, now firefox just says "You do not have the correct Flash plugin installed. Get Flash Now" again15:33
dr--willisjeremiah_:  you are not in there15:33
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: well that's how I got my video capture card to work, it just didn't like one slot as I think moving slots changes the interupt signal needed15:33
RayzrShrpsacarlson: 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -515:33
bazhangjanhouse, or cat15:33
janhouseso dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc should work?15:34
jeremiah_dr--willis, now i am15:34
janhouseor do I write it to partition15:34
MarKsaitishow on earth do I know which runlevels do I uncheck that service for? Also, whats the difference in blacklisting a service and unchecking it on runlevels?15:34
janhouse/dev/sdc115:34
RayzrShrpsacarlson: 8139too 0000:02:0a.0: Chip not responding, ignoring board15:35
LantiziaAnyone familiar with mtools?  I know about using the -i parameter so I can avoid setting drive letters... but how are you meant to use that if your performing operations on a partition inside the image?15:35
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I googled and see others having the same problem15:35
RayzrShrpsacarlson: hmmm15:35
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: problem is I haven't found any in english yet15:35
MarKsaitiswhy networking service is in runlevel 0 and 6? Doesnt make a damn SENSE?!?!?!15:36
RayzrShrpsacarlson: lol super15:36
fubadaguys, I changed my interfaces file to a static configuration (removing dhcp), but nightly I seem to obtain a dhcp address somehow15:36
fubadacan someone clarify what could be causing this15:36
ActionParsnipfubada: do you have network manager still installed?15:36
fubadanot sure, I installed ubuntu-server, dont think it comes with N15:36
fubadaM15:36
RayzrShrpsacarlson: guess ill have to do standard hardware tshoot, pull 8139 that works and try one that doesnt to rule out the card15:36
ActionParsnipfubada: I'd check15:37
fubadatheres no gui at all15:37
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: first one in english don't see a solution in it http://fixunix.com/networking/10831-network-card-problem.html15:37
fubadano xorg15:37
fubadaso theres no network manager15:37
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RayzrShrpsacarlson: its odd that the exact same card works, maybe the card is bad15:37
gmifubada: there is adhclient3 process there15:37
fubadawhere15:37
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: try just swap the card locations it might be a quick fix15:37
Fallout301at the moment, I'm using ubuntu in a virtual box, so i was kinda wondering if there was a way I could force ubuntu to use 1360x768, it worked for 1 day then decided to only work on any resolution BUT my own15:37
RayzrShrpsacarlson: yep ill try that15:37
fubadagmi you mean: dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases -1 eth015:38
fubada?15:38
fubadai need to kill that heh15:38
fubadathats what it is15:38
FloodBot1fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:38
gmifubada: yes15:38
ActionParsnipfubada: nm-cli exists, as does wic-curses15:38
fubadaActionParsnip: i had dhclient running in background, i think killing it fixed the problem15:39
RayzrShrpsacarlson: if i can get this to work ill be able to build a sick CCIE lab using gns315:39
fubadai never rebooted after changing interfaces file15:39
ActionParsnipfubada: could uninstall the package that gives the dhclient command15:39
fubadai tried that, but it also tries to remove "ubuntu-minimal" with it15:40
fubadawhich is not a good idea15:40
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: your lab will be cranking trust me15:40
ActionParsnipfubada: true15:40
RayzrShrpsacarlson: 10 usb nics, a 3550, a 3400 and 4 nics in a gns server15:40
alex228nujnuj15:40
alex228hell gays15:40
RayzrShrpsacarlson: virtual routers connected to a psycial network15:40
alex228hello gays15:41
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: ok we can only hope15:41
RayzrShrpsacarlson: what did you google on for that?15:42
RayzrShrpsacarlson: just 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -515:42
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: yes15:42
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I got 6 results15:43
odisha2it's #wolfgame - #wolfgame - #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - join #wolfgame - #wolfgame - let's go #wolfgame - come on #wolfgame15:43
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lqw_Einstieghi15:45
bse__-hello. i was wondering: i have a 1tb harddisk in my ubuntu box. i know that they calculate that in GB, not GiB. so actually that should be equal to 931 GiB. but then there's a large discrepency when i do "df -h". it tells me the actual size of the drive is 917 GiB, it says 131 GiB are used, and 740 GiB are free (131 GiB + 740 GiB = 871 GiB, actually). i only have large files (a few hundred megabytes each) on it. it's formatted as ext 4. i was wondering ...15:45
bse__-... where the differences originate from15:45
bollyanyone know if a recently bought logitech microphone can be used with linux - ubuntu???15:45
bollyI feel robbed.15:45
beandogbse__-: that's normal enough.  While they are marketed as one, there's always like 10% or so actually missing.  Something about how they count the amount.15:46
bse__-beandog: that i already made clear - they calculate in GiB, not GB. base 10. but the rest is a mystery.15:46
LjLbse__-: ext4 allocates 5% of the drive to root-only use, it might be that15:46
Dr_willisbse__-,  and 5% is reserved for root user recovery. but thats tuneable via tune2fs command15:46
gmibse_: the miising 10% are used by your filesystem, when you format it you can use to have less inodes and less reserved space15:47
beandogbse__-: could be ext4 reserving space for root.  5% by default15:47
bse__-LjL: Dr_willis: gmi: thanks :)15:47
* melvincv wonders what algorithm the HDD manufacturers use to calculate disk space :P15:47
beandogLjL: I've never understood the point of that.15:47
Dr_willismelvincv,  marketing math.15:47
bse__-oh yes, 5% actually matches exactly the difference in what df -h shows15:48
LjLbeandog: well nowadays it could be made less i guess, but the idea is that logfiles and important things will still be written to disk even when it's "full"15:48
mneptokbeandog: if you accidently fill all space and suddenly cannot write to config files, logs and such, the system will break in bad ways.15:48
Dr_willisI set the reserved space to 0% on my homes :) but rarely touch it on /15:48
bse__-then about 2.5% may be for the filesystem itself, and it's explained15:48
beandogLjL: Does it actually use that though?  That's what I've never figured out.15:48
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LjLbeandog: yes, i've sometimes been unable to write to the disk as a user, but i could as root, so i can personally confirm it does ;)15:49
RayzrShrpsacarlson: are there any tools to interface with that realtek card?15:49
beandogLjL: really.  Well, that's cool.  So it's a built-in quota.15:49
mneptokbeandog: it is unused but reserved. 1% should be enough on a 1TB disk. "sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/WHATEVER"15:50
Unknown0BChi, I have a mirror downloaded onto my hard-drive for ubuntu oneiric. Having trouble getting software center to install from this mirror on hard-drive.15:50
beandogmneptok: agreed.15:50
beandogI usually use tunefs to reduce it15:50
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: tools?  you can setup options in modprobe.  I'm not sure what you mean15:50
Unknown0BCI add the line "deb file:///reposdir oneiric main restricted universe muliverse.15:50
Dr_willisthe tuneing% change will only take affect after the fs is remounted i think. Might need a reboot.. not sure.15:50
RayzrShrplsmod15:50
gmibse__: read this http://www.wiredrevolution.com/system-administration/free-ext3-reserved-blocks-with-tune2fs15:50
RayzrShrpoops15:50
nuxxhi everybody15:51
Unknown0BCYet software center seems to not install from this repository on hard-drive. I don't understand why. I did a "apt-get update" yet it is not working.15:51
bse__-gmi: thanks, i guess 1% will be plenty then. my main drive is a very small ssd which still has about 50% space left anyway15:51
nuxxim having some trouble to install d-link wifi dongle  on ubuntu15:51
Unknown0BCI am wondering if any of you successfully use a repository on local hard-drive.15:52
nuxxcan someone help me please15:52
mneptoknuxx: the first step is to find out who made the wireless chipset in that D-Link, because D-Link did not. "lsusb -vvv" with the dongle plugged in should tell you. Realtek, Broadcom, someone like that.15:53
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I'm finding some methods to modify the irq settings in this example http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=13726815:53
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sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I think it's a irq conflict as my best guess15:54
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sacarlsonnuxx: what is seen with that device with command  lsusb ;15:55
nuxxBus 007 Device 002: ID 04f3:0213 Elan Microelectronics Corp.15:56
nuxxBus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:56
nuxxBus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:56
nuxxBus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:56
nuxxBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:56
FloodBot1nuxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:56
nuxxBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:56
mneptok!pastebin | nuxx15:57
ubottunuxx: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:57
nuxxsorry15:57
sacarlsonnuxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190332715:57
mneptoksacarlson: wifi dongle, not flash storage.15:58
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sacarlsonmneptok: that's the only device I see15:59
phpN00bcan some one recommend me a goo webbased torrent client?15:59
sacarlsonnuxx: so I guess your device isn't seen at all, try another usb port15:59
mneptoksacarlson: nuxx is asking about a wifi dongle. and his paste was cut off by the bots.15:59
RayzrShrpsacarlson: dmesg is showing one on irq 18 and the other on irq 2116:00
ActionParsnipphpN00b: transmission has a web UI16:00
i7cphpN00b: so has deluged, but i find deluged very buggy.16:00
RayzrShrpsacarlson: maybe the card cant work at irq 2116:00
i7cbetter stick so transmission indeed.16:00
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: or something else is also using irq 2116:00
phpN00bActionParsnip, I need it to work over ssl16:00
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RayzrShrpsacarlson: is there a way to list what is using what irq?16:01
ActionParsnipphpN00b: deluge16:01
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I'm sure there is16:02
thunder1212do i need to upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 LTS distro if i purchase new hardware like a printer which is not being automatically detected or installed on my current distro.. plz help16:02
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sacarlsonRayzrShrp:  cat /proc/interrupts16:03
ActionParsnipthunder1212: yes it will be detected. I'd go for an HP16:03
mneptokthunder1212: did you check the printer compatability? - http://www.openprinting.org/printers16:04
sacarlsonthunder1212: I would look in ppa before I upgrade.  for me upgrade is a last resort16:04
RayzrShrpsacarlson: 21 is not listed16:05
RayzrShrpeth0 adn eth1 are using 16 and eth2 is using 1816:05
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: well then it must not conflict then16:05
thunder1212ActionParsnip: actually the printer got detected its also being shown there in the printers list but whenever i give a print command it shows no error and reports the job competed although it didn't print anything..16:06
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: and what happens when you move the card to a different slot?16:06
ActionParsnipthunder1212: remove the printer and reboot. Reinstall it and it may help16:06
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sacarlsonRayzrShrp: maybe the card really is broken,  I have had one bad nic card in 30 years16:07
RayzrShrpsacarlson: yeah i wont know until tonight when im home and can move around the cards, ive never had a bad card16:07
JeroenDeDauwI think my grep is broken, is there some way to reinstall?16:07
mneptoksacarlson: if it's 30 years, you are extremely lucky. Token Ring cards has hideous fail rates.16:08
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: what makes you think it's broken?16:08
thunder1212ActionParsnip: did all that, even downloaded the drivers from hp website for the printer and installed manually as explained on the hp site .. i downloaded around 100+Mb of missing libs durint the installation ans it still did not print anything..16:08
JeroenDeDauwsipior: because it does not find any matches when it should, and some scripts using it are failing16:09
sacarlsonmneptok: we had got good stuf from sun micro in the old days16:09
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sipiorJeroenDeDauw: can you pastebin some examples?16:09
JeroenDeDauwsipior: what would  good example be?16:09
angsI use ubuntu 10.04. when it is powered up, if it can not find monitor, it gives an error and stop the start up process. how can I disable the option to scan if there is monitor or not on the pc?16:09
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: one that fails :-)16:09
RayzrShrpsacarlson: im guessing it has to do something with both network cards being the exact same make/model16:10
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: i mean, you can just reinstall the grub package, but it might be useful to understand the error, in case it is not limited to grep.16:10
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I would think you would have more problems with other vendors conflict,  you would think the same model would be made to work together16:11
JeroenDeDauwsipior: I have been trying to fix git review for 4 hours now. I want it to work. I don't care why it's broken anymore at this point.16:11
JeroenDeDauwAnd it looks like the issue is coming from grep16:11
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: you will if it breaks again.16:11
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JeroenDeDauwsipior: it did not break, this is a fresh Ubuntu install on which it did not work16:11
RayzrShrpsacarlson: not much else i can think to do right now without being able to move those cards around16:11
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: oh but being two of them they may default to the same irq16:11
thunder1212sacarlson: so u don't upgrade ur distro and u look in the ppa of the newer versions and install the requisite software..16:11
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sipiorJeroenDeDauw: what makes you think reinstalling the package will be of use, in that case?16:12
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sacarlsonthunder1212: yes I stick with lts16:12
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | angs16:12
ubottuangs: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:12
JeroenDeDauwsipior: I don't think it will, I think it might.16:12
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: well, give it a try.16:13
sacarlsonthunder1212: I play with other versions in virtualbox and multiboot in my test partitions when needed16:13
JeroenDeDauwsipior: I am not a sysadmin and don't care about dealing with this stuff, I want to get back to my actual job16:13
JeroenDeDauwsipior: how?16:13
JeroenDeDauwif I do sudo apt-get remove grep it gives a warning16:13
dr--willis!find grep16:13
ubottuFound: dctrl-tools, grep, ack-grep, bzr-grep, ext3grep, grepcidr, grepmail, libagrep-ocaml, libagrep-ocaml-dev, mboxgrep (and 9 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=grep&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all16:13
sipiorJeroenDeDauw: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall grep"16:13
tomu_hello16:14
dr--williswonder if hes useing some grep alternative like egrep16:14
sipiordr--willis: they all come from the same package :-)16:14
dr--willis!find egrep16:15
ubottuFound: pcregrep16:15
BendHello, can you help me to install video card driver? I have a AGP Radeon 9100.....Xubuntu 11.10 doesn't find any hardware driver :(16:15
DropsOfSerenitydr--willis, that's really handy, is there a way to find a package like that using a command? apt-cache search is never that good, is there like a !find grep just like how you did16:15
thunder1212sacarlson: ok .. so do you try a lot of linux distros on ur laptop and if i try a lot of distros on my laptop.. that is if i test many distros on my laptop will it get damaged?16:15
dr--willisapt-file  DropsOfSerenity   is handy16:16
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michaeltaxonhi im trying to burn an iso image16:16
michaeltaxonusign k3b16:16
michaeltaxonon kubuntu16:16
michaeltaxonbut i cant get it done16:16
michaeltaxoncan someone please help?16:16
FloodBot1michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:17
RayzrShrpsacarlson: i need a way to manually set the irq for that second card some how maybe16:17
thunder1212sacarlson: also if u could tell me how to add ppd of latest versions of ubuntu bcoz my printer works with ubuntu 11.04 and later vers.16:17
sacarlsonthunder1212: one thing I use a desktop unit,  and you should be able to at least try a live cd or boot an iso with no risk as long as you don't overwrite any of your preinstalled stuf16:17
dr--willismichaeltaxon:  and the error is?16:17
angswhat is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?16:18
michaeltaxonhi dr willis16:18
MangledBodyHi everyone! Can anybody help me with Tibia client? The native one for Linux is chopping as hell, but the windows one under Wine runs flawlessly... Anyone knows how to change settings, or what is missing?16:19
thunder1212sacarlson: no i mean will there or can there be a hardware failure if i do too much installtion and uninstallation on my laptop16:19
jack65hello16:19
michaeltaxon dr willis16:20
sacarlsonthunder1212: your not forced to install to try, and no if you keep a spare partition to play with I can't see how you might damage something.  but anything is posible I suppose16:20
dr--willis!details16:20
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:20
michaeltaxonthe error  is cdrecord returned an unknown error  (code 255)16:20
ActionParsnipMangledBody: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried in Unity2D?16:20
michaeltaxonsometimes using TAO writing mode solves this issue16:20
michaeltaxonplease help me16:20
jack65that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: I get the words http://musicaearte.altervista.org/             FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN16:20
MangledBodyActionParsnip: No, nothing... It's just chopping...16:21
RayzrShrpsacarlson: whats odd is under lshw it shows the card but network lists unclaimed16:21
MangledBodyActionParsnip: Unity?16:21
thunder1212sacarlson: yes, i agree with u on that ;)16:21
RayzrShrpsacarlson: is there somewhere i have to tell it to use that card?16:21
ActionParsnipMangledBody: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc16:21
jack65that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/16:21
jack65I get the word FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN16:21
MangledBodyActionParsnip: I still have Gnome, I have LTS :)16:21
michaeltaxonhello16:21
michaeltaxoncan someone tell me how to burn iso image in k3b?16:22
thunder1212sacarlson: so plz tell me how to configure the hp printer thats misbehaving on 10.04 lts and working properly on 11.04..16:22
michaeltaxoni keep gettin errors16:22
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: oh you could reload the driver to see if it will load now.  sometimes it's a sequence thing16:22
ActionParsnipMangledBody: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so Unity uses Gnome as the DE still16:22
ActionParsnipMangledBody: do you use compiz?16:22
MangledBodyActionParsnip: No, but it's really simple game, Mana World has absolutely no problems16:22
michaeltaxon I need to burn an iso image in k3b...can someone help me? i keep getting an error - code 25516:22
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: what happens is that several drivers are tried on the same device and puts it into a strange state and sometimes a reload after boot will get it working16:23
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: do other burners run ok? Are you using KDE?16:23
RayzrShrpsacarlson: how do i reload the driver?16:23
michaeltaxonim usim using k3b16:23
ActionParsnipMangledBody: are there any bugs reported?16:23
michaeltaxonand what do you mean by other burners?16:23
michaeltaxonthe only burning software i used is k3b16:24
MangledBodyActionParsnip: No, that's the wierd part :(16:24
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: is your DESKTOP KDE, or are you using Unity/Gnome etc?16:24
ActionParsnipMangledBody: I'd report a bug16:24
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ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: are you using Unity?16:25
MangledBodyActionParsnip: OK... Can you tell me how can I run something uder Wine as root?16:25
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: what I think you do is remove the module rmmod and then modprobe  to reinstall it16:25
ActionParsnipMangledBody: why does it need root?16:25
RayzrShrplsmod16:25
MangledBodyActionParsnip: Just patch on a higher version16:25
Guest415Hi. I have ubuntu 11.10. And I need to add debian ppas. And what debian's codename i should use?16:25
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michaeltaxonno16:26
joubinHey, does anyone know what modle acer is on ubuntus home page16:26
ActionParsnipMangledBody: change your directory to where the app is stored and run: wine filename.exe16:26
michaeltaxonim using kubuntu16:26
MangledBodyActionParsnip: ok, thank you :)16:26
ActionParsnipMangledBody: I'm VERY doubtful it will need rott, as the only files you will edit are the ones in your users home16:26
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: there is also insmod see http://linux.die.net/man/8/insmod  for the list of others16:27
MangledBodyActionParsnip: OK :)16:27
MangledBodyBye16:27
ActionParsnipMangledBody: so you don't need root access there as you have full access to your own daat16:27
ActionParsnipah well16:27
wyldeeveryone wants to run as root. Even if/when you convince them they don't need to, they want to abuse sudo! >.<   </rant>  </ot>16:28
kevin__Hi just jumped over from mint 10 to 11.10 see what it's like16:29
ActionParsnipkevin__: no bad thing :)16:29
kevin__seems OK to me :-)16:30
thunder1212sacarlson: how do you update to the latest software on 10.04 lts version16:30
netbuskevin__: they both have their perks, eh?16:30
kevin__don't know anybody yet on this Xchat give me time jajaja16:30
sacarlsonthunder1212: all the software?  you can pick and chose what is avalable to update in synaptic16:31
wyldethunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:31
kevin__only thing I have found that does not work so far is kdenlive16:31
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome etc, or are you using KDE?16:31
kevin__but I will use another one like shotwelll16:31
thunder1212sacarlson: no i know that, th e automatic updates are on ... not that i mean there are new version coming in ubuntu every 6 months and there the softwares are more upto date in their repos..16:33
thunder1212wylde: tnks but i dont want to upgrade16:33
DropsOfSerenitykevin__, you'll find that unity, especially in 12.04 is becoming a really polished and unified experience, that's really solid16:33
sacarlsonthunder1212: there are other updates that happen at random times to random applications in the ppa repositories16:34
kevin__DropsOfSerenity, I am using gnome 11.1016:34
sacarlsonthunder1212: for that you need to know what you want to update to find them16:34
kevin__ubuntu sorry16:34
wyldethunder1212: that "upgrades" the packages, it doesn't upgrade you out of 10.0416:34
wyldethunder1212:  you'd have to use dist-upgrade for that16:34
DropsOfSerenitykevin__, yeah I know, just sayin unity is getting better and better, especially in 12.0416:34
thunder1212wylde: okkk16:35
kevin__aha16:35
jack65that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/16:35
jack65I get the word   FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN16:35
DropsOfSerenitykevin__, and as an old kde 3.5 then gnome 2.6 fan, I now use unity all day every day, for work and play, and I love it, and this is coming from someone who used gentoo for the better part of 3 years, using minimalist *box and xmonad desktops16:35
kevin__Is this a general chat channel as in Mint julia they get very upset if you use general talk16:35
bazhangkevin__, #ubuntu-offtopic16:36
ActionParsnipjack65: I get text/html plugin   in chromium16:36
DropsOfSerenityyou go to #ubuntu-offtopic16:36
kevin__it must only be help topics16:36
wyldekevin__: yep, this is the support channel16:36
jack65ActionParsnip,    yes16:36
kevin__OK, getting to know my way around this channel16:36
thunder1212sacarlson: ok take this eg of hp printer that i have ubuntu 10.04 after upgrade and updates doesn't recognize it but 11.04 easily identifies it ..16:37
ActionParsnipjack65: seems to need gecko-mediaplayer   source: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1679013.html16:37
ActionParsnip!info gecko-mediaplayer16:37
ubottugecko-mediaplayer (source: gecko-mediaplayer): Multimedia plug-in for Gecko browsers. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.4-2ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 220 kB, installed size 748 kB16:37
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kevin__DropsOfSerenity, you have tried a fair few distros then :-)16:38
sacarlsonthunder1212: that's not much info to work from as you didn't specify what printer it is but here is an example http://askubuntu.com/questions/43088/how-to-install-printer-driver-for-hp-deskjet-1000-j11016:40
kevin__DropsOfSerenity, so you say about 12.04. Am I missing out on something here using the 11.10 ?, it is very stable but seems a bit to easy to use changing from Mint 1016:40
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dms3310ip16:41
ActionParsnipkevin__: precise is just the next release of ubuntu and it LTS (5 years support)16:41
dms3310can i get ip?16:41
auronandacekevin__: feel free to test 12.04, any issues in #ubuntu+1 until its released16:41
compdocyou can have my ip16:42
andyxtremehello16:42
andyxtremei have a question about gnome 316:42
kevin__do you guys have any links to the iso, i will give it a whirl16:42
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wylde!ask | andyxtreme16:43
ubottuandyxtreme: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:43
pengemisanybody know how to find apparmor 2.4 compatibility patch? i'm using maveric with kernel 3.1.316:43
thunder1212sacarlson: i have hp deskjet ink advantage k109g printer and i also did an install from the driver downloaded fro hplip opensource site.. and though the install was a success it still did not print and there is no error also.. just says the print job completed successfully,,16:43
auronandacepengemis: using a custom kernel for 10.10 isn't really supported here, plus 10.10 is end of life this month, consider updating16:45
RayzrShrpsacarlson: removing the module and readding didnt help16:45
RayzrShrpsacarlson: maybe the card is just bad16:46
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: any error seen when they are reloaded?16:46
jack65ActionParsnip,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer      http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer,  ( files that use i386  ???  )16:46
RayzrShrpsacarlson: just that error 5 on probe16:46
andyxtremeI installed ubuntu 12.04 on VMWare Player and i chose to start with GNOME interface(not GNOME classic). I heard 12.04 comes with GNOME 3.4 but it doesn't look like in the screenshots on the GNOME website, it looks like the classic. Am i missing something?16:46
ActionParsnipjack65: just went to http://musicaearte.altervista.org/index.php/component/content/article/55   and got audio....16:46
ActionParsnipandyxtreme: askk in #ubuntu+1 for Precise issues16:46
auronandace!12.04 | andyxtreme16:46
ubottuandyxtreme: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+116:46
sacarlsonRayzrShrp: I guess you would have to look at the source code to determine what a code -5 is16:46
ActionParsnipandyxtreme: Precise uses Unity by default, not Gnome-shell but it can be installed16:47
ActionParsnipjack65: I did run:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-radio-browser      noy sure if it helped16:47
pengemisauronandace, just asking if somebody know how to patch it, i have complicated conditions that force me to not upgrade :)16:48
jack65ActionParsnip,    ok now I feel16:48
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auronandacepengemis: i hope one of those complicated conditions isn't your dislike of unity (there are alternatives)16:49
kevin__launcher Icon size, that's handy !16:50
Descriptionedkevin__ : yes i agree that's handy ;)16:50
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pengemisauronandace, LOL unity take first place! and also my old gpu (nvidia fx 5600), anyway, can you show me what is an alternatives? but i don't like gnome fallback, that's look weird16:52
OysterCultrunning natty here and if i upgrade to 11.10 how much more memory does it take to run 11.10 and will 11.04 be uninstalled?16:52
auronandacepengemis: kde, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment16:53
jack65ActionParsnip,        is still            I get text/html plugin   in chromium16:53
sacarlsonthunder1212: I don't see any direct support for that k109g printer close as I find is k109a http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_ink_advant_k109a-z.html16:53
wyldepengemis: xfce with a bit of time spent tweaking can be made to look/feel like gnome216:53
ActionParsnippengemis: +1 for LXDE :)16:54
thunder1212sacarlson: so what next.. to do16:56
tomodohello16:56
tomodoI wanted to install wine on my 64 bit ubuntu install and this happens http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C61WkGUz16:57
tomodocan anyone give me some advice what to do about it?16:57
sacarlsonthunder1212: so is that the driver you installed?16:57
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auronandacepengemis: if you absolutely must have gnome2 then at the very least move to 11.04, it will be supported for a little longer (but in the end you will need to move away from gnome2 because it is dead (unless mate is supported by ubuntu by then))16:58
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Dr_willis tomodo  tell it to install? or was there something more specific...16:58
dannypretty much none of my browesers video players work and they did before16:58
compdoctomodo, whats wrong with that?16:58
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dannyhow do i fix this16:58
tomodoI'm worried about the 32 bit libs16:58
compdocfix what?16:58
tomodowhat if I remove my system16:58
tomodoby accident16:58
Dr_willis32bit libs are needed i belive for wine to work properly16:59
tomodook16:59
compdoctomodo, first I would do what it says. Run:  sudo apt-get autoremove16:59
tomodothanks you guys16:59
tomodooh16:59
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tomodoshould I do that?16:59
tomodowhat I remove something important16:59
compdocthat will stop the error at the top of that list17:00
tomodoI already pressed yes to install17:00
Dr_willissomeday you want to use autoremove to clean out unneeded stuff17:00
compdocthats ok - those unneeded packages will still be there17:00
compdocrun it after17:00
pengemisauronandace, hmm, right, 11.0417:00
auronandacepengemis: better to bite the bullet now and switch to a better desktop environment17:01
thunder1212sacarlson: no i downloaded the latest version from the hplip website and yes it was for the k109a- http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html(Download HPLIP 3.12.2:)17:01
scarykittiesHello!17:01
eye-gortomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.17:01
scarykittiesi'm having some trouble attempting to install Ubuntu for the first time.17:02
eye-gortomodo: this is multi arch at work17:02
gadienhaven't we all...17:02
tomodook17:02
tomodoI hope it's safe17:02
eye-gortomaw: it is17:02
eye-gortomodo: it is17:02
tomodoit's doing a lot of17:02
tomodoSelecting previously deselected package lib32ncurses5.17:02
eye-gortomodo: dont worry17:02
gadienscarykitties, whats the problem17:02
Dr_williswindows has trained him to be shy of information about what the pc is doing.... ;)17:03
compdocscarykitties, are you trying to dual boot some other OS too?17:03
scarykittiesBasically, I've tried multiple times to burn ubuntu to a DVD+R (from an ISO gotten from the torrent available on the Ubuntu website for desktop 32-bit of the latest version) and it verifies fine, but when I try to verify the disk on an installing computer, I always get "Error found in 1 files"17:03
scarykittiesNo, compdoc; I want a fresh install.17:03
compdocwhich file is bad?17:03
scarykittiesIt doesn't say17:04
Dr_willisscarykitties,  burning the cd iso to a dvd? or the dvd iso?17:04
angswhat is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?17:04
sacarlsonthunder1212: then you must have followed these instructions? http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html17:04
ActionParsnipscarykitties: tried a different CD brand? Are you burning as slowly as possible?17:04
gadienscarykitties, does your pc support booting from usb?17:04
scarykittiesBurning the iso to a DVD. I'm not aware of any distinction between a CD and a DVD iso17:04
scarykittiesYes, ActionParsnip17:04
scarykittiesAnd these DVDs should be fine; I've burned other stuff on them with success in the past17:04
compdocscarykitties, I think all you need is a CD17:04
Dr_willisscarykitties,  the default is a cd iso.  try it on a cd.. or try puttig it on a usb stick17:05
ActionParsnipscarykitties: tried USB?17:05
scarykittiesI'm not sure if my DVDs are always getting screwed up while burning, if this is some kind of Ubuntu bug (GOogle gets a few hits about this "bug", but with older versions, like 8 and 9), if my DVD-Drive on the computer is screwing things up somehow, or if my HDD is bad.17:05
Dr_willis!md517:05
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows17:05
thunder1212sacarlson: yesss17:05
dv310p3rI'm in ubuntu 10.10. Can I upgrade to the latest kernel 3.2?17:05
ActionParsnipscarykitties: you will need the DVD ISO to burn to DVD17:05
esuaveso i got a question.. if someone is editing the same crontab for the same user at the same time.. is there a way to prevent one person from overwriting the other?!17:05
scarykittiesWhere can I get that, Action?17:05
Dr_willis!download17:05
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Oneiric, and help keeping the servers' load low!17:05
ActionParsnipdv310p3r: yes but your OS will not be supported here17:05
sacarlsonthunder1212: sounds like you must have done it correct then,  I'm out of ideas17:05
pengemisauronandace, i just thinking to migrate to debian now.. lol17:05
scarykittiesSince when has different ISOs been required for CDs vs DVDs?17:05
dv310p3rActionParsnip, ok, but I'll be able to still run my current version of Gnome?17:06
ActionParsnipscarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso17:06
dannyand pandora doesnt load does anyone know why i cant use my browser to wacth videos and if u need more information what would u like me to tell you they just dont loud i either get a sry pandora is taking to long to loud or on another website the video will just be black17:06
ActionParsnipdv310p3r: there is a guide how to make 12.04/11.10 Gnome look like Gnome217:06
scarykittiesThanks, AP. But why should it not work on a DVD?17:06
scarykittiesAn ISO is an ISO, isn't it?17:06
auronandacepengemis: you will need to face the fact at some point that gnome2 will not be around forever17:06
ActionParsnipscarykitties: different data afaik17:06
Dr_willisscarykitties,  no.. :)17:06
scarykittiesAlso, have that in torrent, perchance?17:06
angswhat is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?17:06
eye-gorscarykitties: the dvd iso is a lot bigger and contains more stuff17:06
scarykittiesHm, alright...17:06
dv310p3rActionParsnip, I've seen it, but it's lacking majorly. The classic or fallback mode is missing stuff and it's just not the same. It doesn't feel the same.17:06
ActionParsnipscarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent17:07
netbusdanny: do you have flash installed??17:07
scarykittiesTHanks much17:07
Dr_willisYou really dont need the dvd at all scarykitties .  the cd is smaller and can byurn to a cd disk17:07
esuavehow can i make it to where only 1 person at a time can edit the crontab for a user?17:07
gadienscarykitties, i had a problem where i could'nt install cause i had NO cd drive, I DL'd the .iso file (latest-stable) DL'd LiLi (Linux Live) then the rest is self explainatory17:07
Dr_willisscarykitties,  usb installs are the way to go. :) faster.17:07
ActionParsnipscarykitties: I assume youo want 32bit17:07
scarykittiesYes, A17:07
scarykitties*AP17:07
dv310p3rActionParsnip, anyhow, thanks.17:07
dannynetbus, is that included in ubuntu restricted extras?17:07
ActionParsnipdv310p3r: then jump to xfce, it runs a lot like gnome217:07
scarykittiesSince 64-bit apparently lacks a lot of supported features.17:07
scarykittiesThere's a chance it is my DVD drive, though17:07
ActionParsnipscarykitties: never had an issue17:07
scarykittiesSince just before this, I was trying to install the Windows 8 beta (as a free OS I could use for now)17:08
Dr_willisscarykitties,  it does? never noticed 64bit lacking any supported features here.. its all i use.17:08
dv310p3rActionParsnip, I believe that may be the route I'm heading. Was just looking for options.17:08
scarykittiesAnd it had issues installing.17:08
compdocscarykitties, drives do go bad, but try the right media first17:08
netbusdanny; i don't rememember.  personally, i'd go straight to adobe, adobe.com/flash and download the latest flash player deb straight from their website.17:08
pengemisauronandace, actually, i don't really mind about gnome2, but my old gpu didn't support unity (yet-maybe)17:08
scarykittiesDidn't someone just say that there are features only the 32-bit version has?17:08
Dr_willisscarykitties,  not that i noticed...17:08
pengemisunity3d*17:08
eye-gorscarykitties: if the md5sum checks out then it's a bad burn. I used to use cdrw's before I switched ti usb stick17:08
angswhat is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?17:08
scarykitties<eye-gor> tomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.17:08
Dr_willisscarykitties,  some apps like wine, use the 32-64bit compatability libs.17:08
Dr_willisscarykitties,  thats not missing any features.. that IS a feature.17:08
scarykittiesAh, I see.17:08
io!repeat | angs17:09
ubottuangs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:09
scarykittiesWell, I'll start with 32-bit regardless17:09
scarykittiesI presume that 32-bit Ubuntu is still limited to 4Gb, just like 32-bit Windows is?17:09
scarykitties4Gb of RAM, that is17:09
Dr_willis!pae17:09
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info17:09
ActionParsnipscarykitties: you can use PAE and access up to 64Gb in 43bit OS17:09
esuaveaonyone?17:09
scarykittiesHm, alright.17:09
auronandacepengemis: can't really help you with that, i don't use unity and my nvidia is more recent than yours (but you could use unity2d with that card)17:09
dannynetbus, can u help me find a link cause i cant find a link to download a deb17:09
scarykittiesQuestion...17:09
scarykittiesHow do I learn all this stuff about Ubuntu coming in?17:09
eye-gorscarykitties: is it a 32 bit machine or 64 bit17:09
scarykitties64 bit machine17:10
Dr_willisscarykitties,  read read and more reading. :)17:10
scarykittiesDo I need to rely on IRC to learn how to do even most basic things?17:10
dannynetbus, and i use the chrome browser17:10
ActionParsnipesuave: you could change the ownerships to the user and no write access for any other user.17:10
Dr_willisscarykitties,  err.. theres 1000's of web sites out with guides and docs...17:10
bazhang!manual | scarykitties17:10
ubottuscarykitties: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:10
eye-gorscarykitties: then get the 64 bit edition. from 12.04 it will be the recommended version17:10
bazhang!rute | scarykitties17:10
ubottuscarykitties: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com17:10
netbusdanny: if you're using chrome, that's a different story.17:10
thunder1212sacarlson: this is very annoying.. thanks for all the help!! may be i will have to upgrade the distro.. the system does'nt have any data but there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..17:10
scarykittiesThanks.17:10
wyldescarykitties: noope, there are tons of tutorials, forums and blogs to read :)17:10
ActionParsnipscarykitties: just use the OS, as you play you will learn17:10
esuaveActionParsnip: well its the same user.. multiple people are logging on to the same user and editing the crontab17:11
ablyssnot all irc are equal17:11
netbusdanny: on the windows and osx chrome programs, flash is automatically maintained and updated by the browser17:11
ioscarykitties: take a look at: http://www.ubuntu.com/support17:11
bazhangscarykitties, those would be good places to start; also askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums17:11
gadienscarykitties,  yes. IRC  is a good start17:11
scarykittiesWhile I'm new as well, this is actually intended for my completely computer-illiterate father.17:11
ActionParsnipesuave: then give them their own accounts17:11
netbusdanny: it automatically updates the flash for you so..i'm not sure why your video isn't working.17:11
xanguanetbus: so does google chrome for linux17:11
dannynetbus, that means i just have to wait for an update :(17:11
dannynetbus, works fine on windows17:11
xanguanetbus: or were you refering to chromium¿17:11
scarykittiesI've heard Ubuntu touted as "super easy to use"17:11
netbusdanny: not necessarily, it could mean there's a setting or something that's not on17:11
scarykittiesI'm dubious of that, but I'll give it a shot.17:11
netbusxangua: chrome by google17:11
ActionParsnipscarykitties: it is for the most part17:12
wyldescarykitties: I got my computer illiterate aunt on Ubuntu about 6 months ago, she loves it :)17:12
scarykittiesLast time I tried Ubuntu, I gave up after I couldn't figure out how to even install programs.17:12
esuaveActionParsnip: they have their own accounts.. but everyone needs access to this one crontab since it has all processes in there.17:12
dannynetbus, ok any idea were i should look im in preferences rigt now17:12
netbusdanny: you could try installing flash for another browser, like firefox,17:12
pengemisauronandace, right, but example, we can't change font dpi in ubuntu with unity. i really need that to comfort my self when working with code17:12
scarykittiesGranted, that was 4+ years ago17:12
ioscarykitties: 'Software Centre' or use Terminal17:12
ActionParsnipscarykitties: software centre is for installing apps, in the past it was synaptic17:12
netbusdanny : get.adobe.com/flashplayer17:12
llutzesuave: have you ever tried what happens if you open several "crontab -e" and save?17:12
esuaveActionParsnip: is there not a way to lock the crontab file if someone is editing?17:12
eye-gorscarykitties: we got the software centre now  - select app the install simples17:12
scarykittiesProblem with Terminal is that you need to know what to type, and i don't.17:12
scarykittiesSo it's pretty useless to me17:12
dannynetbus, so i have to swicth browesers ?17:12
ActionParsnipesuave: I believe the OS does that with a semaphone17:12
esuavellutz: yes.. it just lets people edit all at the same time17:12
eye-gorscDont need terminal now17:12
ioscarykitties: also remember that the people here were not born using Ubuntu - everyone started somewhere17:12
netbusdanny: no, you shouldn't have to switch browsers. im just trying to trouble shoot.17:13
llutzesuave: yes, but not save17:13
netbusdanny: do you have all the latest updates/packages from the update manager?17:13
auronandacepengemis: i don't know how to change font dpi, but i'm not suprised if it isn't available in unity yet (i prefer xfce)17:13
esuavellutz: one person saves.. than the other saves overwriting any changes the 1st person made17:13
llutzesuave: it will warn if something changed inbetween17:13
compdocI was born using a C6417:13
esuavellutz: it doesnt warn me? :/17:13
dannyok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm17:13
scarykittiesI've used Windows basically all my life.17:13
eye-gorscarykitties: you can browse the software centre on line here. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-browse-the-ubuntu-software-centre-online/17:13
scarykittiesNo reason to switch because all the programs I use are for Windows natively.17:14
wyldescarykitties: it's worth getting to know the more common command line tools at least. If you're on IRC looking for support you'll likely get a few thrown at you anyway :)17:14
dannynetbus, ok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm17:14
ablyssesuave, cron first loads the file to memory and after about 5 seconds does it actually write to file17:14
ioscarykitties: so why are you here? :-)17:14
scarykittiesI'm just not interested in buying a 100-dollar OS for someone (my dad) who won't use it for anytihng but web17:14
eye-gorscarykitties: terminal not needed for installing apps17:14
dannynetbus, and yes i have been checking updates daily since this has happened17:14
atpa8ahello17:14
ActionParsnipscarykitties: eactly, thats why I use Linux17:14
llutzesuave: can't tell for *buntu, but on my debian systems you'll get a warning17:14
atpa8akinda basic ubuntu question i guess... http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration has both auto and allow-hotplug stanzas17:14
atpa8ais that common?17:14
OysterCultis Natty running GNOME or KDE?17:14
ActionParsnipOysterCult: both17:15
scarykittiesIf Microsoft had a more reasonable pay scale for Windows, I'd stick with Windows17:15
auronandaceOysterCult: by default unity, but you can use whatever desktop is in the repo17:15
ActionParsnipOysterCult: natty can run KDE in Kubuntu (by default) or Gnome in Ubuntu (by default)17:15
scarykittiesIt's crazy, but Windows XP pro still costs 250+ dollars. Windows 98 costs 100 dollars.17:15
thunder1212sacarlson: any permanant solutions to my previous issue of black screen17:15
scarykittiesAbsolutely ridiculous.17:15
pengemisauronandace, okay... maybe i need switch to another desktop environments, well thanks for the help :)17:15
eye-gorscarykitties: have a look here. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/17:15
ioscarykitties: that's why you're here, and there's Ubuntu ;-)17:15
ActionParsnipscarykitties: you can get 98 mini which boots fast and it quite cheap17:15
jeekONLY web?17:15
jeekTry xpud :D17:16
auronandacepengemis: no worries, don't worry, you aren't the only one who hates unity :)17:16
esuavellutz: right.. so the problem is.. i log on to the user on the box.. open the crontab and edit something.. while im editing, someone else hops on the same machine using the same user and edits the crontab...  i finish my changes.. and save the file.. but the other person still has the old crontab, makes his changes.. and overwrites my changes.17:16
scarykittiesYup, io.17:16
bazhanglets get back to ubuntu support please17:16
scarykittiesThanks, eye-gor17:16
andyboothBYE17:16
OysterCultthanks17:16
OysterCultso can I switch between the two and see what i like?17:17
ActionParsnipjeek: fun isn't it ;)17:17
ActionParsnipOysterCult: absolutely17:17
OysterCulthow can i do that/17:17
jeekAP: ?17:17
OysterCult?17:17
bazhangOysterCult, sure. any of them kde4, gnome, xfce4, lxde/openbox etc17:17
ActionParsnipOysterCult: you choose at login17:17
scarykittiesI understand the hate for Microsoft. Their price demands are ridiculous.17:17
ActionParsnipjeek: xpud17:17
scarykittiesThough I still dislike Apple more.17:17
ablyssesuave, kind of pointless to have multiple users for single user account17:17
bazhang!ot | scarykitties17:17
ubottuscarykitties: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:17
scarykittiesOh, sorry!17:18
scarykittiesI'll stick around for the inevitable questions that will come. Thank you guys!17:18
esuaveablyss: i agree.. but having one central crontab allows us to dump all of our processes in there and know which ones are actually running.. if we allow other users to create their own cron, we wont know or can change what they are running in their cron17:19
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esuaveablyss: unless your root..17:19
ActionParsnipesuave: or use sudo.17:20
ablyssesuave, what you need is to write to17:20
llutzesuave: workaround: use an editor which uses internal file locking, like emacs.17:20
esuaveActionParsnip: yeah but than we have to look in 10 different users crontabs to find running processes?17:20
ablyssseparate files and merge them into one cron17:21
esuavellutz: hmm.. interesting.. i will look at that17:21
thunder1212sacarlson: ??17:24
michaeltaxonhello, im trying to burn an iso image using k3b and im having all kinds of problems17:25
michaeltaxoncan someone please help me?17:25
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome as the desktop or do you use KDE17:26
michaeltaxonkde17:26
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: ok let me search17:26
llutzmichaeltaxon: mind to tell us, what "all kinds of problems" mean?17:27
michaeltaxoni tried all these settings17:27
michaeltaxonyou know17:27
michaeltaxonit didnt work for me17:27
llutzno17:27
michaeltaxonim trying to burn iso image17:27
llutz!details17:27
FloodBot1michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:27
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:27
michaeltaxonif i get specific i'd be flooding17:27
michaeltaxonso ill talk to you in main17:27
michaeltaxonin pvt17:27
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: if you install xfburn does it threaten to install a tonne of GTK libs?17:28
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michaeltaxoni havent installed xfburn17:29
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llutz!pm | michaeltaxon ask your question in channel, give full details using full sentences and full lines. (i don't read PMs)17:29
ubottumichaeltaxon ask your question in channel, give full details using full sentences and full lines. (i don't read PMs): Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:29
michaeltaxonoh my god17:29
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: try, if it doesn't install a lot of deps, try it and see if it's better.17:29
michaeltaxonforget talking in main, ill try to find someone else17:29
ActionParsnipmichaeltaxon: not noticed a pattern yet with PMing.....17:30
AufwindIf I try to ssh my computer from an other machine. It works only if I fired up Firestarter before and stoped the firewall. How can I tell my Firewall to accept ssh logins from other machines?17:30
AufwindWithout stoping the firewall?17:30
AufwindManually?17:30
thunder1212ActionParsnip: there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..17:30
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thunder1212ActionParsnip: any permant solution to the black screen17:31
llutzAufwind: add a rule allowing ssh/port 22 incoming17:32
Aufwindllutz, does the firewall restart automatically after each reboot, even when I disabled it before reboot?17:33
ActionParsnipthunder1212: what GPU do you use?17:33
llutzAufwind: idk, i never used this17:34
ActionParsnipAufwind: add a rule to allow port 22/TCP17:34
thunder1212ActionParsnip: intel gma450017:34
ActionParsnipthunder1212: are you fully updated?17:34
thunder1212ActionParsnip: u mean i install ubuntu 11.04 and then do an update??17:35
llutzAufwind: but if your "firewall" doesn't do what you want it to do, i'd remove it. it makes no sense to have it then17:35
llutzAufwind: get an iptables tutorial, write your rules, be fine17:35
MarKsaitisso can somebody help me? Or nobody knows a solution? I have vnc4server (tried tightvncserver too) installed, using hidden virtual desktops (the default). When I click logoff in my session, IT DOESNT DO A DAMN THING, DOESNT LOGOFF! FTW? Ubuntu 11.04 LXDE!!!17:35
ActionParsnipthunder1212: yes install the OS then get full updates, may help17:35
AufwindActionParsnip, How can I disable the firewall permanentely?17:36
Aufwindllutz, Thank you!17:36
ActionParsnipAufwind: you could wipe out the rules you added.17:36
AufwindActionParsnip, There is none. :-)17:36
ActionParsnipAufwind: which firewall do you use?17:37
AufwindActionParsnip, I just started the guy "Firestarter".17:38
AufwindActionParsnip, How can I tell which firewall is underneath?17:38
thunder1212ActionParsnip: but how do i install with a black screen when i can't see anything..17:38
llutzAufwind: all those GUIs are using iptables at the end17:38
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | thunder121217:38
ubottuthunder1212: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:38
ActionParsnipAufwind: I believe it's iptables17:39
llutzAufwind: so better to get an idea how to use iptables directly and write a rule-set fitting your needs. http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/security/iptables1.html17:39
thunder1212ActionParsnip: ok will try that thanks!!17:40
thunder1212bye..17:40
Aufwindllutz, Thanks for the links.17:40
angsdoes anybody know how to disable hardware check on ubuntu in the startup process?17:40
Tasmania_UbuntuDoes anybody know how to stop automatic hardware checking on Ubuntu?17:40
bekksTasmania_Ubuntu: Huh?17:40
bekksTasmania_Ubuntu: You mean "how to stop udev?"17:41
AufwindActionParsnip, llutz I can handle commandline and such quite well, but when it comes to configuration of my machine I am afraid to mess things up. ^^17:41
bekksYou dont want udev to be stopped :)17:41
wyldeAufwind: make a backup beofre editing :)17:41
angsI dont want ubuntu to check if I have monitor17:41
angsbecause I dont have:)17:42
Aufwindllutz, ActionParsnip I tried setting a rule. And it seems to work. I'll let the firewall be since I can ssh from other machines now. Thank you both for the advice. Appreciated it very much!17:42
angsbut ubuntu gives an error and says that I dont have monitor17:42
Tasmania_UbuntuIf I insert a USB into my computer it automatically checks the USB to see if it's in good condition before it puts it into use.17:42
bekksangs: Which error exactly?17:42
Aufwindwylde, That sounds like a good and trivial plan. I wonder why I have the idea, when I try to "quickly edit something". :D17:42
ActionParsnipAufwind: run:  sudo iptables -L      does it output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916319/17:42
wyldeAufwind: I learned the backup lesson the hard way :)17:43
wookhello folks, where to find good howto for editing /sbin/preinit17:43
wook?17:43
angsI dont have monitor now. the error was about "low graphic card" or something like this, I borrowed a monitor then restarted the pc, now I use teamviewer to control the ubuntu17:43
MonkeyDust!info preinit17:44
ubottuPackage preinit does not exist in oneiric17:44
bekksangs: Thats an error occuring when the monitor connected isnt capable of the graphics mode you wanted. Thats all.17:44
llutzAufwind: i'd take something like http://www.mista.nu/iptables/ to get a simple basic iptables-ruleset. then try to understand what it does and add you own rules.17:44
ActionParsnipangs: what do you do on the remote system?17:44
bekksangs: It doesnt stop Ubuntu from booting, loading, starting or functioning.17:44
angsI have windows717:44
angson the remote17:44
ActionParsnipangs: oic, so you control windows from Ubuntu?17:44
angsbekks: is it about BIOS or ubuntu?17:45
bekksangs: No.17:45
Aufwindllutz, This is great, thanks a lot for the link!!17:45
llutzAufwind: during the tests , let a cron-job reset all rules ever xx minutes. if all works, remove cronjob and use iptables-save/restore17:45
angsyes I use teamviewer17:45
bekksangs: It's about the monitor not being capable of the desired graphics mode.17:45
ActionParsnipangs: not used rdesktop then? Windows has remote accessibility built in...17:45
angsActionParsnip: I didnt know it, thanks I will use it17:45
AufwindActionParsnip, The printed list is much longer... But the entrys you pasted are among them.17:46
bekksWindows always have that...17:46
ActionParsnipangs: you just need to enable remote logins in the OS and you can use rdesktop. No need for extra sevrices on the windows side.17:46
AufwindActionParsnip, llutz My problem is solved. :-) thank you guys! I'll definitely have a look into iptables.17:46
angs<bekks: I get the error before connecting to the monitor, when the monitor is connected it works fine. however when there is no monitor, it doesnt work. I just wonder if there is any command/option that I can disable monitor checking in the start up?17:47
llutzAufwind: better not to rely on any additional confusion layer, aka GUI :)17:47
lesshastewhen I try to open a file in emacs I get "File exists :/dir/.emacs.d/"17:47
lesshastewhat is going on?17:47
eniltalFDoes anyone know if Gnome will be availible at all in 12.04?17:48
bekksangs: How do you see that error without a monitor connected?17:48
Dr_willis eniltalF  gnome is in 12.0417:48
wyldeeniltalF: Gnome3, Gnome2 is dead17:48
ActionParsnipeniltalF: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so it is already available17:48
Andy2113hey guys, I need some help. Last night my distro got super buggy. The screen got really messed up, it was all lines and nothing worked. (I'm on 11.04. Today I restarted my PC, and it isn't working properly. I had to access another version of Linux to be atle to type here17:48
Andy2113wtfff now I can't see anything I type/am typing17:49
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Andy2113gahhhh someone please PM me, I can't seeee17:49
eniltalFAndy2331: Sounds like your video card is wonky.17:49
michaeltaxoncan someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?17:50
Guest69604how do I install a  .tar.gz17:50
Tasmania_UbuntuDoes anyone know why my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBoc (emulator), starts with the number "10" Instead of "192"?17:50
michaeltaxoncan someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?17:50
Tasmania_UbuntuGuest69604, you need a archive manager.17:50
michaeltaxonin kubuntu17:50
angsActionParsnip: I tried to use remote desktop connection on windows 7 to connect ubuntu, I allowed the remote desktop connection on ubuntu. however I can not connect ubuntu from windows. do I need to install something or what?17:50
ActionParsnipGuest69604: the file could be source or binaries or something else. saying its a tar.gz tells use noting. Its just a compressed archive17:51
eniltalFtar -xvf <filename>17:51
lesshaste.emacs.d seems to be owned by root!17:51
lesshastewhat is the directory for?17:51
ActionParsnipGuest69604: what is the filename and where is it stored17:51
Dr_willissounds like you ran emacs as root lesshaste ?17:51
lesshasteDr_willis, hmm :)17:51
Guest69604ActionParsnip, easymp3gain17:52
michaeltaxondr willis17:52
michaeltaxonhi again17:52
michaeltaxonplease help me17:52
lesshasteDr_willis, I think I used sudo incorrectly.. how can I log in as a normal user using sudo?17:52
Zalmichaeltaxon, if k3b can't do it, probably nothing can.17:52
Guest69604angs, i use team viewer17:52
Dr_willislesshaste,  if you are root. use exit to un-sudo17:52
ActionParsnip!info easymp3gain-gtk | Guest6960417:52
ubottuGuest69604: easymp3gain-gtk (source: easymp3gain): GUI interface for MP3Gain, VorbisGain and AACGain. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (oneiric), package size 1651 kB, installed size 4560 kB17:52
lesshasteDr_willis, sure but how can I change to be some user using sudo?17:52
Dr_willismichaeljones,  theres dozens of iso burning tools in the repos.17:52
ActionParsnipGuest69604: why did you not search software cetre before needlessly downloading stuff online...17:53
Dr_willislesshaste,  i use su,   to switch to a differnt user.17:53
Dr_willis!burn17:53
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto17:53
llutzgrowisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso17:53
beandogxfburn is pretty simple17:53
zykotick9llutz: +1 on growisofs.  michaeltaxon17:54
lesshasteDr_willis, right.. but I want to use the root privs to do that without knowing the user's password17:54
ActionParsnipi love xfburn17:54
Guest69604ActionParsnip, I found it on How to geek never though to look17:54
Dr_willislesshaste,  never tried. Just root and my one user here. :)17:54
ActionParsnipGuest69604: use it for ANY installs, then start in the web17:54
Dr_willislesshaste,  check sudo man page perhaps.17:54
lesshasteDr_willis, :)17:54
skurceyHox caan i reboot and relunch mouse drivers please?17:55
skurceyhow17:55
ActionParsnipskurcey: unload then reload the module driving it17:55
Dr_willislesshaste,  with a user having an encrypted home. im not sure it can be done that way any more.17:55
ActionParsnipskurcey: most likely psmouse17:55
Oermichaeltaxon, if you are burning 12.04 ... it does not fit a regular 700 mb cd-r17:55
azertyuhello there17:55
azertyuis it possible to cancel an chmod ?17:55
lesshasteDr_willis, nothing encrypted here17:55
ActionParsnipazertyu: ctrl+C17:55
michaeltaxonoer please elaborate17:55
llutzazertyu: undo you mean? no17:56
OnkeltemHi all. How to make Chrome use sun java (not openjdk) on linux Ubuntu 11.10?17:56
Oermichaeltaxon, you need a 800 mb cd-r to burn .. or a dvd17:56
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: sun don't own java, oracle does17:56
OnkeltemActionParsnip: anyway, how?17:56
azertyui mean17:56
Dr_willis!java17:56
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.17:56
imb0redWould anyone mind helping me out? ~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195298117:56
azertyuundo chmod permission17:56
AaronDCampbellI'm trying out https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp which is pretty nice.  The main problem is that the system tray icon doesn't show in unity.  Is this a problem with the app, or a problem with my unity config?17:57
azertyupossible ?17:57
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: just symlink libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins17:57
AaronDCampbellThe main reason I ask is that it was a pain to get the Skype icon to show and I still can't get the pidgin icon to show either17:57
lesshasteDr_willis,  sudo -u user -i17:57
azertyui just done chmod -R 777 /17:57
azertyuas root17:57
Tasmania_UbuntuWhy is it that my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBox (emulator) starts with the number "10" instead of "192"?17:57
azertyui would like to undo how oto do ?17:58
llutzazertyu: backup your personal stuff, reinstall. that is the easiest way17:58
zykotick9Tasmania_Ubuntu: NAT of VBox uses 1017:58
Dr_willisTasmania_Ubuntu,  because vbox has its own private network. Check its docs/manual.17:58
azertyuwhy not possible to undo ?17:58
Tasmania_Ubuntuahh ok.17:58
Dr_willisazertyu,  reinstall eveyr file that got changed...17:58
Tasmania_UbuntuIs it possible to login with putty?17:58
zykotick9azertyu: there is no "undo", your system is probably pretty broken...17:58
scarykittiesOkay...17:58
llutzazertyu: theres no list of file/permission, so you have to "guess" what the correct permissions are.17:58
scarykittiesI'm trying to install the DVD 32-bit version of Ubunt17:59
scarykitties*Ubuntu17:59
scarykittiesI verified the disk; it's fine17:59
scarykittiesI get errors, though.17:59
ActionParsnipazertyu: the permissions are complex, it will take AGE to get it right. It'll give a good OS if you reinstall17:59
azertyuthat's one i know allready if i m here it is for new feature17:59
OnkeltemActionParsnip: I don't understand. I have sun sun-java6-plugin installed, but Chrome doesn't see it - just openjdk (via IceTea)17:59
scarykittiesFor instance, early on, I get an I/O error that says it cannot write files to a disk17:59
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: its not packaged now due to licensing17:59
scarykittiesThis is doing a clean install with everything being cleared out and going Ubuntu's default.17:59
Tasmania_UbuntuIs it possible to login to VirtualBox's private networks with putty?17:59
scarykittiesI don't think it would be the HDD that is broken because the HDD worked mere hours ago.17:59
wyldescarykitties: is it stopping the install process or jusr complaining?18:00
scarykittiesIs it probable that it is the DVD drive?18:00
wyldejust*18:00
scarykittiesIt stops the process18:00
zykotick9Tasmania_Ubuntu: yes, but you might want to ask in #vbox18:00
OnkeltemActionParsnip: I got the package, it was working week ago. Suddenly it stopped working and disappaered from chrome://plugins18:00
Tasmania_Ubuntukk.18:00
scarykitties"The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk"18:00
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: just symlink the .so to the plugins folder and you got it18:00
scarykittiesWhich certainly suggests an HDD problem, but the note says that it could be the DVD drive18:00
AcidRain2012Onkeltem: sounds like hax18:00
scarykittiesAnd it's hard for me to believe that the HDD would just die all of a sudden.18:00
Dr_willisTasmania_Ubuntu,  vbox machine works the same as a real machine plugged into the network.. the ip it gets depends on how you got vbox configured18:01
wyldescarykitties: do you have a usb stick handy? I have better luck with those than cd/dvd.18:01
scarykittiesIt was working with Windows 7 just 8 hours ago.18:01
scarykittiesI do, wylde18:01
Dr_willisscarykitties,  ive had HD's die while i was using them....18:01
AcidRain2012scarykitties: but hdd do just die all of a sudden, thats how they go out18:01
Tasmania_UbuntuI want to run putty on it though.18:01
Dr_willisclickclack-crash-dead18:01
michaeltaxoni really hate this channel18:01
scarykittiesDoes it require a working installation of Linux to work?18:01
Tasmania_UbuntuThen leave.18:01
AcidRain2012this channel hates you18:01
scarykittiesThere is no clicking or crashing, Dr.18:01
scarykittiesIt's just not installing operating systems18:01
scarykittiesBut that could be the DVD drive.18:01
AcidRain2012scarykitties: what type of errors do you get when installing?18:02
scarykittiesThe DVD drive isn't particularly responsive--barely notices me hitting the button to eject the DVD18:02
AcidRain2012are you sure you are doing "install now" and not "try it out"18:02
AcidRain2012;)18:02
scarykittiesThe error is an Input/Output error18:02
scarykittiesYes, I am sure, Acid18:02
wyldescarykitties: boot into a live session, you can fsck the system HD from there and create a boot usb as well18:02
Dr_willisIo error = not good...18:02
AcidRain2012ouch18:02
scarykittiesLet me try the live CD bit, then.18:02
AcidRain2012sounds like the drive is dead. lucky for you. ebay offers 2TB drives for like 100$ internal18:02
mrintegr1tyhi, does anyone know of a portable (for runners) heart rate monitor that works with ubuntu for downloading recorded data?18:03
ActionParsnip!java | Onkeltem18:03
ubottuOnkeltem: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.18:03
wylde!fsck | scarykitties18:03
ubottuscarykitties: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot18:03
beaglebreathanyone have a suggestion for a tutorial for connecting to this server via proxychains.  currently I've managed to install proxychains, and can use it from cli.  I've also got cap_sasl.pl script and can load it, and configure18:03
beaglebreath                      it.  Followed several howto's last night but I think I'm missing a step or18:03
mrintegr1tybeaglebreath: probably better off in #ubuntu-server18:04
bazhangbeaglebreath, #freenode might18:04
scarykittiesThe "try without installing" option doesn't work either18:04
scarykittiesGot the same I/O error18:04
AcidRain2012beaglebreath: proxies are hard to get ahold of now days i believe18:04
bazhangmrintegr1ty, pretty sure he meant irc server18:05
AcidRain2012scarykitties: i would take the drive out of your computer. and throw it against the wall. thats the only thing i know to do. if that dont make it work. then you need a new one18:05
dackyshawnhowever u can get a shell account and start your own proxy server18:05
wyldescarykitties: probably a bad burn or the optical drive is failing18:05
AcidRain2012hdd stop spinning when they fail. right? or at least sometimes they do18:05
dackyshawnscarykitties: sorry i just got here... you're having an I/O error?18:05
scarykittiesI get the same error over and over18:05
Dr_willisAcidRain2012,  normally.18:06
scarykittiesI've tried burning the DVD 3+ times18:06
dackyshawnscarykitties: whats the error?18:06
scarykittiesAnd always at a low speed and verify afterwrds18:06
wyldescarykitties: whenever you burn boot media to optical devices use the slowest speed possible. It really does prevent a lot of issues :)18:06
scarykittiesAnd it always verifies 100%18:06
scarykittiesAnd this time, I checked the DVD before attempting an install18:06
scarykittiesAnd it checked out with no errors18:06
AcidRain2012scarykitties: with that said then. i would listen to see if its spinning. you should be able to hear it18:06
Dr_willisid skip the optical drive totally and use a usb.18:06
scarykittiesSo as far as I can tell, the DVD is fine18:06
scarykittiesIt's spinning18:06
AcidRain2012also feel the vibration18:06
wyldescarykitties: ahh ok, what Dr_willis said :)18:06
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: I download the jre 1.7 tar.gz and extract it,copy the folder to /usrlib/jvm then run: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/bin/java 81; sudo update-alternatives --config java; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libnpjp2.so18:06
dackyshawnscarykitties: what is the error?18:06
scarykittiesBut I can't do a USB install if I don't have a Linux distro running18:06
dackyshawni had an I/O error as well18:06
scarykittiesAnd the Try before you install isn't working18:06
ActionParsnipOnkeltem: did mine today :)18:06
dackyshawnbut managed to find a work around18:06
scarykittiesI get an I/O error, ust liek when I try to install18:07
scarykitties*just like18:07
OnkeltemActionParsnip: thank! I'll try the same18:07
wylde!unetbootin18:07
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:07
wylde!unetbootin | scarykitties18:07
ubottuscarykitties: please see above18:07
Dr_willisscarykitties,  you put the iso on the usb properly, then boot the usb.. im not sure what you mean.. therew windows tools to do the task.18:07
Dr_willisyou can even image the iso to the usb with several tools.18:07
dackyshawnscarykitties: is that literrally all it says? I/O Error?18:07
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scarykittiesIt says "files cannot be written to hard disk"18:08
scarykitties"input/output error"18:08
dackyshawnah18:08
dackyshawnok18:08
scarykitties"This error is likely caused by a faulty CD/DVD drive..."18:08
scarykitties"... but could be a faulty hard drive..."18:08
scarykittiesetc. etc.18:08
dackyshawnnot always18:08
dackyshawnwhat kind of computer scarykitties ?18:08
scarykittiesThat's what it says18:08
scarykittiesCustom built18:08
dackyshawnhow new is it?18:08
OnkeltemActionParsnip: http://www.java.com/ru/download/ - here it offers to download 6  update 31 only...18:08
scarykittiesThe HDD drive was working not 8 hours ago with Windows 718:08
dackyshawnok what kind of motherboard are you using?18:08
scarykittiesThen I tried installing Windows 8 and got errors while trying to install18:08
scarykittiesSo I gave up and now am trying Ubuntu18:09
scarykittiesAnd again, errors18:09
scarykittiesI haven't used the DVD drive in some time18:09
dackyshawnscarykitties: what kind of mobo is it18:09
wyldescarykitties: likely the dvd drive then18:09
scarykittiesSo the DVD drive seems the more likely culprit18:09
scarykittiesUh... T-Poewr, dacky.18:09
dackyshawnwylde not true... always sometimes it's the SATA mode in the bios18:09
MonkeyDusthardware issue18:09
scarykitties*T-Power18:09
wyldescarykitties: you can use unetbootin to put the iso on a usb18:09
scarykittiesMobo worked perfectly with Windows 7 hours ago.18:09
dackyshawnscarykitties: it's a setting18:09
dackyshawni'm tring to get to18:09
dackyshawnwin7 may work with different SATA settings than ubuntu18:10
scarykittiesHm. Okay, well, let me get into the BIOS18:10
dackyshawnlike for example on my Dell i had it at one point set to ATA and tried to install ubuntu.. didnt work18:10
mneptokscarykitties: you might want to mg5sum whatever .iso you got18:10
dackyshawnonly when i changed the sata mode to acpi it worked18:10
mneptok*md5sum18:10
Dr_willisive seen similer issues dackyshawn .18:10
scarykittiesSATA 1 is set to "Compatible"18:11
scarykittiesIt's not the iso, mneptok18:11
scarykittiesI've tired 2 different ISOs18:11
scarykittiesAnd verified them all each time18:11
scarykittiesANd they all check out18:11
FloodBot1scarykitties: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:11
scarykittiesIt's unlikely that it's 3 broken ISOs in a row18:11
Dr_willistest the disk in a differnt pc. :)18:11
scarykittiesI verified it in this PC18:11
scarykittiesIT was fine18:11
Dr_willisthen again. if you are burnign them on a broken optcical drive.. its hard to tell.18:12
AcidRain2012scarykitties: check for bit versino18:12
wyldescarykitties: you could have already made and been booting a usb stick by now ;) hehe18:12
Dr_willisbest answer - use a usb flash. get away from optical media.18:12
scarykittiesYeah, but if the optical drive was broken, why does it verify without errors against the iso?18:12
mneptokscarykitties: you say that without checking. maybe the .iso is fine, and it's something about the burn of it. too fast? broken optical media?18:12
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dackyshawnor its the sata mode like i said18:12
scarykittiesIf it didn't burn right...18:13
scarykittiesWhy would it verify when I check it twice?18:13
dackyshawnscarykitties: did u look in the bios under the sata ports and see if there is a legacy mode or ACPI18:13
scarykittiesThere is an ACPI option, I believe18:13
dackyshawnok try selecting that18:13
scarykittiesSorry, dacky. It's hard to keep up.18:13
scarykittiesKay18:13
mneptokscarykitties: you say you cannot boot to a Live session without these I/O errors, right?18:13
dackyshawn(i dunno if it's gonna ruin win7 tho)18:13
dackyshawni mean u can change it back18:13
ZalMS already ruined Win7 ;)18:14
dackyshawnit wont hurt it that way, but it may not boot win7 ijn acpi18:14
wisniawho can help me with changing fonts in ubuntu?18:14
scarykittiesSATA #1 was set to IDE18:14
scarykittiesI set it to ACPI18:14
scarykittiesI'll let you know what happens18:14
scarykittiesThat's fine, dacky; I'm installing over Win718:14
AcidRain2012i have win7 dual booting with ubuntu. i hate that ubuntu can load, get on internet, and find what im looking for in the amount of time it takes me to load win718:14
scarykittiesYes, mnep18:14
ActionParsnipwisnia: use myunity18:14
scarykittiesCan't boot to live CD without I/O errors18:14
mneptokscarykitties: it may be ACPI settings generally, but not being able to access a particular SATA device in general should not affect a Live session.18:15
scarykittiesDoes that point to HDD problems or DVD problems, then?18:16
OnkeltemActionParsnip: where chrome plugins are located?18:16
wyldescarykitties: a live session doesn't even need a HD installed, so DVD18:16
scarykittiesPhew, that's a relief.18:16
wisniawhat is myunity?18:16
ActionParsnipwisnia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please18:16
scarykittiesI'd rather have the DVD be shot than the HDD18:16
AcidRain2012scarykitties: to know for sure. i would take it out, put it in another computer, mount it. then try to format it to ext3. if that works. the drive is good18:16
AcidRain2012:)18:16
scarykittiesDon't really have another computer to test it in18:16
wisniaoneiric18:16
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scarykittiesBut I do have a DVD drive in an old computer I will try in this one if this SATA settings thing doesn't work out.18:17
ActionParsnipwisnia: look in the top right of the screen, little cog. System settings is there. May help18:17
wyldescarykitties: have you considered the usb option? You could have had it made and almost installed by now :)18:17
AcidRain2012^ yep18:18
wisniaAction:no fonts changing option here18:18
ActionParsnipwisnia: then install myunity and run it18:18
AcidRain2012wisnia: i would also suggest the gnome2 shell that runs over unity18:19
OnkeltemDoes anybody know where Google Chrome plugins are located in Ubuntu?18:19
scarykittiesI would rather install from DVD because 1. it's simpler and 2. It guarantees the DVD drives work18:19
scarykittiesHm18:20
mneptokOnkeltem: ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Extensions18:20
scarykittiesOn ACPI settings, this Ubuntu has been "loading" the install for 5-10 minutes18:20
Onkeltemnmodprime: _plugins_18:20
scarykittiesSo something's still not right.18:20
Onkeltemnmodprime: sorry18:20
Onkeltemmneptok: _plugins_18:20
AcidRain2012scarykitties: do you actually have your dvd hooked up to the mobo by sata? ;)18:21
AcidRain2012i mean... you have to ask these things, never can be too sure18:21
wyldescarykitties: I get what you're saying, but doing the usb install will get you an ionstalled sytem that you can use to test the dvd drive.18:21
scarykittiesAlright, I'll tr18:22
scarykitties*try18:22
wyldescarykitties: and it won't hurt the installed system at all if you do have to replace the dvd drive.18:22
scarykittiesI'm trying to load the Live CD nonw18:22
scarykittiesBecause I need the Live CD to install from USB18:22
scarykittiesBecause my computer can't boot from a USB drive so far as I know18:22
wyldescarykitties: oh?18:22
Dr_willisand how old is this pc?18:23
ZalI can hardly remember the last time I installed from any removable media.18:23
dosfronterashey guys havin a lot of issues with ubuntu, in recovery it says"Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init"18:23
scarykittiesPC is maybe 2.5 years old18:23
Dr_willisi wonder what kind of pc can run windows7 and is so old it cant boot from usb.. :)18:23
dackyshawnreally? and cant boot from USB?18:24
Dr_willisthen again..make the usb and find out..18:24
dosfronterasalso, when i try booting 2 ubu, it keeps restarting18:24
scarykittiesMaybe it CAN boot from USB and I'm just pants-on-head retarded18:24
dackyshawnscarykitties: ACPI didnt work?18:24
scarykittiesAlways a possibility when we're talking about me18:24
dackyshawntoys in the attic.. you are crazy... truly gone fishing18:24
ActionParsnipdosfronteras: I suggest you run a memtest from the Grub menu....18:24
scarykittiesHold on, dacky. Still trying to determine that18:25
dackyshawnstill??18:25
dackyshawnsheesh.. if you worked for me u'd be fired18:25
dackyshawn;-)18:25
dosfronterashelp plz? i have no clue how 2 do that18:25
scarykittiesLive CD wants to know whether it should load a software package from a volume18:25
dackyshawnummm18:25
dackyshawni dunno18:25
dackyshawnno18:25
dackyshawnlol18:25
scarykittiesNo explanati on of what package from whta volume.18:25
FloodBot1dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:25
scarykittiesI said no18:25
scarykittiesNow it's just on a blue screen with a mouse.18:25
jeremiah_why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?18:25
dosfronterask running it..18:26
dackyshawnscarykitties: that sounds furthur than before18:26
scarykittiesIt is18:26
scarykittiesBut it's not doing anything so far18:26
dackyshawnstrange that it needs a special package tho18:26
dackyshawngive it a sec u r running from CD18:26
scarykittiesIt may recognize that I'd half-installed Ubuntu18:26
scarykittiesAnd it might be detecting stuff placed on the HDD and trying to run it.18:26
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: what other error did you get after the kernel panic? i just read on google that kernel panic is worse thing you can see from ubuntu while it is still operating18:26
dackyshawnshouldnt if u selected to run live cd without installing18:26
mneptokscarykitties: no.18:26
scarykittiesWell, then maybe I should restart and try again?18:27
scarykittiesBecause it's been on this blue screen for about 5 minutes, now.18:27
dackyshawnmaybe :-\18:27
mneptokscarykitties: patience.18:27
scarykittiesI don't hear the DVD spinning up18:27
dackyshawnor select yes next time it asks about package18:27
mneptokscarykitties: can you move the mouse cursor?18:27
dackyshawnit loads into memory i believe18:27
scarykittiesYes, mneptok.18:27
AcidRain2012yes, it loads into memory18:27
scarykittiesHm. Well, it's got 8Gb of DDR80018:27
joker404hi I need 10$18:27
dosfronterasactionparsnip, why am i doing this? Ubu always resarts. that packages were broken etc. cant even boot up ubu anymore18:27
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mneptokscarykitties: then it's not horribly frozen18:28
AcidRain2012joker404: what is your paypal? ill transfrer it over now18:28
joker404serious?18:28
mneptok!ot | joker40418:28
ubottujoker404: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:28
mneptokAcidRain2012: do not feed the troll.18:28
AcidRain2012mneptok: sry :(18:28
PsyCl0neAfternoon everyone, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop that has both Win 7 and Debian. I wish to get rid of Debian but maintain my Windows 7 install. In the installer how would I got about this? I am also trying to install 12.04 beta 2.18:28
dackyshawnFEED ME18:28
AcidRain2012i cannot feed trolls18:28
dackyshawn!ot | PsyCl0ne18:29
ubottuPsyCl0ne: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:29
dackyshawnPsyCl0ne: try #debian18:29
dackyshawn(if there is one)18:29
mneptokdackyshawn: what was that for?18:29
scarykittiesStill nada, so I'm going to give restarting a shot.18:29
scarykittiesIt shouldn't take 10 minutes to load a Live CD18:29
PsyCl0newhy would I have to go to debian for ubuntu help?18:30
AcidRain2012PsyCl0ne: you should see these options. isnt the loaders for each os installed on that same partition?18:30
jeremiah_why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?18:30
dackyshawnmy fault mneptok thought he was installing debian18:30
dackyshawnmis read18:30
mneptokPsyCl0ne: the Ubuntu installer will see the Linux partitions Debian created, and allow you to overwrite them18:30
dackyshawnhaha18:30
AcidRain2012the win7 partition shouldnt be touched18:30
dosfronterasi have no idea what the memtest does :/18:30
dackyshawnsorry PsyCl0ne misread your question18:30
dackyshawndosfronteras: tests your memory18:30
Drempleshi all :) I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive (perpetual) with FULL drive encryption, requiring a passphrase or key before it will boot etc18:31
mneptokDremples: yes18:31
dosfronteraswell yeah, but why am i doing it? was told 2 run it and dat was it.18:31
mneptokDremples: get the -alternate installer, and use it to install to USB. create the LVM/dm-crypt partitions you want/need.18:31
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dosfronterashow many tests does it do?18:32
Dremplesmneptok: thanks for the fast response! ... I was meaning to encrypt the whole usb drive, with only the required boot partition unencrypted (so it boots ofc) hehe, is this what you're referring to?18:33
llutzdosfronteras: infinite, if you don't stop it18:33
mneptokdosfronteras: also, when you boot, get to the GRUB menu with <esc> and try running an older kernel.18:33
zykotick9mneptok: is dosfronteras running grub-legacy?18:34
scarykittiesLiveCD worked this time18:34
dosfronterastried. they keep me in a reboot cycle choosing the OS18:34
scarykittiesWhat was the next step?18:34
mneptokDremples: yes. you'll need swap space encrypted with a random seed, and / and whatever encrypted with a passphrase. and yes, /boot should always be unencrypted.18:34
AcidRain2012you know with ubuntu. it runs great if you do it right the first time and you never have a problem out of it again. but the second something goes wrong, it could be very bad18:34
Dremplesmneptok: thankyou very much18:35
AcidRain2012scarykitties: if it worked this time, and not every other time. and you did nothing different, then that sounds even more like the hdd has failed18:35
codencrazyI'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install, the X graphical interface was working great, but the grub boot menu and virtual console was not, I'd get a monitor out of range error. I went and tried to change the gfx mode in `/etc/default/grub` based off a post from super-user, http://superuser.com/questions/66428/how-can-i-change-console-shells-resolution-in-ubuntu-9-10 and ran an `update-grub` and rebooted.18:35
wyldescarykitties:  yay! You can start the install from inside the live session if you want.18:35
codencrazyEverything in virtual console, all 6 sessions and GRUB, is working great now. But, now, X doesn't launch, when I hit ALT+CTRL+F7 everything looks ok, and it says `[OK]` all the way down the list. Any ideas?18:35
scarykittiesI'll try it, wylde.18:35
BobMarleyhi18:35
bazhangcodencrazy, #ubuntu+1 for that please18:35
scarykittiesCan i test the HDD somehow from this live version?18:35
scarykittiesTo see if it's bust or not?18:35
BobMarleywhat is the full path of the /var/logs  ?18:35
wyldescarykitties: but maybe make a usb first from the live session ;)18:35
scarykittiesSOmething about fdsiK/18:35
dosfronterasso basically allican do now is format. Great..18:36
wylde!fsck | scarykitties18:36
ubottuscarykitties: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot18:36
scarykittiesWorking on using Lili USB Creator to do that right now, wylde18:36
AcidRain2012BobMarley: im pretty sure that is the full path18:36
scarykittiesUh... o-kay, ubotto.18:36
jpsulliacontrol is showing in panel18:36
scarykittiesI'm sure I'll have questions. Be right back.18:36
BobMarleyi want to see the  MP tables or ACPI are the apic ids of the other cpus18:37
dosfronterasWAS ABLE TO boot o ubu!18:37
zykotick9BobMarley: but it's /var/log/18:37
dosfronterasi  need 2 fix dis18:37
scarykittiesNevermind.18:37
Descriptionedim using cygwin on windowsxp and i did chmod +x on afile but i get this message. ./start: line 262: ./unix: Permission denied18:37
jpsulliavolume control is showing in panel18:37
scarykittiesLiveCD is now in a crash loop.18:37
dosfronterasfiles are back....18:37
scarykittiesI can use the mouse for a while...18:38
jpsulliavolume control is not showing in panel18:38
scarykittiesThen it freezes for 10-15 seconds18:38
dosfronteraswtf is going on?!18:38
scarykittiesThen the screen goes black and the desktop comes up again.18:38
scarykittiesThen a few more moments, then another freeze, etc. etc.18:38
scarykittiesUntil finally it crashes to terminal.18:38
jpsullia?18:38
AcidRain2012zykotick9: but in all of my experiences, such as perl and php on a ubuntu system. it appears to never check for that last forward slash. i think it assumes18:38
dosfronterasi guess ill run the update manager18:38
dosfronterashoping for the best18:38
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: hold up dude. you need to back things up first18:39
AcidRain2012dont miss your chance18:39
zykotick9AcidRain2012: BobMarley mentioned /var/logS i was trying to point out there is no S18:39
jpsullia?18:39
jpsullia?18:39
AcidRain2012zykotick9: oh, i didnt catch the S18:39
level09what is the best video streaming server for ubuntu ?18:39
wyldescarykitties: ok, so it completed the usb or crashed trying to make it?18:39
dosfronterasdont have removable media18:39
scarykittiesWhich options should I select for the Linux Live USB Creator?18:39
bastidrazorlevel09: ushare does well.18:39
i7cjpsullia: stay calm.18:39
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dosfronterasim kinda S.O.O.L18:39
AcidRain2012level09: i like ices18:40
i7cjpsullia: which desktop?18:40
scarykittiesI didn't even try, wylde. It started crashing as soon as I began to move my mouse.18:40
level09bastidrazor:  cool, will check that out18:40
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: you need to step away from your computer, and go buy a 5$ 8gb memory stick18:40
Dr_willislevel09,  depends on what you are streaming them to.18:40
scarykittiesBut on this Win 7 computer that I am currently chattig on, i'm trying to make a bootable USB to install from18:40
jpsulliagn18:40
scarykittiesAs per links someone gave to me.18:40
wyldescarykitties: I don't suppose you have the ubuntu iso on the hd of that computer?18:40
level09Dr_willis:  I want to build a video streaming portal18:40
scarykittiesSo, what do I need to put into this Linux Live USB Creator to make an installing USB?18:40
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: but ive used ices to stream to cell phones, other computers, files. it works great18:40
scarykittiesNo, wylde.18:41
jpsulliaartistx 1.118:41
dackyshawnscarykitties: a usb storage device for one18:41
Dr_willis!info ices18:41
ubottuPackage ices does not exist in oneiric18:41
scarykittiesI got that, dacky.18:41
dackyshawnscarykitties: like a flash drive18:41
dackyshawnlol18:41
scarykittiesSo what settings do I put in this program?18:41
Dr_willisI just use ushare to stream to the other upnp devices on my lan.18:41
scarykittiesYeah, I got that.18:41
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: this is right, it doesnt exist. but you can make it work :)18:41
scarykittiesBut how do I make the install on a USB?18:41
dackyshawnscarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick18:41
dosfronterasacidrain2012, wat about ubu one?18:41
level09AcidRain2012: what is the official page for ices ?18:42
scarykittiesThat link someone gave me said to use this Linux Live USB Creator program18:42
wyldescarykitties: ok you're going to need the iso, to make the usb.18:42
AcidRain2012level09: i dont think it does have an official page.18:42
AcidRain2012level09: let me check18:42
i7cjpsullia: http://bit.ly/HkZd2X18:42
level09ah okay thanks18:42
wyldescarykitties: my bad, I ASSumed >.< you had it handy18:42
Dr_willispendrivelinux has tools to put the iso on pendrive also. for windows and linux. or you can just 'dd' the iso :) if you got a working linux system somewhere.18:42
level09AcidRain2012:  I was first planning to use ffserver and ffmpeg, then they said it does not support file streaming18:42
scarykittiesThat's what i"m trying to do, whoever-gave-me-that-link18:42
scarykittiesI can't keep up with the chat, heh18:43
bazhangi7c, never use that here18:43
level09what I want is to actually stream an existing library of video files18:43
scarykitties"The Oneiric ISO file no longer includes a file called usb-creator.exe in the CD image. You need to download Linux Live Usb Creator."18:43
scarykittiesI would love to, website, if I knew how the hell to do that.18:43
level09can I just use apache/ nginx to stream files ?18:43
AcidRain2012http://icecast.org/ices.php u are looking at ices018:43
i7cbazhang: lmgify?18:43
bazhangi7c, correct18:43
level09AcidRain2012: thanks18:43
i7cbazhang: mhm why not?18:43
bazhangi7c, its demeaning18:43
Dr_willisscarykitties,  so what OS are you on right now that you have the iso file.18:43
level09does any one know what youtube uses for video streaming ?18:43
AcidRain2012level09: but... documentation isnt that well for ices0, its kinda outdated. i only use it because it allows me to stream mp3 files. with some modifications, you can get it to stream anything.18:44
level09AcidRain2012: no problem, Ill give it a try18:44
ActionParsniplevel09: flash18:44
i7cbazhang: ok i won't anymore. the way he asked was unpolite as well, just for my defense.18:44
BobMarleywhy when i type :: nautilus .    in terminal nautilus is not oppening in the working directory of the terminal?18:44
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ActionParsnipBobMarley: try:   nautilus ./18:44
level09ActionParsnip: wow did not expect that18:44
AcidRain2012BobMarley: well i would try gksudo nautilus ./18:45
AcidRain2012:)18:45
dackyshawnlevel09: u didnt know youtube required flash??18:45
level09dackyshawn:  I was actually referring to streaming technology18:45
Dr_willisyoutube supports html5 for many videos now. :)18:45
level09the streaming server18:45
scarykittiesHere is where I am: http://i39.tinypic.com/153l1ep.jpg18:45
scarykittiesNow what?18:45
level09I know flash is on the front end18:45
dosfronterasacidrain2012, wat about ubu one?18:46
ActionParsniplevel09: you can use chromium and you won't need to install flash for youtube, or you can install minitube18:46
BobMarleygksudo nautilus ./  also is not working18:46
scarykittiesHow much size to I pick, what options, how do I make this an install and not just a live USB, etc.?18:46
ActionParsniplevel09: ohhh you mean the server technology?18:46
scarykitties*do I18:46
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: im not sure what your question is18:46
level09ActionParsnip: yes, streaming server18:46
Dr_willisscarykitties,  click the lighting bolt to tell it to put the iso on flash.. i hate that lili program .:) its so.. ugly18:46
scarykittiesI leave it at 0 Mb?18:46
level09ActionParsnip: I have video files on my server, and I want to serve them through a streaming server18:46
dosfronterasfor backing up files. Ubuntu one18:46
Dr_willisscarykitties,  persistant save is optional.18:46
scarykittiesAnd I want it to hide the files on the key?18:46
Dr_willisscarykitties,  optional...18:47
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: oh you mean that one thing called "ubuntu one"? the thing kinda like icloud. the hackers paradise? i dont use that18:47
wyldescarykitties: yes, unless you want to keep a persistant live install on the usb :)18:47
AcidRain2012but as a termporary storage for your backedup files. i guess it will do18:47
Dr_willisscarykitties,  id uncheck those features. you dont need them18:47
scarykittiesAlright, installing now.18:47
scarykittiesOh, little late for that one, Dr. Sorry.18:47
ActionParsniplevel09: may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube18:47
level09ActionParsnip: thanks18:47
Dr_willis'Linux Live Usb Creator' one of the ugliest programs ive ever seen. :)18:47
AcidRain2012scarykitties: what tool is that you are using? looks nice18:47
scarykittiesThen you've not seen too many, Dr.18:48
AcidRain2012lol18:48
dackyshawnlevel09: where would u like to stream them to?18:48
scarykittiesSure, it's a bit tacky, but at least it's not a crap 98-style application.18:48
dackyshawnover the web to a remote PC?18:48
dackyshawnor over the LAN level0918:48
scarykittiesIt's just "fancy" in the way that keygens often are.18:48
Dr_willisAcidRain2012,  looks like someone drank paint then puked.. interface has major issues also. :) but it does work at least.18:48
level09dackyshawn: no, to the internet18:48
level09dackyshawn: its a public video website18:48
dackyshawnlevel09: u could use VLC to do that18:48
dackyshawndepends18:48
Dr_willispendrive linux site has alternatives that work just as well.18:48
scarykittiesAnywho, what do I do once this USB drive is made?18:48
dackyshawnbut u should know unless u have a business line it could go really bad level0918:49
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: lol. yeah i know. but then again. i just havent ever used anything like that. ive always done it manually18:49
adriansiema18:49
scarykittiesPlug it into my computer and try to find BIOS settings for booting from USB?18:49
level09dackyshawn: why would it be bad ?18:49
level09dackyshawn: you mean expensive ?18:49
dackyshawnlevel09: what country do you live in?18:49
wyldescarykitties: yes18:49
level09dackyshawn: I'm in Dubai18:49
level09in UAE18:49
scarykittiesI presume that boot from USB option will show up in my BIOS after it detects a bootable USB drive?18:49
AcidRain201211.10 uses gnome and unity? :/18:49
dackyshawnlevel09: is that where u will be streaming from?18:49
Dr_willisAcidRain2012,  you can take the iso file. rename it to .img and use this tool to 'dd' it to flash in windows also. -- https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer18:49
scarykittiesBecause AFAIRC, that is not a default option.18:49
level09dackyshawn: nope, I'll stream from ec218:49
level09videos are on s318:50
Dr_willisscarykitties,  some pcs  need you to hit a key to make the menu appear. or check your bios settings18:50
dackyshawnyou may want to check their EULA for that streaming could be against it18:50
wyldescarykitties: very well might, how old is the computer? I have an amd 1.3Ghz here that will boot from usb18:50
dackyshawnbut vlc if it isnt can work...18:50
scarykittiesYeah, I know how to work with computers, at least the basics18:50
level09dackyshawn:  I dont think so, they even have an option in s3 to stream any file18:50
BobMarley i think that i know already what was my problem, i was loged in the terminal as a root, that i why i was unable to open nautilus in the terminal current direct18:50
scarykittiesI've built computers for years, but I've not worked with Linux and the way it does things18:50
MarKsaitiswhen u ppl say stable distro gets bug updates... does it also mean stuff like lubuntu-desktop get bug updates too? I have a bug here which is I believe 2 years old in 11.04 to do with lubuntu-desktop, and is STILL HERE. VERy OBVIOUS ONE http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/9218/solved-is-lxsession-needed-in-openbox-lxde-compatibility-issue/ <<<----------- this one, GOD DAMN IT. Where are these bug fixes?18:50
scarykittiesSo I'm not familiar with any of this stuff.18:50
level09dackyshawn: thanks for that, I'll check VLC server18:50
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: nice18:50
Dr_willisNo idea whyt these pc makers cant agree on a standard key to select a boot drive menu.18:50
zetsuboudevSome PCs, in the BIOS the USB option will be listed as a HDD. In which case, you need to update the HDD boot order.18:50
bazhangMarKsaitis, thats not necessary18:51
Dr_willisive had to put little stickers on all these differnt pc's keyboards so i can rember which key to boot from usb.18:51
scarykittiesUSB should be ready. I'll be back.18:51
TaekGood Morning #Ubuntu18:51
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: so according to this. i can install ubuntu on an sd card. and keep it in my phone and just use a safe android writting partition until i need ubuntu, then while im at a friends house, and he says to me 'man i hate windows, wish i had ubuntu!' i can be like 'bam!!!! got it right here on this sd card'18:51
KrazypolocHey guys18:51
MonkeyDustTaek  other timezone18:51
MarKsaitisit is. Everybody said to me all the day long, 11.04 is stable, gets bug fixes etc.... but this one, very obvious few years old bug, still here. Where are these updates?18:51
dackyshawnlevel09: also for best performance you should use a VSI...  Video Script installer18:52
bazhangMarKsaitis, the language is not18:52
dackyshawnlike PHPMotion18:52
TaekStill  morning in  california for another few minutes.18:52
KrazypolocHaving issues with a dual NIC virtual server setting the IP for the second NIC18:52
dosfronterashow do I remove a package? I need o remove tixati, i think thats my problem18:52
dackyshawnlevel09: here's an example:  http://www.cirtexhosting.com/video-script-installer.shtml18:52
Krazypolochttp://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS18:52
MarKsaitisbazhang, whats the difference, if nobody cares ever anyway18:52
dackyshawnthis is just a company that ofers that, but should be similar with amazon's cloud18:52
AcidRain2012dosfronteras: sudo aptitude remove tixati18:52
Dr_willisAcidRain2012,  you could.. if his pc can boot from sd.. but a sd is slow also.. my netbook has xbmcbuntu on its sd for my video watching. :)18:52
KrazypolocThat should work for eth1 correct?18:52
dackyshawnassuming u like paying for bandwidth ;-)18:52
AcidRain2012but idk if thats your prolem18:52
MarKsaitiseverybody says that everything works and is stable, but nobody cares :)18:52
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: good point18:53
level09dackyshawn: nice , reading ..18:53
bazhangMarKsaitis, this is the wrong channel for rants. follow up on the bug18:53
dosfronterask i says"building dependency tree" but nada else18:53
MarKsaitisIm saying to all the ones which say "stable distro gets bug updates", no it doesnt, not even the obvious ones in everyday life scenarios18:54
AcidRain2012Dr_willis: i know its a little off topic, but you seem to be the man for this. and i know that android is a linux based phone. but will we ever see a phone that is "more" like ubuntu? such as interface, and gui functionality?18:54
MarKsaitisfullstop18:54
KrazypolocIf I set the IP through "ifconfig eth1 10.0.11.6" it sets the IP and it works fine....but the interface config hangs the system on reboot18:54
dackyshawnlevel09: http://www.phpmotion.com/  <-- since you have your own hosting server with bandwidth that may be more helpful18:54
bazhangAcidRain2012, #ubuntu-phone18:54
zykotick9Krazypoloc: typo alert.  "auto eht1"18:54
MonkeyDustMarKsaitis  please type /join #insultUbuntu18:55
Taek:D18:55
Rapid2214Krazypoloc: Setting it using ifconfig will not save the IP address to the config18:55
KrazypolocYes I know18:55
level09dackyshawn: thanks, but I really want to stay away from php these days :D18:55
Dr_willisAcidRain2012,  theres a ubuntu phone in the works.18:55
KrazypolocI'm stating that my ifconfig works...the config file does not18:55
bazhangMonkeyDust, thats not helping18:55
level09would prefer a python based solution18:55
MarKsaitiswhatever, it's obvious what I said,  DE factO18:55
dackyshawnlevel09: lots of options that was just one...  but there are thousands18:55
Rapid2214Krazypoloc: Pastebin your interfaces file18:56
Krazypolochttp://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS18:56
angswhat is the command to see the currently running proccesses?18:56
Krazypoloctop18:56
dackyshawnlevel09: u could also check out http://clip-bucket.com/18:56
level09dackyshawn: yeah, that's the problem, I think I'll just choose one and try it out. . VLC seems like a good start18:56
Rapid2214angs: ps aux can also be used18:56
llutzKrazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"18:56
zykotick9Krazypoloc: it's your interfaces file with the typo18:56
jakoalguien que me ayude18:56
dackyshawnVLC is ok, but compression isnt the best i've found18:57
level09dackyshawn: the thing is , I'm more concerned about the streaming server itself, I will build the script myself later18:57
KrazypolocWhat should it read?18:57
llutzKrazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"18:57
Rapid2214eth1 :)18:57
KrazypolocSHould be "auto eth0:1"?18:57
level09I am starting to believe that you can stream anything using any server18:58
wyldeeht1 --> eth118:58
llutzKrazypoloc: can't you read? change it into "auto eth1"18:58
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wyldeslysdexia ftw! >.<18:58
scarykittiesWhen starting an install, Ubuntu often goes to a screen that looks like white nose.18:58
scarykittiesWhat would cuase that?18:58
Dr_willis!nomodeset18:59
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:59
scarykittiesColored white, red, green, and blue dots interspersed in a noise pattern.18:59
Rapid2214scarykitties: Is it for a long time?18:59
scarykittiesIt's been for about a minute so far.18:59
scarykittiesIt happened once before18:59
scarykittiesThis is me installing from the USB stick this time18:59
scarykittiesOr attempting. IT hasn't gotten to the actual install screen yet18:59
Dr_willistry the nomodeset option above scarykitties . if it fails to boot.18:59
scarykittiesWhat?19:00
wyldescarykitties: be patient, it's faster than optical drive install but not as fast as if it was running from HD19:00
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scarykittiesIt booted.19:00
scarykittiesBut after I selected "install" I get a screen with noise19:00
Taek! nomodeset | scarykitties19:00
ubottuscarykitties: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:00
Dr_willissome video cards can be confused and need the nomodeset option19:00
Dr_willisati - often does. some nvidia does also.19:00
scarykittiesUgh19:00
scarykittiesThis is why I don't like Linux.19:01
dackyshawnlol19:01
Dr_willisnot needed the fix in 12.0419:01
scarykittiesThis is taking far longer than it should19:01
* Dr_willis is reminded of taking 3 days to reinstall windows last month....19:01
dackyshawnscarykitties: could be a between the chair and keyboard interfacing problem19:01
scarykittiesOkay, I'll give it another shot.19:01
TaekI  have good reasons to not like linux, but it's good or rooting android devices.19:01
scarykittiesI get it, dacky.19:01
scarykittiesYou're saying I'm a clueless twit.19:01
wyldescarykitties: almost everything takes longer when you're unfamiliar with it, doesn't matter what it is. Linux, knitting, dancing etc etc. lol19:01
dackyshawnscarykitties: no i didnt say that19:02
MarKsaitisis there something better lightweight than lxde? I mean what is the point of using latest stable lxde on 11.04 if it actually does not work?19:02
Taek!vhost19:02
Taekhmm I want a custom vhost..19:03
bazhangTaek, cloak on #freenode19:03
TaekThanks19:03
Krazypoloc@llutz thats what its currently set to19:03
KrazypolocWhat am I missing here?19:03
llutzKrazypoloc: its not, read carefulle19:03
scarykittiesnomodeset seems to have prevented a noise screen at least this time.19:03
llutzfully19:03
Dr_willis!info jwm Lighter then lxde.. less features also. :)19:03
ubottu'Lighter' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, unstable19:03
scarykittiesBuuut that noise screen didn't happen every time, anyway19:03
Dr_willisoops.. heh19:03
llutzKrazypoloc: "auto eht1" != "auto eth1"19:03
scarykittiesOnly twice out of the 7-8 times I tried19:03
Kaizencan anyone recommend a really lightweight socks proxy?19:04
Dr_willisscarykitties,  thats even weirder.19:04
devicenullI'm trying to setup a net install system.  How do I disable ipv6 in the installer? (I have no ipv6 support, there's no reason to even attempt autoconfig of it)19:04
KrazypolocDOH!!19:04
KrazypolocThanks guys19:04
KrazypolocI'm retarded....19:04
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scarykittiesDamn it.19:06
scarykittiesGot another I/O error19:06
scarykittiesSo it's the HDD, then.19:07
scarykittiesOdd that it randomly died out of nowhere when it was working perfectly hours ago.19:07
scarykittiesIt worked fine in Wind 719:07
scarykitties*Win 719:07
scarykittiesWhen I started trying to install other OSs, suddenly it doesn't work.19:07
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Zalscarykitties, does it work reinstall win7?19:07
scarykittiesI'm not going to waste time trying.19:07
Zalto* reinstall that is19:07
bekksYou dont have to reinstall all the time just because somethings broken.19:08
Zalbekks, um, that isn't really the point19:08
dysocoI need help: I installed "ruby-rvm" but failed, now I can't install any package via apt-get because it keeps throwing me an error about ruby-rvm... any ideas ?19:08
bekksAnd a broken hdd cant be foxed by reinstalling the OS.19:08
bekksZal: Thats the point.19:08
scarykittiesI know ,bekks.19:08
Zalbekks, the point is to determine IF the hdd is broken. Win7 worked fine previously; if it does so again, it's not the hdd19:09
scarykittiesI'm not trying to fix an HDD by reinstalling an OS19:09
bekksscarykitties: Didnt say you do.19:09
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scarykittiesI'm trying to reinstall an OS, but am learning the HDD got screwed somewhere along hte lines.19:09
scarykittiesApparently19:09
bekksZal: Thats not true at all.19:09
scarykittiesI'm installing using IDE on the SATA again, by the way19:09
scarykittiesThere was no ADPI or whatever setting19:09
scarykittiesIt was ADCP or something like that19:09
bekksZal: Unless it uses _exactly_ the same sectors Ubuntu does, you cant verify it.19:09
scarykittiesI misread.19:09
bekksscarykitties: ACPI19:09
scarykittiesRight19:10
scarykittiesACPI19:10
scarykittiesDon't know what that means, but a'ight19:10
scarykittiesIt's not an option, anyway.19:10
bekksWhy not?19:10
scarykittiesBecause it doesn't show up.19:10
scarykittiesIn the BIOS19:10
scarykittiesAs an option19:10
bekksEnter is not a punctuation sign, please :)19:10
Zalbekks, modern linux filesystems are smart enough to avoid one or two bad sectors. That's an entirely different thing than a broken hdd19:11
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Andy2113guys, anybody that's familiar with deluge torrent client, I need help. How do I remove the queue from my seeds? I want to keep seeding, not be queued :/19:11
scarykittiesSo is there some other BIOS setting that could be preventing Ubuntu from installing on the defaults, or is it definitely an HDD issue?19:12
bekksZal: Instead of using useless reinstalls, you just can use "smartctl" to determine wether the disc is broken.19:12
Zalbekks, sure, if you can boot19:12
bekksscarykitties: Use smartctl from a livecd to check.19:12
scarykittiesHow do I do that?19:12
bekksBy booting a live cd.19:12
wyldescarykitties:  or usb19:13
scarykittiesCan I boot from the live USB?19:13
scarykittiesAlright19:13
scarykittiesOkay, doing that19:13
Andy2113Anybody know how to remove queued seeds from a torrent with deluge?19:14
scarykittiesOkay, it's loaded to Live mode19:14
scarykittiesNow what?19:14
bekksscarykitties: Now use smartctl -a /dev/yourharddisc19:14
zykotick9dysoco: can you give any error output?  "sudo apt-get -f install" is the gerenal, attempt to fix apt automajically.19:14
scarykitties"use" as in...?19:14
scarykittiesType it somewhere? Where?19:14
bekksscarykitties: In a terminal.19:15
scarykittiesAnd how do I pull up terminal?19:15
zykotick9Andy2113: check if there is a max upload option somewhere19:15
bekksBy starting it.19:15
scarykittiesIs it an obvious option somewhere?19:15
bekksscarykitties: Yes.19:15
bazhangcontrol alt T scarykitties19:15
wyldescarykitties: ctrl+alt+t19:15
scarykittiesOp, can't19:15
bekksscarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools19:15
scarykittiesUbuntu's in its lovely crash loop again.19:16
scarykittiesCan't do anything.19:16
Zalscarykitties, maybe your problem is with bad RAM, rather than a failing hdd19:16
scarykittiesWhat is the use of an OS that you can't do anything with without a working Internet connection so you can look up documentation on how to do even the most basic things?19:16
zatanHi how can I create grep alias which one exclides folder ? alias cgrep="grep -ir --exclude-dir='media/' ."    I have got this one but i wan something "cgrep -ir "blabla" .19:16
wyldescarykitties: that IS a possibility, a failing HD would have nothing to do with running a live session.19:16
scarykittiesPossible, Zal, though I ran about half of a memory test without anyerrors19:17
Zalzatan, write a bash function19:17
bekkszatan: Then omit the .19:17
bekkszatan: Unnecessary.19:17
Escherialhey, does anyone happen to know why, in ubuntu 11.10, adding programs to the launcher just displays an invisible space rather than the program's icon?19:17
gadienHello, I have a usb drive that I can't safely remove and I closed the programs I thought were using it. what can I do?19:18
Zalbekks, you misread. He wants to change he exlcude dir, not the search dir.19:18
Escherialalso, the quick launcher (invoked from pressing the "windows" key) is quite slow...is there any way to improve it?19:18
Louis11I've developed an application that allows a user to interact with the system tray icon. It works in KDE, Gnome, and XFCE but fails in Unity. Does Unity prevent "mouse over events" ?19:18
scarykittiesI'll run a memory test from the Ubuntu DVE19:19
scarykitties*DVD19:19
scarykittiesThough I don't see why my RAM would suddenly die over the past 8 hours when I began trying to install a new OS19:19
scarykittiesIt worked perfectly in Win 7 just 8 hours ago19:19
Taekuse memtestx86 :D19:19
scarykittiesDon't know how to do that19:19
BobMarleyfrom where i get the mp tables?19:19
Dr_willisscarykitties,  with that logic nothing should ever die.. :)19:19
scarykittiesThe logic is based on things showing signs of failure before failing, Dr.19:20
Zalscarykitties, probably you're just lucky that way :)19:20
scarykittiesThe assumption that things wear down before they fail entirely.19:20
Dr_williselectronics dont normally fail that way.19:20
scarykittiesYeah, I've luckied myself $2000 dollars poorer over the past week thanks to hardware issues.19:20
Dr_williscar brakes. yes.. :)19:20
scarykittiesAnd my patience is about [] this thin.19:20
wyldewell that's better than || <-- this thin ;)19:21
scarykittiesI'm running a memory test19:21
dysoco|laptopI'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? It's an error with "dpkg-statoverride"19:21
scarykittiesIf that memory teast whoever-it-was suggested requires running from the live LC19:21
scarykittiesThen I reiterate that the problem is that the Live CD doesn't work19:21
scarykittiesPotentially due to memory issues19:21
scarykittiesHence the need to run the test.19:21
Dr_willisput the hd in a differnt pc. and install to it.. then move it back. :)19:21
Dr_willisdone that in a few cases in the past.19:22
scarykittiesI don't have a idfferent PC to put it in19:22
Dr_willisyou could even image the iso to a spare hd. plug them both in. install from one to the other.. then remove the iso image hd..19:22
Dr_willisbut thats getting a bit 'weird'19:22
Dr_willisit was REAL fast when i did it that way.19:22
Zalif you really want to be sure it's broken, and not just guess, smash it with a hammer.19:23
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MarKsaitishow do I remove lubuntu-desktop?!?!?!19:24
MarKsaitishelp19:24
scarykittiesInstall Windows instead.19:24
bazhangMarKsaitis, and leave what19:24
dysocoMarKsaitis, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop ?19:24
MarKsaitisno, seriously, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop19:24
bazhangZal, thats not helping19:24
scarykittiesOh, what's lubuntu? I dunno. Sorry.19:24
MarKsaitisdidnt work19:24
scarykittiesThought it was a type of ubuntu19:25
scarykitties*typo19:25
bekksMarKsaitis: "didnt work" means what?19:25
Dr_willisMarKsaitis,  its a meta package - so removeing it will NOT remove everything it pulled in when it was installed.19:25
bazhangMarKsaitis, what else do you have installed19:25
MarKsaitisI said yes at a prompt, restarted server etc.... but if I do vncserver and connect over vnc, I still get the interface19:25
dysocoI tried to install "ruby-rvm" wich failed, now I can't install any packages via apt-get, because I get errors with "dpkg-statoverride"... any ideas ? I can paste the error, but it's in Spanish19:25
MarKsaitisDr_willis, omg, how rude..... so how do I get rid of it all together then?19:25
Dr_willisremoveing the lubuntu-desktop package will not remove the lxde enviroment.19:26
TaekI should setup vpn though my sever19:26
MarKsaitisomg, this is rude, how do i remove all tha tcrap then?19:26
Dr_willisyou remove the packages with the package manager.. meta packages make things easy to install.. not remove.19:26
Zalbazhang, oh I dunno, scarykitties seems kinda frazzled. A little humor can sometimes calm a guy down a bit.19:26
bazhangMarKsaitis, do you have another de installed19:26
bazhangZal, #ubuntu-offtopic for jokes19:26
MarKsaitisI do not have any DE installed, dont need any19:26
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Dr_willismeta-packages are just a work around for having an easier command to install a 'desktop' or other 'group of packages'19:27
bazhangMarKsaitis, no one is being rude to you19:27
MarKsaitiswhy metapackages don't end with package-meta or smth... if I ever knew19:27
scarykittiesYeah, I'm more than a little PO'd, but I'm trying not to take it out on you guys. I do appreciate the help, but I'm frustrated.19:27
MarKsaitisI have downloaded 1 GB of crap and I now don't know how to get rid of it19:28
MarKsaitisit's like "no way back", just sweet19:28
Zalbazhang, ok, that makes little sense to me, but I'm guessing you're an op, enforcing a "no jokes" rule, so I will be dead serious from now on. My apologies.19:28
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove whatever   or use aptitude19:28
Artemis3MarKsaitis, if you install lubuntu-desktop, it will pull many packages. but if you uninstall it, the packges it pulled will remain19:29
Dr_willis!puregnome19:29
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome19:29
Dr_willisi rarely uninstall stuff. :)19:29
bazhangMarKsaitis, just follow the puregnome steps, but dont install ubuntu-desktop19:29
MarKsaitisI dont want any gnomes inside my pc19:29
MarKsaitis=)))19:29
bazhangMarKsaitis, thus why I said DONT install ubuntu-desktop19:30
MarKsaitisanyways, what a shame and waste of space =)19:30
Dr_willisrandom comments are random.19:30
Artemis3MarKsaitis, just pick your favorite desktop or window manager and start removing packages, usually removing lxde will do19:30
bazhangMarKsaitis, read the link19:30
Dr_willisYou installed them. not us. :)19:30
MarKsaitisok, how do I remove lxde?19:30
Dr_willis!info lxde19:30
ubottulxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-4ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB19:31
dysoco|laptopI'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? http://pastebin.com/gjpMYuXJ19:31
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove whatever19:31
Artemis3yes start removing lxde-common, that will want to remove others, and so on19:31
zambai have a problem with a ubuntu server not booting. i'm dropped into initramfs.. looks like the problem is related to /dev/mapper.. what can i do?19:31
zambaedit /etc/fstab?19:31
Dr_willisapt-get supports wildcards :) but be carefull with that19:31
bazhangthe !pure link gives a lot to remove19:31
scarykittiesI'm gonna go with someone's suggestion and try installing Win 7 again. If it works, I'm just going to stick with it, because why not?19:31
gmachine_24running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized19:31
MarKsaitisso lubuntu-desktop is metapackage, lxde is metapackage..... so how many hours do I need to scientifically study these metapackages within metapackages to just remove that beast?19:31
scarykittiesBut I'll stay around to let y'all know if the memtest shows up errors in the RAM. None so far.19:32
bekkszamba: First, provide the error in a pastebin :)19:32
Artemis3you could also see the list of packages installed by lubuntu-desktop (its in the ubuntu packages web)19:32
snamahello19:32
bazhang!purexfce19:32
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »19:32
MarKsaitisI mean linux for server - ok, but for your laptop - u got to be noob =)19:32
zambabekks: only a screenshot.. but i'll transcribe it19:32
Zalscarykitties, memtest can take many hours to find errors in some cases.19:32
gmachine_24snama, ask your question or state your problem19:32
scarykittiesIs there a quicker way, Zal?19:32
bazhanghttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce   MarKsaitis read the part about removing lubuntu on that link19:33
Zalscarykitties, none that I know of that are as reliable.19:33
Artemis3MarKsaitis, it might be easier and faster to just reinstall ubuntu minimal (f4 for command line only) then install the packages you want19:33
MarKsaitisbazhang, yeah im going to xfce19:33
scarykittiesIf the memory is shot, shouldn't the errors be more persistant than Ubuntu not installing?19:33
Dr_willisnot like having lubuntu and xubuntu both installed are going to take a lot of space...19:33
scarykittiesShouldn't there be random crashes left and right?19:33
bazhangMarKsaitis, you dont need to, just dont install a DE at the end19:33
scarykittiesOr hang-ups of all kinds?19:33
ziyadbHello! I just got a new TV, and am using VGA input. The Ubuntu system settings list it as an "unknown" display and has set the resolution to 1024x768 (4:3). How can I make it better recognize the display or override the detection mechanism? The display is 1920x1080.19:34
zambabekks: http://pastie.org/373477819:34
gmachine_24scarykitties, bad memory can cause all sorts of problems - mostly unpredictable19:34
Dr_willisziyadb,  cant set it up to use hdmi?19:34
snamaI have a bit annoying issue, not really big but still annoying.        SO. when I do a fresh boot or a after a reboot and login with LightDM into a XFCE Desktop (ubuntu variation of Ubuntu-Studio if that makes any difference),  my keyboard keys of 'e' and 'p' do not work. only after I log out back to lightdm and log in again do they work. has anybody experienced anything like this?19:34
ziyadbDr_willis: no HDMI out on my computer unfortunately.19:34
Artemis3scarykitties, run memtest and leave it a whole pass (can take an hour or so)19:34
Dr_willisziyadb,  sad. with hdmi it should  work automatically19:34
gmachine_24snama, perhaps you should seek help from the ubuntu-studio people - or is that handled here?19:35
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hex`Where is located "DavLockDB" (apache2 module) on ubuntu? I already searched for almost every word but still I can't find it.19:35
Dr_willisziyadb,  what video chipset?19:35
Dr_willis!find DavLockDB19:35
ziyadbDr_willis: of course. There isn't a reason (aside from detection issues) that would prevent me from using 1920x1080 on VGA, yes?19:35
ubottuPackage/file DavLockDB does not exist in oneiric19:35
MarKsaitisbazhang, I get errors with unable to find this and this package19:35
MarKsaitisa nightmare19:35
MarKsaitisomg19:35
ziyadbDr_willis: how do I check?19:35
Dr_willisziyadb,  not sure. i havent used vga in years.19:35
snamagmachine_24, the thing is that it doesnt seem to be an audio related problem, more like something of a mix of xfce and xorg19:35
MarKsaitiswhy stuff cant just be simple19:35
snamaor one of them19:35
ziyadbDr_willis: integrated intel 4500HD or something.19:35
Dr_willisziyadb,   the monitor/display setting tool might let you select a differnt res.19:36
snamabut i will try at ubuntu-studio channel19:36
Taekhex` is this supposed to be an apache2 module, if so please take your question to #apache19:36
gmachine_24snama, #ubuntustudio19:36
snamathanks19:36
hex`Taek thank you.19:36
TaekAlso  if it's for SVN which i think it is, might check with #subversion19:37
ziyadbDr_willis: the "display settings" tool?19:37
gmachine_24ok so any help for me? :) running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized19:37
Dr_willisziyadb,  in the menus somewhere. a tool to set your res.19:37
zambabekks: any idea?19:37
ziyadbDr_willis: yeah, the default one. The options are limited.19:37
Artemis3gmachine_24, have you tried more recent versions just in case? (live cds, etc)19:38
ziyadbDr_willis: just 800x600 and 1024x768, both 4:3.19:38
andygraybealhey guys, I'm running 10.04 LTS.  I installed the latest LibreOffice from PPA ( http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu lucid main ) it installed LO 3.5.1.2 - the problem I ran into is it doesn't want to print copies of a document.  the fix is outlined yesterday here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/925836 .  the problem i have is i don't understand this enough to know how to remedy my situation.  can som19:38
andygraybealeone help me?19:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 925836 in LibreOffice Productivity Suite "[Upstream] Invalid PDF generated on single job collation" [High,In progress]19:38
atpa8ahmm19:38
atpa8anetwork issue... cannot restart19:38
snamagmachine_24 do you know what file system its using?19:38
atpa8ahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/916460/19:38
atpa8acan anyone comment?19:38
genewitchwhat does it mean when the installer hangs at 98% "Starting PC Card Services" on ubuntu server19:39
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MarKsaitisit means ur screwed19:39
genewitchcool story bro19:39
MarKsaitis=)19:39
Taektrue19:40
csharpgenewitch: can you check /var/log/syslog for any useful messages?19:40
rrvahi! How do I set the only sink to be my TV over hdmi when that cable is connected and how do I force it to be 48khz? I have crackling audio now19:40
bazhangMarKsaitis, thats not helping19:40
MarKsaitis!xfce19:41
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels19:41
MarKsaitisI bet thats another METAdevilpackage19:41
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antonn_Hi!19:42
guntbertMarKsaitis: what are you trying to do?19:42
Dualityhow do i start a process in terminal/console and when i do ctrl-c it doesn't really closes but gives me back the console/commandline19:42
antonn_Can you please tell the name of the actor (the little negro) ? http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7091/screenshot2012040523130.jpg19:42
bazhangantonn_, wrong channel19:43
guntbertDuality: programname &     starts it "in the background"19:43
Dualityguntbert, if i start my python script it'll ask me a few questions and then run, but i want to close it after it's done asking me the questions and us the command line while it runs in the background19:44
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ZalDuality, you can start it inside a screen session19:44
Artemis3MarcoSousa, what do you want? pure xfce? then the meta is called xfce4, but there are core packages. The whole experience is xubuntu-desktop19:44
Artemis3i mean MarKsaitis19:44
mcb_1Duality:  Use CTRL+z19:45
mcb_1Duality: It will put it in background in the middle of execution19:45
Zalctrl-z works too, so long as you don't try to exit the shell19:45
MarKsaitisyeah Artemis3 I want xfce19:45
zykotick9Duality: you also might want to checkout "screen"19:45
MarKsaitisdesktop19:45
guntbertDuality: better use another terminal  window   -- or still better  GNU screen19:46
Artemis3MarKsaitis, check here, it shows what packages will install: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce419:46
Artemis3MarKsaitis, you can compare with xubuntu-desktop. Difecente is ubuntu vs debian way19:47
Artemis3diference19:47
frunkHow's it going19:47
guntbertfrunk: welcome to the ubuntu support channel19:47
frunkI'm having an issue with installation and I can't find any information about it anywhere19:47
frunkAnyone got some time to help19:48
zykotick9!details | frunk19:48
ubottufrunk: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:48
MarKsaitisis it xubuntu-desktop?19:48
MarKsaitissystems says foff to me when I try to install it =) not found19:48
frunkIt's with any Linux based OS I guess, Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu19:48
frunkThe problem I receive is a split screen like effect19:49
Taek sounds like a computer issue not a distro issue19:49
Artemis3MarKsaitis, both will install an XFCE desktop, its the extra packages what changes. Xubuntu will use Network Manager, for instance.19:49
frunkwhere upon installation and bootup19:49
spyvsspyhi, I am getting an error in regards to invalide character version numbers when installing a .deb19:49
frunkIt splits my screen into two portions19:49
fennsanyone know which package has the Mist icon set?19:49
spyvsspywhats the quickest way around this?19:49
guntbert!enter | frunk19:49
ubottufrunk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:49
frunkLike a dual monitor effect19:49
MarKsaitisanyways, dunno what ur all talking about, im on ubuntu 11.04 and I want xfce desktop19:49
MarKsaitis!xfce19:49
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels19:49
ToMiKS!edubuntu19:50
ubottuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org19:50
frunkAlrihgt, yeah, it gives me a dual monitor like effect. I can't access the right side of the screen without moving my mouse all the way to the left side of the screen and past it.19:50
bazhangMarKsaitis, xubuntu-desktop is the package to install19:50
Artemis3MarKsaitis, wither install xubuntu-destop OR xfce419:50
bazhangMarKsaitis, /msg ubottu from now on19:50
Taekfrunk do you hav e any video issues with windows?19:50
frunkNo19:50
MarKsaitis=)))))) what is the difference between xubuntu-desktoip and xfce?19:50
MarKsaitisI thought they are both xfce4?19:51
frunkI've got all new hardware, just built this computer 4 months ago19:51
Taekyou may have to install proprietary hardware drivers.19:51
Artemis3MarKsaitis, thats why i showed you that page, it tells which packages install19:51
MarKsaitishttp://pastebin.com/UB6sxYPh for all of you, have a look19:51
MarKsaitisI find it a waste of time, why cant it just work19:51
Artemis3MarKsaitis, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4 vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xubuntu-desktop19:51
TaekMenu:System->Administration->Hardware Drivers19:52
frunkTaek, so I need to get hardware drivers?19:52
Artemis3MarKsaitis, it works if you install the package xubuntu-desktop, OR download the Xubuntu image and install from scratch19:52
TaekNot saying you absolutely do, j ust stating it as a p ossiblity19:52
frunkokay19:52
TaekExcuse my spacing, spacebar button is stuck haha19:53
frunkyeah, windows works fine which is why I thought it was weird, I'm running mint off a USB right now19:53
mcb_1MarKsaitis: Terminal is case sensitive, you typed Xubuntu with X capital, it is in lower case, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop19:53
frunkand it's working fine19:53
frunkI also ran fedora last night and that installed fine19:53
dooma09When creating new directory how do to default to have group write access? The current default is with no group write access to directory.19:53
jackhello19:53
zykotick9dooma09: look into umask19:53
TaekUbuntu has generic vga/xvga drivers. If you use nVidia you will certainly  need hardware drivers19:54
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MarKsaitismcb_1, as u can se I tried both options19:54
llutzdooma09: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/group-write-access-for-newly-created-files-directories-without-changing-umask-716601/19:54
sebastienhola19:54
mcb_1MarKsaitis: I saw it a little after, but as your output said xubunto-desktop is already installed....19:55
frunkI'm using a MSI 6970, so, I guess ATI RAdeon19:55
sebastien buenas noches19:55
frunknot nvidia19:55
frunkweird19:55
guntbert!es | sebastien19:55
ubottusebastien: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.19:55
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Taekwell both nVidia & ATI  require hardware drivers to fully  utilize them. If it's onboard m ost of the time the generic driver works at least enough to get the drivers19:55
Artemis3hmm that ubotu message in spanish could use some fixes19:56
Zaldooma09, others gave you suggestions for changing the default. You can also override the default with the -m switch to mkdir.19:56
genewitchdell 1950s SUCK19:56
MarKsaitisanyways, it is all a big pile of unstable crap :D19:56
Guest1136ubuntu-es19:56
bazhangMarKsaitis, stop that19:56
Artemis3 /join #ubuntu-es19:56
ZalTaek, is that true? 5 years ago I was able to get full support (incl 3d accel) from my ATI using native drivers. Not sure about these days.19:57
frunkyup, Taek, well done19:57
frunkseems to be a driver issue19:57
MarKsaitisbazhang, how can it say such pack is installed if I never installed it and its not there19:57
frunksince the card isn't normally compatible19:57
MarKsaitisthe damn thing, I even did remove and install again, it did install few megs, but still the stuff isnt there19:57
bazhangMarKsaitis, why are you running as root19:57
TaekZal he's using onboard on a mainboard less then a year old :)19:57
dooma09Zal: ok. but if user create directory from ftp then i can't use -m. I'll check out umaske and the link from llutz. Thanks.19:57
MarKsaitisI have asked installer to install something for me, it said it installed. but stuff isnt there. how can I trust that installer19:57
MarKsaitiswhy not19:58
ZalTaek, yeah, i don't know the current state of drivers, but at the time, my ATI card was brand new as well19:58
pluz_hey19:58
bazhangMarKsaitis, its installed.19:58
Artemis3dooma09, it might be your ftp server settings, check config19:58
TaekOnboard/ vs PCIe/APG   handes differently19:58
TaekAGP*19:58
zykotick9ftp must die!19:58
Taek FTP is the good stuff man19:59
ZalTaek, interesting, never noticed the difference.19:59
frunkTaek, one more thing, trying to install this driver19:59
TaekOnBoard video doesn't  have a bios chip to relay the details to the system19:59
frunkseems it's going to open up the terminal, but it's opening up gedit, with a blank box.19:59
frunkthere we go20:00
frunkgot it20:00
Taek:D20:00
frunkthank you sir20:00
TaekYour welcome Frunk20:00
frunknow, will this driver like, go over the regular driver, and if I want optimal performance on win7, I will need to redownload the regular drivers?20:01
frunkor it's just alongside it20:01
TaekWindows Utilizes  drivers differently then linux20:01
frunkSo this linux driver will just be installed alongside any other drivers that the gfx card uses?20:02
guntbertfrunk: please don't press <enter> so often, you are scrolling the channel much more than needed20:02
TaekIf you have a dual-boot system, each OS will require their version of the driver20:02
frunkSorry.20:02
MarKsaitisthe good thing about windows - it doesnt freeze software for years and it doesnt give a shit about the version, it just runs whatever software u install on it =)20:02
pangolin!language | MarKsaitis20:02
bazhangMarKsaitis, no cursing here20:02
ubottuMarKsaitis: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.20:02
Taekfrunk: not sure I understand the question fully20:03
MarKsaitisI didnt think windows is a bad word =)20:03
dooma09zykotick9: after i updated /etc/profile to change umask g=rwx. What command to use instead of reboot to take effect?20:03
snamahaha20:03
MonkeyDustMarKsaitis  whatever software, even infected, you mean?20:03
frunkWhat I'm asking is if I will need to reinstall any drivers after I install this one for Linux. Like, will this linux driver I'm installing remove the current driver20:03
bazhangMonkeyDust, lets move along20:03
snama"in these parts of town, you better watch your tounge"20:03
zykotick9dooma09: sorry i'm not sure how one would apply umask after change?20:03
motherbraincurious I am use to old HDD MBR / partition table format / structure when are we making the switch to GPT based partition tables20:04
bekksfrunk: Which "linux driver"?20:04
frunkhttp://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English20:04
Taekfrunk: no you wont  need to reinstall drivers. however  updates may  occur, that will display in the software update manager20:04
frunkOKay.20:04
motherbrainis this only for newer 64 bit machine (I know it could be made for any bit machine but didn't know what new OS support this GPT20:04
motherbrainDoes linux / ubuntu20:05
motherbrainwindows20:05
motherbrainmac20:05
bekksmotherbrain: GPT is independent from 32/64 bit.20:05
motherbrainI know20:05
bekksmotherbrain: You just asked that.20:05
motherbrainBut do all OS support this now. SInce I doubt windows 95 had the file driver to support this ;)20:05
TaekNot a place to ask about windows OSs20:06
dagerivI have openssh-server running, how can I remove it from startup and also kill the process? Its not listed in "startup applications"20:06
motherbrainBasically I am curious when the first windows, mac, and linux machine could use/provided support for GPT not that it is to complicated20:06
guntbert!ot | motherbrain20:06
ubottumotherbrain: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:06
Taekdageriv:  it would  be listed as SSHd20:07
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new2neti just realized totem will play an audio file if you leave your mouse hovering over it in nautilus... :P neat20:07
bekksmotherbrain: Windows, OSX, and Linux already support GPT.20:07
llutzdageriv: echo "manual" |sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.override20:08
dagerivTaek: nope20:08
gmachine_24Artemis3, the SanDisk memory card reader used to work on everything . In fact, the computer can "see" that the reader is plugged in as it ids them as /dev/sg2-/dev/sg5 . And, under >places>computer there are four icons for "Generic STORAGE DEVICE" ... however, putting a memory card in the reader doesn't change anything. i.e. the computer does not read the data.20:08
SteevcaUbuntu is reporting my graphic as unknown instead of galion.How do i get it to work?20:09
bekksDo you mean "Gallium" ?20:09
gmachine_24But this isn't even really my real question. It has to do with a computer that will no longer boot and I get to the initramfs > point and am lost but I need to post all that info so I will be back shorly.20:09
bekksIf so, that will be - not that easy.20:10
toastedpenguinAnyone point me to a iptables how to for setting up routing between 1 "WAN" interface and 2 LAN interfaces, all are private IPs, I just need to be able to forward packets between the networks20:10
Steevcabekks, yes. :D20:10
SteevcaSorry. :D20:10
bekksSteevca: Good luck then :)20:11
bazhangtoastedpenguin, try #netfilter20:11
MonkeyDust!iptables| toastedpenguin20:11
ubottutoastedpenguin: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.20:11
kevin__which is the lightest distro Linux Mint Debian XFCE or Linux Mint Julia 10 ?20:19
markgiffordjoin #ubuntu+120:19
bazhangkevin__, ask in mintsupport20:19
kevin__thanks20:19
joker404des français?20:22
bazhangjoker404, #ubuntu-fr20:23
joker404ah pas bête20:23
joker404vous connaissez des bons films?20:25
HorizonXPis there any info on Intel Atom CedarView graphics support in Ubuntu?20:26
HorizonXPI'd like to find out about driver support prior to purchase.20:26
HorizonXPI know that PowerVR stuff isn't great, but I don't want to wait until 2013 for Intel to ditch them.20:26
HorizonXPWhat about the AMD Fusion stuff?20:26
MonkeyDustHorizonXP  that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic20:29
HorizonXPMonkeyDust: ok, thanks, appreciate the direction :)20:29
ludwin01does anybody make itunes work on lucid linx20:29
aeon-ltdludwin01: look into 'wine'20:30
svipAnyone know where to look for crashes during high io load?20:30
svipI tried changing the schedulers, but that didn't do much.20:31
ludwin01yeah already did but there is any another way to manage the ipod touch?20:31
auronandace!itunes | ludwin0120:31
ubottuludwin01: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee20:31
auronandace!ipod | ludwin0120:31
ubottuludwin01: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod20:31
ludwin01@ubottu thanks man really appreciate your help20:32
guntbertsvip: did you look into the logs?20:32
svipguntbert: I am going to reinstall.  Installing from Windows might have been a mistake.20:33
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guntbertsvip: I don't know about wubi, but ....20:34
hatchAfter an update on my Wubi installed Ubuntu 10.04 I'm getting 'error: coudln't read file \n press any key to continue...'20:35
hatchkeypresses don't do anything20:35
hatchis there a way to boot to a different terminal with Wubi or is this thing bricked?20:35
Escherialdoes anyone happen to know why adding an app i've dragged to the launcher in ubuntu 11.10 unity doesn't show an icon?20:36
Escherialthere's just a big blank space there, even though the icon shows up in the quick launcher (in fact, that's where i dragged it from)20:36
angswhat is the directory that all user installed programs stored, like program files in windows?20:37
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MonkeyDustangs  /usr/bin/ -- programs are installed there automatically if they come from the repos20:39
vltangs: /usr/local/ for example20:39
angsthanks20:39
lacrymologywho was the idiot that added that + to python version number?20:41
vltangs: Ah, I didn’t understand your question right: /usr/local/ is for programs the user installs himself (without the package manger). Files from packages go whereever they belong: /etc/ /usr/ /var/ …20:41
gmachine_24Can I upload a photo file or screen shot to the pastebin instead of typing out all the text on the screen?20:41
lacrymologydamned distro retards who don't know better than sticking their noses in other people's code20:41
TeligardWho's the pro on fstab and path mapping of NAS's?20:41
gmachine_24!pastebin20:42
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:42
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guntbertlacrymology: 1) ranting won't help   2) why here?20:43
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Teligardhttp://pastebin.com/ide45pcb contains my current fstab, and has commented the areas that don't work as well as the ones that do20:44
TeligardThe error I receive is that it can't find the path specified, but I can browse directly to it20:44
Teligardjust can't map it in the fstab20:44
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lacrymologyguntbert: the internet seems to believe it was "the ubuntu people" who changed the python version number to 2.7.2+, python versions DON'T have +es in them, and that breaks just about everything20:45
lacrymologyguntbert: everything = installing of other python packages20:46
guntbertlacrymology: we are not "the ubuntu people" - this channel is only for peer support20:46
lacrymologyguntbert: well, damnit anyways ;)20:47
gmachine_24http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ for my comp that won't boot but goes to (initramfs). Thank you in advance.20:50
dackyshawnok i've been tasked with trying to find a secure file transfer method for a tax person... i found out everyone was emailing files to her unecrypted with social and earnings in the wide open20:50
dackyshawnanyone know of a way that i could embed some type of FTP thing to her website that will allow for easy secure file transfers20:50
gmachine_24dackyshawn I don't think polling is allowed20:50
ZiggyTheHamsterI have what is hopefully a simple question. I need to see how much space that a package will use once installed without actually installing the package. apt-get install -s won't print the file sizes out and I don't want to actually go through with the installation so I'm reluctant to try it without -s20:50
dackyshawnpolling?20:51
dackyshawnZiggyTheHamster: it will tell you when you run the apt-get command20:51
gmachine_24dackyshawn, as in asking for the best software or technique for doing something20:51
dackyshawnand you just select "no" to install20:51
dackyshawn(that is if you dont want to install it)20:51
ZiggyTheHamsterdackyshawn: FTP is inherently insecure; SFTP would work but nothing supports it. I would recommend setting up a simple secure upload script (PHP/Perl/whatever) hosted on a HTTPS server20:52
ZiggyTheHamsterdackyshawn: Thanks. Will try now.20:52
dackyshawnZiggyTheHamster: it'll say something like "the package <package name> will require <some bytes here> to install:20:52
dackyshawnor something like that20:52
dackyshawndont know the exact wording20:52
ZiggyTheHamsteryeah it did that20:52
optimousI want to set up an PPPoE Server in Ubuntu.. Consider me a N00B..20:53
dackyshawnhmmm20:53
dackyshawnnever seen anyone set up there own PPPoE server before20:54
gmachine_24http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ anyone who can help with a boot problem. thanks.20:54
optimouswell i just want to try that once.. ;)20:54
dackyshawnusually this is something done for dsl modems and what not20:54
syddrafIs there a reason that chmod would fail to set the proper permissions, but throw no error? I'm trying to "chmod +x script", and it isn't making it executable.20:54
dackyshawnoptimous: what are you trying to do exactly?20:54
dackyshawnwhat do you need PPPoE for?20:54
optimousI want to share my Internet(With speed restrictins per user) in LAN..20:55
dackyshawnoptimous: cuz i dont think u have the term correct20:55
dackyshawnoh then no you are not using the correct term20:55
dackyshawnu essentially want to turn your linux box into a router am I correct?20:55
dackyshawnoptimous: ^^20:56
optimouswell, i thought it would be done by the box..20:56
guntbertsyddraf: what does ls -l   <thatfile>  say?20:56
dackyshawnoptimous: ummm yes... but the term is not PPPoE that is something completely different20:56
optimoussince i too want to implement the authentication for users to get access..20:56
dackyshawnoptimous: then you want your linux box to be a router with Proxy authentication20:57
optimousas I've seen some private broadband providers giving broadband access, with a LAN cable.. rather the ADSL...20:57
dackyshawnhuh?20:57
dackyshawnoptimous: you already have internet correct?20:58
optimousyes..20:58
dackyshawnPPPoE is a protocol its not what you want to use for your LAN20:58
dackyshawnit's used for ISPs to talk with their equipment primarily20:58
dackyshawntho cable providers that i know of dont usually use PPPoE (dsl providers do tho)20:58
dackyshawnoptimous: how many network cards do you have in your linux box?20:59
optimousI've analysed that with Wireshark, and it's PPPoE..20:59
dackyshawnhow does wireshark tell you it's PPPoE20:59
dackyshawn?20:59
optimousi've analysed the packets sent when connecting to the Broadband service...20:59
dackyshawnok.... well do you have a router already?21:00
optimousyes..21:00
dackyshawnok is it provided by your ISP21:00
dackyshawnor is it your own?21:00
optimousISP Just provides a LAN Connection, nothing else..21:00
dackyshawnISP doesnt provide LAN21:00
dackyshawnthey provide WAN21:00
dackyshawnit goes ISP --> MODEM --> router21:01
optimousI mean, the Broadband provider...21:01
dackyshawnyes that is your ISP21:01
dackyshawnISP = Internet Service Provider21:01
guntbert!enter | dackyshawn21:01
ubottudackyshawn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:01
dackyshawnwho ever provides your internet is your ISP21:01
dackyshawnenter wasnt beign used as punctuation... they were new thoughts hence why they were on new lines... sorry i am a fast typer21:02
optimousSee, to get the Broadband servicem the Provider set up a LAN cable till my Box, and then gave me username & password..21:02
dackyshawnoptimous: PPPoE is a method that your ISP uses to allow clients to dial up to them, this is not something you run on a WAN21:02
syddrafguntbert: -rw------- 1 syddraf syddraf 293 2012-04-05 15:54 script.sh21:02
zykotick9syddraf: you sh script doesn't seem to have execute... just sayin'21:03
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syddrafzykotick9: Please read my original post. I am trying to run "chmod +x script.sh", but it is not giving exec permissions.21:04
guntbertsyddraf: and now the output of     ls -ld  .     please   (mind the dot!)21:04
ActionParsnipsyddraf: is it stored on an ntfs or fat partition?21:04
syddrafActionParsnip: NTFS21:05
Phraktalanyone knows how to get mysqlnd in php5 on ubuntu ?21:05
syddrafguntbert : drwx------ 1 syddraf syddraf 0 2012-04-05 16:02 .21:05
zykotick9syddraf: fat/ntfs doesn't support POSIX permissions21:05
ActionParsnipsyddraf: thats why then21:05
syddrafSo I can't execute scripts from an ntfs partition?21:05
ActionParsnipguntbert: crappy ntfs dude21:05
zykotick9syddraf: "sh script.sh"21:05
ActionParsnipzykotick9: thanks21:06
guntbertActionParsnip: thx for spotting21:06
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syddrafThanks everyone. I was unaware of needing that. I rarely21:06
syddrafexecute anything from this drive.21:06
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ActionParsnipguntbert: shoots his finger gun21:06
syddrafI am kind of surprised that chmod doesn't say *something* though.21:07
ActionParsnipsyddraf: zykotick9's command will work, you cannot mark things as executable in NTFS, it cannot hold advanced Linux permissions. You'd need to mount it so ALL the files are executable21:07
syddrafActionParsnip: Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.21:07
ActionParsnipsyddraf: it does succeed, it just doesn't stick but it could say something21:07
erraticwhere are the php 5.4 packaages for ubuntu21:07
ActionParsnip!info php521:08
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.6-13ubuntu3.6 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB21:08
ActionParsniphmm21:08
erraticyeah seems like they're missing how come21:08
timHi21:08
auronandaceerratic: because 5.4 was released after 11.1021:08
ActionParsniperratic: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-upgrade-install-php-540-under.html21:09
icerooterratic: ubuntu will never release a major update in a release21:09
ActionParsniperratic: how long did that take me?21:09
Dr_willisyou can mount ntfs/vfat where everything is executable.. but thats eve more annoying.21:09
ActionParsniperratic: 120 seconds, must be a record21:09
erratic./ignore21:09
icerooterratic: so you have to use a ppa, build it from source, use backports or something like that21:09
icerootActionParsnip: you are very slow :)21:09
erraticty!21:09
ActionParsnipiceroot: yeahm I stopped to order a pizza21:09
ActionParsniperratic: all I did was search the web21:10
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erratick21:10
erraticthx21:10
icerootActionParsnip: there is a nice irssi-script to order pizza :)21:10
gabrielo_s21:10
ActionParsnipiceroot: sweet21:10
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PepeLinuxhi21:11
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edoceoI'm using  1.0 on Ubuntu 12.04, seems like some of the roms that were present in 0.15 are not there?21:13
ActionParsnipedoceo: #ubuntu+1 for Precise support please21:14
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JessicaWLF help with iscsi ubuntu 10.04 server...21:17
JessicaWI have a dell R810 with 4 network interfaces running ubuntu server 10.04. I'm trying to direct connect a dell md3220i iscsi SAN. I have ETH0 set to the main network and it's working fine. The IP address of the SAN ETH0 is 192.168.130.101. I added ETH1 to /etc/network/interfaces and installed open-iscsi.21:17
JessicaWWhen I ifup eth1, it connects to the SAN via iscsi and then I can no longer ping or connect to ETH021:18
ActionParsnipJessicaW: check your routing table?21:18
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JessicaWnot yet. route command right?21:20
JessicaWkind of new to this.21:20
JessicaWnetstat -rn. got it. what am I looking for specifically?21:22
SteevcaChromium is reporting a missing plug-in on some youtube videos.21:23
ActionParsnipJessicaW: just:  route     will do, your default will obviously need to be going through not the iscsi21:23
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JessicaWthe default is going through eth0 but I currently have eth1 down21:24
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JessicaWwhen I ifup eth1 I can no longer connect to it. Also, I noticed it reverts my hostname for 127.0.0.1 in etc/hosts to an old name we haven't used in a while.21:26
ActionParsnipJessicaW: thats normal, when you bring the interface up, check the route table again21:27
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JessicaWoh. wow. yeah, it makes both ETH0 and ETH1 default21:29
JessicaWthat's where the problem is right?21:29
JessicaWActionParsnip: I should probably learn IRC niceties and address you personally huh...21:30
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iroquoisis there a brand of UPS's that make software that's linux compatible?21:35
ActionParsnipJessicaW: thanks :)21:36
ActionParsnipJessicaW: use tab to autocomplete21:36
netbusActionParsnip: woah, i never knew the tab trick!!!!!!!!121:37
JessicaWActionParsnip: oh that's so handy. Thanks.21:37
ActionParsnipnetbus: works in terminal too ;)21:37
netbusActionParsnip: i knew that part :P21:37
JessicaWActionParsnip: hahaha. *nods*21:37
JessicaWActionParsnip: so how do I make it so that it doesn't make eth1 a default route too?21:38
ActionParsnipJessicaW: you can add stuff in the interfaces file to do stuff but i'm not so sure.21:39
SteevcaChromium is playing yotube videos and just stops and shows silver banner in the middle of the screen : "missing plug-in"21:40
bekksJessicaW: How does you network interfaces config file looks like currently?21:41
bekks! paste > JessicaW21:41
ubottuJessicaW, please see my private message21:41
JessicaWI think the problem is having two default gateways in one routing table21:42
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sirknighthow do i setup samba for a local network , with ftp21:43
sirknightoh and hi everyone21:44
Teligard2ok, how do you rebuld an fstab from scratch?21:44
JessicaWbekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916635/21:44
ActionParsnipsirknight: samba nad ftp are 2 different technologies21:44
ActionParsnip*and21:44
DasEiTeligard2: open a teminal ..21:44
ActionParsnipsirknight: its either samba, or it's ftp21:45
DasEiTeligard2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo blkid | pastebinit,  give resulting url here21:45
erraticONEIRIC THE OCELOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:45
DasEi!fstab | Teligard221:47
ubottuTeligard2: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions21:47
SteevcaI am expiriencing laggying in the uninty 2d when scrolling.21:47
bekksJessicaW: The solution is pretty clear. You are setting a second and third gateway for eth1 and eth2 (besides the one for eth0).21:47
bekks*default gateway21:47
bekksThat breaks things then.21:47
JessicaWbekks: how do I fix it though?21:47
ActionParsnipSteevca: what GPU do you use?21:47
bekksJust put a # before that both lines and restart networking. That should fix it.21:48
SteevcaATI Radeon 9550 open source drivers.21:48
sirknightActionParsnip, i was seeing ppl do both , setup samba first the ftp into samba21:48
JessicaWbekks: according to the SAN documentation it needs a gateway21:48
ActionParsnipsirknight: you can have both if you want21:48
DasEi Teligard2 ?21:48
bekksJessicaW: then you have to set a dedicated route, and not another default gateway21:48
bekksJessicaW: Give it a shot without the gateway :)21:49
JessicaWbekks: :P you win. and I love you right now.21:50
ActionParsnipJessicaW: thats why its a community :)21:50
SteevcaActionParsnip, i am only experiencing the lag in the app. section in unity 2d.21:51
sirknightActionParsnip, ok ... i need a samba  for local network , then a bowser like ftp  to get into file for the net on a differnt machine  like public wifi21:51
erraticUPGRAYD GOIN FIND U21:51
JessicaWnow I just have to figure out how to make the iscsi work21:51
bekksJessicaW: :)21:51
hsnmckhello, is there a way to create an alias for a value in linux, for example instead of writing "ssh 192.168.1.1" i would like to write "ssh routerIP"21:52
hsnmckthx21:52
ActionParsnipsirknight: ftp isn't very secure at all21:52
bekksJessicaW: Basically I do doubt that the iscsi thing depends on a given gateway. If thats the case for that iscsi provider, they entirely broke their setup :)21:52
ActionParsnipsirknight: if you install openssh-server you will get an sftp server21:52
Multbrelchhsnmck, alias dir='ls -al'21:52
JessicaWhsnmck: dns21:53
sirknightActionParsnip,  whats that... sftp21:53
bekkshsnmck: Put "ipofrouter nameofrouter" in your /etc/hosts21:53
hsnmckMultbrelch: but alias works only for commands21:53
ActionParsnipsirknight: secure ftp21:53
Zalsirknight, specifically, it is ftp-like access over ssh, in fact a subsystem of the ssh server21:53
JessicaWbekks: doesn't hosts get overwritten during upgrades?21:53
hsnmckbekks: well that was an example, but i wanted to know if i can create an alias for something21:54
bekksJessicaW: If so, I'll personally kill the developer who coded that.21:54
ActionParsniphsnmck: add to ~/.bashrc       alias servername='ssh 192.168.1.1'21:54
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JessicaWlol21:54
Escherialis there any hope to get an application that maintains its own menubar into the unity bar?21:54
Escherialthe app in question is pycharm, a python ide21:54
borisetohello, i sorry for disturbing u guys, but i was wondering if somebody could help me with a grub problem i'm facing :/21:54
ZalActionParsnip, one of my favorites! I have a gazillion of those21:54
motherbrainHow is freebsd openbsd or opensolaris interms of supported x86 hardware /machines21:55
ActionParsnipZal: same :)21:55
hsnmckActionParsnip: is it possible to make the alias only for the ip instead of the whole command21:55
ActionParsnipmotherbrain: ask in #bsd21:55
Escheriali'm debating giving up on unity after all of the issues i've faced :\21:55
sirknightZal,  i need it simple enough for a noob to send files from the office to the compuer im on now , which will be the server21:55
bekkshsnmck: I just told you :)21:55
sirknightActionParsnip,  ok.21:55
ActionParsniphsnmck: you could make an alias for the servername, not the IP (as far as I'm aware)21:55
borisetoanyone?21:56
Escherialthe slideout sidebar, for instance, is highly unfriendly to anyone who uses an ide that makes significant use of the lefthand part of the screen21:56
hsnmckok.. thanks21:56
Zalsirknight, well, most good FTP clients will probably also support SFTP, so that shouldn't be an issue.21:56
ActionParsnipsirknight: nautilus can connct to SSHFS easily21:56
Zalhsnmck, sure, you can have: alias myserver="ssh -l special -P5555 ssh.mynetwork.com" or whatever21:57
sirknightActionParsnip,  there no one going to hack me  ... and theres not much of of important files... well maybe kittys21:57
Escherialon the topic of nautilus and sshfs, you should beware of a flaky connection or, say, having to sleep your laptop...21:57
SteevcaCan i install GTK3 themes in unity?21:57
Zalsirknight, you'd be surprised how many people will be glad to hack you21:57
Escherialit'll basically have a heart attack if your connection breaks (say, if you exceed the range of your wifi access point)21:58
sirknightActionParsnip, Zal  i must get the samba up first21:58
ActionParsnipsirknight: install the samba package and you can use nautilus to setup shares21:58
Escheriali feel fuddy today :\21:58
lambdanwhats your guys highest uptime?21:59
bencccan I use apt-get source to get a package from a previous ubuntu release?22:00
Zallambdan, about 4'1"22:01
DasEilambdan: #ubuntu-offttopic, not my time today22:01
lambdansorry22:01
ActionParsniplambdan: my girlfriend says about 10 mins on a good day ;)22:01
sirknightZal,  well they just ask me what  they want and ill give them the proxies of there life,22:03
DasEibencc: not without trouble, as packets depend on other ones22:06
Jordan_U!language | ActionParsnip22:06
ubottuActionParsnip: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:06
DasEibencc: rather set up a vm on a previous release22:06
benccDasEi: can I just download a specific package?22:07
daniellogHi, I'm having some trouble trying to set up a KVM virtual machine on a server on my LAN, could anyone help me?22:07
wyldebencc: yes, but you will have to solve dependacy issues manually.22:08
Jordan_U!details | daniellog22:08
ubottudaniellog: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:08
netbus!language | Jordan_U22:08
ubottuJordan_U: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:08
DasEibencc: packages mostly depend on certain libs and other prerequisits, so need a stable environment22:08
Teligard2!fstab22:08
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions22:08
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DasEiTeligard2: ask if questions, and the pastie ?22:09
Teligard2I figured out howto get the mappings to work, but inadvertantly overwrote the proc and other default mappings, and need to get them back22:09
daniellogI have a problem with ubuntu server 11.10 with kvm installed, I'm trying to use virt-manager to remotely connect to the instance to create a virtual machine, I'm able to connect to it but it can't see the local ubuntu installer disc in the server, I just get "Could not find media '/dev/sr1'"22:10
skeldaniellog: to be clear, /dev/sr1 exists where libvirtd is running? the remote kvm host?22:12
Jordan_Udaniellog: I'm familiar with kvm but not virt-manager. Do you know how to find the exact kvm command which is being run?22:12
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skeldaniellog: if so, it might be a group security issue with libvirt-qemu user not having access to /dev/sr1 or where it gets mounted. Have you tried just using isos?22:13
wyldedaniellog: do you have the iso in an nfs/samba/nbd/ssh/etc... network share? If not the you'll have to move the installation file to the remote machine, and mount it into the VM from there.22:13
daniellogI think so, if I connect through putty I can see links cdrom1 -> sr1 etc (to be clear I have two dvd drives on the server)22:14
daniellogwell I was following this guide22:14
danielloghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM22:14
wyldedaniellog: in all truth you'll have fewer headaches just moving the iso over to the remote machine. IMHO.22:15
Mean_Admin_In Unity, under Software Center, I'm attempting to install GNOME Shell but the Install button is absent and instead, I find a greyed out "Use This Source" that would allow me to the universe repository22:15
daniellogok so shall I just copy it onto a flash drive or something?22:15
ActionParsnipMean_Admin_: try:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell22:16
Teligard2How do I find the UUID's necessary to remap my default items in the fstab?22:16
wyldedaniellog: do you have remote access to the the server? If so just copy the iso to the remote machine over the network. I meant that doing a remote install with remote media is leaving yourself open for LOTS to go wrong. ;)22:16
Mean_Admin_ActionParsnip: no such package :(22:16
ActionParsnipTeligard2: sudo blkid22:17
ActionParsnip!info gnome-shell22:17
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1 (oneiric), package size 336 kB, installed size 972 kB (Only available for any all)22:17
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brianmare there any docs for creating a ppa?22:17
daniellogyeah its on my local network, where should I copy it to on the server?22:17
ActionParsnipMean_Admin_: did you enable the universe repo?22:17
Mean_Admin_ActionParsnip: I did but... I did not update ... brb, Im probalby an idiot22:17
wyldedaniellog: somewhere that the user running the VM has access to.22:17
brianmgoogle onlys eems to find things for using launchpad's ppa22:18
ActionParsnipMean_Admin_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell22:18
daniellogwould I need to add it kvm as some sort of storage pool?22:18
wyldedaniellog: you'll need to know how to get to the iso to have the VM mount it as sr1 :)22:19
daniellogso your saying copy it over to the server, then mnt the iso to /dev/sr0?22:19
fission6how do i let any user write to a folder?22:20
wyldedaniellog: yep22:20
hiexpofission6, add user is all22:20
daniellogok I'll give it a try now22:21
wyldedaniellog: sorry I can be more specific, I've used kvm but don't have it available to check on commands and whatnot.22:21
ActionParsnipfission6: sudo chmod o+w folder22:21
hauxHow do I configure ubuntu to boot into command line, so I have to type startx to get into xfce? ...rather than loading directly to the gui login.22:21
Mean_Admin_ActionParsnip: yea, I was an idiot, no apt-get update, thanks22:22
ActionParsniphaux: add the boot option:   text22:22
ActionParsnipMean_Admin_: its groovy22:22
hiexpooops soory didn't know it was to a specific folder22:22
daniellog@wylde its ok I'll just try to mount it22:22
Teligard2Thank you :-)22:22
hauxActionParsnip, where do I add this? grub?22:22
daniellogI'm looking at open source hypervisors and how they compare to close source ones for my university project, been trying to get KVM working all day which isn't good :P22:23
ActionParsniphaux: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   change this line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    to      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text"     save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub22:23
bekksActionParsnip: thats done with a kernel cmd line in ubuntu? wow. :)22:24
ActionParsnipbekks: well, there are  2 commands, one to edit the file and one to apply it22:24
gear4hihi22:25
bekksActionParsnip: Yeah, I'm just wondering that it's basically a kernel cmdline thing. didnt know that22:25
gear4Why doesn't mod_rewrite exist ? (I try to enable it)22:25
hiexpohi/hi ActionParsnip22:26
ActionParsnipbekks: oh yeah, you just add that and it will not load the UI login thing22:26
wyldegear4: uhhh did you install and enable the mod?22:26
ActionParsniphi hiexpo :)22:26
TRAVISgProblem with Chromium in ubuntu 11.10. Won't start terminal says. Segmentation fault refers to apps/chromium.rc not existing22:26
gear4wylde, that's the thing: How ?22:26
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc22:26
bekksActionParsnip: Seems a bit odd in terms of runlevels, but ok :)22:26
hiexposhould give the name of the release I think22:27
gear4wylde, that's the thing: How ?22:28
TRAVISgoneiric22:28
wyldegear4: moment22:28
gear4wylde, kk22:28
Teligard2anyone familiar with this error:22:29
Teligard2ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave22:29
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: you could try:    mv ~/.config/chromium ~/.config/chromium_old       then rerun the browser22:29
Stelpahey, i've got a stupid question22:29
Teligard2I get a notification that I need to adjust my audiosettings, but have no idea where to go22:29
fishcookerhello fellas22:29
Stelpahow can you go about removing the ".sh" extension on a bash script22:29
fishcookerhow to know the ubuntu series from command line?22:30
Stelpaoh god22:30
Stelpahahaha22:30
Teligard2Stelpa: mv filename.sh filename22:30
Stelpanevermind22:30
ActionParsnipStelpa: use the mv command22:30
ZalStelpa, just rename the file.22:30
Stelpalol22:30
FloodBot1Stelpa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:30
Stelpajust realize you can rename it >_<22:30
fishcookerfrom command line ?22:30
Stelpasorry about that, told you it was stupid! :D22:30
fishcookerou i c from cat /etc/lsb-release22:31
ldiamondis there a way to verify that a usb stick is still good? i.e. write / read to see if it's got dead "sectors"22:31
fishcookerhow to upgrade to natty in such charm way22:31
wyldegear4: sorry, was on the phone and flipping papers everywhere heh.22:31
gear4np wylde lol22:32
fishcookeri do in $ apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade22:32
fishcookerbut not success22:32
wyldegear4: sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart22:32
wyldegear4: errr I assumed apache2, I hope I assumed correctly22:32
fishcookerhow to upgrade to the next release?22:32
gear4ah22:32
gear4yes22:32
fishcookerin charm way?22:33
gear4apache222:33
gear4fishcooker, update-manager -d22:33
fishcookerno luck gear422:33
TRAVISgActionParsnip it's running starts do you want output?22:33
atomehi there22:33
fishcookerin command line22:33
fishcookeri prefer22:33
gear4oh22:33
ActionParsnipgear4: thats for development versions, not to Oneiric22:33
TRAVISgActionParsnip doesn't look quite right22:33
ActionParsnip!upgrade | fishcooker22:33
ubottufishcooker: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:33
fishcookershould i change the sources.list22:33
gear4ActionParsnip, I upgrade to Oneiric like that22:34
ActionParsnipgear4: yes, when oneiric was in development22:34
atomeI'm on kubuntu 11.10 I recently update the kernel via apt (3.0.0-18-generic) and since this time all is completly crashy, ow can I downgrade proprely my kernel ??22:34
gear4ActionParsnip, no22:34
gear4When release22:34
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: run the browser now and you will have a default profile, does it run ok?22:35
fishcookerthanks actionparsnip22:35
ActionParsnipgear4:      read update-manager    ;)22:35
atomesome one can help me ?22:35
gear4ActionParsnip, kk22:35
fishcookerin command line actionparsnip22:36
fishcooker?22:36
TRAVISgActionParsnip no it starts but when I try to sign in it quits would you like the output?22:36
fishcookeri've no luck there22:36
fishcookeresp with update manager22:37
TRAVISgActionParsnip now it is back to not opening at all22:37
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: strange, you can rename the old profile back if you want the old profile back :), I'd report a bug22:37
dlentzatome, if you didn't remove the previous kernel, you can still boot into it22:37
bkerensaTRAVISg: surely report a bug :)22:37
Felishiahi! it's me again :P22:37
dlentzatome, hold shift at boot to access the grub menu and choose the kernel22:38
TRAVISgActionParsnip never done that don't know how22:38
Felishiaany idea on voice recognition on ubuntu bash22:38
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: run:   ubuntu-bug chromium-browser22:38
accipterWhen installing python packages, apt-get is installing python2.6 versions, but /usr/bin/python is point to /usr/bin/python2.7. How do I have apt-get select 2.7 instead?22:38
atomemmm22:39
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ActionParsnipFelishia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux22:39
dlentzaccipter, you can use galternatives package to select default python version22:39
mongyatome: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119223/updating-to-3-0-0-18-generic-new-linux-kernel-ubuntu-carshed22:39
atomedlentz: and if I apt-get remove && apt-get autoremove the last kernel still there ?22:40
fishcookeractionparsnip, there is no show new distribution release22:40
TRAVISgActionParsnip entered ubuntu-bug chromium-browser  output was segmentation fault. Is that what I wanted?22:40
dlentzapt-get remove what?22:40
atomethx mongy I check :)22:40
Guest95808is it right for me to choose Ubuntu Server ?!22:40
fishcookeron the software sources22:40
ActionParsnipfishcooker: use the server method, much easier22:40
fishcookerwhere is it22:40
fishcooker?22:40
atomeoups dlentz I would say apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean22:40
Felishiagoing to check :)22:41
ActionParsnipGuest95808: if you need a desktop UI, install the desktop22:41
dlentzatome, that doesn't remove an old kernel, so you should still have it22:41
ActionParsnipfishcooker: its on the same page22:41
fishcookerou sorry actionparsnip22:42
fishcookerim on oneiric btw22:42
fishcookerhow to upgrade to 12 PP22:42
fishcooker?22:42
Guest95808i joined recently a retail business with pc power as 10 PC's and 4 cashier22:42
Guest95808?!22:42
fishcookersorry22:42
ActionParsnipfishcooker: oh then you want:  sudo do-release-upgrade -d22:42
Guest95808do you recommend me >!?22:42
accipterdlentz: I don't want to change from python2.722:42
fishcookeri've check out at /etc/lsb-release22:42
atomeguys you are so cool merci :)22:42
Guest95808to use the Ubuntu server or Windows 2008 server instead ?!22:43
ActionParsnipGuest95808: what is the server going to do?22:43
Guest95808just ERP application(finance , commercial , HR , WH ) and the files server with backup capability ,,22:44
alfredohi, help with debugging shell22:45
alfredoneeding help please22:46
Felishiawell I'll be more specific this time :)22:47
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FelishiaI have a bash executable22:47
Felishiathat runs a python script according to a given input22:47
Felishiathe input is a command22:47
Felishiabut I want the input to be a voice input22:47
Felishiahow can I do that?22:48
gtech__So when I use ctrl-alt-F1 my screen goes psychadelic and freezes, I can go back to my normal x-session by hitting ctrl-alt-F8, I'm assuming this is a video card driver issue, my xorg.conf shows intel as the driver but I'm not sure what version I'm using and wheneer I try to switch to an nvidia driver I just get a blank screen my graphics card is a NVS 3100M which can switch to intel integrated graphics22:49
gtech__I guess my first question is how do I find out what specific driver I'm using?22:50
Rave1.22:53
TRAVISgActionParsnip Tried running ubuntu-bug chromium-browser it just said segmentation fault22:54
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: oh man, not good22:54
CJKay'Sup guys, the update manager doesn't seem to give me any option to update to 12.04 even though I've got it to notify of any update (not just LTS)22:55
BobMarleythis chat room must be the biggest one, 1559 users..22:55
jribCJKay: 12.04 hasn't been released yet22:55
CJKayWell there already appears to be guides to update to it, and one of the bug fixes of a problem I have was to update to Precise22:56
jribCJKay: it hasn't been released yet.  It's in beta.22:56
ggherdovhi all. Amateur sysadmin down here. I'd like to embellish my apache with FastCGI, what is my XY in "apt-get install XY" to get this done?22:56
CJKayThat's fine by me, I've always used beta releases22:56
jrib!12.04 | CJKay22:56
ubottuCJKay: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+122:56
CJKayOoh22:56
TRAVISgActionParsnip Okay I am sweating now... Fresh install time?22:56
CJKayThanks22:56
ActionParsnip!bug | TRAVISg22:57
ubottuTRAVISg: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.22:57
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: reinstall.....for a browser...?22:57
TRAVISgActionParsnip I thought that the failure to be able to report the bug might mean that there is a bigger problem22:58
TRAVISgActionParsnip I am not very knowledgeable...yet22:59
ActionParsnipTRAVISg: there is a web interface you can use22:59
narutoslt tt monde23:04
KaleidoscopeIs it possible to install an OS through ubuntu on to a second HD Partition?23:04
icerootKaleidoscope: no23:05
icerootKaleidoscope: maybe with a vm which is writing directly to the hdd23:05
icerootKaleidoscope: but normally the os boot cd is the way to go23:06
iceroot!dualboot | Kaleidoscope23:06
ubottuKaleidoscope: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot23:06
Kaleidoscopeiceroot, I would agree here, But my Laptops Disk drive has failed, and I don't have me a handy usb stick23:07
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KaleidoscopeHow might one go the VM route?23:07
CJKayKaleidoscope: Set up a VMDK file that links to /dev/sd*23:08
KaleidoscopeCJKay, Alright, I'll give it a go, Thanks23:08
CJKayMind, how exactly are you running the laptop if the drive has failed and you don't have a USB stick handy?23:08
CJKayLive CD?23:09
KaleidoscopeNo, I already have linux installed on here, I just like to have a second one installed23:09
DarsVaedahow do I report kernel error? the newest kernel gives my machine a lot headaches, dozen of apps chrash on random events, but how do I report that?23:12
icerootDarsVaeda: ubuntu-bug linux23:14
phil_flDarsVaeda, you sure it is kernel errors ? you know a lot of people are running it and so wants to start some troubleshooting ? (just saying)23:14
icerootDarsVaeda: just use that command and apport will assist you23:14
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DarsVaedasure, I switched back to the older one and everything works as expected23:14
DarsVaedathough maybe some memory failure first too, but after that, I'm sure23:15
DarsVaedaiceroot: thanks23:15
phil_flDarsVaeda, ok, good start did you modify anything ?what happens during crash ? do you have core dumps ? do the application go away ?23:15
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DarsVaedamainly segfaults in chrome (at least it says so), in the kernellog there is only cryptic lines (for me) about some IP thing23:16
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phil_flDarsVaeda, ok well it is difficult to help you, but you can report or if you have some logs anything in /var/log/messages ?23:21
MalsasaHello, last night I have browsing with Oneiric. Then I don't know why, Unity crashed (strange) and I do sudo reboot. After reboot, I enter my password in LightDM. Appear black screen with so many messages (just 0.5 second) and the appearance back to LightDM. I enter my password again but the condition is same. I have tried this for +- 10 times. How to fix this? Thank you.23:22
BryanRuizMy iphone 4s pops up shotwell, bansee and two folders every time I plug the damn thing into me 11.4 with gnome.  What is the command to disable this?23:22
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DarsVaedaphil_fl: I will reboot into the failing kernel and check the logs, there are errors in it23:23
phil_flDarsVaeda you can check no need to reboot now23:23
ReplicantMalsasa, can you log in with another user?23:24
MalsasaYes.23:24
MalsasaBut appearance after login just a panel at top without any menu and any dash.23:24
KingFisherHello...How do I route my browser through a shell account using a *nix OS?23:25
Replicanttry to reset compiz config for that user23:26
KingFisherI need to make an HTTP proxy23:26
KingFisherbasically23:26
MalsasaUnity DE is not appear, and maximum I can login to guest GNOME Classic only. But I want the complete one Unity. I don't know why my Unity become like this.23:26
MalsasaReplicant, how to reset Compiz?23:26
Replicantbut first, to be sure23:26
MalsasaReplicant, to be sure...?23:27
Replicantcan you log in with gnome 3 shell, xfce or another desktop environment?23:27
XGaryGIs there a setting somewhere for the system to remember where windows were? So my browser or whatever will reappear wherever they were before?23:27
MalsasaJust GNOME Classic in guest account.23:27
Replicantbut the other account is broken also for GNOME Classic?23:28
guest-MO894kjj23:28
MalsasaReplicant, do you know what problem I have? I don't know why this problem happened.23:28
guest-MO894küüü23:28
KingFisherHow do I route my browser traffic through a shell account in Ubuntu?23:28
KingFisherCan I make an HTTP proxy with a shell account in Ubuntu?23:28
MalsasaReplicant, persistant. Another account shows only a bar on top but I can't access any menu.23:29
Replicanttry this one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-reset-compiz-settings-to-default-system-settings-from-command-line.html23:29
fishcookeractionparsnip, no luck here23:29
MalsasaReplicant, thank you. I am opening your link.23:29
ReplicantI had similar issue when playing with Compiz Malsasa23:29
Replicantno windows, no dock... etc23:30
MalsasaReplicant, hmmm, suddenly the Unity dead, no dock, no menu, like that?23:30
spaceneedleThe top utility was reporting high cpu usage -18%--for Hud-service. It is now normal.23:30
Replicantexactly23:30
GrivvelDoes anyone know why my computer would be dropping about one out of every two packets when the wireless signal is above 40/70 signal strength in iwconfig? If I just try to ping the router, about half the messages are dropped.23:30
Replicantso could be the same23:31
MalsasaOKay, I will try this.23:31
DarsVaedaphil_fl: here is an example: http://pastebin.com/Ai2CzsUV23:31
fishcookeri cant update to PP23:31
fishcookerno luck still23:31
fishcookeranyone23:31
fishcookerwith command line23:31
beandogGrivvel: try changing your channel23:31
demonboyis 12.04 still in ubntu +! for support23:32
MalsasaI have to restart. Thank you for your complete attention, Replicant.23:32
ActionParsnipfishcooker: can you give the output of:   sudo do-release-upgrade -d     Thanks23:33
jeremiah_why does ubuntu keep freezing for me???23:33
fishcookeri've closed it23:33
phil_flDarsVaeda, you have 2 graphic cards ?23:33
ActionParsnipfishcooker: rerun it.....23:33
fishcookerit said screen terminating23:33
DarsVaedanot that I know of23:33
phil_flDarsVaeda, lokks like a problem in  libpthread-2.13.so23:36
DarsVaedagot another two, nothing about any lib, just general protection23:37
phil_flDarsVaeda, well yes use apport information to report it23:38
DarsVaedausually happend in browser either firefox or chrome with java, so I thought thats the problem but minutes ago it crashed nautilus while trying to load a folder with videos23:38
DarsVaedanow it crashed the bug reporter with segmentation fault...^^23:39
DarsVaedanope can not report it via the tool, only get segfaults :(23:40
phil_flDarsVaeda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/97282123:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 972821 in linux (Ubuntu) "[oneiric-proposed] linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser segfault on startup" [High,Confirmed]23:42
anadonHello!  I need some help getting my system to boot.  /boot got formatted, so kernel images and grub are gone.23:43
DarsVaedaphil_fl: oh yep got an thinkpad too, seems to be my problem, thanks23:44
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phil_flDarsVaeda, seems that http://people.canonical.com/~herton/fpu_bug/ might fix your bug or wait a bit and it will be fixed23:45
DarsVaedaI'll try that too23:46
phil_flDarsVaeda, that's only if you need this kernel though you might be ok like you are now23:46
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DarsVaedaahh its not my productive machine so I can "beta"-test23:48
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alteregodhi23:53
alteregodi got  a weird message on my desktop, its darmok and jalad at tanagra, after i installed riker v.123:53
serokiwebsite is down episode 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlbrL1H1ngs&feature=plcp&context=C45f84b9VDvjVQa1PpcFMLYcWz_aNNAImt-TvC3hd8nv8D4PHDfuA=23:58

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