[00:00] <viktor> skel, did the following, is that correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/foto1.JPG
[00:00] <viktor> skel, i need to reboot now?
[00:00] <daniellog> so if I use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID for server 11.10 I should get it working with raid?
[00:01] <skel> viktor: no it should be immediate, the first path is known to gnome and isn't directly relative to the filesystem. The second is. So if you do ls -l /Pictures/foto1.JPG does that exist?
[00:01] <ajin> why my adsl speed is so slow under ubuntu10.04 while 10.10 is much more faster?
[00:01] <viktor> skel, yes, i already ls that directory, i'll try another pic
[00:02] <viktor> skel,?: viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/30062012.jpg
[00:02] <viktor> viktor@viktor-laptop:~$: command not found
[00:03] <skel> viktor: I'm trying to find a script I used to have in cron that rotated through a dir of wallpapers
[00:03] <psusi> there's no need for a separate /boot drive
[00:03] <psusi> daniellog, what are you trying to do now?  is this fakeraid or software raid?
[00:03] <skel> viktor: you miscopied..
[00:04] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....
[00:04] <daniellog> well I've been told fakeraid now, hang on I'll try and get a spec of my board and find out what chipset it is
[00:05] <sacarlson> psusi: he's using /dev/mapper so that implies he's setting up a linux soft raid
[00:05] <sckauter> what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?
[00:05] <psusi> sacarlson, no, /dev/mapper is fakeraid, or LVM... /dev/mdXX is soft raid
[00:06] <daniellog> The board I'm using is a ASRock N68C-S
[00:06] <viktor> skel, is this correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /Pictures/30062012.jpg
[00:06] <tyler_d> hello there folks. breaking stuff I hope
[00:06] <psusi> daniellog, if you are trying to use the chipset raid, then it's fakeraid... are you dual booting with windows?
[00:06] <sckauter> i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:06] <daniellog> no, just trying to install ubuntu server
[00:06] <skel> viktor: yeah as long as you're not putting the viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ part
[00:06] <Foggalong> Hey
[00:06] <viktor> skel, no
[00:06] <Foggalong> Can anyone help me
[00:06] <tyler_d> sure
[00:07] <tyler_d> Foggalong: where are you at?
[00:07] <psusi> daniellog, then I would avoid the fakeraid junk... destroy the raid array in the bios and proceed with a normal ubuntu server software raid setup
[00:07] <Foggalong> With a basic outline for installing programs
[00:07] <Foggalong> I've got complely lost in it all
[00:07] <Monotoko> does anyone know how I can get an installable Thunderbird 11 for Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:08] <tyler_d> Foggalong: I need to know more then that plz, what application are you trying to install?
[00:08] <daniellog> ok cool, could anyone point me to some tutorial or something on setting this up?
[00:08] <daniellog> software raid that is
[00:08] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:08] <Foggalong> Way of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird
[00:08] <psusi> daniellog, I think someone already pasted the link... scroll up a bit
[00:08] <Ashtray777> I need to install Ubuntu today.  Should I install 11.1 or 12.04?
[00:08] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Way of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird
[00:09] <daniellog> yes but its for 9.10, will this work with 11.10?
[00:09] <tyler_d> Foggalong: this is on server?
[00:09] <psusi> Ashtray777, depends on whether you want to install a beta or not
[00:09] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I can't seem to get either to work
[00:09] <Foggalong> tyler_d: No
[00:09] <psusi> daniellog, should
[00:09] <mkultra_> mozilla needs to bring back the calender
[00:09] <tyler_d> Foggalong: sorry, mixed up there with someone... how are nyou trying to install? 32 or 64?
[00:10] <tyler_d> mkultra_: lightning
[00:10] <Ashtray777> I dont mind it being Beta, but will it be a smooth transition to the 12.4 Final release or will I need a fresh install of 12.4 anyway regardless if I already have the Beta installed
[00:10] <Foggalong> tyler_d: As far as I know, 32
[00:10] <psusi> daniellog, the gist of it is that you tell the installer to create a raid array out of the individual disks, then install to the raid array
[00:10] <daniellog> ok thanks guys for your help, I'll try the software raid
[00:10] <zykotick9> !final | Ashtray777
[00:10] <sckauter> what is the latest stable kernel for ubuntu 10.04?
[00:10] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you installing from terminal or from the software center?
[00:10] <mkultra_> the mozilla calendar was boss
[00:11] <Ashtray777> zykotick9, I understand that all the packages will be updated.  But some people prefer a fresh install.
[00:11] <zykotick9> !info linux-image lucid | sckauter
[00:11] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Well, neither are in the software centre so I'll have to say from terminal. Which is where I get stuck.
[00:11] <viktor> skel, viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[00:11] <zykotick9> Ashtray777: from beta->final isn't an upgrade (fresh install doesn't apply in this case)
[00:11] <d[-_-]b> Hello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle
[00:11] <tyler_d> Foggalong: ok, so you downloaded the package(s) and extracted to where please?
[00:11] <viktor> skel, that didn't come through
[00:12] <Ashtray777> zyotick9 oh okay thanks!  That explains it!  Much appreciated!
[00:12] <zykotick9> !tab > Ashtray777 fyi
[00:12] <viktor> skel, that command returned the path of a pic i was trying to use to replace the vector-based one
[00:12] <Foggalong> tyler_d: both are on the desktop
[00:12] <skel> viktor: hm ok, I don't use gnome2 anymore so I can't test this. Maybe try to keep asking and I'll see if I can find my old script
[00:13] <viktor> skel, so i'm gonna try a reboot, maybe it takes affect then
[00:13] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:13] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so in the terminal when you cd to ~/Desktop/<<folder>> you are running which?
[00:13] <mkultra_> ....
[00:13] <sckauter> and i dont know what im doing wrong
[00:13] <Ashtray777> zykotick9, yes the tab key.  thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten.
[00:13] <tyler_d> Foggalong: and what is the output?
[00:13] <mkultra_> gksu jockey-gtk
[00:13] <mkultra_> install drivers via jockey
[00:14] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Sorry, I don't understand what you just said :(
[00:15] <tyler_d> Foggalong: in the terminal, you changed directory and ran what command?
[00:15] <BathOryx> tyler_d: I thought the cd command doesn't return anything.
[00:15] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I didn't do anything in terminal, but as they're not in the centre I think that will be the way to install them
[00:16] <Foggalong> tyler_d: But I don't have a clue how to even begin
[00:17] <viktor> that didn't work...
[00:18] <skel> viktor: I found the script I used, putting it up on pastebin
[00:18] <skel> viktor: don't get your hopes up though, it just uses the same tool =/
[00:18] <Viking667> has anyone ever managed to get mpd to work as a service using pulseaudio?
[00:19] <tensorpudding> yes
[00:19] <tensorpudding> once upon a time i was using mpd and pulseaudio
[00:19] <Viking667> ... because I'm having the devil's own time trying to do so. mpd is outright unable to connect to the pulseaudio server, end of.
[00:19] <viktor> skel, hmm, thnks, strange that it hasn't worked yet though, the path for the wallpaper is set for what it's supposed to be now
[00:20] <Viking667> funnily enough, the only way I can get this to work is if I set up mpd to use alsa instead. Which plays havoc with everything else wanting to use pulseaudio
[00:20] <tyler_d> Foggalong: umm you need to do cd ~/Desktop/
[00:20] <skel> viktor: http://pastebin.com/xJvjve5e
[00:20] <kandinski> ls
[00:20] <tyler_d> Foggalong: wahts the name of the folder... sorry for the delay, just on the phone
[00:20] <Viking667> tensorpudding: do you remember what steps you took?
[00:20] <viktor> skel, thnks, btw,  you don't need to sudo for gconftool-2?
[00:20] <Tasmania> Hey.
[00:21] <tyler_d> BathOryx: no cd does not return anything
[00:21] <Tasmania> If I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox.
[00:21] <skel> viktor: nope, not if its your desktop and not another users session
[00:21] <kandinski> I can't import pygame from python3 on ubuntu 11.10
[00:21] <Viking667> oh, and I don't seem to have a "System" menu either, just "Applications" and "Places"
[00:21] <Tasmania> How can I connect my vps through putty?
[00:21] <Foggalong> tyler_d:
[00:22] <Tasmania> If I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox, how can I connect to my vps through putty?
[00:22] <Foggalong> The folders are called sunbird
[00:22] <Foggalong> tyler_d: It's fine. The folders are called sunbird and n_v1linux
[00:22] <Viking667> I"ll be right back, while I change things back to normal
[00:22] <tyler_d> Tasmania: bridged network?
[00:22] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so cd into sunbird
[00:23] <sacarlson> Tasmania: install openssh-server on your virtualbox host
[00:23] <Tasmania> ok.
[00:23] <Tasmania> tutorial link?
[00:23] <Viking667> Bah. I need to log out, as I'm changing /etc/passwd... every time I change thatsucker, everything on my desktop gets logged out.
[00:23] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh ;
[00:23] <tyler_d> openssh-server
[00:24] <sacarlson> opps openssh-server
[00:24] <Tasmania> I
[00:24] <tyler_d> ;) sacarlson
[00:24] <Tasmania> I'm using a GUI-based one, not a command line.
[00:24] <Foggalong> tyler_d: ok, done that
[00:25] <Viking667> sorry about that, all.
[00:25] <zykotick9> sacarlson: tyler_d "ssh" is a handy meta-package with both client and server
[00:25] <Tasmania> How can I instlall open-ssh into my virtual box?
[00:25] <tyler_d> Foggalong: pastebin the output of `ls` please
[00:25] <tyler_d> zykotick9: ty
[00:25] <sacarlson> Tasmania: wow do you know how to open a terminal in your vitualbox host?
[00:25] <tyler_d> zykotick9: would ubuntu by default not contain client?
[00:26] <Viking667> tyler_d: probably
[00:26] <sckauter> What this mean?
[00:26] <urbancommando> lol
[00:26] <Tasmania> How can I open a terminal?
[00:26] <sckauter> sckauter@Uby:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:26] <sckauter> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[00:26] <sckauter> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[00:26] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Sorry, but you're going to have to explain that in lamens terms. I've not used terminal before
[00:26] <zykotick9> tyler_d: not sure... depends if you start with mini or not ;)
[00:26] <tyler_d> zykotick9: fair enough
[00:26] <tyler_d> Foggalong: type, ls
[00:26] <gdoteof> so.. i have ubuntu 11.10  i am running gnome with xmonad as my window manager; no unity.  i was having this problem before switching to xmonad though.  i have a trackpad, i have turned off tap-to-click and turned on two finger scrolling
[00:26] <Tasmania> How can I open my terminal sorry I just got this thing today.
[00:26] <tyler_d> Foggalong: then copy the output of that command to !pastebin
[00:26] <gdoteof> but approximately half the time i boot up my computer; tap-to-click is on, and side scroling instead of two finger scrolling is enabled
[00:26] <tyler_d> !pastebin
[00:27] <sacarlson> Tasmania: if you select the window of the virtualbox system you should be able to <ctl><alt> t ;  to open a term window in it
[00:27] <Tasmania> ok
[00:27] <Tasmania> thanks!
[00:27] <Foggalong> tyler_d: what's !pastebin?
[00:27] <gdoteof> it seems that half the time that i boot up, the 'defaults' load and the other half its as i set them. it makes no sense.
[00:27] <tyler_d> !pastebin | Foggalong
[00:28] <Viking667> Foggalong: it's a message to a bot here to cough up a factlet.
[00:28] <Viking667>  i.e. ubottu.
[00:28] <Viking667> !help
[00:28] <Viking667> see how it works now?
[00:28] <Tasmania> It's still not working.
[00:28] <Tasmania> Nothing is coming up
[00:28] <taek> Ohai
[00:28] <tyler_d> taek: ohai
[00:29] <Tasmania> sacarlson I did what you said and nothing is still coming up.
[00:29] <taek> forgot irssi was running lol
[00:29] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I don't understand. How do I go to !pastebin?
[00:29] <gdoteof> Tasmania: i believe ctrl+alt+t will open a terminal
[00:29] <tyler_d> Foggalong: click the link from above.
[00:29] <sacarlson> Tasmania: what version of ubuntu are you running in virtualbox?
[00:29] <gdoteof> maybe ctrl+shift+t
[00:29] <Viking667> Foggalong: first off, you go to the link in that line (http://paste.ubuntu.com) in a web browser.
[00:29] <Tasmania> I'm using Oracle VM Virtualboc Manager.
[00:30] <urbancommando> lol
[00:30] <Viking667> Foggalong: then you go back to the terminal, type in the command (ls >> outputfile) and switch back to the browser.
[00:30] <Viking667> then you paste the contents of outputfile into the right place on the webpage
[00:31] <sacarlson> Tasmania: no I mean what is running inside the vitual manager what verson of ubuntu ?
[00:31] <Tasmania> hmm.
[00:31] <Viking667> Foggalong: does that all make sense?
[00:31] <Tasmania> ohh
[00:31] <Tasmania> I'm using 11.04
[00:32] <sacarlson> Tasmania: then it will be running unity so you can hit that top symbol along the side called dash home
[00:32] <AMIGAS> what is dock?
[00:32] <Foggalong> Viking667: I think so thanks :)
[00:33] <Viking667> AMIGAS: you haven't given us enough context.
[00:33] <Foggalong> tyler_d: This is what I go http://paste.ubuntu.com/915359/
[00:33] <sacarlson> Tasmania: and type term in the search and select term icon when it is displayed
[00:33] <Monotoko> bye all!
[00:33] <Tasmania> wait.
[00:33] <Tasmania> It's still opening.
[00:33] <Viking667>  Foggalong you might have to display your file in some sort of editing program so you can cut and paste it into the page
[00:33] <sacarlson> Tasmania: oh it wasn't running yet?
[00:33] <Tasmania> nope.
[00:34] <Tasmania> Alright now it's running.
[00:34] <sacarlson> Tasmania: then maybe it's not even installed yet?
[00:34] <Viking667> If you've got gedit, you could use that. But any GUI editing program ought to work
[00:34] <AMIGAS> viking667: when you go in openbox configure manager you will see it
[00:34] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so what happens when you just type ./sunbird
[00:34] <Viking667> hm. Thank you. I don't use openbox, that's why I asked.
[00:34] <Viking667> because the term "dock" has multiple meanings.
[00:35] <AMIGAS> oh
[00:35] <djskidd> hello all
[00:35] <Tasmania> Alright now I've opened terminal.
[00:35] <djskidd> I may need your help in a half hour to an hour
[00:35] <Viking667> AMIGAS: as in, it's used for an action as well as a place
[00:35] <Tasmania> sacarlson I've opened up terminal.
[00:36] <sacarlson> Tasmania: are you just running a live cd in virtualbox or is it already installed inside it?
[00:36] <Viking667> anyway, I'm heading off, I can't seem to get my head around playing music AND getting audio out of another program
[00:36] <Tasmania> Installed
[00:36] <Foggalong> tyler_d: It opens! :O Sunbird just opens. Will it always work like that? And can I just do the same for other programs?
[00:36] <AMIGAS> viking667: it houses apps
[00:36] <heater89> if i use the system call "sbrk()" and it returns a void*, how can i check that it hasn't returned -1 without getting a "comparison between pointer and integer" compiler error?
[00:36] <sacarlson> Tasmania: ok then you should now be able to install openssh-server
[00:36] <tyler_d> Foggalong: some applications require that you "install" them
[00:37] <Tasmania> What's the command?
[00:37] <tyler_d> Foggalong: others will simply run
[00:37] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I don't seem to be able to keep a Sunbird icon in the launch bar
[00:37] <tyler_d> Foggalong: different people have different opinions on where stand-alone apps should be kept but mine are all in /opt/
[00:37] <sacarlson> Tasmania: I forget I will have to scroll my window up to find it
[00:37] <Tasmania> ok
[00:38] <djskidd> Is anyone seeding the torrent for 12.04?
[00:38] <tyler_d> Foggalong: that I don't know about
[00:38] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you saying while its running
[00:38] <djskidd> Nvm,  it seems that uTorrent is laggy today
[00:39] <Foggalong> No
[00:39] <Foggalong> When it's not
[00:39] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:39] <Foggalong> tyler_d: No, when it's not
[00:40] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I can't keep a permenant icon to it
[00:40] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you talking about a quick launch
[00:40] <tyler_d> Foggalong: ahh
[00:40] <Tasmania> Now what do I do?
[00:40] <Tasmania> sacarlson: what do I do now?
[00:41] <sacarlson> Tasmania: so it installed ok?
[00:41] <Tasmania> yes.
[00:41] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Yeah, quick launch! Yeah, sorry. Still quite new to all this
[00:41] <sacarlson> Tasmania: so now find out what your ip address of your virtualhost is with  the command  ifconfig
[00:41] <Tasmania> ipconfig
[00:41] <Tasmania> oops
[00:42] <Tasmania> Now what's my IP?
[00:42] <urbancommando> lol
[00:42] <Guest65025> hi
[00:42] <sacarlson> Tasmania: it will be the inet address example inet addr:192.168.2.250
[00:43] <Tasmania> I've found it.
[00:43] <Tasmania> now do I login with root in putty?
[00:43] <pla> Hi. I just installed 12.04 beta 2. Why does it ask to go through a partial upgrade when I start-up the Update Manager?
[00:43] <sacarlson> Tasmania: yes now you can login to that address from putty
[00:43] <Tasmania> ok
[00:43] <tyler_d> Foggalong: alt-f2 then
[00:43] <tyler_d> gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[00:44] <bazhang> pla #ubuntu+1 for that
[00:44] <pla> k
[00:44] <Tasmania> The connection is timing out?
[00:45] <Tasmania> why is that?
[00:45] <tyler_d> Foggalong: nm
[00:45] <Tasmania> sacarlson: is it under local or whatever eth0 is?
[00:45] <sacarlson> Tasmania: I'm not sure can you ping that address from windows?
[00:45] <tyler_d> Foggalong: tbh I have never done that, I would recommend asking anyone else in here
[00:45] <sacarlson> Tasmania: you should use the eth0 address
[00:45] <Tasmania> yeah, I used that.
[00:46] <Tasmania> And It's not working.
[00:46] <sacarlson> Tasmania: no ping?
[00:46] <Tasmania> How can I ping it?
[00:46] <Foggalong> Can anyone help with a problem I'm having? The quicklaunch icon for Sunbird goes dead everytime I close the program
[00:46] <Foggalong> tyler_d: THanks for all the help :)
[00:46] <sacarlson> Tasmania: from a term in windows  ping <theeth0address>
[00:47] <bazhang> Foggalong, what about right click keep on panel
[00:47] <tyler_d> Foggalong: yqw, try
[00:47] <tyler_d> yay, what bazhang just said
[00:47] <Tasmania> Now how can I do that what do I open/run?
[00:47] <Foggalong> bazhang: Yeah, that get's it there, but then that just goes dead if I close the program
[00:47] <sacarlson> Tasmania: you don't know how to open a command window in windows?
[00:48] <Tasmania> I do.
[00:48] <urbancommando> Tasmania use the command prompt
[00:48] <Tasmania> command prompt
[00:48] <Tasmania> ^
[00:48] <Tasmania> oh ok.
[00:48] <Tasmania> You should've said "open the command prompt" you didn't clarify yourself.
[00:49] <BathOryx> urbancommando: I thought that's called a terminal...
[00:49] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sorry I'm not savy to windows terminology
[00:49] <Tasmania> It says Request timed out.
[00:49] <BathOryx> Oh nvm...
[00:49] <Tasmania> It keeps saying that in the command window.
[00:50] <sacarlson> Tasmania: and what is the address of the virtualbox?
[00:50] <urbancommando> Bath0ryx hes trying to ping from window to a ubuntu vituralbox
[00:50] <Ganymede> Question about the iptables-persistent package...it looks like in /etc/init.d/iptables-persistent, only v4 rules are restored by the init script so what of v6 rules?
[00:52] <z1lla> split
[00:53] <GH0> I am currently using iptables, however after a restart, my iptables list gets wiped/cleaned from something (not sure what). Is there a place to put an iptables command to automatically be accepted/used/applied after a reboot?
[00:53] <z1lla> good question
[00:53] <sacarlson> Tasmania:  I guess you need to find out how to enable networks on virtualbox in windows some how
[00:54] <sacarlson> Tasmania: or it's posible you have some kind of firewall running on the windows side that could cause a problem
[00:54] <Tasmania> Yeah I do.
[00:54] <superjoe> where's the wine menu in unity?
[00:54] <Tasmania> I have firewall enabled.
[00:56] <Ganymede> GH0: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup although it makes absolutely no mention of ip6tables oddly.
[00:57] <tlab> anyone dual booted ubuntu and win7 on a ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3.. I'm worried due to the uefi that I won't be able to install it or I'll loose dual boot
[00:57] <boxbeatsy> hi, my ubuntu 10.04 will not boot! when i restart it, it starts loading grub and i get this message: "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. No init fount. Try passing init= bootarg."  any ideas?
[00:58] <boxbeatsy> i'v tried booting from a live usb to see what's wrong, but then i get stuck on the splash screen, which i think is an independent problem.  any hep would be greatly appreciated.
[01:04] <Tasmania> How can I install Irssi in the terminal?
[01:04] <Firebolt> Tasmania, sudo apt-get install irssi
[01:04] <decksmasher> tasmania   apt-get install irssi
[01:05] <sckauter> i cant fix my screen resolution
[01:05] <bazhang> sckauter, using xrandr ?
[01:05] <chipv12> i am having trouble figuring out how to setup vpn connection between my laptop and a desktop at home.  i would like to access all functions of my desktop remotely including web cam if connected.  also run programs remotely as if using remote desktop viewer.  is this possible?
[01:05] <sckauter> xrandr?
[01:06] <sckauter> sorry i dunno what is xrand
[01:06] <Tasmania> Thanks it works!
[01:06] <sckauter> im using ubuntu 10.04, machine Alienware Mx17 r3
[01:07] <bazhang> !xrandr | sckauter
[01:07] <sckauter> install uninstall nvidia drivers
[01:07] <sckauter> bazhang,  but i just have 1 screen
[01:07] <sckauter> ok im going try
[01:10] <decksmasher> Tasmania when u downloaded it the files will be hidden so go in to the directory where its downloaded IE./home/yourname and press ctrl + h and the hidden files will appear there u can put in new themes for irssi
[01:11] <hylian> hmm, irssi has themes. i would think it a mute point being a cli app.
[01:11] <sckauter> this is so frustrating
[01:11] <Tasmania> For any reason everytime I click on the text box for Irssi and type in "F" it doesn't type in the text box, but rather goes to the "Find" tab.
[01:11] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5 to no avail, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escabe at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?
[01:11] <sckauter> smoke...brb...
[01:11] <hylian> Tasmania, did you type f3?
[01:12] <decksmasher> yes irssi themes are here http://irssi.org/themes
[01:12] <Tasmania> Nope
[01:12] <Tasmania> hylian it's doing the same thing.
[01:13] <Tasmania> Nothing has changes.
[01:13] <Tasmania> *changed
[01:13] <Firebolt> Tasmania, "f" or "F" or both?
[01:13] <Tasmania> both
[01:13] <decksmasher> tasmania x-chat is easier to use.?
[01:13] <Tasmania> everytim I press f at all it does it.
[01:14] <hylian> so even if you click on the field for typeing, type your statement, and then start typing again, it defaults to the search section?... I think I need to be in irssi to visualise this, brb
[01:14] <Tasmania> yes.
[01:14] <Tasmania> I can't type anything.
[01:14] <Tasmania> It just goes to the tabs.
[01:14] <Tasmania> If I type in "s" it goes to the "search" tab
[01:15] <Tasmania> If I type in "e" it goes to the "Edit" tab
[01:15] <Tasmania> If I type in "v" it goes to the "view" tab
[01:15] <Galaxor> Is there a way to lock my gnome-keyring?  As it is, I type my password once, and my gpg key stays unlocked until I log out.
[01:15] <Tasmania> You get my point?
[01:16] <urbancommando> try clicking on the text field and hit the enter key before typing
[01:16] <hylian> ok i am here via irssi
[01:16] <Tasmania> Nothing.
[01:17] <hylian> Tasmania: what search option? i don't see it?
[01:17] <Tasmania> It
[01:17] <Tasmania> It's not a search option.
[01:17] <Sactage> hylian: perhaps it's an issue with terminal
[01:17] <Sactage> s/terminal/his terminal/
[01:17] <Sactage> I'm on irssi right now as well, no problems here
[01:17] <hylian> Sactage: yeah, that is definetly a possibility.
[01:18] <Sactage> Sounds like it]
[01:18] <hylian> Tasmania: are you using a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, or are you tty'ed in via control alt f1, for instance?
[01:19] <Tasmania> terminal emulator.
[01:19] <Sactage> works fine for me in gnome-terminal
[01:19] <Tasmania> It's probably something that is enabled.
[01:19] <hylian> Tasmania: is there a way we could get a screen shot of this?
[01:19] <Sactage> (but I'm also ssh'd in to my box and on screen)
[01:20] <Tasmania> It's not that complicated.
[01:20] <Tasmania> I just need to press a button somewhere.
[01:20] <Sactage> find it?
[01:20] <hylian> Sactage: actually, i am using gnome-terminal as well. and I also use irssi quite often from tty, so either way i don't get this error... hmmm
[01:21] <Sactage> mhm, I've never had problems from tty either
[01:21] <hylian> Tasmania: if you hit print screen, or prtsc on the top right of your keyboard, you should get an option for screenshot. or if you hear a camera shutter sound, it automatically saved it to /home/tasmania/Pictures/
[01:22] <Sactage> hylian: the shutter sound doesn't mean it auto-saves, it still brings the prompt for where to save it to me
[01:22] <Tasmania> It's fixed.
[01:23] <Tasmania> All I needed to press was "ctrl+alt"
[01:23] <Tasmania> Thank you for your help :D
[01:23] <hylian> Sactage: unless you messed around with the settings like me, in which case it autosaves. i don't know how much tweaking tas has done.
[01:23] <anonymous_> which room should i go to for server help?
[01:24] <zykotick9> anonymous_: ubuntu server?  here, or #ubuntu-server.
[01:24] <excelsior> !ot
[01:24] <hylian> anonymous_: don't know. if it's ubuntu-server, i would think technically this would be the place. let me search the channels to see if i can find a specific room
[01:24] <z1lla> hi
[01:24] <anonymous_> well i hope to make my desktop be a server
[01:25] <hylian> excelsior: um, who is off topic?
[01:25] <hylian> zilla: hi
[01:25] <excelsior> !guidelines | excelsior
[01:25] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > excelsior
[01:25] <hylian> anonymous_: well, in many ways it all ready is. you would have to be way more specific about that question.
[01:25] <mkultra_> hi im back, im usually off topic =D
[01:26] <mkultra_> unetbootin is a GREAT util
[01:26] <anonymous_> well i have an old compaq desktop and i want it to be basically just a network or online storage device
[01:26] <anonymous_> and devote it to just that
[01:27] <Sactage> hylian: well, it'd probably best to assume he's done none, then :)
[01:28] <hylian> anonymous_: well if it's just going to sit in a corner and feed data, you are definitly gonna want to go back to ubuntu.com and get the server edition. it will be so much less crashy. unless you need/want a gui.
[01:28] <anonymous_> ok thnx
[01:28] <hylian> Sactage: i think tas is gone.
[01:29] <hylian> Tasmania: how is the screenshot coming along?
[01:29] <Tasmania> It's nothing it's ok now.
[01:29] <Tasmania> It's fixed.
[01:30] <Tasmania> I fixed it by pressing "alt+ctrl"
[01:30] <hylian> Tasmania: good to hear it. :)
[01:30] <Tasmania> It's good now.
[01:30] <hylian> in that case im gonna go back to xchat.
[01:31] <hylian> has anyone else been using indicator-weather? it sure is crashy in 12.04 beta.
[01:32] <zykotick9> hylian: if you are using 12.04 please use #ubuntu+1 for support
[01:32] <allie83> is there another room for xubuntu?
[01:33] <bazhang> #xubuntu allie83
[01:33] <allie83> :) thanks
[01:34] <hylian> zykotick9, it was more of a "i noticed this" not a support quetion, but thanks zykotick9.
[01:34] <chipv12> is it possible to remotely access and control my desktop from internet securely with my laptop without subscribing to a service?
[01:34] <zykotick9> hylian: ok, then please use #ubuntu+1 for discussion ;)
[01:34] <Zal> chipv12, absolutely
[01:35] <Zal> chipv12, you can use ssh for secure command line
[01:35] <zykotick9> Zal: ssh also has xforwarding for GUI... just sayin'.  chipv12
[01:35] <Zal> chipv12, and vnc or nx tunneled over ssh for remote graphical access
[01:35] <Zal> zykotick9, true that
[01:35] <Zal> though nx is probably a bit smoother
[01:36] <x_chr> Hi. My CD Drive has a disc in it. Disk Utility shows it (/dev/sr0), but pressing Eject gives "No media in drive" error, the physical eject button does nothing, and trying to mount /dev/sr0 seems to hang. The 'eject' command says "unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'" Any suggestions?
[01:36] <mydogsnameisrudy> chipv12:  look up teamview
[01:36] <Zal> I use X forwarding over ssh for LAN stuff all the time though
[01:36] <chipv12> i have been trying to setup a vpn but cant seem to get it right
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escape at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?
[01:37] <decksmasher> x_chr try using force quit
[01:37] <hylian> x_chr, never heard of that before. i could do some digging if you like. can you read any data from that cd?
[01:37] <z1lla> facedesk
[01:37] <Chartreuse> PossessedMuffin
[01:37] <x_chr> decksmasher: force quit what?
[01:37] <x_chr> hylian: I'd check on a different computer if I could open the drive :) It has read discs in the past successfully.
[01:40] <hylian> x_chr, well i was not referring to the device. hmmm. for now if you have a paperclip, you can put it in the small hole on the front of the device, and then open it that way.
[01:41] <hylian> x_chr, i have seen this when people accidentally insert 2 cd's in a one cd tray.
[01:42] <chipv12> i'll look at teamview again, but doesnt that require oking at each pc every time they connect?
[01:42] <x_chr> hylian: Pretty sure I didn't do that, but I'm working on forcing it open now.
[01:43] <boxbeatsy> anyone? :\
[01:44] <Tasmania> What is the sudo script for Xchat?
[01:44] <Tasmania> *What is the sudo command for X-chat?
[01:44] <AMIGAS> sudo apt-get install x-chart
[01:45] <z1lla> lol
[01:45] <x_chr> hylian: I'm going to restart my computer and open it while it boots. be back.
[01:45] <z1lla> sudo x-chat
[01:45] <z1lla> sudo su
[01:45] <z1lla> then history -c
[01:45] <z1lla> errr
[01:45] <z1lla> i spoke too much
[01:46] <bazhang> z1lla, no thats wrong
[01:46] <z1lla> what is it then?
[01:46] <bazhang> z1lla, first of all you never use xchat as root, second you never use su
[01:46] <chipv12> took notes doing some more reading....thanks
[01:47] <z1lla> i was just answering the fella's question
[01:47] <bazhang> z1lla, he wanted to know the terminal command to *install* xchat
[01:47] <hylian> zilla, you must use sudo or be cursed. kidding :)
[01:48] <z1lla> lol i didnt read the entire chat
[01:48] <hylian> zilla, sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:48] <z1lla> pardon my english
[01:48] <bazhang> z1lla, then please dont answer if you are not certain
[01:48] <Coffee_> alguem aqui poderia me ajudar?
[01:48] <z1lla> sorry
[01:48] <z1lla> i'll leave if it happens again
[01:48] <hylian> someone please tell Coffee_ how to get to the spanish channel
[01:49] <hylian> zilla, we apprecaite your interest in helping :)
[01:49] <hylian> !sp
[01:49] <hylian> !spanish
[01:49] <Tasmania> Even sudo apt-get install xchat doesn't want to work.
[01:50] <hylian> Tasmania, what does it do?
[01:50] <x_chr> hylian: Hmm... as suspected, it depends on the disc. Are you aware of a situation where certain disks cause the drive to stop working properly?
[01:50] <Tasmania> oh never mind
[01:50] <Tasmania> some dude gave me X-chat instead of xchat
[01:51] <hylian> x_chr, no. I have seen this on windows when the disc is formatted strangely, but I haven't seen this on ubuntu as of yet...
[01:52] <hylian> Tasmania, you seem to fix your problems better than we can. :)
[01:52] <urbancommando> lol
[01:52] <x_chr> hylian: I'm going through my old CDs. This is a random DVD-R. It could have degraded...
[01:52] <Tasmania> I just rush into things at times.
[01:52] <Tasmania> Sorry if I'm annoying you.
[01:53] <hylian> x_chr, it also could be timing out because of scratches or a damaged device. I don't do much with cd's anymore, maybe that's why I havent noticed this
[01:53] <hylian> Tasmania, not me. I am always glad to help.:)
[01:54] <x_chr> hylian: Yeah, that might be right, though it seems like it's *not* timing out when it should be.
[01:55] <scottj> a command like xdg-open or gnome-open that doesn't exit till the launched app exits? or a command to lookup the opener for a file but not actually launch it?
[01:55] <mr-squidley> x_chr: had this problem when music cd was left in the car... i just put it down to being warped from the heat .... but i could be wrong haha down with cd
[01:56] <x_chr> hylian: Damn. It's doing it again now... Yeah, good thing I don't use optical media too much any more.
[01:56] <hylian> x_chr, has it been all cd's, or just recorded dvd's?
[01:57] <Tasmania> hylian I can't DCC send exploit, sorry.
[01:58] <x_chr> hylian: Seems to be only recorded DVD-Rs.
[01:58] <x_chr> hylian: But decidedly not all
[01:58] <Tasmania> I can't view txt files.
[01:58] <hylian> x_chr, i think i understand what the other dude was talking about. you might get the tray open if you killed the process trying to open the dvd. i'm not certain what process that would be, but it would be easy to do with something like htop.
[01:59] <hylian> Tasmania, it was just a cute little picture i made with cowsay.
[01:59] <Tasmania> You're going to need to upload it somewhere so I can be able to see it.
[01:59] <hylian> Tasmania, maybe they aren't set with a default app? like gedit?
[01:59] <Tasmania> hmm.
[02:00] <x_chr> hylian: Aha.
[02:00] <Tasmania> Ubuntu does that?
[02:00] <hylian> Tasmania, ohh, never mind. no, the image i was trying to send you is a png.
[02:00] <hylian> Tasmania, yeah, you can open .txt with gedit.
[02:01] <hylian> Tasmania, yeah, if you right click a file, then choose properties, you can set a default app to open it.
[02:01] <Tasmania> Whatever file that can't be open with another program, it does not show it at all when you browse its parent folder?
[02:01] <hylian> x_chr, aha? is that a good aha!
[02:01] <allie83> i seem to have better luck with you friendly folks... :) facebook games are saying i need adobe flash 10 or greater, i have 11.2...how do i resolve this please?
[02:01] <z1lla> all i can do is install linux
[02:01] <x_chr> hylian: It's an 'ah, yeah, that might have done it,' Though still tempered by the fact that my drive just isn't reading some stuff.
[02:02] <z1lla> i'm not h4x0r
[02:02] <hylian> x_chr, hmm, you know the way I would handle this would be to first dump this dvd-r in a nother ubuntu machine to see if i can replicate the error. is that a possibility?
[02:03] <mister_m> can I tell gnome to remember what I have open when I log out?
[02:03] <hylian> allie83, hmm, what browser are you using?
[02:03] <x_chr> hylian: Worst case I can do that on my (mac) laptop and transfer, yeah.
[02:03] <allie83> why thank you ...firefox
[02:03] <hylian> mister_m, i think you can do that by saving the session. never tried it before though,.
[02:03] <Chamunks> what repository would contain sun-java6-jre
[02:04] <Chamunks> for some reason my default repos are not capable of giving me this package and im about to ragequit over it.
[02:04] <hylian> Chamunks, you need to activate the extras repo, give me a second...
[02:04] <Chamunks> hylian, thank you a load.
[02:04] <Chamunks> you have no idea I'm having to deal with a terrible vps host that a friend of mine used and they are just the worst people.
[02:04] <zykotick9> !java | Chamunks sun-java is no longer in repos
[02:05] <mister_m> hylian: how do I save a session
[02:05] <Chamunks> I am looking to run a minecraft server
[02:05] <Chamunks> and need the jre...
[02:05] <allie83> hylian: i have firefox
[02:05] <allie83> and you're very busy
[02:05] <Chamunks> would jdk do the same things jre does I would imagine not :S
[02:05] <hylian> mister_m, to be honest i don't know. I have never done it. i could google it, but i'm not familiar with the process.
[02:06] <hylian> Chamunks, it's pretty easy to get to if you have synaptic. i can't think of the old software sources program name...
[02:06] <Chamunks> I only have console
[02:06] <Chamunks> access
[02:07] <hylian> Chamunks, jdk is the java development kit. it's great if your gonna do some hacking. openjdk works beatiful unless your gonna use some special stuff like minecraft.
[02:07] <hylian> allie83, did you just update?
[02:07] <Chamunks> openjdk will not work correctly with minecraft servers.
[02:07] <itaylor57> Chamunks, jre is run time, jdk is to compile, and includes jre
[02:07] <hylian>  Chamunks yeah, that is what I was getting too.
[02:07] <Chamunks> itaylor57, thanks I will try jdk
[02:08] <hylian> itaylor57, thanks man!
[02:08] <allie83> hylian:yes..just finished install
[02:08] <Chamunks> itaylor57, has no installation candidate.
[02:08] <Chamunks> Fuuuuuuuu
[02:08] <k_sze> Can the command-line sftp client resume file transfers?
[02:08] <hylian> allie83, i would try and reboot real quick. the possibilities are 1) firefox has not actually shut down yet, or 2) the update will not fully take affect until restart.
[02:09] <itaylor57> !java | Chamunks shows how to get which ever java you want
[02:09] <allie83> hylian:thanks ..will do :)
[02:09] <myr> Chamunks, try the sun java instead of open
[02:09] <hylian> Chamunks, if your intention is to play minecraft, you will need sun's java plugin, not icedtea6 or openjdk.
[02:09] <myr> what he said ^^^^
[02:12] <Chamunks> I found a link thanks to ubbottu
[02:12] <jeremiah_> How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?
[02:12] <hylian> Chamunks, you should be able to get to the software sources section through either synaptic, or the ubuntu software center. you will have to activate a repository there.'
[02:12] <Chamunks> this should have theoretically fixed my issue http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[02:12] <zykotick9> hylian: sun-java is no longer in any ubuntu repository
[02:12] <Chamunks> it apparently provides a sun-java repo
[02:12] <Chamunks> http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[02:13] <hylian> zykotick9, wow. it was there in 11.04... thanks for the heads up!
[02:13] <zykotick9> hylian: it was in 11.10 for a while...
[02:13] <hylian> Chamunks, if you didn't see that post by zykotick9, i was wrong about the software sources way of doing this.
[02:14] <jeremiah_> How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?
[02:14] <Chamunks> the link that I posted was in the ubottu response and it works perfectly :)
[02:14] <Chamunks> java -version now echoes java version "1.6.0_31"
[02:14] <itaylor57> Chamunks, good for you
[02:15] <hylian> Chamunks, thanks for the info. yeah, that deb package solution of there's should work like a charm, or did you use te binary files?
[02:15] <Chamunks> thanks #ubuntu you always save my arse in a pinch.
[02:15] <Chamunks> I just added the repo
[02:15] <hylian> Chamunks, cool beans!
[02:15] <Chamunks> from duinsoft.nl
[02:15] <Chamunks> its more uptodate than the linux mint repos
[02:17] <myr> jeremiah_, try running it?
[02:18] <jeremiah_> myr, duh i meant hdd errors or other errors. i have installed it three times, three disks, three different websites that i got it from and all have died for me at one point or anther
[02:19] <hylian> jeremiah_, are you using cd, or usb key?
[02:19] <myr> jeremiah_,  did you check the md5sum of the download?
[02:19] <jeremiah_> hylian, when i installed it?cd.
[02:19] <jeremiah_> myr, no
[02:20] <dr_willis> useing usb. makes things easier i find.
[02:20] <hylian> jeremiah_, what are the specs on that computer? how new/old is it?
[02:20] <bobweaver> hello there does anyone know if there is a --force-yes or --yes -y like in sudo apt-get -y install cowsay   so that it does not ask for the Y and just installs But I am looking for something like that with aptitude . Any ideas
[02:21] <dr_willis> i have had optical drives go semi bad on me also. wouldent read some disks at the ends.
[02:21] <jeremiah_> hylian, duel core 2.2 ghz intel processors 4gb ram
[02:21] <hylian> jeremiah_, so resources are not an issue here...
[02:21] <jeremiah_> hylian, hd compaq 6910p
[02:22] <zykotick9> bobweaver: "man aptitude" then "/" "yes" should show -y --assume-yes
[02:22] <Laiam> any idea why the brightness adjuster is broken in KDE on ubuntu?
[02:22] <jeremiah_> hylian, nope.
[02:22] <bobweaver> thanks zykotick9  !
[02:23] <hylian> I am thinking this might be a cd read error. even if the cd is burnt perfectly, the reading during install can be a problem. I know windows has the same issue. Is there any way you could try this with a usb stick? that's what I use for installing ubuntu on my machines.
[02:23] <bobweaver> zykotick9,  I did not know that you could do that in man pages kinda like wth less very cool thansk !
[02:23] <zykotick9> bobweaver: glad to help
[02:24] <zykotick9> bobweaver: it's "like vi" really ;)
[02:24] <jonathanellis> I have installed chromium-browser 17.0.963.83 (Developer Build 127885 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10 and it crashes randomly, sometimes as soon as I go to almost any website. I had a similar problem with google chrome, recently and I was advised to use chromium instead. Any thoughts, please?
[02:25] <jeremiah_> hylian,  i think something is wrong because everything just crashed for me....
[02:25] <hylian> jeremiah_, the other option, and this would be just to test the cd read error theory, would be to install a very small version of linux suxh as slitaz. (don't do this if your gonna use this machine for dual boot with windows, ubuntu is designed for this, slitaz is not.)
[02:26] <jeremiah_> hylian, no duel booting, so i find it in software cener or what?
[02:26] <hylian> jeremiah_, you where running ubuntu or windows, and it had an error? where you running the os from the hard drive?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> jeremiah_: What type of freeze?
[02:27] <jeremiah_> hylian, only have ubuntu, and it is on my hdd
[02:27] <philip__> jonathanellis: there was a problem with the latest build of chromium that arrived yesterday. you can try to launch through terminal to see what's going on.
[02:28] <jeremiah_> jordan, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves
[02:28] <hylian> jeremiah_, did you see Jordan_U's question? how exactly did it freeze?
[02:28] <jeremiah_> hylian, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves
[02:28] <totesmuhgoats> what is the difference between vim.basic and vim.tiny?
[02:28] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: vim-tiny = vi
[02:29] <hylian> Jordan_U, any suggestions? I am thinking a possible hard drive malfunction...
[02:29] <totesmuhgoats> i guess vim.basic is what i want then
[02:29] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: if you like arrow keys, probably ;)
[02:29] <jeremiah_> hylian, forgot to mention, three different hdds
[02:30] <jeremiah_> hylian, all new.
[02:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, can you type control alt and f1? and then log in?
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: seems to use the jhjkl fine
[02:30] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: but i'm not really sure what vim.basic is... i always install "vim" as my first order of businesss on a new install
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> hjkl even
[02:30] <jeremiah_> hylian, what?
[02:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, WAIT,
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: i have vim installed, but when i run crontab -e it isn't one of the options
[02:31] <totesmuhgoats> also, its just crontab so. eh
[02:31] <totesmuhgoats> hmm, looks like i might have uninstalled vim when i removed kde
[02:32] <hylian> jeremiah_, control alt f1 will get you "tty mode 1" but to get back to regular screen, you need to type control alt f7. remember that. now, if you can go to control alt f1, then log in, and then go back to control alt f7, and tell me if it logged you in, and how fast..
[02:32] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok.
[02:32] <myhero> i m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?
[02:33] <myhero> any1 help
[02:33] <myhero> i m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?
[02:33] <dr_willis> myhero:  you are doing a normal install via booting the cd?
[02:33] <Laiam> myhero: did you leave free space after windows 7 on your drive? if you did then when installing you'll probably have to manually create your partitions
[02:33] <myhero> yes but with usb stick
[02:34] <Laiam> myhero: what version of ubuntu the latest?
[02:34] <myhero> oneiric
[02:34] <zykotick9> Laiam: 11.10 is latest release, 12.04 is in beta
[02:34] <myhero> i installed win 7 in c: drive now i want to install ubuntu into d: drive
[02:34] <scottj> is there a user dir to put foo.desktop files so that I can associate commands of my choosing w/ mimetypes in xdg-open?
[02:34] <Laiam> myhero: ok you'll have to select the advanced or custom option for partitionin
[02:35] <dr_willis> myhero:  you have an empty d drive?
[02:35] <Laiam> zykotick9: some people don't like unity so much that they still install the older versions like 9.10
[02:35] <myhero> no it has old win 7 os....i want to install it before installing ubuntu to it
[02:35] <Laiam> myhero: did you create that partion using win 7?
[02:35] <hylian> Laiam, or they are like me and install gnome or xfce4.
[02:36] <zykotick9> Laiam: sorry, thought YOU where asking the question, not asking someone that question :|  my bad
[02:36] <myhero> it was old partiton
[02:36] <Laiam> hylian: true
[02:36] <Jordan_U> myhero: Follow the directions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[02:36] <itaylor57> i have grown fond of xfce4
[02:36] <myhero> i choose to install ubuntu alongside windows then deleted the d: drive partition
[02:37] <Laiam> myhero: you'll have to manually create the root partion and swap partition (anyone standard swap partion size usually i just do a gig but i think its supposed to be about the same as the amount of memory you have)
[02:37] <hylian> itaylor57, gnome 3 in classic mode is now decent again. that's what i use. xfce4 is awesome though.
[02:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, it shut my lappy of, turned it back on booted for 2-3 seconds and then shut off. repeated 20 times.
[02:38] <myhero> i didnt get what u r trying 2 say
[02:38] <Laiam> I've grown fonder of kde
[02:38] <zykotick9> Laiam: if you want to use hibernate, then swap needs to be slightly larger then physical RAM
[02:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, whwn you went into tty mode? how very strange...
[02:38] <bazhang> myhero, use real words please
[02:38] <Laiam> that explains it... I never hibernate...
[02:38] <myhero> yea
[02:38] <Laiam> myhero what screen of the install are you on right now?
[02:39] <myhero> installation type
[02:40] <Jordan_U> myhero: Why did you delete any partition?
[02:40] <myhero> installation type then install ubuntu alongside windows 7 then choose partition
[02:40] <philip__> guys what is a good irc client to be used especially here? chatzilla doesn't offer that much.
[02:40] <myhero> i wanted to install ubuntu to that partition thasty
[02:41] <hylian> jeremiah_, i don't know what to say. I can be honest in telling you that I have never heard of this before. I am not certain what to try next. it's definetely either hardweare or software based... i would try slitaz just to see if you have some issue with linux in general. atleast you would have a direction you could go. slitaz.org. it's a 30 mb iso. because it's small, it;s fast. and then if it works for you, then you atleast know it's not hardware, and can
[02:41] <hylian>  go from there.
[02:41] <zykotick9> philip__: xchat is popular GUI client, irssi popular CLI client
[02:41] <Jordan_U> myhero: What used to be on that partition? Ubuntu's installer will create space for its partitions automatically, doing so before hand just makes things more complicated.
[02:41] <myhero> why deleteing partition is wrong ?
[02:42] <philip__> zykotick9: thanks. i'll go fo xchat.
[02:42] <jeremiah_> hylian, it did it again. i need help!!
[02:42] <Laiam> myhero: he's just trying to figure out why it was necessary for you
[02:42] <ev316> The sd card in my phone is full. I have it plugged in and can browse the files. I want to list to folders by actuall size so I can start at the top for clearing stuff out and making room on the card. When I sort by size in the browser it sorts folders by how many folders are in the folder. kinda pointless IMHO. windows has windirstat, which would work if i could find a linux alternative.  Thanks fo the help
[02:42] <myhero> see i had xp n win7 dual boot then today i installed win7 and in the other partition i want to install ubuntu so i deleted the old win7 d: drive partition
[02:43] <hylian> jeremiah_, download slitaz from slitaz.org. install that, and see if it crashes. that will answer if it's hardware or software
[02:43] <Laiam> Jordan_U: i'm assuming that myhero deleted a partition that he made while in windows 7
[02:43] <jeremiah_> hylian, it kept bringing up the do i want to shutdown page thing and then shut off and did it all over like the first time
[02:43] <Laiam> ok so you currently have 1 windows partition and some empty space
[02:43] <hylian> jeremiah_, sounds like maybe a stuck power button
[02:43] <myhero> coz when i came to choose partition then i wanted to ormat it but the formnat box tick option was not ticking so i deleted it
[02:43] <dmogle> ev316: Ubuntu has the graphical Disk Storage Analyzer or du on the command line.
[02:44] <jamping> where chat on russian piople?
[02:44] <dmogle> ev316: Er, Disk Usage Analyzer
[02:44] <ev316> dmogle: cool, i will look into du. never thought of 'disk storage analyzer' syntax
[02:44] <Laiam> myhero: is this the screen you are on? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1312973605.png
[02:44] <jeremiah_> hylian, which do i download,slitaz 3.0 or slitaz 4.0 rc3?
[02:44] <myhero> i hve freshly installed win 7 partition n a 2nd deleted partition n 2more after that
[02:44] <hylian> anyone, jeremiah_ has some very strange errors, and i have to admit, this is a new one for me. please help him if you can
[02:44] <myhero> all in all 4 partitions
[02:44] <hylian> jeremiah_, 3 is stable.so i would choose that
[02:45] <myhero> all plz brb hve 2 use bathroom...srry 4 shorthand
[02:49] <hylian> jeremiah_, any issues? it's a very unique operating system. i use it simply for problem solving, cause it's small.
[02:49] <jeremiah_> hylian, just fin downloading, hang on.
[02:49] <funnyhaha> i just got 11.10 and i want to know can i remove that bar on the left side of my screen
[02:49] <jeremiah_> hylian, i have it downloaded, now what?
[02:50] <funnyhaha> i think its not that good
[02:50] <hylian> jeremiah_, you will either have to burn it to cd or use a program like untetbootin to put it on a usb stick.
[02:50] <funnyhaha> there is a menu bar on the left side of the screen
[02:50] <ev316> dmogle: du is pretty nice, but after reading the man page i am not seeing a way to sort based on a variable. This has to be an option.
[02:51] <jeremiah_> hylian, then wait while i burn it....
[02:51] <myhero> @liam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition
[02:51] <dmogle> ev316: not sure if du sorts on its own, I just pipe it to sort.  I usualy do du --max-depth=1|sort -n
[02:52] <myhero> laiam......
[02:52] <myhero> @laiam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition
[02:52] <myhero> laiam
[02:53] <Laiam> myhero: ok you'll have to create the swap partion and root partition manually then
[02:53] <myhero> how ? n what about the partition i just deleted ?
[02:53] <myhero> any problems for that deleted partition
[02:53] <ev316> dmogle: thanks, i often forget about the |
[02:54] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok burned. now what?
[02:54] <myhero> laiam
[02:54] <Laiam> myhero: that partition is gone if you had data on it there are tools that can recover it but i'm assuming you meant to overwrite it with ubuntu anyway so
[02:55] <myhero> yes
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: please hold i'm pulling up the interface for custom partitioning from install
[02:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, for now, we just want to boot to slitaz, and let it run. if it runs without a hiccup, then if your feeling brave, install it to the hard drive, and then if it still runs, we know it is ubuntu software based, like a driver...
[02:55] <myhero> ok
[02:55] <myhero> i can also go back n choose option to do something else....
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: your on a screen similar to this yes?
[02:55] <jeremiah_> hylian, so reboot with disk?
[02:55] <hylian> yes
[02:55] <myhero> which ?
[02:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, yes
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall2-600x413.png
[02:56] <jeremiah_> hylian, do i have to install it and if i do, what happens?
[02:56] <Laiam> myhero: how much memory does your system have?
[02:57] <myhero> laiam yes similar to that
[02:57] <Laiam> myhero: select the freespace from the list and click the add button
[02:57] <myhero> currently 3gb ram n 320gb hdd
[02:57] <hylian> jeremiah_, you don't have to, but if you do, and it doesn't have acrash fits like ubuntu has been having, then we would atleast begin from a position of kn nowledge, that being that our culprit is somewhere in ubuntu itself. that's all this test gives us, it's a lot of work,but gives you a direction to work from.
[02:58] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok. see you after i try it out/\.
[02:58] <Laiam> myhero: after clicking the add button something like this should pop uphttp://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall4-600x296.png
[02:58] <hylian> jeremiah_, also, if you do install it, you will want ot install xchat, freenode here, and join #ubuntu
[02:59] <darbe> hi
[02:59] <darbe> http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/dw.com.com/redir/cnet_2012-04-02-184413.2500.mp4?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcnet.co%2FHh8W77%3FADPARAMS%3DBRAND%3D47%7CSITE%3D53%7CSP%3D181%7CPOS%3D100%7CNCAT%3D13482%3A31633%3A&ontId=14106&siteId=145&edId=3&asid=50122567&pid=&astId=31&ltype=dl_dlnow
[02:59] <FloodBot1> darbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <darbe> E: debsums: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[02:59] <myhero> http://pzy.be/v/2/Screenshot+at+2012-04-05+082631.png
[02:59] <darbe> how can I fix it?
[02:59] <philip__> what happened with jeremiah? just got back.
[02:59] <jeremiah_> hylian, problem, it didn't boot.
[03:00] <jeremiah_> the disk
[03:00] <myhero> yes
[03:00] <hylian> philip__, he might be a while. i had him burn slitaz. i want to see if we can pinpoint this to hardware or software, so he is trying a different distro for a bit. then he will get back to us. then hopefully we will atleast have a direction to go with him.
[03:00] <hylian> jeremiah_, hmm. what did it do? this could be our problem right here.
[03:01] <myhero> laiam...yes now what after add screen
[03:01] <philip__> ok hylian thanks.
[03:01] <Laiam> myhero: you will want to make your main root partition slightly smaller than the available size so that you can include a swap partition for hibernation. take the amount of available space and minus about 3.5 gigs from it (3584 MB) it should be EXT4 for the type and put a slash for the mount point " / " no quotes
[03:01] <jeremiah_> hylian, it is set to boot off of disk first, but completly ignored it.
[03:01] <myhero> k
[03:02] <Agent_bob> what's the point of hibernate ?    i've never used it.
[03:02] <Laiam> after you've created that partition the additional space can be used for the swap
[03:02] <myhero> but laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed
[03:02] <Laiam> agent_bob: hibernate is mostly useful for mobile platforms
[03:02] <hylian> jeremiah_, well. then either the cd didn't burn right, or we have a problem with that cd burner, or it was a bad cd... i think i see a common theme now. I could be off base here, this is just a guess. but i think your problem might be in the cd's or drive itself.
[03:03] <Laiam> myhero: do you have both root partion and swap partion now?
[03:03] <myhero> but laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed
[03:03] <jeremiah_> hylian, new cdburner new cd and it burned correctly. i can see the disk, but it won't boot.
[03:03] <Laiam> myhero: once they're created you should be able to continue with the install alongside win7
[03:04] <philip__> and how does the drive affects pwoering that much?
[03:04] <hylian> philip__, what do you think about jeremiah_ 's issue? any insight would be greatfully accepted.
[03:04] <Zal> jeremiah_, is your BIOS set up properly to boot from cd?
[03:04] <jeremiah_> Zal, yes.
[03:05] <celthunder> hylian: whats the issue sorry
[03:05] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Sometimes I have to remove a hard drive from the boot list to convince the BIOS to boot from a disk.
[03:05] <jeremiah_> i will urn again and try again
[03:05] <Zal> jeremiah_, bad burn then, is the only thing I can think of
[03:05] <jeremiah_> iwill burn again
[03:06] <celthunder> jeremiah_: are your jumpers set to master in the cd drive..also use f12 or whatever
[03:06] <Laiam> Agent_bob: hibernation is mostly useful for saving the state of the computer when no power is available to allow for easy resumption of work once power is returned. this is mostly useful on mobile platforms. but can be useful on desktops as well depending on the person.
[03:06] <hylian> celthunder, the issue, to be honest, is we don't know what the issue is. jeremiah_ 's version of ubuntu is having all sorts of very unique issues, and the machine refuses to boot from a cd.
[03:06] <jeremiah_> celthunder, what????
[03:06] <celthunder> hylian: saw the last part...
[03:06] <dmogle> wow, haven't had to mess with drive jumpers in ages...
[03:06] <philip__> does he have something installed at this point?
[03:07] <celthunder> jeremiah_: for the boot from cd bit.
[03:07] <Laiam> yeah... sata kinda just kills the jumper issue
[03:07] <jeremiah_> celthunder, i don't know.
[03:07] <celthunder> dmogle: they still matter if its ide..
[03:08] <celthunder> sorry joined late didnt see that he was on sata
[03:08] <tottiq> hey, anyone knows if there is a picasa version for linux? i cannot seem to find one on google's servers
[03:08] <Agent_bob> laiam   ok       i guess if power failed or if one needed to relocate and resume   ....   makes sense
[03:08] <hylian> philip__, yes, ubuntu, i think 11.10. it has been having some very strange errors/
[03:08] <jeremiah_> if physical jumpers, no. it is a laptop
[03:08] <philip__> jeremiah do you have any version installed or just trying to boot from cd?
[03:08] <myhero> laiam i created that root partition now how to create swap partition...?
[03:08] <celthunder> hylian: ok can you pastebin the convo a bit back with the other issues
[03:09] <celthunder> myhero: mkswap
[03:09] <jeremiah_> hylian, i think it worked this time. on burning.
[03:09] <jeremiah_> i will try again!
[03:09] <Laiam> myhero: did you change the size of the root so you have additional free space at the end before creating it? if so then select that free space and click the add button again change the type to swap and click go
[03:09] <myhero> yes
[03:10] <Laiam> celthunder: he's using the gui install
[03:10] <myhero> what mount point ?
[03:10] <Laiam> myhero: it won't need one
[03:10] <precise-php> hi, trying to build precise php5 package on lucid. this script works on 32bit - http://pastebin.com/hxvbu5NG
[03:10] <myhero> k
[03:10] <precise-php> but fails on 64bit
[03:10] <Agent_bob> myhero   "/"
[03:10] <Laiam> myhero: once you change the type to swap it will disable that field
[03:11] <sckauter> finally!
[03:11] <hacktheplanet996> hai
[03:11] <precise-php> because lucid's dpkg-architecture doesn't know about DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH
[03:11] <sckauter> fixed my problem with resolution lol
[03:11] <myhero> what about other options primary or logocal n begining or end ?
[03:11] <myhero> agent is saying "/"....
[03:11] <hylian> philip__, celthunder the machine turned on and off in rapid succesession a few times. what I knnow: ubuntu is installed. it is acting up. it keeps prompting him if he really wants to shut down now. i thought maybe it was a stuck power button. what he is doing right now is using a very slim and limmited distro called slitaz, just to see if the problems persist. he has a new cd burner. that's about all i know. also the ubuntu install is very fresh.
[03:12] <Laiam> myhero: logical and leave the other at whatever its set at also he probably thought you where asking for the root mountpoint which we just finished creating
[03:12] <sckauter> next step "vpn config" :)
[03:12] <precise-php> wondering what is the best way to go here? can i fake the value of DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH ? or should i start with the version of debian/rules from lucid php5 package?
[03:12] <Agent_bob> myhero    "/"  is always the "mountpoint" of the "root" partition.    i thought that was the one you were asking about.
[03:12] <myhero> ok...what does this "/" signiies ?
[03:12] <celthunder> hylian: does it prompt when plgged in
[03:13] <myhero> the directory
[03:13] <celthunder> hylian: could be a battery issue
[03:13] <myhero> root directory ?
[03:13] <jeremiah_> hylian, didn't work.
[03:13] <Agent_bob> yes
[03:13] <myhero> kk
[03:13] <hylian> celthunder, i don't know. we will have to find out when he comes back,.
[03:13] <hylian> jeremiah_, well, it was worth a shot.
[03:13] <celthunder> jeremiah_: is it plugged in when prmpting for shutdown
[03:13] <jeremiah_> hyl iguess
[03:13] <Laiam> myhero: / is the top its the main level..
[03:13] <myhero> why all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?
[03:14] <myhero> ok
[03:14] <Agent_bob> laiam   it's the "root"  of the filesystem
[03:14] <jeremiah_> celthunder, yes. the batteries died a long time ago and am not paying 70$
[03:14] <myhero> does making swap partition is necessary or can i avoid it ?
[03:14] <Laiam> Agent_bob & myhero: ergo why we call it the root directory
[03:14] <celthunder> jeremiah_: turn off and disable any acpi and whatever
[03:15] <hylian> jeremiah_, do you have a usb stick?
[03:15] <myhero> i dont know...
[03:15] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?????
[03:15] <myhero> m a noob
[03:15] <Laiam> myhero: in windows the  C: drive is the /
[03:15] <jeremiah_> hylian, yes
[03:15] <myhero> yes
[03:15] <celthunder> hylian: jeremiah_ that will hopefully stop the shutdown prompts
[03:15] <myhero> means m a noob for ubuntu
[03:15] <Agent_bob> laiam  doesn't have to be.  but in linux / has to be the root
[03:15] <hacktheplanet996> im 12 what is this
[03:15] <jeremiah_> celthunder, how is that done?!
[03:15] <Laiam> myhero: if you want to use hibernation yes its necessary also the swap partition can in a pinch be used by the computer as additional memory for applications that aren't being used but are open
[03:15] <hylian> jeremiah_, celthunder means in your bios.
[03:16] <celthunder> Agent_bob: no it doesnt
[03:16] <jeremiah_> hylian, so do what in the bios?
[03:16] <myhero> but is it necessary or can i orget about it ?
[03:16] <celthunder> hylian: i meant in kernel/gui/daemons but yeah that too
[03:16] <Agent_bob> celthunder    chroot'd it's still the root   so to speek   but the rest is symantic.   so i'll drop it.
[03:17] <hylian> jeremiah_, options for controlling the acpi, which is the power control unit. celthunder is thinking this is a problem based off of a misread of your now defunct battery.
[03:17] <Laiam> Agent_bob: true but windows convention generally puts c: as its root although they also split each drive off though so that generally speaking each drive has its own root level
[03:17] <Laiam> myhero: its necessary.
[03:17] <jeremiah_> hylian, don't think i have an option in the bios like that....'
[03:17] <Agent_bob> laiam   i
[03:17] <hylian> celthunder, sorry man. i think i am getting more in the way than helping. wish i could jump through xchat and help him mono e mono.
[03:18] <hylian> jeremiah_, you may not.
[03:18] <celthunder> hylian: also if it is a dell there are a lot of known issues with power and there batteries
[03:18] <jeremiah_> celthunder, it is hp
[03:19] <celthunder> hylian: lol i feel like i am not either so meh try single user mode for a bit with no daemons etc
[03:19] <Laiam> for future reference: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:19] <celthunder> or none more than the really needed
[03:19] <celthunder> hylian: if it still halts/ powers down its either hw or his kernel at least
[03:19] <philip__> can't we chat the three of us with him for a while?
[03:20] <celthunder> philip__: ?
[03:20] <jeremiah_> celthunder, it stopped shutting down at the moment
[03:20] <Laiam> Agent_bob: did that last message have more to it?
[03:21] <celthunder> jeremiah_: ok in a different gui distro kernel etc what didi you change
[03:21] <Agent_bob> laiam   nay       just a concurance
[03:21] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?
[03:22] <hylian> celthunder, i had him go into tty1 mode (control alt f1) and thats when it had a fit. at the time, i simply wanted to see why it was so locked up. never got the chance, because it forced him to shut down. just fyi.
[03:22] <Laiam> Agent_bob: I would add that windows supports mounting drives as directories within existing drives so that in a small way you could end up with C:\ being the root filesystem like linux and every other drive mounting under a folder in C:\
[03:22] <myhero> laiam n agent....m going for install....is there anything more to be done ?
[03:22] <celthunder> hylian: ok did he still have a gui running stuff on tty7 or whatever
[03:22] <Laiam> myhero: afaik that should be all your win7 partition still exists and shouldn't be touched so it should be all good
[03:23] <celthunder> jeremiah_: ? what
[03:23] <myhero> ok
[03:23] <hylian> celthunder, a mouse poiter, but no control.
[03:23] <myhero> thnx
[03:23] <jeremiah_> celthunder, didn't understand what you meant
[03:23] <celthunder> hylian: so...xterm ?
[03:23] <myhero> 1 more ques. - why all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?
[03:23] <celthunder> xterm shouldnt have mattered
[03:24] <myhero> jello u there ?
[03:24] <hylian> celthunder, and we never got to the other distro, it won't boot the cd. he made 2 of them, still won't recognize them.
[03:24] <celthunder> myhero: because we dont want to
[03:24] <ratcheer> celthunder: +1
[03:24] <myhero> but y not...it'll save time in typing reading n less congstion in window....
[03:24] <myhero> anything specific ?
[03:24] <hylian> jeremiah_, what did you use to burn the iso? did you just burn the iso file to disc, or sis you have it burn the iso into a boot option through something like brasero?
[03:25] <celthunder> myhero: not all of us type 1 word per minute and can read fine
[03:25] <Agent_bob> myhero   because in short  THE various forms of short hand have to be explained so often that it doesn't make it any shorter
[03:25] <jeremiah_> hylian, used brasero
[03:25] <myhero> yea thats rght but simple n common 1es can b used...
[03:25] <Fallout301> celthunder & Agent_bob perfect
[03:26] <celthunder> hylian: he has a usb why is he using a cd dd the iso over and be done with it
[03:26] <dmogle> jeremiah_: did you actually get into the a boot menu and choose the disk drive, or did you just let it boot on its own?
[03:26] <philip__> myhero: do you really want to partition your system with short messages...?
[03:26] <Agent_bob> myhero also,  it looks kind of juvinal, to say the least.
[03:26] <hylian> jeremiah_, ok, and when you put the cd into the tray, do you still see just the iso, or is it a bunch of folders and files?
[03:26] <myhero> haha....no just asked...
[03:26] <jeremiah_> hylian, bunch of folders and files
[03:26] <Laiam> myhero: I can't speak for the rest of them but for me the chat abbreviations make it more difficult for some older people I know to understand what i'm trying to communicate, also chat abbreviations leave the impression of the user being to lazy to type out the full word. additionally since this isn't twitter there is not a character limit. (much_
[03:26] <philip__> myhero: :P
[03:27] <Fallout301> Bingo Laiam
[03:27] <hylian> celthunder, good question. for some reason he burnt the iso to  cd. i assumed he didn't have a usb till later.
[03:27] <nathwill> Laiam: not to be pedantic (but because it's funny); "too lazy"
[03:27] <Fallout301> I would listen to advice from someone who actually takes the time to type stuff out than do shortened stuff
[03:27] <hylian> jeremiah_, thanks. that means you burnt it right.
[03:27] <Fallout301> thats just me personally tho
[03:28] <jeremiah_> hylian, figured
[03:28] <myhero> haha.....n laiam i agree but it sometimes it increases the chat n typing speed to much degree...
[03:28] <hylian> celthunder, yeah, i would use unetbootin myself, but, well, you kn ow.
[03:28] <hylian> jeremiah_, how big is your usb stick
[03:28] <Fallout301> I don't know, personally, especially with tech support, it's just better to type it all out
[03:29] <jeremiah_> hylian, 4gb
[03:29] <celthunder> hylian: ew lol anywa uhm ok so he has an install why are we not just fixing it he said he got the power issue fixed..what else was happening
[03:29] <Laiam> nathwill: heh... english is not my favorite language even  if i'm a native speaker there are too many words that share the similar spellings or pronunciations.
[03:29] <Agent_bob> myhero there are "windows" channels here if you really want 2 u-z sh
[03:29] <hylian> celthunder, it wasn't fixed till just now.
[03:29] <myhero> noo i want to get into linux
[03:29] <nathwill> laiam: agreed.
[03:29] <hylian> celthunder, i would rather he just use the installed dsitro as well.
[03:29] <myhero> had much o windows
[03:29] <myhero> *of
[03:30] <celthunder> hylian: ok...lol so whats the issue other than power
[03:30] <Fallout301> well myhero, learn to type stuff out then, its the only way that I have found for people to take you seriously when you ask for support
[03:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, ok, so how are things running now, what are our current issues with it? you said it stopped shutting down on you...
[03:30] <anonymous> rinsler
[03:31] <jeremiah_> hylian, thats about it. what i am worried about that itll freeze, then later on die and i loose everything.
[03:31] <hylian> celthunder, it does take a puke on him from time to time.
[03:31] <celthunder> hylian: as in kernel panic or as in?
[03:31] <Laiam> myhero: there are numerous typing skill building programs available for both windows and linux, that can help you increase your typing speed to make the time it takes to spell everything out less of an issue.
[03:32] <Agent_bob> memory leak ?       runaway process ?
[03:32] <celthunder> Laiam: dvorak
[03:32] <Laiam> also, i've found the bottleneck to my messages isn't generally my typing speed but the speed at which I word things in my head.
[03:32] <celthunder> Agent_bob: lol yeah
[03:32] <hylian> celthunder, i am assuming, but as i told you, i never got that far, on tty1 it had a massive fit, flashed "are you sure you want to shut down" about 20 times, and then died on him.
[03:32] <jeremiah_> hylian, need help for xchat at the moment. hacktheplanet996 is sending me som bad stuff. can i kick him or something??
[03:33] <celthunder> jeremiah_: /ignore
[03:33] <jeremiah_> cel
[03:33] <Laiam> celthunder: there have been no studies since dvorak himself that have conclusively proven an advantage for using dvorak over qwerty
[03:33] <myhero> yea fall...i agree typing gud is necessary...but anyways i was pointing in diff direction n this irc seems to be in diff.
[03:33] <jeremiah_> celthunder, with him sending me porn, it is hard to.
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> ty he's lieing . i called him a noob because he was rude to me
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> porn? your a liar, please provide a screenshot for any moderators
[03:33] <Agent_bob> jeremiah  no.  that's the command to stop it.    /ignore blah
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> i'm not going to get into an arugment, you're iggied
[03:34] <hylian> jeremiah_, type /ignore hacktheplanet996
[03:34] <jeremiah_> hacktheplanet996, and you sent me dinousrs giving blowjobs!
[03:34] <jeremiah_> hylian, thankyou.
[03:34] <celthunder> Laiam: i type about the same in each but it did take less time to learn dvorak
[03:35] <Laiam> myhero: your last message is one that requires further examination and/or rewording, (I don't get what your saying) as such I point it out as an example of how abbreviations can reduce the comprehension of your communication.
[03:35] <Fallout301> myhero I don't really get what you mean there either
[03:36] <myhero> yes u r rght
[03:36] <celthunder> i understood it
[03:36] <Fallout301> ah
[03:36] <myhero> c cell has gud understanding
[03:36] <hylian> jeremiah_, as for losing everything, we don't think there is anything wrong with your hard drive, so you shouldn't lose any documents. if this continues, you may have to eventually re-install ubuntu. this might be a heat issue. it might be a acpi battery thing, it might be a ubuntu bug that has a problem with your hardware. i wish i could be more specific than that for you.
[03:36] <Laiam> myhero: its more the second half of the message
[03:36] <Fallout301> Laiam: exactly
[03:37] <myhero> i'll not say my typing speed is very fast but its kind of ok so i hve no issues with typing speed ...
[03:37] <Fallout301> i understood the beginning, but that bit about the IRC being different, i didn't get
[03:37] <celthunder> myhero: i am indiffrent your shitty typing is not my problem
[03:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, it has died and i couldn't restore it lots of people helped and none could help restore it.
[03:37] <celthunder> Fallout301: he meant indifferent
[03:37] <myhero> means u all ppl here on this channel
[03:37] <Fallout301> ah ok thanks for clearing that up
[03:37] <myhero> hey cell mind ur language
[03:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, and i just installed ubuntu
[03:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, by restore it, you mean you couldn't run the cd again? i guess i am little hazy on how  you where restoring it... with backups?
[03:38] <celthunder> jeremiah_: what died
[03:38] <dmogle> jeremiah_: have you had another linux distro on this machine?
[03:38] <celthunder> like it didnt power on? boot ?
[03:38] <myhero> anyways thanks all ppl who supported....
[03:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, are you referring to restoring it with windows?
[03:38] <jeremiah_> hylian, no i couldn't take anything off because ubuntu stopped working.
[03:39] <jeremiah_> dmogle, yes, mint. it also died.
[03:39] <dmogle> jeremiah_: same problem or a different one?
[03:39] <celthunder> jeremiah_: WHAT died
[03:39] <myhero> jeremiah... i had similar issues....ubuntu live frm usb got frozen many times
[03:39] <celthunder> hylian: bad hdd from the it dies part....
[03:39] <jeremiah_> dmogle, same lappy. same prob.
[03:39] <myhero> i had to reboot n everything got lost
[03:39] <hylian> celthunder, he said linux mint gave himn the sam issues
[03:40] <Laiam> just waiting for april 26th
[03:40] <celthunder> hylian: but what dies his hdd? his partitions?
[03:40] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ubuntu died for me 3 times and lost lots of info don't want it again to happen
[03:40] <celthunder> hylian: power?
[03:40] <hylian> celthunder, i was actually thinking that too. philip__ thought it wasn't a hard drive issue.
[03:40] <Fallout301> now last time i used ubuntu was 10.10, but it was the.. I don't know I was told compositing when I talked about it elsewhere, but when I did a dual boot with it, youtube videos displayed on the black on my background, which was a bit irritating, so that was my only dealbreaker, could it just have been a bad driver?
[03:40] <philip__> myhero: weren't lost. you didn't seek with the right tool.
[03:40] <unkr> can anyone tell me the software which i can use to transfer file from WINDOW to ubuntu ??
[03:40] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, try this: open a terminal (ctl + alt + t) and cd to /proc/acpi
[03:40] <dmogle> jeremiah_: paste an ls from there into paste.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <hylian> celthunder, good question. it sounds like something gets corrupted, maybe his master boot sector?
[03:41] <celthunder> unkr: mount scp ftp samba unison...
[03:41] <celthunder> need me to keep going
[03:41] <celthunder> cp
[03:41] <Laiam> myhero: still installing?
[03:41] <myhero> see the thing was that my win7 got crashed so i took out hdd for recovery so i was left with no other choice other then live ubuntu
[03:41] <celthunder> hylian: well if he wont tell us what dies....
[03:41] <jeremiah_> dmogle, bash: /proc/acpi: Is a directory
[03:41] <jeremiah_> thats what i got.
[03:41] <unkr> celthunder, thnx:)
[03:42] <hylian> celthunder, i think he doesn't know./
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: type: cd /proc/acpi
[03:42] <celthunder> hylian: then describe it better
[03:42] <hylian> jeremiah_, so your hard drive died?
[03:42] <myhero> laiam srry to press install button
[03:42] <myhero> proceeding now
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then type: ls
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: paste the output of ls
[03:42] <jeremiah_> hylian, no ubuntu did.
[03:42] <philip__> jeremiah: tools like testdisk can recover data from a hard disk which barely even spins. don't worry about that. That said, you should always back up.
[03:43] <Laiam> myhero: you should consider investing in a backup drive for your windows files that way when it crashes you can just reinstall windows and pull your files from your backup
[03:43] <myhero> i mean srry i forgot to press install button
[03:43] <jeremiah_> dmogle, ac_adapter  battery  button  event  wakeup
[03:43] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, type: cd button.  Then paste ls again
[03:43] <Laiam> myhero: I figured it out, the "forgot" sort of implied itself since you had forgotten it aswell
[03:44] <Fallout301> Laiam, that is a very good point... I should see about a backup drive myself
[03:44] <myhero> i have a 1TB backup drive but that day i was cleaning my backup drive n suddenly win7 got crashed so i was let with nothing
[03:44] <myhero> *left
[03:44] <myhero> yeah
[03:44] <hylian> jeremiah_, so exactly what did ubuntu do when it died?
[03:44] <jeremiah_> dmogle, Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos
[03:44] <jeremiah_> hylian, it froze time to time, then never booted again
[03:45] <Laiam> both w7 and ubuntu have partition restore utilities w7 has a few free ones but their hard to find
[03:45] <myhero> i was saying for shorthand so much but i hve seen a major problem with it for getting words missed inbetween...
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Hm, looks like you ended up in home.  Type: cd /proc/acpi/button
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Then type: ls
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Then paste output
[03:45] <Fallout301> well myhero, you end up pulling key words for understanding when you use shorthand
[03:46] <Fallout301> I mean is it really that horrifying to type out your thought without shorthand?
[03:46] <jeremiah_> dmogle, lid
[03:46] <myhero> but laiam backup drive has a problem too...that it has to be connected everytime which will be like raid or nas...
[03:46] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, a couple more.  Type: cd lid
[03:46] <philip__> jeremiah: did you mess your partitions then?
[03:46] <myhero> n it will be wastage of power...
[03:46] <Laiam> yeah, theres a balance sometimes to the amount of words that are fully spelled compared to words that are abbreviated...
[03:46] <myhero> yea
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then ls again, you'll probably see LID0.  If so, type (case matters): cd LID0
[03:47] <jeremiah_> philip__, don't have any only one.
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then type: cat state
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: and paste the output
[03:47] <Fallout301> myhero, another thing you can do is plug in the drive, back the shit up, then store the drive in a nice safe place
[03:47] <jeremiah_> dmogle, never got any of those C1ED
[03:48] <dmogle> jeremiah_: sorry, C1ED?
[03:48] <jeremiah_> state:      open
[03:48] <Laiam> for my laptop i actually went through the trouble of making a windows backup through windows itself so that i don't have to reconfigure drivers everytime
[03:48] <jeremiah_> dmogle, yes
[03:48] <myhero> yea but that too seems not very comortable thing or a back unless n until the backup is small
[03:48] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, well, that indicates it's not a failure in the lid sensor anyways
[03:48] <Fallout301> Laiam, sounds like fun, I perosnally would rather just redo the drivers, since I don't have much to install really
[03:48] <jeremiah_> dmogle, good....
[03:48] <myhero> *for....spare me or *f this keyboard f key is bad
[03:48] <celthunder> dmogle: he said he got the power issue fixed
[03:49] <myhero> *for
[03:49] <dmogle> celthunder: oh, guess I missed that...
[03:49] <Laiam> restoring from a windows backup is slightly faster than reinstalling all together for me
[03:49] <hylian> dmogle, i am thinking his need to force restart continously has damaged the master boot record.
[03:49] <Fallout301> Laiam, it probably is, but what is the size of it when it's done backing up?
[03:49] <myhero> yea
[03:49] <dmogle> hylian: would that explain the same problem on multiple distros?
[03:49] <celthunder> jeremiah_: when did it fleeze did you max the swap/ram also vmstat watch your io speed watching top as well might help
[03:50] <jeremiah_> celthunder, please no jiberish.
[03:50] <hylian> dmogle, it would explain why they eventually become inaccessable. as to what causes the freeze, i haven't a clue.
[03:50] <Laiam> about the same size as the amount of disk space taken up after getting everything configured for the base system itself before installing additional applications
[03:50] <myhero> if the backup is small then usb will b gud but i the size is larger then it has to be hdd...
[03:50] <Laiam> so like 6 gb
[03:50] <Fallout301> ah
[03:51] <celthunder> veras for the disk check s m a r t and e2fsck
[03:51] <jeremiah_> hylian, thats what i am ofraid of. freezing
[03:51] <philip__> jeremiah: altering partitions can lead to short freezes. also you can try to boot in to recovery mode, even now.
[03:51] <Fallout301> hmm, I don't know.. personally I'd just rather backup the documents, Win7 installs pretty quick for me
[03:51] <myhero> if u r working everyday then u need a connected drive....raid or nas
[03:51] <Fallout301> myhero: theres also Ubuntu One or Dropbox
[03:52] <jeremiah_> philip__, i never messed with partitions
[03:52] <myhero> yes but its not a gud option for bandidth limit a/c's n slow speeds
[03:52] <hylian> jeremiah_, for now, if your computer does happen to no longer boot from the hard drive, you can still gain access to things like music, pictures, documents and the like through a live cd like ubuntu. i do it all the time for customers. this isn't much help, but it is available. as long as your hard drive holds out.
[03:52] <Laiam> fallout301: its basically a heavily compressed version of the information on the disk which means any small files on the disk that take up a full cluster even though they only need a few bytes or kilobytes get compressed aswell thereby taking up less space. also some laptops are really annoying to try and reinstall drivers for
[03:53] <myhero> i hve always been thinking or a rght backup....
[03:53] <Fallout301> ah yes, so true so very true
[03:53] <jeremiah_> hylian, tried that. it doesn't even sense there is something installed on the hdd.
[03:53] <Fallout301> ugh I had a real fun time finding drivers for my touch pad on my laptop about a month ago
[03:53] <hylian> jeremiah_, that is very strange...
[03:53] <Laiam> so i figure since i have all the drivers and everything already setup (minus my applications and virus protection since backing that up with it is pointless) its easy to make a one time backuo
[03:54] <myhero> i hve tried usb external hdd....raid n even dropbox but every option has some or the other disadvantages which after some time make me to change backup option
[03:54] <Fallout301> true Laiam
[03:54] <Fallout301> I think I'm gonna do that lol
[03:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, so when you booted to ubuntu from the cd, and then looked for an extra drive in nautilus, it showed no other drives?
[03:55] <Fallout301> well myhero, personally dropbox works like a dream for me
[03:55] <myhero> laiam but when u work then ur old ackups becomes obsolete
[03:55] <gdoteof> half the time I boot up my computer the settings in 'mouse settings' aren't respected
[03:55] <myhero> its gud for small files n greater bandwith connections
[03:55] <Fallout301> myhero: he is only backing up all his drivers and basically the fresh system
[03:55] <Laiam> not really since its just the base install of windows without anything but the updates
[03:55] <philip__> let me make myself clear. for me back up is everything that can have you up and running in a couple of hours after a major system damage. That kind of back is only cloning to me.
[03:55] <myhero> yea
[03:56] <gdoteof> i think it might be literally half the time.  like one boot it works, next boot it doesn't work, and on and on
[03:56] <jeremiah_> hylian, yep.
[03:56] <Laiam> and its easy enough to update the backup from windows if needed
[03:56] <myhero> yea
[03:56] <Fallout301> so true
[03:56] <hylian> jeremiah_, i may have to eat my words. there might be damage to that hard drive. that's strange.
[03:57] <myhero> if you are geting backup reinstalled in couple of hours then it doesnt has any advantage in terms of time coz u can install fresh in that much time
[03:57] <Laiam> also i'm like 87% sure that backups store validation information so it doesn't need to be revalidated each time i restore but its been a while since i restored from backup so i forget
[03:57] <myhero> backup is or files backup only
[03:57] <jeremiah_> hylian, it has happened to three new hdds!!
[03:57] <myhero> *for...spare me for *F
[03:57] <Fallout301> I'm kinda nervous about it, but i think I'm gonna try another dive into Linux with a dual boot >_< I'm mostly just scared because I don't wanna screw up windows
[03:57] <philip__> hylian: that happens also when a system (install) is damaged.
[03:57] <Laiam> also since i'm mostly mobile my files are always on my portable disk which gets backed up to my main computer each night when i get home
[03:58] <Fallout301> nice
[03:58] <myhero> yea gud
[03:58] <myhero> i did hdd backup the hdd crashed...
[03:58] <Fallout301> my longest linux period had to be... oh I'd say about... 5 months, when my laptop decided to give me the finger and lock the old hard drive
[03:59] <hylian> jeremiah_, it could be either the hard drive eide or sata cords, ot could be the power unit frying out the hard drive, it could be the ports on the motherboard causeing an issue. and i could be wrong. but this is sounding more and more like a hard drive issue. it doesn't neccessarily mean the hard drive itself is bad.
[03:59] <Laiam> fallout301 right now i'm not even bothering with dual boot since i have a surplus of drives it seems I just cary both windows and ubuntu with me at all times on separate drives and swap them out as needed
[03:59] <myhero> i did dropbox backup then my connection bills when high n next i orgot my p/w
[03:59] <myhero> next i did did usb it fell into water n other got stolen
[03:59] <jeremiah_> hylian, .
[03:59] <myhero> so there is nothing sure shot
[03:59] <philip__> does he have system specs on pastebin?
[03:59] <celthunder> jeremiah_: did it recognize the drive in /dev or in dmesg
[04:00] <hylian> jeremiah_, or i could be totally off base.
[04:00] <myhero> backups r meant for soemthing bad n i bad happens then nothing helps at the moment
[04:00] <celthunder> jeremiah_: did you mount the drive anywhere if you dont mount it of course it wont show up
[04:00] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?
[04:00] <jeremiah_> hylian, i hope you are.
[04:01] <tomgeorge> where can I find help on Inkscape extensions/
[04:01] <tomgeorge> ?
[04:01] <celthunder> jeremiah_: just ideas..and more info will help us help you
[04:01] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ? i don't undersatnd. did i miss the first part?
[04:01] <hylian> jeremiah_, me too. that's not a cheap repair, or even neccessarily repairable, given the age of the machine....
[04:01] <jeremiah_> celthunder, info of what?
[04:01] <Laiam> myhero: main backup is generally a big huge drive that stays at home, i plug it in once a month or every other month back up everything then unplug it and it sits on a shelf, secondary backup for small stuff is basically my portable drive which has my day to day files, between that my laptop and my main computer i have at least 3 copies floating around 4 if it gets to my main backup
[04:01] <hylian> jeremiah_, he is wondering what you tryed to use to mount the hard drive to get your data back... i.e. your music
[04:02] <jeremiah_> hylian, no.
[04:02] <myhero> but laiam u r forgetting something in these 3 copies....u r consuming too much space for too lil data
[04:02] <hylian> jeremiah_, so you didn't try to mount it? i might be really tired and not getting this...
[04:02] <celthunder> hylian: dmesg udisks mount and /dev help a lot....
[04:02] <celthunder> hylian: and yeah where did he mount it
[04:03] <Random832> is there a tool to tune subpixel font energy distributions?
[04:03] <Laiam> myhero: my fourth level backup is my web-server which serves for holding things temporarily between home and college in the event i forget something. i'm currently using about 20% storage capacity if that
[04:03] <myhero> like 50%-60% space utility obtained in raid
[04:03] <jeremiah_> hylian, same here. no i didn't try to mount it.
[04:03] <tomgeorge> Where can I find help for Inkscape extensions?
[04:04] <celthunder> hylian: berthen why would you expect your data to show op
[04:04] <Rask> Hello, channel.  Is there a place that one can find terminfo entries for obscure/old terminals such as the wyse-35 or the televideo 925? :)
[04:04] <hylian> myhero, backup on ubuntu, windows, or macos is never small in hd size. it backs up the whole, un compressed operating system, and your apps, and your documents...
[04:05] <Laiam> I haven't raid arrayed yet since i don't have the hardware for it but eventually i'm just going to setup my main computer to raid array in a way that if a drive fails i can just pull it out and replace it and have the system mirror data so that it just rewrites the information onto the new disk
[04:05] <myhero> yea i too have backups in 2 laptops n i desktop n one 1TB hdd...but then files dont updated in all the places in 1 go...some the files r newer n other places they r older
[04:05] <celthunder> hylian: *up if you didnt mount it dont expect it to be there
[04:05] <hylian> jeremiah_, i see. yeah, if you don't mount those hard drives while you are using the live cd, you will not have access to your data. it probably was still there. you can mount hard drives usually from nautilus or gparted, both found on a ubuntu love cd.
[04:05] <Laiam> rsync!
[04:06] <hylian> jeremiah_, live cd, not love. i am tired :)
[04:06] <funnyhaha> i need help can i download the build-essential linux-headers-generic and save them
[04:06] <Laiam> lol live cd loves you
[04:06] <jeremiah_> hylian, i will do that next time..
[04:06] <myhero> yea...thats gud coniguration for fails n backup
[04:07] <myhero> spare me for F
[04:07] <jeremiah_> hylian, me to.
[04:07] <myhero> mine too has stuck many times
[04:08] <funnyhaha> where can i download   "build-essential linux-headers-generic" so i can save them
[04:08] <celthunder> funnyhaha: from any repo
[04:08] <hylian> jeremiah_, well, atleast you can relax a little about that. as to what causes your freezes, i don't know. there is a cli program called htop i was going to have you run. when we tried to get to tty1 (control alt f1) to run htop, it had a fit. if you ever manage to get it to freeze again, using htop may get you some vaulable info as to what is causing the freeze. if it is the hd problem thing, this won't work though
[04:08] <funnyhaha> i dont understand
[04:09] <philip__> so you're in a desktopo enviroment. please open a terminal type sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the output.
[04:09] <celthunder> hylian: vmstat could show hdd issues
[04:09] <hylian> celthunder, yeah, that's the ticket
[04:09] <celthunder> hylian: also check smart like i said earlier
[04:09] <jeremiah_> hylian, how do i get htop?
[04:10] <celthunder> hylian: use top ..has everything htop has
[04:10] <Laiam> jermiah_ sudo apt-get install htop
[04:10] <Laiam> jermiah_ sudo apt-get install top
[04:10] <hylian> jeremiah_, you can download it using the ubuntu software center, or by sing synpatic, or by using the command sudo apt-get install htop in a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal
[04:11] <hylian>  celthunder whats the difference between htop and top?
[04:11] <prappl93> Is there any solution to Adobe audio being choppy? I'm trying to use Omegle and the chat is rather choppy. I tend to only go there while on my Windows partition, and I was hoping I wouldn't have to change over to that partition for that. Any suggestions/solutions?
[04:11] <hylian> celthunder, i like the search/find option ion htop.
[04:12] <jeremiah_> what kind of java is needed for minecraft?
[04:12] <myhero> i thing i hve noticed that if i get the live usb out n reinsert it in the same port or any diff then ubuntu stops working
[04:12] <myhero> it freezes
[04:13] <mr-squidley> jeremiah_, i think
[04:13] <ArchNemesis> jeremiah: should run on jre-1.6 but, i never tried int under *nix
[04:13] <mr-squidley> sun whoops
[04:13] <funnyhaha> its there a command i can use to download build-essential linux-headers-generic and not install save it somewhere
[04:13] <prappl93> I think the problem that jeremiah_ is having is that it is running, just having a weird white static effect on the textures.
[04:13] <hylian> jeremiah_, you need the java from sun. ubuntu comes with java, but while it works well for everyday uses, specialty software like minecraft doesn't work at all on it.
[04:14] <ArchNemesis> its not 'sun' anymore but yeah =P
[04:14] <hylian> jeremiah_, sorry i couldn't help you more. my brain is now a gelatinous ooze. i need sack time. i hope your problems are few and far between.
[04:15] <jeremiah_> hylian, thanks for the help!
[04:15] <jeremiah_> so how do i get java for minecraft?
[04:15] <philip__> funnyhaha, you need just the headers?
[04:15]  * hylian waves goodbye to his #ubuntu friends
[04:16] <funnyhaha> i see
[04:16] <bretzel> Hello, -- Ubuntu 12.04 (event Beta2) is Just WOW!
[04:16] <bretzel> event ** even ;-)
[04:17] <jeremiah_> nothing came out.
[04:17] <jeremiah_> srry
[04:17] <jeremiah_> going to bed.
[04:17] <funnyhaha> if i go to terminl and (sudo get-app build-essential linux-headers-generic -w and a name) will that work
[04:17] <philip__> funnyhaha: http://www.kernel.org/
[04:18] <funnyhaha> thanks
[04:18] <bretzel> But icons bar, apps minimized or not does not raise the vdesktop nor awake ( unhide) window
[04:18] <imyousuf> Hi
[04:18] <imyousuf> I want to achieve the following:
[04:18] <imyousuf> Forward SSH request to a particular port on the Ubuntu server acting as router to another server in the private network for a particular user only. That is, e.g., Router Server port 6122 will forward to Internal Server port 22; Internal Server allows ssh for User 1 and User 2; User 1 will be able to SSH through the router but User 2 will not.
[04:18] <imyousuf> My question is, is it possible using a Ubuntu box as a router? If so can someone please guide me to the how-to?
[04:18] <FloodBot1> imyousuf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <imyousuf> Hi
[04:18] <celthunder> imyousuf: yes its called iptables and ip route
[04:18] <philip__> funnyhaha: you're welcome.
[04:19] <imyousuf> celthunder: I am familiar with with both UFW and iptables
[04:19] <imyousuf> Just dont know how to achieve my scenario
[04:19] <Laiam> java... YUCK!!!
[04:19] <funnyhaha> o i dont know what im looking for
[04:20] <myhero> laiam...the installer is downloading updates i think....currently language packs.....is there any way to halt or pause this update downloading....coz i hve limited bandwidth n free night....
[04:20] <Laiam> click the arrow next to the thing
[04:20] <Laiam> then click the skip button
[04:20] <prappl93> exit
[04:21] <Laiam> myhero: the text that says downloading whatever
[04:21] <Laiam> myhero if you click on that or the > arrow next to it it should open up a little box with console information from there a skip button should be visible above it on the right side
[04:22] <myhero> yes
[04:22] <imyousuf> celthunder: How can I check for the user requesting the ssh access, i.e. username part of ssh uri?
[04:22] <Laiam> yeah why does the installer download and install like 57 language packs then remove them all (except the chosen one) when finished?
[04:22] <jonathanellis> I have chromium 18.0.1025.142~r129054-0ubuntu0.11.10.1 installed on ubuntu 11.10. It keeps randomly crashing after a few seconds or minutes, often when I try to open a webpage. I have completely removed it, deleted .config/chromium and reinstalled and I still have the problem. Can anyone help please?
[04:23] <myhero> ok so i m skipping it....i hope it doesn't skips all installation process
[04:23] <Laiam> myhero: it should only skip the step that was visible at the time you pressed the button
[04:23] <Fallout301> Laiam, that is a bit silly aint it? wasting the time to download them just to delete
[04:23] <myhero> ok
[04:24] <myhero> skipped it
[04:24] <philip__> jonathanellis: as i told you earlier please try to revert back to one of those to see if it works.
[04:24] <Fallout301> gah, the fact I can't find my other drive is annoying me
[04:24] <Laiam> fallout301: exactly
[04:25] <Laiam> myhero: are you going to try to live with unity or are you going to try another package?
[04:25] <myhero> the language packs gets installed n then deleteled automatically or we have to do it manually ?
[04:25] <Fallout301> Laiam, if you ask me it should ask you immediately "What language would you like to use?" and download JUST that pack
[04:25] <myhero> unity is which one ?
[04:25] <anonymous_> hay i can not boot in to ubuntu
[04:25] <Onixs> is there a github for a NAS script ?
[04:25] <myhero> i m installing oneiric...
[04:25] <Laiam> fallout301: lol it asks you your language at the beginning of the installer
[04:25] <jonathanellis> philip__: I was having the problem on version 17 as well. About an hour ago, update manager updated it to the current version and I still have the problem. Which version do you think I should revert to?
[04:25] <Fallout301> but it downloads all the packs
[04:25] <Laiam> myhero: the main default interface
[04:25] <anonymous_> fd;fsdG"Dgrg
[04:25] <anonymous_> r
[04:25] <anonymous_> fr
[04:25] <anonymous_> g
[04:25] <anonymous_> rgr
[04:25] <FloodBot1> anonymous_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <anonymous_> g
[04:25] <Fallout301> just to delete them
[04:26] <myhero> then unity...
[04:26] <myhero> if u can suggest any other better one then will go or it
[04:26] <studentz> How I can launch an app from cli with the GTK or QT windows on TOP? Thanks
[04:26] <gulzar>  how to find out the files being used by a process? eg: I have 3 conky runnng but in the configuration I have added onky 1 setup... so there is some other file being run .. how to find its location with the running processes?
[04:26] <Laiam> myhero: if you want something that might have a closer feel to windows you can try KDE or something else...
[04:26] <myhero> installation finished
[04:26] <myhero> ok
[04:26] <funnyhaha> is this what im looking for    3.4-rc1
[04:26] <Laiam> cool!
[04:27] <Laiam> !kde > myhero
[04:27] <myhero> but suggest keeping in mind that m a newbie to linux n ubuntu...
[04:27] <studentz> gulzar use top or atop from cli
[04:27] <myhero> k
[04:27] <Fallout301> i personally think Gnome 2, at least as implimented in LM 10, was pretty dang close to windows
[04:27] <celthunder> myhero: xmonad is my fav gui
[04:27] <celthunder> Fallout301: gnome 2 is eol
[04:27] <tomgeorge> why am I unable to post anything to the inkscape channel?
[04:28] <gulzar> studentz: I want the files being used... but I got it .. {ps aux | grep $pid}
[04:28] <dmogle> gulzar: lsof lists open files by process id
[04:28] <celthunder> are you registered
[04:28] <gulzar> dmogle: Ok.. but I got it with ps .. thank you
[04:28] <celthunder> tomgeorge: cegister with nickserv
[04:28] <Fallout301> celthunder, that might be true, but it is still my favorite Gnome, although I haven't played with Gnome 3 terribly much
[04:28] <myhero> k
[04:28] <Laiam> linux mint does a good job of keeping everything as simple as you want it to be
[04:29] <foolhaedy1> #wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame Laiam thunder1212 Shirakawasuna Fallout301 myhero celthunder #wolfgame
[04:29] <myhero> ok i'll try xmonad n kde...
[04:29] <Laiam> fallout301 gnome3 has a fallback mode which basically turns it into gnome2
[04:29] <celthunder> Fallout301: dont bother lol go to xmonad or awesome or openbox ... mate is the new gnome 2 fork if you wanted that though
[04:29] <foolhaedy1>  #wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame
[04:29] <bazhang> foolhaedy1, stop that
[04:30] <studentz> gulzar sorry I misunderstood your q? Do you want to know the pid of the subprocess?
[04:30] <myhero> but for kde will i hve to install kubuntu...or it will work in ubuntu
[04:30] <celthunder> Laiam: that will sooner or later be taken out
[04:30] <Fallout301> wasnt uh.. Cinnamin basically a continuation of Gnome 2?
[04:30] <celthunder> myhero: you can install all the guis you want...
[04:30] <Laiam> celthunder: sadpanda
[04:30] <myhero> ok
[04:30] <Fallout301> i know i didn't spell it right
[04:30] <celthunder> Fallout301: idk mate is the one linus was supporting i think...
[04:30] <Laiam> also linux mint is turning gnome3 into something more recognizable
[04:30] <thunder1212> am unable to configure my printer in ubuntu 10.04 the printer is detected and installed but does not print although it accepts the print command the icon appears on the panel and dissapears quickly
[04:30] <tomgeorge> celthunder, I have registered with nickserv...
[04:30] <celthunder> could be wrong obviously i dont use it
[04:31] <beginner> hi test msg
[04:31] <Laiam> yuck printers
[04:31] <thunder1212> the printer is hp inkadvantage k109g
[04:31] <celthunder> people still print?
[04:32] <Fallout301> yes celthunder, its amazing, we have printers still!
[04:32] <Fallout301> :O
[04:32] <codencrazy> I recently hooked up a new monitor to my ubuntu 12.04 box, it works fine on the desktop at 1680x1050, but when I hit ALT CTRL F1 for a console window, it goes straight to an Out Of Range, any ideas?
[04:32]  * celthunder meanders off to find those still inventing the wheel
[04:32] <myhero> thnx all for help....bye
[04:32] <Laiam> KDE stole my heart when it properly detected my battery and figured out the actual powerlevel without acting like it was the end of the world when my cable came unplugged unlike unity/gnome where the plug coming undone means instant shutdown
[04:32] <Fallout301> lol
[04:33] <celthunder> codencrazy: set your terminal reosolution valid
[04:33] <Fallout301> well i know Gnome 2 is EOL, but it didnt blow a gasket on me lol
[04:33] <myhero> haha...laiam....
[04:33] <myhero> accha whats the diff in KDE n ubuntu
[04:33] <celthunder> ??
[04:34] <studentz> thunder1212  from terminal lpr yourDocument  and  post the error
[04:34] <Laiam> kde is just a different way of displaying things
[04:34] <celthunder> kde is a full de
[04:34] <myhero> then whats the point o detecting the battery
[04:34] <myhero> of
[04:35] <celthunder> myhero: probably uses acpi differently...
[04:35] <celthunder> who knows ...
[04:35] <myhero> the batter gets detected by system n not ui
[04:35] <myhero> mayb..
[04:35] <Laiam> on a laptop battery life is important if you want to be able to cross the room without your computer dying while its unplugged
[04:35] <gtech_> I fucked up my .profile script in my home folder and now when I login ubuntu hangs before I can even get a terminal, is there anyway to change this?
 I can't use the alternate tty screens because my video drivers are fucked and the screen freezes when I try
 I can't mount the directory from a liveCD because the mounting passphrase in locked inside and I forgot it
 password ssh login is disabled, and I don't have the secret key
[04:35] <FloodBot1> gtech_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <myhero> battery
[04:36] <gtech_> I'm going to assume that sent, sorry for the paste spam
[04:36] <Laiam> gtech: login using tty1 basically terminal... you can do this via pressing alt+ctrl+F1
[04:36] <Laiam> before logging in from the main screen
[04:36] <myhero> bye all frnds...specially laiam...
[04:36] <gtech_> yeah, like I said, I just get fracturing because I need to fix my video drivers
[04:36] <celthunder> Laiam: he still needs the passphrase....
[04:36] <Laiam> lol
[04:37] <Laiam> gtech_: wow you really messed it up bigtime didn't you...
[04:37] <celthunder> gtech_: dont set a pass and forget it next time go rm yoursself and as for losing your key as well no good if its not mounted...
[04:37] <celthunder> mae up your mind what you did you contardicted yourself a bit there
[04:37] <gtech_> I have my login passphrase, but not the one which the drive is encrypted with, which I guess in is PT and encrypted by my login
[04:38] <Laiam> gtech_: can you use the guest login?
[04:38] <celthunder> gtech then you cant boot
[04:38] <Laiam> gtech_: have you enabled the root account?
[04:38] <gtech_> Laiam, maybe on the guest login I'll try
[04:38] <gtech_> no the root account is still disabled
[04:38] <celthunder> Laiam: i think he lied somewhere though im tired...
[04:38] <Laiam> ...
[04:38] <celthunder> his drive is incrypted but he can boot....
[04:39] <Fallout301> hmm
[04:39] <celthunder> not much of an encrypton and if he knos that he can use a livecd
[04:39] <Laiam> celthunder most likely its only the /home directory that is encrypted
[04:39] <gtech_> no my home directory is encrytped
[04:39] <gtech_> I should have been more specific, though I never said drive
[04:39] <Laiam> gtech_: anyway try the guest account then terminal su yourself
[04:39] <Laiam> and do everything from command line
[04:41] <Laiam> once you get it fixed you should probably put the passphrase for your encrypted partition somewhere where you can get at it at home...
[04:41] <Laiam> and i mean physical home not computer home
[04:41] <gtech_> yeah  I three computers that I had it on, three points of failure
[04:41] <gtech_> just recently I had one box go down, and this latest fuckup was my last line to my remote backup
[04:42] <gtech_> >.<
[04:42] <Laiam> crash and burn!
[04:42] <Fallout301> ouch
[04:43] <Laiam> yeah... i don't encrypt my home systems because i don't have anything on them worth taking my mobile system is encrypted because of the principle of it...
[04:43] <Laiam> hard drive firmware password ftw!
[04:43] <gtech_> it's Guest and no pw right?
[04:44] <Laiam> should be... which version of ubuntu you floatin on?
[04:44] <gtech_> latest
[04:44] <Laiam> yeah just click through the options for Guest and there is no password because its guest
[04:45] <gtech_> ugh yeah that's not working, how is ubuntu decrypting my drive without my entering in my passphrase everytime?
[04:46] <gtech_> if I have my login isn't there some way to retrieve it?
[04:46] <kota> hey all
[04:46] <Laiam> can you use terminal to switch user in a gnome-terminal to yourself
[04:47] <gtech_> Laiam, I can't login as Guest at all
[04:48] <Laiam> yuck
[04:48] <gtech_> I can't login at all
[04:48] <Laiam> its not on the login screen?
[04:48] <gtech_> there's an other option which allows you to throw in other logins
[04:48] <gtech_> I've used that
[04:49] <Laiam> shouldn't have needed to
[04:49] <Laiam> your on 11.10 right so under login box for your account there should be one that says guest
[04:49] <gtech_> maybe there's another user I can login as, what's the name of the users file?
[04:49] <gtech_> it isn't there
[04:51] <luismjk> hola?
[04:51] <Shdwdrgn> I have an issue with the keyboard lock indicator LEDs.  I have 5 machines running natty.  Some the num-lock led switches, others it does not.  The caps-lock indicator does not switch on any of the machines, from GUI or from CLI.
[04:51] <Fallout301> interesting issue, thats all i can say to that
[04:52] <Laiam> gtech_ really did you customize your login screen or disable the guest accoutn? cause it should have been there as "Guest session" right alongside the other
[04:52] <paulus68> gtech_: might this be an solution to your problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[04:52] <luismjk> español?
[04:52] <Shdwdrgn> these are all regular desktop machines with standard keyboards.  I can't seem to find anything on google either.
[04:53] <paulus68> !es |luismjk
[04:53] <luismjk> je je gracias :D
[04:54] <Laiam> gtech_: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z5/illo/nw/story_graphics/12jan/ubuntu/ubuntu-login.jpg
[04:54] <Laiam> or is the login screen non-standard because of the video driver issue?
[04:54] <gtech_> Laiam, found it, wow so I'm in the home stretch thanks
[04:54] <gtech_> that might be the case
[04:54] <gtech_> I didn't customize it
[04:55] <Laiam> gtech_: ok cool! now just need to see if you can use a gui terminal to login as yourself and edit the drive
[04:56] <Laiam> basically su username
[04:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: standard keyboards?  are they usb or the other type?  at what stage of boot or operation do you have this problem?
[04:57] <Laiam> shdwdrgn: have the keyboards been damaged in anyway possible?
[04:57] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, they are ps/2 keyboards.  One machine is at init5, the others are servers at init3.  I could reboot one and see where it seems to start happening...
[04:58] <Shdwdrgn> Laiam, the keyboards are fine.  The indicators were working under lucid, but stopped sometime around the upgrade through maverick/natty
[04:58] <Laiam> ahh ok ... i haven't had a chance to mess with that much since i'm mostly on my laptop
[04:58] <iCoffee> somebody here could help me ?
[04:58] <Laiam> iCoffee: you desired assistance?
[04:59] <iCoffee> one question only
[05:00] <iCoffee> my grub customizer don't open ( distr. ubuntu 11.10)
[05:00] <sacarlson> !ask | iCoffee
[05:00] <Xenon|2> Ok, really stupid question, but where can i go to applications?
[05:00] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I assume you got it from ppa?
[05:00] <Laiam> sacarlson: lol nice i'll have to remember that command
[05:00] <Laiam> Xenon|2 i'm assuming you are in unity
[05:01] <Xenon|2> Laiam: What do you mean?
[05:01] <iCoffee> sacarlson:
[05:01] <iCoffee> i get from terminal
[05:01] <Xenon|2> sorry i'm new to this :(
[05:01] <macos> hi
[05:01] <sacarlson> iCoffee: show us the line you used in terminal to run it,  or did you even install it yet?
[05:01] <Laiam> Xenon|2: unity is the default interface for ubuntu in 11.10 which i'm also going to assume your using
[05:01] <iCoffee> ok
[05:02] <iCoffee> one momeny
[05:02] <iCoffee> moment
[05:02] <Laiam> !unity > Xenon|2
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[05:03] <sacarlson> iCoffee: ok that must mean you installed it,  so what did you do to try to run it?
[05:03] <Laiam> Xenon|2: access to installed applications is available via the launcher
[05:04] <Shdwdrgn> OK capslock indicator works fine from grub, and when the kernal first loads.  It stops working sometime during the process of "Begin running sciripts init/Bottom"
[05:04] <iCoffee> i search in start panel
[05:04] <iCoffee> and open
[05:04] <Shdwdrgn> note that the capslock still functions, its just the keyboard indicator that doesn't change to show the status
[05:04] <sacarlson> iCoffee: then lets try in the terminal to see why it didn't open
[05:04] <iCoffee> but but when it finishes loading it closes
[05:05] <iCoffee> ok
[05:06] <Laiam> Shdwdrgn: keyboard drivers?
[05:06] <sacarlson> iCoffee: my guess is that your not a sudoer or your trying to run it without sudo rights
[05:06] <Shdwdrgn> Laiam, none that I installed.  Whatever ubuntu installs for a standard US keyboard.
[05:07] <sacarlson> iCoffee: so to run it in a terminal you could try sudo gksudo grub-customizer ;
[05:07] <iCoffee> ok
[05:08] <thunder1212> hp ink advantage k109g not able to print from ubuntu 10.04
[05:08] <Laiam> sacarlson: gksu is the command for sudo for gui
[05:08] <iCoffee> grub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail
[05:08] <Laiam> so... gksu grub-customizer
[05:08] <ponrajuganesh> is there any way to find the only the ip address of the system
[05:08] <iCoffee> sacarlson:
[05:08] <ponrajuganesh> A quick question what could be the possible grep option to get the ip address alone using ifconfig
[05:10] <ponrajuganesh> could anyone help I need the IP adress ignoring all the other details
[05:10] <thunder1212> unable to print from printer
[05:10] <sacarlson> iCoffee: what are we looking at?
[05:11] <thunder1212> ubuntu 10.04 lts
[05:11] <rkhshm> how do i setup a isns server on ubuntu 11.10?
[05:11] <rkhshm> needed some urgent info please
[05:11] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  no open the grub customizer
[05:11] <centHOGG> !isns
[05:11] <iCoffee> in the final show this message
[05:11] <iCoffee> grub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail
[05:11] <Shdwdrgn> ponrajuganesh, ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\  -f1
[05:12] <thunder1212> if u are using an older version of ubuntu and u purchase a new printer then does it mean that u will now have to change or upgrade ur distro?
[05:12] <centHOGG> how old?
[05:12] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: fconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:'
[05:13] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: ifconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:' sorry
[05:13] <ponrajuganesh> this works perfectly in ubuntu Shdwdrgn and paulus68 but unix doesnot support the same
[05:13] <ponrajuganesh> any idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn
[05:13] <sacarlson> iCoffee: what was used in your command when this is seen ?
[05:14] <iCoffee> the command gksudo grub-customizer
[05:14] <iCoffee> on terminal
[05:14] <Arovij> hi I want to add virtual interface to my machine. Should I be making changes to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:14] <Laiam> http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/linux-get-ip-address/
[05:15] <Shdwdrgn> ponrajuganesh, you're in a linux channel asking for unix help?  You haven't even mentioned what type of unix you're running.
[05:15] <ponrajuganesh> any idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn
[05:15] <ponrajuganesh> solaris 5.10
[05:15] <jamesw> hi.. i just did a live boot of ubuntu studio 12.04, and it did not work with my logitech mx5500 wireless keyboard/mouse combo.. do you know of a fix, or do you think it will work if i do the install anyway? it works fine currently on ubuntu standard 11.04
[05:15] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  pvt
[05:15] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: just checking hold on
[05:15] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I'm not sure what could cause that,  it might be a bug in the parser of grub-customizer,
[05:17] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I've used grub-customizer on two builds so far with no problems on 10.04 and 11.10
[05:17] <kingsizeba> Hello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.
[05:17] <gtech_> Laiam, thanks for all your help, unfortunately it looks like my passphrase isn't stored in the same way that file is describing so I'm going to see if I can revive an old box
[05:17] <gtech_> and get back into this one
[05:17] <gtech_> cheers, ttyl
[05:17] <ponrajuganesh> sure paulus68
[05:17] <ponrajuganesh> thanks paulus68
[05:17] <thunder1212> If someone is using and older version of ubuntu say 10.04 LTS and purchases a new printer does it mean that i have to upgrade or change the distro??
[05:18] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  have other program to do that ?
[05:18] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: ifconfig -a eth0 | awk '/inet/ {print $2}' would this do the trick for you
[05:18] <ponrajuganesh> well the thing is it is i got one with unix but the same not working in linux paulus68
[05:18] <centHOGG> i don't think so... v10 not too old
[05:18] <iCoffee> to do a better visual on grub ?
[05:18] <Laiam> gtech: hope you get it working thanks for the update on your progress if you do solve it feel free to share how
[05:18] <SamSD> Hello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.,  would like to optimize, please help ty
[05:18] <sacarlson> iCoffee: not a gui that I know of,  you will have to edit the grub files with a standard editor
[05:18] <Arovij> join ##ubuntu
[05:19] <ponrajuganesh> shoudl I have semi colon at the end or something paulus68
[05:19] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: yes
[05:19] <thunder1212> i have a new hp ink advantage k109g printer and i am not able to print from ubuntu 10.04 but i can easily print using 11.04
[05:20] <vindolin> is there a way to decrypt an encrypted home dir in place? I'm badly affected by the dreaded "Valid eCryptfs headers not found..." bug http://bit.ly/o10UG1 and I'm tired of waiting for a fix.. dmesg is so spammed with that error, its useless :(
[05:20] <thunder1212> so what to do??
[05:20] <ponrajuganesh> or else is there an option to find the uunder lying system is unix or linux>
[05:20] <Guest88186> l
[05:20] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: don't know just googling in order to find an answer that might be helpfull for you
[05:23] <ponrajuganesh> 'uname -s' helps paulus68
[05:27] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: uname -s under ubuntu returns linux
[05:27] <ponrajuganesh> ya paulus68 the same under unix returns someother
[05:28] <ponrajuganesh> so one could use the first command for the linux and the second grep for unix
[05:28] <lebro> Does ubuntu come with a cronjob clearing ~/.bash_history by default? I tried modifying my .bashrc to allow a profane history size, but for some reason my history keeps getting cleared.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> ponrajuganesh: For general UNIX programming and scripting try ##unix.
[05:29] <Ali1_apac> hi all
[05:29] <Ali1_apac> I am installing cacti which uses php
[05:30] <ZenGuy311> how can I install beautifulsoup4 on lucid?
[05:30] <Ali1_apac> i have installed it to /usr/share - but when I point my browser at localhost/cacti - its Not Found. How do I configure my system to look in the right place?
[05:30] <laihan> hi
[05:34] <Laiam> good night
[05:34] <Fallout301> night
[05:35] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: doesn't look like 4 is in any repos prior to precise, you'll have to get it yourself
[05:35] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  k
[05:36] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: if you have setup tools you should be able to easy_install beautifulsoup4
[05:36] <myhero> laiam u there ?
[05:36] <ubuntu64bit> i don't think i let my update finish installing after running update manager i manually shut down the computer and upon reboot my wifi wouldn't work so i clicked on partial update let the update try to finish without a connection rebooted then the wifi came back on is this possible?
[05:37] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  installing easytools now
[05:40] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  thanks it works
[05:41] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: good deal, happy to help!
[05:43] <ZenGuy311> Ali1_apac:   i hope this helps http://openmaniak.com/cacti_tutorial.php
[05:43] <myhero> hi all
[05:44] <c02z> f
[05:45] <myhero> dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu....now boot screen gives ubuntu boot loader screen with some seconds to default ubuntu loading....how to change it to win7 boot loader screen and revert it back to deault win7 loading ?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> myhero: Do you want to remove Ubuntu entirely?
[05:47] <mmercer> lo all
[05:47] <mmercer> anyone happen to know which image would be necessary to install on a tm5800 cpu ?
[05:47] <myhero> no...just change the boot loader screen to win7 and make win7 default
[05:47] <myhero> i want to keep ubuntu alongside
[05:47] <ZenGuy311> myhero:  try easybcd for windows
[05:48] <Jordan_U> myhero: I understand wanting Windows to be the default, but defaulting to the Windows boot screen will make it much harder to dual boot with Ubuntu, without any gain that I can see. Why do you want to do this?
[05:48] <idan_> how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu
[05:48] <myhero> ok
[05:49] <myhero> coz if i will not pay attention for that ew seconds then ubuntu will load by default n then i will have to shut it down n again boot windows
[05:49] <myhero> *few
[05:49] <laihan> hello everyone
[05:50] <idan_> how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu
[05:50] <EmoBoiix3> hi everyone
[05:50] <venkatmangudi> idan_, check power preferences...
[05:50] <idan_> i was checked theres only suspend there
[05:50] <idan_> i don't look for suspend
[05:50] <Jordan_U> myhero: OK, so you just want the grub menu to default to booting Windows. That's easy, and does not require easybcd.
[05:50] <idan_> im look for just black screen
[05:50] <Jordan_U> myhero: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[05:51] <myhero> ok if the boot screen cant be reverted back to win7 then no problem but if atleast win7 can be made default then it would b gr8
[05:51] <dmogle> idan_: You want the screen settings.  You can set a screen turnoff time there
[05:51] <venkatmangudi> idan_, put display to sleep is what u need
[05:51] <idan_> i ddid it 1 minute
[05:51] <Jordan_U> myhero: Like I said, defaulting to Windows is easy.
[05:51] <idan_> and all the night the screen wasn't blank
[05:51] <myhero> k
[05:51] <Guest48587> Trouble with Chromium getting a segmentation fault
[05:52] <myhero> how ?
[05:52] <Fallout301> Jordan_U, arent u basically just editing the grub file and putting windows first?
[05:52] <Fallout301> I can't remember exactly what its called
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> It seems that my Google Chrome hates me when I'm using root
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Fallout301: No. I am going to have myhero change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> Pages just suddenly die
[05:52] <TRAVISg> Chromium apps/chromium.rc does not exist
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> And Google Chrome turns unresponsive within 10 seconds of execution
[05:52] <kandinski> I want to search for a string in the package name
[05:53] <Fallout301> yea, thats what i was referring it, ive never done the process tho so i didn't know where it was hidden
[05:53] <Jordan_U> myhero: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg so I can find the proper value for GRUB_DEFAULT.
[05:53] <kandinski> so apt-cache search won't work for me, because it finds that string anywhere in a package description
[05:53] <kandinski> any idea?
[05:53] <myhero> yea doing pastebin
[05:53] <idan_> so what i need if it not works..
[05:53] <venkatmangudi> idan_, did u display to sleep is what u need
[05:53] <TRAVISg> I am also having major problems with Chromium
[05:53] <idan_> yes
[05:53] <idan_> just the screen
[05:54] <myhero> http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> fot both ac power and battery?
[05:54] <idan_> that the computer will keep running
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> *for
[05:54] <idan_> no just i want the screenblack and the computer keep work
[05:54] <Vlad___> Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> then go to screensaver settings
[05:55] <venkatmangudi> set blank screen
[05:55] <venkatmangudi> if u put display to sleep, computer will still work
[05:55] <TRAVISg> I can no longer use chromium error in terminal say segmentation fault
[05:56] <TRAVISg> Something about apps/chromium.rc does not exist
[05:56] <myhero> @jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:56] <idan_> this option is in system settings?
[05:56] <myhero> @jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:56] <Jordan_U> myhero: Run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub", which will bring up a text editor. Change   GRUB_DEFAULT=0   to GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[05:57] <idan_> i don't know where the screensaver settings..
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> yep... should be in display...
[05:57] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> ubuntu 11.10?
[05:57] <idan_> yep
[05:57] <idan_> ubuntu 11.10
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> no screen settings?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> myhero: Then save and close the file and run "sudo update-grub" and try rebooting to test that it worked.
[05:57] <idan_> oh screen
[05:57] <idan_> yes i have
[05:58] <idan_> and i need to tick the option dim screen to save power?
[05:58] <myhero> 1min jordan editor came up
[05:58] <venkatmangudi> yep
[05:58] <georgelappies> morning all, has the day on which precise will be released been determined yet?
[05:59] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[05:59] <georgelappies> venkatmangudi: was that an affirmation on my question, if so what is the date? ;)
[06:00] <TRAVISg> any know what is up with Chromium??? I have tried complete removal and reinstall still no luck. I am running ubuntu 11.10
[06:01] <mi3> hello!
[06:01] <TRAVISg> I have done a purge from terminal and reinstalled chromium stable still seem to be missing apps/chromium.rc whatever that is
[06:01] <venkatmangudi> Georgelappies, i am sorry. was responding to idan_
[06:01] <jeremiah_> is it possible to get sun java 6 for 12.04?
[06:01] <idan_> thank you very much it really work!
[06:01] <idan_> thank you!!
[06:02] <iceroot> jeremiah_: #ubuntu+1 and yes but only from the oracle website
[06:02] <myhero> @jordan error encountered - pranshu@pranshu-Lenovo-G550:~$ sudo update-grub
[06:02] <myhero> /etc/default/grub: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[06:02] <venkatmangudi> have fun, idan_
[06:02] <jeremiah_> iceroot, how do i instal? the website isn't helpful.
[06:02] <myhero> jordan...
[06:03] <iceroot> jeremiah_: try to use openjdk instead its free
[06:03] <TRAVISg> Can any one help me with Chromium?
[06:03] <jeremiah_> ice command?
[06:03] <jeremiah_> iceroot, command.....
[06:04] <iceroot> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[06:04] <iceroot> jeremiah_: and 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <jeremiah_> iceroot, ok and thanks!
[06:05] <myhero> jordan_u
[06:07] <nathwill> jeremiah_ come party in #ubuntu+1, we have cookies
[06:07] <TRAVISg> Am I in the wrong place to ask about Chromium no functioning in Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:08] <myhero> jordan where r u ?
[06:09] <myhero> any1
[06:09] <Jordan_U> myhero: Can you pastebin the current contents of /etc/default/grub? You probably forgot the quotation marks.
[06:10] <myhero> yea i left them
[06:10] <myhero> ok trying again with quotation marks
[06:12] <monadist> what's the best resource to get started with qt... I want to use it to learn C++
[06:14] <myhero> ok jordan terminal did something....rebooting and checking...
[06:34] <Vlad_____> Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (
[06:37] <Agent_bob> is this a typo      (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)   should be   (/home/wirelesscheck.sh)    the extra space will cause a failure
[06:37] <Agent_bob>   @ Vlad_____
[06:38] <DropsOfSerenity> can someone send me a message? just wanna test somethin
[06:38] <Agent_bob> np
[06:40] <irenicus19> anyone knows how to effectively use powertop? :P
[06:41] <irenicus19> or how to save power ton laptp..
[06:41] <irenicus19> laptop*
[06:43] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: There is no typo in crontab, it in googletranslate ;)  syslog: CRON[5585]: (root) CMD (/home/wirelesscheck.sh) - path is ok.
[06:44] <Agent_bob> vlad_____ ok,   just noticed the space there and knew that if it was in your file it would cause problems.      i don't know what else to tell you.   good luck ;/
[06:44] <Vlad_____> crontab: */5 * * * * /home/wirelesscheck.sh
[06:45] <Agent_bob> vlad_____    errr    /home/script.name     ?           not  /home/someuser/script.name  ?
[06:46] <Agent_bob> just checking.
[06:49] <FireStorms> hi guys, few months back I installed some audio package. Now when I plug my headphones into my laptop the sound does not stop playing through the laptop's speaker. I have forgot the name of the package too! Is there anyway I can find it?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> vlad_____   just a suggestion, when makeing scripts for cron or init you might want to protect them by letting root own them and putting them in /etc/ "or some other system dir".     if you own a script that cron runs as root, if someone accesses the script and changes it....  they own you!
[06:51] <test1234567> #ubuntu-de
[06:51] <nathwill> Agent_bob, i seem to remember a story about a girl pwn'ing her families parental controls that way...
[06:51] <Agent_bob> vlad_____ if root owns it and it's not writable to anyone else, and they can't delete it and replace it with their own script....   it's much harder to exploit.
[06:52] <test1234567> Hallo I need some help with flash and ubuntu 11.10
[06:52] <Agent_bob> nathwill   not familear with the story,  but it just stands to reason that you don't want root running your scripts if there is any chance of them being changed.
[06:54] <Agent_bob> nathwill  it's like locking the house and leaving the key under the welcome mat    :)))
[06:54] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: who should owned script with "ifconfig down/up" and where i should store it?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> vlad_____    owner   root:root    permissions   750  or  755    and probably  in  /etc/  or   /var/   or even  /usr/local/sbin
[06:55] <nathwill> agent_bob: http://tinyurl.com/7jbtl3a
[06:56] <Agent_bob> nathwill  nice
[06:56] <Vlad_____> Agent_bob: thx. I try it now.
[06:56] <nathwill> vlad___ if it's a script that runs at network up/down events, and you're using networkmanager, /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ is brilliant
[06:57] <Agent_bob> nathwill   but cron is running every 5 minutes    so that would work but is like /usr/local/sbin   kinda
[06:57] <Agent_bob> one could also use  /root/
[06:57] <Agent_bob> that's safe       "sort of"   :S
[06:57] <nathwill> oh
[06:57] <nathwill> sorry, didn't have the full picture
[06:58] <tim167> help, more and more programs start to SEGFAULT on me, what could be wrong?
[06:58] <Bragex9> how can I from a terminal window force ubuntu to reboot and perform a filesystem check?
[06:58] <Agent_bob> nathwill   your suggest wasn't bad...    just lacked one bit of info        so  not a problem.
[06:58] <Agent_bob> good night all   !
[07:00] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[07:01] <tim167> chromium-browser > Segmentation Fault, Evolution > Segmentation Fault, nautilus > Segmentation Fault.... help! I do have enough free disk space, I do have enough RAM afaict...help please ! thanks
[07:01] <kingkatari> checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[07:01] <kingkatari> checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[07:01] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[07:01] <kingkatari> how can i check to make sure it is installed
[07:01] <Myrtti> tim167: could you first tell us what version of Ubuntu you are using?
[07:02] <kingkatari> 11.10
[07:02] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, sudo touch /forcefsck        sudo shutdown -r now
[07:02] <Bragex9> thanks
[07:02] <tim167> Myrtti: Ubuntu 11.10
[07:02] <Myrtti> tim167: have you done RAM test yet?
[07:03] <tim167> Myrtti: how do I test RAM ?
[07:04] <tim167> Myrtti: I'm trying now with the 'System Testing' application
[07:07] <kingkatari> can anyone help with that problem?
[07:14] <kilik90s> quien viv e?
[07:14] <kilik90s> qien vive?
[07:14] <kilik90s> exico
[07:14] <Myrtti> tim167: if you restart your computer, and press shift at the very beginning of boot, you should come up with a list of options including Ubuntu, and memtest+. Pick Memtest and let it run a few times, preferably overnight if possible
[07:15] <tim167> Myrtti: ok, I'll try that later, thanks
[07:15] <FireStorms> can I make Ubuntu speak to my Ipad 3?
[07:18] <philip__> guys, is it possible to build an rtl driver with dkms module for someone who can't access internet during install?
[07:18] <djszapi> Hey! Has anybody tried Ubuntu on this Panasonic toughbook ? http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-laptop-toughbook-19.asp
[07:18] <paulus68> is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this
[07:19] <djszapi> or basically on any fully-rugged Panasonic toughbook ?
[07:24] <ennio> hi
[07:24] <ennio> !list
[07:24] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[07:24] <kingkatari>  checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[07:24] <kingkatari>  checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[07:24] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[07:24] <kingkatari> but i have it installed so what can i do
[07:25] <auronandace> djszapi: should work, not sure about the gobi 2000 mobile broadband or the intel graphics though
[07:25] <djszapi> auronandace: yep, just checked out a youtube video, and looks good.
[07:25] <haux> Can somebody recommend a program that will search files for a specific piece of text?
[07:26] <auronandace> djszapi: depends how new the intel graphics is, also the specs don't mention if it uses sandy bridge
[07:26] <Vlad___> Heh! "/home/wirelesscheck.sh: line 2: iwconfig: command not found"
[07:26] <Vlad___> why?
[07:27] <djszapi> haux: grep
[07:28] <pmmr> haux: find .| grep -r 'text_to_search' *
[07:28] <DropsOfSerenity> Vlad___, use /sbin/iwconfig
[07:28] <haux> pmmr, if i want to search the entire filesystem, do I replace * with / ?
[07:29] <gtech_> I'm booted via liveCD but it's 32bit and the drive I'm mounting is a 64bit install, is there still an easy way to add a user to the install or should I stick to grabbing a 64bit live cd so I can chroot then adduser?
[07:29] <pmmr> haux: run it in / with sudo
[07:29] <haux> ok, thank you guys
[07:29] <pmmr> haux: np ;)
[07:29] <Vlad___> $iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script
[07:29] <philip__> I'm officially off. Later. :)
[07:30] <gtech_> Heh I need to be able to login with the new user so I can SU
[07:31] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: $iwconfig - work fine. But it isn't working in my script. Why?
[07:33] <bekks> gtech_: you dont need su, but sudo.
[07:33] <pmmr> or sudo -i
[07:33] <bekks> All you need to do is to provide a password to your new user.
[07:33] <bekks> sudo -i is discouraged.
[07:34] <pmmr> bekks: Because ? If you know what you're doing ;)
[07:34] <gtech_> erm what? I have no user I can login as when I boot the install, so I'm trying to add one
[07:34] <bekks> pmmr: _If_ - thats the culprit.
[07:34] <gtech_> the point is so that I can login, then su to a user that I've been locked out of because I borked my .profile and it's caused the startup to hang
[07:35] <bekks> gtech_: what are you really trying? During the install, you dont need to log in as user anyway.
[07:35] <bekks> Just get a live cd and fix that broken .profile
[07:35] <paulus68> is there an easy way to check if a user is connected to my proxy? I also want to be notified by mail when this user is connected to my proxy? how do I achieve this
[07:36] <gtech_> I'm using install to refer to the linux files that I've installed onto the drive already
[07:36] <coder2> Hello. Please help me to resolve shutdown issue with natty. My system is just repbooting instead of power off.
[07:36] <bekks> paulus68: No, there is no easy way.
[07:37] <coder2> Lucid worked well though.
[07:37] <bekks> gtech_: Are you installing Ubuntu or are you trying to recover your .profile?
[07:37] <gtech_> I can't get to the .profile because my home dir is heavily encrypted and I have the login creds which by some opaque method yields the encryption passpharse which I have lost
[07:37] <bekks> gtech_: So you even lost the key to decrypt your encrypted installation?
[07:37] <gtech_> but if I can login as another user, I can su to my normal user, which will decrypt my home dir
[07:38] <paulus68> bekks: ok is there a way to achieve this I am using squid?
[07:38] <gtech_> bekks, yes, yes I did :(
[07:38] <bekks> paulus68: Sounds like heavy scripting, on-the-fly log file analysis, and usage of cron and smtp to inform you via mail.
[07:38] <paulus68> bekks: ok
[07:39] <bekks> gtech_: With a lost passphrase, you cant decrypt anything.
[07:40] <gtech_> bekks, nope the passphrase is on my disk, which is encrypted by my login, but I don't know where the encrypted passphrase is and it isn't at .ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase like the ubuntu docs suggest
[07:40] <gtech_> BUT ubuntu automatically grabs it when I login, so I'm relying on it
[07:41] <gtech_> thus, the reason why I'm using this roundabout method
[07:41] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: ok, thanks u. I find that problem with PATH: in crontab
[07:42] <bekks> Vlad___: Using the crontab, you have no environment - you have to specify absolute paths to applications you want to run.
[07:42] <bekks> Vlad___: like /sbin/ifconfig instead of ifconfig.
[07:43] <gtech_> bekks, so chroot and adduser are my best options for creating a login?
[07:43] <bekks> gtech_: I still dont get why/what you are really trying, sorry.
[07:44] <coder2> Hello. Could anybody help, please.
[07:44] <bekks> !ask
[07:44] <gtech_> bekks, I'm trying to boot a liveCD, mount a drive which has the user I can't login to, create a user on that drive so I can login without the system hanging at login, then su
[07:45] <coder2> My system is running natty, It does not perform power off on shundown, just rebooting instead. How to fix it?
[07:45] <bekks> gtech_: su will invoke a login shell of the user you are trying to su to. Thus, it wont work, when the .profile is corrupted.
[07:47] <linuxuz3r> hello
[07:47] <linuxuz3r> how do i show menus in gnome shell
[07:47] <ubuntu__> linuxuz3r, click on the application tab on the panel
[07:48] <MarKsaitis> if I download and install latest precise paragon server, can I later on upgrade it to the one released on 26th april?
[07:48] <gtech_> bekks, okay great, I guess my next option is to try to find the encrypted passphrase that's on my disk, I set it up probably with Natty, how do you suggest I find that file?
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu__, i want the gnome shell with the classic menu
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> i used to have it but now i dont
[07:50] <Zenger> Hi guys,
[07:50] <bekks> gtech_: I never used ecryptfs (didnt make any sense to me at all) until now, sorry. Maybe the forums or the community help pages will help you.
[07:50] <Zenger> I've installed the nvidia driver but they have a very low res
[07:50] <Zenger> can't make bigger than 640x489
[07:50] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Yes.
[07:50] <Zenger> is there anyway I could change that ?
[07:51] <Heshanh> hewy guys first time running ubuntu here. i insalled lamp-server where do i find the apace config file
[07:51] <MarKsaitis> bekks, thank you!
[07:51] <gtech_> bekks, okay thanks
[07:52] <bekks> Heshanh: In /etc/ you will find the configuration files for apache, mysql and php.
[07:52] <bekks> Heshanh: How did you install your "lamp-server"?
[07:52] <pmmr> Heshanh: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -> Apache
[07:52] <Heshanh> so ect is where all the confi files are
[07:52] <Heshanh> wats the /var folder
[07:53] <Heshanh> cos i found www and figured thaths teh web root. but when i tried to create a folder in www it says persmission denied
[07:53] <pmmr> Heshanh: cd /var/www
[07:53] <pmmr> Heshanh: sudo mkdir "folder"
[07:54] <pmmr> Heshanh: sudo chmod -R 777 .
[07:54] <Heshanh> i cant use the gui?
[07:54] <bekks> No.
[07:54] <pmmr> Heshanh: hum... not really ;)
[07:55] <subthalamus> anybody a minbif user?
[07:55] <tim167> hello, I copied a directory structure, using Nautilus, the original is 5Gb in size, but Nautilus shows the copy as 54MB, but it changes size each time I look at right-click>Properties in Nautilus, it grows or shrinks each time, but never is 5 GB. I copied it using "cp -r ~/source ~/media/dest" and that process finished successfully...I suppose something is wrong with Nautilus...how else can I check the actual size of the copied directory and ma
[07:55] <tim167> ke sure that everything is there?
[07:55] <Heshanh> do i ahe to do sudo and give the password everytime i make a new dir
[07:55] <linuxuz3r> how can i see the folder
[07:55] <linuxuz3r> s
[07:56] <zahid> hello
[07:56] <pmmr> Heshanh: not after the chmod -R 777 .
[07:56] <zahid> anybody here from lahore
[07:57] <Heshanh> i did sudo mkdir test in /var/www  and it asked for the password
[07:57] <dcUnit3d> hey so i've got a question.  my upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.
[07:57] <subthalamus> minbif says it is running but dont see it bound to a port using netstat -p
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> i guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed
[07:58] <subthalamus> | minbig
[07:58] <subthalamus> *minbif
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> ?? ..  anyways is there any way to like finish or repair the upgrades using my live cd?
[07:58] <linuxuz3r> how do i install flash player
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> i would just reinstall, but i went through hell to get my dual graphics to work
[07:58] <arp-> liberal:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:58] <dcUnit3d> and i really don't feel like doing that again
[07:59] <arp-> linuxuz3r *
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> hey, can anyone help me please?
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> every time i try to google this, all that comes up is repairing the GRUB bootloader and that's not what i need to do
[08:01] <zeroblock> whats your problems
[08:01] <dcUnit3d> thanks man
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> my upgrade manager or whatever kept stopping in the middle of updating.  and i needed to restart anyways.
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> i guess it was dumb but i restarted. and now my system is hosed
[08:02] <dcUnit3d> like it gets to the point where it says ubuntu and there are 5 dots on the screen.  but it just sits there.
[08:03] <dcUnit3d> I've got the live cd in now.  is there a way to clean my apt-get packages from the live cd?
[08:03] <dcUnit3d> (not the packages that the live cd is using)
[08:06] <djszapi> auronandace: do you think it is worth spending more money for an emperorlinux supported toughbook, or I can manually get ubuntu work ? I have ten years of linux experience and strong programming background.
[08:06] <djszapi> auronandace: but I have never dealt with this question in topic. However installing linux nowadays is easy-peasy. I guess touch is not really a problem either nowadays, nor the keyboard.
[08:07] <djszapi> auronandace: perhaps the graphics stack, or something else ?
[08:07] <DropsOfSerenity> Vlad___, glad I helped, yeah those PATH vars are tricky, was about to tell you that that sort of stuff can get funky when dealing with scripts
[08:08] <Vlad___> DropsOfSerenity: ;)
[08:11] <opalepatrick> is it not possible to have a global inbox in thunderbird? Using ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. Cannot find the setting
[08:11] <linuxuz3r> any one have windows 7 recovery partition?
[08:11] <linuxuz3r> or windows vista recovery partition
[08:16] <kapz> I want to share my Samsung printer (ML-1670) connected via usb to Ubuntu 11.10  with Windows 7. bot pcs are in LAN. I have shared my printer via cups through IPP, I can also add it in windows..but when I send print job nothing happens...
[08:18] <kapz> damn it
[08:18] <bekks> kapz: Then check the cups logs.
[08:19] <nlko> hi, i am using gpg keys for encryption of files. can i use these public/private keys for ssh auth?
[08:19] <nlko> or do i need to generate different ones?
[08:19] <bekks> nlko: gpg keys cant be used with ssh.
[08:19] <linuxuz3r> can i run compiz on top of gnome shell?
[08:19] <nlko> bekks: thanks
[08:19] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I've just created a long and complex bash script.  It works perfectly, but every now and then I would like to run it within the terminal and see it enter the commands along with the output.  Is there a way to do this?
[08:19] <bekks> nlko: ssh-keygen -t dsa will generate a DSA keypair for your user.
[08:20] <nlko> bekks: and then i use that right?
[08:20] <bekks> nlko: Right.
[08:20] <bekks> jasonmsp: Just set "set -xv" directly after the "#!/bin/bash" line in your script.
[08:21] <jasonmsp> bekks: thanks i figured it was something simple..
[08:21] <kapz> thanks bekks, I've checked the log and this is what I've found: Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost
[08:21] <kapz> what does it mean?
[08:22] <bekks> kapz: That your client (the pc that wants to print) isnt allowed to print on that printer queue
[08:22] <totesmuhgoats> is the mplayer version in oneiric not multi threaded?
[08:23] <kapz> bekks: Isn't allowed? but why? I shared the printer in cups....I don't understand.
[08:33] <banseljaj> Hi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.10
[08:33] <progre55> Hi guys. I have a problem since a couple of days with my encrypted home not mounting automatically on logon, and every time I boot up, I have to go to tty and manually "sudo mount /home". Any suggestions, please?
[08:33] <team> Hi, i dont understand the difference between initrd and initramfs ?
[08:35] <skurcey> wich firewall should i use, please? (ubuntu 11.10)
[08:35] <jetty> skurcey: ufw
 one is fs , other uses it
[08:36] <iceroot> skurcey: normally you dont need a firewall
[08:36] <steinesel> I am trying to configure my 11.04 32bit OS to function with my Garmin Oregon GPSr. I am getting this Error Message from Gebbabel: [ERROR] XSERIAL: Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX': No such file or directory
[08:36] <steinesel> [ERROR] Cannot open serial port '/media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX'
[08:36] <steinesel> GARMIN:Can't init /media/GARMIN/Garmin/gpx/geocaches.GPX
[08:36] <llutz_> team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initd
[08:37] <llutz_> team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[08:37] <dcUnit3d> i would really reallly reallly appreciate it if someone could help me
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> i hosed my ubuntu by canceling an apt-get update
[08:38] <llutz_> steinesel: how do you try to access it?
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> and i'm trying to repair it with a Live CD
[08:38] <banseljaj> dcUnit3d: Continue?
[08:38] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: it's going to take a fair ammount of effort to resolve that
[08:38] <dcUnit3d> i chrooted to my mounted partition
[08:39] <banseljaj> dcUnit3d: First explain "hosed"
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> but i'm getting "chould not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor"
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> thanks banseljaj
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> and ikonia
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> i was trying to update my xserver settings to include a second monitor
[08:39] <dcUnit3d> and i had already started to update some of my packages
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> i noticed that the progress bar was stuck for awhile
[08:40] <steinesel> I used the gebabbel as a gui for gpsbabel. pointed the device toward the mounted spot (which appeared on my desktop after plugging the device)
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> and i hit cancel and restarted
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> and then it just wouldn't restart
[08:40] <gensv> is there anyone else than me who has problems fetching the package lists from the security repos?
[08:40] <dcUnit3d> it got stuck on the screen with "ubuntu" and 5 dots
[08:40] <llutz_> steinesel: idk about oregon, older like vista hcx etc need to unload "garmin" kernel-module and being accessed through "USB:"
[08:41] <dcUnit3d> so i assumed that it was in the middle of updating and it didn't finish updating a critical package
[08:41] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: fixing these things from this point of view is normally a big ammount of effort and takes a reasonable level of experience
[08:41] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: you may want to consider backing up your data (while you have a livecd) and then just re-installing
[08:41] <steinesel> I have put the kernel module on the blacklist
[08:42] <ohmy> Hi, a have a big raw binary file, i know that it contains some png files inside and i'm looking for a way of extracting them, do anyone know a solution ?
[08:42] <gensv> oh sorry apparently i have problem fetching the package list for any site that is in the us
[08:42] <ikonia> ohmy: run the binary file
[08:42] <ikonia> ohmy: run "file" against it to confirm details
[08:42] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: the only issue i would have with that is that there was one night where i spent literally 12 hours getting my dual graphics card to work.
[08:43] <gensv> cannot ping us.archive.ubuntu.com either
[08:43] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: so backup your xorg.conf
[08:43] <steinesel> when looking as the dmesg output the gpsr is recognised as serial and not attached to tty0
[08:43] <ohmy> ikonia: By binary i meant a raw data file
[08:43] <llutz_> steinesel: if you mounted the oregon, can't you just use nautilus to access the files
[08:43] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: i think i would know how to get it to work now, but still.
[08:43] <ikonia> ohmy: "raw data file"???? what
[08:43] <ikonia> ohmy: run "file" against it and tell me what it says
[08:43] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: ok, so you can spend hours trying to fix your in flux system, or you could spend 30 minutes re-installing then 30 minutes applying your settings/restoring your data
[08:44] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: it was more than that, i have to install nvidia drivers, etc etc.
[08:44] <steinesel> yes I can but other applications (such as OCM) will not work without Gpsbabel fully functional :-(
[08:44] <gensv> but i still cannot connect to the ppas
[08:44] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: i have everything on a second partition
[08:44] <llutz_> steinesel: does "gpsbabel -w -i garmin -f usb: -o gpx -F geocaches.gpx" work on cli?
[08:44] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: great, so 30 minutes re-installing then
[08:45] <ohmy> ikonia: foo.db: data
[08:45] <ikonia> ohmy: is it a .db extension ?
[08:46] <steinesel> Nope I get: Found no Garmin USB devices. (although the garmin is mounted and I can go there with nautilus)
[08:46] <ohmy> ikonia: no no it doesn't have any extension, its a file i extracted from some old hard drive that crashes, when i read it with a hex editor i saw many PNG IEND tags that are specific to png
[08:46] <llutz_> steinesel: umount it, "sudo modprobe -r garmin" and try again
[08:47] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: ok thats what ill do.  thanks for the advice.
[08:47] <ikonia> ohmy: you need to know how it was created then
[08:47] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: I know it's not "cool" but it will give you a solid stable, working system in 30 minutes, rather than a working system that may have problems after 5 hours of trying to work it out
[08:47] <progre55> so can anyone help me out, please? with my home not being mounted automatically?
[08:47] <Zenger> Hi guys , I'm desperate, I've installed the nvidia driver and it gives me low resolution. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make the resolution 1024x764 but I need 1280x1024. Now the nvidia-settings shows me only 640 and 360 res.
[08:47] <llutz_> steinesel: gpsbabel does not work with mounted devices, it uses direct access (it did at least with older garmin-gpsr)
[08:48] <Zenger> How can I set a bigger resolution, maybe xrender.
[08:48] <ohmy> ikonia: i only know that my drive crashed, and i have lot lot of files i cannot chek how each of them was created, for sure it looks that that file containes lot of png images and wanted to know if per magic, any of the recovery tool can look inside data files for give file format and extract it
[08:48] <progre55> Zenger: did you try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[08:49] <ikonia> ohmy: to know how to extrat it you need to know how it was created
[08:49] <Zenger> progre55: It does nothing.
[08:49] <steinesel> llutz_ : I get: FATAL: Module garmin not found.
[08:49] <ikonia> ohmy: or at least how it's put together,
[08:49] <dcUnit3d> ikonia: that's true.  just a little frustrated.  not what i wanted to do tonight, was going to set up a git server on here.  just needed to change my monitor.  i really do appreciate it though.  thanks.
[08:49] <ohmy> ikonia: They are concatenate
[08:49] <paulus68> Ikonia: hi, little question is there in squid a possibility to check when a user is connected and that I can be notified by mail when a connection by this user is done?
[08:49] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: if you are going to use this for work, eg run a git server so you can do work, get a stable box
[08:49] <llutz_> steinesel:  "sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps"
[08:49] <ohmy> ikonia: each png after the other
[08:49] <ikonia> dcUnit3d: as in re-install to get a stable box
[08:50] <progre55> Zenger: or you could back up your xorg.conf and delete it, when you restart, it should be auto-generated.. but dont forget to back it up first
[08:50] <Zenger> I tried - gives 640 resolution
[08:50] <Erwin-C64> Hello, I want to download Ubuntu but am not sure what version to choose. I have an intel I7 and 16 GB ram, so I want a 64 bit OS, should I download AMD64?
[08:50] <ikonia> ohmy: you'll have to look at splitting them out, you'll need to work out start/end points for each then cut them out, if you can work out start/end points should be doable
[08:50] <llutz_> Erwin-C64: yes
[08:50] <ikonia> paulus68: not really very realistic, the best you can do is tail the access log, and when you see the "auth" of that user mail out
[08:51] <ohmy> ikonia: thank you
[08:51] <paulus68> ikonia: ok what would the tail command be?
[08:51] <steinesel> llutz_ : Just to confirm - after sudo modprobe -r garmin_gps I plug the gps back to system ?
[08:51] <bekks> paulus68: I told you "no" already ;)
[08:51] <Erwin-C64> llutz_: Thanks, why would they call it AMD when it runs on Intel also :P
[08:51] <bekks> paulus68: You have to grep the logs.
[08:51] <ikonia> paulus68: "tail" is the command
[08:51] <llutz_> steinesel: yes, and don't mount it
[08:51] <paulus68> bekks: I know what you said
[08:51] <steinesel> lluty_ I believe it will automount
[08:52] <llutz_> steinesel: then umount it
[08:52] <MarKsaitis> can I upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to that new one 12 which will be released this month?
[08:52] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Yes.
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> Like if I have openvz with ubuntu 11, i can then just upgrade when that new one will be released?
[08:53] <bekks> MarKsaitis: No.
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> hmz
[08:53] <MarKsaitis> why not
[08:54] <bekks> MarKsaitis: There are two Ubuntu 11 versions, 11.04 and 11.10 - you cant update 11.04 directly.
[08:54] <Zenger> Any ideeas
[08:54] <Zenger> ??
[08:54] <triptec> nouveau doesn't work, I don't get even the grub menu, anyone who knows what I can do?
[08:54] <bekks> MarKsaitis: And using an openvz, there are fair chances to break that vm :)
[08:54] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too
[08:54] <steinesel> llutz_ : done
[08:55] <MarKsaitis> what version of ubuntu do I need to have in order to upgrade directly to that ubuntu 12 precise I think it is isnt it?
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but that is just guessing and i am not n100% sure
[08:55] <banseljaj> Hi all. I have trouble recieveing files over bluetooth on my latop, it's 11.10. It is not connecting to my phone.
[08:55] <llutz_> steinesel: any erros from gpsbabel?
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.04
[08:55] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: you can upgrade to 12.04 by either 11.10, or 10.04
[08:55] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only from an older lts release you can upgrade directly
[08:56] <steinesel> llutz_ Yes: Found no Garmin USB devices.
[08:56] <mbroeker> banseljaj, do you have an older usb dongle?
[08:56] <MarKsaitis> how about ubuntu 11.04?
[08:56] <bekks> "No".
[08:56] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: what about it?
[08:56] <desomorphine> my former friend/bitter enemy is named stefano
[08:56] <bekks> MarKsaitis: You have to update it to 11.10 first.
[08:56] <llutz_> steinesel: try it as root, using sudo gpsbabel ... pls
[08:56] <desomorphine> he's gone
[08:56] <banseljaj> mbroeker: Not a dongle. Laptop has it integrated in Motherboard. It pairs fine with my cell.
[08:57] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: You'll have to update 11.04 to 11.10 first
[08:57] <MarKsaitis> hmz. I am confused now, very. I am just trying to buy myself an openvz plan which I could upgrade to ubuntu 12 LTS when it gets released
[08:57] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you can update every version to 12.04 but not directly, you have to update e.g. 10.10 - 11.04 - 11.10 12.04
[08:57] <MarKsaitis> ok
[08:57] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: And what seems to be the problem?
[08:57] <bekks> MarKsaitis: You cant update an openvz container the way you think you can.
[08:57] <steinesel> I checked the dmesg and this is what the system says after I plug the gps:[ 3948.140080] usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3948.273635] scsi7 : usb-storage 2-5:1.0
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.273848] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN Flash     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[08:58] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: what iceroot said
[08:58] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: imo openvz is using a shared kernel, so when you update you have to install the needed kernel-modules and the host needs the new kernel too
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.274212] scsi 7:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN SD Card   1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.274939] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[08:58] <FloodBot1> steinesel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <steinesel> [ 3949.275375] sd 7:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[08:59] <MarKsaitis> so according to iceroot, if I buy openvz from something like vmport.com, then I can not update to ubuntu 12 LTS server
[08:59] <steinesel> llutz_ : and no change when running gpsbabel with sudo same error message
[08:59] <Defusal_> hi everyone
[08:59] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Not that easy. You have to use the old kernel or get the openvz host updated to a new kernel too.
[08:59] <banseljaj> MarKsaitis: openvz has which version?
[09:00] <Defusal_> can anyone tell me how i can get out of XFCE and back into ubuntu desktop without rebooting after using startx to get into XFCE?
[09:00] <MarKsaitis> is it bad to use older kernel in new ubuntu 12 os?
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: normally not
[09:01] <llutz_> steinesel: things seem to have changed with Oregons. sry no more ideas then. that worked since years for me with my old vistaHCX and some other devices.
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but why you need 12.04?
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: just because it is new?
[09:01] <MarKsaitis> sure, I want to be on the edge
[09:01] <steinesel> llutz_ Thanx for the help anyway!!!
[09:01] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: sorry, that is stupid
[09:01] <bekks> iceroot: ack.
[09:01] <llutz_> steinesel: check http://rfc1149.de/index.php#2010-10-31   and try again
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> it isnt, I want to have a new OS which will have support for the next 5 years
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> not so stupid is it
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> peace of mind
[09:02] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: first you did not say because of lts
[09:02] <llutz_> steinesel: good luck and happy caching:)
[09:02] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Then get a openvz hoster that supports 12.04 after it is released.
[09:02] <MarKsaitis> well, im only looking in to lts. anyways, thats what I want :)
[09:02] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the reason lts is of course not stupid, just the "i want always the newest software"
[09:03] <MarKsaitis> sure, I want the newest up to date stable, why not
[09:03] <llutz_> "newest up to date stable" is a oxymoron
[09:03] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: hm up to date and stable... hm
[09:03] <iceroot> llutz_: :)
[09:04] <MarKsaitis> well, I mean latest stable :)
[09:04] <iceroot> :)
[09:04] <MarKsaitis> I dont want 2 years old stable or 3 years old stable, I want the newest stable, simply true
[09:04] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: why not 2 years old stable?
[09:05] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: because that release is STABLE
[09:05] <bekks> MarKsaitis: And in 4.5 years, it is still stable, since LTS.
[09:05] <iceroot> and if you want ultra-stable there is a nother distro
[09:05] <heavy> how can I install budus xdcc???
[09:05] <DropsOfSerenity> MarKsaitis, stable can also mean working together properly, as if you have all the latest packages they may not all work together corectly.
[09:05] <bekks> heavy: Whats that?
[09:05] <DropsOfSerenity> MarKsaitis, while they may be individually stable, as a whole they will not be
[09:05] <prototype> rocking hi all
[09:05] <MarKsaitis> I think the newest stable is better than 2 years old stable. Otherwise nobody would develop the newer one
[09:05] <heavy> BuDuScRiPt
[09:06] <heavy> a plugin for xchat
[09:06] <bekks> heavy: some warez thing, right?
[09:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: newer does not mean better
[09:06] <prototype> i want to use facebook massenger in command mode anyone can help me ?
[09:06] <iceroot> prototype: have a look at bitlbee + irssi
[09:06] <MarKsaitis> so whats the point of developing a stable which is worse
[09:06] <MarKsaitis> =))))
[09:06] <bekks> prototype: Facebook doesnt support anything other than their webbased chat.
[09:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: its just when 12.04 is coming out it will not be stable like 10.04
[09:07] <scientes> bekks, that is not true, they support a minimal XMPP
[09:07] <scientes> bekks, prototype facebook works with pidgin and empathy
[09:07] <scientes> with XMPP
[09:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: so i dont get why people want 12.04 directly
[09:07] <DropsOfSerenity> prototype, look into pidgins cli interface, i'm pretty sure it can interface with facebook
[09:08] <scientes> iceroot, it has alot more features and better software, (unfortunately not systemd or kmod)
[09:08] <MarKsaitis> :) I just want to get my hands on the new stuff and leave them there
[09:08] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the software in 12.04 is at the moment not so good tested like the one from 10.04
[09:08] <DropsOfSerenity> prototype, it's name is finch
[09:08] <iceroot> scientes: better software?
[09:08] <bekks> more features?
[09:08] <bekks> Did they invent the wheel again? :)
[09:08] <siavashserver> simplified
[09:08] <scientes> well, alot of stuff is a moving target, 3.2 kernel supports alot more hardware
[09:09] <iceroot> less features because padevchooser is missing :(
[09:09] <scientes> iceroot, i think you can still do that with pulseaudio
[09:09] <bekks> scientes: A lot more hardware a home user never ever even knows about ;)
[09:09] <iceroot> scientes: yes
[09:09] <iceroot> scientes: but not that easy
[09:09] <scientes> bekks, not it terms of progress with radeon and nouveau driver
[09:09] <scientes> and also alot of other stuff
[09:10] <iceroot> scientes: and if i am correct a newer kernel was backported to 10.04
[09:10] <scientes> plenty of hardware progress
[09:10]  * scientes promotes newer kernels
[09:10] <mkultra_> yo yo yo
[09:10]  * scientes is using 12.04 and doing great
[09:10] <iceroot> i dont see a single reason to use 12.04 on a server in 1 month
[09:10] <mkultra_> metoo
[09:10] <scientes> iceroot, ubuntu isn't that great for servers
[09:10] <iceroot> scientes: that is the next part
[09:11] <scientes> cause universe is always out of date, esp in the LTS releases
[09:11] <scientes> buggy and security-prone to, compared to debian stable
[09:11] <iceroot> yes, debian stable is imo the best choice for a debian(based) system for a server
[09:11] <mkultra_> gentoo cluster style
[09:12] <scientes> ugggggh, binary packages is WAY better
[09:12] <mkultra_> lol
[09:12] <mkultra_> source is gangster dog
[09:12] <scientes> dont get me wrong, i do alot of compilation
[09:12] <scientes> but binary packages is still the way to go
[09:12] <mkultra_> yeah source takes forever lol
[09:12] <DropsOfSerenity> I would use debian for servers, more stable, don't need the latest packages.
[09:13] <mkultra_> but like in a small office setting beowolf a bunch of pcs and make em all compile at the same time
[09:14] <Defusal_> if anyone can tell me how to start ubuntu-desktop gnome from terminal, please let me know
[09:14] <scientes> its called distcc Mkaysi
[09:14] <scientes> * mkultra_
[09:14] <mkultra_> should be startx defusal
[09:14] <bekks> mkultra_: beowulf is pretty dead - use dicc or icecream instead. :)
[09:14] <mkultra_> dead u say?
[09:14] <scientes> Defusal_, /etc/init.d/*dm restart
[09:14] <bekks> *distcc
[09:14] <scientes> Defusal_, and then if you want apps, you have to do DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal
[09:14] <Defusal_> mkultra, that starts XFCE which has no sound
[09:14] <bekks> mkultra_: Dead as in "He's dead, Jim. Just let him go."
[09:14] <iceroot> Defusal_: sudo service lightdm start
[09:14] <iceroot> Defusal_: sudo service gdm start
[09:14] <DropsOfSerenity> Defusal_, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[09:15] <iceroot> Defusal_: depending on your ubuntu version
[09:15] <iceroot> !upstart | DropsOfSerenity
[09:15] <scientes> !systemd
[09:15] <DropsOfSerenity> iceroot, ah yes forgot about that, thanks
[09:15] <scientes> upstart is obsolete
[09:15] <iceroot> scientes: not in ubuntu
[09:16] <scientes> iceroot, https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/systemd
[09:16] <heavy>  /server irc.openjoke.org
[09:16] <iceroot> scientes: yes, not default in ubuntu
[09:16] <scientes> iceroot, but Martin Pitt is a Canonical emplyee
[09:17] <iceroot> scientes: and?
[09:17] <scientes> so, they are finially catching up with debian :)
[09:17] <bekks> No.
[09:17] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:17] <bekks> you think they are just because _one_ employee ha a private PPA? Odd.
[09:17] <iceroot> scientes: as i said default is upstart and we are in #ubuntu and only teach supported things
[09:18] <Defusal_> "sudo service gdm start" almost works
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: we have wayland in 12.04 too. what do you think? it is now the default? of course not
[09:18] <scientes> we support all sort of unsupported stuff, its about solving problems
[09:18] <Defusal_> but it says that its in low graphics mode, wont let me reconfigure and seems to wait forever for teh display to restart
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: and ppas are even mor unofficial
[09:18] <Defusal_> any ideas?
[09:18] <iceroot> scientes: we support here only supported stuff
[09:19] <scientes> Defusal_, paste the output of "lspci" on the command line
[09:19] <scientes> Defusal_, you could also try service gdm stop
[09:19] <scientes> and then after that is done service gdm start
[09:20] <scientes> which might work better
[09:20] <Defusal_> scientes, how can i paste something?
[09:20] <bekks> !paste
[09:20] <Defusal_> i have to switch my keyboards usb cable just to be able to type on the machine
[09:20] <scientes> Defusal_, which one doesn't work, PS/2 or USB?
[09:20] <Defusal_> scientes, stop says unknown instance
[09:21] <scientes> Defusal_, and do you see anything interesting in "dmesg"?
[09:21] <Defusal_> scientes, i usually use vnc for all access to the machine
[09:21] <scientes> Defusal_, also !ssh -X
[09:21] <scientes> !Xforwarding
[09:21] <Defusal_> i just need xubuntu to work again, sigh
[09:21] <scientes> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X-Forwarding <--reasonable explaination of x forwarding
[09:22] <scientes> Defusal_, usually /etc/init.d/*dm restart works, for me
[09:22] <Defusal_> scientes, "dmesg" floods my screen, how am i supposed to see anything?
[09:22] <scientes> the low graphics might mean that you are using a propritary driver Defusal_ and maybe a restart will work
[09:22] <jpds> scientes: You could use xpra instead.
[09:22] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:22] <Defusal_> so screwed
[09:23] <Defusal_> i would be happy to just get it working in low graphics mode
[09:23] <Defusal_> any idea how to do that?
[09:23] <Defusal_> i don't care how it looks, i need sound working
[09:23] <scientes> jpds, i dont want persistance
[09:23] <scientes> jpds, X apps and persistance does not meet in a ven diagram of my computing
[09:24] <lpe> afternoon gents, anyone seen this before and knows how to solve it? http://hastebin.com/tayitotane.php
[09:24] <Guest61815> Hi, is there a way to run a script when the charger is unplugged?
[09:24] <scientes> Defusal_, then just click the "run in low graphics mode this time"
[09:24] <Defusal_> starting gdm and saying run in low graphics just sits on "Stand by one minute while display restarts"
[09:24] <Defusal_> scientes ^
[09:24] <scientes> ahh
[09:24] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:25]  * scientes hasn't had that error since, like, 9.04
[09:25] <Defusal_> ffs
[09:25] <scientes> usually meant, (for me) that i needed to restart for dkms to make nvidia work again
[09:25] <Defusal_> i can't waste this amount of time :(
[09:25] <scientes> Defusal_, did you try rebooting?
[09:25] <Defusal_> scientes, graphics is intel
[09:25] <Defusal_> rebooting will waste far more time
[09:26] <scientes> oh ok, that should jsut work
[09:26] <Defusal_> that is the issue
[09:26] <mkultra_> gksu jockey-gtk didnt install nvidia right?
[09:26] <scientes> Defusal_, what version?
[09:26] <scientes> (of ubuntu)
[09:27] <Defusal_> scientes: 10.10
[09:28] <sudobeep> salve a tutti!
[09:28] <bekks> !it
[09:28] <Onixs>  si
[09:28] <Defusal_> ***************
[09:28] <Defusal_> thanks for trying anyway scientes
[09:28] <sudobeep> hi to all
[09:29] <Defusal_> im completely screwed
[09:29] <Defusal_> looks like theres no quick fix
[09:29] <scientes> Defusal_, what i would do at that point would be install an up to date kernel
[09:29] <scientes> and maybe !xorg-edgers
[09:29] <scientes> !xorg-edgers
[09:29] <Defusal_> scientes, and that would help me start xubuntu without rebooting?
[09:29] <Defusal_> i think not
[09:29] <scientes> but that is a risky proposition, considering that its kinda old
[09:29] <scientes> no that would def require reboot
[09:30] <scientes> Defusal_, oh, you can just do DESKTOP=:0 application
[09:30] <Simmons> Hello, can someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win7
[09:30] <scientes> like DESKTOP=:0 gnome-shell
[09:30] <scientes> Defusal_, when you have the "wait till i restart" going
[09:30] <scientes> run metacity to get control over windows
[09:30] <Defusal_> what?
[09:30] <Defusal_> i don't follow
[09:31] <Defusal_> when you have the "wait till i restart" going
[09:31] <scientes> ok, from the terminal on the tty
[09:31] <Defusal_> what wait till restart?
[09:31] <scientes> when it says "wait til i reastart", then hit ctrl-alt-f1
[09:31] <scientes> and then log in
[09:31] <scientes> and then do "DESKTOP=:0 gnome-terminal"
[09:31] <scientes> then do ctrl-alt-f7
[09:31] <scientes> and type in "metacity --replace & "
[09:32] <scientes> and then you can launch whatever the xubuntu menu is, etc
[09:32] <mkultra_> just install tilda, and synaptic
[09:32] <Defusal_> scientes, i don't have a gnome-terminal
[09:32] <Defusal_> this is xubuntu
[09:32] <scientes> Defusal_, then use xterm
[09:32] <mkultra_> would be xfce4-terminal
[09:32] <scientes> or xterm...
[09:32] <mkultra_> xterm blows lol
[09:33] <scientes> it also works
[09:33] <Defusal_> xfce4-terminal is not installed
[09:33] <mkultra_> lxterms good though
[09:33] <Simmons> can someone tell how to replace linux mint with ubuntu? I have also dualboot with win7
[09:33] <Defusal_> xterm says DISPLAY is not set
[09:33] <mkultra_> install a terminal lol
[09:33] <Defusal_> :((
[09:33] <scientes> Defusal_, "DISPLAY=:0 xterm"
[09:33] <mkultra_> sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[09:33] <scientes> all on one line Defusal_
[09:33] <Defusal_> mkultra_, i just need to get xubuntu desktop open
[09:33] <Defusal_> scientes, you already said that
[09:33] <Defusal_> it does not work
[09:33] <prototype> thanks freinds for finch
[09:33] <Defusal_> like i just told you
[09:33] <mkultra_> startxfce4
[09:33] <Defusal_> nothing works :(
[09:33] <mkultra_> ?
[09:33] <scientes> well if you type that DISPLAY is set
[09:34] <Defusal_> mkultra_, that is the one thing i do NOT want to do
[09:34] <Defusal_> i need sound
[09:34] <Amdpc> Simmons : rrinstall mint on ubu tu partition.
[09:34] <Defusal_> xubuntu has sound, xfce does not
[09:34] <scientes> Defusal_, ????that doesn't do anything about sound
[09:34] <__sjh> loha, using 10.04, trying to change locale have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale, but after running update-locale lang=en_GB.UTF-8, relogged, then run locale, now i see LANG= .... and nothing else, any ideas?
[09:34] <Defusal_> scientes, xubuntu was working with sound before
[09:34] <scientes> Defusal_, to get sound manually do "pulseaudio --daemonize"
[09:34] <Defusal_> when i used startx, it started xfce instead
[09:34] <Defusal_> with no sound
[09:34] <bekks> Defusal_: You have far more severe problems rather than "no sound", dont you?
[09:35] <scientes> but yeah, it sounds like the whole system is borked, and you should backup and reinstall with 11.10 or 12.04
[09:35] <Defusal_> bekks, sound is my only requirement at this stage
[09:35] <Defusal_> scientes, it is a live boot from a usb drive.
[09:35] <Simmons> Amdpc I need to choose something else? and what? and I have widnows partitons and mint partition I need to format mint partition?
[09:35] <Defusal_> i just need sound working
[09:35] <scientes> oh geeze, then reformat it, and use a more recent version
[09:36] <Defusal_> which was working when xubuntu desktop was wroking
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, as i said, pulseaudio --daemonize
[09:36] <bekks> Defusal_: Minutes ago it was the wrong desktop environment...
[09:36] <Defusal_> scientes, what part are you not following
[09:36] <scientes> that will launch sound Defusal_
[09:36] <Defusal_> i can't even reboot, that would take too long to start everything up again
[09:36] <Defusal_> and get everything configured
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, xfce != sound
[09:36] <Defusal_> i just need it working
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, they are totally differn't things
[09:36] <Defusal_> scientes, i told you
[09:36] <Defusal_> xubuntu had sound
[09:36] <Defusal_> it was working
[09:36] <FloodBot1> Defusal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <scientes> Defusal_, yeah i read what you said, but its not useful
[09:37] <fidel> Defusal_: could you resummarize your entire problem again?
[09:37] <scientes> Defusal_, because it doesn't describe what is actually happening at the software level, its just unreliable heresay at this point
[09:37] <fidel> as in - giving a compact but complete summary
[09:37] <scientes> good idea
[09:37] <Defusal_> scientes, does pulse audio only work when a xserver is running?
[09:37] <Defusal_> because it fails to start from tty
[09:37] <scientes> Defusal_, pulse can work without any x at all
[09:38] <Defusal_> well it fails
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, it might already be running
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, no wait, it might require dbus to be running
[09:38] <scientes> Defusal_, which generally is only launched with x11
[09:38] <bekks> dbus does not need X itself.
[09:38] <scientes> bekks, true
[09:39] <Defusal_> fidel, xubuntu was running, it got killed, i need sound for a critical application to be able to run, using startx starts xfce instead of xubuntu desktop with no sound, using service start gdm says low graphics and hangs waiting for the xserver to start
[09:39] <scientes> now, if ubuntu was using systemd dbus might be able to launch itsself (the session bus that is ) right?
[09:39] <__sjh> ok.... os, is there another channel for ubuntu server discussion?
[09:39] <scientes> Defusal_, are you running as root by chance?
[09:39] <bekks> scientes: Ubuntu does not use systemd. Done.
[09:39] <Defusal_> scientes, no
[09:40] <llutz_> __sjh: #ubuntu-server
[09:40] <Defusal_> i'll try start xfce and then pulseaudio
[09:40] <scientes> Defusal_, yes try that
[09:40] <scientes> and if you can try to start pulseaudio from a terminal in X
[09:40] <__sjh> llutz_, thanks, i'll go try over there ;)
[09:40] <scientes> cause you get differn't environment variables there
[09:41] <Defusal_> scientes, still says "Daemon startup failed"
[09:41] <Defusal_> f***
[09:41] <scientes> Defusal_, ps aux | grep pulse
[09:41] <scientes> it could already be running
[09:42] <Defusal_> scientes: it is not
[09:42] <scientes> if you avoid the --daemonize option it might give better output
[09:42] <Thermoelectric> Question: Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 from a hard drive, it boots to the installer, but stalls when it can't find the cdrom drive. Any ideas?
[09:43] <Defusal_> scientes: it cant connect to dbus socket
[09:43] <Defusal_> any ideas? :/
[09:43] <scientes> Thermoelectric, are you using unetbootin?
[09:43] <brtrnd> can somebody help me troubleshoot a network issue on oneiric? after ubuntu install it worked but while configuring vnc i must have broken it. now the computer doesnt have network
[09:43] <Defusal_> how can i start dbus?
[09:44] <Thermoelectric> scientes, Unetbootin didn't want to install to this hard drive, so I used the dd method instead.
[09:44] <scientes> Defusal_, try dbus-daemon --session
[09:44] <brtrnd> it's wireless,it shows enabled but cant find any networks
[09:44] <scientes> Defusal_, however i have never really understood dbus that much
[09:45] <Defusal_> sigh
[09:45] <Defusal_> this is hopeless
[09:45] <bekks> brtrnd: vnc does not touch the network configuration at all.
[09:45] <scientes> Thermoelectric, dd if=/the/iso of=/dev/sdLETTER (no number) ?
[09:45] <Defusal_> wasted an hour already
[09:45] <scientes> Thermoelectric, you wont be able to install from the same drive its booting off of with that
[09:45] <Defusal_> i may as well restart and start reconfiguring everything again
[09:45] <brtrnd> bekks thats what i supposed but after that my network connection is gone
[09:46] <Defusal_> im gonna be bankrupted by this :(
[09:46] <Thermoelectric> scientes, Yep, that. The machine boots to the installer and everything, just hangs at the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" part.
[09:46] <bekks> Thermoelectric: Do you want to install the iso to an USB stick or to an harddrive?
[09:46] <Defusal_> thanks for trying anyway scientes
[09:46] <brtrnd> iwconfig says "no wireless extension" and ifconfig doesn't say anything about an ip adress
[09:46] <Thermoelectric> scientes, I've got a separate hard drive to install it on.
[09:46] <scientes> Thermoelectric, so this is the alternate? you can skip that step
[09:46] <scientes> it just will elevate into the "expert mode"
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> Yeah, it's the alternate, didn't see the other one. What do I hit to skip it?
[09:47] <scientes> ho wait i guess you cant really skip that one
[09:47] <bekks> Thermoelectric: Are you trying to run the installer from an USB stick or from a live cd?
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> bekks, From a hard drive.
[09:47] <scientes> Thermoelectric, try it again with the mini.iso, which boots totally into ram, or use the Livecd version
[09:47] <Thermoelectric> Okay, thanks.
[09:47] <bekks> Thermoelectric: That wont work most likely. Not using the dd approach.
[09:47] <allenyk> test
[09:48] <allenyk> :test
[09:48] <scientes> Thermoelectric, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ precise amd64: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:48] <bekks> allenyk: You missed.
[09:49] <Thermoelectric> Cheers scientes
[09:50] <Defusal_> scientes, how can i test sound?
[09:52] <scientes> Defusal_, alsamixer might be a good sanity check
[09:53] <scientes> Defusal_, otherwise, well just try to use it, use a music player or something
[09:53] <Petskull> Hey- I want to make a 'shortcut' on my desktop to a codeblocks project within a deeply ordered hierarchy.  I want it to open the file from it's current location, rather than from the Desktop, because it can't find the program files otherwise.  Any ideas?
[09:53] <Foggalong> Hello
[09:53] <Defusal_> scientes, ok thanks
[09:53] <scientes> Peterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;
[09:53] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Are you here?
[09:53] <Defusal_> scientes, i dunno what you were trying to tell me about ssh -X earlier
[09:54] <Defusal_> but i use TurboVNC as it has far better performance than any other linux remote desktop client i have seen
[09:54] <scientes> Defusal_, that allows you to use graphical apps from another computer, but in a way that is differn't than VNC
[09:55] <Defusal_> TurboVNC works great, especially over Gbps LAN
[09:55] <scientes> Defusal_, and more integrated, as it is application-level, rather than whole-desktop
[09:55] <scientes> and VNC is a HORRIBLE protocol
[09:55] <Defusal_> scientes, options are limited when you want to use windows as a client
[09:55] <Defusal_> but nothing comes close to TurboVNC in performance
[09:56] <scientes> Defusal_, peopl actually use ssh -X on windows, with xming and pidgin
[09:56] <Defusal_> i have tried many different protocols over the years
[09:56]  * scientes hasn't done that
[09:56] <scientes> *xming and putty
[09:56] <Petskull> Anybody?
[09:56] <bobweaver> Petskull,  would this help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[09:56] <scientes> Petskull, i gave you an answer
[09:56] <scientes> ahh Petskull <scientes> Peterman, #!/bin/sh; cd /the/directory; xdg-open file; exit 0;
[09:56]  * Petskull scrolls up
[09:57] <Petskull> yeah, that's what I thought.  I was just wondering if there was something simpler natively- thanks, man.
[09:57] <scientes> Peterman, or gnome-open for the equivilent of double-clicking with nautilus
[09:57] <scientes> but xdg-open is more portable
[09:57] <scientes> as it will work in xfce and kde, etc
[09:58] <scientes> Peterman, well, .desktop files is the preferred way of doing it, .....
[09:58] <Petskull> thanks, bobweaver
[09:58] <scientes> cause that supports internationalization Petskull
[09:59] <Petskull> yeah, I just didn't want a whole thing that felt like hacking up da mainframe.  I was just wondering if there was something like "middle-click drag from the folder to the desktop" or something
[09:59] <bobweaver> np Petskull
[09:59] <Petskull> something to be done on the fly
[10:00] <Taek> I am a land-shark with wifi-irc in a hospital.
[10:00] <scientes> Petskull, you could scour this: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[10:00] <bobweaver> yeah Just add like them lines into /usr/share/applications/codeblock   so that it opens where you want it to
[10:01] <scientes> as it does support internationalization which is cool
[10:01] <Bhaumik> hello
[10:01] <Taek> Hola
[10:01] <Petskull> hmm
[10:01] <Bhaumik> i want to create repository server for only updates
[10:01] <Bhaumik> any 1 can help me?
[10:02] <brtrnd> how can i troubleshoot network issues? i can't connect ubuntu to my wireless (probably a wrong command while configuring vino)
[10:02] <bekks> brtrnd: vino does not change the network configuration at all.
[10:02] <bekks> brtrnd: You have to ensure that your network is working at all.
[10:03] <Taek> Bhaumik why?
[10:03] <brtrnd> the network is working, the windows i have is connected to the wireless the same way
[10:03] <bekks> brtrnd: Windows is out of interest. Does your Ubuntu box has a working network connection using wifi?
[10:03] <scientes> Petskull, gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[10:04] <Bhaumik> Taek, because we dont want to use whole netwrok access
[10:04] <scientes> Petskull, that type of "hacking up the mainframe" is pretty common
[10:04] <brtrnd> bekks i think not: the menu item shows the checked option "activate network" but does not show any wirelss network
[10:04] <Xabster> I have made a keyboard shortcut with ctrl+alt+e to open Files. When I do it opens a new un-showable window that says "Opening xabster..." in processbar and also my home directory in nautilus - it takes atleast 10 seconds for the first window to dissappear and my mouse cursor is "loading" meanwhile - it's annoying but not a problem but I'd like a fix - anyone?
[10:04] <Bhaumik> Taek, we are using Proxy server thats why..
[10:04] <Taek> Dont think that is possible
[10:04] <BlueDongleKey> is there some source code that I could check out regarding linux memory management?
[10:05] <bekks> BlueDongleKey: The kernel has it :)
[10:05] <Taek> :D
[10:06] <Taek> Not kewl to be here on android lol
[10:06] <BlueDongleKey> bekks: would kernel.org be the place to download it?
[10:06] <scientes> BlueDongleKey, git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
[10:06] <bekks> BlueDongleKey: you could just use apt-get source
[10:07] <bekks> scientes: Unhelpful to download 1.6GB git, instead of a few MB tarball.
[10:07] <Taek> Agreed, bekks.
[10:08] <scientes> ok, start with apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` BlueDongleKey
[10:08] <BlueDongleKey> thanks friends :)
[10:08] <scientes> BlueDongleKey, or the kernel.org xz tarballs
[10:09] <bekks> or the gz or bz2 tarballs.
[10:09] <scientes> yuck, go with xz
[10:09] <scientes> way fater
[10:09] <scientes> *faster
[10:10] <bekks> Faster than your git approach. :)
[10:10] <brtrnd> bekks it does work with a cable, so i probably disabled the wireless. is there some way to reset it to defaults?
[10:10] <Taek> On fast enough connections, it wont matter
[10:10] <alusion> Hello I was wondering if compiz has any complaints with the gnome 3 shell
[10:10] <bekks> brtrnd: No. Just configure what you need.
[10:10] <Bhaumik> is there any possibility to create repository using UBUNTU DVD?
[10:11] <scientes> bekks, yeah, but git has so many other benifits :P
[10:11] <Taek> Technucally the dvd is a local repo
[10:11] <Bhaumik> i already tried "apt-cdrom" command
[10:11] <bekks> scientes: Which arent important at this point.
[10:11] <scientes> bekks, the FIRST thing i almost always do with a source tree is git init; git commit -a -m init
[10:12] <paulus68> how can I let tail search for words in a logfile?
[10:12] <Bhaumik> Taek, i know that but how can i access this repository for internal use
[10:12] <bekks> scientes: Which is unhelpful and unnecessary at this point.
[10:12] <bekks> Just compare 1.6GB and ~70MB downloadsize.
[10:13] <Taek> Not surw how to access the dvd as repo
[10:14] <scientes> bekks, even 70MB is huge compared to just browsing the cgit or github ....
[10:14] <Taek> Id check for you, hut i am on my cellphone
[10:14] <Bhaumik> any one knows how to access Ubuntu DVD as a repository?
[10:14] <brtrnd> bekks should i see a network called wlan0 if i do ifconfig? (only  have eth0 and lo)
[10:14] <bekks> scientes: You have to pull 1.6GB of data for the kernel.org git repo. So your approach isnt the best thing in the world to just get the sources.
[10:15] <bekks> brtrnd: Not necessarily. USe a pastebin to provide the output of sudo ifconfig -a
[10:15] <Bhaumik> Taek, thanks
[10:15] <Taek> Brtrnd do - ifup wlan0
[10:15] <scientes> bekks, there almost should be an option to pull starting from a specific signed tag
[10:16] <bekks> Taek: No. First check, wether there is a wlan0 at all.
[10:16] <bekks> Taek: It may be named differently.
[10:16] <bekks> Or it may not exist.
[10:16]  * scientes thinks tags also sign the contents independant of the history, is not sure
[10:16] <Taek> Btw for tail in log files, tail -n 20 ¦ grep word
[10:16] <scientes> with a -f too
[10:16] <scientes> is nice
[10:16] <brtrnd> bekks http://pastebin.com/xX76NS61
[10:17] <brtrnd> (its a spanish pc)
[10:17] <bekks> Taek: Thats nonsense too, if "word" is not in the last 20 lines.
[10:17] <Taek> Just a sample hahaha
[10:18] <Taek> Bekks i am on mobile, so i try to keep responces to a short and quick one
[10:18] <Bragex9> my system has suddenly started to act strange..... software such as firefox, mediaplayer etc etc can suddenly just shut down. Then I have to restart the software again. And after a few minutes the same happens again.... any idea what might cause the problem?
[10:18] <jacekowski> hi
[10:19] <bekks> brtrnd: You dont have a wlan interface at all. You have to set it up first.
[10:19] <jacekowski> i've got a laptop with windows on it and no cd/memory stick/any other kind of storage at hand
[10:19] <brtrnd> bekks any guide/link on doing that?
[10:19] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, try running those programs from the terminal when just using them normally, and then see what the terminal out is when it crashes, alternatively you can look for logs for those specific programs
[10:19] <jacekowski> is there any way of installing ubuntu onto separate partition
[10:19] <jacekowski> (not using wubi and it's loop partition)
[10:19] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_crashes
[10:20] <Taek> Bragex9 lack of sleep can cause that. Jk
[10:20] <paulus68> with grep what is the command to show multiple words for example I want to search in a file for the word user and denied what would the syntax be?
[10:20] <DropsOfSerenity> Bragex9, check out the Crash reports section of that link
[10:20] <Bragex9> ok. thanks. I will try that
[10:20] <bekks> brtrnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[10:20] <Taek> Man grep
[10:21] <bekks> paulus68: "man grep" :) or egrep - grep "this|that" filename
[10:21] <Taek> !grep
[10:21] <aabed> where can i ask about the packages that will be released with 12.04
[10:22] <d[-_-]b> Hello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle
[10:23] <Taek> Tail -n 100 ¦ grep -v grep ¦ egrep n grep "this¦that" filename
[10:23] <Taek> Damn messed it up lol
[10:26] <paulus68> bekks: thanks
[10:26] <Hiob10hiob> hi, i have a mbp 5,5 and it gets so hot on ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[10:26] <bekks> Taek: USeless use of tail, grep and egrep ;)
[10:27] <bekks> Hiob10hiob: Whats an "mbp 5,5"?
[10:27] <Hiob10hiob> mac book pro 13" late 2009
[10:27] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, had a macbook pro 5,5 theres not much you can do, the best is get cpufreq-indicator and change your cpu to a powersaving sceme.
[10:27] <paulus68> Taek: the purpose is that I can read through the complete access.log and that I get the info about a given user with the websites that he tried to access
[10:27] <Arnold> Hello everyone. Which is the channel where I can discuss about compiling a certain package?
[10:27] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, it's just a hot machine by nature
[10:28] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, also consider external cooling.
[10:28] <Taek> If you know the ip, just search that
[10:28] <Hiob10hiob> but in mac os x its not that hot
[10:29] <Taek> Unless the access log isnt logging the ips
[10:30] <paulus68> Taek: just the websites in the file
[10:31] <Taek> I would use sed instead
[10:31] <jasonfe> hi
[10:32] <jasonfe> sorry, but how to mount crypted folder from extern hdd in ubuntu 11.10?!?folder is crypted with ecryptfs
[10:32] <jasonfe> tnx :)
[10:32] <paulus68> Taek you getting me warm to use grep and now you are going to sed :p not afraid to learn but this old chap needs a break here lol so throw it at me what would the command be when I need to have all the entries that contains user and denied
[10:33] <Taek> Just a sec then paulus68
[10:33] <paulus68> Taek: thx
[10:34] <moondiamond> Hiob10hiob: I always assumed that the machine ran hotter because the drivers/settings/whatever were not optimally set for the macbook like they would be in os x, but as people say YMMV
[10:34] <bekks> paulus68: What do you want to do?
[10:35] <Hiob10hiob> moondiamond: you must be right, i think i have to replace it ;)
[10:35] <paulus68> bekks: from the given access.log I want to get the username and the word denied in order to know what type of website this user wanted to access without my permission
[10:36] <bekks> paulus68: So why do you want sed then?
[10:36] <DropsOfSerenity> Hiob10hiob, system76.com :P
[10:36] <Taek> Paulus68: sed 's/\(hostname 10.0.1.100\)/\hostname 10.0.2.200/g' | grep hostname
[10:36] <Hiob10hiob> can i order it in germany?
[10:36] <Taek> Hostname and ip can be changef
[10:36] <bekks> paulus68: Provide a single line of your access.log and provide the wanted output you want to have
[10:36] <paulus68> bekks: Teak was proposing this to me I am trying to get used to the grep command
[10:36] <paulus68> bekks: ok hold on
[10:37] <bobweaver> Hello there does anyone know how to get JUST the ipadderss from the terminal ?
[10:37] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig and grep and awk.
[10:37] <bekks> Or just ifconfig and awk
[10:37] <Taek> Ifconfig eth0 ¦ grep ipaddress
[10:38] <bobweaver> what if user is not on eth0 ?
[10:38] <bekks> bobweaver: Then replace eth0
[10:38] <Taek> Change it according
[10:38] <bobweaver> but whta if this is a script ?
[10:38] <Taek> Then use awk
[10:38] <bobweaver> do a if statement ?
[10:38] <bekks> No if needed.
[10:39] <Taek> Are yoy doing a oerl script?
[10:39] <Taek> Perl that is
[10:39] <bobweaver> no bash
[10:40] <Taek> Something like this
[10:40] <paulus68> 1333615347.579   5436 87.65.37.191 TCP_MISS/200 2402 CONNECT ebankingsupport.ibs6.isabel.be:443 user DIRECT/195.35.111.196 -
[10:40] <paulus68> 1333615359.736      0 87.65.37.191 TCP_DENIED/407 1699 GET http://www.isabel.eu/login6/nl-BE/ - NONE/- text/html
[10:40] <Taek> $ip=ifconfig wlan0 ¦ grep ipaddress
[10:40] <Taek> Print $ip
[10:41] <bekks> Taek: Thats not bash.
[10:41] <Taek> Your right
[10:41] <paulus68> bekks: where before the DIRECT the username is mentioned
[10:41] <Taek> My bad
[10:41] <Taek> Letting php get the better of me
[10:42] <Taek> Or perl for that matter
[10:42] <bobweaver> ok so I have this zpanel@zpanel:~/ZpanelX/etc/build/config_packs/ubuntu_11_10$ ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v 127.0.0.1| head -n 1|
[10:42] <bobweaver> but how to cut to a delimiter of :
[10:42] <bekks> bobweaver: By using "tr".
[10:42] <bobweaver> sorry   ::   ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | grep -v 127.0.0.1| head -n 1|
[10:42] <slashdot> hemm
[10:42] <Taek> Remove -v
[10:43] <Taek> Nvm
[10:43] <Taek> Keep that
[10:43] <b1nr> bobweaver: probably you  should check these in #bash instead of #ubuntu
[10:43] <bobweaver> will do
[10:43] <bobweaver> thanks everyone !
[10:43] <Taek> Should i install ubuntu to my mobile.. hmm
[10:44] <Ben64> my ubuntu 10.04 system randomly started having some desktop effects (window shadows, weird effect on taskbar launcher click), how can i disable them?
[10:44] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"
[10:44] <bekks> bobweaver: ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'
[10:45] <lpe> anyone seen this before? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4645273#post4645273
[10:46] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, If I remember correctly, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> visual effects -> none
[10:46] <paulus68> bekks: me watching and learning :)
[10:46] <Ben64> DropsOfSerenity: that's already off
[10:46] <bobweaver> bekks,  ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v 127.0.0.1 |  head -n 1
[10:46] <bobweaver> :>)
[10:47] <io> !effects > Ben64
[10:47] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:47] <io> aLeSD: hi
[10:47] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, you can install compizsettingsmanager, ccsm if I remember, and check the settings there.
[10:47] <aLeSD> my system goes very laggy sometimes
[10:47] <Ben64> io, DropsOfSerenity: compiz isn't running
[10:47] <bekks> bobweaver: you dont need the head -n 1
[10:47] <aLeSD> mainly when I am using eclipse
[10:47] <io> Ben64: what version of Ubuntu?
[10:47] <bekks> bobweaver: use this: ifconfig| grep addr| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'|grep -v "^127"
[10:47] <Ben64> 10.04
[10:47] <paulus68> bekks: any sugestions concerning my little problem ;)
[10:47] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, you said you are getting compiz effects though?
[10:47] <Taek> Eclipes = java = horrid
[10:48] <io> Ben64: what environment are you using, then?
[10:48] <Ben64> some kind of effects, but not compiz
[10:48] <aLeSD> does ubuntu use officila sun jdk ?
[10:48] <Ben64> normal gnome
[10:48] <io> !java | aLeSD
[10:48] <bobweaver> bekks,  I am using as a out varible like     ipadress=$( ifconfig| awk '/inet/  {print $2}' | awk -F ":" '{print $2}'| grep -v 127.0.0.1 |  head -n 1)      so it have to be just the nip no other nothing
[10:48] <aLeSD> thanks io
[10:48] <Ben64> ok, i found the problem... somehow "compositing manager" got checked in gconf-editor
[10:48] <bekks> bobweaver: Read what I wrote to times to you.
[10:49] <Ben64> i guess metacity has a compositor
[10:49] <DropsOfSerenity> Ben64, it's probably in the startup programs, check in there
[10:49] <Taek> +Karma¦bekks
[10:49] <io> aLeSD: no problem
[10:50] <Taek> Dang hospital connection
[10:50] <aLeSD> io: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(mythology)
[10:50] <bobweaver> bekks,  lol hostname -I
[10:50] <io> aLeSD: I'm io, not Io - also offtopic for this channel
[10:50] <bobweaver> faceplam
[10:51] <Taek> +Karma¦io
[10:51] <paulus68> bobweaver: LOL
[10:52] <bekks> bobweaver: Note that this works only if the host name  can  be  resolved.
[10:52] <Arnold> Hello. In which channel I can discuss about compiling/packaging from the source code?
[10:52] <bekks> Dont rely on that, but read the man page for hostname, and see the -i option.
[10:52] <bobweaver> good point thanks bekks
[10:53] <io> Arnold: if it's related to Ubuntu, here or any of the #ubuntu-* channels, also there's ##linux
[10:53] <io> Arnold: #ubuntu-packaging for packing questions/chatter
[10:54] <io> s/packing/packaging
[10:54] <s0u][ight> hello, how do I start a second instance of unity
[10:54] <s0u][ight> ?
[10:54] <Bhaumik> i tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?
[10:54] <Arnold> Well, I downloaded the Pidgin sources using "apt-get source pidgin" and I also noticed it applied certain patches while at it.
[10:55] <Arnold> But after that, when I'm running "./configure", it runs it as if the configure.ac file was never modified/patched.
[10:55] <Bhaumik> Taek, i tried another one also its "apt-mirror" but its stucked my system any one know the reason for this?
[10:55] <io> !repeat | Bhaumik
[10:55] <Taek> It stucked your system?
[10:56] <Bhaumik> yus
[10:56] <Bhaumik> yes
[10:56] <Bhaumik> ubottu, ok
[10:56] <s0u][ight> when i do "sudo startx -- :1 vt8" i get "no protocol specified"
[10:56] <io> Arnold: I see, they have their own channel over in #pidgin - you might want to enquire there
[10:57] <Arnold> Thanks io, I've tried to apply the patch on the actual non-patched source code package of theirs and the configure file still didn't react to it. I'll ask them about it.
[10:57] <Taek> Bhaumik what to you mean by stucked?
[10:57] <io> Taek: I think the technical term he's looking for is 'frozen'
[10:58] <Bhaumik> Taek, it means that its not going forward
[10:59] <Taek> If the hdd or dvd light is flshing, have no fear, you are just over working the processor/ram
[10:59] <Bragex9> is there a way to do a memory test from terminal?
[11:00] <Taek> Well at least thats onw possibilty
[11:00] <Taek> 1*
[11:00] <paulus68> bekks: any thoughts?
[11:00] <Bhaumik> means?
[11:01] <Taek> Are lights blinking?
[11:01] <bekks> paulus68: http://austinmatzko.com/2008/04/26/sed-multi-line-search-and-replace/
[11:01] <Bhaumik> yes
[11:01] <Taek> STILL "STUCKED" ?
[11:02] <Taek> Whoops, caps
[11:02] <Taek> Cant disable caps on cellphones.. so sad
[11:02] <Bhaumik> all things working properly in system but when i started "apt-mirror" its not downloading all packages & my system will going down
[11:03] <Taek> What cmd you used?
[11:03] <Bhaumik> apt-mirror
[11:03] <Taek> Did you specify location to save?
[11:03] <Bhaumik> no
[11:04] <bekks> Bhaumik: apt-mirror --help
[11:04] <paulus68> bekks: thanks
[11:06] <Taek> About them A's
[11:06] <Taek> Jk
[11:06] <Bhaumik> ok i'll try
[11:08] <NiBi> Hi , I need help with ubuntu to ubuntu sharing , it answer with "required packages are not installed" can you help me which packages I need ?
[11:09] <Taek> I like this cmd scp /path/to/file.ext username@yourdomain.tld:/path/to/dest/folder
[11:09] <NiBi> I already install samba and samba_lib or something like that
[11:10] <Taek> Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install
[11:10] <Taek> To get left out packagrs
[11:10] <mk> hey guys
[11:10] <bekks> Taek: Please stop providing things that might break a system.
[11:11] <bekks> Left out packages always have a good reason for being left out.
[11:11] <Kaspi> mouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)
[11:13] <Taek> I was going to argue that, but not from a mobile.
[11:15] <NiBi> can someone help me with that sharing ?
[11:16] <io> NiBi: yes, Taek already answered your question - please look up
[11:17] <Bhaumik> Taek, i tried but its showing like " apt-mirror is already running, exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187."
[11:17] <NiBi> I dont trust "Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install" this command
[11:17] <Kaspi> mouse cursor not moving (altough the mouse is connected), what to do? :)
[11:17] <io> NiBi: your choice
[11:17] <Taek> Why nibi?
[11:18] <Taek> Because bekks said somthing?
[11:18] <NiBi> I set that command to terminal and it installed nothing :/
[11:19] <Taek> Then you have no missing depencies
[11:19] <Bhaumik> no
[11:19] <Taek> You provlem is else where
[11:19] <io> NiBi: what did you type?
[11:20] <NiBi> "Sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -f install"
[11:20] <Taek> Damn wifu
[11:20] <NiBi> which part of this comman is knowing about packages what i need ?
[11:21] <io> NiBi: you need to specify what package you want to install, obviously
[11:21] <Taek> -f install grabs whatever deb packagrs need
[11:22] <Taek> If smbd needs a package it will grab it
[11:22] <NiBi> personal sharing answers that i need packages to enable sharing I have installed samba and still doesnt work
[11:22] <Taek> Did you start it?
[11:23] <bekks> Before starting, did you configure it?
[11:23] <Taek> That too
[11:23] <Taek> +karma¦bekks
[11:23] <bekks> Taek: Would you mind to stop that karma foobar pleas? :)
[11:24] <Taek> You dont like karma?
[11:24] <Taek> Btw yes ill stop
[11:25] <imyousuf> Hi
[11:25] <Taek> Hi
[11:26] <imyousuf> I have added port forwarding rule to my /etc/ufw/before.rules as *nat \n :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] \n -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.54:22 \n COMMIT
[11:26] <imyousuf> I have also done ufw allow from any to any port 7689
[11:26] <imyousuf> but if I have ufw enabled then port forwarding gets timed out
[11:27] <imyousuf> whereas if I disable ufw the portforwading works just fine
[11:27] <imyousuf> what am I missing here?
[11:27] <Taek> I dont jnow ufw sorry
[11:27] <Taek> Kbow*
[11:27] <Taek> !ufw
[11:28] <notk0> hello, how can I escape folders that contain spaces for usage in the terminal?
[11:29] <mcb_1> notk0: You can use "Folder with Space"  or you can scape the space character as: Folder\ with\ space
[11:29] <notk0> mcb_1, thank you, I'll try that
[11:30] <NiBi> I opened network there is folder windows network , there I see that LINUX computer where I need to get in and it answer with "cannot mount windows network"
[11:31] <notk0> mcb_1, thank you, that worked
[11:31] <mrhi> hi
[11:31] <Taek> Nibi, sounds like you havr no netwirk shares on windows
[11:32] <mrhi> hum
[11:32] <mcb_1>  imyousuf: I dont know ufw commands syntax, but the iptables rule should look like this: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 7689 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.54:22
[11:32] <mrhi> 한국사람은 없나
[11:32] <mcb_1> notk0: You are welcome.
[11:32] <NiBi> I want to get to that linux computer shared files
[11:32] <Taek> In windows vista/7 workgroup
[11:33] <NiBi> Im sure there is shared file
[11:33] <imyousuf> mcb_1: that is there in before.rules
[11:33] <Taek> You configured samba to share a folder?
[11:33] <mrhi> exit
[11:33] <imyousuf> I need to know if before.rules the ideal place to put it?
[11:34] <NiBi> I set share folder , and sharing options to allow all ... if you mean that or how to configure samba for sharing ?
[11:34] <Kaspi> where to find the "wmwgfx" package?
[11:34] <bluebird> can i ask  a kubuntu doubt here?
[11:35] <notk0> hello again, there is a command for the x server that can disable for keys to not be repeated when a key is being held (as in when a key is pressed for key released and pressed signals to not be generated) does anyone know that command?
[11:36] <notk0> nevermind , it's xset found it in the history of my terminal commands
[11:37] <mcb_1> imyousuf:  Does ufw ruling has the same syntax as iptables? If so, you missed the -t nat part. Thats all that wanted to point to you.
[11:37] <imyousuf> that is given as *nat mcb_1
[11:38] <Kaspi> where to find the "wmwgfx" package?
[11:38] <mcb_1> imyousuf:  But ufw will use iptables. Doesn it? You can always do iptables -t nat -L and pipe it to file to see how your rules are. maybe it can point to the right direction.
[11:39] <imyousuf> hmm let me check
[11:47] <bastidrazor>  /w 3
[11:49] <Zenger> Hi guys, I have problem and I'm trying to solve it the whole day. I'm stuck in low res at 1024x768, I have  17" monitor capable of 1280x1024. I have installed the nvidia drivers , the nouveau didn't work. Here are the logs of  lspci, glxinfo, xrandr http://pastebin.com/JKcsEVtT if someone could give me a hint how could I set a higher res I would be gratefull .
[11:49] <localpc4> every once in a while my servers finger print changes and i get access denied for ssh
[11:50] <Zenger> I think it's a problem of the monitor. But I am so out of ideeas I don't even  know what to do :(
[11:50] <yeats> localpc4: are you the only administrator of that server?
[11:50] <arc_amit> Hello,Can someone please tell me...How to know the maximum RTO in ubuntu 11?
[11:50] <localpc4> yeats: yes,
[11:51] <localpc4> yeats: not sure if this has to do with the capistrano tool that I am using or its just that something is wrong with my sshd
[11:51] <yeats> localpc4: do you reinstall Ubuntu periodically?
[11:51] <localpc4> this was a new installtaion
[11:51]  * yeats is not familiar with capistrano
[11:52] <localpc4> but i cant ssh now:(
[11:52] <localpc4> i have to keep manually deleting the host from known_hosts
[11:52] <localpc4> to accept the finger print again
[11:52] <localpc4> now i get Write Failed : Broken pipe
[11:53] <geraldh> Is it possible to delay the lock screen after the screensaver starts? Does someone how I can configure that?
[11:53] <yeats> localpc4: once you get access again, you should check your server logs
[11:54] <localpc4> yeats: i have physical access to the server as well, i will see the logs now
[11:54] <yeats> localpc4: the key fingerprint doesn't "just change" - something is causing that to happen
[11:55] <localpc4> yeats: is the log in syslog?
[11:56] <yeats> localpc4: I would start there, then check auth.log and maybe daemon.log
[11:56]  * yeats has to go away
[11:56] <yeats> localpc4: good luck
[11:56] <localpc4> thanks 4 help
[11:58] <ron__> Can anyone help with Apache? it recently stopped parsing php on virtual hosts for no apparent reason..
[11:58] <iceroot> ron__: #httpd may help
[11:58] <ikonia> ron__: what does the access and error log show ?
[11:58] <InBar> hi all, is the notes sync service always available ?
[11:59] <ron__> it shows nothing.. it isnt throwing up any errors it simply decided to stop parsing php on anything other than the default host
[11:59] <fayimora> A friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?
[12:04] <ron__> ikonia: there are no errors in the error log beyond normal 405 errors etc.
[12:06] <MarKsaitis> how do I upgrade 11.04 64bit to the newest 12 LTS?
[12:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: #ubuntu+1
[12:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: and 12.04 is still beta
[12:06] <MarKsaitis> yeah, but it will not be beta in few weeks
[12:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: doesnt matter
[12:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: its beta and not supported here and things may break
[12:07] <ron__> iceroot: what do you mean by httpd. the server or the black conf file apache has?
[12:08] <ron__> blank*
[12:08] <iceroot> ron__: the irc-apache channel #httpd
[12:08] <AndyUbuntu> hey everyone
[12:08] <ron__> ok, thanks..
[12:08] <AndyUbuntu> im just wondering if updating to 12.04 will be stable yet
[12:08] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: no
[12:08] <MarKsaitis> can somebody please recommend me a nice tidy lighweight desktop environment?
[12:09] <ron__> Do so at your own peril
[12:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: lxde (lubuntu-desktop)
[12:09] <kantlivelong> AndyUbuntu: i wouldnt...
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> iceroot, ok thanks. So its worth waiting till the end of the month
[12:09] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, top one, thanx
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> excellent
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: maybe even longer
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for letting me know
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: not a good idea to upgrade on release-day
[12:09] <AndyUbuntu> ohh really, is the release date being pushed back
[12:09] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: no
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> yeah true
[12:10] <iceroot> AndyUbuntu: but the repos will die
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> yeah true, always find that
[12:10] <Guest43386> somebody could help me ?
[12:10] <AndyUbuntu> 12.04 looks pretty good soo looking foward to the release
[12:12] <Kaspi> guys, how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:12] <geraldh> I found the gconf /app/gnome-screensaver/lock_delay setting, is it possible to set that in seconds instead of minutes? I would like a delay of say 5 seconds. In that way I can have a "hot corner" that activates the screensaver, but doesn't lock the pc by accident if I hit it.
[12:13] <sent> !ask | Guest43386
[12:13] <iCoffee> sent:
[12:13] <iCoffee> i can't open grub customizer
[12:14] <aarish> hi call i need some autoamtion solution for medical and health care can you help me
[12:15] <iCoffee> when it finishes loading it closes
[12:16] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:16] <kapz> ok I am trying to share my printer connected to ubuntu with windows 7 over LAN through cups-IPP...log shows the below message, what does it mean and how can I resolve it?
[12:16] <kapz> Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Resume-Printer (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1670-Series) from localhost
[12:20] <zxiest> Hello :-)
[12:21] <zxiest> I'm running ubuntu in virtual box and everything was fine. I updated yesterday and my displays are now broken (using two monitors)
[12:21] <zxiest> The resolution that used to fit isn't there anymore
[12:21] <zxiest> What can I do?
[12:21] <ron_l> the #httpd channel wont let me chat.
[12:21] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module?
[12:21] <fidel> ron_l: invite only? voice only?
[12:22] <fidel> anyways - not related with this chan ;)
[12:22] <rogst> zxiest: reinstall the virtualbox guest tools
[12:22] <io> ron_l: register a nickname. also this is offtopic for this channel, ask in #freenode
[12:22] <ron_l> someone told me to go there erlier for help with apache, but since it's not workign even after just registering..
[12:22] <Kaspi> jesus, I hate such low level errors
[12:22] <zxiest> rogst I tried reinstalling virtualbox altogether.. Are the guest tools included?
[12:23] <rogst> zxiest: the guest tools inside the virual machine
[12:23] <zxiest> rogst alright cool, will try that :-) Thanks :-)
[12:23] <io> ron_l: you haven't completed registration verification - please ask in #freenode
[12:24] <parenta> surabaya
[12:24] <rogst> zxiest: I think you have updated the kernel and then the virtualboc guest tools need to be recompiled for the new kernel version
[12:24] <ron_l> oh i see.. my bad
[12:24] <zxiest> rogst makes sense.. Will try reinstalling and will let you know if this works out :-)
[12:25] <sent> !id | parenta
[12:25] <parenta> ok
[12:25] <fidel> parenta: or stay inhere & keep it english ;)
[12:26] <Kaspi> how can I install the vmwgfx module? is there any repository containing it?
[12:26] <roasted> Question - am I correct by understanding that a kernel regression is where changes are made that break supported devices and/or trimming of kernel fat that may end up being needed?
[12:27] <wonderman> Hi, can someone tell me how to manually set my DNS servers in ubuntu
[12:27] <wonderman> so that a DNS leak will not reveal ym local DNS
[12:27] <fidel> wonderman: /etc/resolv.conf
[12:28] <wonderman> ok, thats a local DNS, i just remove that and add another DNS provider?
[12:28] <rogst> Kaspi: you can install apt-file, and then run apt-file search vmwgfx to find packages that contains a file named that
[12:28] <parenta> dimana ubottu?
[12:28] <fidel> file can contains > 1 bnameserver entries
[12:29] <fidel> parenta: ubottu is a bot
[12:30] <rogst> roasted: yes, that is a correct description of a regression bug
[12:31] <roasted> rogst: I see. I was doing some reading about Alps touchpads, evidently a lot of them were broken in 11.04 and 11.10 when they worked relatively well in 10.10. Some people were explaining it as a kernel regression and I kind of drew a blank.
[12:31] <MarKsaitis> what vpn daemon package can you recommend to me? something with encryption and sessions. iceroot
[12:31] <MarKsaitis> an interesting one *** lubuntu-desktop : Depends: gecko-mediaplayer but it is not installable
[12:32] <roasted> rogst: I wouldn't expect something like that to get "regressed" and even for the 2nd release (11.10) it still be unfixed. Looks like 12.04 is more promising (as well as a .deb for 11.04 and 11.10)
[12:32] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: openvpn
[12:32] <iceroot> !vpn | MarKsaitis
[12:32] <MarKsaitis> I know what openvpn is and am already using it on 5 production servers
[12:32] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: for the lubuntu-problem. what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:32] <iceroot> !paste | MarKsaitis
[12:32] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, in my question I ment vnc, sorry I misspeled it
[12:33] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: i am not using vnc so i dont know
[12:33] <iceroot> !vnc | MarKsaitis
[12:34] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/915944/
[12:35] <StepNjump> How well does gnome2 work in Oneiric?
[12:35] <fidel> StepNjump: is it any helpful if i answer 'well' now? ;)
[12:36] <pluz> Hi peoples
[12:37] <StepNjump> _fidel... lol sarcastic?
[12:37] <MarKsaitis> I thought I have a stable 11.04 all upgraded etc. But that lubuntu-desktop thing just doesn't install for me
[12:37] <StepNjump> fidel: well in well or well in .. well, ...?
[12:37] <io> MarKsaitis: more details
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> io,
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z
[12:38] <bekks> MarKsaitis: The complete output of "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" please.
[12:38] <fidel> StepNjump: i doubt the core question is detailed enough - so its interesting my answer wasnt detailed enough for you either ;) I am using gnome2 here in a vm on 11.10 - and havent realized any issues so far
[12:38] <MarKsaitis> here it is http://pastebin.com/Nhpce80Z :)
[12:39] <fidel> but asking for "best" or "how well" usualy isnt that helpful in general ...just my impression
[12:39] <bekks> MarKsaitis: and the output of "sudo apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer" in a pastebin :)
[12:39] <StepNjump> fidel: well, I heard 11.10 deoesn't ship with Gnome but with Unity, so I guess one has to do a few fiddlings in order to get it to work?
[12:39] <io> MarKsaitis: '$ apt-get -f install'?
[12:39] <bekks> io: No.
[12:40] <StepNjump> I am reluctant to upgrade cuz I can't stand Unity fidel
[12:40] <fidel> StepNjump: you might need to install additional packages yes
[12:40] <io> bekks: if I was speaking to you, your nickname would be at the start of the sentance
[12:40] <fidel> ie. gnome-shell for gnome3
[12:40] <pluz> someone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?
[12:40] <fidel> or gnome-panel iirc for the old one
[12:40] <MarKsaitis> bekks, http://pastebin.com/h2mMtT91
[12:40] <fidel> but both is pretty good documented in the web/blogs/etc
[12:41] <bekks> io: If you dont like people to correct obvious error, please just say so.
[12:41] <fidel> StepNjump: there is really no reason to not update the core-distri you are using only cause you dislike the default-window-environment
[12:41] <dv_> hello
[12:41] <dv_> i am interested in how a package was built
[12:41] <rogst> StepNjump: have you tired Unity without the global appmenu-bar and without the overlay scrollbars, after those two components are uninstalled I find Unity realy nice
[12:41] <dv_> especially the ./configure line that was used
[12:41] <dv_> is it documented somewhere?
[12:42] <StepNjump> fidel, ok... I'm not a power user yet but ok, if it's feasible.. Thanks!
[12:42] <sanjeev_sh> how can i install a newer version of already installed package?
[12:42] <io> sanjeev_sh: upgrade if it's in the repositories
[12:42] <StepNjump> rogst: would you have detailed instructions on how to do this please?
[12:42] <StepNjump> thanks fidel
[12:42] <fidel> sanjeev_sh: you should start first by checking what versions your apt sources provide/offer
[12:43] <fidel> sanjeev_sh: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME might be helpful here
[12:43] <io> sanjeev_sh: what package and what version of Ubuntu?
[12:43] <sanjeev_sh> io: ubuntu 11.04 and i want to install gcc4.7
[12:43] <zxiest> rogst reinstalling guest extensions worked out pretty well! Thank you very much :-)
[12:44] <MarKsaitis> bekks, any ideas? As it makes no sense to me. The system is fully updated and upgraded
[12:44] <pluz> Hi people (again)..   someone used Moonlight to watch Netflix?
[12:44] <Kaspi> my mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?
[12:44] <rogst> zxiest: your welcome
[12:44] <zxiest> rogst :-)
[12:45] <zxiest> Have a wonderful day guys .. Later :-)
[12:45] <sipior> pluz: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/faq.aspx (sorry.)
[12:45] <MarKsaitis> :)
[12:45] <luc4> Hi! Anyone experiencing crash of various applications recently?
[12:46] <fidel> luc4: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[12:46] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Then fire up "sudo apt-get update" please and provide the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin
[12:46] <rogst> StepNjump: to remove the global menu sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu
[12:47] <io> sanjeev_sh: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69135/is-there-a-ppa-for-gcc4-7
[12:47] <StepNjump> Another stupid question: Why is it when I try to install thunderbird on Natty, it installs version 3 instead of version 11? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/install-thunderbird-11-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[12:47] <MarKsaitis> bekks, will do, thank you
[12:47] <StepNjump> oh very good rogst thank you very much. I will take a note of that for when I install oneiric
[12:47] <luc4> fidel: no need to ask with details, this is something you notice. Many applications are segfaulting. Qt Creator, Firefox etc... many times during the day. Since yesterday I think.
[12:47] <rogst> StepNjump: to remove overlay scrollbars sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0
[12:47] <StepNjump> thanks fer your help rogst
[12:48] <luc4> fidel: and I'm not the only one with this problem.
[12:48]  * sanjeev_sh clicks on io's link
[12:48] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/XRxjij2Y bekks
[12:49] <fidel> luc4: it still helps to throw in a more detailed question - which results in not-guessing what in detail you are thinking about ;)
[12:49] <io> StepNjump: because the repositories for natty contain version 3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/thunderbird
[12:49] <fidel> no offense ;)
[12:49] <io> stephane_yaal: 11 is present in oneiric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/thunderbird
[12:49] <io> StepNjump: ^
[12:50] <mkfsu235> Hi, I have a virtual server with oneiric running. So i default posfix install as internet site gets me a nice open relay. tried blocking 25 with ufw but i can still telnet in via anywhere.
[12:50] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Could you pastebin "sudo apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer" too?
[12:50] <bekks> mkfsu235: Then stop the postfix service
[12:50] <bekks> mkfsu235: And configure it :)
[12:50] <StepNjump> io: ok thanks so the only other way to install Thunderbird 11 under Natty is by installing it from the tar.gz archive?
[12:51] <mkfsu235> why can't i just block the port ?
[12:51] <MarKsaitis> bekks,
[12:51] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/kbebBHdv
[12:51] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Thats not much :)
[12:51] <io> StepNjump: or use the ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable !ppa
[12:51] <luc4> fidel: no offense at all. The problem is that I don't have more details. I tried to strace an application but I don't see anything useful. Applications are simply segfaulting randomly. I experienced this mostly with Firefox and Qt Creator because those are the applications I use the most. Also the Qt Creator installer couldn't finish the installation at all. I tried to downgrade mesa-related libs but that didn't solve.
[12:51] <io> !ppa | StepNjump
[12:52] <MarKsaitis> bekks, anything else I can post?
[12:52] <StepNjump> oh thanks io.. learned something new!
[12:52] <StepNjump> I'll give it a shot
[12:52] <io> StepNjump: good luck
[12:53] <StepNjump> Ill let u knw io
[12:53] <Kaspi> my mouse cursor doesn't move... what could I do?
[12:54] <Xabster> plug it in
[12:54] <Dr_willis> Kaspi,  try it at the console perhaps. install 'gpm' and see if it moves around there..
[12:54] <rogst> Kaspi: did it move before?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> unplug/plug it back in would be a good thing to try also.
[12:54] <Kaspi> Dr_willis: what's gpm?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> !info gpm
[12:54] <Kaspi> rogst: it did...
[12:55] <Dr_willis> gpm = gives mouse at the console.
[12:55] <Kaspi> rogst: it actually still does, in another system
[12:56] <rogst> Kaspi: you could try "sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse"
[12:57] <Kaspi> rogst: well, no success :/
[12:58] <Dr_willis> this is a ps2 mouse?
[12:58] <MarKsaitis> can anyone please help me to install lxde? This is what I get http://pastebin.com/dpfbLsNG
[12:58] <Kaspi> I just installed lubuntu and it just doesn't work, this has never happened to me :/
[12:58] <CFHowlett> Kaspi   "doesn't work" means???
[12:58] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: looks like your repos are messed up
[12:59] <Kaspi> CFHowlett: it doesn't move
[12:59] <Kaspi> (the cursor)
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Kaspi, it did work on the live cd/installer?
[12:59] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, how can it be? It's a fresh distro. How can I default my repos?
[12:59] <Kaspi> Dr_willis: I installed it using console, so I don't know (net install)
[12:59] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it won't change if you "default" your repos, it looks like you've got package conflicts
[12:59] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: do "sudo apt-get update" first, then re-try it
[12:59] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: output of apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer
[12:59] <MarKsaitis> ok
[13:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it won't work - but it's worth checking
[13:00] <Kaspi> the mouse buttons seem to work though... just the pointer doesn't move
[13:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I suspect your virtual provider has made a bastardised Ubuntu build as is often the case and is pointing at the wrong repos
[13:01] <localpc4> i cant even ssh into my localhost, getting permission denied! wired!
[13:01] <neurotech> Does anyone know if it's possible to use a different terminal than Powershell/Command Prompt in Windows?
[13:01] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, iceroot http://pastebin.com/38tJrQ6G
[13:01] <iceroot> neurotech: ##windows
[13:01] <neurotech> thanks
[13:01] <MarKsaitis> and how can we fix that ikonia
[13:02] <iceroot> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[13:02] <localpc4> neurotech: http://win-bash.sourceforge.net/
[13:02] <ikonia> iceroot: natty....lubuntu didn't exist then
[13:02] <iceroot> ikonia: ah yes
[13:02] <ikonia> iceroot: just clicked
[13:02] <ikonia> although why is "lubuntu-desktop" there
[13:02] <iceroot> ikonia: it was the first unofficial release imo
[13:03] <iceroot> ikonia: like in 11.10 is wayland :)
[13:03] <iceroot> !info gecko-mediaplayer natty
[13:03] <ikonia> !info lubuntu-desktop natty
[13:03] <Kaspi> omg
[13:03] <iceroot> ikonia: the player exist in 11.04
[13:03] <MarKsaitis> so in 11.04, I have unoficial release of lubuntu? I thought 11.04 is all stable as everybody said?
[13:03] <ikonia> iceroot: yup
[13:04] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: no, that's not what we are saying
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: i dont get why apt-get policy does not show it in his release
[13:04] <vikasp> hi
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: ah
[13:04] <iceroot> ikonia: multiverse
[13:04] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo
[13:04] <Kaspi> I found out :D well this should be added to the "Mouse pointer not moving" troubleshooting article on the wiki
[13:04] <ikonia> yes, just seen it
[13:04] <iceroot> !multiverse | MarKsaitis
[13:05] <MarKsaitis> thank you iceroot, your a star. Why does this stuff not work with default repos?
[13:05] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: enable the multiverse repo, run apt-get update and then you can install lubuntu-desktop
[13:06] <bpb_grinda> what is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log
[13:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: because lubuntu was not official released for your release
[13:06] <CFHowlett> MarKsaitis   your default distro sets the default repos ...
[13:06] <MarKsaitis> Im trying to find out now how to enable it :)
[13:06] <vikasp> :)
[13:06] <bpb_grinda> what is creating the xconsole.log in /var/log ?
[13:06] <vikasp> :0
[13:06] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put the word multiverse in the line were already main is
[13:06] <nirjhor> how can I rename a directory from "thumbnail" to "thumbs" recursively?
[13:06] <ready> test amsg
[13:06] <nirjhor> "find -name "*thumbnail*" -exec rename s/thumbnail/thumbs/ {} \;" this works on local but not on server
[13:06] <aarish> hi i have problem in my apache server in ubuntu
[13:06] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, what do you mean it was? Is 11.04 frozen in time? Are we not talking about today here? :)
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: every release will be frozen
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only security updates
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: and lxde was at that time when 11.04 was released not an offical ubuntu derivat
[13:07] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: but you are just missing the multiverse repo
[13:08] <MarKsaitis> so if an LTS release is rolling for 5 years, at which stage is it frozen with it's apps?
[13:08] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: before it's released
[13:08] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it's not a rolling release
[13:08] <zykotick9> MarKsaitis: ubuntu is not rolling...
[13:08] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: 1-2 month before release
[13:08] <MarKsaitis> how bizzaire :)))
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: called feature freeze
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: feature freeze for 12.04 was in february
[13:09] <MarKsaitis> and that means that you don't get any new software for the next 5 years......
[13:09] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you will just get securitys-fixes and bug fixes no new software (there are some exceptions were you will get newer versions)
[13:10] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: correct
[13:10] <iceroot> !backports | MarKsaitis
[13:10] <Daekdroom> MarKsaitis, there are some situations in which people do not want new software.
[13:10] <MarKsaitis> multiverse in sources.list, do I add this word for each of the three lfirst lines?
[13:10] <Daekdroom> If you do, then you upgrade to a newer Ubuntu release
[13:10] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: only one line
[13:11] <MarKsaitis> so only in naty, but not natty-updates and natty-security?
[13:11] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: correct
[13:11] <MarKsaitis> but I might want the updates as well? why not?
[13:11] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: which updates?
[13:11] <iceroot> mmajor updates? or security updates?
[13:12] <MarKsaitis> updates for the multiverse?
[13:12] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: you will get them
[13:12] <MarKsaitis> oh, ok :)
[13:13] <MarKsaitis> thank you, lubuntu-desktop wants 1028 MB. Is that lightweight enough then? :)
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: yes
[13:13] <MarKsaitis> and, is lubuntu-desktop much different on 11.04 and 12.04 ?
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: there is also lubuntu-core but i am facing evil bugs with it at the moment so i cant say its a good idea to use lubuntu-core
[13:13] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: no
[13:14] <christian__> why is my ubuntu so slow
[13:14] <christian__> firefox is lagging so much
[13:14] <christian__> :(
[13:14] <MarKsaitis> firefox is crap :) I like chrome
[13:15] <christian__> i dont trust google
[13:15] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, how come there is not? I mean they are 2 years of development in difference, no?
[13:15] <christian__> i am scared it will sell my soul to the devil :(
[13:15] <localpc4> have to agree on that, FF seems to be losing the edge - So I use chromium
[13:15] <MarKsaitis> I dont trust google either :)
[13:15] <Elchzard> christian__: tried xubuntu or lubuntu?
[13:15] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: lxde is not designed to offer the latest fancy stuff
[13:15] <christian__> no elchzard only for my netbook
[13:16] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: just a solid desktop
[13:16] <christian__> but i dont use it much
[13:16] <christian__> its crap :>
[13:16] <christian__> i regret the day i got that netbook
[13:16] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, so lxde on 11.04 is an old version, but all bugs are fixed for it up2date?
[13:16] <christian__> ^^rather buy a real notebook for the money next time
[13:16] <christian__> i also have to say. firefox seems to be a bit more buggy in the past
[13:17] <christian__> sometimes FF just don't respond to my input for about a min. after i open for example youtube..
[13:18] <MarKsaitis> iceroot, I understand how to do port forwarding over ssh, now what sshd can u recommend to me please so it just install's and runs in the system and serves user sessions?
[13:18] <MarKsaitis> for LXDE ofcourse, or however it all works technically
[13:19] <ikonia> what ssh ???
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> and thank you all for your support, all going good so far
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> I ment vnc lol
[13:19] <MarKsaitis> sorry
[13:20] <christian__> btw does anybody know some programming games, where you have to program a small ai for a robot or something like that ? i once played such a game, it was fun
[13:23] <tale> christian__:  apt-cache show robocode realtimebattle
[13:23] <christian__> thx tale
[13:23] <doherty> Is there a way to force ssh to /not/ use the ControlMaster socket for a new ssh session?
[13:24] <bpb_grinda> how do I stop syslog ?
[13:25] <bpb_grinda> how do I stop syslog ?
[13:25] <sacarlson> doherty: you can change the listen port on the server side if desired
[13:26] <doherty> sacarlson: that is /a/ solution... O.o
[13:26]  * doherty tries ssh -F /dev/null host
[13:26] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  perhaps 'sudo service servicename stop'
[13:26] <Slasher`> anyone know how i can tell apt to ignore a broken package please? the package isn't broken, it's required for my printer to work, but apt is moaning about it
[13:27] <MarKsaitis> so, can somebody recommend me a good session based vnc daemon for my lxde?
[13:27] <bpb_grinda> Dr_willis i want to make sure it doesnt start after reboot ?
[13:27] <tale> MarKsaitis: Put that package on Hold.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  ive seen guides on setting up vnc  at boot via xinetd or inetd. not sure what you are looking for .
[13:28] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  if its started by a upstart service - rename its .conf file in /etc/init/
[13:28] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  not sure what service manager gui tools are out there at this time for upstart
[13:28] <tale> Sorry Slasher` Put that package on Hold.
[13:28] <Dr_willis> IF its managed by upstart
[13:28] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, tale - I only want a simple vnc daemon which can serve desktop interface sessions with my newly installed lxde environment
[13:29] <bpb_grinda> Dr_willis is this going to work: rc-update del syslog-ng
[13:29] <Slasher`> tale - in synaptic?
[13:29] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you can set vnc to have hidden desktops. or you can use x11vnc to share the currently running desktop
[13:29] <Dr_willis> bpb_grinda,  no idea.  i am not sure if the rc-update stuff works for upstart managed services
[13:30] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, what is a hidden desktop? I dont want to hide anything. i don't want currently running desktop, I wan virtual desktops for each user
[13:30] <sanjeev_sh> how can i upgrade to the latest release of ubuntu from a local mirror server?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  at one time i had vnc setup where i could vnc in and it would spawn a new vnc session each time, giving me the gdm login screen.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you have hidden, or currentlyt running.. if its not visiable on the local monitor- then its hidden.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  so basically you want several users to have their own independant desktop they access via vnc.
[13:31] <Guest21751> I would like to update Thunderbird to 11.0.3 in Ubuntu 10.10 as security updates stop on the 24th April. The new Thunderbird is not available from Ubuntu Software Centre. I downloaded Thunderbird but have a folder of files and have no real idea how to proceed. Does anybody know if there are guides for this? If I run the new Thunderbird script it starts the new version and seems to work with...
[13:31] <Guest21751> ...my old folders will this suffice?
[13:31] <MarKsaitis> I don't want any visible stuff. Only virtual as per user. So, one virtual screen for user root and different for user admin, so they can use them at the same time
[13:31] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the users could ssh in, run vncserver, then connect to their vnc desktop - that would give them a persistant desktop. which is handy
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, yes, independent
[13:32] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, local? do you mean you have the cache files stored somewhere?
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, I want a persistent desktop for each user, but I want this daemon to always run and provide it for them
[13:32] <Dr_willis> vncserver on linux defaults to the way you are mentioning MarKsaitis  - its  all about the fine points of how you want it to be used.
[13:33] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis,  which vnc server is that?
[13:33] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the demon route last i looked will NOT give them a persistant desktop. vnc will get killed when they exit. sshing in will be persistant. as would starting one by hand for each user from rc.local (but thats a bit of a pain)
[13:33] <sanjeev_sh> hylian: our university has a private mirror of ubuntu, so i want to upgrade to latest ubuntu version from that mirror
[13:33] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  any vncserver should work that way. but not x11vnc or other 'share current desktop vnc'  types.
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, ok, I dont care about persistency yet then
[13:34] <hylian> Guest21751, if you managed to keep your old folders from the /home/user/ directory, and then put them back, you should still have things like your contacts and old emails. you can also use your current thunderibird to export everything, and then after upgrade, use thunderbird to import everything... am i getting close to what you are looking for?
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> I wan't just the normal thing then
[13:34] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site may have some up to date guides on setting this up. last i did it was several years back
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> as soon as it works with lxde
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> ok
[13:34] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the guides i saw ages ago gave the users a login screen via gdm. so it worked with whatever you had installed.
[13:35] <Dr_willis> they used xinetd which is a bit outdated these days
[13:35] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  is this on a local lan only? over internet? what are the users machines running?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> 'its all about the details' :)
[13:36] <MarKsaitis> users running windows, thats oer ssh port fowards
[13:36] <xr1rr> wondered if anyone wanted to fill in a phishing questionnaire for my research project
[13:36] <Slasher`> xr1rr; i'll do it
[13:36] <LjL> xr1rr: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is not the place
[13:37] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  you may want to check into 'freenx' also - its supposed to be faster then vnc. but i havent really used it. - I tend to use xming, and X forwarding these days instead of vnc.
[13:37] <MarKsaitis> i use freenx and xming for other servers. Want vnc for this one
[13:38] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, if you can get to software sources, you can specify a server there. as long as your universities server is listed there, you could use it.
[13:38] <xr1rr> Slasher: https://bit.ly/HlOE1T
[13:38] <Slasher`> can you pm me the proper link?
[13:39] <hylian> sanjeev_sh, you should be able to gain access to the software sources through the ubuntu software center, or if it is installed, synaptic.
[13:40] <sanjeev_sh> hylian: it is not an official mirror server of ubuntu yet, can i add a custom server there?
[13:41] <Guest21751> hylian: Half way there I think. The problem I am having is that I am not sure where to place the new Thunderbird files. I have a single folder on my desktop currently which I extracted after having downloaded from Mozilla. I notice that the Thunderbird files are scattered on the system in their appropriate places. I have no idea if I need to try and replace each file individually with its...
[13:41] <Guest21751> ...new counterpart or if I can simply place the new Thunderbird folder in /etc or something similar. I did execute a Thunderbird script from the folder sitting on my desktop which loaded the new version and also loads my email from the original location. Would it be silly of me to place the new Thunderbird folder arbitrarily and then just replace my shortcuts? Sorry if that makes no sense.
[13:42] <ikonia> Guest21751: strongly advise you not to use thunderbird unless it is installed from the official ubuntu software repos
[13:42] <ikonia> Guest21751: or you fully understand the risks of what you are doing and how to manage it
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> how do I list services? and how do I start vino service?
[13:44] <Guest21751> That is the problem. I still have not had the time to learn about Ubuntu and Linux in general so I am a bit in the dark :(
[13:44] <Guest21751> I was just concerned that come 24th April when Thunderbird is no longer supported I be more at risk.
[13:45] <Dr_willis> Guest21751,  for a user. you could keep your own thunderbird binary in its own dir in your home. that would be just for that user.
[13:45] <io> MarKsaitis: '$ sudo service <service_name> start'. look in /etc/init.d
[13:45] <ikonia> Guest21751: why are you not using thunderbird provided by ubuntu ?
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> I did apt-get install vino, but I dont think the service is running. i cant find it in etc init d either
[13:46] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  vino will only share the currently running visible desktop as far as i know.
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> really
[13:46] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its a specialized embded vnc server i guess you can say
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> im deleting it then
[13:47] <Dr_willis> x11vnc is also specilized.
[13:47] <Guest21751> ikonia: I am currently using the one provided through software centre. But support stops soon so I wanted to update. Is it possible to get a Thunderbird 11 package for Ubuntu 10.10?
[13:47] <Dr_willis> plus vino may be gnome only. (i rarely use it)
[13:47] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: you can list what is presently listening on your system network with sudo netstat -pant ;
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> sacarlson, I already did, no 5900
[13:48] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: ok you want to start vino server from the command line?  remind you that the users session must be open to run the server
[13:48] <Guest21751> Dr_willie: Thanks, I may see if I can do something similar if I can't find something pre packaged
[13:49] <MarKsaitis> sacarlson, no. i want a normal latest stable ssh server running and providing virtual desktops for any user on the system
[13:49] <MarKsaitis> what sort of vnc do I want to install
[13:49] <Guest21751> At this point I feel sad that I spent so much time using windows when I could have been learning all about Linux :/
[13:50] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: you can start vino vnc from a remote ssh session
[13:50] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: so you don't already have an ssh server running?
[13:50] <MarKsaitis> i am repeating again, i want a daemon which already listens.
[13:50] <MarKsaitis> i have ssh, I want vnc
[13:51] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  install a standard 'vncserver' then. like xtightvnc or vnc4server
[13:51] <MarKsaitis> are there any other on the top?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> !info tightvncserver
[13:52] <MarKsaitis> apt-get install xtightvnc - not found
[13:52] <Dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[13:52] <MarKsaitis> found it
[13:52] <Dr_willis> There may be other vncservers - those are the 2 ive used over the years.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot
[13:54] <MarKsaitis> what is the service name for thightvncserver?
[13:54] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its NOT a normal 'service' by default.. none of them are as far as i know
[13:54] <Dr_willis> see the url i posted on how to make it a service.
[13:54] <MarKsaitis> I used to install some vnc servers on centos I think, they used to just work with service etc
[13:54] <Dr_willis> this is where freenx differs from vnc i belive.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  they set them up special then.
[13:55] <StepNjump> Anybody has problems with compiz crashing?\
[13:55] <Dr_willis> normal ussage would be for the user to ssh in, run vncserver, then connect with a vnc client.
[13:55] <Guest21751> Thank you for your advice everyone. I think I will track down someone locally who can do this!
[13:55] <bharath> can anyone tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop
[13:55] <MarKsaitis> what a pain
[13:56] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  the askubuntu.com site mentioned how centos/rhel has that feature.
[13:56] <Dr_willis> and may have some silimer solutions
[13:56] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: this is the method I found to enable vino remote enabled from ssh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[13:57] <MarKsaitis> thanx, vino is crap as smbd said it only does the real desktop. I want virtual hidden ones
[13:57] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  old guide on doing it with xinetd - used it years ago -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[13:57] <MarKsaitis> thanx
[13:57] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  as far as i know vino only does the local/visuble/current desktop. its had other issues so i never use vino
[13:57] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: oh ya that's a different setup all together
[13:58] <bharath> Dr_willis:can you please tell me how to draw polygon on the desktop?
[13:58] <Dr_willis> bharath,  thats vague.. go learn pyton.. make an app.. make it draw a polygon...
[13:59] <Dr_willis> or use a app to set the wallpaper to show a polygon. :)
[13:59] <bharath> Dr_willis: not on the window
[14:00] <magicJ> I have a system that correctly connects to my modem/router by ethernet as long as the router is already up.  If however the router is reset we do not automatically re-connect how do I fix this
[14:00] <graingert> anybody using empathy here? for IRC
[14:00] <graingert> there is a user I can't tab complete to
[14:01] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: maybe this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1832456
[14:02] <Dr_willis> ive seen dozens of guides on setting up vnc at boot time. its all a matter of the details. :)  but most i read are now 3+ yrs old at least. that one url i showed earlier seemed neweest
[14:02] <Dr_willis> http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot seems decently recent
[14:02] <Dr_willis> and its 3 yrs old.
[14:03] <arafangion> graingert: I'm here.
[14:03] <graingert> arafangion: I can tab complete you here
[14:03] <graingert> whatafaurh?
[14:03] <StepNjump> Where is thunderbird supposed to be installed please? in the ~/.thunderbird or should just config files should be in there?
[14:04] <sacarlson> magicJ: maybe can't fix but make if fix faster by changing the time that dhcpd lisence expires  in a shorter window of time
[14:04] <graingert> StepNjump: just config files
[14:04] <jrib> StepNjump: use the repositories
[14:04] <arafangion> graingert: A difference, perhaps, is that here, I joined after you, but in bitcoin, you joined after me.
[14:04] <jrib> !software | StepNjump
[14:04] <magicJ> sacarlson: Sounds interesting, please explain more
[14:04] <myhero> hii all
[14:05] <graingert> arafangion: nope
[14:05] <Lokireloaded> G'day.
[14:05] <myhero> how to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd in ubuntu
[14:05] <bekks> Insert it. Wait. Pull it out again.
[14:05] <sacarlson> magicJ: you should be able to login to the modem and change the license time to expire,  all adsl are different so I can't give much detail
[14:06] <myhero> banshee is not opening it....n there is no program associated with it to open it.....movie player is saying permission denied.....how to run movie player with root priviledges to run cd/dvd drive cleaning dvd
[14:06] <sacarlson> magicJ: like 900 secounds
[14:07] <magicJ> sacarlson: I am missing how this will hep - the router is re-booted so any existing lease would be gone anyway - so please explain what I  am missing
[14:07] <yandex237891> myhero: You shouldn't need to use root priviledges
[14:07] <sacarlson> magicJ: yes but you system won't try to update until it expires
[14:07] <bekks> myhero: a cleaning dvd does not contain cool music.
[14:07] <myhero> but movie player is saying needs priviledges n permission denied
[14:07] <satyanash> bekks,
[14:07] <bobweaver> Hello there does anyone know of the name of the program that is running when installing ubuntuserver. Like the pick you language keyboard ect.
[14:07] <Dr_willis> myhero,  you mean one of those disks with a brush?
[14:07] <satyanash> bekks, lol
[14:07] <myhero> yea but it has many tracks to be played at certain pattern n time
[14:08] <sacarlson> magicJ: or is this wifi?
[14:08] <bobweaver> the purple background with questions ^^
[14:08] <bekks> It contains a little eraser to clean the lense - thats all.
[14:08] <magicJ> sacarlson: so you are suggesting that the lease time that is there when it starts is passed to the linux machine and it will renew at that time, correct?
[14:08] <bekks> myhero: Thats nonsense. Playing audio technically CANT clean anything in that device.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> myhero,  never seen one of those... as far as i know you just pop it in and it spins up and cleans...
[14:08] <bekks> Not even the inner side of the cables.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> then you remove it..
[14:08] <myhero> yea...all the cleaning dvd's contain few traks to be played at certain intervals.
[14:08] <yandex237891> bekks: Actually, they usually jump between audio tracks to move the laser onto the fixed position of the brushes
[14:08] <sacarlson> magicj: yes when it's time has expired it will try and get a new a new lease expire from the dhcpd
[14:09] <myhero> yes now you are rght
[14:09] <Dr_willis> all the cleaning disks ive ver seen are bacially gimics that rarely seem to clean anything.
[14:09] <sacarlson> magicJ: and remind you this is only a guess
[14:09] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: How is a gimic to use microbrushes to wipe clean the laser? I've had them fix CD drives in the past. Basically you're full of shit.
[14:09] <magicJ> sacarlson: I did not realize that the lease time was passed to the client.  I assumed that the lease just expired on  the router
[14:09] <myhero> i hve moser baer n phillips so must b of standard quality rest cant say
[14:10] <Dr_willis> yandex237891,  i recall articals ages past saying they did more damage then good.
[14:10] <magicJ> sacarlson: its not a bad idea to try - I like the idea -  worth a try
[14:10] <Dr_willis> yandex237891,  a can of compressed air is what was recommended back then.
[14:10] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: I read an article stating that compressed air could disrupt the mechanical motor
[14:10] <Dr_willis> but this is a better topic for #hardware
[14:10] <sacarlson> magicJ: well I watch the trafic and see that the client is the one that need to try to get a lease before any are given,  I don't see the dhcpd send any thing to the client telling him it expired
[14:11] <myhero> in windows it gives instructions to play tracks one after other so as to clean at diff positions...
[14:11] <blotek> Vodka is the best one for CD cleaning :D
[14:11] <yandex237891> myhero: Run it in Windows then
[14:11] <Dr_willis> blotek,  just dont use WD-40
[14:12] <myhero> u joking....or u serious....vodka...wtf
[14:12] <blotek> isopropylen/vodka
[14:12] <blotek> im serious
[14:12] <myhero> i dont hve windows.....m running ubuntu live
[14:12] <Dr_willis> blotek,  not cleaning the cd's - cleaning the drive...
[14:12] <blotek> ye i mean drive;p
[14:12] <yandex237891> myhero: Windows can easily be obtained from sites such as the Pirate Bay
[14:12] <myhero> thats isoporol alcohol
[14:13] <myhero> yea but i dont hve hdd...coz my hdd is out for windows recovery
[14:13] <StepNjump> graingert: and jrib I am trying to install from a compressed file for xyz reasons... Where should I install it? /opt?
[14:13] <blotek> isopropyl alcohol actually ;p
[14:13] <graingert> StepNjump: why?
[14:13] <graingert> StepNjump: why not use the PPA
[14:14] <blotek> but vodka is better because of 2 things = 1st it's avaible in every shop next to u 2nd u can drink rest of it since u need just a little bit;p
[14:15] <Dr_willis> 'honest mom - its for my pc!'
[14:15] <myhero> yea i meant that only
[14:15] <graingert> StepNjump: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-next
[14:15] <arafangion> Why does this channel have three 'floodbots'?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  in case one needs to call for backup. :)
[14:16] <Dr_willis> or netsplits
[14:16] <yandex237891> I wish new versions of software was easier in Ubuntu, instead of ppa's everywhere. We need to catch up with Mac/Windows
[14:16] <arafangion> Didn't consider netsplits, but aren't they usually short?
[14:16] <arafangion> Although they're increasonly frequent. :(
[14:16] <graingert> yandex237891: no, Mac and Windows are catching up on us
[14:16] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  depends.  - i dont find them that frequent.. but ive irc'd for years.. used to be way more common.
[14:17] <graingert> they are both turning to App Repos
[14:17] <graingert> yandex237891: App Repos are a safer way to install and upgrade applications
[14:17] <sacarlson> magicJ: I guess I should have added you can get a renewed license before your dhcpd time expires with the command  sudo dhclient eth0 ;
[14:17] <arafangion> Dr_willis: They seemed to be smaller then.
[14:17] <Dr_willis> graingert,  yep. :) pointed that out to some wundows users at work the other day.
[14:17] <arafangion> Dr_willis: Must just be my memory.
[14:17] <Dr_willis> arafangion,  back when 100 people in a channel was huge.. not 3000+
[14:17] <graingert> ubuntu does need sandboxing though
[14:18] <skurcey> I have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work
[14:18] <Dr_willis> I just hope the software center does not become the disaster the android-market  is becoming.
[14:18] <yandex237891> graingert: You're deluded. A single installer will work across multiple versions of Windows. Each version of Ubuntu requires a separate ppa. And once the two years of support is up for most distros, you're fucked to find a ppa anymore
[14:18] <magicJ> sacarlson: it is wired - and I like the idea - if the lease length is passed to the client when we connect then this will work fine - and I do think you may have this
[14:18] <graingert> because currently all apps I have installed can read my bitcoin wallet
[14:18] <ericl_> play
[14:18] <graingert> yandex237891: no you upgrade to the next version
[14:18]  * Dr_willis wonders why he needed 64 and 32bit installers for some windows apps the other day...
[14:19] <yandex237891> graingert: Most people (myself included) don't want to upgrade their OS every year or two, they just want upgraded applications
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: and that's not true either installers have to be changed for different versions of apps
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: well that's just not a secure way of doing buisness
[14:19] <Dr_willis> but this is getting OT..
[14:19] <graingert> yandex237891: just stick to the LTS
[14:19] <ericl_> LTS or a rolling release distro
[14:20] <graingert> rolling release meh
[14:20] <yandex237891> Rolling release is better, agreed.
[14:20] <graingert> I prefer having a clean start every 6mo
[14:20] <graingert> and I won't bother if someone doesn't force it on me
[14:20] <Dr_willis> clean install to get rid of the cruft ive been playing with.
[14:20] <myhero> when will nxt LTS come out ?
[14:20] <graingert> April
[14:20] <yandex237891> myhero: April this year
[14:20] <Dr_willis> 12.04 is lts.
[14:20] <yandex237891> myhero: Though it has the Unity interface by default, so be careful
[14:20] <Dr_willis> 2012 - 4th month.
[14:21] <myhero> this april....u mean the new beta version...which came out few days back
[14:21] <graingert> it's not a bother though just install gnome-panel and gnome-shell
[14:21] <myhero> kkk
[14:21] <graingert> and use one of those
[14:21] <Dr_willis> myhero,  its beta untill its released. :)
[14:21] <graingert> what about RC/
[14:21] <graingert> ?*
[14:22] <myhero> yea
[14:22] <myhero> what about oneiric...?
[14:22] <Dr_willis> what about it?
[14:22] <myhero> what will happen to it ?
[14:22] <myhero> will it b supported ?
[14:23] <myhero> like LTS
[14:23] <Dr_willis> !lts
[14:23] <Dr_willis> !11.10
[14:23] <Dr_willis> I forget the dates for non lts.
[14:23] <yandex237891> 5 years isn't very long for a server OS. Windows/Redhat support lasts far longer...
[14:24] <skurcey> I have a weird problem with my logitech USB mouse 5 buttons, i tried "xinput list" and it s listed twice. One button doesnt work
[14:24] <skurcey> what other command am i looking for?
[14:24] <Syria> Hi, I am running my machine under 11.10 and after upgrading Gnome to 3.4 I can't log in to it any more! can i role back the changes I made?
[14:24] <myhero> yea but then oneiric doesn't has any future...
[14:24] <kingkatari> i am trying to run a configure script and i am getting an error
[14:24] <Dr_willis> myhero,  you may want to start trying 12.04 then . even tho its still in beta.
[14:24] <kingkatari>  checking for MD5_Init in -lcrypto... yes
[14:25] <kingkatari>  checking for memcached_get in -lmemcached... no
[14:25] <Syria> bazhang:  Hi
[14:25] <kingkatari> configure: error: Missing required libmemcached library
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !find libmemcached
[14:25] <myhero> many have complained a lot for 12.04
[14:25] <blotek> Dr_willis, ubuntu is acting like it's all time beta;p
[14:25] <myhero> true
[14:25] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  most likely you need libmemcached-dev
[14:26] <Dr_willis> myhero,  people complain about everything...
[14:26] <Syria> Ubuntu has something calles LTS ;)
[14:26] <sacarlson> yandex237891: how would you like to support and update 10 different versions of your software for FREE over 5 years when you already have a working version in just one of them
[14:26] <myhero> thats also true
[14:26] <Dr_willis> they complain even more when its 'free'
[14:26] <myhero> rght
[14:26] <yandex237891> sacarlson: I don't know, you should ask the Debian developers :P
[14:27] <myhero> they complain less for windows which is so expensive...
[14:27] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Do you have time for me please? You have helped me many times before and thx in advance.
[14:27] <myhero> n even least for macs which wants ur pants off just for a mac
[14:27] <Dr_willis> Syria,  about to take the wife to the dr.. so not a lot of time.
[14:27] <sacarlson> yandex237891: as a developer myself I just want to keep the latest one supported not work on the past
[14:28] <myhero> what happened dr ?
[14:28] <yandex237891> sacarlson: Normal software lets you upgrade though. Ubuntu doesn't
[14:28] <Dr_willis> myhero,  Flu from the grandkids. :)
[14:28] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I hope that everything will be okay with you and your wife. :) TTYL
[14:28] <yandex237891> Dr_willis: Surely as a doctor you can fix it yourself?
[14:28] <myhero> ohhh
[14:28] <blotek> yandex237891, it doesnt rly ?
[14:28] <Dr_willis> im staying away from her.. i dont want to catch it....
[14:28] <myhero> sad things......god blessings
[14:28] <blotek> im not ubuntu user but as far as i remember u can always upgrade
[14:29] <kingkatari> Thanks DR_Willis
[14:29] <yandex237891> blotek: I've had bad experiences with upgrading
[14:29] <kingkatari> that worked
[14:29] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so whats the actual issue?
[14:29] <sacarlson> yandex237891: the limits are normaly lib changes that you need to change code keep it compatible, then you need to fix bugs
[14:29] <myhero> y u wanna b away frm ur own wife ?
[14:29] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what are you trying to compile?
[14:29] <myhero> thats weird...
[14:29] <blotek> yandex237891, i've had bad experiences with ubuntu always ;p then i tried other distros and they dont have that many issues actually not even 10% of issues of ubuntu ;)
[14:30] <Dr_willis> myhero,  she has the flu.. and is pukeing her guts out. :P
[14:30] <angs> I have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?
[14:30] <Koompje> can anyone see why my script doesnt accept numbers higher than 9 ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/
[14:30] <myhero> she is ur half part...b with her even if u catch it
[14:30] <Koompje> its very basic
[14:30] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Sometimes for no reason that I can notice.. on the network tray on the panel I see a message that says no networking devices! and after restarting and shutting down for several times it works and I can connect to wireless and lan networks again!
[14:30] <kingkatari> a server
[14:30] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so both wireless and wired networking drops every so often?
[14:31] <kingkatari> crap now i am getting another errer
[14:31] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what app? is an older version in the repos?
[14:31] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Yeah both of them.
[14:31] <myhero> anyways god n good blessings...
[14:31] <kingkatari> checking for pg_config... no
[14:31] <kingkatari> no
[14:31] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[14:31] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'
[14:31] <yandex237891> Does anyone know how to raise issues in launchpad when they're being ignored? I reported a bug, just got told to report it upstream, but now have no response from either upstream or the Ubuntu developers.
[14:32] <Syria> Dr_willis:  It happened after upgrading gnome to 3.4, and i can't log in to gnome anymore I am working on unity now.
[14:32] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so its affecting  all the desktops and not just gnome 3.4?
[14:33] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I can't log in to Gnome at all, and the rest of environment like KDE and unity have a bad graphics now.
[14:33] <horse01> Hi
[14:34] <angs> I have a laptop and PC. the PC runs ubuntu and it doesnt have a monitor. I would like to use ubuntu remotely. I installed teamviewer but the teamviewer 50% does not work at the startup. Would you recommend me to use another program that wouldnt have problem to start in the startup of ubuntu?
[14:34] <horse01> How can I hide my piblic ip adress like ceveral person on irc?
[14:34] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> angs I have a vitual box.
[14:34] <yandex237891> angs: VNC
[14:34] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> *virtual.
[14:35] <Syria> angs:  I usually use VNC and SSH.
[14:35] <kingkatari> !find pg_config
[14:35] <llutz> horse01: read freenode-faq on http://freenode.net about cloaks and ask in #freenode
[14:35] <angs> is VNC like teamviewer?
[14:35] <myhero> yea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both
[14:35] <angs> or teamviewer like VNC?:)
[14:36] <Syria> angs:  Use remote desktop viewr, Pre installed with ubuntu.
[14:36] <horse01> llutz: ok thanks
[14:36] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> You could yuse VNC or Oracle VM VirtualBox.
[14:36] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Neither one is fine.
[14:36] <angs> thanks a lot for the suggestions
[14:36] <Syria> Yeah both sucks even on a high speed LAN.
[14:37] <myhero> any1 know about this issue ?
[14:37] <myhero> any1 know about this issue ?
[14:37] <myhero> yea 1 issue....just came to my mind....are BROADCOM network wifi cards not supported in ubuntu or what...??? i hve 2 lappys with both having broadcom network cards n having problems catching the signal n in connecting but work fine under windows.....n a 3rd lappy with intel network card which m currently on which works fine with ubuntu n windows both
[14:37] <FloodBot1> myhero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <Dr_willis> Syria,  so basically trying out gnome 3.4 really messed things up? :)
[14:37] <Syria> Ubuntu should developer something like RDP. :(
[14:37] <sacarlson> myhero: I think it's a lisence isue,  they make it hard to install the needed firmware and stuf
[14:37] <Syria> Dr_willis:  yes, Exactly. :(
[14:38] <Dr_willis> myhero,  totally depends on the exact chipset. some drivers for some wireless cards are a bit buggy sadly.
[14:38] <myhero> mayb but i googled n mostly saw that broadcom wifi cards hve issues on ubuntu....
[14:38] <kingkatari> ok this is driving me mad
[14:38] <Dr_willis> myhero,  as a test case you could try a 12.04 live cd. and see if the newer kernel/drivers work better.
[14:39] <sacarlson> myhero: yes because it's one of the few that isn't plug and play
[14:39] <z1lla> i like this chan
[14:39] <yandex237891> myhero: Wireless support can be a bit wank in Linux. It's because the manufacturers don't give out proper specs, so the drivers can be just binary blobs.
[14:39] <yandex237891> My own wireless card doesn't work in the 3.x series of kernels
[14:39] <rileyp> i installed 11.10 beside w7 and w7 booted after installing and now it wont
[14:39] <Dr_willis> I just ordered 2 wireless  usb's today off amazon.. found one that had many reviews saying it worked great in ubuntu.. heh.
[14:39] <rileyp> what might be upset?
[14:40] <Dr_willis> rileyp,  what does it do exactly instead of not booting?
[14:40] <Syria> I always make sure that hardware I want to buy are supported by ubuntu. :D
[14:40] <Dr_willis> Syria,  that can be hard to do at times.
[14:40] <myhero> yea i can try 12.04 for broadcom wifi cards
[14:40] <yandex237891> Syria: You mean supported by Linux, Ubuntu is meaningless
[14:40] <Koompje> Can someone perhaps look at this code? i wrote it but dont know why it doesnt accept numbers higher than 9... Its very simple
[14:41] <Koompje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916085/
[14:41] <Syria> yandex237891:  Yes.
[14:41] <sacarlson> myhero: sometimes newer isn't better, there have been times I have to go back to older code that still works until they fix the new code
[14:41] <myhero> yea that also happens
[14:42] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Can I roll back the changes I made? Regarding Gnome 3.4?
[14:42] <Dr_willis> Syria,  guess it depends on how you installed it.  only 3.4 stuff ive seen is for 12.04
[14:42] <myhero> sacarlson - how to msg to any specific user name....not pvt msg but to any specific user so it gets highlighted
[14:42] <Dr_willis> Syria,  theres always the ppapurge command
[14:42] <yandex237891> Koompje: I think your regex is incorrect
[14:43] <myhero> best is to try the new apps os n coddes live so nothing goes wrong
[14:43] <yandex237891> Koompje: [0-99]
[14:43] <myhero> otherwise must wait for some time
[14:43] <thesheff17> anyone good with gparted?  I have an ntfs partition /dev/sda3 with 132GB of free space behind it but it won't let me reszie it?  Any suggestions?
[14:44] <Syria> Dr_willis: This is what I have done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/916101/
[14:44] <kingkatari> anyone able to help me with this error
[14:44] <kingkatari> checking if PostgreSQL version is >= 7.4.0... yes
[14:44] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[14:44] <kingkatari> ./configure: line 5653: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'
[14:44] <myhero> what every1 think here - windows or ubuntu - which is more user frndly - which is better - which is less bug free ?
[14:44] <yandex237891> Koompje: I don't see why you'd write such a thing in bash personally (unless it's a homework assignment), bash is a disgusting language to use
[14:44] <llutz> !polls | myhero
[14:45] <yandex237891> myhero: Ubuntu was more user friendly with Gnome 2. Windows is more user friendly since Unity.
[14:45] <wylde> !ot | myhero
[14:45] <myhero> kk
[14:45] <Dr_willis> Syria,  time to learn how to use ppa-purge i guess.
[14:45] <Koompje> im just trying to learn a bit... what language do you recommend?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> 'user friendly' = meaningless buzz word.
[14:45] <sacarlson> kingkatari: maybe it doesn't like this version of compiler?  what is it we are compiling?
[14:46] <Koompje> yandex237891?
[14:46] <Dr_willis> kingkatari,  what exactly was it you are compiling?  that code seems broken.
[14:46] <myhero> not meaningless...every1 has diff opinions n thinkings...i was not taking polls but just was seeing how the ppl who use think about ubuntu.....nothing more then that
[14:47] <horse01> llutz: unfortunately, I can't found the answer at this adress: http://freenode.net, maybe I must be "registred" for to do that?
[14:47] <Dr_willis> its became meningless because it means so many differnt things.
[14:47] <Syria> Dr_willis:  I am now installing ppa-purge
[14:47] <bazhang> myhero, its offtopic here. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:48] <myhero> whatever
[14:48] <haux> After installing fglrx and using amdccc, xubuntu's loading screen (on startup or during reboot) appears to have a lower resolution, and the images (background, xubuntu logo) are stretched a bit horizontally. I have followed various procedures after doing some research, but nothing has fixed that issue. Could someone here help me out with this?
[14:49] <llutz> horse01: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:49] <Syria> Dr_willis:  Do i have to do this now? sudo ppa-purge ppa:ricotz/testing
[14:49] <llutz> horse01: and yes, you need to be registered
[14:50] <Dr_willis> Syria,  ive not really needed ppa purge - i suggest finding osme guides on using it.
[14:50] <Dr_willis> bbl
[14:50] <horse01> llutz: thanks a lot
[14:51] <RealOp> ola
[14:51] <RealOp> so um suggestions for a hard drive clone tool
[14:51] <RealOp> ???? :)
[14:51] <rileyp> Dr_willis: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/index.cfm?action=edit&e=33714946
[14:51] <RealOp> hmm i guess maybe dd tool would work
[14:51] <ikonia> RealOp: clonezilla ?
[14:51] <RealOp> AH
[14:51] <RealOp> sounds like what i need
[14:52] <RealOp> i love a zilla
[14:52] <Syria> Yeah clonezilla is pretty awesome.
[14:52]  * zilla feels the love
[14:52] <gfc> QUIT
[14:52] <rileyp> Dr_willis:  if you have the time I have linked to my booting  my issue if you could be so kind
[14:53] <abhisinghal> ow to make pen drive file system FAT???
[14:53] <abhisinghal> how to make pen drive file system FAT???
[14:53] <abhisinghal> HElp
[14:54] <Bragex9> I have memtester 4.2.1-1 on my system. But how do I start it?
[14:54] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: boot drive?  you can use disk utility gui to format in any format you wish
[14:54] <sajimon> abhisinghal: try mkfs.vfat /dev/[your device]
[14:54] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: but for boot you need a different tool
[14:56] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: or sajimon command method will also work for format
[14:56] <myhero> frm which command to obtain pc's mac address ?
[14:56] <bastidrazor> myhero: ifconfig
[14:56] <iceroot> myhero: ifconfig
[14:56] <neonman> ip link
[14:56] <blitz> firefox aurora seems to think I no longer have the correct flash plugin installed after the latest restart, what should I do
[14:56] <myhero> ip link or ifconfig ?
[14:56] <sacarlson> myhero: sudo ifconfig ;  will display each
[14:56] <neonman> any of them, ip link shows less stuff
[14:56] <myhero> k
[14:57] <bastidrazor> sacarlson: you don't need to sudo that.
[14:57] <myhero> what about broadcom issue i asked b4 ?
[14:57] <neonman> Wasn't there
[14:57] <sacarlson> bastidrazor: your correct you can abtain that info from ifconfig without sudo,  but any changes to address will require it
[14:58] <backbox> ciao
[14:58] <sacarlson> myhero: you want a solution?  you should provide the hardware data from sudo lshw; and also google it
[14:58] <abhisinghal> sajimon your command didnt work
[14:58] <horse01> llutz: thanks again, I'll do that later (I have no time now), have a nice day
[14:59] <fayimora> A friend wants to start a business and wants to know what kind of server he should be aiming to buy. He wants to run a SaaS company.. Any ideas?
[14:59] <sajimon> abhisinghal: what exactly didnt worked
[14:59] <pn_123123> Is HUD the only GUI available in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <sajimon> hud isnt a gui.
[15:00] <iceroot> pn_123123: hud is not a gui
[15:00] <abhisinghal> sajimonsee this
[15:00] <abhisinghal> abhishek@abhishek-ThinkCentre-A55:~$ mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1
[15:00] <pn_123123> Ok.
[15:00] <abhisinghal> bash: mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1: No such file or directory
[15:00] <iceroot> fayimora: ##hardware
[15:00] <iceroot> abhisinghal: space after vfat
[15:00] <fayimora> ok
[15:00] <sacarlson> abhisinghal: I think that's a sudo command and be carefull to be sure you know what the usb device is before you format it
[15:01] <blitz> is there a way I can point mozilla to the correct flash plugin?
[15:01] <test_> hi, How do I remove wine from this computer? I tried with synaptic and terminal, but it's still there.
[15:01] <yandex237891> test_: I suggest a damp cloth
[15:02] <test_> none of my install applications will work, so I was going to do a complete uninstall and install the newest version
[15:02] <test_> lol yandex
[15:02] <sajimon> abhisinghal: if running with sudo wont change anything, you must install fat utils by "sudo apt-get install dosfstools"
[15:02] <Kian1> Hi guys, lately my Ubuntu is acting weird, when I start Chromium it flashes in and disappear , this happens for some other apps once in a while and but for Chromium it constantly is the case (Ubuntu 11.10) Anybody might know the reason ?
[15:02] <yandex237891> test_: What message do you get when trying to remove it through the terminal?
[15:02] <blitz> have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[15:02] <myhero> i did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address
[15:03] <myhero> ??????/
[15:03] <sajimon> Kian1: run chromium from terminal and see whats the error
[15:03] <myhero> i did ifconfig...output some HWaddr:****** so this address is wifi card address or wifi modem router address????
[15:03] <Kian1> Sorry I am a complete newbie in Linux
[15:04] <Kian1> I entered Chromium / chromium / './Chromium' and system couldn't find it apparently
[15:04] <sajimon> Kian1: i think command it chromium-browser
[15:05] <sacarlson> myhero: you might want to pastebinit the info to us for the details example pastebinit | sudo lshw ;  you will need to install pastebinit if not installed already apt-get install pastebinit
[15:05] <myhero> kk
[15:05] <Kian1> it says 'Segmentation fault' !!!???
[15:05] <bastidrazor> myhero: its your wifi card inside your computer
[15:06] <sajimon> Kian1: and nothing else?
[15:06] <Kian1> yes
[15:06] <Kian1> only the command prompt again
[15:06] <WeThePeople> may i spam?
[15:06] <WeThePeople> jk
[15:06] <sacarlson> bastidrazor: I think myhero said it was a laptop, I  have no other details
[15:07] <sajimon> Kian1: run "dmesg" and look for info about chromium fail at bottom
[15:07] <llutz> #972285
[15:07] <llutz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972285
[15:07] <llutz> Kian1: ^^
[15:08] <haylo> my friend is quadraplegic- he does run ubuntu 11, I neeed to make him a foot pedal to control some keys on the keyboard. I figured ubuntu staff is more likely to know  a solution to this than anyone
[15:08] <Kian1> ok just a sec
[15:08] <haylo> a new key board with unique keymapping for my quadraplegic frien would be ideal- but we can modify keyboards or whatever it takes
[15:08] <MarKsaitis> best app in ubuntu lxde to configure existing services, remove or disable them?
[15:09] <llutz> MarKsaitis: sysv-rc-conf
[15:09] <MarKsaitis> llutz, thank you! best
[15:10] <MarKsaitis> not bad. But anything better? I want them at a glance, so I can go thru and remove the ones I do not need
[15:10] <Kian1> I just did 'dmesg' and redirect the output to a file and searched it , no trace of Chromium in that file
[15:10] <blitz> I figured it out myself
[15:11] <sacarlson> haylo: the keyboard is mappable but I'm not sure what or how you want to map it.  you might also consider voice recogognition if voice is still an option
[15:11] <sajimon> Kian1: llutz pasted a link with bug, its appears You are not the only one affected
[15:12] <MarKsaitis> how do I disable and remove the specified service?
[15:13] <MarKsaitis> for example I want to completelly remove bluetooth
[15:13] <Kian1> sajimon, llutz: thanx
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: blacklist the bluetooth module, should be ok
[15:14] <Glacee> Who should I talk to to get our application on the ubuntu repo or having it supported by ubuntu?
[15:14] <MarKsaitis> I want to completelly get rid of that crap ActionParsnip
[15:14] <sacarlson> MarKsaitis: it looks like you just check or uncheck the service in sysv-rc-conf,  you want more prity graphics?
[15:15] <yandex237891> Glacee: The best thing is to investigate adding your application to Debian, that way it will automatically be picked up by Ubuntu. I presume it's open source?
[15:15] <MarKsaitis> I don't understand runlevel concept. What does 5 6 0 and S mean?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: then remove the packages named in:   dpkg -l | grep blue    that aren't bluetooth related
[15:15] <erratic>  php 4
[15:15] <bazhang> Glacee, what about a PPA
[15:15] <erratic> php 5.4
[15:15] <Glacee> yandex237891: thanks.. yes it is its an auth system that integrates openstack swift to cloudstack
[15:15] <bazhang> !ppa | Glacee
[15:15] <llutz> !runlevel | MarKsaitis
[15:15] <erratic> !ppa php-5.4
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: blacklisting bluetooth will make it not load, all you will be losing is a few Mb of drive space....
[15:16] <erratic> !porn
[15:16] <Glacee> yeah well.. we have a ppa already but just thought t would be cool to have it in the official repo
[15:16] <bazhang> erratic, /msg ubottu ...
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | erratic
[15:16] <erratic> no way he no know nothing
[15:16] <erratic> i msg u
[15:16] <Kian1> sajimon: so sould I revert back to prev version of kernel ? (how we do that ?)
[15:17] <test_> kexanie, someone may have resolved your problem with crome, but if not you can try opening ubuntu software center (assuming you are using ubuntu) and install the Chromium web browser which is the same as crome. I hope that helps
[15:17] <yandex237891> test_: Chromium != Chrome. Chrome is proprietary software. Chromium is not.
[15:18] <test_> I thought that is where crome come from, the Linux chromium
[15:18] <sacarlson> Kian1: you can change the defalt kernel boot with a gui grub-customize that can be found in ppa
[15:19] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone I'm having a problem executing an init.d rc file, I copied and updated a similar file to a new file name. I ran update-rc.d swstomcat defaults and that ran fine.
[15:19] <MarKsaitis> how do I blacklist a service? should I uncheck it instead then? what the diffeence?
[15:19] <Remowylliams> but when I try to execute /etc/init.d/swstomcat start it tells me *swstomcat is not installed
[15:19] <MarKsaitis> so what is runlevel 0 and S ?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[15:20] <Kircle> After uninstalling emerald and trying to use compiz as my window decorator my window borders disappear after opening another window that's maximised. Here's my ubuntuforums entry http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952677
[15:21] <melvincv> !upstart
[15:21] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: might sudo start swstomcat ;  work?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> MarKsaitis: run:   echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:21] <nemos>  failed to call wbcGetpwnam: WBC_ERR_DOMAIN_NOT_FOUND any clue?
[15:21] <Kian1> sacarlson: thanx alot, another issue I have is that everytime I boot I get a different dispaly resolution with so many error on resolution auto detect and refresh rate I guess
[15:21] <nemos> error i get with wbinfo -i username
[15:21] <Kian1> after several trials finally it goes full screen resolution
[15:22] <nemos> ???
[15:22] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: No I don't thinks so because I can use /etc/init.d/tomcat6 start just fine
[15:22] <sacarlson> Kian1: I guess that's a xorg thing? maybe your monitor isn't detected or it's specs are unknown
[15:22] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: and not running it as a required user should generate a privilage error not a not installed message
[15:23] <Kian1> sacarlson: it's an old VAIO laptop
[15:23] <jeremiah_> can someone please tell me how to instal sun java 6 runtime from the website via terminal?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: sun don't own java now, it's oracle
[15:24] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: maybe a path problem?  how did you install it?
[15:24] <yandex237891> jeremiah_: I think it's in the default repositories
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[15:24] <yandex237891> ActionParsnip: It's still labelled sun_java in the repos isn't it?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> yandex237891: java isn't packaged any more due to license
[15:24] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: I found the problem I'm pretty sure thanks.
[15:24] <yandex237891> ActionParsnip: Well that's a bit crap
[15:24] <Kian1> sacarlson: should I go try to change some config file of xorg ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> yandex237891: it's oracle, so yes
[15:24] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: so what was the solution?
[15:25] <sacarlson> Kian1: you might want to google your display to see if it's supported and or provide the info to us here
[15:26] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: Have to find the bin directory with the bin/boostrap.jar file it's part of this startup script
[15:26] <RayzrShrp> I have 4 nics on one 11.04 machine and only the first 3 are being listed in ifconfig
[15:26] <sacarlson> Remowylliams: ok cool
[15:26] <RayzrShrp> if I do lspci though the missing one is listed
[15:27] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ok then oracle java
[15:27] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:27] <anoopthyk> Anyone know about status of Beeceem Wimax support in Linux specifically ubuntu
[15:28] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: they all the same nic chipset?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_:   what is the output of the command I gave please?
[15:28] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, Linux jeremiah-HP-Compaq-6910p-00000000 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:28] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 2 of them are, one of the ones that doesnt show up is the same, a realtek 8139
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[15:28] <Kian1> sacarlson: the laptop is a Viao vgn-c140g and the graphic processor is Intel GMA 950
[15:29] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, there isn't many people in there.
[15:29] <Kian1> sacarlson: 1280 x 800 ( WXGA )
[15:29] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: might look at /var/log/system and see what might be found there on that device
[15:29] <fubada> hi, I changed my box from DHCP to static, however, nightly it re negotiates a new DHCP address
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: doesn't matter, precise is not supported here.
[15:29] <fubada> can soemone clarify where that could be
[15:29] <Remowylliams> sacarlson: yep that fixed it. sorry should have read the script.
[15:29] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ok whatever....
[15:29] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: im guessing they are stepping on each other
[15:30] <MarKsaitis> how to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> fubada: how did you define the IP?
[15:30] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: ya could be an interupt conflict or other problem
[15:30] <dr--willis> MarKsaitis:  runtume?
[15:31] <blitz> I have flash-plugin installed, how do I make aurora use that instead of gnash?
[15:31] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: if posible you might just try move the cards to different slots if that's an option
[15:31] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: i dont seem to have a /var/log/system log file
[15:31] <bazhang> blitz, remove gnash completely
[15:31] <dr--willis> !runlevel
[15:31] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, in fact, i am the only one in ther!
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> dr-willis yes
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: channel policy dude
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis,  yes
[15:31] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: that is an option but i put them next to each other assuming the share slots would be 1-3 and 2-4
[15:31] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip, ya i know...
[15:31] <blitz> ok bazhang, done, now what
[15:32] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: you have to use your imagination I can't remember exactly it's /var/log/syslog
[15:32] <bazhang> jeremiah_, you're not in #ubuntu+1
[15:32] <jeremiah_> bazhang, what? now i see i am in ubuntu+.
[15:32] <jeremiah_> hang on
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> (16:28:54) ActionParsnip: jeremiah_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[15:32]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[15:33] <janhouse> can I write ubuntu.iso to the USB flash using dd? should it work?
[15:33] <MarKsaitis> how to query the system to tell me what runtime is it all in now?
[15:33] <blitz> bazhang, now firefox just says "You do not have the correct Flash plugin installed. Get Flash Now" again
[15:33] <dr--willis> jeremiah_:  you are not in there
[15:33] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: well that's how I got my video capture card to work, it just didn't like one slot as I think moving slots changes the interupt signal needed
[15:33] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -5
[15:33] <bazhang> janhouse, or cat
[15:34] <janhouse> so dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc should work?
[15:34] <jeremiah_> dr--willis, now i am
[15:34] <janhouse> or do I write it to partition
[15:34] <MarKsaitis> how on earth do I know which runlevels do I uncheck that service for? Also, whats the difference in blacklisting a service and unchecking it on runlevels?
[15:34] <janhouse> /dev/sdc1
[15:35] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 8139too 0000:02:0a.0: Chip not responding, ignoring board
[15:35] <Lantizia> Anyone familiar with mtools?  I know about using the -i parameter so I can avoid setting drive letters... but how are you meant to use that if your performing operations on a partition inside the image?
[15:35] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I googled and see others having the same problem
[15:35] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: hmmm
[15:35] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: problem is I haven't found any in english yet
[15:36] <MarKsaitis> why networking service is in runlevel 0 and 6? Doesnt make a damn SENSE?!?!?!
[15:36] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: lol super
[15:36] <fubada> guys, I changed my interfaces file to a static configuration (removing dhcp), but nightly I seem to obtain a dhcp address somehow
[15:36] <fubada> can someone clarify what could be causing this
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> fubada: do you have network manager still installed?
[15:36] <fubada> not sure, I installed ubuntu-server, dont think it comes with N
[15:36] <fubada> M
[15:36] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: guess ill have to do standard hardware tshoot, pull 8139 that works and try one that doesnt to rule out the card
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> fubada: I'd check
[15:37] <fubada> theres no gui at all
[15:37] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: first one in english don't see a solution in it http://fixunix.com/networking/10831-network-card-problem.html
[15:37] <fubada> no xorg
[15:37] <fubada> so theres no network manager
[15:37] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: its odd that the exact same card works, maybe the card is bad
[15:37] <gmi> fubada: there is adhclient3 process there
[15:37] <fubada> where
[15:37] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: try just swap the card locations it might be a quick fix
[15:37] <Fallout301> at the moment, I'm using ubuntu in a virtual box, so i was kinda wondering if there was a way I could force ubuntu to use 1360x768, it worked for 1 day then decided to only work on any resolution BUT my own
[15:37] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: yep ill try that
[15:38] <fubada> gmi you mean: dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases -1 eth0
[15:38] <fubada> ?
[15:38] <fubada> i need to kill that heh
[15:38] <fubada> thats what it is
[15:38] <FloodBot1> fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <gmi> fubada: yes
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> fubada: nm-cli exists, as does wic-curses
[15:39] <fubada> ActionParsnip: i had dhclient running in background, i think killing it fixed the problem
[15:39] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: if i can get this to work ill be able to build a sick CCIE lab using gns3
[15:39] <fubada> i never rebooted after changing interfaces file
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> fubada: could uninstall the package that gives the dhclient command
[15:40] <fubada> i tried that, but it also tries to remove "ubuntu-minimal" with it
[15:40] <fubada> which is not a good idea
[15:40] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: your lab will be cranking trust me
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> fubada: true
[15:40] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 10 usb nics, a 3550, a 3400 and 4 nics in a gns server
[15:40] <alex228> nujnuj
[15:40] <alex228> hell gays
[15:40] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: virtual routers connected to a psycial network
[15:41] <alex228> hello gays
[15:41] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: ok we can only hope
[15:42] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: what did you google on for that?
[15:42] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: just 8139too: probe of 0000:02:0a.0 failed with error -5
[15:42] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: yes
[15:43] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I got 6 results
[15:43] <odisha2> it's #wolfgame - #wolfgame - #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - join #wolfgame - #wolfgame - let's go #wolfgame - come on #wolfgame
[15:45] <lqw_Einstieg> hi
[15:45] <bse__-> hello. i was wondering: i have a 1tb harddisk in my ubuntu box. i know that they calculate that in GB, not GiB. so actually that should be equal to 931 GiB. but then there's a large discrepency when i do "df -h". it tells me the actual size of the drive is 917 GiB, it says 131 GiB are used, and 740 GiB are free (131 GiB + 740 GiB = 871 GiB, actually). i only have large files (a few hundred megabytes each) on it. it's formatted as ext 4. i was wondering ...
[15:45] <bse__-> ... where the differences originate from
[15:45] <bolly> anyone know if a recently bought logitech microphone can be used with linux - ubuntu???
[15:45] <bolly> I feel robbed.
[15:46] <beandog> bse__-: that's normal enough.  While they are marketed as one, there's always like 10% or so actually missing.  Something about how they count the amount.
[15:46] <bse__-> beandog: that i already made clear - they calculate in GiB, not GB. base 10. but the rest is a mystery.
[15:46] <LjL> bse__-: ext4 allocates 5% of the drive to root-only use, it might be that
[15:46] <Dr_willis> bse__-,  and 5% is reserved for root user recovery. but thats tuneable via tune2fs command
[15:47] <gmi> bse_: the miising 10% are used by your filesystem, when you format it you can use to have less inodes and less reserved space
[15:47] <beandog> bse__-: could be ext4 reserving space for root.  5% by default
[15:47] <bse__-> LjL: Dr_willis: gmi: thanks :)
[15:47]  * melvincv wonders what algorithm the HDD manufacturers use to calculate disk space :P
[15:47] <beandog> LjL: I've never understood the point of that.
[15:47] <Dr_willis> melvincv,  marketing math.
[15:48] <bse__-> oh yes, 5% actually matches exactly the difference in what df -h shows
[15:48] <LjL> beandog: well nowadays it could be made less i guess, but the idea is that logfiles and important things will still be written to disk even when it's "full"
[15:48] <mneptok> beandog: if you accidently fill all space and suddenly cannot write to config files, logs and such, the system will break in bad ways.
[15:48] <Dr_willis> I set the reserved space to 0% on my homes :) but rarely touch it on /
[15:48] <bse__-> then about 2.5% may be for the filesystem itself, and it's explained
[15:48] <beandog> LjL: Does it actually use that though?  That's what I've never figured out.
[15:49] <LjL> beandog: yes, i've sometimes been unable to write to the disk as a user, but i could as root, so i can personally confirm it does ;)
[15:49] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: are there any tools to interface with that realtek card?
[15:49] <beandog> LjL: really.  Well, that's cool.  So it's a built-in quota.
[15:50] <mneptok> beandog: it is unused but reserved. 1% should be enough on a 1TB disk. "sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/WHATEVER"
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> hi, I have a mirror downloaded onto my hard-drive for ubuntu oneiric. Having trouble getting software center to install from this mirror on hard-drive.
[15:50] <beandog> mneptok: agreed.
[15:50] <beandog> I usually use tunefs to reduce it
[15:50] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: tools?  you can setup options in modprobe.  I'm not sure what you mean
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> I add the line "deb file:///reposdir oneiric main restricted universe muliverse.
[15:50] <Dr_willis> the tuneing% change will only take affect after the fs is remounted i think. Might need a reboot.. not sure.
[15:50] <RayzrShrp> lsmod
[15:50] <gmi> bse__: read this http://www.wiredrevolution.com/system-administration/free-ext3-reserved-blocks-with-tune2fs
[15:50] <RayzrShrp> oops
[15:51] <nuxx> hi everybody
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> Yet software center seems to not install from this repository on hard-drive. I don't understand why. I did a "apt-get update" yet it is not working.
[15:51] <bse__-> gmi: thanks, i guess 1% will be plenty then. my main drive is a very small ssd which still has about 50% space left anyway
[15:51] <nuxx> im having some trouble to install d-link wifi dongle  on ubuntu
[15:52] <Unknown0BC> I am wondering if any of you successfully use a repository on local hard-drive.
[15:52] <nuxx> can someone help me please
[15:53] <mneptok> nuxx: the first step is to find out who made the wireless chipset in that D-Link, because D-Link did not. "lsusb -vvv" with the dongle plugged in should tell you. Realtek, Broadcom, someone like that.
[15:53] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I'm finding some methods to modify the irq settings in this example http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=137268
[15:54] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I think it's a irq conflict as my best guess
[15:55] <sacarlson> nuxx: what is seen with that device with command  lsusb ;
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 04f3:0213 Elan Microelectronics Corp.
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:56] <FloodBot1> nuxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <nuxx> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:57] <mneptok> !pastebin | nuxx
[15:57] <nuxx> sorry
[15:57] <sacarlson> nuxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903327
[15:58] <mneptok> sacarlson: wifi dongle, not flash storage.
[15:59] <sacarlson> mneptok: that's the only device I see
[15:59] <phpN00b> can some one recommend me a goo webbased torrent client?
[15:59] <sacarlson> nuxx: so I guess your device isn't seen at all, try another usb port
[15:59] <mneptok> sacarlson: nuxx is asking about a wifi dongle. and his paste was cut off by the bots.
[16:00] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: dmesg is showing one on irq 18 and the other on irq 21
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> phpN00b: transmission has a web UI
[16:00] <i7c> phpN00b: so has deluged, but i find deluged very buggy.
[16:00] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: maybe the card cant work at irq 21
[16:00] <i7c> better stick so transmission indeed.
[16:00] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: or something else is also using irq 21
[16:00] <phpN00b> ActionParsnip, I need it to work over ssl
[16:01] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: is there a way to list what is using what irq?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> phpN00b: deluge
[16:02] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I'm sure there is
[16:02] <thunder1212> do i need to upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 LTS distro if i purchase new hardware like a printer which is not being automatically detected or installed on my current distro.. plz help
[16:03] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp:  cat /proc/interrupts
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: yes it will be detected. I'd go for an HP
[16:04] <mneptok> thunder1212: did you check the printer compatability? - http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[16:04] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I would look in ppa before I upgrade.  for me upgrade is a last resort
[16:05] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: 21 is not listed
[16:05] <RayzrShrp> eth0 adn eth1 are using 16 and eth2 is using 18
[16:05] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: well then it must not conflict then
[16:06] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: actually the printer got detected its also being shown there in the printers list but whenever i give a print command it shows no error and reports the job competed although it didn't print anything..
[16:06] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: and what happens when you move the card to a different slot?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: remove the printer and reboot. Reinstall it and it may help
[16:07] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: maybe the card really is broken,  I have had one bad nic card in 30 years
[16:07] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: yeah i wont know until tonight when im home and can move around the cards, ive never had a bad card
[16:07] <JeroenDeDauw> I think my grep is broken, is there some way to reinstall?
[16:08] <mneptok> sacarlson: if it's 30 years, you are extremely lucky. Token Ring cards has hideous fail rates.
[16:08] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: what makes you think it's broken?
[16:08] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: did all that, even downloaded the drivers from hp website for the printer and installed manually as explained on the hp site .. i downloaded around 100+Mb of missing libs durint the installation ans it still did not print anything..
[16:09] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: because it does not find any matches when it should, and some scripts using it are failing
[16:09] <sacarlson> mneptok: we had got good stuf from sun micro in the old days
[16:09] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: can you pastebin some examples?
[16:09] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: what would  good example be?
[16:09] <angs> I use ubuntu 10.04. when it is powered up, if it can not find monitor, it gives an error and stop the start up process. how can I disable the option to scan if there is monitor or not on the pc?
[16:09] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: one that fails :-)
[16:10] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: im guessing it has to do something with both network cards being the exact same make/model
[16:10] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: i mean, you can just reinstall the grub package, but it might be useful to understand the error, in case it is not limited to grep.
[16:11] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I would think you would have more problems with other vendors conflict,  you would think the same model would be made to work together
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I have been trying to fix git review for 4 hours now. I want it to work. I don't care why it's broken anymore at this point.
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> And it looks like the issue is coming from grep
[16:11] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: you will if it breaks again.
[16:11] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: it did not break, this is a fresh Ubuntu install on which it did not work
[16:11] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: not much else i can think to do right now without being able to move those cards around
[16:11] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: oh but being two of them they may default to the same irq
[16:11] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so u don't upgrade ur distro and u look in the ppa of the newer versions and install the requisite software..
[16:12] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: what makes you think reinstalling the package will be of use, in that case?
[16:12] <sacarlson> thunder1212: yes I stick with lts
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | angs
[16:12] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I don't think it will, I think it might.
[16:13] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: well, give it a try.
[16:13] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I play with other versions in virtualbox and multiboot in my test partitions when needed
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: I am not a sysadmin and don't care about dealing with this stuff, I want to get back to my actual job
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> sipior: how?
[16:13] <JeroenDeDauw> if I do sudo apt-get remove grep it gives a warning
[16:13] <dr--willis> !find grep
[16:13] <sipior> JeroenDeDauw: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall grep"
[16:14] <tomu_> hello
[16:14] <dr--willis> wonder if hes useing some grep alternative like egrep
[16:14] <sipior> dr--willis: they all come from the same package :-)
[16:15] <dr--willis> !find egrep
[16:15] <Bend> Hello, can you help me to install video card driver? I have a AGP Radeon 9100.....Xubuntu 11.10 doesn't find any hardware driver :(
[16:15] <DropsOfSerenity> dr--willis, that's really handy, is there a way to find a package like that using a command? apt-cache search is never that good, is there like a !find grep just like how you did
[16:15] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ok .. so do you try a lot of linux distros on ur laptop and if i try a lot of distros on my laptop.. that is if i test many distros on my laptop will it get damaged?
[16:16] <dr--willis> apt-file  DropsOfSerenity   is handy
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> hi im trying to burn an iso image
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> usign k3b
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> on kubuntu
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> but i cant get it done
[16:16] <michaeltaxon> can someone please help?
[16:17] <FloodBot1> michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: i need a way to manually set the irq for that second card some how maybe
[16:17] <thunder1212> sacarlson: also if u could tell me how to add ppd of latest versions of ubuntu bcoz my printer works with ubuntu 11.04 and later vers.
[16:17] <sacarlson> thunder1212: one thing I use a desktop unit,  and you should be able to at least try a live cd or boot an iso with no risk as long as you don't overwrite any of your preinstalled stuf
[16:17] <dr--willis> michaeltaxon:  and the error is?
[16:18] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[16:18] <michaeltaxon> hi dr willis
[16:19] <MangledBody> Hi everyone! Can anybody help me with Tibia client? The native one for Linux is chopping as hell, but the windows one under Wine runs flawlessly... Anyone knows how to change settings, or what is missing?
[16:19] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i mean will there or can there be a hardware failure if i do too much installtion and uninstallation on my laptop
[16:19] <jack65> hello
[16:20] <michaeltaxon>  dr willis
[16:20] <sacarlson> thunder1212: your not forced to install to try, and no if you keep a spare partition to play with I can't see how you might damage something.  but anything is posible I suppose
[16:20] <dr--willis> !details
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> the error  is cdrecord returned an unknown error  (code 255)
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried in Unity2D?
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> sometimes using TAO writing mode solves this issue
[16:20] <michaeltaxon> please help me
[16:20] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: I get the words http://musicaearte.altervista.org/             FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, nothing... It's just chopping...
[16:21] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: whats odd is under lshw it shows the card but network lists unclaimed
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: Unity?
[16:21] <thunder1212> sacarlson: yes, i agree with u on that ;)
[16:21] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: is there somewhere i have to tell it to use that card?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:21] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/
[16:21] <jack65> I get the word FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:21] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: I still have Gnome, I have LTS :)
[16:21] <michaeltaxon> hello
[16:22] <michaeltaxon> can someone tell me how to burn iso image in k3b?
[16:22] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so plz tell me how to configure the hp printer thats misbehaving on 10.04 lts and working properly on 11.04..
[16:22] <michaeltaxon> i keep gettin errors
[16:22] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: oh you could reload the driver to see if it will load now.  sometimes it's a sequence thing
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so Unity uses Gnome as the DE still
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: do you use compiz?
[16:22] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, but it's really simple game, Mana World has absolutely no problems
[16:22] <michaeltaxon>  I need to burn an iso image in k3b...can someone help me? i keep getting an error - code 255
[16:23] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: what happens is that several drivers are tried on the same device and puts it into a strange state and sometimes a reload after boot will get it working
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do other burners run ok? Are you using KDE?
[16:23] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: how do i reload the driver?
[16:23] <michaeltaxon> im usim using k3b
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: are there any bugs reported?
[16:23] <michaeltaxon> and what do you mean by other burners?
[16:24] <michaeltaxon> the only burning software i used is k3b
[16:24] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: No, that's the wierd part :(
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: is your DESKTOP KDE, or are you using Unity/Gnome etc?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: I'd report a bug
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: are you using Unity?
[16:25] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: OK... Can you tell me how can I run something uder Wine as root?
[16:25] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: what I think you do is remove the module rmmod and then modprobe  to reinstall it
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: why does it need root?
[16:25] <RayzrShrp> lsmod
[16:25] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: Just patch on a higher version
[16:25] <Guest415> Hi. I have ubuntu 11.10. And I need to add debian ppas. And what debian's codename i should use?
[16:26] <michaeltaxon> no
[16:26] <joubin> Hey, does anyone know what modle acer is on ubuntus home page
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: change your directory to where the app is stored and run: wine filename.exe
[16:26] <michaeltaxon> im using kubuntu
[16:26] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you :)
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: I'm VERY doubtful it will need rott, as the only files you will edit are the ones in your users home
[16:27] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: there is also insmod see http://linux.die.net/man/8/insmod  for the list of others
[16:27] <MangledBody> ActionParsnip: OK :)
[16:27] <MangledBody> Bye
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> MangledBody: so you don't need root access there as you have full access to your own daat
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> ah well
[16:28] <wylde> everyone wants to run as root. Even if/when you convince them they don't need to, they want to abuse sudo! >.<   </rant>  </ot>
[16:29] <kevin__> Hi just jumped over from mint 10 to 11.10 see what it's like
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: no bad thing :)
[16:30] <kevin__> seems OK to me :-)
[16:30] <thunder1212> sacarlson: how do you update to the latest software on 10.04 lts version
[16:30] <netbus> kevin__: they both have their perks, eh?
[16:30] <kevin__> don't know anybody yet on this Xchat give me time jajaja
[16:31] <sacarlson> thunder1212: all the software?  you can pick and chose what is avalable to update in synaptic
[16:31] <wylde> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:31] <kevin__> only thing I have found that does not work so far is kdenlive
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome etc, or are you using KDE?
[16:31] <kevin__> but I will use another one like shotwelll
[16:33] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i know that, th e automatic updates are on ... not that i mean there are new version coming in ubuntu every 6 months and there the softwares are more upto date in their repos..
[16:33] <thunder1212> wylde: tnks but i dont want to upgrade
[16:33] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, you'll find that unity, especially in 12.04 is becoming a really polished and unified experience, that's really solid
[16:34] <sacarlson> thunder1212: there are other updates that happen at random times to random applications in the ppa repositories
[16:34] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, I am using gnome 11.10
[16:34] <sacarlson> thunder1212: for that you need to know what you want to update to find them
[16:34] <kevin__> ubuntu sorry
[16:34] <wylde> thunder1212: that "upgrades" the packages, it doesn't upgrade you out of 10.04
[16:34] <wylde> thunder1212:  you'd have to use dist-upgrade for that
[16:34] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, yeah I know, just sayin unity is getting better and better, especially in 12.04
[16:35] <thunder1212> wylde: okkk
[16:35] <kevin__> aha
[16:35] <jack65> that plugin in Ubuntu 11.10 is necessary to see this link: http://musicaearte.altervista.org/
[16:35] <jack65> I get the word   FIND A SUITABLE PLUGIN
[16:35] <DropsOfSerenity> kevin__, and as an old kde 3.5 then gnome 2.6 fan, I now use unity all day every day, for work and play, and I love it, and this is coming from someone who used gentoo for the better part of 3 years, using minimalist *box and xmonad desktops
[16:35] <kevin__> Is this a general chat channel as in Mint julia they get very upset if you use general talk
[16:36] <bazhang> kevin__, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> jack65: I get text/html plugin   in chromium
[16:36] <DropsOfSerenity> you go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <kevin__> it must only be help topics
[16:36] <wylde> kevin__: yep, this is the support channel
[16:36] <jack65> ActionParsnip,    yes
[16:36] <kevin__> OK, getting to know my way around this channel
[16:37] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ok take this eg of hp printer that i have ubuntu 10.04 after upgrade and updates doesn't recognize it but 11.04 easily identifies it ..
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> jack65: seems to need gecko-mediaplayer   source: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1679013.html
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[16:38] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, you have tried a fair few distros then :-)
[16:40] <sacarlson> thunder1212: that's not much info to work from as you didn't specify what printer it is but here is an example http://askubuntu.com/questions/43088/how-to-install-printer-driver-for-hp-deskjet-1000-j110
[16:40] <kevin__> DropsOfSerenity, so you say about 12.04. Am I missing out on something here using the 11.10 ?, it is very stable but seems a bit to easy to use changing from Mint 10
[16:41] <dms3310> ip
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: precise is just the next release of ubuntu and it LTS (5 years support)
[16:41] <dms3310> can i get ip?
[16:41] <auronandace> kevin__: feel free to test 12.04, any issues in #ubuntu+1 until its released
[16:42] <compdoc> you can have my ip
[16:42] <andyxtreme> hello
[16:42] <andyxtreme> i have a question about gnome 3
[16:42] <kevin__> do you guys have any links to the iso, i will give it a whirl
[16:43] <wylde> !ask | andyxtreme
[16:43] <pengemis> anybody know how to find apparmor 2.4 compatibility patch? i'm using maveric with kernel 3.1.3
[16:43] <thunder1212> sacarlson: i have hp deskjet ink advantage k109g printer and i also did an install from the driver downloaded fro hplip opensource site.. and though the install was a success it still did not print and there is no error also.. just says the print job completed successfully,,
[16:45] <auronandace> pengemis: using a custom kernel for 10.10 isn't really supported here, plus 10.10 is end of life this month, consider updating
[16:45] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: removing the module and readding didnt help
[16:46] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: maybe the card is just bad
[16:46] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: any error seen when they are reloaded?
[16:46] <jack65> ActionParsnip,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer      http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gecko-mediaplayer,  ( files that use i386  ???  )
[16:46] <RayzrShrp> sacarlson: just that error 5 on probe
[16:46] <andyxtreme> I installed ubuntu 12.04 on VMWare Player and i chose to start with GNOME interface(not GNOME classic). I heard 12.04 comes with GNOME 3.4 but it doesn't look like in the screenshots on the GNOME website, it looks like the classic. Am i missing something?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> jack65: just went to http://musicaearte.altervista.org/index.php/component/content/article/55   and got audio....
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> andyxtreme: askk in #ubuntu+1 for Precise issues
[16:46] <auronandace> !12.04 | andyxtreme
[16:46] <sacarlson> RayzrShrp: I guess you would have to look at the source code to determine what a code -5 is
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> andyxtreme: Precise uses Unity by default, not Gnome-shell but it can be installed
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> jack65: I did run:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-radio-browser      noy sure if it helped
[16:48] <pengemis> auronandace, just asking if somebody know how to patch it, i have complicated conditions that force me to not upgrade :)
[16:48] <jack65> ActionParsnip,    ok now I feel
[16:49] <auronandace> pengemis: i hope one of those complicated conditions isn't your dislike of unity (there are alternatives)
[16:50] <kevin__> launcher Icon size, that's handy !
[16:50] <Descriptioned> kevin__ : yes i agree that's handy ;)
[16:52] <pengemis> auronandace, LOL unity take first place! and also my old gpu (nvidia fx 5600), anyway, can you show me what is an alternatives? but i don't like gnome fallback, that's look weird
[16:52] <OysterCult> running natty here and if i upgrade to 11.10 how much more memory does it take to run 11.10 and will 11.04 be uninstalled?
[16:53] <auronandace> pengemis: kde, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[16:53] <jack65> ActionParsnip,        is still            I get text/html plugin   in chromium
[16:53] <sacarlson> thunder1212: I don't see any direct support for that k109g printer close as I find is k109a http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_ink_advant_k109a-z.html
[16:53] <wylde> pengemis: xfce with a bit of time spent tweaking can be made to look/feel like gnome2
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> pengemis: +1 for LXDE :)
[16:56] <thunder1212> sacarlson: so what next.. to do
[16:56] <tomodo> hello
[16:57] <tomodo> I wanted to install wine on my 64 bit ubuntu install and this happens http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=C61WkGUz
[16:57] <tomodo> can anyone give me some advice what to do about it?
[16:57] <sacarlson> thunder1212: so is that the driver you installed?
[16:58] <auronandace> pengemis: if you absolutely must have gnome2 then at the very least move to 11.04, it will be supported for a little longer (but in the end you will need to move away from gnome2 because it is dead (unless mate is supported by ubuntu by then))
[16:58] <Dr_willis>  tomodo  tell it to install? or was there something more specific...
[16:58] <danny> pretty much none of my browesers video players work and they did before
[16:58] <compdoc> tomodo, whats wrong with that?
[16:58] <danny> how do i fix this
[16:58] <tomodo> I'm worried about the 32 bit libs
[16:58] <compdoc> fix what?
[16:58] <tomodo> what if I remove my system
[16:58] <tomodo> by accident
[16:59] <Dr_willis> 32bit libs are needed i belive for wine to work properly
[16:59] <tomodo> ok
[16:59] <compdoc> tomodo, first I would do what it says. Run:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:59] <tomodo> thanks you guys
[16:59] <tomodo> oh
[16:59] <tomodo> should I do that?
[16:59] <tomodo> what I remove something important
[17:00] <compdoc> that will stop the error at the top of that list
[17:00] <tomodo> I already pressed yes to install
[17:00] <Dr_willis> someday you want to use autoremove to clean out unneeded stuff
[17:00] <compdoc> thats ok - those unneeded packages will still be there
[17:00] <compdoc> run it after
[17:00] <pengemis> auronandace, hmm, right, 11.04
[17:01] <auronandace> pengemis: better to bite the bullet now and switch to a better desktop environment
[17:01] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no i downloaded the latest version from the hplip website and yes it was for the k109a- http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html(Download HPLIP 3.12.2:)
[17:01] <scarykitties> Hello!
[17:01] <eye-gor> tomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.
[17:02] <scarykitties> i'm having some trouble attempting to install Ubuntu for the first time.
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: this is multi arch at work
[17:02] <gadien> haven't we all...
[17:02] <tomodo> ok
[17:02] <tomodo> I hope it's safe
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomaw: it is
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: it is
[17:02] <tomodo> it's doing a lot of
[17:02] <tomodo> Selecting previously deselected package lib32ncurses5.
[17:02] <eye-gor> tomodo: dont worry
[17:02] <gadien> scarykitties, whats the problem
[17:03] <Dr_willis> windows has trained him to be shy of information about what the pc is doing.... ;)
[17:03] <compdoc> scarykitties, are you trying to dual boot some other OS too?
[17:03] <scarykitties> Basically, I've tried multiple times to burn ubuntu to a DVD+R (from an ISO gotten from the torrent available on the Ubuntu website for desktop 32-bit of the latest version) and it verifies fine, but when I try to verify the disk on an installing computer, I always get "Error found in 1 files"
[17:03] <scarykitties> No, compdoc; I want a fresh install.
[17:03] <compdoc> which file is bad?
[17:04] <scarykitties> It doesn't say
[17:04] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  burning the cd iso to a dvd? or the dvd iso?
[17:04] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[17:04] <sacarlson> thunder1212: then you must have followed these instructions? http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: tried a different CD brand? Are you burning as slowly as possible?
[17:04] <gadien> scarykitties, does your pc support booting from usb?
[17:04] <scarykitties> Burning the iso to a DVD. I'm not aware of any distinction between a CD and a DVD iso
[17:04] <scarykitties> Yes, ActionParsnip
[17:04] <scarykitties> And these DVDs should be fine; I've burned other stuff on them with success in the past
[17:04] <compdoc> scarykitties, I think all you need is a CD
[17:05] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  the default is a cd iso.  try it on a cd.. or try puttig it on a usb stick
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: tried USB?
[17:05] <scarykitties> I'm not sure if my DVDs are always getting screwed up while burning, if this is some kind of Ubuntu bug (GOogle gets a few hits about this "bug", but with older versions, like 8 and 9), if my DVD-Drive on the computer is screwing things up somehow, or if my HDD is bad.
[17:05] <Dr_willis> !md5
[17:05] <thunder1212> sacarlson: yesss
[17:05] <dv310p3r> I'm in ubuntu 10.10. Can I upgrade to the latest kernel 3.2?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you will need the DVD ISO to burn to DVD
[17:05] <esuave> so i got a question.. if someone is editing the same crontab for the same user at the same time.. is there a way to prevent one person from overwriting the other?!
[17:05] <scarykitties> Where can I get that, Action?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> !download
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: yes but your OS will not be supported here
[17:05] <sacarlson> thunder1212: sounds like you must have done it correct then,  I'm out of ideas
[17:05] <pengemis> auronandace, i just thinking to migrate to debian now.. lol
[17:05] <scarykitties> Since when has different ISOs been required for CDs vs DVDs?
[17:06] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, ok, but I'll be able to still run my current version of Gnome?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[17:06] <danny> and pandora doesnt load does anyone know why i cant use my browser to wacth videos and if u need more information what would u like me to tell you they just dont loud i either get a sry pandora is taking to long to loud or on another website the video will just be black
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: there is a guide how to make 12.04/11.10 Gnome look like Gnome2
[17:06] <scarykitties> Thanks, AP. But why should it not work on a DVD?
[17:06] <scarykitties> An ISO is an ISO, isn't it?
[17:06] <auronandace> pengemis: you will need to face the fact at some point that gnome2 will not be around forever
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: different data afaik
[17:06] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  no.. :)
[17:06] <scarykitties> Also, have that in torrent, perchance?
[17:06] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
[17:06] <eye-gor> scarykitties: the dvd iso is a lot bigger and contains more stuff
[17:06] <scarykitties> Hm, alright...
[17:06] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, I've seen it, but it's lacking majorly. The classic or fallback mode is missing stuff and it's just not the same. It doesn't feel the same.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[17:07] <netbus> danny: do you have flash installed??
[17:07] <scarykitties> THanks much
[17:07] <Dr_willis> You really dont need the dvd at all scarykitties .  the cd is smaller and can byurn to a cd disk
[17:07] <esuave> how can i make it to where only 1 person at a time can edit the crontab for a user?
[17:07] <gadien> scarykitties, i had a problem where i could'nt install cause i had NO cd drive, I DL'd the .iso file (latest-stable) DL'd LiLi (Linux Live) then the rest is self explainatory
[17:07] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  usb installs are the way to go. :) faster.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: I assume youo want 32bit
[17:07] <scarykitties> Yes, A
[17:07] <scarykitties> *AP
[17:07] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, anyhow, thanks.
[17:07] <danny> netbus, is that included in ubuntu restricted extras?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> dv310p3r: then jump to xfce, it runs a lot like gnome2
[17:07] <scarykitties> Since 64-bit apparently lacks a lot of supported features.
[17:07] <scarykitties> There's a chance it is my DVD drive, though
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: never had an issue
[17:08] <scarykitties> Since just before this, I was trying to install the Windows 8 beta (as a free OS I could use for now)
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  it does? never noticed 64bit lacking any supported features here.. its all i use.
[17:08] <dv310p3r> ActionParsnip, I believe that may be the route I'm heading. Was just looking for options.
[17:08] <scarykitties> And it had issues installing.
[17:08] <compdoc> scarykitties, drives do go bad, but try the right media first
[17:08] <netbus> danny; i don't rememember.  personally, i'd go straight to adobe, adobe.com/flash and download the latest flash player deb straight from their website.
[17:08] <pengemis> auronandace, actually, i don't really mind about gnome2, but my old gpu didn't support unity (yet-maybe)
[17:08] <scarykitties> Didn't someone just say that there are features only the 32-bit version has?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  not that i noticed...
[17:08] <pengemis> unity3d*
[17:08] <eye-gor> scarykitties: if the md5sum checks out then it's a bad burn. I used to use cdrw's before I switched ti usb stick
[17:08] <angs> what is the command to disable hardware check in the startup process?
 tomodo: if you want wine you'll need to 32 bit libs.
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  some apps like wine, use the 32-64bit compatability libs.
[17:08] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  thats not missing any features.. that IS a feature.
[17:08] <scarykitties> Ah, I see.
[17:09] <io> !repeat | angs
[17:09] <scarykitties> Well, I'll start with 32-bit regardless
[17:09] <scarykitties> I presume that 32-bit Ubuntu is still limited to 4Gb, just like 32-bit Windows is?
[17:09] <scarykitties> 4Gb of RAM, that is
[17:09] <Dr_willis> !pae
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you can use PAE and access up to 64Gb in 43bit OS
[17:09] <esuave> aonyone?
[17:09] <scarykitties> Hm, alright.
[17:09] <auronandace> pengemis: can't really help you with that, i don't use unity and my nvidia is more recent than yours (but you could use unity2d with that card)
[17:09] <danny> netbus, can u help me find a link cause i cant find a link to download a deb
[17:09] <scarykitties> Question...
[17:09] <scarykitties> How do I learn all this stuff about Ubuntu coming in?
[17:09] <eye-gor> scarykitties: is it a 32 bit machine or 64 bit
[17:10] <scarykitties> 64 bit machine
[17:10] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  read read and more reading. :)
[17:10] <scarykitties> Do I need to rely on IRC to learn how to do even most basic things?
[17:10] <danny> netbus, and i use the chrome browser
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> esuave: you could change the ownerships to the user and no write access for any other user.
[17:10] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  err.. theres 1000's of web sites out with guides and docs...
[17:10] <bazhang> !manual | scarykitties
[17:10] <eye-gor> scarykitties: then get the 64 bit edition. from 12.04 it will be the recommended version
[17:10] <bazhang> !rute | scarykitties
[17:10] <netbus> danny: if you're using chrome, that's a different story.
[17:10] <thunder1212> sacarlson: this is very annoying.. thanks for all the help!! may be i will have to upgrade the distro.. the system does'nt have any data but there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..
[17:10] <scarykitties> Thanks.
[17:10] <wylde> scarykitties: noope, there are tons of tutorials, forums and blogs to read :)
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: just use the OS, as you play you will learn
[17:11] <esuave> ActionParsnip: well its the same user.. multiple people are logging on to the same user and editing the crontab
[17:11] <ablyss> not all irc are equal
[17:11] <netbus> danny: on the windows and osx chrome programs, flash is automatically maintained and updated by the browser
[17:11] <io> scarykitties: take a look at: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[17:11] <bazhang> scarykitties, those would be good places to start; also askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums
[17:11] <gadien> scarykitties,  yes. IRC  is a good start
[17:11] <scarykitties> While I'm new as well, this is actually intended for my completely computer-illiterate father.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> esuave: then give them their own accounts
[17:11] <netbus> danny: it automatically updates the flash for you so..i'm not sure why your video isn't working.
[17:11] <xangua> netbus: so does google chrome for linux
[17:11] <danny> netbus, that means i just have to wait for an update :(
[17:11] <danny> netbus, works fine on windows
[17:11] <xangua> netbus: or were you refering to chromium¿
[17:11] <scarykitties> I've heard Ubuntu touted as "super easy to use"
[17:11] <netbus> danny: not necessarily, it could mean there's a setting or something that's not on
[17:11] <scarykitties> I'm dubious of that, but I'll give it a shot.
[17:11] <netbus> xangua: chrome by google
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: it is for the most part
[17:12] <wylde> scarykitties: I got my computer illiterate aunt on Ubuntu about 6 months ago, she loves it :)
[17:12] <scarykitties> Last time I tried Ubuntu, I gave up after I couldn't figure out how to even install programs.
[17:12] <esuave> ActionParsnip: they have their own accounts.. but everyone needs access to this one crontab since it has all processes in there.
[17:12] <danny> netbus, ok any idea were i should look im in preferences rigt now
[17:12] <netbus> danny: you could try installing flash for another browser, like firefox,
[17:12] <pengemis> auronandace, right, but example, we can't change font dpi in ubuntu with unity. i really need that to comfort my self when working with code
[17:12] <scarykitties> Granted, that was 4+ years ago
[17:12] <io> scarykitties: 'Software Centre' or use Terminal
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: software centre is for installing apps, in the past it was synaptic
[17:12] <netbus> danny : get.adobe.com/flashplayer
[17:12] <llutz> esuave: have you ever tried what happens if you open several "crontab -e" and save?
[17:12] <esuave> ActionParsnip: is there not a way to lock the crontab file if someone is editing?
[17:12] <eye-gor> scarykitties: we got the software centre now  - select app the install simples
[17:12] <scarykitties> Problem with Terminal is that you need to know what to type, and i don't.
[17:12] <scarykitties> So it's pretty useless to me
[17:12] <danny> netbus, so i have to swicth browesers ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> esuave: I believe the OS does that with a semaphone
[17:12] <esuave> llutz: yes.. it just lets people edit all at the same time
[17:12] <eye-gor> scDont need terminal now
[17:12] <io> scarykitties: also remember that the people here were not born using Ubuntu - everyone started somewhere
[17:13] <netbus> danny: no, you shouldn't have to switch browsers. im just trying to trouble shoot.
[17:13] <llutz> esuave: yes, but not save
[17:13] <netbus> danny: do you have all the latest updates/packages from the update manager?
[17:13] <auronandace> pengemis: i don't know how to change font dpi, but i'm not suprised if it isn't available in unity yet (i prefer xfce)
[17:13] <esuave> llutz: one person saves.. than the other saves overwriting any changes the 1st person made
[17:13] <llutz> esuave: it will warn if something changed inbetween
[17:13] <compdoc> I was born using a C64
[17:13] <esuave> llutz: it doesnt warn me? :/
[17:13] <danny> ok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm
[17:13] <scarykitties> I've used Windows basically all my life.
[17:13] <eye-gor> scarykitties: you can browse the software centre on line here. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-browse-the-ubuntu-software-centre-online/
[17:14] <scarykitties> No reason to switch because all the programs I use are for Windows natively.
[17:14] <wylde> scarykitties: it's worth getting to know the more common command line tools at least. If you're on IRC looking for support you'll likely get a few thrown at you anyway :)
[17:14] <danny> netbus, ok what shoudl i dowload the yum the tar.gz or the rpm
[17:14] <ablyss> esuave, cron first loads the file to memory and after about 5 seconds does it actually write to file
[17:14] <io> scarykitties: so why are you here? :-)
[17:14] <scarykitties> I'm just not interested in buying a 100-dollar OS for someone (my dad) who won't use it for anytihng but web
[17:14] <eye-gor> scarykitties: terminal not needed for installing apps
[17:14] <danny> netbus, and yes i have been checking updates daily since this has happened
[17:14] <atpa8a> hello
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: eactly, thats why I use Linux
[17:14] <llutz> esuave: can't tell for *buntu, but on my debian systems you'll get a warning
[17:14] <atpa8a> kinda basic ubuntu question i guess... http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration has both auto and allow-hotplug stanzas
[17:14] <atpa8a> is that common?
[17:14] <OysterCult> is Natty running GNOME or KDE?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: both
[17:15] <scarykitties> If Microsoft had a more reasonable pay scale for Windows, I'd stick with Windows
[17:15] <auronandace> OysterCult: by default unity, but you can use whatever desktop is in the repo
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: natty can run KDE in Kubuntu (by default) or Gnome in Ubuntu (by default)
[17:15] <scarykitties> It's crazy, but Windows XP pro still costs 250+ dollars. Windows 98 costs 100 dollars.
[17:15] <thunder1212> sacarlson: any permanant solutions to my previous issue of black screen
[17:15] <scarykitties> Absolutely ridiculous.
[17:15] <pengemis> auronandace, okay... maybe i need switch to another desktop environments, well thanks for the help :)
[17:15] <eye-gor> scarykitties: have a look here. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[17:15] <io> scarykitties: that's why you're here, and there's Ubuntu ;-)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> scarykitties: you can get 98 mini which boots fast and it quite cheap
[17:15] <jeek> ONLY web?
[17:16] <jeek> Try xpud :D
[17:16] <auronandace> pengemis: no worries, don't worry, you aren't the only one who hates unity :)
[17:16] <esuave> llutz: right.. so the problem is.. i log on to the user on the box.. open the crontab and edit something.. while im editing, someone else hops on the same machine using the same user and edits the crontab...  i finish my changes.. and save the file.. but the other person still has the old crontab, makes his changes.. and overwrites my changes.
[17:16] <scarykitties> Yup, io.
[17:16] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[17:16] <scarykitties> Thanks, eye-gor
[17:16] <andybooth> BYE
[17:16] <OysterCult> thanks
[17:17] <OysterCult> so can I switch between the two and see what i like?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeek: fun isn't it ;)
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: absolutely
[17:17] <OysterCult> how can i do that/
[17:17] <jeek> AP: ?
[17:17] <OysterCult> ?
[17:17] <bazhang> OysterCult, sure. any of them kde4, gnome, xfce4, lxde/openbox etc
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> OysterCult: you choose at login
[17:17] <scarykitties> I understand the hate for Microsoft. Their price demands are ridiculous.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeek: xpud
[17:17] <scarykitties> Though I still dislike Apple more.
[17:17] <ablyss> esuave, kind of pointless to have multiple users for single user account
[17:17] <bazhang> !ot | scarykitties
[17:18] <scarykitties> Oh, sorry!
[17:18] <scarykitties> I'll stick around for the inevitable questions that will come. Thank you guys!
[17:19] <esuave> ablyss: i agree.. but having one central crontab allows us to dump all of our processes in there and know which ones are actually running.. if we allow other users to create their own cron, we wont know or can change what they are running in their cron
[17:19] <esuave> ablyss: unless your root..
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> esuave: or use sudo.
[17:20] <ablyss> esuave, what you need is to write to
[17:20] <llutz> esuave: workaround: use an editor which uses internal file locking, like emacs.
[17:20] <esuave> ActionParsnip: yeah but than we have to look in 10 different users crontabs to find running processes?
[17:21] <ablyss> separate files and merge them into one cron
[17:21] <esuave> llutz: hmm.. interesting.. i will look at that
[17:24] <thunder1212> sacarlson: ??
[17:25] <michaeltaxon> hello, im trying to burn an iso image using k3b and im having all kinds of problems
[17:25] <michaeltaxon> can someone please help me?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: do you use Unity/Gnome as the desktop or do you use KDE
[17:26] <michaeltaxon> kde
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: ok let me search
[17:27] <llutz> michaeltaxon: mind to tell us, what "all kinds of problems" mean?
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> i tried all these settings
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> you know
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> it didnt work for me
[17:27] <llutz> no
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> im trying to burn iso image
[17:27] <llutz> !details
[17:27] <FloodBot1> michaeltaxon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> if i get specific i'd be flooding
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> so ill talk to you in main
[17:27] <michaeltaxon> in pvt
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: if you install xfburn does it threaten to install a tonne of GTK libs?
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> i havent installed xfburn
[17:29] <llutz> !pm | michaeltaxon ask your question in channel, give full details using full sentences and full lines. (i don't read PMs)
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> oh my god
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: try, if it doesn't install a lot of deps, try it and see if it's better.
[17:29] <michaeltaxon> forget talking in main, ill try to find someone else
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> michaeltaxon: not noticed a pattern yet with PMing.....
[17:30] <Aufwind> If I try to ssh my computer from an other machine. It works only if I fired up Firestarter before and stoped the firewall. How can I tell my Firewall to accept ssh logins from other machines?
[17:30] <Aufwind> Without stoping the firewall?
[17:30] <Aufwind> Manually?
[17:30] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: there is one problem in that.. when i run ubuntu 11.04 i get a black screen on the laptop (on which i have to install the printer.) only when i run with nomodeset=1 from the initial boot menu .. the f6 option if u can recall then only i can see things on the laptopbut its in low graphics..
[17:31] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: any permant solution to the black screen
[17:32] <llutz> Aufwind: add a rule allowing ssh/port 22 incoming
[17:33] <Aufwind> llutz, does the firewall restart automatically after each reboot, even when I disabled it before reboot?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: what GPU do you use?
[17:34] <llutz> Aufwind: idk, i never used this
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: add a rule to allow port 22/TCP
[17:34] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: intel gma4500
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: are you fully updated?
[17:35] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: u mean i install ubuntu 11.04 and then do an update??
[17:35] <llutz> Aufwind: but if your "firewall" doesn't do what you want it to do, i'd remove it. it makes no sense to have it then
[17:35] <llutz> Aufwind: get an iptables tutorial, write your rules, be fine
[17:35] <MarKsaitis> so can somebody help me? Or nobody knows a solution? I have vnc4server (tried tightvncserver too) installed, using hidden virtual desktops (the default). When I click logoff in my session, IT DOESNT DO A DAMN THING, DOESNT LOGOFF! FTW? Ubuntu 11.04 LXDE!!!
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: yes install the OS then get full updates, may help
[17:36] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, How can I disable the firewall permanentely?
[17:36] <Aufwind> llutz, Thank you!
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: you could wipe out the rules you added.
[17:36] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, There is none. :-)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: which firewall do you use?
[17:38] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, I just started the guy "Firestarter".
[17:38] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, How can I tell which firewall is underneath?
[17:38] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: but how do i install with a black screen when i can't see anything..
[17:38] <llutz> Aufwind: all those GUIs are using iptables at the end
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | thunder1212
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: I believe it's iptables
[17:39] <llutz> Aufwind: so better to get an idea how to use iptables directly and write a rule-set fitting your needs. http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/security/iptables1.html
[17:40] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: ok will try that thanks!!
[17:40] <thunder1212> bye..
[17:40] <Aufwind> llutz, Thanks for the links.
[17:40] <angs> does anybody know how to disable hardware check on ubuntu in the startup process?
[17:40] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Does anybody know how to stop automatic hardware checking on Ubuntu?
[17:40] <bekks> Tasmania_Ubuntu: Huh?
[17:41] <bekks> Tasmania_Ubuntu: You mean "how to stop udev?"
[17:41] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, llutz I can handle commandline and such quite well, but when it comes to configuration of my machine I am afraid to mess things up. ^^
[17:41] <bekks> You dont want udev to be stopped :)
[17:41] <wylde> Aufwind: make a backup beofre editing :)
[17:41] <angs> I dont want ubuntu to check if I have monitor
[17:42] <angs> because I dont have:)
[17:42] <Aufwind> llutz, ActionParsnip I tried setting a rule. And it seems to work. I'll let the firewall be since I can ssh from other machines now. Thank you both for the advice. Appreciated it very much!
[17:42] <angs> but ubuntu gives an error and says that I dont have monitor
[17:42] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> If I insert a USB into my computer it automatically checks the USB to see if it's in good condition before it puts it into use.
[17:42] <bekks> angs: Which error exactly?
[17:42] <Aufwind> wylde, That sounds like a good and trivial plan. I wonder why I have the idea, when I try to "quickly edit something". :D
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Aufwind: run:  sudo iptables -L      does it output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916319/
[17:43] <wylde> Aufwind: I learned the backup lesson the hard way :)
[17:43] <wook> hello folks, where to find good howto for editing /sbin/preinit
[17:43] <wook> ?
[17:43] <angs> I dont have monitor now. the error was about "low graphic card" or something like this, I borrowed a monitor then restarted the pc, now I use teamviewer to control the ubuntu
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !info preinit
[17:44] <bekks> angs: Thats an error occuring when the monitor connected isnt capable of the graphics mode you wanted. Thats all.
[17:44] <llutz> Aufwind: i'd take something like http://www.mista.nu/iptables/ to get a simple basic iptables-ruleset. then try to understand what it does and add you own rules.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> angs: what do you do on the remote system?
[17:44] <bekks> angs: It doesnt stop Ubuntu from booting, loading, starting or functioning.
[17:44] <angs> I have windows7
[17:44] <angs> on the remote
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> angs: oic, so you control windows from Ubuntu?
[17:45] <angs> bekks: is it about BIOS or ubuntu?
[17:45] <bekks> angs: No.
[17:45] <Aufwind> llutz, This is great, thanks a lot for the link!!
[17:45] <llutz> Aufwind: during the tests , let a cron-job reset all rules ever xx minutes. if all works, remove cronjob and use iptables-save/restore
[17:45] <angs> yes I use teamviewer
[17:45] <bekks> angs: It's about the monitor not being capable of the desired graphics mode.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> angs: not used rdesktop then? Windows has remote accessibility built in...
[17:45] <angs> ActionParsnip: I didnt know it, thanks I will use it
[17:46] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, The printed list is much longer... But the entrys you pasted are among them.
[17:46] <bekks> Windows always have that...
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> angs: you just need to enable remote logins in the OS and you can use rdesktop. No need for extra sevrices on the windows side.
[17:46] <Aufwind> ActionParsnip, llutz My problem is solved. :-) thank you guys! I'll definitely have a look into iptables.
[17:47] <angs> <bekks: I get the error before connecting to the monitor, when the monitor is connected it works fine. however when there is no monitor, it doesnt work. I just wonder if there is any command/option that I can disable monitor checking in the start up?
[17:47] <llutz> Aufwind: better not to rely on any additional confusion layer, aka GUI :)
[17:47] <lesshaste> when I try to open a file in emacs I get "File exists :/dir/.emacs.d/"
[17:47] <lesshaste> what is going on?
[17:48] <eniltalF> Does anyone know if Gnome will be availible at all in 12.04?
[17:48] <bekks> angs: How do you see that error without a monitor connected?
[17:48] <Dr_willis>  eniltalF  gnome is in 12.04
[17:48] <wylde> eniltalF: Gnome3, Gnome2 is dead
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> eniltalF: Unity is a shell for Gnome, so it is already available
[17:48] <Andy2113> hey guys, I need some help. Last night my distro got super buggy. The screen got really messed up, it was all lines and nothing worked. (I'm on 11.04. Today I restarted my PC, and it isn't working properly. I had to access another version of Linux to be atle to type here
[17:49] <Andy2113> wtfff now I can't see anything I type/am typing
[17:49] <Andy2113> gahhhh someone please PM me, I can't seeee
[17:49] <eniltalF> Andy2331: Sounds like your video card is wonky.
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> can someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?
[17:50] <Guest69604> how do I install a  .tar.gz
[17:50] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Does anyone know why my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBoc (emulator), starts with the number "10" Instead of "192"?
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> can someone apart from actionparnsip and llutz advise me on another burning software to use other than K3B?
[17:50] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Guest69604, you need a archive manager.
[17:50] <michaeltaxon> in kubuntu
[17:50] <angs> ActionParsnip: I tried to use remote desktop connection on windows 7 to connect ubuntu, I allowed the remote desktop connection on ubuntu. however I can not connect ubuntu from windows. do I need to install something or what?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: the file could be source or binaries or something else. saying its a tar.gz tells use noting. Its just a compressed archive
[17:51] <eniltalF> tar -xvf <filename>
[17:51] <lesshaste> .emacs.d seems to be owned by root!
[17:51] <lesshaste> what is the directory for?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: what is the filename and where is it stored
[17:51] <Dr_willis> sounds like you ran emacs as root lesshaste ?
[17:51] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, hmm :)
[17:52] <Guest69604> ActionParsnip, easymp3gain
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> dr willis
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> hi again
[17:52] <michaeltaxon> please help me
[17:52] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, I think I used sudo incorrectly.. how can I log in as a normal user using sudo?
[17:52] <Zal> michaeltaxon, if k3b can't do it, probably nothing can.
[17:52] <Guest69604> angs, i use team viewer
[17:52] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  if you are root. use exit to un-sudo
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !info easymp3gain-gtk | Guest69604
[17:52] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, sure but how can I change to be some user using sudo?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> michaeljones,  theres dozens of iso burning tools in the repos.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: why did you not search software cetre before needlessly downloading stuff online...
[17:53] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  i use su,   to switch to a differnt user.
[17:53] <Dr_willis> !burn
[17:53] <llutz> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso
[17:53] <beandog> xfburn is pretty simple
[17:54] <zykotick9> llutz: +1 on growisofs.  michaeltaxon
[17:54] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, right.. but I want to use the root privs to do that without knowing the user's password
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> i love xfburn
[17:54] <Guest69604> ActionParsnip, I found it on How to geek never though to look
[17:54] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  never tried. Just root and my one user here. :)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest69604: use it for ANY installs, then start in the web
[17:54] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  check sudo man page perhaps.
[17:54] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, :)
[17:55] <skurcey> Hox caan i reboot and relunch mouse drivers please?
[17:55] <skurcey> how
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> skurcey: unload then reload the module driving it
[17:55] <Dr_willis> lesshaste,  with a user having an encrypted home. im not sure it can be done that way any more.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> skurcey: most likely psmouse
[17:55] <Oer> michaeltaxon, if you are burning 12.04 ... it does not fit a regular 700 mb cd-r
[17:55] <azertyu> hello there
[17:55] <azertyu> is it possible to cancel an chmod ?
[17:55] <lesshaste> Dr_willis, nothing encrypted here
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: ctrl+C
[17:55] <michaeltaxon> oer please elaborate
[17:56] <llutz> azertyu: undo you mean? no
[17:56] <Onkeltem> Hi all. How to make Chrome use sun java (not openjdk) on linux Ubuntu 11.10?
[17:56] <Oer> michaeltaxon, you need a 800 mb cd-r to burn .. or a dvd
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: sun don't own java, oracle does
[17:56] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: anyway, how?
[17:56] <azertyu> i mean
[17:56] <Dr_willis> !java
[17:56] <imb0red> Would anyone mind helping me out? ~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952981
[17:56] <azertyu> undo chmod permission
[17:57] <AaronDCampbell> I'm trying out https://github.com/abhinandh/py-cloudapp which is pretty nice.  The main problem is that the system tray icon doesn't show in unity.  Is this a problem with the app, or a problem with my unity config?
[17:57] <azertyu> possible ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: just symlink libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[17:57] <AaronDCampbell> The main reason I ask is that it was a pain to get the Skype icon to show and I still can't get the pidgin icon to show either
[17:57] <lesshaste> Dr_willis,  sudo -u user -i
[17:57] <azertyu> i just done chmod -R 777 /
[17:57] <azertyu> as root
[17:57] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Why is it that my inet address on my Ubuntu VirtualBox (emulator) starts with the number "10" instead of "192"?
[17:58] <azertyu> i would like to undo how oto do ?
[17:58] <llutz> azertyu: backup your personal stuff, reinstall. that is the easiest way
[17:58] <zykotick9> Tasmania_Ubuntu: NAT of VBox uses 10
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Tasmania_Ubuntu,  because vbox has its own private network. Check its docs/manual.
[17:58] <azertyu> why not possible to undo ?
[17:58] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> ahh ok.
[17:58] <Dr_willis> azertyu,  reinstall eveyr file that got changed...
[17:58] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Is it possible to login with putty?
[17:58] <zykotick9> azertyu: there is no "undo", your system is probably pretty broken...
[17:58] <scarykitties> Okay...
[17:58] <llutz> azertyu: theres no list of file/permission, so you have to "guess" what the correct permissions are.
[17:59] <scarykitties> I'm trying to install the DVD 32-bit version of Ubunt
[17:59] <scarykitties> *Ubuntu
[17:59] <scarykitties> I verified the disk; it's fine
[17:59] <scarykitties> I get errors, though.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: the permissions are complex, it will take AGE to get it right. It'll give a good OS if you reinstall
[17:59] <azertyu> that's one i know allready if i m here it is for new feature
[17:59] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: I don't understand. I have sun sun-java6-plugin installed, but Chrome doesn't see it - just openjdk (via IceTea)
[17:59] <scarykitties> For instance, early on, I get an I/O error that says it cannot write files to a disk
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: its not packaged now due to licensing
[17:59] <scarykitties> This is doing a clean install with everything being cleared out and going Ubuntu's default.
[17:59] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Is it possible to login to VirtualBox's private networks with putty?
[17:59] <scarykitties> I don't think it would be the HDD that is broken because the HDD worked mere hours ago.
[18:00] <wylde> scarykitties: is it stopping the install process or jusr complaining?
[18:00] <scarykitties> Is it probable that it is the DVD drive?
[18:00] <wylde> just*
[18:00] <scarykitties> It stops the process
[18:00] <zykotick9> Tasmania_Ubuntu: yes, but you might want to ask in #vbox
[18:00] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: I got the package, it was working week ago. Suddenly it stopped working and disappaered from chrome://plugins
[18:00] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> kk.
[18:00] <scarykitties> "The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk"
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: just symlink the .so to the plugins folder and you got it
[18:00] <scarykitties> Which certainly suggests an HDD problem, but the note says that it could be the DVD drive
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> Onkeltem: sounds like hax
[18:00] <scarykitties> And it's hard for me to believe that the HDD would just die all of a sudden.
[18:01] <Dr_willis> Tasmania_Ubuntu,  vbox machine works the same as a real machine plugged into the network.. the ip it gets depends on how you got vbox configured
[18:01] <wylde> scarykitties: do you have a usb stick handy? I have better luck with those than cd/dvd.
[18:01] <scarykitties> It was working with Windows 7 just 8 hours ago.
[18:01] <scarykitties> I do, wylde
[18:01] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  ive had HD's die while i was using them....
[18:01] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: but hdd do just die all of a sudden, thats how they go out
[18:01] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> I want to run putty on it though.
[18:01] <Dr_willis> clickclack-crash-dead
[18:01] <michaeltaxon> i really hate this channel
[18:01] <scarykitties> Does it require a working installation of Linux to work?
[18:01] <Tasmania_Ubuntu> Then leave.
[18:01] <AcidRain2012> this channel hates you
[18:01] <scarykitties> There is no clicking or crashing, Dr.
[18:01] <scarykitties> It's just not installing operating systems
[18:01] <scarykitties> But that could be the DVD drive.
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: what type of errors do you get when installing?
[18:02] <scarykitties> The DVD drive isn't particularly responsive--barely notices me hitting the button to eject the DVD
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> are you sure you are doing "install now" and not "try it out"
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[18:02] <scarykitties> The error is an Input/Output error
[18:02] <scarykitties> Yes, I am sure, Acid
[18:02] <wylde> scarykitties: boot into a live session, you can fsck the system HD from there and create a boot usb as well
[18:02] <Dr_willis> Io error = not good...
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> ouch
[18:02] <scarykitties> Let me try the live CD bit, then.
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> sounds like the drive is dead. lucky for you. ebay offers 2TB drives for like 100$ internal
[18:03] <mrintegr1ty> hi, does anyone know of a portable (for runners) heart rate monitor that works with ubuntu for downloading recorded data?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> !java | Onkeltem
[18:03] <wylde> !fsck | scarykitties
[18:03] <beaglebreath> anyone have a suggestion for a tutorial for connecting to this server via proxychains.  currently I've managed to install proxychains, and can use it from cli.  I've also got cap_sasl.pl script and can load it, and configure
[18:03] <beaglebreath>                       it.  Followed several howto's last night but I think I'm missing a step or
[18:04] <mrintegr1ty> beaglebreath: probably better off in #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <bazhang> beaglebreath, #freenode might
[18:04] <scarykitties> The "try without installing" option doesn't work either
[18:04] <scarykitties> Got the same I/O error
[18:04] <AcidRain2012> beaglebreath: proxies are hard to get ahold of now days i believe
[18:05] <bazhang> mrintegr1ty, pretty sure he meant irc server
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: i would take the drive out of your computer. and throw it against the wall. thats the only thing i know to do. if that dont make it work. then you need a new one
[18:05] <dackyshawn> however u can get a shell account and start your own proxy server
[18:05] <wylde> scarykitties: probably a bad burn or the optical drive is failing
[18:05] <AcidRain2012> hdd stop spinning when they fail. right? or at least sometimes they do
[18:05] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: sorry i just got here... you're having an I/O error?
[18:05] <scarykitties> I get the same error over and over
[18:06] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  normally.
[18:06] <scarykitties> I've tried burning the DVD 3+ times
[18:06] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: whats the error?
[18:06] <scarykitties> And always at a low speed and verify afterwrds
[18:06] <wylde> scarykitties: whenever you burn boot media to optical devices use the slowest speed possible. It really does prevent a lot of issues :)
[18:06] <scarykitties> And it always verifies 100%
[18:06] <scarykitties> And this time, I checked the DVD before attempting an install
[18:06] <scarykitties> And it checked out with no errors
[18:06] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: with that said then. i would listen to see if its spinning. you should be able to hear it
[18:06] <Dr_willis> id skip the optical drive totally and use a usb.
[18:06] <scarykitties> So as far as I can tell, the DVD is fine
[18:06] <scarykitties> It's spinning
[18:06] <AcidRain2012> also feel the vibration
[18:06] <wylde> scarykitties: ahh ok, what Dr_willis said :)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: I download the jre 1.7 tar.gz and extract it,copy the folder to /usrlib/jvm then run: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/bin/java 81; sudo update-alternatives --config java; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_03/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[18:06] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: what is the error?
[18:06] <scarykitties> But I can't do a USB install if I don't have a Linux distro running
[18:06] <dackyshawn> i had an I/O error as well
[18:06] <scarykitties> And the Try before you install isn't working
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Onkeltem: did mine today :)
[18:06] <dackyshawn> but managed to find a work around
[18:07] <scarykitties> I get an I/O error, ust liek when I try to install
[18:07] <scarykitties> *just like
[18:07] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: thank! I'll try the same
[18:07] <wylde> !unetbootin
[18:07] <wylde> !unetbootin | scarykitties
[18:07] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  you put the iso on the usb properly, then boot the usb.. im not sure what you mean.. therew windows tools to do the task.
[18:07] <Dr_willis> you can even image the iso to the usb with several tools.
[18:07] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: is that literrally all it says? I/O Error?
[18:08] <scarykitties> It says "files cannot be written to hard disk"
[18:08] <scarykitties> "input/output error"
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ah
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ok
[18:08] <scarykitties> "This error is likely caused by a faulty CD/DVD drive..."
[18:08] <scarykitties> "... but could be a faulty hard drive..."
[18:08] <scarykitties> etc. etc.
[18:08] <dackyshawn> not always
[18:08] <dackyshawn> what kind of computer scarykitties ?
[18:08] <scarykitties> That's what it says
[18:08] <scarykitties> Custom built
[18:08] <dackyshawn> how new is it?
[18:08] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: http://www.java.com/ru/download/ - here it offers to download 6  update 31 only...
[18:08] <scarykitties> The HDD drive was working not 8 hours ago with Windows 7
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ok what kind of motherboard are you using?
[18:08] <scarykitties> Then I tried installing Windows 8 and got errors while trying to install
[18:09] <scarykitties> So I gave up and now am trying Ubuntu
[18:09] <scarykitties> And again, errors
[18:09] <scarykitties> I haven't used the DVD drive in some time
[18:09] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: what kind of mobo is it
[18:09] <wylde> scarykitties: likely the dvd drive then
[18:09] <scarykitties> So the DVD drive seems the more likely culprit
[18:09] <scarykitties> Uh... T-Poewr, dacky.
[18:09] <dackyshawn> wylde not true... always sometimes it's the SATA mode in the bios
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> hardware issue
[18:09] <scarykitties> *T-Power
[18:09] <wylde> scarykitties: you can use unetbootin to put the iso on a usb
[18:09] <scarykitties> Mobo worked perfectly with Windows 7 hours ago.
[18:09] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: it's a setting
[18:09] <dackyshawn> i'm tring to get to
[18:10] <dackyshawn> win7 may work with different SATA settings than ubuntu
[18:10] <scarykitties> Hm. Okay, well, let me get into the BIOS
[18:10] <dackyshawn> like for example on my Dell i had it at one point set to ATA and tried to install ubuntu.. didnt work
[18:10] <mneptok> scarykitties: you might want to mg5sum whatever .iso you got
[18:10] <dackyshawn> only when i changed the sata mode to acpi it worked
[18:10] <mneptok> *md5sum
[18:10] <Dr_willis> ive seen similer issues dackyshawn .
[18:11] <scarykitties> SATA 1 is set to "Compatible"
[18:11] <scarykitties> It's not the iso, mneptok
[18:11] <scarykitties> I've tired 2 different ISOs
[18:11] <scarykitties> And verified them all each time
[18:11] <scarykitties> ANd they all check out
[18:11] <FloodBot1> scarykitties: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <scarykitties> It's unlikely that it's 3 broken ISOs in a row
[18:11] <Dr_willis> test the disk in a differnt pc. :)
[18:11] <scarykitties> I verified it in this PC
[18:11] <scarykitties> IT was fine
[18:12] <Dr_willis> then again. if you are burnign them on a broken optcical drive.. its hard to tell.
[18:12] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: check for bit versino
[18:12] <wylde> scarykitties: you could have already made and been booting a usb stick by now ;) hehe
[18:12] <Dr_willis> best answer - use a usb flash. get away from optical media.
[18:12] <scarykitties> Yeah, but if the optical drive was broken, why does it verify without errors against the iso?
[18:12] <mneptok> scarykitties: you say that without checking. maybe the .iso is fine, and it's something about the burn of it. too fast? broken optical media?
[18:12] <dackyshawn> or its the sata mode like i said
[18:13] <scarykitties> If it didn't burn right...
[18:13] <scarykitties> Why would it verify when I check it twice?
[18:13] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: did u look in the bios under the sata ports and see if there is a legacy mode or ACPI
[18:13] <scarykitties> There is an ACPI option, I believe
[18:13] <dackyshawn> ok try selecting that
[18:13] <scarykitties> Sorry, dacky. It's hard to keep up.
[18:13] <scarykitties> Kay
[18:13] <mneptok> scarykitties: you say you cannot boot to a Live session without these I/O errors, right?
[18:13] <dackyshawn> (i dunno if it's gonna ruin win7 tho)
[18:13] <dackyshawn> i mean u can change it back
[18:14] <Zal> MS already ruined Win7 ;)
[18:14] <dackyshawn> it wont hurt it that way, but it may not boot win7 ijn acpi
[18:14] <wisnia> who can help me with changing fonts in ubuntu?
[18:14] <scarykitties> SATA #1 was set to IDE
[18:14] <scarykitties> I set it to ACPI
[18:14] <scarykitties> I'll let you know what happens
[18:14] <scarykitties> That's fine, dacky; I'm installing over Win7
[18:14] <AcidRain2012> i have win7 dual booting with ubuntu. i hate that ubuntu can load, get on internet, and find what im looking for in the amount of time it takes me to load win7
[18:14] <scarykitties> Yes, mnep
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: use myunity
[18:14] <scarykitties> Can't boot to live CD without I/O errors
[18:15] <mneptok> scarykitties: it may be ACPI settings generally, but not being able to access a particular SATA device in general should not affect a Live session.
[18:16] <scarykitties> Does that point to HDD problems or DVD problems, then?
[18:16] <Onkeltem> ActionParsnip: where chrome plugins are located?
[18:16] <wylde> scarykitties: a live session doesn't even need a HD installed, so DVD
[18:16] <scarykitties> Phew, that's a relief.
[18:16] <wisnia> what is myunity?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[18:16] <scarykitties> I'd rather have the DVD be shot than the HDD
[18:16] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: to know for sure. i would take it out, put it in another computer, mount it. then try to format it to ext3. if that works. the drive is good
[18:16] <AcidRain2012> :)
[18:16] <scarykitties> Don't really have another computer to test it in
[18:16] <wisnia> oneiric
[18:17] <scarykitties> But I do have a DVD drive in an old computer I will try in this one if this SATA settings thing doesn't work out.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: look in the top right of the screen, little cog. System settings is there. May help
[18:17] <wylde> scarykitties: have you considered the usb option? You could have had it made and almost installed by now :)
[18:18] <AcidRain2012> ^ yep
[18:18] <wisnia> Action:no fonts changing option here
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wisnia: then install myunity and run it
[18:19] <AcidRain2012> wisnia: i would also suggest the gnome2 shell that runs over unity
[18:19] <Onkeltem> Does anybody know where Google Chrome plugins are located in Ubuntu?
[18:19] <scarykitties> I would rather install from DVD because 1. it's simpler and 2. It guarantees the DVD drives work
[18:20] <scarykitties> Hm
[18:20] <mneptok> Onkeltem: ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Extensions
[18:20] <scarykitties> On ACPI settings, this Ubuntu has been "loading" the install for 5-10 minutes
[18:20] <Onkeltem> nmodprime: _plugins_
[18:20] <scarykitties> So something's still not right.
[18:20] <Onkeltem> nmodprime: sorry
[18:20] <Onkeltem> mneptok: _plugins_
[18:21] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: do you actually have your dvd hooked up to the mobo by sata? ;)
[18:21] <AcidRain2012> i mean... you have to ask these things, never can be too sure
[18:21] <wylde> scarykitties: I get what you're saying, but doing the usb install will get you an ionstalled sytem that you can use to test the dvd drive.
[18:22] <scarykitties> Alright, I'll tr
[18:22] <scarykitties> *try
[18:22] <wylde> scarykitties: and it won't hurt the installed system at all if you do have to replace the dvd drive.
[18:22] <scarykitties> I'm trying to load the Live CD nonw
[18:22] <scarykitties> Because I need the Live CD to install from USB
[18:22] <scarykitties> Because my computer can't boot from a USB drive so far as I know
[18:22] <wylde> scarykitties: oh?
[18:23] <Dr_willis> and how old is this pc?
[18:23] <Zal> I can hardly remember the last time I installed from any removable media.
[18:23] <dosfronteras> hey guys havin a lot of issues with ubuntu, in recovery it says"Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init"
[18:23] <scarykitties> PC is maybe 2.5 years old
[18:23] <Dr_willis> i wonder what kind of pc can run windows7 and is so old it cant boot from usb.. :)
[18:24] <dackyshawn> really? and cant boot from USB?
[18:24] <Dr_willis> then again..make the usb and find out..
[18:24] <dosfronteras> also, when i try booting 2 ubu, it keeps restarting
[18:24] <scarykitties> Maybe it CAN boot from USB and I'm just pants-on-head retarded
[18:24] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: ACPI didnt work?
[18:24] <scarykitties> Always a possibility when we're talking about me
[18:24] <dackyshawn> toys in the attic.. you are crazy... truly gone fishing
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> dosfronteras: I suggest you run a memtest from the Grub menu....
[18:25] <scarykitties> Hold on, dacky. Still trying to determine that
[18:25] <dackyshawn> still??
[18:25] <dackyshawn> sheesh.. if you worked for me u'd be fired
[18:25] <dackyshawn> ;-)
[18:25] <dosfronteras> help plz? i have no clue how 2 do that
[18:25] <scarykitties> Live CD wants to know whether it should load a software package from a volume
[18:25] <dackyshawn> ummm
[18:25] <dackyshawn> i dunno
[18:25] <dackyshawn> no
[18:25] <dackyshawn> lol
[18:25] <scarykitties> No explanati on of what package from whta volume.
[18:25] <FloodBot1> dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <scarykitties> I said no
[18:25] <scarykitties> Now it's just on a blue screen with a mouse.
[18:25] <jeremiah_> why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?
[18:26] <dosfronteras> k running it..
[18:26] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: that sounds furthur than before
[18:26] <scarykitties> It is
[18:26] <scarykitties> But it's not doing anything so far
[18:26] <dackyshawn> strange that it needs a special package tho
[18:26] <dackyshawn> give it a sec u r running from CD
[18:26] <scarykitties> It may recognize that I'd half-installed Ubuntu
[18:26] <scarykitties> And it might be detecting stuff placed on the HDD and trying to run it.
[18:26] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: what other error did you get after the kernel panic? i just read on google that kernel panic is worse thing you can see from ubuntu while it is still operating
[18:26] <dackyshawn> shouldnt if u selected to run live cd without installing
[18:26] <mneptok> scarykitties: no.
[18:27] <scarykitties> Well, then maybe I should restart and try again?
[18:27] <scarykitties> Because it's been on this blue screen for about 5 minutes, now.
[18:27] <dackyshawn> maybe :-\
[18:27] <mneptok> scarykitties: patience.
[18:27] <scarykitties> I don't hear the DVD spinning up
[18:27] <dackyshawn> or select yes next time it asks about package
[18:27] <mneptok> scarykitties: can you move the mouse cursor?
[18:27] <dackyshawn> it loads into memory i believe
[18:27] <scarykitties> Yes, mneptok.
[18:27] <AcidRain2012> yes, it loads into memory
[18:27] <scarykitties> Hm. Well, it's got 8Gb of DDR800
[18:27] <joker404> hi I need 10$
[18:27] <dosfronteras> actionparsnip, why am i doing this? Ubu always resarts. that packages were broken etc. cant even boot up ubu anymore
[18:28] <mneptok> scarykitties: then it's not horribly frozen
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> joker404: what is your paypal? ill transfrer it over now
[18:28] <joker404> serious?
[18:28] <mneptok> !ot | joker404
[18:28] <mneptok> AcidRain2012: do not feed the troll.
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> mneptok: sry :(
[18:28] <PsyCl0ne> Afternoon everyone, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop that has both Win 7 and Debian. I wish to get rid of Debian but maintain my Windows 7 install. In the installer how would I got about this? I am also trying to install 12.04 beta 2.
[18:28] <dackyshawn> FEED ME
[18:28] <AcidRain2012> i cannot feed trolls
[18:29] <dackyshawn> !ot | PsyCl0ne
[18:29] <dackyshawn> PsyCl0ne: try #debian
[18:29] <dackyshawn> (if there is one)
[18:29] <mneptok> dackyshawn: what was that for?
[18:29] <scarykitties> Still nada, so I'm going to give restarting a shot.
[18:29] <scarykitties> It shouldn't take 10 minutes to load a Live CD
[18:30] <PsyCl0ne> why would I have to go to debian for ubuntu help?
[18:30] <AcidRain2012> PsyCl0ne: you should see these options. isnt the loaders for each os installed on that same partition?
[18:30] <jeremiah_> why does a file brake when i mark to install it in synaptic?
[18:30] <dackyshawn> my fault mneptok thought he was installing debian
[18:30] <dackyshawn> mis read
[18:30] <mneptok> PsyCl0ne: the Ubuntu installer will see the Linux partitions Debian created, and allow you to overwrite them
[18:30] <dackyshawn> haha
[18:30] <AcidRain2012> the win7 partition shouldnt be touched
[18:30] <dosfronteras> i have no idea what the memtest does :/
[18:30] <dackyshawn> sorry PsyCl0ne misread your question
[18:30] <dackyshawn> dosfronteras: tests your memory
[18:31] <Dremples> hi all :) I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive (perpetual) with FULL drive encryption, requiring a passphrase or key before it will boot etc
[18:31] <mneptok> Dremples: yes
[18:31] <dosfronteras> well yeah, but why am i doing it? was told 2 run it and dat was it.
[18:31] <mneptok> Dremples: get the -alternate installer, and use it to install to USB. create the LVM/dm-crypt partitions you want/need.
[18:32] <dosfronteras> how many tests does it do?
[18:33] <Dremples> mneptok: thanks for the fast response! ... I was meaning to encrypt the whole usb drive, with only the required boot partition unencrypted (so it boots ofc) hehe, is this what you're referring to?
[18:33] <llutz> dosfronteras: infinite, if you don't stop it
[18:33] <mneptok> dosfronteras: also, when you boot, get to the GRUB menu with <esc> and try running an older kernel.
[18:34] <zykotick9> mneptok: is dosfronteras running grub-legacy?
[18:34] <scarykitties> LiveCD worked this time
[18:34] <dosfronteras> tried. they keep me in a reboot cycle choosing the OS
[18:34] <scarykitties> What was the next step?
[18:34] <mneptok> Dremples: yes. you'll need swap space encrypted with a random seed, and / and whatever encrypted with a passphrase. and yes, /boot should always be unencrypted.
[18:34] <AcidRain2012> you know with ubuntu. it runs great if you do it right the first time and you never have a problem out of it again. but the second something goes wrong, it could be very bad
[18:35] <Dremples> mneptok: thankyou very much
[18:35] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: if it worked this time, and not every other time. and you did nothing different, then that sounds even more like the hdd has failed
[18:35] <codencrazy> I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install, the X graphical interface was working great, but the grub boot menu and virtual console was not, I'd get a monitor out of range error. I went and tried to change the gfx mode in `/etc/default/grub` based off a post from super-user, http://superuser.com/questions/66428/how-can-i-change-console-shells-resolution-in-ubuntu-9-10 and ran an `update-grub` and rebooted.
[18:35] <wylde> scarykitties:  yay! You can start the install from inside the live session if you want.
[18:35] <codencrazy> Everything in virtual console, all 6 sessions and GRUB, is working great now. But, now, X doesn't launch, when I hit ALT+CTRL+F7 everything looks ok, and it says `[OK]` all the way down the list. Any ideas?
[18:35] <scarykitties> I'll try it, wylde.
[18:35] <BobMarley> hi
[18:35] <bazhang> codencrazy, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[18:35] <scarykitties> Can i test the HDD somehow from this live version?
[18:35] <scarykitties> To see if it's bust or not?
[18:35] <BobMarley> what is the full path of the /var/logs  ?
[18:35] <wylde> scarykitties: but maybe make a usb first from the live session ;)
[18:35] <scarykitties> SOmething about fdsiK/
[18:36] <dosfronteras> so basically allican do now is format. Great..
[18:36] <wylde> !fsck | scarykitties
[18:36] <scarykitties> Working on using Lili USB Creator to do that right now, wylde
[18:36] <AcidRain2012> BobMarley: im pretty sure that is the full path
[18:36] <scarykitties> Uh... o-kay, ubotto.
[18:36] <jpsullia> control is showing in panel
[18:36] <scarykitties> I'm sure I'll have questions. Be right back.
[18:37] <BobMarley> i want to see the  MP tables or ACPI are the apic ids of the other cpus
[18:37] <dosfronteras> WAS ABLE TO boot o ubu!
[18:37] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but it's /var/log/
[18:37] <dosfronteras> i  need 2 fix dis
[18:37] <scarykitties> Nevermind.
[18:37] <Descriptioned> im using cygwin on windowsxp and i did chmod +x on afile but i get this message. ./start: line 262: ./unix: Permission denied
[18:37] <jpsullia> volume control is showing in panel
[18:37] <scarykitties> LiveCD is now in a crash loop.
[18:37] <dosfronteras> files are back....
[18:38] <scarykitties> I can use the mouse for a while...
[18:38] <jpsullia> volume control is not showing in panel
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then it freezes for 10-15 seconds
[18:38] <dosfronteras> wtf is going on?!
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then the screen goes black and the desktop comes up again.
[18:38] <scarykitties> Then a few more moments, then another freeze, etc. etc.
[18:38] <scarykitties> Until finally it crashes to terminal.
[18:38] <jpsullia> ?
[18:38] <AcidRain2012> zykotick9: but in all of my experiences, such as perl and php on a ubuntu system. it appears to never check for that last forward slash. i think it assumes
[18:38] <dosfronteras> i guess ill run the update manager
[18:38] <dosfronteras> hoping for the best
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: hold up dude. you need to back things up first
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> dont miss your chance
[18:39] <zykotick9> AcidRain2012: BobMarley mentioned /var/logS i was trying to point out there is no S
[18:39] <jpsullia> ?
[18:39] <jpsullia> ?
[18:39] <AcidRain2012> zykotick9: oh, i didnt catch the S
[18:39] <level09> what is the best video streaming server for ubuntu ?
[18:39] <wylde> scarykitties: ok, so it completed the usb or crashed trying to make it?
[18:39] <dosfronteras> dont have removable media
[18:39] <scarykitties> Which options should I select for the Linux Live USB Creator?
[18:39] <bastidrazor> level09: ushare does well.
[18:39] <i7c> jpsullia: stay calm.
[18:39] <dosfronteras> im kinda S.O.O.L
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> level09: i like ices
[18:40] <i7c> jpsullia: which desktop?
[18:40] <scarykitties> I didn't even try, wylde. It started crashing as soon as I began to move my mouse.
[18:40] <level09> bastidrazor:  cool, will check that out
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: you need to step away from your computer, and go buy a 5$ 8gb memory stick
[18:40] <Dr_willis> level09,  depends on what you are streaming them to.
[18:40] <scarykitties> But on this Win 7 computer that I am currently chattig on, i'm trying to make a bootable USB to install from
[18:40] <jpsullia> gn
[18:40] <scarykitties> As per links someone gave to me.
[18:40] <wylde> scarykitties: I don't suppose you have the ubuntu iso on the hd of that computer?
[18:40] <level09> Dr_willis:  I want to build a video streaming portal
[18:40] <scarykitties> So, what do I need to put into this Linux Live USB Creator to make an installing USB?
[18:40] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: but ive used ices to stream to cell phones, other computers, files. it works great
[18:41] <scarykitties> No, wylde.
[18:41] <jpsullia> artistx 1.1
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: a usb storage device for one
[18:41] <Dr_willis> !info ices
[18:41] <scarykitties> I got that, dacky.
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: like a flash drive
[18:41] <dackyshawn> lol
[18:41] <scarykitties> So what settings do I put in this program?
[18:41] <Dr_willis> I just use ushare to stream to the other upnp devices on my lan.
[18:41] <scarykitties> Yeah, I got that.
[18:41] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: this is right, it doesnt exist. but you can make it work :)
[18:41] <scarykitties> But how do I make the install on a USB?
[18:41] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:41] <dosfronteras> acidrain2012, wat about ubu one?
[18:42] <level09> AcidRain2012: what is the official page for ices ?
[18:42] <scarykitties> That link someone gave me said to use this Linux Live USB Creator program
[18:42] <wylde> scarykitties: ok you're going to need the iso, to make the usb.
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> level09: i dont think it does have an official page.
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> level09: let me check
[18:42] <i7c> jpsullia: http://bit.ly/HkZd2X
[18:42] <level09> ah okay thanks
[18:42] <wylde> scarykitties: my bad, I ASSumed >.< you had it handy
[18:42] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux has tools to put the iso on pendrive also. for windows and linux. or you can just 'dd' the iso :) if you got a working linux system somewhere.
[18:42] <level09> AcidRain2012:  I was first planning to use ffserver and ffmpeg, then they said it does not support file streaming
[18:42] <scarykitties> That's what i"m trying to do, whoever-gave-me-that-link
[18:43] <scarykitties> I can't keep up with the chat, heh
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, never use that here
[18:43] <level09> what I want is to actually stream an existing library of video files
[18:43] <scarykitties> "The Oneiric ISO file no longer includes a file called usb-creator.exe in the CD image. You need to download Linux Live Usb Creator."
[18:43] <scarykitties> I would love to, website, if I knew how the hell to do that.
[18:43] <level09> can I just use apache/ nginx to stream files ?
[18:43] <AcidRain2012> http://icecast.org/ices.php u are looking at ices0
[18:43] <i7c> bazhang: lmgify?
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, correct
[18:43] <level09> AcidRain2012: thanks
[18:43] <i7c> bazhang: mhm why not?
[18:43] <bazhang> i7c, its demeaning
[18:43] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  so what OS are you on right now that you have the iso file.
[18:43] <level09> does any one know what youtube uses for video streaming ?
[18:44] <AcidRain2012> level09: but... documentation isnt that well for ices0, its kinda outdated. i only use it because it allows me to stream mp3 files. with some modifications, you can get it to stream anything.
[18:44] <level09> AcidRain2012: no problem, Ill give it a try
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> level09: flash
[18:44] <i7c> bazhang: ok i won't anymore. the way he asked was unpolite as well, just for my defense.
[18:44] <BobMarley> why when i type :: nautilus .    in terminal nautilus is not oppening in the working directory of the terminal?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> BobMarley: try:   nautilus ./
[18:44] <level09> ActionParsnip: wow did not expect that
[18:45] <AcidRain2012> BobMarley: well i would try gksudo nautilus ./
[18:45] <AcidRain2012> :)
[18:45] <dackyshawn> level09: u didnt know youtube required flash??
[18:45] <level09> dackyshawn:  I was actually referring to streaming technology
[18:45] <Dr_willis> youtube supports html5 for many videos now. :)
[18:45] <level09> the streaming server
[18:45] <scarykitties> Here is where I am: http://i39.tinypic.com/153l1ep.jpg
[18:45] <scarykitties> Now what?
[18:45] <level09> I know flash is on the front end
[18:46] <dosfronteras> acidrain2012, wat about ubu one?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> level09: you can use chromium and you won't need to install flash for youtube, or you can install minitube
[18:46] <BobMarley> gksudo nautilus ./  also is not working
[18:46] <scarykitties> How much size to I pick, what options, how do I make this an install and not just a live USB, etc.?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> level09: ohhh you mean the server technology?
[18:46] <scarykitties> *do I
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: im not sure what your question is
[18:46] <level09> ActionParsnip: yes, streaming server
[18:46] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  click the lighting bolt to tell it to put the iso on flash.. i hate that lili program .:) its so.. ugly
[18:46] <scarykitties> I leave it at 0 Mb?
[18:46] <level09> ActionParsnip: I have video files on my server, and I want to serve them through a streaming server
[18:46] <dosfronteras> for backing up files. Ubuntu one
[18:46] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  persistant save is optional.
[18:46] <scarykitties> And I want it to hide the files on the key?
[18:47] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  optional...
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: oh you mean that one thing called "ubuntu one"? the thing kinda like icloud. the hackers paradise? i dont use that
[18:47] <wylde> scarykitties: yes, unless you want to keep a persistant live install on the usb :)
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> but as a termporary storage for your backedup files. i guess it will do
[18:47] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  id uncheck those features. you dont need them
[18:47] <scarykitties> Alright, installing now.
[18:47] <scarykitties> Oh, little late for that one, Dr. Sorry.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> level09: may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
[18:47] <level09> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:47] <Dr_willis> 'Linux Live Usb Creator' one of the ugliest programs ive ever seen. :)
[18:47] <AcidRain2012> scarykitties: what tool is that you are using? looks nice
[18:48] <scarykitties> Then you've not seen too many, Dr.
[18:48] <AcidRain2012> lol
[18:48] <dackyshawn> level09: where would u like to stream them to?
[18:48] <scarykitties> Sure, it's a bit tacky, but at least it's not a crap 98-style application.
[18:48] <dackyshawn> over the web to a remote PC?
[18:48] <dackyshawn> or over the LAN level09
[18:48] <scarykitties> It's just "fancy" in the way that keygens often are.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  looks like someone drank paint then puked.. interface has major issues also. :) but it does work at least.
[18:48] <level09> dackyshawn: no, to the internet
[18:48] <level09> dackyshawn: its a public video website
[18:48] <dackyshawn> level09: u could use VLC to do that
[18:48] <dackyshawn> depends
[18:48] <Dr_willis> pendrive linux site has alternatives that work just as well.
[18:48] <scarykitties> Anywho, what do I do once this USB drive is made?
[18:49] <dackyshawn> but u should know unless u have a business line it could go really bad level09
[18:49] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: lol. yeah i know. but then again. i just havent ever used anything like that. ive always done it manually
[18:49] <adrian> siema
[18:49] <scarykitties> Plug it into my computer and try to find BIOS settings for booting from USB?
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: why would it be bad ?
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: you mean expensive ?
[18:49] <dackyshawn> level09: what country do you live in?
[18:49] <wylde> scarykitties: yes
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: I'm in Dubai
[18:49] <level09> in UAE
[18:49] <scarykitties> I presume that boot from USB option will show up in my BIOS after it detects a bootable USB drive?
[18:49] <AcidRain2012> 11.10 uses gnome and unity? :/
[18:49] <dackyshawn> level09: is that where u will be streaming from?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  you can take the iso file. rename it to .img and use this tool to 'dd' it to flash in windows also. -- https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer
[18:49] <scarykitties> Because AFAIRC, that is not a default option.
[18:49] <level09> dackyshawn: nope, I'll stream from ec2
[18:50] <level09> videos are on s3
[18:50] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  some pcs  need you to hit a key to make the menu appear. or check your bios settings
[18:50] <dackyshawn> you may want to check their EULA for that streaming could be against it
[18:50] <wylde> scarykitties: very well might, how old is the computer? I have an amd 1.3Ghz here that will boot from usb
[18:50] <dackyshawn> but vlc if it isnt can work...
[18:50] <scarykitties> Yeah, I know how to work with computers, at least the basics
[18:50] <level09> dackyshawn:  I dont think so, they even have an option in s3 to stream any file
[18:50] <BobMarley>  i think that i know already what was my problem, i was loged in the terminal as a root, that i why i was unable to open nautilus in the terminal current direct
[18:50] <scarykitties> I've built computers for years, but I've not worked with Linux and the way it does things
[18:50] <MarKsaitis> when u ppl say stable distro gets bug updates... does it also mean stuff like lubuntu-desktop get bug updates too? I have a bug here which is I believe 2 years old in 11.04 to do with lubuntu-desktop, and is STILL HERE. VERy OBVIOUS ONE http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/9218/solved-is-lxsession-needed-in-openbox-lxde-compatibility-issue/ <<<----------- this one, GOD DAMN IT. Where are these bug fixes?
[18:50] <scarykitties> So I'm not familiar with any of this stuff.
[18:50] <level09> dackyshawn: thanks for that, I'll check VLC server
[18:50] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: nice
[18:50] <Dr_willis> No idea whyt these pc makers cant agree on a standard key to select a boot drive menu.
[18:50] <zetsuboudev> Some PCs, in the BIOS the USB option will be listed as a HDD. In which case, you need to update the HDD boot order.
[18:51] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thats not necessary
[18:51] <Dr_willis> ive had to put little stickers on all these differnt pc's keyboards so i can rember which key to boot from usb.
[18:51] <scarykitties> USB should be ready. I'll be back.
[18:51] <Taek> Good Morning #Ubuntu
[18:51] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: so according to this. i can install ubuntu on an sd card. and keep it in my phone and just use a safe android writting partition until i need ubuntu, then while im at a friends house, and he says to me 'man i hate windows, wish i had ubuntu!' i can be like 'bam!!!! got it right here on this sd card'
[18:51] <Krazypoloc> Hey guys
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> Taek  other timezone
[18:51] <MarKsaitis> it is. Everybody said to me all the day long, 11.04 is stable, gets bug fixes etc.... but this one, very obvious few years old bug, still here. Where are these updates?
[18:52] <dackyshawn> level09: also for best performance you should use a VSI...  Video Script installer
[18:52] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, the language is not
[18:52] <dackyshawn> like PHPMotion
[18:52] <Taek> Still  morning in  california for another few minutes.
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> Having issues with a dual NIC virtual server setting the IP for the second NIC
[18:52] <dosfronteras> how do I remove a package? I need o remove tixati, i think thats my problem
[18:52] <dackyshawn> level09: here's an example:  http://www.cirtexhosting.com/video-script-installer.shtml
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> http://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS
[18:52] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, whats the difference, if nobody cares ever anyway
[18:52] <dackyshawn> this is just a company that ofers that, but should be similar with amazon's cloud
[18:52] <AcidRain2012> dosfronteras: sudo aptitude remove tixati
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  you could.. if his pc can boot from sd.. but a sd is slow also.. my netbook has xbmcbuntu on its sd for my video watching. :)
[18:52] <Krazypoloc> That should work for eth1 correct?
[18:52] <dackyshawn> assuming u like paying for bandwidth ;-)
[18:52] <AcidRain2012> but idk if thats your prolem
[18:52] <MarKsaitis> everybody says that everything works and is stable, but nobody cares :)
[18:53] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: good point
[18:53] <level09> dackyshawn: nice , reading ..
[18:53] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, this is the wrong channel for rants. follow up on the bug
[18:53] <dosfronteras> k i says"building dependency tree" but nada else
[18:54] <MarKsaitis> Im saying to all the ones which say "stable distro gets bug updates", no it doesnt, not even the obvious ones in everyday life scenarios
[18:54] <AcidRain2012> Dr_willis: i know its a little off topic, but you seem to be the man for this. and i know that android is a linux based phone. but will we ever see a phone that is "more" like ubuntu? such as interface, and gui functionality?
[18:54] <MarKsaitis> fullstop
[18:54] <Krazypoloc> If I set the IP through "ifconfig eth1 10.0.11.6" it sets the IP and it works fine....but the interface config hangs the system on reboot
[18:54] <dackyshawn> level09: http://www.phpmotion.com/  <-- since you have your own hosting server with bandwidth that may be more helpful
[18:54] <bazhang> AcidRain2012, #ubuntu-phone
[18:54] <zykotick9> Krazypoloc: typo alert.  "auto eht1"
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  please type /join #insultUbuntu
[18:55] <Taek> :D
[18:55] <Rapid2214> Krazypoloc: Setting it using ifconfig will not save the IP address to the config
[18:55] <Krazypoloc> Yes I know
[18:55] <level09> dackyshawn: thanks, but I really want to stay away from php these days :D
[18:55] <Dr_willis> AcidRain2012,  theres a ubuntu phone in the works.
[18:55] <Krazypoloc> I'm stating that my ifconfig works...the config file does not
[18:55] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, thats not helping
[18:55] <level09> would prefer a python based solution
[18:55] <MarKsaitis> whatever, it's obvious what I said,  DE factO
[18:55] <dackyshawn> level09: lots of options that was just one...  but there are thousands
[18:56] <Rapid2214> Krazypoloc: Pastebin your interfaces file
[18:56] <Krazypoloc> http://pastebin.com/Jy2qQsqS
[18:56] <angs> what is the command to see the currently running proccesses?
[18:56] <Krazypoloc> top
[18:56] <dackyshawn> level09: u could also check out http://clip-bucket.com/
[18:56] <level09> dackyshawn: yeah, that's the problem, I think I'll just choose one and try it out. . VLC seems like a good start
[18:56] <Rapid2214> angs: ps aux can also be used
[18:56] <llutz> Krazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"
[18:56] <zykotick9> Krazypoloc: it's your interfaces file with the typo
[18:56] <jako> alguien que me ayude
[18:57] <dackyshawn> VLC is ok, but compression isnt the best i've found
[18:57] <level09> dackyshawn: the thing is , I'm more concerned about the streaming server itself, I will build the script myself later
[18:57] <Krazypoloc> What should it read?
[18:57] <llutz> Krazypoloc: correct line 8, "auto eth1"
[18:57] <Rapid2214> eth1 :)
[18:57] <Krazypoloc> SHould be "auto eth0:1"?
[18:58] <level09> I am starting to believe that you can stream anything using any server
[18:58] <wylde> eht1 --> eth1
[18:58] <llutz> Krazypoloc: can't you read? change it into "auto eth1"
[18:58] <wylde> slysdexia ftw! >.<
[18:58] <scarykitties> When starting an install, Ubuntu often goes to a screen that looks like white nose.
[18:58] <scarykitties> What would cuase that?
[18:59] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[18:59] <scarykitties> Colored white, red, green, and blue dots interspersed in a noise pattern.
[18:59] <Rapid2214> scarykitties: Is it for a long time?
[18:59] <scarykitties> It's been for about a minute so far.
[18:59] <scarykitties> It happened once before
[18:59] <scarykitties> This is me installing from the USB stick this time
[18:59] <scarykitties> Or attempting. IT hasn't gotten to the actual install screen yet
[18:59] <Dr_willis> try the nomodeset option above scarykitties . if it fails to boot.
[19:00] <scarykitties> What?
[19:00] <wylde> scarykitties: be patient, it's faster than optical drive install but not as fast as if it was running from HD
[19:00] <scarykitties> It booted.
[19:00] <scarykitties> But after I selected "install" I get a screen with noise
[19:00] <Taek> ! nomodeset | scarykitties
[19:00] <Dr_willis> some video cards can be confused and need the nomodeset option
[19:00] <Dr_willis> ati - often does. some nvidia does also.
[19:00] <scarykitties> Ugh
[19:01] <scarykitties> This is why I don't like Linux.
[19:01] <dackyshawn> lol
[19:01] <Dr_willis> not needed the fix in 12.04
[19:01] <scarykitties> This is taking far longer than it should
[19:01]  * Dr_willis is reminded of taking 3 days to reinstall windows last month....
[19:01] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: could be a between the chair and keyboard interfacing problem
[19:01] <scarykitties> Okay, I'll give it another shot.
[19:01] <Taek> I  have good reasons to not like linux, but it's good or rooting android devices.
[19:01] <scarykitties> I get it, dacky.
[19:01] <scarykitties> You're saying I'm a clueless twit.
[19:01] <wylde> scarykitties: almost everything takes longer when you're unfamiliar with it, doesn't matter what it is. Linux, knitting, dancing etc etc. lol
[19:02] <dackyshawn> scarykitties: no i didnt say that
[19:02] <MarKsaitis> is there something better lightweight than lxde? I mean what is the point of using latest stable lxde on 11.04 if it actually does not work?
[19:02] <Taek> !vhost
[19:03] <Taek> hmm I want a custom vhost..
[19:03] <bazhang> Taek, cloak on #freenode
[19:03] <Taek> Thanks
[19:03] <Krazypoloc> @llutz thats what its currently set to
[19:03] <Krazypoloc> What am I missing here?
[19:03] <llutz> Krazypoloc: its not, read carefulle
[19:03] <scarykitties> nomodeset seems to have prevented a noise screen at least this time.
[19:03] <llutz> fully
[19:03] <Dr_willis> !info jwm Lighter then lxde.. less features also. :)
[19:03] <scarykitties> Buuut that noise screen didn't happen every time, anyway
[19:03] <Dr_willis> oops.. heh
[19:03] <llutz> Krazypoloc: "auto eht1" != "auto eth1"
[19:03] <scarykitties> Only twice out of the 7-8 times I tried
[19:04] <Kaizen> can anyone recommend a really lightweight socks proxy?
[19:04] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  thats even weirder.
[19:04] <devicenull> I'm trying to setup a net install system.  How do I disable ipv6 in the installer? (I have no ipv6 support, there's no reason to even attempt autoconfig of it)
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> DOH!!
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> Thanks guys
[19:04] <Krazypoloc> I'm retarded....
[19:06] <scarykitties> Damn it.
[19:06] <scarykitties> Got another I/O error
[19:07] <scarykitties> So it's the HDD, then.
[19:07] <scarykitties> Odd that it randomly died out of nowhere when it was working perfectly hours ago.
[19:07] <scarykitties> It worked fine in Wind 7
[19:07] <scarykitties> *Win 7
[19:07] <scarykitties> When I started trying to install other OSs, suddenly it doesn't work.
[19:07] <Zal> scarykitties, does it work reinstall win7?
[19:07] <scarykitties> I'm not going to waste time trying.
[19:07] <Zal> to* reinstall that is
[19:08] <bekks> You dont have to reinstall all the time just because somethings broken.
[19:08] <Zal> bekks, um, that isn't really the point
[19:08] <dysoco> I need help: I installed "ruby-rvm" but failed, now I can't install any package via apt-get because it keeps throwing me an error about ruby-rvm... any ideas ?
[19:08] <bekks> And a broken hdd cant be foxed by reinstalling the OS.
[19:08] <bekks> Zal: Thats the point.
[19:08] <scarykitties> I know ,bekks.
[19:09] <Zal> bekks, the point is to determine IF the hdd is broken. Win7 worked fine previously; if it does so again, it's not the hdd
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm not trying to fix an HDD by reinstalling an OS
[19:09] <bekks> scarykitties: Didnt say you do.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm trying to reinstall an OS, but am learning the HDD got screwed somewhere along hte lines.
[19:09] <scarykitties> Apparently
[19:09] <bekks> Zal: Thats not true at all.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I'm installing using IDE on the SATA again, by the way
[19:09] <scarykitties> There was no ADPI or whatever setting
[19:09] <scarykitties> It was ADCP or something like that
[19:09] <bekks> Zal: Unless it uses _exactly_ the same sectors Ubuntu does, you cant verify it.
[19:09] <scarykitties> I misread.
[19:09] <bekks> scarykitties: ACPI
[19:10] <scarykitties> Right
[19:10] <scarykitties> ACPI
[19:10] <scarykitties> Don't know what that means, but a'ight
[19:10] <scarykitties> It's not an option, anyway.
[19:10] <bekks> Why not?
[19:10] <scarykitties> Because it doesn't show up.
[19:10] <scarykitties> In the BIOS
[19:10] <scarykitties> As an option
[19:10] <bekks> Enter is not a punctuation sign, please :)
[19:11] <Zal> bekks, modern linux filesystems are smart enough to avoid one or two bad sectors. That's an entirely different thing than a broken hdd
[19:11] <Andy2113> guys, anybody that's familiar with deluge torrent client, I need help. How do I remove the queue from my seeds? I want to keep seeding, not be queued :/
[19:12] <scarykitties> So is there some other BIOS setting that could be preventing Ubuntu from installing on the defaults, or is it definitely an HDD issue?
[19:12] <bekks> Zal: Instead of using useless reinstalls, you just can use "smartctl" to determine wether the disc is broken.
[19:12] <Zal> bekks, sure, if you can boot
[19:12] <bekks> scarykitties: Use smartctl from a livecd to check.
[19:12] <scarykitties> How do I do that?
[19:12] <bekks> By booting a live cd.
[19:13] <wylde> scarykitties:  or usb
[19:13] <scarykitties> Can I boot from the live USB?
[19:13] <scarykitties> Alright
[19:13] <scarykitties> Okay, doing that
[19:14] <Andy2113> Anybody know how to remove queued seeds from a torrent with deluge?
[19:14] <scarykitties> Okay, it's loaded to Live mode
[19:14] <scarykitties> Now what?
[19:14] <bekks> scarykitties: Now use smartctl -a /dev/yourharddisc
[19:14] <zykotick9> dysoco: can you give any error output?  "sudo apt-get -f install" is the gerenal, attempt to fix apt automajically.
[19:14] <scarykitties> "use" as in...?
[19:14] <scarykitties> Type it somewhere? Where?
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: In a terminal.
[19:15] <scarykitties> And how do I pull up terminal?
[19:15] <zykotick9> Andy2113: check if there is a max upload option somewhere
[19:15] <bekks> By starting it.
[19:15] <scarykitties> Is it an obvious option somewhere?
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: Yes.
[19:15] <bazhang> control alt T scarykitties
[19:15] <wylde> scarykitties: ctrl+alt+t
[19:15] <scarykitties> Op, can't
[19:15] <bekks> scarykitties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[19:16] <scarykitties> Ubuntu's in its lovely crash loop again.
[19:16] <scarykitties> Can't do anything.
[19:16] <Zal> scarykitties, maybe your problem is with bad RAM, rather than a failing hdd
[19:16] <scarykitties> What is the use of an OS that you can't do anything with without a working Internet connection so you can look up documentation on how to do even the most basic things?
[19:16] <zatan> Hi how can I create grep alias which one exclides folder ? alias cgrep="grep -ir --exclude-dir='media/' ."    I have got this one but i wan something "cgrep -ir "blabla" .
[19:16] <wylde> scarykitties: that IS a possibility, a failing HD would have nothing to do with running a live session.
[19:17] <scarykitties> Possible, Zal, though I ran about half of a memory test without anyerrors
[19:17] <Zal> zatan, write a bash function
[19:17] <bekks> zatan: Then omit the .
[19:17] <bekks> zatan: Unnecessary.
[19:17] <Escherial> hey, does anyone happen to know why, in ubuntu 11.10, adding programs to the launcher just displays an invisible space rather than the program's icon?
[19:18] <gadien> Hello, I have a usb drive that I can't safely remove and I closed the programs I thought were using it. what can I do?
[19:18] <Zal> bekks, you misread. He wants to change he exlcude dir, not the search dir.
[19:18] <Escherial> also, the quick launcher (invoked from pressing the "windows" key) is quite slow...is there any way to improve it?
[19:18] <Louis11> I've developed an application that allows a user to interact with the system tray icon. It works in KDE, Gnome, and XFCE but fails in Unity. Does Unity prevent "mouse over events" ?
[19:19] <scarykitties> I'll run a memory test from the Ubuntu DVE
[19:19] <scarykitties> *DVD
[19:19] <scarykitties> Though I don't see why my RAM would suddenly die over the past 8 hours when I began trying to install a new OS
[19:19] <scarykitties> It worked perfectly in Win 7 just 8 hours ago
[19:19] <Taek> use memtestx86 :D
[19:19] <scarykitties> Don't know how to do that
[19:19] <BobMarley> from where i get the mp tables?
[19:19] <Dr_willis> scarykitties,  with that logic nothing should ever die.. :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> The logic is based on things showing signs of failure before failing, Dr.
[19:20] <Zal> scarykitties, probably you're just lucky that way :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> The assumption that things wear down before they fail entirely.
[19:20] <Dr_willis> electronics dont normally fail that way.
[19:20] <scarykitties> Yeah, I've luckied myself $2000 dollars poorer over the past week thanks to hardware issues.
[19:20] <Dr_willis> car brakes. yes.. :)
[19:20] <scarykitties> And my patience is about [] this thin.
[19:21] <wylde> well that's better than || <-- this thin ;)
[19:21] <scarykitties> I'm running a memory test
[19:21] <dysoco|laptop> I'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? It's an error with "dpkg-statoverride"
[19:21] <scarykitties> If that memory teast whoever-it-was suggested requires running from the live LC
[19:21] <scarykitties> Then I reiterate that the problem is that the Live CD doesn't work
[19:21] <scarykitties> Potentially due to memory issues
[19:21] <scarykitties> Hence the need to run the test.
[19:21] <Dr_willis> put the hd in a differnt pc. and install to it.. then move it back. :)
[19:22] <Dr_willis> done that in a few cases in the past.
[19:22] <scarykitties> I don't have a idfferent PC to put it in
[19:22] <Dr_willis> you could even image the iso to a spare hd. plug them both in. install from one to the other.. then remove the iso image hd..
[19:22] <Dr_willis> but thats getting a bit 'weird'
[19:22] <Dr_willis> it was REAL fast when i did it that way.
[19:23] <Zal> if you really want to be sure it's broken, and not just guess, smash it with a hammer.
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> how do I remove lubuntu-desktop?!?!?!
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> help
[19:24] <scarykitties> Install Windows instead.
[19:24] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, and leave what
[19:24] <dysoco> MarKsaitis, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop ?
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> no, seriously, apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop
[19:24] <bazhang> Zal, thats not helping
[19:24] <scarykitties> Oh, what's lubuntu? I dunno. Sorry.
[19:24] <MarKsaitis> didnt work
[19:25] <scarykitties> Thought it was a type of ubuntu
[19:25] <scarykitties> *typo
[19:25] <bekks> MarKsaitis: "didnt work" means what?
[19:25] <Dr_willis> MarKsaitis,  its a meta package - so removeing it will NOT remove everything it pulled in when it was installed.
[19:25] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, what else do you have installed
[19:25] <MarKsaitis> I said yes at a prompt, restarted server etc.... but if I do vncserver and connect over vnc, I still get the interface
[19:25] <dysoco> I tried to install "ruby-rvm" wich failed, now I can't install any packages via apt-get, because I get errors with "dpkg-statoverride"... any ideas ? I can paste the error, but it's in Spanish
[19:25] <MarKsaitis> Dr_willis, omg, how rude..... so how do I get rid of it all together then?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> removeing the lubuntu-desktop package will not remove the lxde enviroment.
[19:26] <Taek> I should setup vpn though my sever
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> omg, this is rude, how do i remove all tha tcrap then?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> you remove the packages with the package manager.. meta packages make things easy to install.. not remove.
[19:26] <Zal> bazhang, oh I dunno, scarykitties seems kinda frazzled. A little humor can sometimes calm a guy down a bit.
[19:26] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, do you have another de installed
[19:26] <bazhang> Zal, #ubuntu-offtopic for jokes
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> I do not have any DE installed, dont need any
[19:27] <Dr_willis> meta-packages are just a work around for having an easier command to install a 'desktop' or other 'group of packages'
[19:27] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no one is being rude to you
[19:27] <MarKsaitis> why metapackages don't end with package-meta or smth... if I ever knew
[19:27] <scarykitties> Yeah, I'm more than a little PO'd, but I'm trying not to take it out on you guys. I do appreciate the help, but I'm frustrated.
[19:28] <MarKsaitis> I have downloaded 1 GB of crap and I now don't know how to get rid of it
[19:28] <MarKsaitis> it's like "no way back", just sweet
[19:28] <Zal> bazhang, ok, that makes little sense to me, but I'm guessing you're an op, enforcing a "no jokes" rule, so I will be dead serious from now on. My apologies.
[19:28] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove whatever   or use aptitude
[19:29] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, if you install lubuntu-desktop, it will pull many packages. but if you uninstall it, the packges it pulled will remain
[19:29] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[19:29] <Dr_willis> i rarely uninstall stuff. :)
[19:29] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, just follow the puregnome steps, but dont install ubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <MarKsaitis> I dont want any gnomes inside my pc
[19:29] <MarKsaitis> =)))
[19:30] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thus why I said DONT install ubuntu-desktop
[19:30] <MarKsaitis> anyways, what a shame and waste of space =)
[19:30] <Dr_willis> random comments are random.
[19:30] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, just pick your favorite desktop or window manager and start removing packages, usually removing lxde will do
[19:30] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, read the link
[19:30] <Dr_willis> You installed them. not us. :)
[19:30] <MarKsaitis> ok, how do I remove lxde?
[19:30] <Dr_willis> !info lxde
[19:31] <dysoco|laptop> I'm having a problem running "apt-get" I can't install Anything because of some weird error with Ruby-RVM... any ideas ? http://pastebin.com/gjpMYuXJ
[19:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove whatever
[19:31] <Artemis3> yes start removing lxde-common, that will want to remove others, and so on
[19:31] <zamba> i have a problem with a ubuntu server not booting. i'm dropped into initramfs.. looks like the problem is related to /dev/mapper.. what can i do?
[19:31] <zamba> edit /etc/fstab?
[19:31] <Dr_willis> apt-get supports wildcards :) but be carefull with that
[19:31] <bazhang> the !pure link gives a lot to remove
[19:31] <scarykitties> I'm gonna go with someone's suggestion and try installing Win 7 again. If it works, I'm just going to stick with it, because why not?
[19:31] <gmachine_24> running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized
[19:31] <MarKsaitis> so lubuntu-desktop is metapackage, lxde is metapackage..... so how many hours do I need to scientifically study these metapackages within metapackages to just remove that beast?
[19:32] <scarykitties> But I'll stay around to let y'all know if the memtest shows up errors in the RAM. None so far.
[19:32] <bekks> zamba: First, provide the error in a pastebin :)
[19:32] <Artemis3> you could also see the list of packages installed by lubuntu-desktop (its in the ubuntu packages web)
[19:32] <snama> hello
[19:32] <bazhang> !purexfce
[19:32] <MarKsaitis> I mean linux for server - ok, but for your laptop - u got to be noob =)
[19:32] <zamba> bekks: only a screenshot.. but i'll transcribe it
[19:32] <Zal> scarykitties, memtest can take many hours to find errors in some cases.
[19:32] <gmachine_24> snama, ask your question or state your problem
[19:32] <scarykitties> Is there a quicker way, Zal?
[19:33] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce   MarKsaitis read the part about removing lubuntu on that link
[19:33] <Zal> scarykitties, none that I know of that are as reliable.
[19:33] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, it might be easier and faster to just reinstall ubuntu minimal (f4 for command line only) then install the packages you want
[19:33] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, yeah im going to xfce
[19:33] <scarykitties> If the memory is shot, shouldn't the errors be more persistant than Ubuntu not installing?
[19:33] <Dr_willis> not like having lubuntu and xubuntu both installed are going to take a lot of space...
[19:33] <scarykitties> Shouldn't there be random crashes left and right?
[19:33] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, you dont need to, just dont install a DE at the end
[19:33] <scarykitties> Or hang-ups of all kinds?
[19:34] <ziyadb> Hello! I just got a new TV, and am using VGA input. The Ubuntu system settings list it as an "unknown" display and has set the resolution to 1024x768 (4:3). How can I make it better recognize the display or override the detection mechanism? The display is 1920x1080.
[19:34] <zamba> bekks: http://pastie.org/3734778
[19:34] <gmachine_24> scarykitties, bad memory can cause all sorts of problems - mostly unpredictable
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  cant set it up to use hdmi?
[19:34] <snama> I have a bit annoying issue, not really big but still annoying.        SO. when I do a fresh boot or a after a reboot and login with LightDM into a XFCE Desktop (ubuntu variation of Ubuntu-Studio if that makes any difference),  my keyboard keys of 'e' and 'p' do not work. only after I log out back to lightdm and log in again do they work. has anybody experienced anything like this?
[19:34] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: no HDMI out on my computer unfortunately.
[19:34] <Artemis3> scarykitties, run memtest and leave it a whole pass (can take an hour or so)
[19:34] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  sad. with hdmi it should  work automatically
[19:35] <gmachine_24> snama, perhaps you should seek help from the ubuntu-studio people - or is that handled here?
[19:35] <hex`> Where is located "DavLockDB" (apache2 module) on ubuntu? I already searched for almost every word but still I can't find it.
[19:35] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  what video chipset?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> !find DavLockDB
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: of course. There isn't a reason (aside from detection issues) that would prevent me from using 1920x1080 on VGA, yes?
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, I get errors with unable to find this and this package
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> a nightmare
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> omg
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: how do I check?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  not sure. i havent used vga in years.
[19:35] <snama> gmachine_24, the thing is that it doesnt seem to be an audio related problem, more like something of a mix of xfce and xorg
[19:35] <MarKsaitis> why stuff cant just be simple
[19:35] <snama> or one of them
[19:35] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: integrated intel 4500HD or something.
[19:36] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,   the monitor/display setting tool might let you select a differnt res.
[19:36] <snama> but i will try at ubuntu-studio channel
[19:36] <Taek> hex` is this supposed to be an apache2 module, if so please take your question to #apache
[19:36] <gmachine_24> snama, #ubuntustudio
[19:36] <snama> thanks
[19:36] <hex`> Taek thank you.
[19:37] <Taek> Also  if it's for SVN which i think it is, might check with #subversion
[19:37] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: the "display settings" tool?
[19:37] <gmachine_24> ok so any help for me? :) running 11.04 on lenovo laptop - SanDisk USB imagemate flash disk reader is not recognized
[19:37] <Dr_willis> ziyadb,  in the menus somewhere. a tool to set your res.
[19:37] <zamba> bekks: any idea?
[19:37] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: yeah, the default one. The options are limited.
[19:38] <Artemis3> gmachine_24, have you tried more recent versions just in case? (live cds, etc)
[19:38] <ziyadb> Dr_willis: just 800x600 and 1024x768, both 4:3.
[19:38] <andygraybeal> hey guys, I'm running 10.04 LTS.  I installed the latest LibreOffice from PPA ( http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu lucid main ) it installed LO 3.5.1.2 - the problem I ran into is it doesn't want to print copies of a document.  the fix is outlined yesterday here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/925836 .  the problem i have is i don't understand this enough to know how to remedy my situation.  can som
[19:38] <andygraybeal> eone help me?
[19:38] <atpa8a> hmm
[19:38] <atpa8a> network issue... cannot restart
[19:38] <snama> gmachine_24 do you know what file system its using?
[19:38] <atpa8a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916460/
[19:38] <atpa8a> can anyone comment?
[19:39] <genewitch> what does it mean when the installer hangs at 98% "Starting PC Card Services" on ubuntu server
[19:39] <MarKsaitis> it means ur screwed
[19:39] <genewitch> cool story bro
[19:39] <MarKsaitis> =)
[19:40] <Taek> true
[19:40] <csharp> genewitch: can you check /var/log/syslog for any useful messages?
[19:40] <rrva> hi! How do I set the only sink to be my TV over hdmi when that cable is connected and how do I force it to be 48khz? I have crackling audio now
[19:40] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, thats not helping
[19:41] <MarKsaitis> !xfce
[19:41] <MarKsaitis> I bet thats another METAdevilpackage
[19:42] <antonn_> Hi!
[19:42] <guntbert> MarKsaitis: what are you trying to do?
[19:42] <Duality> how do i start a process in terminal/console and when i do ctrl-c it doesn't really closes but gives me back the console/commandline
[19:42] <antonn_> Can you please tell the name of the actor (the little negro) ? http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7091/screenshot2012040523130.jpg
[19:43] <bazhang> antonn_, wrong channel
[19:43] <guntbert> Duality: programname &     starts it "in the background"
[19:44] <Duality> guntbert, if i start my python script it'll ask me a few questions and then run, but i want to close it after it's done asking me the questions and us the command line while it runs in the background
[19:44] <Zal> Duality, you can start it inside a screen session
[19:44] <Artemis3> MarcoSousa, what do you want? pure xfce? then the meta is called xfce4, but there are core packages. The whole experience is xubuntu-desktop
[19:44] <Artemis3> i mean MarKsaitis
[19:45] <mcb_1> Duality:  Use CTRL+z
[19:45] <mcb_1> Duality: It will put it in background in the middle of execution
[19:45] <Zal> ctrl-z works too, so long as you don't try to exit the shell
[19:45] <MarKsaitis> yeah Artemis3 I want xfce
[19:45] <zykotick9> Duality: you also might want to checkout "screen"
[19:45] <MarKsaitis> desktop
[19:46] <guntbert> Duality: better use another terminal  window   -- or still better  GNU screen
[19:46] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, check here, it shows what packages will install: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4
[19:47] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, you can compare with xubuntu-desktop. Difecente is ubuntu vs debian way
[19:47] <Artemis3> diference
[19:47] <frunk> How's it going
[19:47] <guntbert> frunk: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[19:47] <frunk> I'm having an issue with installation and I can't find any information about it anywhere
[19:48] <frunk> Anyone got some time to help
[19:48] <zykotick9> !details | frunk
[19:48] <MarKsaitis> is it xubuntu-desktop?
[19:48] <MarKsaitis> systems says foff to me when I try to install it =) not found
[19:48] <frunk> It's with any Linux based OS I guess, Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu
[19:49] <frunk> The problem I receive is a split screen like effect
[19:49] <Taek>  sounds like a computer issue not a distro issue
[19:49] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, both will install an XFCE desktop, its the extra packages what changes. Xubuntu will use Network Manager, for instance.
[19:49] <frunk> where upon installation and bootup
[19:49] <spyvsspy> hi, I am getting an error in regards to invalide character version numbers when installing a .deb
[19:49] <frunk> It splits my screen into two portions
[19:49] <fenns> anyone know which package has the Mist icon set?
[19:49] <spyvsspy> whats the quickest way around this?
[19:49] <guntbert> !enter | frunk
[19:49] <frunk> Like a dual monitor effect
[19:49] <MarKsaitis> anyways, dunno what ur all talking about, im on ubuntu 11.04 and I want xfce desktop
[19:49] <MarKsaitis> !xfce
[19:50] <ToMiKS> !edubuntu
[19:50] <frunk> Alrihgt, yeah, it gives me a dual monitor like effect. I can't access the right side of the screen without moving my mouse all the way to the left side of the screen and past it.
[19:50] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, xubuntu-desktop is the package to install
[19:50] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, wither install xubuntu-destop OR xfce4
[19:50] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, /msg ubottu from now on
[19:50] <Taek> frunk do you hav e any video issues with windows?
[19:50] <frunk> No
[19:50] <MarKsaitis> =)))))) what is the difference between xubuntu-desktoip and xfce?
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> I thought they are both xfce4?
[19:51] <frunk> I've got all new hardware, just built this computer 4 months ago
[19:51] <Taek> you may have to install proprietary hardware drivers.
[19:51] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, thats why i showed you that page, it tells which packages install
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/UB6sxYPh for all of you, have a look
[19:51] <MarKsaitis> I find it a waste of time, why cant it just work
[19:51] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4 vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xubuntu-desktop
[19:52] <Taek> Menu:System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[19:52] <frunk> Taek, so I need to get hardware drivers?
[19:52] <Artemis3> MarKsaitis, it works if you install the package xubuntu-desktop, OR download the Xubuntu image and install from scratch
[19:52] <Taek> Not saying you absolutely do, j ust stating it as a p ossiblity
[19:52] <frunk> okay
[19:53] <Taek> Excuse my spacing, spacebar button is stuck haha
[19:53] <frunk> yeah, windows works fine which is why I thought it was weird, I'm running mint off a USB right now
[19:53] <mcb_1> MarKsaitis: Terminal is case sensitive, you typed Xubuntu with X capital, it is in lower case, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <frunk> and it's working fine
[19:53] <frunk> I also ran fedora last night and that installed fine
[19:53] <dooma09> When creating new directory how do to default to have group write access? The current default is with no group write access to directory.
[19:53] <jack> hello
[19:53] <zykotick9> dooma09: look into umask
[19:54] <Taek> Ubuntu has generic vga/xvga drivers. If you use nVidia you will certainly  need hardware drivers
[19:54] <MarKsaitis> mcb_1, as u can se I tried both options
[19:54] <llutz> dooma09: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/group-write-access-for-newly-created-files-directories-without-changing-umask-716601/
[19:54] <sebastien> hola
[19:55] <mcb_1> MarKsaitis: I saw it a little after, but as your output said xubunto-desktop is already installed....
[19:55] <frunk> I'm using a MSI 6970, so, I guess ATI RAdeon
[19:55] <sebastien>  buenas noches
[19:55] <frunk> not nvidia
[19:55] <frunk> weird
[19:55] <guntbert> !es | sebastien
[19:55] <Taek> well both nVidia & ATI  require hardware drivers to fully  utilize them. If it's onboard m ost of the time the generic driver works at least enough to get the drivers
[19:56] <Artemis3> hmm that ubotu message in spanish could use some fixes
[19:56] <Zal> dooma09, others gave you suggestions for changing the default. You can also override the default with the -m switch to mkdir.
[19:56] <genewitch> dell 1950s SUCK
[19:56] <MarKsaitis> anyways, it is all a big pile of unstable crap :D
[19:56] <Guest1136> ubuntu-es
[19:56] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, stop that
[19:56] <Artemis3>  /join #ubuntu-es
[19:57] <Zal> Taek, is that true? 5 years ago I was able to get full support (incl 3d accel) from my ATI using native drivers. Not sure about these days.
[19:57] <frunk> yup, Taek, well done
[19:57] <frunk> seems to be a driver issue
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, how can it say such pack is installed if I never installed it and its not there
[19:57] <frunk> since the card isn't normally compatible
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> the damn thing, I even did remove and install again, it did install few megs, but still the stuff isnt there
[19:57] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, why are you running as root
[19:57] <Taek> Zal he's using onboard on a mainboard less then a year old :)
[19:57] <dooma09> Zal: ok. but if user create directory from ftp then i can't use -m. I'll check out umaske and the link from llutz. Thanks.
[19:57] <MarKsaitis> I have asked installer to install something for me, it said it installed. but stuff isnt there. how can I trust that installer
[19:58] <MarKsaitis> why not
[19:58] <Zal> Taek, yeah, i don't know the current state of drivers, but at the time, my ATI card was brand new as well
[19:58] <pluz_> hey
[19:58] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, its installed.
[19:58] <Artemis3> dooma09, it might be your ftp server settings, check config
[19:58] <Taek> Onboard/ vs PCIe/APG   handes differently
[19:58] <Taek> AGP*
[19:58] <zykotick9> ftp must die!
[19:59] <Taek>  FTP is the good stuff man
[19:59] <Zal> Taek, interesting, never noticed the difference.
[19:59] <frunk> Taek, one more thing, trying to install this driver
[19:59] <Taek> OnBoard video doesn't  have a bios chip to relay the details to the system
[19:59] <frunk> seems it's going to open up the terminal, but it's opening up gedit, with a blank box.
[20:00] <frunk> there we go
[20:00] <frunk> got it
[20:00] <Taek> :D
[20:00] <frunk> thank you sir
[20:00] <Taek> Your welcome Frunk
[20:01] <frunk> now, will this driver like, go over the regular driver, and if I want optimal performance on win7, I will need to redownload the regular drivers?
[20:01] <frunk> or it's just alongside it
[20:01] <Taek> Windows Utilizes  drivers differently then linux
[20:02] <frunk> So this linux driver will just be installed alongside any other drivers that the gfx card uses?
[20:02] <guntbert> frunk: please don't press <enter> so often, you are scrolling the channel much more than needed
[20:02] <Taek> If you have a dual-boot system, each OS will require their version of the driver
[20:02] <frunk> Sorry.
[20:02] <MarKsaitis> the good thing about windows - it doesnt freeze software for years and it doesnt give a shit about the version, it just runs whatever software u install on it =)
[20:02] <pangolin> !language | MarKsaitis
[20:02] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no cursing here
[20:03] <Taek> frunk: not sure I understand the question fully
[20:03] <MarKsaitis> I didnt think windows is a bad word =)
[20:03] <dooma09> zykotick9: after i updated /etc/profile to change umask g=rwx. What command to use instead of reboot to take effect?
[20:03] <snama> haha
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  whatever software, even infected, you mean?
[20:03] <frunk> What I'm asking is if I will need to reinstall any drivers after I install this one for Linux. Like, will this linux driver I'm installing remove the current driver
[20:03] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, lets move along
[20:03] <snama> "in these parts of town, you better watch your tounge"
[20:03] <zykotick9> dooma09: sorry i'm not sure how one would apply umask after change?
[20:04] <motherbrain> curious I am use to old HDD MBR / partition table format / structure when are we making the switch to GPT based partition tables
[20:04] <bekks> frunk: Which "linux driver"?
[20:04] <frunk> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[20:04] <Taek> frunk: no you wont  need to reinstall drivers. however  updates may  occur, that will display in the software update manager
[20:04] <frunk> OKay.
[20:04] <motherbrain> is this only for newer 64 bit machine (I know it could be made for any bit machine but didn't know what new OS support this GPT
[20:05] <motherbrain> Does linux / ubuntu
[20:05] <motherbrain> windows
[20:05] <motherbrain> mac
[20:05] <bekks> motherbrain: GPT is independent from 32/64 bit.
[20:05] <motherbrain> I know
[20:05] <bekks> motherbrain: You just asked that.
[20:05] <motherbrain> But do all OS support this now. SInce I doubt windows 95 had the file driver to support this ;)
[20:06] <Taek> Not a place to ask about windows OSs
[20:06] <dageriv> I have openssh-server running, how can I remove it from startup and also kill the process? Its not listed in "startup applications"
[20:06] <motherbrain> Basically I am curious when the first windows, mac, and linux machine could use/provided support for GPT not that it is to complicated
[20:06] <guntbert> !ot | motherbrain
[20:07] <Taek> dageriv:  it would  be listed as SSHd
[20:07] <new2net> i just realized totem will play an audio file if you leave your mouse hovering over it in nautilus... :P neat
[20:07] <bekks> motherbrain: Windows, OSX, and Linux already support GPT.
[20:08] <llutz> dageriv: echo "manual" |sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.override
[20:08] <dageriv> Taek: nope
[20:08] <gmachine_24> Artemis3, the SanDisk memory card reader used to work on everything . In fact, the computer can "see" that the reader is plugged in as it ids them as /dev/sg2-/dev/sg5 . And, under >places>computer there are four icons for "Generic STORAGE DEVICE" ... however, putting a memory card in the reader doesn't change anything. i.e. the computer does not read the data.
[20:09] <Steevca> Ubuntu is reporting my graphic as unknown instead of galion.How do i get it to work?
[20:09] <bekks> Do you mean "Gallium" ?
[20:09] <gmachine_24> But this isn't even really my real question. It has to do with a computer that will no longer boot and I get to the initramfs > point and am lost but I need to post all that info so I will be back shorly.
[20:10] <bekks> If so, that will be - not that easy.
[20:10] <toastedpenguin> Anyone point me to a iptables how to for setting up routing between 1 "WAN" interface and 2 LAN interfaces, all are private IPs, I just need to be able to forward packets between the networks
[20:10] <Steevca> bekks, yes. :D
[20:10] <Steevca> Sorry. :D
[20:11] <bekks> Steevca: Good luck then :)
[20:11] <bazhang> toastedpenguin, try #netfilter
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> !iptables| toastedpenguin
[20:19] <kevin__> which is the lightest distro Linux Mint Debian XFCE or Linux Mint Julia 10 ?
[20:19] <markgifford> join #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <bazhang> kevin__, ask in mintsupport
[20:19] <kevin__> thanks
[20:22] <joker404> des français?
[20:23] <bazhang> joker404, #ubuntu-fr
[20:23] <joker404> ah pas bête
[20:25] <joker404> vous connaissez des bons films?
[20:26] <HorizonXP> is there any info on Intel Atom CedarView graphics support in Ubuntu?
[20:26] <HorizonXP> I'd like to find out about driver support prior to purchase.
[20:26] <HorizonXP> I know that PowerVR stuff isn't great, but I don't want to wait until 2013 for Intel to ditch them.
[20:26] <HorizonXP> What about the AMD Fusion stuff?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> HorizonXP  that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <HorizonXP> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks, appreciate the direction :)
[20:29] <ludwin01> does anybody make itunes work on lucid linx
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> ludwin01: look into 'wine'
[20:30] <svip> Anyone know where to look for crashes during high io load?
[20:31] <svip> I tried changing the schedulers, but that didn't do much.
[20:31] <ludwin01> yeah already did but there is any another way to manage the ipod touch?
[20:31] <auronandace> !itunes | ludwin01
[20:31] <auronandace> !ipod | ludwin01
[20:32] <ludwin01> @ubottu thanks man really appreciate your help
[20:32] <guntbert> svip: did you look into the logs?
[20:33] <svip> guntbert: I am going to reinstall.  Installing from Windows might have been a mistake.
[20:34] <guntbert> svip: I don't know about wubi, but ....
[20:35] <hatch> After an update on my Wubi installed Ubuntu 10.04 I'm getting 'error: coudln't read file \n press any key to continue...'
[20:35] <hatch> keypresses don't do anything
[20:35] <hatch> is there a way to boot to a different terminal with Wubi or is this thing bricked?
[20:36] <Escherial> does anyone happen to know why adding an app i've dragged to the launcher in ubuntu 11.10 unity doesn't show an icon?
[20:36] <Escherial> there's just a big blank space there, even though the icon shows up in the quick launcher (in fact, that's where i dragged it from)
[20:37] <angs> what is the directory that all user installed programs stored, like program files in windows?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> angs  /usr/bin/ -- programs are installed there automatically if they come from the repos
[20:39] <vlt> angs: /usr/local/ for example
[20:39] <angs> thanks
[20:41] <lacrymology> who was the idiot that added that + to python version number?
[20:41] <vlt> angs: Ah, I didn’t understand your question right: /usr/local/ is for programs the user installs himself (without the package manger). Files from packages go whereever they belong: /etc/ /usr/ /var/ …
[20:41] <gmachine_24> Can I upload a photo file or screen shot to the pastebin instead of typing out all the text on the screen?
[20:41] <lacrymology> damned distro retards who don't know better than sticking their noses in other people's code
[20:41] <Teligard> Who's the pro on fstab and path mapping of NAS's?
[20:42] <gmachine_24> !pastebin
[20:43] <guntbert> lacrymology: 1) ranting won't help   2) why here?
[20:44] <Teligard> http://pastebin.com/ide45pcb contains my current fstab, and has commented the areas that don't work as well as the ones that do
[20:44] <Teligard> The error I receive is that it can't find the path specified, but I can browse directly to it
[20:44] <Teligard> just can't map it in the fstab
[20:45] <lacrymology> guntbert: the internet seems to believe it was "the ubuntu people" who changed the python version number to 2.7.2+, python versions DON'T have +es in them, and that breaks just about everything
[20:46] <lacrymology> guntbert: everything = installing of other python packages
[20:46] <guntbert> lacrymology: we are not "the ubuntu people" - this channel is only for peer support
[20:47] <lacrymology> guntbert: well, damnit anyways ;)
[20:50] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ for my comp that won't boot but goes to (initramfs). Thank you in advance.
[20:50] <dackyshawn> ok i've been tasked with trying to find a secure file transfer method for a tax person... i found out everyone was emailing files to her unecrypted with social and earnings in the wide open
[20:50] <dackyshawn> anyone know of a way that i could embed some type of FTP thing to her website that will allow for easy secure file transfers
[20:50] <gmachine_24> dackyshawn I don't think polling is allowed
[20:50] <ZiggyTheHamster> I have what is hopefully a simple question. I need to see how much space that a package will use once installed without actually installing the package. apt-get install -s won't print the file sizes out and I don't want to actually go through with the installation so I'm reluctant to try it without -s
[20:51] <dackyshawn> polling?
[20:51] <dackyshawn> ZiggyTheHamster: it will tell you when you run the apt-get command
[20:51] <gmachine_24> dackyshawn, as in asking for the best software or technique for doing something
[20:51] <dackyshawn> and you just select "no" to install
[20:51] <dackyshawn> (that is if you dont want to install it)
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> dackyshawn: FTP is inherently insecure; SFTP would work but nothing supports it. I would recommend setting up a simple secure upload script (PHP/Perl/whatever) hosted on a HTTPS server
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> dackyshawn: Thanks. Will try now.
[20:52] <dackyshawn> ZiggyTheHamster: it'll say something like "the package <package name> will require <some bytes here> to install:
[20:52] <dackyshawn> or something like that
[20:52] <dackyshawn> dont know the exact wording
[20:52] <ZiggyTheHamster> yeah it did that
[20:53] <optimous> I want to set up an PPPoE Server in Ubuntu.. Consider me a N00B..
[20:53] <dackyshawn> hmmm
[20:54] <dackyshawn> never seen anyone set up there own PPPoE server before
[20:54] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/ anyone who can help with a boot problem. thanks.
[20:54] <optimous> well i just want to try that once.. ;)
[20:54] <dackyshawn> usually this is something done for dsl modems and what not
[20:54] <syddraf> Is there a reason that chmod would fail to set the proper permissions, but throw no error? I'm trying to "chmod +x script", and it isn't making it executable.
[20:54] <dackyshawn> optimous: what are you trying to do exactly?
[20:54] <dackyshawn> what do you need PPPoE for?
[20:55] <optimous> I want to share my Internet(With speed restrictins per user) in LAN..
[20:55] <dackyshawn> optimous: cuz i dont think u have the term correct
[20:55] <dackyshawn> oh then no you are not using the correct term
[20:55] <dackyshawn> u essentially want to turn your linux box into a router am I correct?
[20:56] <dackyshawn> optimous: ^^
[20:56] <optimous> well, i thought it would be done by the box..
[20:56] <guntbert> syddraf: what does ls -l   <thatfile>  say?
[20:56] <dackyshawn> optimous: ummm yes... but the term is not PPPoE that is something completely different
[20:56] <optimous> since i too want to implement the authentication for users to get access..
[20:57] <dackyshawn> optimous: then you want your linux box to be a router with Proxy authentication
[20:57] <optimous> as I've seen some private broadband providers giving broadband access, with a LAN cable.. rather the ADSL...
[20:57] <dackyshawn> huh?
[20:58] <dackyshawn> optimous: you already have internet correct?
[20:58] <optimous> yes..
[20:58] <dackyshawn> PPPoE is a protocol its not what you want to use for your LAN
[20:58] <dackyshawn> it's used for ISPs to talk with their equipment primarily
[20:58] <dackyshawn> tho cable providers that i know of dont usually use PPPoE (dsl providers do tho)
[20:59] <dackyshawn> optimous: how many network cards do you have in your linux box?
[20:59] <optimous> I've analysed that with Wireshark, and it's PPPoE..
[20:59] <dackyshawn> how does wireshark tell you it's PPPoE
[20:59] <dackyshawn> ?
[20:59] <optimous> i've analysed the packets sent when connecting to the Broadband service...
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ok.... well do you have a router already?
[21:00] <optimous> yes..
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ok is it provided by your ISP
[21:00] <dackyshawn> or is it your own?
[21:00] <optimous> ISP Just provides a LAN Connection, nothing else..
[21:00] <dackyshawn> ISP doesnt provide LAN
[21:00] <dackyshawn> they provide WAN
[21:01] <dackyshawn> it goes ISP --> MODEM --> router
[21:01] <optimous> I mean, the Broadband provider...
[21:01] <dackyshawn> yes that is your ISP
[21:01] <dackyshawn> ISP = Internet Service Provider
[21:01] <guntbert> !enter | dackyshawn
[21:01] <dackyshawn> who ever provides your internet is your ISP
[21:02] <dackyshawn> enter wasnt beign used as punctuation... they were new thoughts hence why they were on new lines... sorry i am a fast typer
[21:02] <optimous> See, to get the Broadband servicem the Provider set up a LAN cable till my Box, and then gave me username & password..
[21:02] <dackyshawn> optimous: PPPoE is a method that your ISP uses to allow clients to dial up to them, this is not something you run on a WAN
[21:02] <syddraf> guntbert: -rw------- 1 syddraf syddraf 293 2012-04-05 15:54 script.sh
[21:03] <zykotick9> syddraf: you sh script doesn't seem to have execute... just sayin'
[21:04] <syddraf> zykotick9: Please read my original post. I am trying to run "chmod +x script.sh", but it is not giving exec permissions.
[21:04] <guntbert> syddraf: and now the output of     ls -ld  .     please   (mind the dot!)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: is it stored on an ntfs or fat partition?
[21:05] <syddraf> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[21:05] <Phraktal> anyone knows how to get mysqlnd in php5 on ubuntu ?
[21:05] <syddraf> guntbert : drwx------ 1 syddraf syddraf 0 2012-04-05 16:02 .
[21:05] <zykotick9> syddraf: fat/ntfs doesn't support POSIX permissions
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: thats why then
[21:05] <syddraf> So I can't execute scripts from an ntfs partition?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: crappy ntfs dude
[21:05] <zykotick9> syddraf: "sh script.sh"
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: thanks
[21:06] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: thx for spotting
[21:06] <syddraf> Thanks everyone. I was unaware of needing that. I rarely
[21:06] <syddraf> execute anything from this drive.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: shoots his finger gun
[21:07] <syddraf> I am kind of surprised that chmod doesn't say *something* though.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: zykotick9's command will work, you cannot mark things as executable in NTFS, it cannot hold advanced Linux permissions. You'd need to mount it so ALL the files are executable
[21:07] <syddraf> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> syddraf: it does succeed, it just doesn't stick but it could say something
[21:07] <erratic> where are the php 5.4 packaages for ubuntu
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !info php5
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[21:08] <erratic> yeah seems like they're missing how come
[21:08] <tim> Hi
[21:08] <auronandace> erratic: because 5.4 was released after 11.10
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-upgrade-install-php-540-under.html
[21:09] <iceroot> erratic: ubuntu will never release a major update in a release
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: how long did that take me?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> you can mount ntfs/vfat where everything is executable.. but thats eve more annoying.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> erratic: 120 seconds, must be a record
[21:09] <erratic> ./ignore
[21:09] <iceroot> erratic: so you have to use a ppa, build it from source, use backports or something like that
[21:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: you are very slow :)
[21:09] <erratic> ty!
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: yeahm I stopped to order a pizza
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> erratic: all I did was search the web
[21:10] <erratic> k
[21:10] <erratic> thx
[21:10] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: there is a nice irssi-script to order pizza :)
[21:10] <gabrielo_> s
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sweet
[21:11] <PepeLinux> hi
[21:13] <edoceo> I'm using  1.0 on Ubuntu 12.04, seems like some of the roms that were present in 0.15 are not there?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> edoceo: #ubuntu+1 for Precise support please
[21:17] <JessicaW> LF help with iscsi ubuntu 10.04 server...
[21:17] <JessicaW> I have a dell R810 with 4 network interfaces running ubuntu server 10.04. I'm trying to direct connect a dell md3220i iscsi SAN. I have ETH0 set to the main network and it's working fine. The IP address of the SAN ETH0 is 192.168.130.101. I added ETH1 to /etc/network/interfaces and installed open-iscsi.
[21:18] <JessicaW> When I ifup eth1, it connects to the SAN via iscsi and then I can no longer ping or connect to ETH0
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: check your routing table?
[21:20] <JessicaW> not yet. route command right?
[21:20] <JessicaW> kind of new to this.
[21:22] <JessicaW> netstat -rn. got it. what am I looking for specifically?
[21:23] <Steevca> Chromium is reporting a missing plug-in on some youtube videos.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: just:  route     will do, your default will obviously need to be going through not the iscsi
[21:24] <JessicaW> the default is going through eth0 but I currently have eth1 down
[21:26] <JessicaW> when I ifup eth1 I can no longer connect to it. Also, I noticed it reverts my hostname for 127.0.0.1 in etc/hosts to an old name we haven't used in a while.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thats normal, when you bring the interface up, check the route table again
[21:29] <JessicaW> oh. wow. yeah, it makes both ETH0 and ETH1 default
[21:29] <JessicaW> that's where the problem is right?
[21:30] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I should probably learn IRC niceties and address you personally huh...
[21:35] <iroquois> is there a brand of UPS's that make software that's linux compatible?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thanks :)
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: use tab to autocomplete
[21:37] <netbus> ActionParsnip: woah, i never knew the tab trick!!!!!!!!1
[21:37] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: oh that's so handy. Thanks.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> netbus: works in terminal too ;)
[21:37] <netbus> ActionParsnip: i knew that part :P
[21:37] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: hahaha. *nods*
[21:38] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: so how do I make it so that it doesn't make eth1 a default route too?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: you can add stuff in the interfaces file to do stuff but i'm not so sure.
[21:40] <Steevca> Chromium is playing yotube videos and just stops and shows silver banner in the middle of the screen : "missing plug-in"
[21:41] <bekks> JessicaW: How does you network interfaces config file looks like currently?
[21:41] <bekks> ! paste > JessicaW
[21:42] <JessicaW> I think the problem is having two default gateways in one routing table
[21:43] <sirknight> how do i setup samba for a local network , with ftp
[21:44] <sirknight> oh and hi everyone
[21:44] <Teligard2> ok, how do you rebuld an fstab from scratch?
[21:44] <JessicaW> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916635/
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: samba nad ftp are 2 different technologies
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> *and
[21:44] <DasEi> Teligard2: open a teminal ..
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: its either samba, or it's ftp
[21:45] <DasEi> Teligard2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo blkid | pastebinit,  give resulting url here
[21:45] <erratic> ONEIRIC THE OCELOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:47] <DasEi> !fstab | Teligard2
[21:47] <Steevca> I am expiriencing laggying in the uninty 2d when scrolling.
[21:47] <bekks> JessicaW: The solution is pretty clear. You are setting a second and third gateway for eth1 and eth2 (besides the one for eth0).
[21:47] <bekks> *default gateway
[21:47] <bekks> That breaks things then.
[21:47] <JessicaW> bekks: how do I fix it though?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: what GPU do you use?
[21:48] <bekks> Just put a # before that both lines and restart networking. That should fix it.
[21:48] <Steevca> ATI Radeon 9550 open source drivers.
[21:48] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, i was seeing ppl do both , setup samba first the ftp into samba
[21:48] <JessicaW> bekks: according to the SAN documentation it needs a gateway
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: you can have both if you want
[21:48] <DasEi>  Teligard2 ?
[21:48] <bekks> JessicaW: then you have to set a dedicated route, and not another default gateway
[21:49] <bekks> JessicaW: Give it a shot without the gateway :)
[21:50] <JessicaW> bekks: :P you win. and I love you right now.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: thats why its a community :)
[21:51] <Steevca> ActionParsnip, i am only experiencing the lag in the app. section in unity 2d.
[21:51] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, ok ... i need a samba  for local network , then a bowser like ftp  to get into file for the net on a differnt machine  like public wifi
[21:51] <erratic> UPGRAYD GOIN FIND U
[21:51] <JessicaW> now I just have to figure out how to make the iscsi work
[21:51] <bekks> JessicaW: :)
[21:52] <hsnmck> hello, is there a way to create an alias for a value in linux, for example instead of writing "ssh 192.168.1.1" i would like to write "ssh routerIP"
[21:52] <hsnmck> thx
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: ftp isn't very secure at all
[21:52] <bekks> JessicaW: Basically I do doubt that the iscsi thing depends on a given gateway. If thats the case for that iscsi provider, they entirely broke their setup :)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: if you install openssh-server you will get an sftp server
[21:52] <Multbrelch> hsnmck, alias dir='ls -al'
[21:53] <JessicaW> hsnmck: dns
[21:53] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  whats that... sftp
[21:53] <bekks> hsnmck: Put "ipofrouter nameofrouter" in your /etc/hosts
[21:53] <hsnmck> Multbrelch: but alias works only for commands
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: secure ftp
[21:53] <Zal> sirknight, specifically, it is ftp-like access over ssh, in fact a subsystem of the ssh server
[21:53] <JessicaW> bekks: doesn't hosts get overwritten during upgrades?
[21:54] <hsnmck> bekks: well that was an example, but i wanted to know if i can create an alias for something
[21:54] <bekks> JessicaW: If so, I'll personally kill the developer who coded that.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: add to ~/.bashrc       alias servername='ssh 192.168.1.1'
[21:54] <JessicaW> lol
[21:54] <Escherial> is there any hope to get an application that maintains its own menubar into the unity bar?
[21:54] <Escherial> the app in question is pycharm, a python ide
[21:54] <boriseto> hello, i sorry for disturbing u guys, but i was wondering if somebody could help me with a grub problem i'm facing :/
[21:54] <Zal> ActionParsnip, one of my favorites! I have a gazillion of those
[21:55] <motherbrain> How is freebsd openbsd or opensolaris interms of supported x86 hardware /machines
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Zal: same :)
[21:55] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip: is it possible to make the alias only for the ip instead of the whole command
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> motherbrain: ask in #bsd
[21:55] <Escherial> i'm debating giving up on unity after all of the issues i've faced :\
[21:55] <sirknight> Zal,  i need it simple enough for a noob to send files from the office to the compuer im on now , which will be the server
[21:55] <bekks> hsnmck: I just told you :)
[21:55] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  ok.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: you could make an alias for the servername, not the IP (as far as I'm aware)
[21:56] <boriseto> anyone?
[21:56] <Escherial> the slideout sidebar, for instance, is highly unfriendly to anyone who uses an ide that makes significant use of the lefthand part of the screen
[21:56] <hsnmck> ok.. thanks
[21:56] <Zal> sirknight, well, most good FTP clients will probably also support SFTP, so that shouldn't be an issue.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: nautilus can connct to SSHFS easily
[21:57] <Zal> hsnmck, sure, you can have: alias myserver="ssh -l special -P5555 ssh.mynetwork.com" or whatever
[21:57] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  there no one going to hack me  ... and theres not much of of important files... well maybe kittys
[21:57] <Escherial> on the topic of nautilus and sshfs, you should beware of a flaky connection or, say, having to sleep your laptop...
[21:57] <Steevca> Can i install GTK3 themes in unity?
[21:57] <Zal> sirknight, you'd be surprised how many people will be glad to hack you
[21:58] <Escherial> it'll basically have a heart attack if your connection breaks (say, if you exceed the range of your wifi access point)
[21:58] <sirknight> ActionParsnip, Zal  i must get the samba up first
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: install the samba package and you can use nautilus to setup shares
[21:58] <Escherial> i feel fuddy today :\
[21:59] <lambdan> whats your guys highest uptime?
[22:00] <bencc> can I use apt-get source to get a package from a previous ubuntu release?
[22:01] <Zal> lambdan, about 4'1"
[22:01] <DasEi> lambdan: #ubuntu-offttopic, not my time today
[22:01] <lambdan> sorry
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> lambdan: my girlfriend says about 10 mins on a good day ;)
[22:03] <sirknight> Zal,  well they just ask me what  they want and ill give them the proxies of there life,
[22:06] <DasEi> bencc: not without trouble, as packets depend on other ones
[22:06] <Jordan_U> !language | ActionParsnip
[22:06] <DasEi> bencc: rather set up a vm on a previous release
[22:07] <bencc> DasEi: can I just download a specific package?
[22:07] <daniellog> Hi, I'm having some trouble trying to set up a KVM virtual machine on a server on my LAN, could anyone help me?
[22:08] <wylde> bencc: yes, but you will have to solve dependacy issues manually.
[22:08] <Jordan_U> !details | daniellog
[22:08] <netbus> !language | Jordan_U
[22:08] <DasEi> bencc: packages mostly depend on certain libs and other prerequisits, so need a stable environment
[22:08] <Teligard2> !fstab
[22:09] <DasEi> Teligard2: ask if questions, and the pastie ?
[22:09] <Teligard2> I figured out howto get the mappings to work, but inadvertantly overwrote the proc and other default mappings, and need to get them back
[22:10] <daniellog> I have a problem with ubuntu server 11.10 with kvm installed, I'm trying to use virt-manager to remotely connect to the instance to create a virtual machine, I'm able to connect to it but it can't see the local ubuntu installer disc in the server, I just get "Could not find media '/dev/sr1'"
[22:12] <skel> daniellog: to be clear, /dev/sr1 exists where libvirtd is running? the remote kvm host?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> daniellog: I'm familiar with kvm but not virt-manager. Do you know how to find the exact kvm command which is being run?
[22:13] <skel> daniellog: if so, it might be a group security issue with libvirt-qemu user not having access to /dev/sr1 or where it gets mounted. Have you tried just using isos?
[22:13] <wylde> daniellog: do you have the iso in an nfs/samba/nbd/ssh/etc... network share? If not the you'll have to move the installation file to the remote machine, and mount it into the VM from there.
[22:14] <daniellog> I think so, if I connect through putty I can see links cdrom1 -> sr1 etc (to be clear I have two dvd drives on the server)
[22:14] <daniellog> well I was following this guide
[22:14] <daniellog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[22:15] <wylde> daniellog: in all truth you'll have fewer headaches just moving the iso over to the remote machine. IMHO.
[22:15] <Mean_Admin_> In Unity, under Software Center, I'm attempting to install GNOME Shell but the Install button is absent and instead, I find a greyed out "Use This Source" that would allow me to the universe repository
[22:15] <daniellog> ok so shall I just copy it onto a flash drive or something?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: try:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:16] <Teligard2> How do I find the UUID's necessary to remap my default items in the fstab?
[22:16] <wylde> daniellog: do you have remote access to the the server? If so just copy the iso to the remote machine over the network. I meant that doing a remote install with remote media is leaving yourself open for LOTS to go wrong. ;)
[22:16] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: no such package :(
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Teligard2: sudo blkid
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[22:17] <brianm> are there any docs for creating a ppa?
[22:17] <daniellog> yeah its on my local network, where should I copy it to on the server?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: did you enable the universe repo?
[22:17] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: I did but... I did not update ... brb, Im probalby an idiot
[22:17] <wylde> daniellog: somewhere that the user running the VM has access to.
[22:18] <brianm> google onlys eems to find things for using launchpad's ppa
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:18] <daniellog> would I need to add it kvm as some sort of storage pool?
[22:19] <wylde> daniellog: you'll need to know how to get to the iso to have the VM mount it as sr1 :)
[22:19] <daniellog> so your saying copy it over to the server, then mnt the iso to /dev/sr0?
[22:20] <fission6> how do i let any user write to a folder?
[22:20] <wylde> daniellog: yep
[22:20] <hiexpo> fission6, add user is all
[22:21] <daniellog> ok I'll give it a try now
[22:21] <wylde> daniellog: sorry I can be more specific, I've used kvm but don't have it available to check on commands and whatnot.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> fission6: sudo chmod o+w folder
[22:21] <haux> How do I configure ubuntu to boot into command line, so I have to type startx to get into xfce? ...rather than loading directly to the gui login.
[22:22] <Mean_Admin_> ActionParsnip: yea, I was an idiot, no apt-get update, thanks
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> haux: add the boot option:   text
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin_: its groovy
[22:22] <hiexpo> oops soory didn't know it was to a specific folder
[22:22] <daniellog> @wylde its ok I'll just try to mount it
[22:22] <Teligard2> Thank you :-)
[22:22] <haux> ActionParsnip, where do I add this? grub?
[22:23] <daniellog> I'm looking at open source hypervisors and how they compare to close source ones for my university project, been trying to get KVM working all day which isn't good :P
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> haux: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   change this line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    to      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text"     save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub
[22:24] <bekks> ActionParsnip: thats done with a kernel cmd line in ubuntu? wow. :)
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bekks: well, there are  2 commands, one to edit the file and one to apply it
[22:25] <gear4> hihi
[22:25] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I'm just wondering that it's basically a kernel cmdline thing. didnt know that
[22:25] <gear4> Why doesn't mod_rewrite exist ? (I try to enable it)
[22:26] <hiexpo> hi/hi ActionParsnip
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> bekks: oh yeah, you just add that and it will not load the UI login thing
[22:26] <wylde> gear4: uhhh did you install and enable the mod?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> hi hiexpo :)
[22:26] <TRAVISg> Problem with Chromium in ubuntu 11.10. Won't start terminal says. Segmentation fault refers to apps/chromium.rc not existing
[22:26] <gear4> wylde, that's the thing: How ?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:26] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Seems a bit odd in terms of runlevels, but ok :)
[22:27] <hiexpo> should give the name of the release I think
[22:28] <gear4> wylde, that's the thing: How ?
[22:28] <TRAVISg> oneiric
[22:28] <wylde> gear4: moment
[22:28] <gear4> wylde, kk
[22:29] <Teligard2> anyone familiar with this error:
[22:29] <Teligard2> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: you could try:    mv ~/.config/chromium ~/.config/chromium_old       then rerun the browser
[22:29] <Stelpa> hey, i've got a stupid question
[22:29] <Teligard2> I get a notification that I need to adjust my audiosettings, but have no idea where to go
[22:29] <fishcooker> hello fellas
[22:29] <Stelpa> how can you go about removing the ".sh" extension on a bash script
[22:30] <fishcooker> how to know the ubuntu series from command line?
[22:30] <Stelpa> oh god
[22:30] <Stelpa> hahaha
[22:30] <Teligard2> Stelpa: mv filename.sh filename
[22:30] <Stelpa> nevermind
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Stelpa: use the mv command
[22:30] <Zal> Stelpa, just rename the file.
[22:30] <Stelpa> lol
[22:30] <FloodBot1> Stelpa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <Stelpa> just realize you can rename it >_<
[22:30] <fishcooker> from command line ?
[22:30] <Stelpa> sorry about that, told you it was stupid! :D
[22:31] <fishcooker> ou i c from cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:31] <ldiamond> is there a way to verify that a usb stick is still good? i.e. write / read to see if it's got dead "sectors"
[22:31] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to natty in such charm way
[22:31] <wylde> gear4: sorry, was on the phone and flipping papers everywhere heh.
[22:32] <gear4> np wylde lol
[22:32] <fishcooker> i do in $ apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:32] <fishcooker> but not success
[22:32] <wylde> gear4: sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache2 restart
[22:32] <wylde> gear4: errr I assumed apache2, I hope I assumed correctly
[22:32] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to the next release?
[22:32] <gear4> ah
[22:32] <gear4> yes
[22:33] <fishcooker> in charm way?
[22:33] <gear4> apache2
[22:33] <gear4> fishcooker, update-manager -d
[22:33] <fishcooker> no luck gear4
[22:33] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip it's running starts do you want output?
[22:33] <atome> hi there
[22:33] <fishcooker> in command line
[22:33] <fishcooker> i prefer
[22:33] <gear4> oh
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> gear4: thats for development versions, not to Oneiric
[22:33] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip doesn't look quite right
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | fishcooker
[22:33] <fishcooker> should i change the sources.list
[22:34] <gear4> ActionParsnip, I upgrade to Oneiric like that
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> gear4: yes, when oneiric was in development
[22:34] <atome> I'm on kubuntu 11.10 I recently update the kernel via apt (3.0.0-18-generic) and since this time all is completly crashy, ow can I downgrade proprely my kernel ??
[22:34] <gear4> ActionParsnip, no
[22:34] <gear4> When release
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: run the browser now and you will have a default profile, does it run ok?
[22:35] <fishcooker> thanks actionparsnip
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> gear4:      read update-manager    ;)
[22:35] <atome> some one can help me ?
[22:35] <gear4> ActionParsnip, kk
[22:36] <fishcooker> in command line actionparsnip
[22:36] <fishcooker> ?
[22:36] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip no it starts but when I try to sign in it quits would you like the output?
[22:36] <fishcooker> i've no luck there
[22:37] <fishcooker> esp with update manager
[22:37] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip now it is back to not opening at all
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: strange, you can rename the old profile back if you want the old profile back :), I'd report a bug
[22:37] <dlentz> atome, if you didn't remove the previous kernel, you can still boot into it
[22:37] <bkerensa> TRAVISg: surely report a bug :)
[22:37] <Felishia> hi! it's me again :P
[22:38] <dlentz> atome, hold shift at boot to access the grub menu and choose the kernel
[22:38] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip never done that don't know how
[22:38] <Felishia> any idea on voice recognition on ubuntu bash
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: run:   ubuntu-bug chromium-browser
[22:38] <accipter> When installing python packages, apt-get is installing python2.6 versions, but /usr/bin/python is point to /usr/bin/python2.7. How do I have apt-get select 2.7 instead?
[22:39] <atome> mmm
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Felishia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[22:39] <dlentz> accipter, you can use galternatives package to select default python version
[22:39] <mongy> atome: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119223/updating-to-3-0-0-18-generic-new-linux-kernel-ubuntu-carshed
[22:40] <atome> dlentz: and if I apt-get remove && apt-get autoremove the last kernel still there ?
[22:40] <fishcooker> actionparsnip, there is no show new distribution release
[22:40] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip entered ubuntu-bug chromium-browser  output was segmentation fault. Is that what I wanted?
[22:40] <dlentz> apt-get remove what?
[22:40] <atome> thx mongy I check :)
[22:40] <Guest95808> is it right for me to choose Ubuntu Server ?!
[22:40] <fishcooker> on the software sources
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: use the server method, much easier
[22:40] <fishcooker> where is it
[22:40] <fishcooker> ?
[22:40] <atome> oups dlentz I would say apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean
[22:41] <Felishia> going to check :)
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest95808: if you need a desktop UI, install the desktop
[22:41] <dlentz> atome, that doesn't remove an old kernel, so you should still have it
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: its on the same page
[22:42] <fishcooker> ou sorry actionparsnip
[22:42] <fishcooker> im on oneiric btw
[22:42] <fishcooker> how to upgrade to 12 PP
[22:42] <fishcooker> ?
[22:42] <Guest95808> i joined recently a retail business with pc power as 10 PC's and 4 cashier
[22:42] <Guest95808> ?!
[22:42] <fishcooker> sorry
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: oh then you want:  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[22:42] <Guest95808> do you recommend me >!?
[22:42] <accipter> dlentz: I don't want to change from python2.7
[22:42] <fishcooker> i've check out at /etc/lsb-release
[22:42] <atome> guys you are so cool merci :)
[22:43] <Guest95808> to use the Ubuntu server or Windows 2008 server instead ?!
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest95808: what is the server going to do?
[22:44] <Guest95808> just ERP application(finance , commercial , HR , WH ) and the files server with backup capability ,,
[22:45] <alfredo> hi, help with debugging shell
[22:46] <alfredo> needing help please
[22:47] <Felishia> well I'll be more specific this time :)
[22:47] <Felishia> I have a bash executable
[22:47] <Felishia> that runs a python script according to a given input
[22:47] <Felishia> the input is a command
[22:47] <Felishia> but I want the input to be a voice input
[22:48] <Felishia> how can I do that?
[22:49] <gtech__> So when I use ctrl-alt-F1 my screen goes psychadelic and freezes, I can go back to my normal x-session by hitting ctrl-alt-F8, I'm assuming this is a video card driver issue, my xorg.conf shows intel as the driver but I'm not sure what version I'm using and wheneer I try to switch to an nvidia driver I just get a blank screen my graphics card is a NVS 3100M which can switch to intel integrated graphics
[22:50] <gtech__> I guess my first question is how do I find out what specific driver I'm using?
[22:53] <Rave1> .
[22:54] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip Tried running ubuntu-bug chromium-browser it just said segmentation fault
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: oh man, not good
[22:55] <CJKay> 'Sup guys, the update manager doesn't seem to give me any option to update to 12.04 even though I've got it to notify of any update (not just LTS)
[22:55] <BobMarley> this chat room must be the biggest one, 1559 users..
[22:55] <jrib> CJKay: 12.04 hasn't been released yet
[22:56] <CJKay> Well there already appears to be guides to update to it, and one of the bug fixes of a problem I have was to update to Precise
[22:56] <jrib> CJKay: it hasn't been released yet.  It's in beta.
[22:56] <ggherdov> hi all. Amateur sysadmin down here. I'd like to embellish my apache with FastCGI, what is my XY in "apt-get install XY" to get this done?
[22:56] <CJKay> That's fine by me, I've always used beta releases
[22:56] <jrib> !12.04 | CJKay
[22:56] <CJKay> Ooh
[22:56] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip Okay I am sweating now... Fresh install time?
[22:56] <CJKay> Thanks
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !bug | TRAVISg
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: reinstall.....for a browser...?
[22:58] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip I thought that the failure to be able to report the bug might mean that there is a bigger problem
[22:59] <TRAVISg> ActionParsnip I am not very knowledgeable...yet
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> TRAVISg: there is a web interface you can use
[23:04] <naruto> slt tt monde
[23:04] <Kaleidoscope> Is it possible to install an OS through ubuntu on to a second HD Partition?
[23:05] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: no
[23:05] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: maybe with a vm which is writing directly to the hdd
[23:06] <iceroot> Kaleidoscope: but normally the os boot cd is the way to go
[23:06] <iceroot> !dualboot | Kaleidoscope
[23:07] <Kaleidoscope> iceroot, I would agree here, But my Laptops Disk drive has failed, and I don't have me a handy usb stick
[23:07] <Kaleidoscope> How might one go the VM route?
[23:08] <CJKay> Kaleidoscope: Set up a VMDK file that links to /dev/sd*
[23:08] <Kaleidoscope> CJKay, Alright, I'll give it a go, Thanks
[23:08] <CJKay> Mind, how exactly are you running the laptop if the drive has failed and you don't have a USB stick handy?
[23:09] <CJKay> Live CD?
[23:09] <Kaleidoscope> No, I already have linux installed on here, I just like to have a second one installed
[23:12] <DarsVaeda> how do I report kernel error? the newest kernel gives my machine a lot headaches, dozen of apps chrash on random events, but how do I report that?
[23:14] <iceroot> DarsVaeda: ubuntu-bug linux
[23:14] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, you sure it is kernel errors ? you know a lot of people are running it and so wants to start some troubleshooting ? (just saying)
[23:14] <iceroot> DarsVaeda: just use that command and apport will assist you
[23:14] <DarsVaeda> sure, I switched back to the older one and everything works as expected
[23:15] <DarsVaeda> though maybe some memory failure first too, but after that, I'm sure
[23:15] <DarsVaeda> iceroot: thanks
[23:15] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, ok, good start did you modify anything ?what happens during crash ? do you have core dumps ? do the application go away ?
[23:16] <DarsVaeda> mainly segfaults in chrome (at least it says so), in the kernellog there is only cryptic lines (for me) about some IP thing
[23:21] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, ok well it is difficult to help you, but you can report or if you have some logs anything in /var/log/messages ?
[23:22] <Malsasa> Hello, last night I have browsing with Oneiric. Then I don't know why, Unity crashed (strange) and I do sudo reboot. After reboot, I enter my password in LightDM. Appear black screen with so many messages (just 0.5 second) and the appearance back to LightDM. I enter my password again but the condition is same. I have tried this for +- 10 times. How to fix this? Thank you.
[23:22] <BryanRuiz> My iphone 4s pops up shotwell, bansee and two folders every time I plug the damn thing into me 11.4 with gnome.  What is the command to disable this?
[23:23] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: I will reboot into the failing kernel and check the logs, there are errors in it
[23:23] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda you can check no need to reboot now
[23:24] <Replicant> Malsasa, can you log in with another user?
[23:24] <Malsasa> Yes.
[23:24] <Malsasa> But appearance after login just a panel at top without any menu and any dash.
[23:25] <KingFisher> Hello...How do I route my browser through a shell account using a *nix OS?
[23:26] <Replicant> try to reset compiz config for that user
[23:26] <KingFisher> I need to make an HTTP proxy
[23:26] <KingFisher> basically
[23:26] <Malsasa> Unity DE is not appear, and maximum I can login to guest GNOME Classic only. But I want the complete one Unity. I don't know why my Unity become like this.
[23:26] <Malsasa> Replicant, how to reset Compiz?
[23:26] <Replicant> but first, to be sure
[23:27] <Malsasa> Replicant, to be sure...?
[23:27] <Replicant> can you log in with gnome 3 shell, xfce or another desktop environment?
[23:27] <XGaryG> Is there a setting somewhere for the system to remember where windows were? So my browser or whatever will reappear wherever they were before?
[23:27] <Malsasa> Just GNOME Classic in guest account.
[23:28] <Replicant> but the other account is broken also for GNOME Classic?
[23:28] <guest-MO894k> jj
[23:28] <Malsasa> Replicant, do you know what problem I have? I don't know why this problem happened.
[23:28] <guest-MO894k> üüü
[23:28] <KingFisher> How do I route my browser traffic through a shell account in Ubuntu?
[23:28] <KingFisher> Can I make an HTTP proxy with a shell account in Ubuntu?
[23:29] <Malsasa> Replicant, persistant. Another account shows only a bar on top but I can't access any menu.
[23:29] <Replicant> try this one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-reset-compiz-settings-to-default-system-settings-from-command-line.html
[23:29] <fishcooker> actionparsnip, no luck here
[23:29] <Malsasa> Replicant, thank you. I am opening your link.
[23:29] <Replicant> I had similar issue when playing with Compiz Malsasa
[23:30] <Replicant> no windows, no dock... etc
[23:30] <Malsasa> Replicant, hmmm, suddenly the Unity dead, no dock, no menu, like that?
[23:30] <spaceneedle> The top utility was reporting high cpu usage -18%--for Hud-service. It is now normal.
[23:30] <Replicant> exactly
[23:30] <Grivvel> Does anyone know why my computer would be dropping about one out of every two packets when the wireless signal is above 40/70 signal strength in iwconfig? If I just try to ping the router, about half the messages are dropped.
[23:31] <Replicant> so could be the same
[23:31] <Malsasa> OKay, I will try this.
[23:31] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: here is an example: http://pastebin.com/Ai2CzsUV
[23:31] <fishcooker> i cant update to PP
[23:31] <fishcooker> no luck still
[23:31] <fishcooker> anyone
[23:31] <fishcooker> with command line
[23:31] <beandog> Grivvel: try changing your channel
[23:32] <demonboy> is 12.04 still in ubntu +! for support
[23:32] <Malsasa> I have to restart. Thank you for your complete attention, Replicant.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: can you give the output of:   sudo do-release-upgrade -d     Thanks
[23:33] <jeremiah_> why does ubuntu keep freezing for me???
[23:33] <fishcooker> i've closed it
[23:33] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, you have 2 graphic cards ?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: rerun it.....
[23:33] <fishcooker> it said screen terminating
[23:33] <DarsVaeda> not that I know of
[23:36] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, lokks like a problem in  libpthread-2.13.so
[23:37] <DarsVaeda> got another two, nothing about any lib, just general protection
[23:38] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, well yes use apport information to report it
[23:38] <DarsVaeda> usually happend in browser either firefox or chrome with java, so I thought thats the problem but minutes ago it crashed nautilus while trying to load a folder with videos
[23:39] <DarsVaeda> now it crashed the bug reporter with segmentation fault...^^
[23:40] <DarsVaeda> nope can not report it via the tool, only get segfaults :(
[23:42] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
[23:43] <anadon> Hello!  I need some help getting my system to boot.  /boot got formatted, so kernel images and grub are gone.
[23:44] <DarsVaeda> phil_fl: oh yep got an thinkpad too, seems to be my problem, thanks
[23:45] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, seems that http://people.canonical.com/~herton/fpu_bug/ might fix your bug or wait a bit and it will be fixed
[23:46] <DarsVaeda> I'll try that too
[23:46] <phil_fl> DarsVaeda, that's only if you need this kernel though you might be ok like you are now
[23:48] <DarsVaeda> ahh its not my productive machine so I can "beta"-test
[23:53] <alteregod> hi
[23:53] <alteregod> i got  a weird message on my desktop, its darmok and jalad at tanagra, after i installed riker v.1
[23:58] <seroki> website is down episode 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlbrL1H1ngs&feature=plcp&context=C45f84b9VDvjVQa1PpcFMLYcWz_aNNAImt-TvC3hd8nv8D4PHDfuA=