[01:34] <allie83> just installed xubuntu, wondering if gnutella is supported still?
[01:34] <Unit193> What do you mean by "supported still"?
[01:34] <allie83> is the link from sourceforge worth getting
[01:35] <allie83> to run stable
[01:35] <Unit193> That's a protocol, maybe a client too.
[01:35] <Unit193> But you should find something in the repos, unless you know what you want/are doing.
[01:35] <allie83> repos
[01:35] <allie83> ?
[01:35] <genii-around> !repos
[01:36] <Unit193> genii-around: Dangit!
[01:36] <bazhang> !find gnutella
[01:36] <Unit193> gtk-gnutella
[01:36]  * Unit193 goes off
[01:36] <bazhang> !info gtk-gnutella | allie83
[01:37] <allie83> i know what it is, have used it on 9.04 and ubuntu 10.04 but wasn't supported in 11.10...hated unity so have switched to xububtu, just getting it up and running
[01:44] <lunaticus> hey guys
[01:45] <lunaticus> i need you help with xubuntu-alternate and usb-key
[01:46] <lunaticus> i use the parameter "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" on boot, and worked
[01:47] <lunaticus> but on tasksel, no install any package
[01:51] <lunaticus> please someone
[01:59] <allie83> facebook games are saying i need adobe flash 10 or greater, i have 11.2...how do i resolve this please?
[02:12] <lunaticus> i have success with a basic system install, but no with desktop
[02:13] <Unit193> Type   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <Unit193> If you are at a terminal.
[02:14] <lunaticus> yes i have
[02:15] <lunaticus> can i install xubuntu-desktop package from a usb-stick
[02:15] <lunaticus> ?
[02:16] <lunaticus> i'm in alternate usb-stick
[02:16] <Unit193> How did you make the stick?
[02:17] <lunaticus> unetbootin
[02:18] <lunaticus> and, i use the parameter "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" on boot
[02:18] <lunaticus> version is xubuntu-alternate 11.10
[03:53] <lunaticus> I walked around my problem
[03:54] <lunaticus> I created a local repository with the packages that were in the pen drive
[03:54] <lunaticus> 2 repositories were a main and the other universe and added due sources.lst
[03:54] <lunaticus> then simply ran an apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and resolved
[03:54] <lunaticus> Although this process should be transparent, it would be a bug?
[03:55] <lunaticus> thanks to all especially Unit193, the one who ventured to answer me ...
[03:59] <k_sze> I'm having some weird issues with gftp
[04:14] <k_sze> never mind... I don't know what the other ftp client did, but it didn't set the +x bit of the directory.
[07:15] <Vermicelli> Every time I run apt-get upgrade, update-manager also starts. I can't find a way to disable it, and I can't uninstall it without also taking xubuntu-desktop. Any ideas?
[07:15] <baizon> Vermicelli: yes
[07:15] <Vermicelli> baizon, please share with me?
[07:16] <knome> Vermicelli, the xubuntu-desktop package is just a metapackage, it provides you nothing after you've installed it once
[07:16] <knome> Vermicelli, this means it's okay to remove it
[07:16] <baizon> go software sources -> updates -> "When there are <security / other> updates".
[07:18] <Vermicelli> knome, thanks.
[07:19] <knome> np
[07:19] <Vermicelli> baizon, that is what I have set already.
[07:19] <baizon> thats why the update-manager is showing
[07:19] <Vermicelli> There is no "never" option for those, unfortuantely.
[07:19] <baizon> it will be "fixed" in 12.04
[07:23] <Vermicelli> Thanks. Can I throw another problem out?
[07:23] <baizon> of course
[07:25] <Vermicelli> SOmething buggy happened recently, where it looks like xfce4-desktop isn't working properly. I had lost my trash can icon, other icons had changed theme/appearance, my wallpaper disappeared, and whenever I log in, my userhome folder opens. I've tried manually restarting xfce4-desktop, but to no avail. I've been able to set a wallpaper through firefox only, not through normal settings.
[07:27] <Vermicelli> The process does appear to be running.
[07:27] <Sysi> run "rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions" and reloging, don't save session on logout
[07:27] <Sysi> desktop is xfdesktop unless you're using nautilus
[07:28] <Vermicelli> Sorry. Named the process from memory only; goofed up.
[07:30] <Vermicelli> If someone would vouch for Sysi's solution (I'm leery of any rm -rf), I'd be off to try it.
[07:31] <Sysi> removing old saved sessions is totally safe, you can use thunar as well
[07:32] <knome> yup, removing ~/.cache is fine
[07:32] <Vermicelli> Much appreciated.
[07:34] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/the-countdown-is-on/
[07:34] <Vermicelli> Seems to've done the trick. Thanks, again, Sysi.
[08:30] <david_> somebody know of a program that easily rename many file at one time?
[08:31] <david_> Used a good one on that came with linuxmint before
[08:35] <Sysi> thunar has bulk rename tool
[08:36] <david_> ok
[08:37] <david_> ah, nice. Thank you!
[09:27] <Simmons> hello guys
[09:28] <Simmons> can someone tell how te replace linux mint to xubuntu? i also have dualboot win7
[09:35] <ochosi> Simmons: well just make an install usb-stick, format the partition where you have linux mint and then install xubuntu on that
[09:36] <Simmons> grub will stay?
[09:36] <Simmons> with dual boot?
[09:37] <sk1tz0> the gui installer will reinstall grub and add the appropriate provisions for booting windows
[09:38] <sk1tz0> much the same way your mint install probaly did it originally
[09:39] <Simmons> so I just choose Somethine else -> Format Mint partition and on this partition install xubuntu that's it? :)
[09:40] <sk1tz0> yup
[09:40] <Simmons> what about swap partion do I need to foramt that too ?
[09:40] <Simmons> :D
[09:41] <sk1tz0> the installer should do it all itself...
[09:42] <sk1tz0> formatting the swap wont hurt.
[10:58] <Atlantic777> Where could I find some sys requirements for xubuntu?
[10:59] <knome> Atlantic777, what hardware do you have?
[10:59] <Atlantic777> knome: I'm want to install it on a friends machine, 512 MiB RAM, single core AMD, probably 1.6
[11:00] <Atlantic777> 1.6 GHz, VGA is ATi 9250 or something
[11:00] <Sysi> it will be slow but it should run okay
[11:01] <Atlantic777> How much RAM is ok to run smothly?
[11:02] <Sysi> 512, 256 might be enough, but webbrowsers easily take 200MB
[11:02] <Atlantic777> yeah, I know...
[12:21] <atario> Hi, just browsing.
[12:22] <baizon> hi hi
[12:23] <atario> Hi Hi Hi, just installed xubuntu :)
[12:38] <nabukadnezar43> hi, does anyone know where i can download xubuntu elementary icons? normal and dark ones
[13:16] <dv310p3r> morning, can I use compiz wobbly windows and rotate cube in xfce? I can't stand unity and gnome 3, i am looking for new desktop?
[13:19] <Sysi> dv310p3r: if you use compiz you can use all it's features
[13:19] <Sysi> and you can use compiz with xfce
[13:20] <dv310p3r> Sysi, nice. I think I'm making my move soon then. Any known mulitple monitor issues with Xfce by chance?
[13:21] <Sysi> may need a bit of setting up but nothing big
[13:23] <knome> depends much on the GPU
[13:24] <dv310p3r> So it's basically a good old desktop not forcing me to pretend I'm using a tablet that has a nice new linux kernel and that I can use the way I've been using Gnome 2 for years now? -- Sorry still a bit sour about the new Ubuntu direction.
[13:27] <dv310p3r> Wow, Panels are really well done in XFCE no need for AWN or other dock app... a bit impressed so far.
[13:27] <knome> one could take it that way.
[13:28] <dv310p3r> anyone know of a good place to get themes for xfce
[13:29] <knome> xfce-look.org is one, but i'm not sure how many of them support gtk3 even okayish
[13:32] <dv310p3r> knome, thanks anyhow... it's a start... gonna make the move tonight.
[13:32] <knome> good luck
[14:01] <martinphone> why does ctrl+alt+t dont open a terminual in xubuntu?
[14:02] <babble> martinphone: you can set an application shortcut for it, if you want. Apps > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard : Application Shortcuts
[14:02] <martinphone> babble, why are this shortcuts not included by default as in ubuntu?
[14:03] <babble> That's not a question I can answer for you, sorry.
[14:04] <Sysi> they aren't considered to be needed, I think they're there by default in 12.04
[14:04] <drc> martinphone: For a hint of the future:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultShortcutKeys#Detailed_specification
[14:08] <babble> is there an easy way to restart xfconfd that won't cause me to fallback to the default gtk2 appearance which can't be changed? I'm using xfconf-query to change the active-soundcard property in xfce4-mixer when I plug or unplug a USB headset (so that volume keys, and the volume control on the headset will work), but occasionally pulseaudio hangs when hotplugging the headset -- if I kill and restart pulseaudio, my xfconf-query no longer switches the active-car
[14:08] <babble> d property.
[14:27] <martinphone> is there any command to get rid of all deleted apps in my menus? I mean I have to get rid of the symlinks
[14:28] <babble> martinphone: the dead launcher is probably in /usr/share/applications
[14:29] <babble> if not there, also try /usr/local/share/applications
[14:29] <martinphone> babble, you mean, me getting rid of them one by one...
[14:29] <babble> in any case, you'll need root priveliges to remove items down inside /usr
[14:30] <babble> have you tried restarting your panel? they may actually be gone, and the menu hasn't quite updated yet
[14:30] <martinphone> could be
[14:30] <babble> try this:
[14:30] <babble> alt-f2
[14:30] <babble> killall xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel
[14:32] <martinphone> babble, am I logging out after executing that? DO I have to close all other opened processes?
[14:32] <babble> ech, my mistake.
[14:32] <babble> do them one at a time.
[14:32] <babble> if you've killed your pane, do alt-f2 again
[14:32] <babble> then:
[14:32] <Unit193> xfce4-panel -r  should work.
[14:32] <babble> xfce4-panel
[14:32] <babble> ah!
[14:32] <babble> -r :)
[14:32] <babble> I always forget it's got a reload option :)
[14:33] <martinphone> I didnt do anything yet. doing separately killall xfce4-panel AND THEN xfce4-panel
[14:33] <babble> Unit193's is better.
[14:33] <babble> in your run dialog, just this:
[14:33] <babble> xfce4-panel -r
[14:33] <martinphone> do I have to close all other open apps?
[14:33] <babble> no :)
[14:33] <martinphone> before proceeding?
[14:33] <martinphone> ok
[14:33] <babble> no, stay logged in.
[14:33] <babble> it'll be just fine
[14:34] <martinphone> yes, it worked
[14:34] <babble> check your menu
[14:35] <babble> if the dead launchers really were deleted, that should have refreshed your menu
[14:35] <martinphone> Some of them are gone, but others are still here
[14:36] <martinphone> originally from ubuntu I migrated to xubuntu
[14:36] <babble> I can't think of an easy way to automatically remove them all
[14:36] <martinphone> no worries, in 3 weeks 12.04 is out
[14:36] <babble> how many dead launchers are we talking about? five? 20?
[14:36] <martinphone> hehe....
[14:36] <martinphone> like 70 all of them in the "other" category
[14:37] <babble> if you have that many launchers still in there, are you sure this is for something that's been uninstalled?
[14:37] <martinphone> now im with http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[14:37] <martinphone> to try a pure xfce
[14:37] <martinphone> babble, remember dddeeexxxtteerrr?
[14:38] <babble> oh, good lord.
[14:38] <babble> what on earth are you doing?
[14:38] <martinphone> babble, getting a pure xfce
[14:38] <babble> have fun
[14:38] <martinphone> but dont worry too much, in 2 days ill get a hDD
[14:38] <martinphone> and copy all impartant data there
[14:44] <martinphone> with firefox, is there any way I can see the screen like when you press f11, but with the "file edit view bookmarks..." line included?
[14:45] <martinphone> or, do I have to ask this in the firefox channel instead?
[14:46] <Sysi> martinphone: try Alt F11
[14:48] <martinphone> thx Sysi
[14:53] <martinphone> this does not depend on firefox, but xubuntu, right?
[15:01] <mongy> 12.04 has a fullscreen window menu option and binding, which is nice.
[15:56] <martinphone> what photo album app should I use? kphotoalbum?
[15:56] <martinphone> fspot?
[16:02] <mongy> gthumb is decent, but all depends what you want it to do.
[16:10] <martinphone> didnt saw it, comes by default
[16:12] <mongy> ugh, where has the visual bit gone from autoscroll in chrome.
[16:59] <G__81> why is canonical supporting Xubuntu when its main product is Ubuntu , just curious to know this
[16:59] <G__81> is Xubuntu a community project only or do people work on Xubuntu in Canonical as such ?
[17:00] <pleia2> it's a community project
[17:00] <pleia2> anyone working on it who happens to work at Canonical is doing Xubuntu work in their free time (I can only think of one person though)
[17:01] <pleia2> it's a recognised flavor, which means they're helping our community by providing development space and infrastructure to work on our project
[17:02] <pleia2> I don't know why they do it business-wise, because they are nice? :)
[17:14] <dv310p3r> I'm almost ready to make the switch from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. One big issue I have a question about is dual monitors. I have a dual monitor setup with my laptop where I have my external monitor above my laptop monitor. So I need to be able to set up like this. Is this possible.
[17:15] <Sysi> easily, if it worked on ubuntu
[17:15] <dv310p3r> I ask because in running Xubuntu in my VM I don't see way to position the monitors like I do in Ubuntu 10.10's display settings.
[17:15] <Sysi> use arandr
[17:15] <dv310p3r> i can apt-get that?
[17:15] <Sysi> of course
[17:16] <dv310p3r> cool, gonna test now.
[17:21] <dv310p3r> Sysi, looks like that might do the trick. Thanks.
[19:08] <Mordy> hello can someone help how to get back panel 1 I accidently removed ?
[19:09] <drc> You actually removed it on purpose or it just disappeared?
[19:09] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#One_Panel_Disappeared
[19:09] <Mordy> I removed
[19:09] <Mordy> it
[19:10] <Mordy> i only have bottom dock
[19:11] <Unit193> Should be able to remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ hit alt+f2 and run  xfce4-panel -r
[19:14] <Mordy> I need to remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel/?
[19:14] <pleia2> that would get rid of all your customized settings
[19:14] <pleia2> you can't "get back" a panel you deleted, but you can add a new one
[19:15] <drc> whew...I was wondering what rock I had been under :)
[19:15] <pleia2> go to Settings > Settings Panager > Panel
[19:15] <Mordy> how to delete ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ this directory?
[19:15] <Mordy> in terminal?
[19:16] <Unit193> Mordy: Do you want to reset your panel config (which will get your panel back), or just add the panel back (which will save your other changes to panels)?
[19:16] <Mordy> I want original panel back I have fresh installiton of xubuntu :)
[19:17] <Unit193> You can open a terminal and type  rm -rv ~/.config/xfce4/panel/
[19:17] <Unit193> Then hit  alt+F2 and type   xfce4-panel -r
[19:19] <Mordy> done but nothing happend
[19:19] <Mordy> only icons dissaphered from bottom dock
[19:20] <Unit193> cp -r /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel ~/.config/xfce4/   but it should have automagically pulled it in, it did for me that time...
[19:21] <Mordy> ok i will try
[19:23] <Mordy> i typed this and terminals just jump in new line
[19:23] <Unit193> Try logging out and back in now, it copied the defaults back.
[19:29] <Mordy> ok I'm back still the same problem
[19:30] <Unit193> Could that be a cached session in .cache?
[19:30] <well_laid_lawn> pkill xfce4-panel &&  rm -rv ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ && xfce4-panel &
[19:31] <Mordy> ok will try here is the link how looks like now shrani.si/f/2S/uM/cLcBLw9/screenshot-04052012-0930.png
[19:35] <Mordy> ok it killed bottom dock
[19:35] <Mordy> do i need to log out again?
[19:36] <Mordy> or I will just install xubuntu 1 more time :D
[19:37] <well_laid_lawn> pkill xfce4-panel &&  rm -rv ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ && xfce4-panel &   is one command and should have restarted the panel
[19:38] <Mordy> nothing happend
[19:38] <Mordy> [3] 1675 [2]   Exit 1
[19:39] <Mordy> this is what I get when I typed in this
[19:40] <well_laid_lawn> any panel showing? - it's hard to see from here
[19:40] <Unit193> Unless somehow he's using a different panel, maybe ps aux |grep panel
[19:40] <Unit193> ?
[19:41] <Mordy> no, now im without panels
[19:41] <Mordy> only icons on dekstop
[19:41] <Mordy> will try logout
[19:43] <Mordy__> bottom panel is back like I show you before
[19:43] <Mordy__> im gonna just reinstall so don't bother  :D
[20:05] <martinphone> I have cleaned my laptop of all ubuntu, kubuntu and lubuntu packages aiming for a clean xfce installation, but instead of plymouth for both log in and out I get "ubuntu studio, linux for creative humenas"
[20:05] <martinphone> where did that come from?
[20:08] <muntiKubu_> martinphone: did u install a fresh xubuntu?
[20:09] <martinphone> muntiKubu_, no http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[20:15] <martinphone> can you guys use parole with kernel 3.0.0.18?
[20:15] <martinphone> it segfaults for me, am I the only one?
[20:18] <Unit193> I think one of the M* nicks was having problems with it.
[20:22] <martinphone> will xubuntu 12.04 fit into a cd?
[20:22] <Unit193> Yep.
[20:48] <mongy> martinphone: thats the kernel bug
[20:48] <mongy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/119223/updating-to-3-0-0-18-generic-new-linux-kernel-ubuntu-carshed
[20:52] <martinphone> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/desktop/... 64 bits is amd64, right?
[20:53] <Unit193> Basically, yes.
[20:53] <Unit193> You can use 32 on a 64 machine though.
[20:53] <martinphone> what do you mean basically?
[20:54] <Unit193> It is, yep.
[20:54] <martinphone> Unit193, my I ask which one you use?
[20:54] <Unit193> 32.
[20:54] <martinphone> ok
[20:55] <Unit193> address sizes: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual   I can't use 64.
[20:55] <martinphone> i wish all torrents woudl be so fast as this one :)
[20:55] <martinphone> were*
[20:58] <martinphone> what will happen if my machine cannot support 64 bits? will it just not load?
[20:59] <Unit193> Yep, but you can check first.
[21:03] <Somnath> hello
[21:04] <martinphone> I cannot mount usb sticks, when I try, file manager closes