[01:10] <BarkingFish> morning all :)  How do I request that we take something into kubuntu that we don't appear to have?  I need a keyboard layout for Inuktitut, and we don't have one as far as I can see :)
[02:31] <ScottK> Is there a package in Debian already?
[06:57] <bambee> morning, mhhh... when I start my session with kde 4.8.2 (from the ppa) the sound played on login loops forever :\
[08:09] <Riddell> bambee: uh oh
[08:37] <Riddell> afiestas: akonadi-google-daily building again, I have high hopes of it building this time https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/akonadi-google-daily
[09:05] <Peace-> Riddell: are you here?
[09:05] <Peace->  i was be able to fix a bug  to share with samba
[09:05] <Peace-> and dolphin
[09:11] <Riddell> Peace-: groovy, send it to the dolphin mailing list
[09:15] <Peace-> Riddell: it's a ubuntu bug
[09:16] <Peace-> Riddell: if you have not wins before dns on etc/nsswitch.conf
[09:16] <Peace-> you can't browser your computer with samba
[09:16] <Peace-> and of course you need sudo apt-get install samba kdenetwork-filesharing libpam-winbind winbind
[09:16] <Peace-> after that dolphin works fine
[09:17] <Peace-> like nautilus
[09:18] <Riddell> Peace-: aah, well the ubuntu server team would be the folk to sort that, post to their mailing list
[09:19] <Riddell> or work out who has uploaded samba recently and ping them
[09:22] <Peace-> Riddell: btw  even dependeces are worng 
[09:22] <Peace-> because without winbind you can not browse
[09:22] <Peace-> wrong
[09:56] <Riddell> ug yet another mess up on 4.8.2 in oneiric Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8.1 is to be installed
[10:00] <Riddell> oh I'm being silly
[10:06] <Peace-> i will do a bug report then 
[10:38] <Peace-> Riddell: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/snapshot21.jpg this is what you get without winbind
[10:38] <Peace-> Riddell: with winbind => http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/snapshot20.jpg
[10:49] <Peace-> bug report done! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/975028
[11:40] <BarkingFish> Afternoodles all :)  Anyone around who can help with some Precise issues please?
[11:45] <BarkingFish> I ran an upgrade overnight to get onto the Precise beta, and it looks great, but there are some issues with the 3.2.0-22.35 kernel headers, primarily that ndiswrapper is missing.
[11:46] <BarkingFish> I'm having to use my old 3.0.0-18 kernel to get on the net at the moment
[11:48] <BarkingFish> I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper following the upgrade, and despite ndiswrapper-utils and ndiswrapper-common being at the latest versions, system responds: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[11:53]  * BarkingFish decides to come back later, suspecting most of the US contingent are in bed, and the Europe contingent are probably at work :)
[13:21] <snele> JontheEchidna: hi jonathan. I have new problem with muon updater. http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2V/Mk/sOGTbzp/snapshot40.png
[13:21] <snele> snapshot is taken after clean boot
[13:21] <snele> apt-get works
[13:28] <snele> JontheEchidna: the problem is present on oneiric and on precise since latest muon bugfix release
[13:28] <snele> (I think)
[14:35] <Peace-> Riddell: are you there?
[14:35] <Peace-> no :)
[14:55] <ScottK> Peace-: He said in email he'd be out.
[15:11] <ScottK> apachelogger: Where are we on the new greater?
[15:14] <Peace-> ScottK: can you do something about this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/975028 
[15:14] <ScottK> rbelem: ^^^ ?
[15:20] <jessie> Has anyone else been having issues with akonadi_nepomuk_feeder?
[15:20] <jessie> Specifically, memory leaks of massive proportions.
[15:27] <Peace-> i have \ had a massive 3 gig of /var/tmpt
[15:27] <Peace-> i have \ had a massive 3 gig of /var/tmp
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:47] <Daskreech> Hello BluesKaj 
[15:48] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech :)
[15:56] <Daskreech> ^_^
[16:12] <ScottK> KDE SC 4.8.2 is finally built on all archs.
[16:21] <jessie> When will those packages get pushed to 12.04?
[16:24] <BarkingFish> Afternoon guys. Anyone around now who can help sort out a prob with 12.04 beta please?
[16:24] <yottabit> what was the reasoning for dropping firefox?
[16:25] <yottabit> ah there i am!
[16:25] <yottabit> thought i was idling in here
[16:25] <ybit> yeah, i'm still here
[16:25] <BarkingFish> firefox has gone? What the...
[16:27] <BarkingFish> Anyway, I'm having some grief with 12.04's new kernel, 3.2.0.22-35 - I have the kernel headers installed, but ndiswrapper seems to be missing.  Trying to update it tells me I'm already using the newest version, and when I try to modprobe it, I just get told FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[16:27] <BarkingFish> I've had to fall back to running Precise on my old 3.0.0-18 kernel
[16:28] <ScottK> BarkingFish: For non-Kubuntu things like the kernel, you're probably better off asking in #ubuntu+1.
[16:29] <BarkingFish> Ok ScottK - I'll check it with them.
[16:38] <rbelem> ScottK, hum... i will take a look on it
[16:39] <ScottK> rbelem: Thanks.
[16:40] <BarkingFish> well that settles my hash, ScottK - ndiswrapper's been dropped from the kernel with no explanation
[16:40] <BarkingFish> went out in 3.2.0.17
[16:40] <ScottK> There you go.
[16:41] <BarkingFish> i've just been told where to go in order to get an explanation, so it's time to put my polite face on, grit my teeth, and get ready for lunch :P
[16:42] <BarkingFish> never mind, I have my answer. It's been supported as a dkms package now, so it's not necessary to duplicate it in kernel
[16:42] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917654/
[16:47] <ScottK> So then the question is do we have it packaged as one?
[16:47] <ScottK> I guess we do.
[16:48] <ScottK> DKMS works pretty well.  I have a netbook with Broadcom wireless that needs it and it works well.
[16:54] <rbelem> ScottK, i  cant reproduce that bug
[16:55] <rbelem> ScottK, works fine for me with the defaults
[16:56] <rbelem> i will try harder with a new installation
[16:57] <rbelem> Riddell, ScottK, could you help me with the kwin active stuff?
[16:57] <rbelem> i did not manage to get it working
[16:57] <rbelem> i m getting this error http://paste.kde.org/452966/
[16:58] <rbelem> the pkg is uploaded to kubuntu active ppa
[17:01] <ScottK> rbelem: No.  I don't know about that.  Maybe shadeslayer or debfx could help?
[17:13] <rbelem> and here is the patch http://paste.kde.org/452996/
[17:14] <BarkingFish> Right, so I'm up and working on the right kernel now, I have ndiswrapper, which is slightly borked but reported, and all the world is good. At least for now anyway :)
[17:18] <ybit> BarkingFish: firefox isn't gone, it's just no longer supported in kde for kubuntu or something like that
[17:18] <ybit> i was wondering if someone could clarify why
[17:18] <BarkingFish> Well I hope someone can :)  Firefox is the only decent browser out there, considering rekonq fails so badly on a lot of stuff :(
[17:18] <ybit> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MjI and http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/r3ntv/kubuntu_1204_to_drop_kde_support_for_firefox/
[17:19] <ybit> phoronix wasn't loading previously
[17:20] <ybit> so.. ignore question :)
[17:22] <BarkingFish> So is it still available in the repos, ybit, or has it *gone*, gone.
[17:22] <BarkingFish> ?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  just did a 12.04 clean insytall and the FF installer is still in th ekmenu , but I haven't run it yet
[17:24] <BarkingFish> thank god for that
[17:24] <BarkingFish> I'd be prepared to compile it from source just to have a decent browser
[17:24] <ybit> BarkingFish: i'm not sure, right now, i'm on opensuse, and all my VMs are sitting beside me on an external not being used
[17:27] <rbelem> ScottK, Riddell, i'm getting the same error without kwinactive patch
[17:28] <rbelem> i'm only adding -DKWIN_PLASMA_ACTIVE=true as build parameter
[17:28] <ScottK> All that was done is the KDE integration patch for Firefox was dropped.
[17:28] <ScottK> Firefox is still around.
[17:28] <BarkingFish> excellent
[17:29] <BarkingFish> so we'll still be getting updates for it as and when they become available
[17:30]  * rbelem disables all patches
[17:31] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,I prefe chromium , but FF seems ok on 12.04 , since it's LTS I imagine the community will keep FF upgraded and up to date as much as possible.
[17:33] <BarkingFish> chromium never worked properly for me as a browser, BluesKaj - even when you told it to become your default browser, it didn't, and it kept crashing pretty much constantly, especially when trying to use Youtube.  Nightmare :P
[17:35] <BluesKaj> hmm BarkingFish , that's odd ..I haven't seen that , stability is one of it's pluses IME
[17:38] <rbelem> Riddell, ScottK, no patches and same build failure
[17:39] <rbelem> time to ping martin
[17:39] <rbelem> kwinactive is broken upstream
[17:41]  * rbelem runs to fix other kubuntu active bugs
[17:53] <swecarp> anny 1 here that are looking att the pakage of Digikam 
[18:23] <yofel> ScottK: thanks for clearing the uploads up, I'll put a notice about that in the changelog next time
[18:24] <ScottK> yofel: You're welcome.
[18:36] <rbelem> ScottK, can i close a bug?
[18:36] <rbelem> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-meta/+bug/956184
[18:37] <rbelem> the package with the fix is in archive already
[20:30] <ScottK> rbelem: Yes.
[20:34] <Peace-> rbelem: 
[20:34] <Peace-> echo `net usershare info`
[20:34] <Peace-> [Video] path=/home/nowardev2/Video comment= usershare_acl=Everyone:R, guest_ok=y
[20:35] <JontheEchidna> snele: yeah, you'll have to upgrade the kdepim-related packages manually via apt-get
[20:36] <JontheEchidna> there's a problem marking them for upgrade which qapt incorrectly reports as a locking error
[20:37] <JontheEchidna> The marking problem is a separate issue, but the fix is a bit invasive and I wouldn't feel comfortable backporting it to 1.3.x
[21:01] <Peace-> rbelem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sW2Xr7f5Q&feature=youtu.be
[22:15] <BarkingFish> Riddell, sorry to bother you, is this right what a user is telling me in #kubuntu - that Canonical are withdrawing support for KDE after 12.04?
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> BarkingFish: commercial support. they will stop selling technical support contracts for kubuntu after 12.04
[23:52] <rbelem> Riddell, ScottK, i fixed the kwin active build failure :-D