[01:22] <ScottyK> the low fat settings, if you enact them, can they later be "removed" or otherwise restore the system to the default?
[02:33] <ScottyK> the low fat settings, if you enact them, can they later be "removed" or otherwise restore the system to the default?
[03:16] <richard> help
[03:34] <Agent_bob> i kde alive and well in ubuntu ?      i haven't been around for several years now
[03:34] <Agent_bob> i/is/
[03:36] <richard_> ubuntu
[03:37] <sizz> kde is better than ever
[03:37] <sizz> kubuntu largely leaves things to you to setup how you like
[03:38] <richard_> yeah
[03:38] <sizz> kmail and amarok are still not so great
[03:39] <sizz> but most of the other kde apps are excellent
[03:40] <h4ckm3> hey I like amarok..
[03:40] <sizz> other than that, since around 4.6 kde has been quite stable, and the performance has improved a lot recently too
[03:40] <h4ckm3> Kubuntu is awesome
[03:41] <sizz> i prefer clementine for music
[03:41] <sizz> amarok isn't too bad
[04:20] <Agent_bob> i haven't seen anyone asking for help in here.    is this normal now?      time was that the questions rolled constantly in #kubuntu    i used to "try" to help in here.   but being a non-conformest and cli user  there was only so much i could actually help with
[04:22] <Agent_bob> heh.  if anyone wanted to setup a partitionless hd i could walk them through that without a problem    '/
[04:23] <Agent_bob> sizz   i generally use sox for audio files
[04:25] <sizz> i bet you watch video in the terminal with mplayer too ;_)
[04:25] <Agent_bob> vlc-nox
[04:25] <Agent_bob> :)))
[04:26] <Agent_bob> don't get me wrong, mplayer works ok.   it's just too popular
[04:50] <Agent_bob> borring     </yawns>
[05:05] <Daskreech> Agent_bob: Too popular?
[05:19] <Agent_bob> daskreech    heh.  yeah
[05:19] <Agent_bob> long time no speek daskreech
[05:19] <Agent_bob> errr   type ;/
[05:20] <Agent_bob> how are you ?
[05:21]  * Agent_bob long time no C++
[05:27] <Agent_bob> ubottu
[05:28] <Agent_bob> !ubottu
[05:29] <Agent_bob> ubottu ubottu ubottu
[05:29] <Daskreech> Agent_bob: I'm fine :)
[05:29] <Agent_bob> fine as frog hair split four ways
[05:30] <Daskreech> 1.8 times that fine
[05:30] <Agent_bob> :)))
[05:31] <Daskreech> how are you?
[05:32] <Agent_bob> i haven't been around.   this channel kinda died    sorta    and #ubuntu is about the same.    what happened?    did the fanfair ware off.
[05:32] <Agent_bob> i'm ok.   i got married again, been busy
[05:32] <Daskreech> Agent_bob: It's a support channel
[05:32] <Daskreech> things started working
[05:32] <Daskreech> \o/
[05:32] <Agent_bob> oh   hehhe
[05:32] <Daskreech> I want cake!
[05:32] <Agent_bob> i see
[05:32] <Agent_bob> ok  but it's three years old now.
[05:32] <Daskreech> plusplus
[05:33] <Agent_bob> plenty of plus plus       trust me.
[05:33] <Daskreech> Yeah apparently It's a thing for married type people to freeze the cake and have a slice on the first, fifth tenth and fifteenth anniversary
[05:34]  * Agent_bob shutters
[05:34] <Agent_bob> fifteen year old cake     ;/    ;S     </gag>
[05:35] <Agent_bob> no thanks
[05:36] <Daskreech> Most people don't get to the ten
[05:36] <Daskreech> Depending on how good the cake is that can be the tenth day >_>
[05:37] <Agent_bob> heh  yeah i know.   sad isn't it.    for ever sure isn't long any more
[05:38] <Agent_bob> first round was 7 years for me.     then went 15 single    finally desided i'd try it one more time.....
[05:38] <Daskreech> hoorah Commitment
[05:39] <Agent_bob> yeah "for ever" or until one of us says "uncle"    hehe
[05:39] <Daskreech> as a side note before this conversation ends I have a friend who went on two dates before being engaged
[05:41] <Daskreech> Agent_bob: So what morbid pleasure brings you back to the Khannel of the Dead?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> daskreech  heh    just being morbid at work.    "which explains the long responce times"
[05:55] <Daskreech> :-) Am I disturbing?
[05:55] <Agent_bob> not at all....          i changed professions also,   mechanical technition </anticipating>
[05:56] <Agent_bob> beets working for the wrong side...    and when there is no right side...    well you know.l
[05:57] <Agent_bob> -l
[06:08] <Daskreech> Technician ?
[06:21] <Agent_bob> daskreech   yes
[06:23] <Daskreech> What kind of Mechanics?
[06:24] <Agent_bob> 30ton  to  104 ton   equipment
[06:25] <Agent_bob> deisel electric + hyrdolic
[06:25] <Daskreech> neat :)
[06:28] <Agent_bob> far cry from information gathering,  but pays about as good,  if you consider that the only thing likely to try to kill you is something falling off of a lift  ;/
[06:29] <abe> hi all. I am wondering if the function Dolphin->right click a file->Send via Bluetooth is working or not
[06:29] <phani> Hi can someone help with an encrypted hard drive.. I am using lucid 10.04 version .. I have connected external encrypted lucid hard drive on another lucid laptop but I am unable to mount it .. when I try to mount it I get error as :  mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt  mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[06:29] <Agent_bob> at any rate,  i'm about to finish up here.   so maybe i'll C++ you again some time soon.
[06:29] <Agent_bob> @ Daskreech    ^
[06:30] <phani> if I try to mount it via GUI it says :  Not a mountable file system
[06:34] <Daskreech> Agent_bob: Alright See you agian
[06:34] <Daskreech> I hope
[06:34] <Ipslore> phani > maybe you could check ecryptfs-utils package is installed on your system
[06:35] <Daskreech> abe: should be if you have bluedevil
[06:35] <Daskreech> phani: did you mount it as acrypted partition?
[06:35] <Daskreech> with the password?
[06:35] <phani> ipslore: yes its installed dpkg -l | grep ecryptfs-utils
[06:35] <phani> ii  ecryptfs-utils                                    83-0ubuntu3.2.10.04.3                           ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities
[06:36] <Daskreech> !Info bluedevil
[06:36] <phani> Daskreech: not sure ow to mount as acryppted partition ? any hints
[06:37] <abe> Daskreech: thx. mind if I ask for a favor to test it for me pls :)  The reason I asked is that I remember seeing that option in KDE on my other kubuntu latop but without bluetooth. and my current machine with bluetooth isn't runnign kubuntu, and that function isn't working
[06:38] <phani> when I connect the encrypted hard drive it asks for a password and I give it and its says its a not a mountable file system... if I do mount manually it saus unknown file system type crypto_LUKS error
[06:39] <Daskreech> abe: I don't have bluetooth on this computer
[06:39] <abe> ah... that's ok :-)
[06:39] <Daskreech> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
[06:40] <Daskreech> phani: ^^^
[06:40] <phani> Daskreech/Ipslore :  when I go to /dev/mapper  I can see my encrypted hard drive like tis :  udisks-luks-uuid-f4d08c59-6405-478c-b847-897519307d58-uid94056
[06:40] <phani> looking into the link
[06:41] <Ipslore> phani > well when I use a crypted volume, I always mount smthing from /dev/mapper
[06:43] <Ipslore> Does anyone know if the 4.8.2 packages will be available for kubuntu 11.10 ?
[06:44] <abe> can any kind kubuntu-er with bluetooth pls test for me if in Dolphin, right click a file->send via Bluetooth is working or not?
[06:44] <phani> ipslore/Daskreech :   when I scan for volumegroup it shows as: sudo vgscan --mknodes
[06:44] <phani>   Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
[06:44] <phani>   Found duplicate PV 6PKs2wU8dj19oHO05ID0AcBI7lxMu5Sr: using /dev/mapper/crypt1 not /dev/mapper/udisks-luks-uuid-f4d08c59-6405-478c-b847-897519307d58-uid94056
[06:44] <phani>   Found volume group "sysvg" using metadata type lvm2
[06:44] <phani>   Found volume group "sysvg" using metadata type lvm2
[06:44] <FloodBotK1> phani: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <phani> Daskreech: when I try to follow the doc you have given it gives an error like tis: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:48] <phani> also this if I mount via GUI : unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[07:09] <Daskreech> phani: you can ignore the lvm section if you don't have LVM
[07:09] <Daskreech> Ipslore: They will be available
[07:09] <phani> but I am unable to mount it in anyway.... either in GUI or via CLI
[07:10] <Ipslore> Daskreech: thx
[07:10] <Daskreech> phani: what happened once it asked for your password?
[07:12] <phani> Here is what and how I am doing... Connecting the hard drive and it shows under computer -> Click on it -> Asks for password ->Enter ->Error is : Not a mountable file system
[07:13] <Daskreech> phani: you said you mounted it manually how were you doing that?
[07:15] <phani> via CLI :  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc5 crypt1 -> keyslot unlocked
[07:15] <phani> check /dev/mapper and I see crypt1 there
[07:15] <Daskreech> phani: Right then ?
[07:17] <phani> mount /dev/mapper/crypt1   /mnt/backup   error :  unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'  or crytpo_LUKS error
[07:18] <Daskreech> phani: do you have that partition on LVM ?
[07:18] <phani> how to find that ?
[07:18] <phani> using Gparted can I ?
[07:19] <Daskreech> try pvscan
[07:19] <phani> if I use gparted and select drive    /dev/sdc5   says file system :  crypt-luks
[07:19] <phani> trying pcvscan
[07:21] <Daskreech> sudo pvscan
[07:21] <phani> ok
[07:26] <Daskreech> nothing ?
[07:27] <phani> right now its not showing anything when i try to run the command cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc5 crypt1   says crypt1 already exists
[07:27] <phani> but I can't find it /dev/napper
[07:27] <phani> *mapper
[07:27] <phani> not sure what happened suddenly..
[07:28] <phani> even pvscan or lvdisplay shows only original harddrive but nt the external one connected
[07:28] <phani> i can see that by running sudo fdisk -l
[07:29] <phani> i think i need to reboot my machine and connect back bt how can i contact you again ?  :(
[07:29] <Daskreech> phani: log back in here?
[07:30] <phani> yes
[07:30] <phani> ok let me reboot and connect back in 2 min
[07:30] <phani> sorry
[07:30] <Daskreech> sure
[07:34] <phoenix_firebrd> kmix crashes for every song change
[07:35] <phani2> Daskreech: I'm back...
[07:35] <Daskreech> phani2: twice as good as before
[07:35] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: :-o
[07:35] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: :)
[07:38] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: I presume you are all up2date ?
[07:39] <phani2> Daskreech :  Here is via CLI :  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 encrypted -> Enter passphrase for /dev/sdb5 -> Key slot 1 unlocked.
[07:39] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: using kde 4.8.1 on kubuntu 12.04 beta 2, but i had the problem also in kubuntu 11.10 kde 4.8.1
[07:40] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: what soundcard?
[07:40] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: creative sound blaster live 24 bit
[07:40] <Daskreech> phani2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/mapper/encrypted
[07:40] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: oh >_>
[07:42] <phani2> Daskreech: Please see this :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/917107/
[07:42] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: any solution?
[07:44] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: I'm not sure. The Creative Labs guys are being a bit difficult so not sure what the approach should be
[07:44] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: is it a driver issue?
[07:45] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: That would be my first guess but I don't know enough to go either way
[07:45] <Daskreech> I suppose getting the traceback for the crash is the best way to go
[07:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i have the crash report, can you take a look?
[07:47] <phani2> Daskreech :   pv display shows  as :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/917111/
[07:47] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: pastebin it
[07:48] <Daskreech> phani2: sudo vgscan
[07:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/452594/
[07:49] <phani2> Daskreech:  here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/917113/
[07:50] <Daskreech> phani2: sudo lvscan
[07:51] <phani2> Daskreech:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/917116/
[07:51] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: looks good. Can you put that in a bug report?
[07:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: sure
[07:52] <Daskreech> phani2: do you have a /dev/sysvg/root file ?
[07:52] <phani2> in /dev/mapper  :  yes but if I mount that to /mnt  it shows the local hard drive info and not the external hard drive...
[07:53] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: Ok looks to be some listen event in Qwatcher crashing from Pulseaudio
[07:53] <georgelappies> hi all, just updated to latest updates in precise and now I cannot log in
[07:53] <Daskreech> georgelappies: join #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: line number please
[07:54] <Daskreech> phani2: you don't have a /dev/sysvg directory ?
[07:54] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: hmm? no use the entire thing when you are posting the bug
[07:54] <phani2> I do have and in that I can root and swap which in turn is a symlink points to /dev/mapper
[07:55] <Daskreech> phani2: which if you mount to /mnt/backup is not the encrypted drive ?
[07:56] <Daskreech> it seems that should be the external drive from the sequence you posted
[07:56] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: There are some missing debugging symbols, i will install it and do a new backtrace  and i will get back to you
[07:57] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: Thanks it was a little sparse :)
[07:57] <phani2> Daskreech :  Nope . It shows the laptop's hard drive data and not the encrypted hard drive info which I want
[07:57] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: :)
[07:59] <Daskreech> phani2: How big is the laptop hard drive?
[08:00] <phani2> I have 2 harddrives of 160GB each... encrypted 160 and laptop's 160GB
[08:00] <Daskreech> That's not helpful :)
[08:01] <phani2> you mean the size of the hard drive ?
[08:01] <phani2> I am using IBM T400 laptop
[08:01] <Daskreech> Yeah umm let me wee
[08:01] <Daskreech> see
[08:04] <Daskreech> phani2: pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[08:05] <phani2> Daskreech :  here it is :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/917130/
[08:08] <Daskreech> Are they clones of each other?
[08:08] <phani2> Daskreech : nope
[08:10] <Daskreech> phani2: hmm ok
[08:13] <phani2> any other hints ?
[08:14] <phani2> Daskreech :   If I do like this :  mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/backup/   : mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[08:19] <Daskreech> Crypto_LUKS means it need to be opened with luksOpen You did that laready
[08:22] <phani2> Daskreech: ok
[08:29] <phani2> Daskreech :  so any more suggestions that's left for us to troubleshoot ;)
[08:33] <Daskreech> try removing the crpty paition and seei f /dev/sysau\nmus gyestikd
[08:50] <abe> confirmed with another kubuntu (kde 4.8.1) user of not working Dolphin -> right click a file -> Send via Bluetooth. Anyone got it to work on their system?
[08:51] <lordievader> abe, I don't use bluetooth myself, byt perhaps the terminal can tell you of some errors, just launch dolphin through a terminal and do it again.
[08:53] <abe> lordievader: unfortunately nothing :(  Actually I'm currently on a gentoo system and is not working also. I am just wondering if it's the same for kubuntu also (but my kubuntu old laptop doesn't have bt)
[08:56] <lordievader> abe, I'm sorry I can't be of further help, as I said I don't use bluetooth, perhaps some one else here knows something else you can try the forums: ubuntuforums.org
[08:56] <abe> thanks lordievader:-)
[08:57] <abe> I'll hang around to see if any kind kubuntu-er with bluetooth can try for me (right click file in dolphin -> Send via bluetooth)
[09:06] <Ipslore> abe: I'm trying to send an mp4 file to my android phone via bt
[09:06] <Ipslore> (kubuntu 11.10)
[09:06] <Ipslore> it seems to work, but transfert is very slow
[09:08] <abe> ah cool!
[09:08] <abe> mine just got stuck at "transfering" always 0%
[09:09] <abe> Ipslore: did it finish eventually?
[09:09] <Ipslore> well not realy better here
[09:10] <Ipslore> stuck after 83.6 kio transfered
[09:10] <Ipslore> I have to cancel the transfert
[09:11] <abe> well... at least it's better than 0% :)
[09:11] <Ipslore> yup, but still unsable ;)
[09:12] <abe> Ipslore: I was trying to use "bluedevil-sendfile -u <device_address> -f <path_to_file>" also, but it segfault straight away
[09:13] <abe> I wonder if that works for you :)
[09:13] <abe> because at least you got some progress
[09:14] <Ipslore> abe: same as you : segfault
[09:16] <abe> hmm... thought you would have gone further!
[09:17] <abe> Ipslore: thanks for the info :)
[09:20] <Ipslore> you're welcome. GL for that issue.
[10:04] <sebastian_> hi. looks like I have a clash between the nouveau driver and nvidia official driver here on a default installation
[10:05] <lordievader> sebastian_, that could be, what kind of error or behaviour do you see?
[10:05] <sebastian_> nouveau and nvidia-common are installes and glxinfo says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[10:06] <sebastian_> I've asked in freenode #nouveau and they say it may be a clash
[10:07] <sebastian_> nvidia-common and nvidia-current are installed
[10:07] <lordievader> could very well be, do you like experimenting with video drivers? you could try to remove one and see if it fixes the clash, but you might endup with a box not willing to boot X
[10:08] <sebastian_> that's a fresh installation without any needed data
[10:09] <lordievader> that is not what I am saying, what I mean is remove either nouveau or the nvidia driver, reboot and see if it fixes anything. but as I said you might end up without a gui
[10:10] <sebastian_> if I end up without X, can you give me some hints to revover?
[10:10] <lordievader> that's the tricky part, do you have a secondary pc? from there you can lookup the command to reinstall a driver
[10:11] <sebastian_> I have, yes
[10:11] <lordievader> a good first question do you need the GLX extension?
[10:12] <sebastian_> I've a resonable 2d acceleration here
[10:13] <lordievader> because if you do not really need it, why bother going through the trouble of fixing it?
[10:13] <sebastian_> but: "<mupuf> shouldn't hurt"
[10:13] <sebastian_> maybe I'm not the only one with that problem
[10:16] <TheHammer> k this is the secondary pc
[10:16] <sebastian_> I'll try to install nvidia
[10:16] <sebastian_> I'll try to uninstall nvidia
[10:16] <lordievader> I'd say remove the nouveau
[10:17] <lordievader> and then run, how was it called?, nvidia-config?
[10:17] <sebastian_> hm
[10:17] <lordievader> Something along those lines, let me look it up.
[10:17] <sebastian_> nvidia-xconfig
[10:18] <lordievader> Yea that is probably it, but TheHammer and sebastian_ are the same right?
[10:18] <sebastian_> yep
[10:18] <lordievader> ok
[10:20] <sebastian_> what is that dpkg command called? dpkg --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ?
[10:20] <lordievader> You can just use apt-get, sudo apt-get remove nouveau*
[10:21] <sebastian_> k let's try
[10:24] <sebastian_> fyi this just removed the metapackage xserver-xorg-video-all
[10:25] <lordievader> Huh, it is supposed to remove more... else open muon and look for nouveau and remove all the packages with nouveau in the title
[10:26] <sebastian_> ok, if I want to uninstall nouveau*, it wants to remove everything
[10:27] <lordievader> everytjomg related to nouveau?
[10:27] <lordievader> everythin*
[10:27] <sebastian_> including kde, alsa, kernel 3.2, X
[10:27] <lordievader>  yea that is probably not good...
[10:28] <sebastian_> network-manager, ubuntu-minimal
[10:28] <lordievader> remove the nouveau packages through muon else
[10:31] <sebastian_> let's say I can't uninstall libdrm-nouveau1a
[10:31] <sebastian_> without breaking some dependencies
[10:31] <lordievader> nah leave it, probably wont do that much bad things
[10:31] <sebastian_> that's just the Userspace interface
[10:32] <sebastian_> k I'll restart, because you folks removed the ctrl+alt+backspace command :)
[10:33] <lordievader> it annoys me too...
[10:33] <TheHammer> I'm stll here ...
[10:34] <TheHammer> X is up
[10:34] <lordievader> That nice
[10:36] <TheHammer> but glx is still missing, should I try to execute nvidia-xconfig or reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <lordievader> nvidia-xconfig does exactly that
[10:38] <arshinator> can anyone tell me how to make grub automatically load the kernel while booting
[10:38] <TheHammer> lordievader, ty
[10:39] <lordievader> arshinator, he doesnt? did you edit grub?
[10:39] <lordievader> TheHammer, no problem, GLX is now loading?
[10:39] <TheHammer> lordievader, none moment
[10:39] <TheHammer> lordievader, one moment
[10:40] <arshinator> lordievader: no i lost grub after installing windows...restored it through the live cd...but nw i have to manually load the linux kernel whenever i start the system
[10:40] <lordievader> let grub reconfigure
[10:41] <lordievader> arshinator, sudo update-grub
[10:41] <arshinator> everytime i start the system i get the grub prompt and from there i have to load the kernel..i want it to give me options between windows and kubuntu when i start
[10:41] <TheHammer> lordievader, glx is still missing, the display resolutio is not 640x480 or so
[10:41] <TheHammer> lordievader, glx is still missing, the display resolutio is now 640x480 or so
[10:41] <arshinator> lordievader, i did that but no use
[10:42] <lordievader> TheHammer, hmm that aint good, can you configure it using nvidia-settings?
[10:44] <lordievader> arshinator, phew grub2 is quite different, anyhow what does the file /etc/default/grub say?
[10:44] <TheHammer> lordievader, nvidia-settings says nvidia driver isn't loaded, but the xorg.conf says it is. I think this is the cause of the bad resolution.
[10:45] <arshinator> lordievader, u want me to paste the contents of the file?
[10:45] <lordievader> that is probable, try reinstalling the driver, i.e. download it from nvidia using wget and running the installer
[10:45] <lordievader> !paste
[10:46] <arshinator> lordievader,http://paste.kde.org/452732/
[10:47] <lordievader> Hmm well it is different from mine, on one thing, in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT I got the same thing except without the 5
[10:49] <lordievader> arshinator, in grub you do have entries for your install?
[10:49] <arshinator> lordievader, i guess this file is fine....but i still can't get grub to automatically load the kernel
[10:50] <TheHammer> lordievader, nvidia driver don't like a running x server. an idea how to disable it except sudo echo  "foo" >> xorg.conf
[10:51] <lordievader> TheHammer, hit ctrl + alt+ f1
[10:51] <arshinator> lordievader, no all i get at the startup is the grub prompt..and then from there i have to set root....load insid and kernel image and then manually boot it
[10:51] <lordievader> assuming you run kde, type sudo service kdm stop
[10:51] <lordievader> arshinator, well there you have the reason for it not booting
[10:52] <arshinator> lordievader, i dont get it?
[10:52] <lordievader> if grub doesn't have any entries how is he supposed to know what to boot?
[10:53] <arshinator> lordievader, could u pls tell me how can i fix it?
[10:54] <lordievader> here someone says that the command sudo update-grub did fix it, what output do you get from it?
[10:54] <arshinator> it did not
[10:54] <lordievader> arshinator, but what output does it give?
[10:56] <arshinator> it does not give any error....it upadtes it http://paste.kde.org/452750/
[10:57] <TheHammer> lordievader, that's an evil trap: if you make a mistake in your xorg.conf, X doesn't start and you don't get a console either
[10:57] <lordievader> TheHammer, the whole nvidia-xconfig thing?
[10:57] <TheHammer> yep
[10:57] <lordievader> I believe my nvidia card did work with it tough :P
[10:58] <TheHammer>  ctrl + alt+ f1 didn't work, becase it recognized the running x
[10:58] <TheHammer> so I prepended foo to the xorg.conf
[10:58] <TheHammer> and restarted
[10:59] <lordievader> yeah then you'll get a promt
[10:59] <lordievader> prompt*
[10:59] <TheHammer> nope
[10:59] <TheHammer> no promt, just a black screen
[10:59] <lordievader> TheHammer, wait so now you are stuck with a black screen?
[10:59] <TheHammer> yep
[11:00] <TheHammer> sshd is not installed
[11:00] <lordievader> arshinator, this command didn't work? it does show it found an linux kernel
[11:00] <lordievader> and the ctrl+alt+fXX didn't work?
[11:00] <TheHammer> lordievader, nope
[11:01] <arshinator> lordievader, no this did not do anything...i also did a grub reinstall and the grub-update...even that didn't work
[11:01] <lordievader> TheHammer, reboot and use the recovery mode, from there you can drop to a root shell, make sure to mount the drives first
[11:03] <lordievader> arshinator, you are on the actual install right, not the live cd?
[11:03] <TheHammer> ok esc got me to a shell
[11:03] <arshinator> yes
[11:03] <lordievader> run this : sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX; sudo update-grub  (replacing the X with your harddrive with ubuntu on it)
[11:05] <TheHammer> lordievader, I've removed the xorg.conf and will now install nouveau and remove nvidia
[11:05] <lordievader> yeah if that works, go for it!
[11:10] <TheHammer> yep opengl is working
[11:10] <lordievader> Oh ok, nice :)
[11:18] <sebastian__> lordievader: to summary: there is a clash in the _default_ installation and uninstalling the nvidia driver worked
[11:19] <lordievader> sebastian__, yes that would be a good summary, another would be that video drivers are a pain in the ass
[11:20] <TheHammer> they are - indeed
[12:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: are you there?
[12:32] <georgelappies> hi all, anybody else unable to login to KDE after the lastest updates from a few hours ago?
[12:33] <lordievader> georgelappies, I am updating right now, so we'll see
[12:33] <lordievader> O hey it is done, lets reboot and see.
[12:34] <georgelappies> me holds thumbs for lordievader!
[12:42] <lordievader> I can still login like normal.
[12:42] <lordievader> And I am running 4.8.2
[13:42] <merlin1991> so I want to move partitions around a lil, I've got 2 partitions on sda (1 and 5) and would like to move sda5 to sdb which is a completely new ssd
[13:43] <merlin1991> now I need a proper way to move the partition there and update grub on the way to look for its modules in the new place
[13:59] <kyo> helo
[13:59] <kyo> hello
[14:01] <kyo> there anybody here?
[14:01] <kyo> there anybody here?
[14:01] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: hi
[14:02] <kyo> hi phoenix
[14:03] <kyo> no activity?
[14:03] <kyo> here?
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: ya
[14:03] <kyo> do you speak english? spanish?
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo:  english
[14:04] <kyo> ok
[14:04] <kyo> how are you?
[14:05] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: i am fine, thank you
[14:05] <kyo> good
[14:06] <kyo> do not speak much truth?
[14:07] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: i speak a lot
[14:08] <kyo> but.....?
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: what?
[14:09] <kyo> because do you not write more?
[14:09] <phoenix_firebrd> kyo: we are not suppose to talk any other thing except the OS related issues
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> in this channel
[14:10] <kyo> thrue
[14:10] <merlin1991> so how do I tell grub to use another partition for its modules and everything?
[14:12] <kyo> i don't know
[14:56] <naftilos76> Did you hear what's comming? Aliens are comming but only for one reason to fix the god dam kmail2 and get the hell out....
[14:57] <naftilos76> they are on CNN! tune in....
[15:00] <naftilos76> yes yes it's fixed! it's fixed...
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:37] <Daskreech> Hi BluesKaj
[15:43] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech , finally got kmail working with gmail -imap , now I just have to figure out what my ISP email server uses ..probly imap as well , since it's been contracted to a webmail server
[15:45] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: so you become a ISP's support nightnamre
[15:47] <Daskreech> What do you mean you aren't using Outlook?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, well, it was mainly a challenge for me to get kmail/akonadi working ...I suspect i won't need to use kmail much
[15:50] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: you don't get a lot of mail?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> oh I do Daskreech , but it's all on webmail ...no more pop servers
[15:54] <Waani> ahh I started using Kmail for the same reasons and now i dont use webmail much...
[15:54] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: ^^^ this
[15:55] <Daskreech> Gmail does have some things like archiving that are more useful through the web interface but kmail does pretty well
[15:57] <BluesKaj> frankly the kmail email interface isn't my style , if prefer a simpler look
[15:57] <carlos> hi
[15:58] <Guest80789> mm
[15:58] <Guest80789> poke
[15:59] <Daskreech> hi
[16:00] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: like just a listing of the headers and body?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yes
[16:02] <Waani> true tht kmail isnt user attractive the first times... i have to admit that the fist time i used it i endedup removing it. But once passed the first step its quite userfriendly
[16:02] <Waani> hi
[16:03] <Waani> but gmail too :p the main difference is not to open your browser to check mails
[16:03] <Waani> i think
[16:06] <BluesKaj> my browser is always open
[16:08] <ybit> aha
[16:08] <ybit> http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-kde-live-cd-dvd-using-kubuntu
[16:08] <BluesKaj> needed to do a totally clean install to rid my system of corrupted config files , mostly with akonadi and nepomuk...all seems quite stable atm on 12.04/kde 4.8.2
[16:08] <ybit> i didn't realize this was possible
[16:09] <ybit> guess that's another custom kde distro to work on
[16:10] <Daskreech> My main thing is that Gmail uses up like 200 MB of memory and opens slower than kmail
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yeah google loads a lot of stuff these days .
[16:15] <Waani> oh and is there some function to crypt messages on google ? KMail with kleopatra does is pretty instantaneously <-- sorry if i got the wrong word
[16:15] <Waani> encrypt*
[16:16] <Waani> encrypt or crypt? or my english got so bad that am making up words?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Waani, it's ok we get the message/meaning :)
[16:18] <Waani> oks :)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> I use encyption for my passwords textfile ..not a fan of kwalletmanager
[16:21] <Daskreech> Waani: Either works
[16:21] <Daskreech> Waani: But encrypt is more straightforward
[16:27] <Waani> Darkreech : oks thanks :)
[16:27] <Waani> BluesKaj : you put all your passwords in encrypted textfiles ? You get everything to work well with it? I always thought Kwalman was the only thing working well with kde apps.... interresting
[18:36] <savio> hey when i click on sleep my system gets screen lock
[18:36] <savio> my sleep option is not working
[18:36] <savio> my kernel is 3.2.6
[18:39] <Guest5653> knfgkdfg
[18:39] <Guest5653> have my font
[18:39] <ArchangelSe7en> savio, sudo pm-suspend
[18:39] <ArchangelSe7en> try that in your terminal
[18:39] <Guest5653> alguien en espa?ol
[18:40] <savio> it's says command not found ArchangelSe7en
[18:41] <ArchangelSe7en> savio, type "pm-" and hit <tab> twice
[18:41] <savio> no use
[18:42] <ArchangelSe7en> no .. but what does it say
[18:42] <Guest5653> alguien a tenido problema instalando font en fluxbox
[18:42] <savio> ArchangelSe7en: command not found
[18:42] <ArchangelSe7en> err ..
[18:42] <ArchangelSe7en> dont hit enter
[18:43] <ArchangelSe7en> just hit tab twice
[18:43] <savio> when i issue tab noting happens
[18:43] <ArchangelSe7en> hm ..
[18:43] <ArchangelSe7en> which distro ?
[18:43] <savio> ubuntu 10.04
[18:43] <savio> with kernel 3.2.6
[18:44] <ArchangelSe7en> bizarre
[18:44] <savio> what?
[18:48] <savio> any help?
[18:57] <Daskreech> !es
[18:58] <Daskreech> Guest5653: Por favor vea el anterior
[18:58] <Daskreech> !info pm-suspend
[18:58] <Daskreech> !find pm-suspend
[18:58] <Daskreech> !info pm-utils
[18:59] <Daskreech> savio: do you have pm-utils installed?
[19:31] <AlfE_> hello
[19:31] <AlfE_> remmina is quite unstable under kubuntu 12.04 beta 2
[19:45] <badgoat> hi every body
[19:45] <badgoat> there are a new web site if you need a nice dual boot ! http://www.linux2deal.byethost4.com
[19:49] <szal> !12.04 | AlfE_
[20:53] <aguitel> how upgrade kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[20:56] <avihay> !12.04| aguitel
[20:56] <avihay> it's released in the end of the month, I think
[20:57] <avihay> will be*
[20:58] <BarkingFish> evening all. I have a prog installed here which is trying to output sound via /dev/dsp - that's wrong as far as I can tell, but what is the kde / kubuntu equivalent of the device where sound goes?
[20:58] <BarkingFish> /dev/dsp as far as I can remember was for OSS
[21:04] <avihay> BarkingFish: AFAIK, kubuntu uses pulse-audio which manapolizes the sound card. you might want to try looking at !alsa-oss
[21:05] <BarkingFish> i don't use pulseaudio, avihay - it breaks my system.
[21:05] <BarkingFish> i'll look for alsa-oss instead
[21:05] <avihay> or padsp
[21:05] <BarkingFish> !info alsaoss precise
[21:05] <avihay> for pulse
[21:05] <avihay> with the dash
[21:06] <BarkingFish> !info alsa-oss precise
[21:06] <BarkingFish> excellent
[21:06] <BarkingFish> that should do it
[22:09] <Caitlin889955> hello!
[22:09] <BarkingFish> Hi Caitlin889955 :)
[22:10] <BarkingFish> Anything we can do to help you?
[22:10] <Caitlin889955> Not at this moment. thank you!
[22:10] <Caitlin889955> trying to read doc first :)
[22:11] <Caitlin889955> But my prob is wine cant run curse client for wow
[22:11] <Caitlin889955> .net 3.5 and ie6 for 64bit in presice 12.04
[22:11] <BarkingFish> Caitlin889955, right - I can stop you there - you're in the wrong channel :)
[22:12] <Caitlin889955> kind of a pain if you ask me. I do however really enjoy the new wine 1.5.1 Correct i am!
[22:12] <BarkingFish> Anything which you may need help with for Precise 12.04 (until its official release) is in #ubuntu+1
[22:12] <Caitlin889955> :)Ty Barkingfish
[22:13] <BarkingFish> if you poke your head in there, someone will gladly assist you - remember Precise is still in beta, so things may not work the way you expect! I'm finding that out myself, having upgraded to 12.04 this morning :D
[22:13] <Caitlin889955> Have you tried presice yet? It is fantadtic! It's a shame they are scraping it after lts
[22:13] <Caitlin889955> Oh cool!
[22:13] <BarkingFish> What do you mean they're "scrapping" it?
[22:14] <Caitlin889955> After 12.04 concial is no longer goign to support kde (j riddle) says he will still try to help after its release and ending support term
[22:15] <Caitlin889955> People are saying kubuntu is Dead yeah right...
[22:15] <Caitlin889955> But yeah after the LTS its done and gone.
[22:16] <Caitlin889955> Thank you for the info BarkingFish
[22:16] <BarkingFish> you're welcome
[22:19] <JMichaelX> you are thinking that after 12.04, kubuntu is dead and gone?
[22:19] <BarkingFish> This is what I understood, JMichaelX - That's why I just checked with Jon in the devel channel...
[22:20] <BarkingFish> I wish people would get their facts straight before feeding them into a public channel :/
[22:20] <JMichaelX> BarkingFish: and that is how he responded?
[22:20] <BarkingFish> The only thing Canonical are stopping is Commercial support
[22:21] <JMichaelX> BarkingFish: yea, that is what my understanding had been
[22:21] <BarkingFish> They're not selling anymore tech support contracts after 12.04
[22:21] <JMichaelX> yea... i don't think that non-commercial users are going to notice any huge difference
[22:21] <BarkingFish> JMichaelX, well having only come to 12.04 about 23 hours ago, i'm kinda catching up on stuff
[22:22] <JMichaelX> BarkingFish: i have not installed 12.04 on anything yet
[22:22] <BarkingFish> Ah, I added one of precise's pools onto apper, and ran an apt-get dist-upgrade about midnight 30 this morning :)
[22:23] <BarkingFish> nice, couple of things went wrong but they're now fixed, so all's good at the moment
[22:24] <JMichaelX> the last several rounds, i have waited until 2 or 3 days before final release to upgrade a few machines, then waited until a few weeks later to upgrade the others
[22:25] <BarkingFish> well we're only ±3 weeks away from 0-hour, so I thought I'd give it a shot, wait until some of the bugs in earlier beta had been ironed out, and try it
[22:25] <BarkingFish> Glad I did so far, it's pretty dang good
[22:56] <christ_> hola.
[22:58] <Daskreech> hola
[23:09] <Daskreech> hi christ_