[01:22] the low fat settings, if you enact them, can they later be "removed" or otherwise restore the system to the default? === mike_ is now known as Guest8511 === Guest8511 is now known as MikeMLP === xezexal is now known as SolarAquarion [02:33] the low fat settings, if you enact them, can they later be "removed" or otherwise restore the system to the default? [03:16] help === richard is now known as Guest74406 [03:34] i kde alive and well in ubuntu ? i haven't been around for several years now [03:34] i/is/ [03:36] ubuntu [03:37] kde is better than ever [03:37] kubuntu largely leaves things to you to setup how you like [03:38] yeah [03:38] kmail and amarok are still not so great [03:39] but most of the other kde apps are excellent [03:40] hey I like amarok.. [03:40] other than that, since around 4.6 kde has been quite stable, and the performance has improved a lot recently too [03:40] Kubuntu is awesome [03:41] i prefer clementine for music [03:41] amarok isn't too bad [04:20] i haven't seen anyone asking for help in here. is this normal now? time was that the questions rolled constantly in #kubuntu i used to "try" to help in here. but being a non-conformest and cli user there was only so much i could actually help with [04:22] heh. if anyone wanted to setup a partitionless hd i could walk them through that without a problem '/ [04:23] sizz i generally use sox for audio files [04:25] i bet you watch video in the terminal with mplayer too ;_) [04:25] vlc-nox [04:25] :))) [04:26] don't get me wrong, mplayer works ok. it's just too popular [04:50] borring [05:05] Agent_bob: Too popular? [05:19] daskreech heh. yeah [05:19] long time no speek daskreech [05:19] errr type ;/ [05:20] how are you ? [05:21] * Agent_bob long time no C++ [05:27] ubottu [05:28] !ubottu [05:28] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [05:29] ubottu ubottu ubottu [05:29] Agent_bob: I'm fine :) [05:29] fine as frog hair split four ways [05:30] 1.8 times that fine [05:30] :))) [05:31] how are you? [05:32] i haven't been around. this channel kinda died sorta and #ubuntu is about the same. what happened? did the fanfair ware off. [05:32] i'm ok. i got married again, been busy [05:32] Agent_bob: It's a support channel [05:32] things started working [05:32] \o/ [05:32] oh hehhe [05:32] I want cake! [05:32] i see [05:32] ok but it's three years old now. [05:32] plusplus [05:33] plenty of plus plus trust me. [05:33] Yeah apparently It's a thing for married type people to freeze the cake and have a slice on the first, fifth tenth and fifteenth anniversary [05:34] * Agent_bob shutters [05:34] fifteen year old cake ;/ ;S [05:35] no thanks [05:36] Most people don't get to the ten [05:36] Depending on how good the cake is that can be the tenth day >_> [05:37] heh yeah i know. sad isn't it. for ever sure isn't long any more [05:38] first round was 7 years for me. then went 15 single finally desided i'd try it one more time..... [05:38] hoorah Commitment [05:39] yeah "for ever" or until one of us says "uncle" hehe [05:39] as a side note before this conversation ends I have a friend who went on two dates before being engaged [05:41] Agent_bob: So what morbid pleasure brings you back to the Khannel of the Dead? [05:52] daskreech heh just being morbid at work. "which explains the long responce times" [05:55] :-) Am I disturbing? [05:55] not at all.... i changed professions also, mechanical technition [05:56] beets working for the wrong side... and when there is no right side... well you know.l [05:57] -l === etienne is now known as Ipslore [06:08] Technician ? [06:21] daskreech yes [06:23] What kind of Mechanics? [06:24] 30ton to 104 ton equipment [06:25] deisel electric + hyrdolic [06:25] neat :) [06:28] far cry from information gathering, but pays about as good, if you consider that the only thing likely to try to kill you is something falling off of a lift ;/ [06:29] hi all. I am wondering if the function Dolphin->right click a file->Send via Bluetooth is working or not [06:29] Hi can someone help with an encrypted hard drive.. I am using lucid 10.04 version .. I have connected external encrypted lucid hard drive on another lucid laptop but I am unable to mount it .. when I try to mount it I get error as : mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS' [06:29] at any rate, i'm about to finish up here. so maybe i'll C++ you again some time soon. [06:29] @ Daskreech ^ [06:30] if I try to mount it via GUI it says : Not a mountable file system [06:34] Agent_bob: Alright See you agian [06:34] I hope [06:34] phani > maybe you could check ecryptfs-utils package is installed on your system [06:35] abe: should be if you have bluedevil [06:35] phani: did you mount it as acrypted partition? [06:35] with the password? [06:35] ipslore: yes its installed dpkg -l | grep ecryptfs-utils [06:35] ii ecryptfs-utils 83-0ubuntu3.2.10.04.3 ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities [06:36] !Info bluedevil [06:36] Daskreech: not sure ow to mount as acryppted partition ? any hints [06:37] Daskreech: thx. mind if I ask for a favor to test it for me pls :) The reason I asked is that I remember seeing that option in KDE on my other kubuntu latop but without bluetooth. and my current machine with bluetooth isn't runnign kubuntu, and that function isn't working [06:38] when I connect the encrypted hard drive it asks for a password and I give it and its says its a not a mountable file system... if I do mount manually it saus unknown file system type crypto_LUKS error [06:39] abe: I don't have bluetooth on this computer [06:39] ah... that's ok :-) [06:39] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html [06:40] phani: ^^^ [06:40] Daskreech/Ipslore : when I go to /dev/mapper I can see my encrypted hard drive like tis : udisks-luks-uuid-f4d08c59-6405-478c-b847-897519307d58-uid94056 [06:40] looking into the link [06:41] phani > well when I use a crypted volume, I always mount smthing from /dev/mapper [06:43] Does anyone know if the 4.8.2 packages will be available for kubuntu 11.10 ? [06:44] can any kind kubuntu-er with bluetooth pls test for me if in Dolphin, right click a file->send via Bluetooth is working or not? [06:44] ipslore/Daskreech : when I scan for volumegroup it shows as: sudo vgscan --mknodes [06:44] Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... [06:44] Found duplicate PV 6PKs2wU8dj19oHO05ID0AcBI7lxMu5Sr: using /dev/mapper/crypt1 not /dev/mapper/udisks-luks-uuid-f4d08c59-6405-478c-b847-897519307d58-uid94056 [06:44] Found volume group "sysvg" using metadata type lvm2 [06:44] Found volume group "sysvg" using metadata type lvm2 [06:44] phani: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. === bryan is now known as Guest1513 [06:47] Daskreech: when I try to follow the doc you have given it gives an error like tis: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' [06:48] also this if I mount via GUI : unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' [07:09] phani: you can ignore the lvm section if you don't have LVM [07:09] Ipslore: They will be available [07:09] but I am unable to mount it in anyway.... either in GUI or via CLI [07:10] Daskreech: thx [07:10] phani: what happened once it asked for your password? [07:12] Here is what and how I am doing... Connecting the hard drive and it shows under computer -> Click on it -> Asks for password ->Enter ->Error is : Not a mountable file system [07:13] phani: you said you mounted it manually how were you doing that? [07:15] via CLI : cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc5 crypt1 -> keyslot unlocked [07:15] check /dev/mapper and I see crypt1 there [07:15] phani: Right then ? [07:17] mount /dev/mapper/crypt1 /mnt/backup error : unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' or crytpo_LUKS error [07:18] phani: do you have that partition on LVM ? [07:18] how to find that ? [07:18] using Gparted can I ? [07:19] try pvscan [07:19] if I use gparted and select drive /dev/sdc5 says file system : crypt-luks [07:19] trying pcvscan [07:21] sudo pvscan [07:21] ok [07:26] nothing ? [07:27] right now its not showing anything when i try to run the command cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc5 crypt1 says crypt1 already exists [07:27] but I can't find it /dev/napper [07:27] *mapper [07:27] not sure what happened suddenly.. [07:28] even pvscan or lvdisplay shows only original harddrive but nt the external one connected [07:28] i can see that by running sudo fdisk -l [07:29] i think i need to reboot my machine and connect back bt how can i contact you again ? :( [07:29] phani: log back in here? [07:30] yes [07:30] ok let me reboot and connect back in 2 min [07:30] sorry [07:30] sure [07:34] kmix crashes for every song change [07:35] Daskreech: I'm back... [07:35] phani2: twice as good as before [07:35] phoenix_firebrd: :-o [07:35] Daskreech: :) [07:38] phoenix_firebrd: I presume you are all up2date ? [07:39] Daskreech : Here is via CLI : cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 encrypted -> Enter passphrase for /dev/sdb5 -> Key slot 1 unlocked. [07:39] Daskreech: using kde 4.8.1 on kubuntu 12.04 beta 2, but i had the problem also in kubuntu 11.10 kde 4.8.1 [07:40] phoenix_firebrd: what soundcard? [07:40] Daskreech: creative sound blaster live 24 bit [07:40] phani2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/mapper/encrypted [07:40] phoenix_firebrd: oh >_> [07:42] Daskreech: Please see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/917107/ [07:42] Daskreech: any solution? [07:44] phoenix_firebrd: I'm not sure. The Creative Labs guys are being a bit difficult so not sure what the approach should be [07:44] Daskreech: is it a driver issue? [07:45] phoenix_firebrd: That would be my first guess but I don't know enough to go either way [07:45] I suppose getting the traceback for the crash is the best way to go [07:46] Daskreech: i have the crash report, can you take a look? [07:47] Daskreech : pv display shows as : http://paste.ubuntu.com/917111/ [07:47] phoenix_firebrd: pastebin it [07:48] phani2: sudo vgscan [07:48] Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/452594/ [07:49] Daskreech: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/917113/ [07:50] phani2: sudo lvscan [07:51] Daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917116/ [07:51] phoenix_firebrd: looks good. Can you put that in a bug report? [07:52] Daskreech: sure [07:52] phani2: do you have a /dev/sysvg/root file ? [07:52] in /dev/mapper : yes but if I mount that to /mnt it shows the local hard drive info and not the external hard drive... [07:53] phoenix_firebrd: Ok looks to be some listen event in Qwatcher crashing from Pulseaudio [07:53] hi all, just updated to latest updates in precise and now I cannot log in [07:53] georgelappies: join #ubuntu+1 [07:54] Daskreech: line number please [07:54] phani2: you don't have a /dev/sysvg directory ? [07:54] phoenix_firebrd: hmm? no use the entire thing when you are posting the bug [07:54] I do have and in that I can root and swap which in turn is a symlink points to /dev/mapper [07:55] phani2: which if you mount to /mnt/backup is not the encrypted drive ? [07:56] it seems that should be the external drive from the sequence you posted [07:56] Daskreech: There are some missing debugging symbols, i will install it and do a new backtrace and i will get back to you [07:57] phoenix_firebrd: Thanks it was a little sparse :) [07:57] Daskreech : Nope . It shows the laptop's hard drive data and not the encrypted hard drive info which I want [07:57] Daskreech: :) [07:59] phani2: How big is the laptop hard drive? [08:00] I have 2 harddrives of 160GB each... encrypted 160 and laptop's 160GB [08:00] That's not helpful :) [08:01] you mean the size of the hard drive ? [08:01] I am using IBM T400 laptop [08:01] Yeah umm let me wee [08:01] see [08:04] phani2: pastebin sudo fdisk -l === richard is now known as Guest59143 [08:05] Daskreech : here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/917130/ [08:08] Are they clones of each other? [08:08] Daskreech : nope [08:10] phani2: hmm ok [08:13] any other hints ? [08:14] Daskreech : If I do like this : mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/backup/ : mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS' [08:19] Crypto_LUKS means it need to be opened with luksOpen You did that laready [08:22] Daskreech: ok [08:29] Daskreech : so any more suggestions that's left for us to troubleshoot ;) [08:33] try removing the crpty paition and seei f /dev/sysau\nmus gyestikd [08:50] confirmed with another kubuntu (kde 4.8.1) user of not working Dolphin -> right click a file -> Send via Bluetooth. Anyone got it to work on their system? [08:51] abe, I don't use bluetooth myself, byt perhaps the terminal can tell you of some errors, just launch dolphin through a terminal and do it again. [08:53] lordievader: unfortunately nothing :( Actually I'm currently on a gentoo system and is not working also. I am just wondering if it's the same for kubuntu also (but my kubuntu old laptop doesn't have bt) [08:56] abe, I'm sorry I can't be of further help, as I said I don't use bluetooth, perhaps some one else here knows something else you can try the forums: ubuntuforums.org [08:56] thanks lordievader:-) [08:57] I'll hang around to see if any kind kubuntu-er with bluetooth can try for me (right click file in dolphin -> Send via bluetooth) [09:06] abe: I'm trying to send an mp4 file to my android phone via bt [09:06] (kubuntu 11.10) [09:06] it seems to work, but transfert is very slow [09:08] ah cool! [09:08] mine just got stuck at "transfering" always 0% [09:09] Ipslore: did it finish eventually? [09:09] well not realy better here [09:10] stuck after 83.6 kio transfered [09:10] I have to cancel the transfert [09:11] well... at least it's better than 0% :) [09:11] yup, but still unsable ;) [09:12] Ipslore: I was trying to use "bluedevil-sendfile -u -f " also, but it segfault straight away [09:13] I wonder if that works for you :) [09:13] because at least you got some progress [09:14] abe: same as you : segfault [09:16] hmm... thought you would have gone further! [09:17] Ipslore: thanks for the info :) [09:20] you're welcome. GL for that issue. [10:04] hi. looks like I have a clash between the nouveau driver and nvidia official driver here on a default installation [10:05] sebastian_, that could be, what kind of error or behaviour do you see? [10:05] nouveau and nvidia-common are installes and glxinfo says Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". [10:06] I've asked in freenode #nouveau and they say it may be a clash [10:07] nvidia-common and nvidia-current are installed [10:07] could very well be, do you like experimenting with video drivers? you could try to remove one and see if it fixes the clash, but you might endup with a box not willing to boot X [10:08] that's a fresh installation without any needed data [10:09] that is not what I am saying, what I mean is remove either nouveau or the nvidia driver, reboot and see if it fixes anything. but as I said you might end up without a gui [10:10] if I end up without X, can you give me some hints to revover? [10:10] that's the tricky part, do you have a secondary pc? from there you can lookup the command to reinstall a driver [10:11] I have, yes [10:11] a good first question do you need the GLX extension? [10:12] I've a resonable 2d acceleration here [10:13] because if you do not really need it, why bother going through the trouble of fixing it? [10:13] but: " shouldn't hurt" [10:13] maybe I'm not the only one with that problem [10:16] k this is the secondary pc [10:16] I'll try to install nvidia [10:16] I'll try to uninstall nvidia [10:16] I'd say remove the nouveau [10:17] and then run, how was it called?, nvidia-config? [10:17] hm [10:17] Something along those lines, let me look it up. [10:17] nvidia-xconfig [10:18] Yea that is probably it, but TheHammer and sebastian_ are the same right? [10:18] yep [10:18] ok [10:20] what is that dpkg command called? dpkg --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ? [10:20] You can just use apt-get, sudo apt-get remove nouveau* [10:21] k let's try [10:24] fyi this just removed the metapackage xserver-xorg-video-all [10:25] Huh, it is supposed to remove more... else open muon and look for nouveau and remove all the packages with nouveau in the title [10:26] ok, if I want to uninstall nouveau*, it wants to remove everything [10:27] everytjomg related to nouveau? [10:27] everythin* [10:27] including kde, alsa, kernel 3.2, X [10:27] yea that is probably not good... [10:28] network-manager, ubuntu-minimal [10:28] remove the nouveau packages through muon else [10:31] let's say I can't uninstall libdrm-nouveau1a [10:31] without breaking some dependencies [10:31] nah leave it, probably wont do that much bad things [10:31] that's just the Userspace interface [10:32] k I'll restart, because you folks removed the ctrl+alt+backspace command :) [10:33] it annoys me too... [10:33] I'm stll here ... [10:34] X is up [10:34] That nice [10:36] but glx is still missing, should I try to execute nvidia-xconfig or reconfigure xserver-xorg [10:37] nvidia-xconfig does exactly that [10:38] can anyone tell me how to make grub automatically load the kernel while booting [10:38] lordievader, ty [10:39] arshinator, he doesnt? did you edit grub? [10:39] TheHammer, no problem, GLX is now loading? [10:39] lordievader, none moment [10:39] lordievader, one moment [10:40] lordievader: no i lost grub after installing windows...restored it through the live cd...but nw i have to manually load the linux kernel whenever i start the system [10:40] let grub reconfigure [10:41] arshinator, sudo update-grub [10:41] everytime i start the system i get the grub prompt and from there i have to load the kernel..i want it to give me options between windows and kubuntu when i start [10:41] lordievader, glx is still missing, the display resolutio is not 640x480 or so [10:41] lordievader, glx is still missing, the display resolutio is now 640x480 or so [10:41] lordievader, i did that but no use [10:42] TheHammer, hmm that aint good, can you configure it using nvidia-settings? [10:44] arshinator, phew grub2 is quite different, anyhow what does the file /etc/default/grub say? [10:44] lordievader, nvidia-settings says nvidia driver isn't loaded, but the xorg.conf says it is. I think this is the cause of the bad resolution. [10:45] lordievader, u want me to paste the contents of the file? [10:45] that is probable, try reinstalling the driver, i.e. download it from nvidia using wget and running the installer [10:45] !paste [10:45] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:46] lordievader,http://paste.kde.org/452732/ [10:47] Hmm well it is different from mine, on one thing, in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT I got the same thing except without the 5 [10:49] arshinator, in grub you do have entries for your install? [10:49] lordievader, i guess this file is fine....but i still can't get grub to automatically load the kernel [10:50] lordievader, nvidia driver don't like a running x server. an idea how to disable it except sudo echo "foo" >> xorg.conf [10:51] TheHammer, hit ctrl + alt+ f1 [10:51] lordievader, no all i get at the startup is the grub prompt..and then from there i have to set root....load insid and kernel image and then manually boot it [10:51] assuming you run kde, type sudo service kdm stop [10:51] arshinator, well there you have the reason for it not booting [10:52] lordievader, i dont get it? [10:52] if grub doesn't have any entries how is he supposed to know what to boot? [10:53] lordievader, could u pls tell me how can i fix it? [10:54] here someone says that the command sudo update-grub did fix it, what output do you get from it? [10:54] it did not [10:54] arshinator, but what output does it give? [10:56] it does not give any error....it upadtes it http://paste.kde.org/452750/ [10:57] lordievader, that's an evil trap: if you make a mistake in your xorg.conf, X doesn't start and you don't get a console either [10:57] TheHammer, the whole nvidia-xconfig thing? [10:57] yep [10:57] I believe my nvidia card did work with it tough :P [10:58] ctrl + alt+ f1 didn't work, becase it recognized the running x [10:58] so I prepended foo to the xorg.conf [10:58] and restarted [10:59] yeah then you'll get a promt [10:59] prompt* [10:59] nope [10:59] no promt, just a black screen [10:59] TheHammer, wait so now you are stuck with a black screen? [10:59] yep [11:00] sshd is not installed [11:00] arshinator, this command didn't work? it does show it found an linux kernel [11:00] and the ctrl+alt+fXX didn't work? [11:00] lordievader, nope [11:01] lordievader, no this did not do anything...i also did a grub reinstall and the grub-update...even that didn't work [11:01] TheHammer, reboot and use the recovery mode, from there you can drop to a root shell, make sure to mount the drives first [11:03] arshinator, you are on the actual install right, not the live cd? [11:03] ok esc got me to a shell [11:03] yes [11:03] run this : sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX; sudo update-grub (replacing the X with your harddrive with ubuntu on it) [11:05] lordievader, I've removed the xorg.conf and will now install nouveau and remove nvidia [11:05] yeah if that works, go for it! [11:10] yep opengl is working [11:10] Oh ok, nice :) [11:18] lordievader: to summary: there is a clash in the _default_ installation and uninstalling the nvidia driver worked [11:19] sebastian__, yes that would be a good summary, another would be that video drivers are a pain in the ass [11:20] they are - indeed === david is now known as Guest84416 [12:21] Daskreech: are you there? [12:32] hi all, anybody else unable to login to KDE after the lastest updates from a few hours ago? [12:33] georgelappies, I am updating right now, so we'll see [12:33] O hey it is done, lets reboot and see. [12:34] me holds thumbs for lordievader! [12:42] I can still login like normal. [12:42] And I am running 4.8.2 [13:42] so I want to move partitions around a lil, I've got 2 partitions on sda (1 and 5) and would like to move sda5 to sdb which is a completely new ssd [13:43] now I need a proper way to move the partition there and update grub on the way to look for its modules in the new place [13:59] helo [13:59] hello [14:01] there anybody here? [14:01] there anybody here? [14:01] kyo: hi [14:02] hi phoenix [14:03] no activity? [14:03] here? [14:03] kyo: ya [14:03] do you speak english? spanish? [14:04] kyo: english [14:04] ok [14:04] how are you? [14:05] kyo: i am fine, thank you [14:05] good [14:06] do not speak much truth? [14:07] kyo: i speak a lot [14:08] but.....? [14:08] kyo: what? [14:09] because do you not write more? [14:09] kyo: we are not suppose to talk any other thing except the OS related issues [14:10] in this channel [14:10] thrue [14:10] so how do I tell grub to use another partition for its modules and everything? [14:12] i don't know [14:56] Did you hear what's comming? Aliens are comming but only for one reason to fix the god dam kmail2 and get the hell out.... [14:57] they are on CNN! tune in.... [15:00] yes yes it's fixed! it's fixed... === szal_ is now known as szal [15:35] hiyas all [15:37] Hi BluesKaj [15:43] hi Daskreech , finally got kmail working with gmail -imap , now I just have to figure out what my ISP email server uses ..probly imap as well , since it's been contracted to a webmail server [15:45] BluesKaj: so you become a ISP's support nightnamre [15:47] What do you mean you aren't using Outlook? [15:47] Daskreech, well, it was mainly a challenge for me to get kmail/akonadi working ...I suspect i won't need to use kmail much [15:50] BluesKaj: you don't get a lot of mail? [15:52] oh I do Daskreech , but it's all on webmail ...no more pop servers [15:54] ahh I started using Kmail for the same reasons and now i dont use webmail much... [15:54] BluesKaj: ^^^ this [15:55] Gmail does have some things like archiving that are more useful through the web interface but kmail does pretty well [15:57] frankly the kmail email interface isn't my style , if prefer a simpler look [15:57] hi === carlos is now known as Guest80789 [15:58] mm [15:58] poke [15:59] hi [16:00] BluesKaj: like just a listing of the headers and body? [16:01] Daskreech, yes [16:02] true tht kmail isnt user attractive the first times... i have to admit that the fist time i used it i endedup removing it. But once passed the first step its quite userfriendly [16:02] hi [16:03] but gmail too :p the main difference is not to open your browser to check mails [16:03]