| mimcpher | azend: Wayland is available in 12.04! It's really not ready yet, though. | 02:00 |
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| mimcpher | I'm going to spend some of my free time this summer working on Wayland | 02:00 |
| azend | Yeah I heard that | 02:01 |
| azend | I'm just more surprise that there hasn't been more talk about it lately | 02:01 |
| azend | <mimcpher> I'm going to spend some of my free time this summer working on Wayland | 02:02 |
| azend | awesome | 02:02 |
| johanbr | azend, I don't think Wayland is even close to being ready for replacing xorg | 02:08 |
| azend | johanbr: I'm sure it isn't | 02:09 |
| azend | that's why I haven't tested it out yet | 02:09 |
| mimcpher | GTK3 stuff is starting to work on it. | 02:16 |
| mimcpher | Get Firefox, a decent terminal emulator, and a PDF viewer? Then I'm 80% of the way ready to switch. | 02:16 |
| trifolio6 | hola | 03:43 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | anyone know if they've changed their mind about supporting remote-x? That's a no-go feature requirement on my end. | 04:20 |
| mimcpher | What do you mean by supporting remote-X? They want some remote protocol, but it won't be X. | 04:23 |
| mimcpher | Supporting X as a remote protocol would just be dumb. | 04:23 |
| mimcpher | The whole point of the project is to kill X with fire: It makes a bad local display because of too many layers of indirection, and it makes a bad remote protocol because it's performance sucks. | 04:24 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | mimcpher: if it's not compatible with X, it's going to take a LONG time to catch on, event if Canonical pushes it. | 04:26 |
| mimcpher | DarwinSu1vivor: you can run X on top of wayland for compat purposes, locally. | 04:26 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | The only workaround I've seen so far resembles RDP which is NOT a solution | 04:26 |
| mimcpher | Remoteness hasn't been solved, but it's not at that stage. | 04:27 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | at this point remote-x is a very well established standard. even the n810 can run apps from remote machines (though not in revers oddly enough) | 04:28 |
| mimcpher | It can do VNC too! | 04:30 |
| mimcpher | Arguably even better established. | 04:37 |
| mimcpher | not that VNC is particularily good -- it's a pretty naive protocol. | 04:38 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | vnc is not much better than rdp. I don't want to view the entire desktop to run 1 applications. | 04:50 |
| DarwinSu1vivor | brb | 04:51 |
| mimcpher | Well, vnc is worse than rdp in most ways :P | 05:25 |
| mimcpher | Viewing the entire desktop versus individual apps is an orthogonal, implementation-dependent problem though. | 05:25 |
| DarwinSurvivor | I *much* prefer individual apps over entire desktops. uses less bandwidth and allows me to use MY window manager :D | 05:26 |
| mimcpher | Right, but that's completely seperate issue. You can have a VNC client that only forwards 1 app | 05:27 |
| mimcpher | Anyways, this is a silly theoretical argument since nobody's made a wayland remote server yet :P | 05:27 |
| DarwinSurvivor | lol, very true | 05:29 |
| DarwinSurvivor | and also one of the reasons I'm not holding my breath for it. | 05:29 |
| DarwinSurvivor | :P | 05:29 |
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