[14:59]  * skaet waves
[15:00] <roadmr> hey!
[15:00]  * ogasawara waves
[15:00] <mdeslaur> o/
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <arosales> Hello
[15:01] <jibel> hello ~o~
[15:01] <skaet> [TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet
[15:01] <skaet> Please remember to .. when you're done, and o/ if you want us to pause. :)
[15:01] <skaet> Agenda can be found:
[15:01] <skaet> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-04-06
[15:01] <skaet> Individual team status links will be added to it from:
[15:01] <skaet> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-March/thread.html
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> We're now in Beta 2 Freeze, and the archive is frozen, so all changes will need to be reviewed by the release team.   Changes to the unseeded universe can continue to go in, but changes to seeded packages will need review.
[15:01] <skaet> #ubuntu-release if questions, please.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Archive went back to being frozen yesterday.  -proposed should be used for uploads might cause archive skew, see:
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet>  Schedule is at:
[15:01] <skaet>  #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[15:01] <skaet>  #link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/
[15:01] <skaet>  .
[15:01] <skaet> Upcoming Dates:
[15:01] <skaet> • 2012/04/12 - Final Freeze at 2100 UTC
[15:01] <skaet> • 2012/04/19 - Release Candidate Images start
[15:01] <skaet> • 2012/04/24 - Unseeded Universe Final Freeze at 1200 UTC
[15:02] <skaet> • 2012/04/26 - Release
[15:02] <skaet> .
[15:02] <skaet>  Bugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found:
[15:02] <skaet>  #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
[15:02] <skaet> Bugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found.
[15:02] <skaet> .
[15:02] <skaet> Individual Team Statuses Received by 1500 UTC:
[15:02] <skaet> Hardware Certification - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001081.html - brendand
[15:02] <skaet> Quality Assurance -  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001091.html - jibel
[15:02] <skaet> Security team  - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001095.html - mdeslaur
[15:02] <skaet> Kernel team - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001086.html - ogasawara
[15:02] <skaet> Foundations - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001084.html-  slangasek
[15:02] <skaet> Server - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001090.html -arosales
[15:02] <skaet> Linaro - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001094.html  - fabo
[15:02] <skaet> Ubuntu One - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001088.html-  joshuahoover
[15:02] <skaet> Desktop Team - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001092.html - seb128
[15:02] <skaet> Unity Framework Team - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001093.html - dbarth
[15:02] <skaet> Unity Services and Settings -https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001096.html  - Cimi
[15:02] <skaet> Kubuntu - no update-  Riddell
[15:02] <skaet> Edubuntu -no update - stgraber or highvoltage
[15:02] <skaet> Xubuntu - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001098.html - astraljava
[15:02] <skaet> Ubuntu Studio - no update - scott-work
[15:02] <skaet> Lubuntu - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-April/001097.html - gilir
[15:02] <skaet> Mythbuntu - no update - superm1
[15:02] <skaet> .
[15:03] <skaet> [TOPIC] Comments, Question and Answer Session
[15:03] <ogasawara> o/
[15:03] <skaet> ogasawara, go.
[15:03] <ogasawara> 2 things...
[15:03] <ogasawara> 1) I've responded to hw cert's meeting email with a status for their
[15:03] <ogasawara> blocking bugs.  Of the kernel bugs on the list, 88219 should be closed,
[15:03] <ogasawara> 918769 & 976023 are pending feedback from cert, 926136 still under investigation.
[15:03] <ogasawara> 2) As noted in my email, I'd like to coordinate with the release team the
[15:03] <ogasawara> best date to upload the kernel.  There does exist skew between the
[15:03] <ogasawara> kernel and gcc.  Even though there should be no impact with the gcc
[15:03] <ogasawara> changes, I'd rather err on the safe side and get us in sync.
[15:03] <ogasawara> Additionally, there are some last minute bug fixes (one of which I would deem
[15:03] <ogasawara> release critical) that I would like to see make the release.  I've
[15:03] <ogasawara> suggested a date of Tues April 10.  Thoughts?
[15:04] <ogasawara> ..
[15:04] <skaet> thanks ogasawara,  I'm not seeing brendand,  but will follow up.
[15:04] <roadmr> o/
[15:04] <skaet> upload of kernel on April 10 is a reasonable target.   Will bug:919281 and bug:751689 (criticals) be included with it?
[15:05] <ogasawara> bug 919281 will
[15:05] <ogasawara> bug 751689 is still unresolved
[15:06] <skaet> ogasawara,  thanks.
[15:06] <skaet> ..
[15:06] <skaet> roadmr, go.
[15:06] <roadmr> I'm here on behalf of brendand. We got ogasawara's email and will follow up on it (cert engineers have been advised to provide the requested feedback and we'll look at and close the bugs that need it).
[15:07] <roadmr> Also if there are more certification-related questions, I'm happy to answer them today. Thanks!
[15:07] <roadmr> ..
[15:07] <skaet> thanks roadmr.  :)
[15:07] <skaet> slangasek, seb128 - looks like we're at an impass with bug:966294.... fabo - does anyone on your team have gstreamer experience that can help with this before next tuesday?
[15:08] <fabo> skaet: I can ask to rob if he can help
[15:09] <skaet> thanks fabo.   please ask him to coordinate with slangasek.  :)
[15:09] <skaet> fabo,  for the powerVR SGX ARMHF driver review/approval - who is it blocking on?
[15:09] <fabo> skaet: I'm sending a mail to multimedia WG and cc Steve
[15:10] <skaet> fabo,   sounds good.
[15:10] <slangasek> fwiw I don't think we're going to make headway on that gstreamer bug before Tuesday regardless
[15:10] <fabo> skaet: last week, it was pending on infinity but my data could be outdated now.
[15:10] <slangasek> it does require access to reproducer hardware, not sure if I can find one of those again today
[15:10] <slangasek> fabo: pvr-omap4 was accepted into precise last night (per my followup mail)
[15:10] <slangasek> if there's anything else you're missing, please shout
[15:10]  * skaet nods
[15:11] <fabo> slangasek: thanks!
[15:12] <skaet> .. (I'm thinking we're done on this topic.
[15:12] <skaet> o/
[15:12] <skaet> following up on what jibel says in his status,  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects/opened,  still has bugs with importance "Undecided" set from beta1 and beta2.   dbarth, slangasek, ogasawara, seb128 - can you please take a pass and make sure there are no high/critical bugs in that set?
[15:12] <jbicha> o/
[15:12] <ogasawara> skaet: ack
[15:12] <slangasek> skaet: ack
[15:13] <skaet> thanks ogasawara, slangasek.   I'll see if we can find some desktop and dx later.
[15:13] <skaet> jbicha go.
[15:14] <jbicha> I was just saying hi, I don't know if I'm needed for this week's meeting :)
[15:14] <skaet> anyone have any UIFes pending? .....  (and thanks for showing up jbicha)
[15:15] <gilir> skaet, I have one for the slideshow
[15:16] <skaet> jbicha,  am assumming there's no lubuntu in any of the shots you're caring about?
[15:17] <skaet> gilir,  mail out to the ubuntu-doc and ubuntu-translator list (if there are strings that might need translating) and let them know about it please.   Is there a bug number yet?
[15:17] <gilir> if it's too late, it can be dropped, it's not an essential one
[15:17] <gilir> bug 958880
[15:18] <gilir> the 2 teams are already aware of the change (link on the bug report)
[15:18] <skaet> gilir, should probably be ok then.   Will review after meeting.
[15:18] <gilir> thanks :)
[15:19] <skaet> all,  Any FFe's still anticipated, or are we through with them now?
[15:20] <Cimi> fine on my side
[15:20] <skaet> :)
[15:21] <Cimi> of course congrats to whoever is on holiday but is still working for the passion for ubuntu :)
[15:21] <skaet> Glad to hear it,  sounds like we're likely going to be done for seeded universe FFes then for Precise :)
[15:21]  * skaet crosses fingers
[15:21] <skaet> arosales, Daviey - are all the MIR requested packages seeded?
[15:23]  * skaet is a bit concerned about them being considered under the Unseeded Universe reviews...
[15:23] <arosales> skaet: All the high priority ones are on the correct track, I believe
[15:23] <skaet> thanks arosales.  :)
[15:24] <skaet> ..
[15:24] <arosales> skaet: there are a fewer lower priorities ones that may not make, but are still on the list, such as ceph
[15:24] <arosales> ..
[15:25]  * skaet looks around for other questions...
[15:25] <skaet> raise hand if you have any,  I'll continue until I see one.
[15:26] <skaet> release team members,  any concerns about the plan for the rest of the month in yesterday's email?
[15:26] <skaet> slangasek, ScottK, Daviey, ^ and anyone else around?
[15:27] <slangasek> no concerns from me
[15:27] <slangasek> provided that everyone is happy to commit to the proposed etherpad usage
[15:27] <ScottK> It's still more bureaucracy than I'd prefer, but I think it's reasonable.
[15:28] <skaet> thanks slangasek, ScottK.    ok,  lets see if we can make it work.  :)
[15:28] <skaet> ..
[15:28] <skaet> Any package fixes about to land over the holiday weekend that need to make sure go in ASAP?
[15:29]  * skaet thanks all who are attending this meeting on Good Friday as well.   Much appreciated.
[15:29] <slangasek> there'll be an eglibc upload soon-ish fwiw
[15:29] <slangasek> with packaging fixes only
[15:29] <slangasek> (including whacking the last stale conffile on server upgrades, in jibel's report)
[15:30] <skaet> :)  goodness.   thanks for the background on that one.
[15:30] <slangasek> oh, it's not all packaging fixes, I should say
[15:30] <slangasek> there are some crasher bugs to be fixed as well, that were escalated to us by desktop
[15:31] <Cimi> skaet, :)
[15:31]  * skaet nods
[15:31] <slangasek> skaet: bug #929219, for reference
[15:32] <skaet> thanks slangasek,   will keep an eye open for it on Saturday and Sunday then.
[15:32] <skaet> ScottK,  anything from the Kubuntu team about to land, or general updates?
[15:32] <slangasek> skaet: well, maybe check with infinity first if you have him in reach today, since it's subject to his timeline - I'm not committing him to working on it over the weekend, just giving you a heads-up that it may land :)
[15:33] <skaet> slangasek,  fair enough.  :)
[15:33] <ScottK> Hello
[15:34] <ScottK> For Kubuntu we landed Qt 4.8.1 and KDE SC 4.8.2.  Those are our last planned significant version updates.
[15:36] <skaet> ..?
[15:38] <skaet> ScottK,  slangasek - did discussion switch to ubuntu-release by accident?   should we go on?
[15:39] <slangasek> skaet: sorry, I was following up out-of-band with ScottK on a point I didn't think I needed to burden the group with :)
[15:39] <slangasek> ("my universe voip chat client acts funny with the new qt" is not a release-meeting-worthy issue)
[15:40] <skaet> ScottK,  you finished?   couldn't tell.
[15:40]  * skaet assumes he is....
[15:41] <dbarth> o/
[15:41] <skaet> go ahead dbarth
[15:41] <dbarth> hey
[15:41] <dbarth> just to point out
[15:41] <dbarth> jibel: bugs #964749, #965677, #964112, #968846, #942836, #939745 are duplicates; the real ones are fixed now
[15:41] <dbarth> which means that the high/critical on the list above should be fine now, with the 5.10.0 release that is being prepared for next week
[15:42] <skaet> thanks dbarth,  is ETA on monday or tuesday for it?
[15:42] <dbarth> tuesday i think, need to check with didrocks
[15:42] <dbarth> the freeze should be in effect by now
[15:42] <dbarth> unity trunk freeze, that is
[15:42] <dbarth> ..
[15:42] <skaet> dbarth,  thanks.
[15:43] <jibel> dbarth, k, there was a bug in the tracker with duplicates that I just fixed.
[15:43] <dbarth> ok
[15:43] <ScottK> skaet: Sorry.  In a conference and got distracted.
[15:43] <skaet> any one else have remaining questions for this week? ...
[15:44] <skaet> Thank you for your participation, roadmr, jibel, mdeslaur, slangasek, dbarth, arosales,  fabo, Cimi, ScottK, gilir, jbicha, ogasawara
[15:44] <skaet> #endmeeting
[15:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Apr  6 15:44:45 2012 UTC.
[15:44] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-06-15.00.moin.txt
[15:44] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-06-15.00.html
[15:44] <Cimi> yw
[15:44] <mdeslaur> thanks skaet!
[15:44] <roadmr> thanks!
[15:44] <arosales> skaet: thanks for chariing :-)
[15:45] <jibel> thansk skaet !
[15:45] <skaet> Hope everyone has a very good holiday weekend.
[15:45] <astraljava> Thanks skaet, all, good holidays if you have them!
[15:45] <dbarth> skaet: fyi, tuesday at the earliest, says didrocks :/
[15:46] <skaet> dbarth,  thanks for letting me know.