[05:06] <astromech> good morning everyone
[06:08] <sagaci_> ah, kazam screencaster seems a hell of a lot better now
[08:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:51] <AlanBell> morning
[08:57] <dogmatic69> o/
[09:16] <popey> morning
[09:17] <czajkowski> hows folks?
[09:29] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:31] <dwatkins> hiya brobostigon
[09:31] <brobostigon> hi dwatkins
[09:32] <dwatkins> I got post on a bank holiday, I was very surprised.
[09:33] <brobostigon> :)
[09:34] <dwatkins> even better, it's a game I sent back to lovefilm in error
[09:35]  * dwatkins goes to wash up
[09:49]  * kvarley1 foolishly went to the sorting office and then realised it was a bank holiday. Doh! (dwatkins)
[09:56] <zleap> oops
[09:57] <kvarley1> Indeed
[09:58] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:58] <kvarley1> hey bigcalm - how's it going?
[09:59] <bigcalm> Wondering why I'm in the office today
[09:59] <bigcalm> You?
[09:59] <kvarley> Setting up Ubuntu Minimal on my new arm board =]
[10:04] <czajkowski> bigcalm: why you working it's a bank holiday!
[10:04]  * Laney is working too
[10:04]  * BigRedS is working
[10:05] <Laney> day off in lieuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[10:05] <BigRedS> yeah, my bank holiday weekend is next weekend
[10:05] <BigRedS> and it's five days long:)
[10:05] <czajkowski> BigRedS: sweet any plans ?
[10:06] <BigRedS> yeah, lots of helping parents get my stuff out of their houses :(
[10:07] <bigcalm> czajkowski: too much to do and Hayley is out for the day with a friend
[10:07] <BigRedS> Oh, and maybe fixing my brother's bike. I'm in two minds as to whether I want him to have finished it this weekend.
[10:07] <bigcalm> czajkowski: what else am I to do? My default setting it to sit in front of a computer
[10:09]  * czajkowski is offline for the rest of the day 
[10:09] <BigRedS> czajkowski: you up to much over this weekend? If so, why are you online now? :)
[10:09] <czajkowski> toodles folks
[10:09] <BigRedS> aha!
[10:09] <bigcalm> Taaraa
[10:09] <BigRedS> have fun!
[10:40] <Laney> just listened to bleeping for 10 minutes thinking that the album was a lot more experimental than expected
[10:40] <Laney> turns out that spotify was just having an episode
[10:42] <bigcalm> Haha
[10:46] <gordonjcp> Laney: lol
[10:46] <Laney> i was actually in the middle of writing an angry tweet when i checked the one song that i already know :P
[10:50] <bigcalm> The Linux client is still buggy, yay
[10:50] <Laney> proxy support is still a bit faily too
[10:51] <bigcalm> Trying to create a new radio station but I can't enter text into the box. Can paste via the context menu though
[11:12] <bigcalm> Milkshake by Kelis just started on Spotify
[11:12] <bigcalm> Sadly, I can only see Peter Griffin performing it now
[11:19] <bigcalm> Bonkers!
[11:19]  * bigcalm cranks up the volume and bass
[11:24] <popey> haha
[11:33] <astromech> what did you get for your birthday popey ?
[11:33] <bigcalm> A broken xbox
[11:33] <bigcalm> Sorry :(
[11:38] <popey> haha
[11:38] <popey> got a refund for kinect
[11:39] <bigcalm> Yay
[11:46] <bigcalm> Send the xbox to Apple, see how far their customer support goes
[11:48] <dogmatic69> update for 12.04b2 are > 600mb :(
[11:48]  * bigcalm slithers out in search for lunch
[11:48] <bigcalm> Updates are good!
[11:49] <dogmatic69> not 600mb+ updates, that is 50mb short of downloading the whole thing again
[11:49] <penguin42> dogmatic69: Progress!
[11:50] <dogmatic69> penguin42: it is quite buggy. lost of small things
[11:50] <dogmatic69> nothing major yet
[11:50] <penguin42> dogmatic69: Make sure even the small things get lp'reported
[11:50] <dogmatic69> I will try, never done bugs for ubuntu
[11:52] <dogmatic69> I also dont know enough to tell if its a PEBKAC, app or ubuntu error
[11:56] <dogmatic69> main annoyance atm is copy paste. I used to just highlight in terminal, switch somewhere and ctrl+p. no that only works sometimes
[11:56] <dogmatic69> it is quite random how the copy paste behaves now.
[12:02] <penguin42> dogmatic69: To report a bug, get a launchpad.net account, then the easiest thing is in a terminal do    ubuntu-bug   packagename     where packagename is your best guess at the package responsible
[12:05] <popey> ctrl+p?
[12:05] <popey> never used that for paste
[12:07] <penguin42> me neither, I'm not sure what's doing that
[12:07] <dogmatic69> popey: i meant ctrl+v
[12:08] <dogmatic69> :D
[12:08] <dogmatic69> was just thinking ctrl + paste
[12:11] <dogmatic69> why does launchpad use bazaar, Y U NO HAVE GIT
[12:19] <penguin42> dogmatic69: I believe it's historic; I also don't like bzr, but it is quite neatly tied into launchpad in mayn ways
[12:20] <dogmatic69> would think with git been written by the god of linux it would be de-facto
[12:23] <dogmatic69> 565 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. Need to get 571 MB of archives.
[12:23] <dogmatic69> :O
[12:24] <popey> you'll get more on monday ☺
[12:25] <Laney> git hasn't always existed
[12:28] <dogmatic69> anyone know how to take a screen shot of a context menu
[12:28] <dogmatic69> without a camera :)
[12:30] <popey> super -> screenshot -> "grab after delay of "... seconds
[12:30] <popey> then open the menu
[12:42] <dogmatic69> how is this
[12:42] <dogmatic69> 975102
[12:43] <dogmatic69> bug 975102
[12:43] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 975102 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Context menus dont show until mouse over" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975102
[12:46] <popey> thats not an xorg bug
[12:46] <popey> almost certainly compiz
[12:46] <popey> i have seen it too, not recently though
[12:46] <popey> what version of compiz you using?
[12:46] <popey> dpkg -l compiz
[12:47] <penguin42> dogmatic69: Still, good for filing the bug!
[12:47] <popey> yes, totally ☺
[12:49] <popey> heh, not updated my nvidia desktop for a while, 715 packages to upgrade, 548MB :D
[12:49] <popey> wheeeeee
[12:55] <dogmatic69> popey: it was a 'best guess' 1:0.9.7.2-0ubuntu4
[12:56] <dogmatic69> popey: I can change it, i think
[12:57] <dogmatic69> updated the ticket, added the dpkg -l compiz
[12:57] <popey> ☺  dogmatic69
[13:19] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/rjTQH.jpg
[13:20] <Laney> Rick's AMA is (going to be) fun :-)
[13:20] <Laney> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rw6iu/iama_directory_of_engineering_for_canonical_i/
[13:21] <czajkowski> impressive
[13:22] <BigRedS> czajkowski: aren't you supposed to be offline enjoying the bank holiday? :)
[13:24]  * popey is getting tired of the 'ubuntu kernel' verses 'linux kernel' that keeps coming up after zonkers blog post
[13:26]  * Laney thinks he didn't mean totsay "the sun has set on Gnome"
[13:26]  * Laney giggles
[13:26] <popey> yeah
[13:26] <Laney> s/totsay/to say/
[13:26] <popey> flamey
[13:27] <MartijnVdS> Zoinks?
[13:28] <popey> http://dissociatedpress.net/2012/03/27/ubuntu-were-not-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-79919
[13:28] <popey> that comment answers it
[13:36] <dogmatic69> oooh, found another bug
[13:37] <dogmatic69> having 2x gedit windows open only shows one arrow on the launch icon.
[13:38] <popey> dogmatic69: have you logged out and back in since you updated unity/compiz?
[13:38] <dogmatic69> its still going
[13:38] <dogmatic69> updates crashed at some point and had to start over
[13:38] <popey> i wouldn't file any more bugs until you have fully updated and logged out and back in
[13:38] <dogmatic69> ye, I will hold out
[13:38] <popey> because updating unity causes odd launcher behaviour
[13:39] <popey> might still be a bug of course ☺
[13:39] <MartijnVdS> That's a bug in itself, imho
[13:39] <dogmatic69> was just going to say the same thing
[13:42] <popey> file it ☺
[13:48]  * Laney has discovered ebook-convert
[13:48] <Laney> specifically that it can convert LWN into mobi
[14:03] <czajkowski> BigRedS: chatting to other half he's on irc
[14:03] <czajkowski> plannign when and where I am to collect him later
[14:03] <BigRedS> czajkowski: Oh, alright then. I'll let you off
[14:18] <Laney> blast
[14:18] <Laney> I wanted to claim my cool Ubuntu flair on Reddit
[14:18] <Laney> but I cannot comment on http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/l5b3x/members_and_canonical_employees_claim_your_flair/ — can anyone else? is it closed?
[14:19] <BigRedS> Laney: yeah, I can't comment
[14:19] <Laney> perhaps 6 months is some kind of limit
[14:19] <BigRedS> Oh, there's a couple of posts I can reply to
[14:20] <BigRedS> ctrl-F for reply
[14:21] <Laney> anything < 6 months
[14:22] <dogmatic69> updates done \o/
[14:31] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Gareth France] Big Bens car boot sale  1st April 2012 - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=146
[15:37] <dogmatic69> popey: updated and restarted and still the issue with context menus
[15:38] <popey> dogmatic69: I'd do "ubuntu-bug compiz"
[15:39] <dogmatic69> I changed the ticket, would that not make a new one?
[15:40] <popey> oh ok, fair enough
[15:44] <ali1234> hmm an update for flash but it cannnot be installed
[15:44] <ali1234> and firefox has crashed
[15:46] <Azelphur> ali1234: flash full screen works for me now :o
[15:48] <Azelphur> on the downside, everything is blue
[15:48] <Azelphur> and it keeps overlaying itself on top of other applications
[16:03] <dwatkins> Azelphur: sounds like bug 968489
[16:03] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 967091 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #968489 Wrong tint with Nvidia after upgrading to 11.2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967091
[16:15] <ali1234> the new 12.04 wallpapers are somewhat uninspiring :(
[16:16] <AlanBell> I like the brown one with the pangolin on it
[16:16] <ali1234> that's probably the best one
[16:16] <ali1234> i particularly dislike all the macro photography ones
[16:17] <ali1234> now browsing /wg/
[16:18] <ali1234> the trouble with all the photos is they don't tile on multimonitor
[16:18] <ali1234> and they are too busy
[16:18] <ali1234> also the way the launcher tries to blend doesn't work very well with photographs
[16:23] <popey> ali1234: i think there's a bug in the colour matching
[16:23] <popey> i think it's known about
[16:23] <ali1234> well
[16:23] <popey> shows up badly on the puke desktop
[16:24] <ali1234> the puke desktop?
[16:24] <ali1234> you mean the pink and orange one?
[16:24] <popey> aubergine and orange yeah
[16:24] <ali1234> pink
[16:24]  * popey squints
[16:24] <Myrtti> pink mentioned
[16:24] <ali1234> all it needs to do, is do exactly what it does now, and then make the clour about 20% darker, and it will look fine
[16:25] <ali1234> at the moment it looks like a neon sign whenever it pops out
[16:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Evenin' all. Had a nice Good Friday everyone?
[16:26] <ali1234> there's no way to make the wallpaper fill both monitors
[16:26] <ali1234> this sucks
[16:26] <ali1234> it used to be possible
[16:26] <ali1234> why you have to rewrite everything and make it worse?
[16:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> I am just about to cook up some smoked salmon, cream & chive carbonara to serve with pasta.
[16:29] <ali1234> oh wait, span still works
[16:29] <ali1234> image just isn't quite the right size
[17:08] <Azelphur> can bank to bank transfers be reversed?
[17:16] <DJones> Azelphur: Very occasionally and not easily, probably 99 out 100 can't be cancelled
[17:16] <Azelphur> fun
[17:17] <DJones> I do a lot for work using online bank systems, to cancel, you have to ring the bank and they can try to cancel it, but I don't think I've seen any that have been cancelled in the last 18 months
[17:17] <Azelphur> :)
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> Wow.. that bad?
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> ♥ Dutch banking :)
[17:34] <ali1234> the state of blu-ray support on ubuntu is really awful
[17:35] <ali1234> k3b desn't work at all
[17:35] <ali1234> brasero only works with BD-RE and not BD-R
[17:35] <ali1234> there's no way to make a real blu-ray file system
[17:35] <ali1234> and no way to actually play a blu-ray without transcoding it first
[17:35] <ali1234> and no way to play the menus at all
[17:37] <ali1234> so i can burn a blu-ray ISO authored on windows, but only to a rewritable disc which cost £5 each, and then i've no way of testing it afterwards
[17:42] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/975336
[17:42] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 975336 in k3b (Ubuntu) "k3b refuses to erase or overwrite a blu-ray rewritable" [Undecided,New]
[17:50] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/975342
[17:50] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 975342 in k3b (Ubuntu) "k3b does not recognise a valid blu-ray ISO" [Undecided,New]
[17:50] <ali1234> wow 8 bugs in under 10 minutes
[17:51] <ali1234> er, 6
[18:01] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Drawing a Wooden Cabinet in a GTK Application - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/04/06/drawing-a-wooden-cabinet-in-a-gtk-application/
[18:55] <Lukan27> Hello. I need critical help on Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop. Anyone?
[18:55] <Azelphur> ?ask | Lukan27
[18:55] <Azelphur> !ask | Lukan27
[18:55] <lubotu3`> Lukan27: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:55] <Azelphur> hehe
[18:58] <Lukan27> Okay.. I was on my laptop on Skype (texting), playing some music and updating. Went out to make a cup of coffee, and suddenly BAM, black screen with underscore in top-left corner. Hard reset, and now it won't boot (stuck at loading animation). Error checking fails.
[19:00] <AlanBell> that sounds bad :(
[19:00] <popey> Lukan27: at the loading animation if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 do you see a text based logon screen?
[19:00] <popey> (I get this on my desktop sometimes)
[19:01] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Pope] Fun things to do at Easter  Unity Testing - http://popey.com/blog/2012/04/06/fun-things-to-do-at-easter-unity-testing/
[19:01] <popey> \o/
[19:03] <Lukan27> @popey: Nope, it clears the screen from letter etc.
[19:03] <popey> its completely blank?
[19:06] <Lukan27> @popey: Yes, completely black/purple screen.
[19:09] <Lukan27> BTW, I'm fine with a complete reinstall, I just need some of the data on the disk to be saved. I got a Live USB and can boot it, but I don't know how to get permission to my harddisk/home folder.
[19:15] <popey> Lukan27: to be honest you're better off asking in #ubuntu
[19:15] <Lukan27> popey: Ok, how do I change channel?
[19:15] <Lukan27> Oh, nvm ;)
[19:15] <brobostigon> ohdear, i put pink floyd live, on, and my dad closes the door, :'(
[20:28] <ali1234> brobostigon: isn't that the wrong way around?
[20:29] <ali1234> unless you're like 60
[20:29] <brobostigon> ali1234: agreed, should be. but wasnt.
[20:30] <directhex> remember when you were young
[20:30] <directhex> banaNAAAAAnana
[20:30] <directhex> you shone like the sun
[20:30]  * brobostigon still loves shine on.
[20:30] <directhex> shiiiiiiiiiiiine ooooooooon you craaaaaaaaaaaazy (you crazy) diaaamond
[20:30] <directhex> ba na NAAAAAA na na na
[20:31] <brobostigon> i am in a way, the diamond that was once great, and withered. similerly to that song.
[20:32]  * dwatkins wonders how many Pulse album boxes are still blinking
[20:33] <ali1234> i could never get into that whole genre of music
[20:33] <ali1234> i don't like the who either
[20:33] <dwatkins> I was never paricularly into Floyd, although I liked some of their stuff
[20:33] <dwatkins> The Who make amusing songs for CSI ;)
[20:33] <ali1234> yes.
[20:34] <ali1234> or rather YEEEEAAAAAh
[20:34] <dwatkins> or maybe, CSI was made for them... *dons glasses* YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
[20:34] <brobostigon> i like the philosophy of their music, rather than direcrtly the music.
[20:38] <dwatkins> curry time :D
[20:49] <directhex> i love Wish You Were Here
[21:00] <gordonjcp> is there an easy way to get apt to simply not install a dependency?
[21:01] <gordonjcp> I notice that the Ubuntu jackd packages are somewhat broken, in that they force installation of the whole 2TB of Qt
[21:01] <gordonjcp> since for some ungodly reason they require qjackctl
[21:01] <ali1234> install wanted deps manually then use dpkg to install the one package ignoring deps
[21:01] <Azelphur> gordonjcp: lemme know if you find out, I have an app that requires wine1.2 -.-
[21:02] <ali1234> or fork the package and edit debian/control
[21:10] <kvarley1> How can I install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi in oneiric? I'm trying via apt-get but it says it has no candidate.
[21:13] <ali1234> i did a fresh reinstall and updated it this morning and i still don't see skype in the dash or software center
[21:13] <ali1234> also, this morning = 4pm
[21:41] <bigcalm> 6 new updates since I last updated 2 hours ago
[21:42] <bigcalm> Oh, and another 3 just now
[21:42] <bigcalm> I guess somebody doesn't have the day off
[21:44] <Laney> the US
[22:26] <penguin42> the easter bunny
[22:43] <bigcalm> Where?
[23:07] <BigRedS> join #ubuntu-server
[23:08] <BigRedS> oop