[00:00] <alteregod> whats the barf index?
[00:04] <bastidrazor> alteregod: that is odd considering it was Picard that had to figure that puzzle out by himself.
[00:05] <broke_mbr> i broke the mbr, but i fixed it with lilo. now the computer starts in win7. how do i restore the menu to make it go in ubuntu rather than win7 upon boot?
[00:05] <alteregod> imagine, some linux developers act and think like darmok, and the users are picard
[00:05] <broke_mbr> at tanagra
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> broke_mbr: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/   use that and you can use grub
[00:07] <anadon> Hello!  I need some help getting my system to boot.  /boot got formatted, so kernel images and grub are gone.
[00:07] <broke_mbr> ActionParsnip: thanx
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> anadon: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/  you can also reinstall the kernel packages
[00:07] <alteregod> do i have to boot ubuntu, i didnt rebooted it for like 6 months now?
[00:10] <ejv> broke_mbr / alteregod : when the walls fell.
[00:11] <alteregod> initramfs or something
[00:16] <Luigi2012SM64DS> I need some help please
[00:16] <zF> hi
[00:17] <zF> what is /media/Desktop/ for
[00:17] <zF> and why do I have a file there
[00:17] <Luigi2012SM64DS> @zF thats your desktop!
[00:17] <z1lla> lol
[00:17] <ejv> don't you mean /home/<user>/Desktop ?
[00:17] <zF> no
[00:18] <zF> I know about user Desktops
[00:18] <ejv> having the path under /media is just plain weird.
[00:18] <zF> I have more files than just what /media/Desktop is ls'ing
[00:18] <zF> on my Deskto
[00:18] <zF> p
[00:18] <zF> and when I try to delete this file
[00:18] <zF> even as root
[00:18] <FloodBot1> zF: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <anadon> ActionParsnip: I have no issue getting grub alive.  It gets rediculously complex installing linux and getting grub right.
[00:18] <z1lla> .
[00:18] <zF> it does not allow me
[00:18] <z1lla> ,/media should also contain your cdrom/usb/etc
[00:19] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Please can someone help?
[00:19] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Sound card problems
[00:19] <ejv> !patience | Luigi2012SM64DS
[00:19] <zF> rm: cannot remove '': Read-only file system
[00:19] <zF> lol
[00:19] <zF> what
[00:19] <zF> why
[00:19] <ejv> !enter | zF
[00:19] <zF> it's just an .mp3 file
[00:20] <z1lla> o.0
[00:20] <zF> !flooding | ejv
[00:20] <z1lla> command list for bot =
[00:20] <Squarism> GAHH.. wtf is up with (my?) ubuntu desktop... freezes up on me and "top" doesnt really explain why. Is there some damn program that will let me know wtf is going on?
[00:21] <z1lla> freezes up when? and what type of freeze? o.o
[00:21] <ejv> it's a matter of courtesy; if you need more information on the bot, please private message it.
[00:21] <phil_fl> Squarism, they are several tools that can help you Sar is one but quite verbose, htop might gave you more information than top
[00:21] <bobweaver> Hello to all. I was wondering If anyone knew where to get the source code for ubuntu sever installer script mainly the dialog part. Thanks :)
[00:22] <Squarism> and WHY isnt the sum of values in "top" CPU column != 100 - top idle value?!?
[00:22] <jpds> bobweaver: apt-get source debian-installer
[00:22] <bobweaver> jpds,  Thanks !!
[00:22] <Luigi2012SM64DS> well i have to leave now
[00:23] <guest-xJ2k83> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:23] <ejv> not sure what compells people to announce their departure. very odd.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Squarism: With 4 cores the maximum CPU usage is "400%".
[00:24] <Squarism> jordan oh ok.. that explains it
[00:24] <Squarism> jordan, or.. that sum thiing issue atleast
[00:24] <ejv> correct me if I'm wrong; but the cpu score is a weighted average of cpu usage over a period of $time; it may not add up to 100
[00:26] <phil_fl> Squarism, to find out the most offender : ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10
[00:27] <mentoc> After installing grsecurity and recompiling my kernel, my wifi device is no longer present. Any suggestions?
[00:27] <bekks> Uninstall grsec
[00:27] <anadon> ActionParsnip: I have no issue getting grub alive.  It gets rediculously complex installing linux and getting grub right.
[00:27] <anadon> Hello!  I need some help getting my system to boot.  /boot got formatted, so kernel images and grub are gone.
[00:28] <bekks> anadon: You are now lost without your backup
[00:28] <mentoc> bekks: grsec is crucial to this install
[00:28] <bekks> LOL
[00:28] <bekks> grsec but using wifi.
[00:28] <mentoc> bekks: yeah i know
[00:28] <bekks> no comment
[00:29] <Squarism> phil_fl, http://pastebin.com/tf8Me3zU
[00:29] <v0lksman> hey all! rwhoisd isn't in any repo which leads me to believe there is an ubuntu alternative...any idea what it is?
[00:29] <Squarism> phil_fl, thanx man.. i downloaded sar.. its a sort of instrumentation right? You need to turn it on right
[00:30] <ejv> < bekks> Uninstall grsec <- genius. ha
[00:30] <phil_fl> Squarism, there is a daemon and everything it is super verbose might be overkilling too
[00:31] <Squarism> phil_fl, i need all the help i can get.. cus my ubuntu is feeling like OS/2 on a 386 sometimes
[00:31] <Jordan_U> anadon: Boot from a LiveCD/USB, chroot in, run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-foo" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX".
[00:31] <mentoc> Is it possible to copy a driver from one kernel to another?
[00:33] <anadon> Jordan_U: no go.  Grub didn't install to /boot and linux just installed itself in the RAM FS and not the actual disk.
[00:34] <Jordan_U> anadon: What error message did you see from grub, and did you chroot in first as I said to?
[00:37] <anadon> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/916802/
[00:38] <Jordan_U> anadon: You didn't chroot in.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> anadon: If you don't understand part of an answer, *ask*. Just ignoring things that you don't understand is never a good policy.
[00:38] <anadon> Jordan_U: Sorry.  Been lacking sleep.
[00:38] <Tasmania> How can I locally login to my (VirtualBox) Ubuntu terminal with putty while I'm running on Windows?
[00:40] <zF> hello
[00:40] <zF> how come disk usage analizer says I have 24 GB free space
[00:41] <zF> and df reports I have 500MB
[00:41] <bekks> df -i vs. df -u
[00:41] <Jordan_U> anadon: Unless you had a compelling reason to use a separate /boot/ partition (like a buggy BIOS) I would just go without one from now on, keeping /boot/ as a simple directory on your root partition. This guide explains how to properly chroot and re-install grub. Simply add the "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-foo" command (which needs to be run while you're still in the chroot shell). The "foo" in linux-foo should be the latest available ...
[00:41] <bekks> df -i vs. df -h :)
[00:41] <Jordan_U> ... version of the linux kernel. The package "linux" is simply a meta-pacakge, so if you already have the latest kernel installed it won't install a newer linux-image and thus no kernel image will be added to /boot/.
[00:41] <seroki> can you try df -h
[00:42] <Jordan_U> anadon: Sorry, this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot :)
[00:42] <zF> bekks: what is df -i?
[00:42] <bekks> zF: "man df"
[00:42] <anadon> Jordan_U: I have one hell of a buggy BIOS.  Also, I usually have 2+ operating systems, so seperate /boot is the way I need to go.
[00:43] <zF> bekks: so you're saying Total filesystem capacity: in Disk Usage analyzer is not correct and df -h is correct
[00:43] <BarkingFish> Good morning :)  I know it's late, (at least for me) but I need some help.  Do you know if it is possible to get or set up an IME to type into (k)ubuntu in Canadian Syllabics (Inuit/Inuktitut)?
[00:43] <zF> which is correct
[00:43] <bekks> zF: No
[00:43] <xezekal> I am having a problem with the audio
[00:43] <BarkingFish> or better yet, whether I can localize in Inuktitut?
[00:43] <bekks> zF: It told you to look at two distinct values - nothing more, nothing less.
[00:44] <ryanyeah> so.. trying to install dropbox and it's supposed to create a .dropbox-dist folder, but i can't find where it is? install line looks like this: cd ~ && wget -O - "SOURCE URL" | tar xzf -
[00:44] <xezekal> i tried to fix it via debconf but that was not the problem
[00:44] <n0sq> how can i get a 64 bit version of adobe for 64 bit ubuntu 11.10?
[00:44] <zF> bekks: well what is Disk Usage Analyzer reporting then?
[00:44] <zF> 24GB of what?
[00:44] <xezekal> Dudes i am having a problem with the audio
[00:45] <Tasmania> Has anyone here ever used Virtual box?
[00:45] <bekks> Tasmania: Yes.
[00:45] <xezekal> I would try to enable alsa/oss via rc.dbut that does not work for ubuntu.......
[00:46] <xezekal> d
[00:46] <xezekal> rc.d but
[00:46] <Malsasa> Hello, I am back. I have deleted my /home/user/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/*, but I don;t have my unity fixed. I have reset mu unity and set COmpiz to default, but nothing happen. I still can;t login to my account in Ubuntu 11.10. Everytime I enter password, I always jumped to login screen again. How to fix this?
[00:47] <xezekal> No clue
[00:47] <xezekal> Trying to get help with audio.........
[00:48] <xezekal> The video plays but there is no audio
[00:48] <dsadsa> Hi. Why do I have to use  ubuntu?
[00:48] <xezekal> dsadsa you don't have to use ubuntu
[00:48] <[deXter]> dsadsa, You don't have to. No one is forcing you to. If someone is, report them to the authorities!
[00:49] <xezekal> I need help with audio
[00:49] <xezekal> ...
[00:49] <xezekal> the PulseAudio is to the max, debconfed audio
[00:49] <dsadsa> Lol I'll do it
[00:49] <itaylor57> xezekal, type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp in termial do you hear anyting
[00:50] <anadon> Jordan_U: Failed.  Here's the output.  It's similar to what I've run into before.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/916810/
[00:51] <xezekal> itaylor57 bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[00:51] <dsadsa> xezekal, [deXter] my work boss is forcing me (and the other guys) because it'll be put on office pcs... what should I do?! :S
[00:52] <dsadsa> I don't like it! it's so rude
[00:52] <itaylor57> did you type "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"  without the quotes?
[00:52] <xezekal> yes
[00:52] <itaylor57> hmm
[00:52] <xezekal> i have used linux for a year i know how it works
[00:53] <xezekal> /dev/dsp permission denied
[00:53] <[deXter]> dsadsa, Well if it's at work then you don't really have a choice.. it's hard to get a good job these days. :/
[00:53] <xezekal> Then use ubuntu
[00:53] <Jordan_U> anadon: You didn't follow the directions on the page that I linked to. Why?
[00:53] <xezekal> You can do whatever you want via synaptic
[00:54] <xezekal> Including well....  Using openbox and making everybody think you're so 1337
[00:54] <Jordan_U> anadon: Also, are you booting via BIOS or [U]EFI?
[00:54] <xezekal> of course you need to edit openbox first
[00:54] <dsadsa> lol
[00:55] <[deXter]> dsadsa, Just know that you can choose an interface that you're comfortable with.. so if you want a windows-like desktop interface then you can have it. (A lot of newbies I've seen dislike the new defautl UI)
[00:55] <xezekal> fun, fun, fun
[00:55] <BarkingFish> Anyone got any thoughts on my problem please?  It's kinda urgent that I get this sorted if possible, I know I'm not on Ubuntu but something's gotta work here :)  I need to be able to type in the same script used for Inuit languages. Is there an IME or do I need to do weird stuff here?
[00:55] <Tasmania> xezkal, mind a pm?
[00:55] <xezekal> i'm okay with that
[00:55] <BarkingFish> i'll even install ubuntu's base to get something, as long as it works :)
[00:56] <dsadsa> ok. anyway I appreciate the moral principles that are behind this change
[00:57] <dsadsa> open source...
[00:57] <con-man> shite
[00:57] <con-man> what'
[00:57] <con-man> what's the command to run to play dvds
[00:57] <con-man> its a console command i think
[00:57] <con-man> after a fresh install of ubuntu
[00:57] <anadon> Jordan_U: UEFI kinda...again, weird BIOS
[00:57] <con-man> you have to run something in a terminal
[00:58] <[deXter]> con-man, just get VLC player you don't need any fancy commands
[00:58] <con-man> for dvd encryption
[00:58] <con-man> uhhh it doesnt work either
[00:58] <[deXter]> Did you do an update after installing?
[00:58] <con-man> yes
[00:58] <[deXter]> Because the update should automatically get the codecs
[00:59] <[deXter]> You probably have to enable the universe or some other repository though
[00:59] <[deXter]> from the software sources
[00:59] <con-man> ill have a look
[00:59] <con-man> last time it was just a terminal command i had to run
[00:59] <[deXter]> con-man, also,  try this command:      sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:59] <Jordan_U> anadon: What do you mean by "UEFI kinda"? If it has a BIOS implementation I would recommend using it rather than UEFI.
[01:00] <xezekal> itaylor57 do you have a fix?
[01:00] <con-man> k. enabled some other repos gotta wait for the refresh to finish and close the package manager
[01:00] <con-man> or apt wont work
[01:00] <anadon> Jordan_U: it can 'choose' one or another but it is poorly implemented.
[01:03] <con-man> [deXter], I had to run this "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[01:03] <con-man> that was the command
[01:03] <con-man> found it on the ubuntu help site
[01:04] <Jordan_U> anadon: I recommend choosing the BIOS interface then.
[01:04] <anadon> Jordan_U: Ok, looks like it is working.  I'll pass this on to YannUbuntu for boot-repair.  Thanks!
[01:04] <Jordan_U> anadon: You're welcome.
[01:07] <moes> Which is the new Java to be used with Ubuntu-10.04 and Firefox-11.0...Firefox now crashes with the old Java
[01:20] <xezekal> dah audio?
[01:22] <XGaryG> I have thunderbird installed, also lightning. Exactly what else to I need to add to access my Google calendar and contacts?
[01:23] <vadi2> What is a pain-free way to get Java 1.7 on Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:23] <Squarism> what is most wrong with my setup ubuntu 1: 11.10, 2:64bit version, 3: running a crypted home, 4: Using swap memory, 5: Only having 4gigs of ram? Fakking ubuntu freezes up on me like a damn windows 3.11
[01:24] <Squarism> ...ubuntu setup.. even
[01:24] <vadi2> Squarism: I had the same thing, only happens when you run out of ram though
[01:24] <vadi2> Then it just _dies_ swapping
[01:24] <Squarism> vadi2, sounds like my machine
[01:24] <vadi2> Yeah just be careful about browser/VMs, maybe get an indicator that shows your ram use
[01:24] <vadi2> I used SysPeek
[01:24] <vadi2> Now I have an SSD, no problems :)
[01:25] <rybarczyk> Squarism: 1GB used to be fine for most uses without swap.
[01:25] <rybarczyk> on 12.04beta. It trashes to death
[01:25] <vadi2> I think it's the encrypted home that's being a problem, because it has to encrypt (use CPU) while waiting on IO too
[01:25] <Squarism> rybarczyk, yeah... i thought ubuntu wasnt that memory hungry
[01:25] <vadi2> Ubuntu isn't, what apps you run on it are though
[01:25] <JerrySpringer> hi guys
[01:26] <JerrySpringer> I need to make a confession
[01:26] <rybarczyk> it wasnt. now it is!
[01:26] <JerrySpringer> okay, this is hard
[01:26] <XGaryG> There are like a hundred Google plug-ins. Which do I need to have Thunderbird calendar sync with Google?
[01:26] <Squarism> i do run alot of java app though.. that eat loads of mem
[01:26] <JerrySpringer> I was born a man and I like windows more than linux
[01:26] <vadi2> Squarism: Yeah that'
[01:26] <vadi2> *'d be it
[01:27] <Squarism> vadi2, did you disable your crypted home?
[01:27] <vadi2> No, but I think that'd help your issue. I had a laptop before so there was no way I'd let it be unencrypted
[01:28] <rybarczyk> squarish. I think the problem is the kernel used in 12.04 (or 11.10)
[01:28] <vadi2> You can test it with a LiveUSB though
[01:28] <Squarism> vadi2, i need to hear a story about "lost laptop, all CODE stolen"
[01:28] <vadi2> Squarism: Yeah, that's why I had it encrypted :)
[01:28] <Squarism> vadi2, i mean... needs a very special theif to capitalize on stolen code
[01:29] <vadi2> It can happen. I work in the Health industry, and there have been too many leaks of personal patient data because of stolen laptops :)
[01:29] <Squarism> even if he is very special... id be suprised if someone pulls such stuff off...
[01:29] <Squarism> oh ok
[01:30] <vadi2> But try and see if not encrypting works it out for you. I just dealt with it and closed apps and such
[01:30] <vadi2> Chrome every once in a while is good to restart because it just keeps eating ram
[01:30] <alket> Is it possible to install a new version of ubuntu from old one without cd/usb/upgrading ?
[01:31] <vadi2> Upgrade without upgrading?
[01:32] <moes> What is the new Java to be used with Ubuntu-10.04 and Firefox-11.0...Firefox now crashes with the old Java
[01:33] <alket> vadi2, fresh install
[01:33] <vadi2> You do need some sort of a medium, unless you're using wubi
[01:33] <alket> vadi2, so there is no vay
[01:33] <kingkatari> How do i change a dir with the . infront of the name like .namecoin to just namecoin
[01:34] <alket> kingkatari, mv .namecoin namecoin
[01:34] <vadi2> kingkatari: select it and rename. do you see it?
[01:34] <vadi2> alket: might be a complicated way, but this isn't a common thing to do, so no easy way
[01:34] <Lax> Does anyone have experiences with Ubuntu has a guest in VirtualBox getting USB to work?  Im running 11.10 trying to get ADB to talk to my phone but 'lsusb' never sees it...
[01:34] <vadi2> Lax: have you installed the extensions?
[01:35] <vadi2> Lax: you need the Oracle blah blah for USB support
[01:35] <Lax> vadi2: Yes, I have installed the extention pack and enabled the USB in the guest
[01:35] <kingkatari> Got it thanks
[01:35] <alket> vadi2, this guy claims to do so but not working for me http://ubuntuguide.net/install-fresh-ubuntu-10-04-on-ubuntu-9-10-only-machine-without-burning-cd
[01:36] <vadi2> Lax: enabled USB as in the whole filter business?
[01:36] <vadi2> alket: hm well, I've never done it, so no clue
[01:37] <Lax> vadi2: Yes, that is correct.  When the 11.10 guest comes online the windows host loses the USB devices and VirtualBox shows it as an option, but running 'lsusb' as root doesnt list it
[01:37] <vadi2> Lax: you have to specify which USB devices virtualbox 'captures' for the guest, if you haven't done so
[01:37] <vadi2> Hm ok. Android?
[01:37] <vadi2> I think some people had to do some udev trick for lsusb to see it.
[01:38] <vadi2> Lax: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html see step 3
[01:39] <vadi2> Some blogs describe easier steps than that. I haven't had to do that myself, but apparently it's common.
[01:39] <Fyodorovna> alket, 9.10 is end of life you have to use its upgrade method. Note the date of your link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:39] <alket> Fyodorovna, I actually have 10.04 and want to do 11.10
[01:40] <Lax> vadi2: I think my issue occurs before Android comes into the picture, I should see the devices listed as a USB device even before I try to connect via ADB.
[01:41] <Fyodorovna> alket, you know 12.-04 is released this moth I assume.
[01:41] <vadi2> Lax: Yes, udev - it's not catching it.
[01:41] <alket> I don't use the new releases without being at leats 1 year old
[01:41] <vadi2> Lax: that's why you might need to make a udev rule for it.
[01:41] <Logan_> Fyodorovna: It will be released on the 26th.
[01:42] <Lax> vadi2: the rules file just needs to be read only?  Ive seen both where its permissions are read only, and ive seen it where it +rx
[01:43] <vadi2> I'm not certain, because I didn't have to fiddle with it (just worked for me). Try either.
[01:44] <general_SOUP> hey room
[01:44] <XGaryG> I have the correct addons installed to thunderbird for Google. Where do I find the right address to put for the Google calendar?
[01:44] <vadi2> What is a pain-free way to get Java 1.7 on Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:45] <general_SOUP> wifi issues on laptop
[01:46] <general_SOUP> wifi drivers are not working maybe?
[01:46] <XGaryG> When I try to add my Google Calendar, it wants a location. Where do I get this?
[01:46] <J11> I currenlty have my ext3 home partition stuck in a win7 computer which I use as NAS. Can I mount the home partition at boot through SMB?
[01:47] <general_SOUP> i have tried a few  things nothing seems to be panning out
[01:49] <Lax> vadi2: Are you rules 51-android.rules?  or do you have a different number XX-android.rules?
[01:50] <vadi2> I don't have those rules, the only ones I got are:
[01:50] <vadi2> $ ls /etc/udev/rules.d
[01:50] <vadi2> 10-vboxdrv.rules  70-persistent-cd.rules  70-persistent-net.rules  README
[01:51] <Lax> vadi2: Hmm, yeah I have read they are sort of unnecessary but I still cant get a connection....   heh.
[01:51] <vadi2> Yeah I'm using Ubuntu natively here
[01:52] <Lax> I want to go back to that.  I installed win7 so I could play SWTOR.
[01:52] <Lax> so now I need a VM to do dev work  lol
[01:53] <vadi2> Ah yeah, just use CX11 here for windows games
[01:55] <Lax> when you connect via ADB, do you only have USB debugging turned on, or on the phone do you turn on USB storage too?
[01:55] <vadi2> Oh yeah, you need it on USB storage. Not the MTP mode.
[01:59] <preludelinux> hello
[02:00] <Persona24> I have a question; how many people are actually use the terminal to use IRC's?
[02:00] <mneptok> Persona24: please do not conduct polls
[02:02] <Persona24> mneptok: I'm just wondering. For the longest time I thought a person had to use the terminal to access IRC
[02:02] <dsadsa> Persona24: very very little people
[02:02] <Dj_FlyBy> trying to find out how to share folders so that anyone with "local" access can freely access the shares "without" a user account. Any information on how to do this please?
[02:02] <preludelinux> im having tons of issues with ubuntu 12.04 ~
[02:03] <vadi2> Lax: worked it out with USB storage?
[02:03] <Logan_> dsadsa: So dwarves are the only people who use Terminal to access IRC? ;-P
[02:03] <Lax> vadi2: No, but I checked dmesg and see to things:  1) usb 2-2: new full speed USB device number 3 using ohci_hcd 2) hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 So Im trying to research those
[02:03] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: you want people to be able to sit at this machine itself, access files, and not have an account that they use? not possible. you have to login to a session as *someone*
[02:03] <dsadsa> XD
[02:04] <vadi2> Alright
[02:04] <Logan_> preludelinux: Please join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support.
[02:04] <dsadsa> yeah Logan_ I meant something like that
[02:05] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: I'm talking about "local network" access; sorry I should have been more specific
[02:05] <dsadsa> PS: what problems do you have with dwarves?! >:/
[02:05] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: samba, nfs, ftp ....
[02:06] <Dj_FlyBy> yes I know that.... I want to know how to allow access without a user/pass ....  the check box to make this happen is "greyed out"
[02:07] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: check box where?
[02:07] <Dj_FlyBy> when I right click on the folder and select sharing options
[02:07] <Logan_> dsadsa: Hehe.
[02:07] <myr> anyone know how to get the wicd tray to start automatically? (using e17)
[02:10] <myr> perhaps not the best time to ask
[02:10] <skel> I don't use e17, sorry =/
[02:12] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: when I right click on the folder and select "sharing options" the check box for 'guest access' is greyed out so I can't select it
[02:12] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: do you have samba installed?
[02:12] <z1lla> i like how everyone ask's for questions in here, and usually get's answers
[02:12] <skel> Isn't that how ubuntu does it's folder sharing?
[02:12] <z1lla> kudos
[02:13] <Dj_FlyBy> skel: yes
[02:13] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: so, authorized users can access the share, you just don't have guest r/o access?
[02:13] <Dj_FlyBy> skel: right
[02:14] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: whats your smb.conf look like? does it have a guest ok = yes section?
[02:14] <grillermo> is there anyway to clear a specific message(from the messages framework) in a view before it gets passed to the template?
[02:14] <grillermo> sorry wrong room
[02:15] <Dj_FlyBy> skel: unsure... where do I locate this smb.conf
[02:15] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: this might be a rat-hole to go down, I'm not sure if Ubuntu even uses samba in the traditional way, but traditionally it's in /etc/samba/smb.conf I think
[02:16] <avoider> Hey is there away to install desktop for server on ubuntu?
[02:16] <skel> avoider: yeah, just install the window manager meta-package you want to use
[02:16] <xangua> avoider: you can install any desktop enviroment you want
[02:16] <skel> avoider: it should just pull in all the deps like X11 etc
[02:16] <avoider> how please?
[02:17] <skel> avoider: what window system do you want to use?
[02:17] <avoider> Just a desktop
[02:17] <skel> avoider: gnome, unity, fluxbox  etc..
[02:17] <avoider> im on the server right now
[02:17] <avoider> but its command line
[02:17] <myr> avoider, try the package ubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <hydrozen> hi there. just wondering, when you share a folder by right-clicking on it on ubuntu, where does it add the configuration for that share? I'm looking into /etc/samba/smb.conf yet I don't see the share (yet it works)
[02:17] <avoider> i want server to
[02:17] <avoider> tho
[02:17] <Dj_FlyBy> skel: there is no 'guest' entry in the file
[02:18] <skel> hydrozen: hah we were just talking about that.. I'm not certain where the UI stores that config
[02:18] <myr> avoider, install ubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu server
[02:18] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: ok I'm not certain thats where the config is stored.. hang on
[02:18] <hydrozen> skel: hehe weird
[02:18] <avoider> yeah how i do that for gnome?
[02:18] <Dj_FlyBy> skel:  guest = yes   ?
[02:18] <avoider> its there a easy command?
[02:18] <Dj_FlyBy> skel: it's there, I found it
[02:18] <hydrozen> skel: i tried to search my files to find that path somewhere… no luck
[02:18] <skel> Does anyone know where the file sharing settings get saved when you do things through filesharing wizard in the desktop UI ?
[02:18] <myr> avoider, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <avoider> ty so much sir
[02:19] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: yeah it should be guest ok or guest = yes for the defined share
[02:19] <skel> Dj_FlyBy: and then just sudo service samba restart
[02:19] <l3d> if i have a laptop with a app on it i would like to install on my desktop but am able to no longer find it anywhere on the outside, is there a way to grab the .deb and it depend    and install it to the other pc?
[02:24] <ryan__> Hello.  Anyone willing to help a newb with some HDMI audio issues?
[02:24] <skel> l3d: I'm looking around to see if there's a export util you can use
[02:25] <l3d> ok ty
[02:27] <preludelinux> hdmi audio issues , do you have it working at all ?
[02:28] <stuntman_dan> anyone able to help me undo the destruction I have made by using the compiz config settings program?
[02:28] <myr> stuntman_dan, can you load a default profile?
[02:28] <hydrozen> skel: /var/lib/samba/usershares/
[02:28] <stuntman_dan> is there an easy or straightforward way to do it?
[02:28] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html stuntman_dan
[02:29] <myr> stuntman_dan, you can do so in the settings manager. forgive me; i don't have it installed
[02:29] <Logan_> stuntman_dan: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[02:29] <stuntman_dan> xangua my unity is fine, it's gnome that is the slight issue
[02:29] <Logan_> stuntman_dan: and then: unity --reset
[02:29] <stuntman_dan> well myr part of the problem is the settings manager window is halfway off of the screen, and without a title bar I can't move the window back down to where I can undo the changes I've made =\
[02:30] <stuntman_dan> logan_ would I be able to do the same thing for gnome?
[02:30] <myr> stuntman_dan, hold the alt key and grab the window anywhere to drag it?
[02:30] <Logan_> Not sure.
[02:30] <skel> hydrozen: is that where the configs are saved?
[02:30] <stuntman_dan> myr thanks I'll give that a shot, I'll be back in a few
[02:30] <stuntman_dan> I'm logged in using unity for now as it's the only one that's useable haha
[02:31] <skel> l3d: I can't find anything that doesn't use the online package repo. So if that doesn't exist anymore, I'm not sure what to tell you besides maybe just try and copy the binary over
[02:31] <hydrozen> skel: yep, seem like it. I've got one file in there for my share. Bad news is, it's not a samba config file.
[02:31] <skel> hydrozen: hmm ok
[02:32] <skel> l3d: but you can use ldd to figure out all the libs that program needs
[02:32] <skel> l3d: so you know what needs to be installed on the other system
[02:32] <AMIGAS> what are the controls for uzbl browser?
[02:32] <skel> l3d: example: ldd /usr/bin/vi
[02:32] <hydrozen> skel: it's nautilus-share that does something with that file and then adds the share to samba or something
[02:32] <skel> hydrozen: oh I bet it's in like .gconf or something
[02:33] <dv310p3r> Is there a way to get rid of or hide and reclaim the space taken up by the top panel in Unity. I want to get rid of it and the left panel and just use AWN
[02:33] <skel> hydrozen: some local dot dir in your home
[02:33] <hydrozen> skel: no no… i've got one share called data and so the config is in /var/lib/samba/usershares/data
[02:34] <hydrozen> skel: but the configuration format is something custom to nautilus-share
[02:34] <skel> hydrozen: ah ok
[02:36] <rodayo> I had my laptop stolen today at school. I had some personal files protected with root access...i'm just wondering is there anyway the culprit can still get into my personal stuff?
[02:36] <clever> i'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, but do-release-upgrade just errors out, E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
[02:36] <rodayo> non-encrypted home folder btw
[02:36] <skel> rodayo: yes, pretty easily
[02:36] <rodayo> skel, how?
[02:36] <clever> rodayo: simplest way, boot a livecd and mount the drive
[02:36] <skel> rodayo: all they have to do is boot from a live-cd and mount your root dir, chroot it and run passwd, or just directly access the files from the livecd
[02:37] <clever> yep
[02:37] <bk> mhmm
[02:37] <stuntman_dan> soooo...
[02:37] <rodayo> fuck...
[02:37] <bk> lol
[02:37] <stuntman_dan> I typed the command while I was in unity
[02:37] <stuntman_dan> and now my unity is messed up
[02:37] <stuntman_dan> but gnome is back to normal!
[02:37] <stuntman_dan> soo... good enough? hahaha
[02:37] <FloodBot1> stuntman_dan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <rodayo> what if my home folder was encrypted?
[02:37] <bk> rodayo: lots of savvy users at school?
[02:38] <skel> rodayo: then you'd be better off
[02:38] <rodayo> bk, this happened in the computing lab...but who knows
[02:38] <clever> rodayo: then it would depend on if you are required to enter the encryption into at startup
[02:38] <skel> clever: most of the time if you're using the built-in ubuntu stuff in does the crypto-loop thing after he signs in to light-dm
[02:39] <rodayo> so i guess the best thing to do in the future is directly encrypt anything you dont' want stolen?
[02:39] <skel> rodayo: yup
[02:39] <clever> skel: do you know how i would upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?
[02:40] <stuntman_dan> ok back to normal! I just logged out of unity and logged back in, now both gnome and unity are back to the way they should be. thanks guys.
[02:40] <bk> rodayo: that and dont loose the laptop
[02:40] <bk> :P
[02:40] <skel> clever: um hm. are the 11.04 repo's still around?
[02:40] <clever> skel: looks like they are, i didnt even notice i was running 11.04
[02:40] <skel> rodayo: you're probably ok if you're using the homedir encryption option
[02:41] <stuntman_dan> one other quick question... how do I remove icons that I've placed on the bottom bar of gnome? If I right click them my only options are launch or properties, and if I try to drag it off the bar onto the desktop it just makes a copy
[02:41] <magicJ> if I want sshd to listen on more than one port in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to i have multiple Port lines or one Port line with multiple entries
[02:41] <bk> rodayo: sorry to hear that happened to you though, sucks
[02:41] <skel> clever: does this work? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[02:42] <clever> skel: tried that, do-release-upgrade just gives an error and restores the system config
[02:42] <rodayo> bk, thanks =)
[02:42] <jrib> magicJ: multiple lines works
[02:42] <skel> clever: hmm ok, anything useful in the error?
[02:42] <magicJ> jrib:  ty
[02:42] <clever> skel: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[02:43] <LucidGuy> Is is a bad idea to use a lv for swap?
[02:43] <bk> hmm
[02:43] <clever> LucidGuy: half my swap partitions are on lvm
[02:43] <bk> eww lvm
[02:44] <skel> clever: I'm super lazy, which is why I always custom partition and make /home a seperate part. that way when this kind of stuff happens I just re-install fresh or install fresh and don't format my /home part
[02:44] <clever> skel: its a VPS server i'm renting, dont have that kind of control over it
[02:44] <LucidGuy> clever, loading a new box.. going to be purely lvm no legacy partitions.
[02:44] <skel> clever: by any chance do you have a separate partition for /home?  or do you also have a bunch of stuff needed in like /var etc
[02:44] <skel> clever: ahh ok
[02:45] <clever> skel: somehow, the second VPS i purchased wound up with an older version of ubuntu then the first
[02:45] <clever> they must not be keeping the source images in sync
[02:46] <skel> clever: hm. yeah just doing some googling. no ideas off the top if the standard processes didn't work
[02:46] <clever> skel: i think the old method is to just change the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:46] <clever> but ive had to fix some breakage with that before with past upgrades
[02:47] <skel> clever: yeah, change sources, update, and then some prepare command I thought and then dist-upgrade
[02:47] <demonboy> typing that #sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer returns this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916897/
[02:47] <skel> clever: you've probably got a better handle on it then I do :-P
[02:48] <skel> I run my primary desktop as a virtualized guest os
[02:48] <skel> on top of libvirtd so I can always just virsh snapshot-revert
[02:49] <Agent_bob> what is the device for built in camera ?
[02:49] <geekwani> problem in guide to install jdk6 on ubuntu
[02:49] <geekwani> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:50] <geekwani> in the instructions
[02:50] <demonboy> geekwani is tht addressed to me
[02:50] <geekwani> to install jdk6
[02:50] <clever> skel: dist-upgrade gives the same error, but with more info this time
[02:50] <demonboy> cause i am trying to install jre 7
[02:50] <clever>  base-files : Breaks: initscripts (< 2.88dsf-13.3) but 2.87dsf-4ubuntu23.1 is to be installed
[02:50] <geekwani> mv jdk1.6.0_31 /usr/lib/jvm/            should be           mv jdk1.6.0_31 /usr/lib/jvm
[02:50] <geekwani> just giving feedback
[02:50] <geekwani> bye
[02:51] <geekwani> its open <demonboy>
[02:51] <geekwani> ok
[02:51] <geekwani> i was just giving feedback
[02:51] <skel> clever: hmm I wonder if running aptitude would clear any of that up
[02:51] <geekwani> came accross this error
[02:51] <geekwani> u need any help to install jre
[02:51] <geekwani> ?
[02:52] <Agent_bob> !enter
[02:52] <chnchapters> how do i connect to rizon?
[02:53] <clever> skel: manualy upgrading initscripts seems to have made dist-upgrade happy
[02:53] <Melon_Bread> open network list and add
[02:53] <clever> 261 upgraded, 21 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:53] <Melon_Bread> irc.rizon.net
[02:53] <skel> clever: sweet =]
[02:54] <Agent_bob> or tpe in   /server irc.rizon.net
[02:54] <Agent_bob> type
[02:54] <thetinyjesus> What do you guys feel is the overall best browser, firefox chrome or other
[02:55] <xangua> thetinyjesus: the one you like ;)
[02:55] <thetinyjesus> xangua, there really is not a one that's better
[02:56] <stuntman_dan> apparently chrome has the best security? But I've always liked firefox
[02:56] <skel> thetinyjesus: I like chrome, I used to use firefox and I know this is going to sound stupid but I stopped using it when they started advancing a major version point like every other week
[02:56] <Melon_Bread> Agent_bob's way is better
[02:57] <Melon_Bread> I use to use Firefox untill chrome was out in beta, been using it ever since
[02:57] <Agent_bob> elinks in console.    konqueror in gui
[02:57] <thetinyjesus> skel, i like chrome, but i cannot tell if its my imagination or what, but it seems firefox completely loads the website faster where chrome loads the majority faster but takes longer to completely load
[02:57] <myr> opera
[02:58] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/916576/  My computer fails to boot and I end up at (initramfs) Please help. :) Thank you.
[02:58] <skel> thetinyjesus: hm yeah I haven't really noticed either way. I do like firefox's plugin system better. Chrome still seems to lack there. I know they've got the market but it seems more geared for games and stuff
[02:59] <Agent_bob>    surfraw!  but i'm a "less is more"  kind of guy anyway.
[02:59] <gmachine_24> chromium, right?
[02:59] <skel> gmachine_24: when did this start happening
[02:59] <skel> gmachine_24: like after a update or upgrade?
[03:00] <expertmac2> From the looks of it, you're missing /sbin/init
[03:00] <gmachine_24> skel, uhmmm........... either last night or today.
[03:00] <gmachine_24> skel, no.
[03:00] <skel> gmachine_24: it looks like maybe you've got an invalid param in your grub boot option
[03:00] <skel> ^^ what expertmac2 said
[03:01] <skel> gmachine_24: do you know how to chroot a filesystem?
[03:01] <gmachine_24> so. can I fix it by using a live CD ?
[03:01] <gmachine_24> skel, never done it.
[03:01] <skel> gmachine_24: yeah potentially
[03:02] <skel> gmachine_24: maybe first boot from a livecd and mount the partition and see if init exists
[03:02] <gmachine_24> ok well lol I see where it says there is no /sbint/init
[03:02] <blnk> does anybody know how to get an "acer crystal eye" webcam to work on ubuntu? I only get a black screen
[03:03] <gmachine_24> skel, ok. what about the top line which seems to indicate ... well I don't know what it indicates.... but the /dev/disk/by-uuid/etc
[03:03] <Agent_bob> gmachine_24  uuid=34156449-2a0c-4b52-acb9-39cee03eBeb3  <<<< filesystem is not mounting.   maybe a module missing that supports the fs type   or other related problem
[03:03] <gmachine_24> what about this: Try passing init=bootarg
[03:04] <Agent_bob> there is not enough information to be sure why it's not mounting
[03:04] <stuntman_dan> how do I get rid of a launcher icon I've put on the bottom bar in gnome?
[03:04] <gmachine_24> Agent_bob, ok.
[03:04] <sacarlson> blnk: join the club my ibm webcam no longer works in the newer versions of ubuntu,  it was working back in ubuntu 8.0  and 10.04 but not no more
[03:04] <gmachine_24> Thank you all. I'll let you know what happens.
[03:05] <skel> sacarlson: 8.x? good god man
[03:05] <blnk> well thats just great lol I just upgraded all the way from 10.04 to 11.10 today
[03:05] <gmachine_24> skel, lol. just what I was thinking.
[03:05] <n0sq> how can i get a 64 bit version of adobe for 64 bit ubuntu 11.10?
[03:05] <skel> did they even HAVE webcams back then?! ;)
[03:05] <Agent_bob> gmachine_24   is that a fresh install?   or newly built initramfs.img ?
[03:06] <sacarlson> skel: ya you would think if it worked back then that it would still work today,  it's an old webcam I think I got it back in 1998
[03:06] <skel> sacarlson: yeah that sucks =/
[03:06] <skel> n0sq: you mean like flas?
[03:06] <skel> n0sq: *flash
[03:07] <sacarlson> skel: blnk: best solution I found was buy another $12 webcam that supports the new v4l2 drivers
[03:07] <gmachine_24> Agent_bob, well............ it goes like this. I used clonezilla to copy the hard drive I was using to the hard drive I'm now using with the OS on it. Yes, I should have mentioned this. Sorry. Anyway, things were working fine for a week. Then, I don't know what happened exactly but I had to restart the computer and then I got the errors.
[03:07] <blnk> I kind of dont want to buy a new one, because the one i'm trying to get to work is built into the laptop :/
[03:08] <skel> n0sq: adobe-flashplugin is the plugin name on x86_64 version I've got
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> n0sq: enable the partner repo and install the adobe-installer package
[03:08] <skel> blnk: what kernel are you running?
[03:08] <gmachine_24> Agent_bob, I think the computer crash or whatever it was might have resulted from a power surge/dip. I live in Florida and our local power company is horrible. All the surge protectors and battery back ups in the world won't protect against this company.
[03:08] <blnk> whichever one came with 11.10 lol i'm a unix noob
[03:09] <sacarlson> blnk: well since I have some experience in my attempts to get my ibm working I guess maybe we could get lucky with yours.  so pastebinit the sudo lshw | pastebinit to see what you have
[03:09] <skel> blnk: you might want to give the 12.04 beta a shot
[03:10] <blnk> i was thinking about waiting till the full release of 12.04 later this month
[03:10] <skel> blnk: does it work in the live-cd?
[03:10] <Agent_bob> gmachine_24 you can probably boot with a command line addative like    root=/dev/sda1     or /dev/sda3 or what ever partition number it is...."assuming you use a partition"  <agent_bob doesn't>
[03:11] <blnk> i haven't checked.. i believe it was working with 10.04 that i installed from the live CD
[03:11] <Agent_bob> gmachine_24  or you can boot a live cd and repair your  grub config file
[03:11] <z1lla> hello
[03:11] <gmachine_24> sacarlson, funny things can happen with old hardware. E.G. I tried to get my 11.04 laptop to view an SDHC memory disk with a SanDisk memory disk reader I've used forever. Turns out the memory disk reader is so old it doesn't read SDHC disks. I spent an hour or so trying to "fix" things before I realized.
[03:11] <z1lla> live cd's are good for repairing shit
[03:11] <z1lla> as long as you know what you did wrong
[03:11] <Agent_bob> z1lla ditto
[03:12] <Agent_bob> or can figure it out
[03:12] <gmachine_24> Agent_bob, yes, I was wondering about using the super grub2 cd which I just happened to burn today
[03:12] <Agent_bob> good call
[03:12] <blnk> i wonder if they will fix the webcams in 12.04 or sometime soon..
[03:13] <myr> apt-get moo
[03:13] <CellTech> Is 'Preload' a good thing to instal?
[03:13] <gmachine_24> alright I will try it and get back to you all. thank you all SO MUCH!! :)
[03:14] <blnk> thanks for the help anyways
[03:14] <myr> CellTech, probably not going to make a big difference in speed, but you can try it
[03:14] <sacarlson> CellTech: I didn't know I had to install preload,  I thought it was built into what comes with the kernel
[03:15] <CellTech> I saw something that's sudo apt-get install preload
[03:15] <sacarlson> !preload
[03:15] <clever> skel: now its time to play init.d whack-a-service!
[03:16] <skel> does 12.04 use system.d ?
[03:16] <z1lla> plz don't whack mine
[03:17] <clever> skel: its 11.10 i'm updating to, but dpkg keeps stopping services and forgetting about them
[03:17] <clever> having to restart them manualy
[03:17] <clever> and just as i finish, it stops another!
[03:17] <skel> clever: ah ok. thats one think I like about fedora, using the chkconfig utility where I can easily see whats set to what
[03:18] <skel> I guess I could install it on ubuntu too
[03:18] <clever> skel: gentoo just doesnt mess with that, it leaves the service restarts up to the user
[03:18] <dv310p3r> Is there a way to get rid of or hide and reclaim the space taken up by the top panel in Unity. I want to get rid of it and the left panel and just use AWN
[03:18]  * Agent_bob thought that there was a "chkconfig" for debian "and debian based..."
[03:18] <skel> Agent_bob: yeah, you're right. I just saw it in the package list. I'll give it a shot
[03:19] <skel> bbiaf
[03:20] <dude> hey
[03:20] <Agent_bob> how's the weather in fl dude>guest96470
[03:21] <Guest96470> i guess is good
[03:21] <rams_pandu> hi all, can any body help me in changing the order of users in the log in  screen? I have 2 users, myself and a guest. I have created the guest account a few days back, and logged in as guest for 11 times. but it always appears in the top of the list. I want my account to be on the top of the list.
[03:22] <Guest96470> I just put a new graphics card into my acer, and it's crashing, does anyone knows how to find out which is the part that is messing up ? I am wondering if it's the power supply that is failing
[03:27] <rams_pandu> hi all, can any body help me in changing the order of users in the log in  screen? I have 2 users, myself and a guest. I have created the guest account a few days back, and logged in as guest for 11 times. but it always appears in the top of the list. I want my account to be on the top of the list.
[03:28] <duckx> where can i get a list of IP's where I can blacklist? i keep getting brute force attempts from china and russia..
[03:28] <skel> rams_pandu: I think its alphabetical
[03:28] <duckx> i just want to ban the entire country if possible
[03:28] <stuntman_dan> I am trying to get rid of a launcher icon and if I drag it into the trash, a dialog box pops up saying I can't move it to the trash, but I can choose to delete it instead. but if I click delete, I get an error saying the file does not exist because .config/gnome-panel/launchers has nothing in it
[03:29] <rams_pandu> skel, is there no way that I can change this order/.
[03:29] <rams_pandu> skel, is there no way that I can change this order?
[03:29] <skel> rams_pandu: I don't know, I'd have to research it as I've never tried
[03:29] <skel> rams_pandu: I'd try renaming guest if it doesn't matter
[03:30] <clever> skel: and its done! :_
[03:30] <clever> :)
[03:31] <skel> duckx: have you considered using an IPS and have it dynamically block them based on rule violations?
[03:31] <rams_pandu> skel, I tried searching it in google. ubuntuforums says that the order depends in the frequency of logging in
[03:31] <skel> clever: sweet =]
[03:31] <stuntman_dan> anyone have any easy fix for this? I tried creating an empty document and naming it firefox-1.desktop and put it in the launchers directory to see if maybe that would delete the launcher properly when I drag it into the trash, but all it does is remove the file from the directory and the launcher stays on the bar at the bottom...
[03:32] <skel> rams_pandu: I'm sorry, I'm not sure. I'd try sticking around and re-asking every so often to see if someone else knows
[03:33] <rams_pandu> skel, thank you:-).
[03:33] <Agent_bob> stuntman_dan  right click the launcher maybe
[03:33] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: might consider gnome-shell instead of unity,  not totaly related to your problem but maybe an alternative
[03:34] <ahhughes> hey, how am I supposed to get mp3 support these days, rhythmbox says 'additional gstreamer plugins are required to play this file: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder', cheers
[03:34] <skel> duckx: there's snortsam and snort-inline and one other I've tried before
[03:35] <sacarlson> ahhughes: did you try install ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[03:35] <skel> duckx: it's kind of fun to setup and watch it work =]
[03:35] <ahhughes> sacarlson, Will do thanks!
[03:35] <stuntman_dan> agent_bob if I right click my only options are launch or properties
[03:36] <stuntman_dan> and all the properties does is show the command it uses to open firefox
[03:36] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson: I am using gnome already as I didn't like unity
[03:36] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson: or is gnome-shell something different from the actual gnome interface?
[03:37] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: gnome-shell is a different desktop look then unity
[03:38] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, is gnome-shell different from gnome-panel? that is what I am using
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[03:41] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: gnome-shell is a whole new look there are other looks like cinnamon also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWuxiDDepus
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[03:42] <myr> k/b ?
[03:42] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, alright I'm a little confused... why are there so many different gnome packages? what exactly are the differences between gnome, gnome-panel, and gnome-shell??
[03:43] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: gnome-panel is just the added line on the top of your screen.  there are others that are more like themes that are different total looks and feel
[03:44] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, so gnome-panel is really just a skin for unity?
[03:44] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: its all broken down into peices
[03:44] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, so what I really want is just plain old 'gnome' right?
[03:45] <itaylor57> !nounity
[03:45] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: I think the gnome-shell offers a look and feel more like the older 10.04 look
[03:46] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, to be totally honest I haven't used ubuntu since 7.10, so everything is a little different. I definitely don't like the regular unity skin though
[03:46] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, maybe skin isn't the right word though
[03:47] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, so I should get all 3 and they would work together? or am I thinking backwards here
[03:47] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: which version
[03:47] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: someone must like it as it's the default
[03:47] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: try Cinnamon
[03:48] <stuntman_dan> sacarlson, I prefer power windows and locks in my car but they aren't what's installed by default.. =\ hahaha
[03:48] <kantlivelong> unity is a pos :)
[03:49] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, so cinnamon is basically a skin for unity like gnome-panel?
[03:49] <sacarlson> stuntman_dan: here you get a farari or a volkswagon and they still cost the same zero
[03:49] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: not a skin.. different ui
[03:49] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, see that's where I'm getting confused, how would it be using unity but be gnome at the same time
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> is there a tablet yet with ubuntu?
[03:49] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: unity works with gnome
[03:49] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: gnome works with gnome
[03:49] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, from what I remember when I used ubuntu before I had the choice of gnome or kde, they were separate things
[03:50] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I think there is
[03:50] <kantlivelong> cinnamon works with gnome
[03:50] <kantlivelong> gnome is like the "framework"
[03:50] <kantlivelong> i suppose
[03:50] <stuntman_dan> alright
[03:50] <itaylor57> !unity
[03:50] <hylian> i installed gnustep, but for some reason there is no option for it in the log in menu.
[03:51] <kantlivelong> or Cinnamon :)
[03:51] <WhiteRussian> +OK TugZz.dcfs2/
[03:51] <stuntman_dan> hmm
[03:51] <paopao> who use macbuntu？
[03:51] <kantlivelong> cinnamon is like gnome3+win+gnome2
[03:51] <stuntman_dan> well it can't hurt to try
[03:51] <stuntman_dan> hahahaha
[03:52] <kantlivelong> paopao: i use a mac...
[03:52] <kantlivelong> paopao: but not macbuntu
[03:52] <WhiteRussian> +OK pLQve1w8X030.VUIS0Eppy4/BwXrV0zQaM/0gROvF1/f42o.khrZN/JVOZ00
[03:52] <stuntman_dan> ehh... when I search for cinnamon in the software centre it just comes up with 2 magazines for $8
[03:52] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: not in software center
[03:52] <paopao> gnome2+macbuntu, i think it's the best combination for ubuntu
[03:53] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[03:53] <itaylor57> paopao, macbuntu is not supported here
[03:53] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: you can add the PPA then install cinnamon
[03:53] <kantlivelong> gnome2 is dead
[03:53] <stuntman_dan> oh hm that looks pretty cool
[03:53] <Cybersonic> long live gnome2
[03:53] <urbancommando> lol
[03:54] <stuntman_dan> !ppa
[03:54] <stuntman_dan> hmm
[03:54] <stuntman_dan> !addppa
[03:54] <avoider> So i installed ubuntu server fine with gnome desktop i can connect with admin account from my windows 7 computer, but it seems slow and closes windows by itself and the other user i created it connects but only with blue screen and i only can right click pretty much do nothing any ideas?
[03:54] <paopao> itaylor57 why？
[03:54] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[03:55] <avoider> This is using remote desktop
[03:55] <kantlivelong> paopao: because macbuntu != ubuntu
[03:55] <itaylor57> paopao, derivitaves of unbuntu are not supported
[03:56] <avoider> Is it because my server is connected to a router?
[03:56] <stuntman_dan> hey kantlivelong
[03:56] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: ?
[03:56] <stuntman_dan> lets say hypothetically I am using 12.04
[03:56] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: then cinnamon wont work yet :P
[03:56] <paopao> derivitaves, what's this mean
[03:56] <stuntman_dan> hahahaha alright
[03:57] <kantlivelong> paopao: forks
[03:57] <hylian> is gnustep useable on a regular ubuntu machine? where do i go to that about precise beta issues?
[03:57] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: yeah. i updated to 12.04 for wine 1.5 and it b0rked cinnamon
[03:57] <ome> !doesntwork
[03:57] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: had to reinstall to 11.10
[03:57] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, I just decided to go straight to 12.04 as I read about a lot of issues with switchable amd graphics with onieric
[03:58] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: been workin smooth for me :)
[03:58] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: o switchable amd heh
[03:58] <kantlivelong> idk
[03:58] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, would I be able to 'downgrade' or would I just have to format and install the older version?
[03:58] <kantlivelong> i typically wait a month or two before upgrading releases
[03:58] <paopao> kantlivelong, I'm confused @___@  (>___<)
[03:59] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: format.. but you can copy your homedir :)
[03:59] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, well I only installed linux like yesterday or the day before so there's really nothing there
[03:59] <sacarlson> avoider: you say you can connect to your ubuntu server from win7 but didn't tell us what method of connection. like ssh ?  http ? vnc ? ftp ? ...
[03:59] <avoider> I never had issues connecting from windows 7 to windows server 2008 rc
[03:59] <avoider> i did
[03:59] <avoider> remote desktop
[03:59] <kantlivelong> sacarlson: go to 11.10.. you shouldnt be on 12.04 unless your brave :)
[04:00] <sacarlson> avoider: sorry I missed that so that's vnc
[04:00] <avoider> No
[04:00] <avoider> Its remote desktop application
[04:00] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, I think I even downloaded the iso for 11.10 anyway...
[04:00] <sacarlson> avoider: and what application are you running on your win7?
[04:00] <avoider> I'm using remote desktop connection
[04:00] <avoider> to connect to my server
[04:01] <hylian> why wouldn't  a window manager like gnustep not show up in the log in menu?
[04:01] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, I think I will try cinnamon on 11.10, only takes half an hour or so to format and install anyway. be back in a bit!
[04:01] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: i gave unity and gnome3 a fair try and i cant stand them.. they are going backwards for the whole pc experience
[04:01] <kantlivelong> stuntman_dan: l8r
[04:01] <avoider> I can login fine with the admin account but runs slow and windows close by themselves
[04:01] <kantlivelong> gl
[04:01] <stuntman_dan> kantlivelong, I'm sure it'll be fine. hahaha
[04:01] <avoider> also when i connect to another user on the server i just get a blue screen
[04:01] <avoider> and onlky can right click
[04:01] <kantlivelong> :0
[04:01] <avoider> only*
[04:01] <Lirth> I'm trying to use my Razer Megalodon for Ubuntu 11.10. I can't seem to use it in 7.1 surround sound mode with ubuntu though. When I look through the sound settings, it can only be placed at 5.1. Any idea how to fix that (unless I'm wrong and it's actually a 5.1 headset).
[04:03] <hylian> why won't gnustep show up in the log in options?
[04:03] <avoider> method im using  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/06/connect-to-ubuntu-11-04-from-windows-via-remote-desktop/
[04:05] <avoider> is it because my computer is on same router as my server?
[04:06] <sacarlson> avoider: sorry for my ignorance in windows as in linux we have a few remote desktops but yours would be xrpd running in linux http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/06/connect-to-ubuntu-11-04-from-windows-via-remote-desktop/
[04:07] <blendedbychris> if my /boot doesn't have a menu.lst how else does grub figure out what kernel to use?
[04:07] <avoider> i know that sacarlson
[04:07] <avoider> I dont think you understand my issues...
[04:08] <avoider> Repeating what i have said is not fixing the issue.
[04:08] <hylian> why won't gnustep show up in the log in managers list of environments to log into?
[04:09] <sacarlson> avoider: I think it only looks at the active users screen so if your other user isn't loged in there is no screen to see
[04:09] <kantlivelong> hylian: stop spamming plz
[04:09] <avoider> so it has to be logged in on the server to see it on my windows machine?
[04:09] <avoider> That makes no logic to me..
[04:10] <kantlivelong> avoider: to login to the session the user needs to be logged in.
[04:10] <sacarlson> avoider: in that mode I think so,  there are other modes of vnc that can be setup to virtual screens
[04:10] <kantlivelong> avoider: its not like rdp.
[04:10] <hylian> kantlivelong, you are allowed to ask every once in a while. i am not posting it every 10 seconds.
[04:11] <avoider> Can some help me setup a connection like it would be if i had a hosting account from a company?
[04:11] <kantlivelong> 3 times on the same view is more than once n a while
[04:11] <avoider> i wanna be able to ssh etc pw
[04:11] <itaylor57> hylian, yea but cross posting can get you into troublw
[04:12] <hylian> kantlivelong, a "view"? that is controlled by how many people are speaking, not a time limit. but your point is made, and so is mine.
[04:12] <kantlivelong> i see all 3 same questions repeated on my monitor. without scrolling
[04:13] <kantlivelong> asking more wont get you an answer. it will likely just piss people off
[04:13] <avoider> hylian: pls stop being annoying im trying to get help
[04:13] <sacarlson> !ssh | avoider:
[04:13] <hylian> kantlivelong, which has nothing to do at all with when i posted them. on a really slow night in irc, you could see 30 minutes of post on one screen.
[04:13] <avoider> ubottu: when i use putty it tells me connection error
[04:13] <sacarlson> !sshd | avoider
[04:13] <hylian> good nigh all.
[04:13] <nachosx> can someone tell me, what does ubuntu use to get power-management working? im trying to get my gentoo install to sleep on closing the lid
[04:14] <kantlivelong> nachosx: acpid
[04:14] <hylian> avoider, i was as well. Have a good nght.
[04:14] <nachosx> thanks kantlivelong
[04:14] <kantlivelong> nachosx: np :) gentoo is le fun :)
[04:15] <sacarlson> avoider: for adding remote ssh you need to install the ssh-server ;   sudo apt-get install ssh ;
[04:15] <Lirth> I'm having trouble getting my usb headset to run 7.1 surround. I can only have it run in 5.1 and 7.1 doesn't even appear. Any idea what I should do?
[04:15] <avoider> sacarlson: and that will fix my issue?
[04:16] <rodayo> Anyone know what's the latest version that's available for netbook edition?
[04:16] <sacarlson> avoider: seems you have a few issues so this will fix you putty problem
[04:16] <kantlivelong> Lirth: does the driver support 7.1?
[04:17] <kantlivelong> rodayo: netbook edition is gone i believe
[04:17] <rodayo> kantlivelong, wow really?
[04:17] <kantlivelong> rodayo: yeah. the "feature" that made it netbook edition was Unity.. which is now default
[04:18] <rodayo> lol, need some sorta linux that will run smoothly on low end h/w and smalls creen
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> unity on netbooks rock
[04:18] <rodayo> oh i see, so....i should download 12.04?
[04:18] <kantlivelong> rodayo: 11.10 unless your comfortable running betas :P
[04:18] <rodayo> i thought the final release date was the 4th?
[04:19] <kantlivelong> dunno
[04:19] <kantlivelong> its in final beta
[04:19] <kantlivelong> 4th month
[04:19] <kantlivelong> so
[04:19] <kantlivelong> anytime now :P
[04:19] <ultrixx> when will 12.04 be released? in two weeks?
[04:19] <rinzler> How do I check my disk for errors in the live disk environment?
[04:20] <preludelinux> at its current state .... its still beta ... needs lots of work and polish
[04:20] <kantlivelong> rinzler: disk utility
[04:20] <kantlivelong> rinzler: to start for SMART check
[04:21] <preludelinux> smartctl works nicely
[04:21] <kantlivelong> oh wylde...... my enter and . key are swapped :)
[04:21] <avoider> sacarlson: thank you so much for your support was able to connect fine now with putty to my server
[04:21] <rinzler> kantlivelong: Thx
[04:21] <sacarlson> avoider: very good
[04:22] <seroki> can you update from beta to the stable release when it comes out e.g (12.04 beta to current)
[04:22] <avoider> Have good night sir
[04:22] <kantlivelong> seroki: yes
[04:23] <evildaemon> Hey guys. Is it just me or is the mit-scheme package broken?
[04:24] <autojack> I have a third-party apt repo specified in my sources.list which provides a package with the same name and version as one in the main oneiric repo. how do I tell apt-get that I want to get this package from the third-party repo?
[04:25] <rinzler> If I am able to access files on a failing disk, would I be able to copy the files to another disk without loosing data?
[04:25] <sacarlson> autojack: maybe try download the deb file and see if it will install it after you uninstall the version now installed,  not sure that will work eather
[04:26] <autojack> sacarlson: hmm, yeah maybe. it seems like there should be a cleaner way though.
[04:26] <evildaemon> rinzler: Depends on if the blocks are corrupted. But in principle yes.
[04:26] <preludelinux> theres lots of ways to save your data
[04:26] <preludelinux> fsarchiver works nicely
[04:26] <sacarlson> autojack: the problem I see is it's the same name and version so you can't use aptitude to pick it out for you
[04:27] <preludelinux> i just go through pulling data off a failing raid ....
[04:27] <autojack> well, the version is not precisely the same. the ubuntu version adds -ubuntu0 or something.
[04:27] <preludelinux> got ^
[04:27] <rinzler> evildaemon: If blocks are corrupted, would a repair attempt damage my files?
[04:27] <sacarlson> autojack: I guess you could temp remove the repository your present version is installed on then reinstall it?
[04:28] <autojack> good point
[04:28] <evildaemon> rinzler: I don't see why.
[04:28] <rinzler> evildaemon: Ok. Thanks
[04:28] <autojack> although another issue is, this is an Ubuntu EC2 AMI. I would prefer to have this work right always, so that when we launch the AMI it installs the right version.
[04:28] <autojack> hmmm.
[04:29] <evildaemon> rinzler: Unless spinning the disks damages it or your program just starts doing random writes. Which doesn't seem likely.
[04:29] <evildaemon> But yeah; I can't install MIT Scheme from the repos.
[04:29] <rinzler> evildaemon: K. Thx
[04:30] <knownothing> Worth it to upgrade to latest LTS from last LTS?
[04:30] <autojack> oh!
[04:30] <autojack> I see the problem!!
[04:31] <sacarlson> autojack: you might consider setup of your own custom repository
[04:31] <autojack> my sources.list line is
[04:31] <autojack> deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com precise main
[04:31] <itaylor57> knownothing, you can't upgrade to beta LTS, you will have to wait for release
[04:31] <autojack> but I'm running oneiric!
[04:31] <autojack> so that is just getting ignored.
[04:31] <rinzler> In disk utility, SMART status says "disk has a few bad sectors" how do I correct this?
[04:31] <knownothing> yargh.
[04:31] <autojack> I suspect anyway.
[04:32] <metaspike> rinzler, that means your harddisk drive is about to die
[04:32] <evildaemon> rinzler: Backup and buy a new one. It's too small to really repair.
[04:32] <itaylor57> knownothing, you would have to upgrade to 11.04 _> 11.10 then 12.04
[04:32] <knownothing> yargh++
[04:32] <rinzler> evildaemon, metaspike: thanks
[04:33] <metaspike> get everything off there asap and start with a new one, you can use hdparm to tell linux to ignore bad sectors, but that's like sticking a plaster onto a amputation
[04:33] <itaylor57> knownothing, if you wait formal release you can directly go from 10.04 to 12.04
[04:33] <autojack> yeah I think that was totally my problem, or part of it.
[04:33] <autojack> woot
[04:33] <sacarlson> autojack: oh that version would have been built with all the wrong linked libs and wouldn't have worked anyway
[04:34] <rinzler> Would dd-ing my data across to a new drive keep everything intact?
[04:34] <evildaemon> rinzler: Depends on the integrity of the disk image.
[04:34] <nachosx> hm, my macbook wont wake from suspend using pm-utils
[04:34] <nachosx> probably the heat, its hot as fuck here
[04:34] <evildaemon> rinzler: If you mess it up your screwed. Also you'll probably have to resize it for the new drive.
[04:35] <itaylor57> !language | Nach0z
[04:35] <itaylor57> !language | nachosx
[04:35] <evildaemon> !help
[04:36] <evildaemon> Wrong bang.
[04:36] <evildaemon> I wanted a list of options.
[04:36] <rinzler> evildaemon: ok. What is the best way to preserve everything? Sadly it's the boot disk...
[04:37] <Nach0z> ....?
[04:37] <Nach0z> itaylor57: wat
[04:37] <Nach0z> >_<
[04:37] <itaylor57> Nach0z, sorry misstype
[04:37] <rinzler> Try /msg ubottu !bot to experiment privately
[04:39] <sacarlson> rinzler: to do a complete copy you would need to boot from a different partition or live cd and backup each used partition of your system,  many methods can be used like rsync or tar and many others.  the mbr backup might take a different tool
[04:40] <rinzler> sacarlson: Can you link me to a tutorial to do any of the methods you have mentioned from a live disk?
[04:40] <rinzler> sacarlson: Preferably the easiest :P
[04:41] <sacarlson> rinzler: I'm not sure what's the easiest  I just keep multiboot partitions and just keep a backup of my /home directory https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[04:42] <happyface> How can I fix this while cross-compiling? "make[2]: windres: Command not found"
[04:43] <rumpe1> happyface, install the package that contains the executable windres
[04:43] <happyface> rumpe1: everything I see says it's in mingw32, which I have
[04:43] <rumpe1> happyface, doesn't matter.
[04:44] <rinzler> sacarlson: I've done a full backup to an external disk recently, but since the MOST current files are on the disk and I can get to it I'd rather use it as the source, but I guess I should give up and use the backup :P
[04:44] <happyface> rumpe1: what do you mean?
[04:44] <rumpe1> happyface, a command is missing.. you have to make it available. And executables are often in packages. So find the package and install it (maybe by compiling some other source code)
[04:45] <sacarlson> rinzler: I'm not sure I have an understanding of what your saying.  but rsync is good to only move what is needed that it see's has changed
[04:46] <rumpe1> happyface, hmm... windres seems to be a utility of mingw itself..
[04:46] <imyousuf> I am trying to use port forwarding along with UFW. In UFW log I can see port forwards to the host I am asking it to forward but UFW blocks the forward request. My configuration and log output - http://pastebin.com/ATuCacJk can someone please help me?
[04:47] <wylde> happyface: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/916981/  <-- output of apt-file search -l windres
[04:49] <ozzloy> how do i remove a ppa?
[04:49] <Lirth> kantlivelong: Sorry this is so much later, yes. I do believe that it does support 7.1
[04:51] <ozzloy> add-apt-repository --remove $PPA says "you are about to add ..."
[04:51] <sacarlson> imyousuf: I"m not sure why I don't see this address 192.168.1.54:22 in your log
[04:51] <ozzloy> but add-apt-repository --help says -r to remove
[04:51] <sacarlson> imyousuf: opps oh that's the port at the end
[04:51] <Jasonxx> guys how to setup contab to start someone on reboot .. lets say i want to perform " screen -d -m rtorrent " on reboot .. how would i do it
[04:51] <imyousuf> yes sacarlson, its there at the end
[04:52] <ozzloy> can i just remove the directory form /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[04:52] <ssiie> can anyone help
[04:52] <Jasonxx> will something like @rboot screen -d -m rtorrent .. work?
[04:52] <ssiie> i want to connect 2 ubuntu pc with a crossover cable
[04:52] <ozzloy> er... the associated files, i mean
[04:52] <sacarlson> imyousuf: ok so as far as I can see it seems to work
[04:52] <accipter> Jasonxx: crontab executes commands regularly and isn't the right place for that
[04:53] <blendedbychris> should i use /srv/ssl or /var/ssl for my private key location?
[04:53] <ssiie> i want to connect 2 ubuntu pc with a crossover cable what should i do
[04:53] <imyousuf> sacarlson: [UFW BLOCK] at the start of the log, I want UFW to ALLOW it
[04:53]  * DarwinSurvivor is here to help
[04:53] <accipter> Jasonxx: did you try to google? this comes up as the first hit and looks pretty good. http://rpatterson.net/blog/screen-sessions-at-boot
[04:54] <bisht> how to reinstall gnome-session in ubuntu 12.04
[04:55] <sacarlson> imyousuf: I guess we would have to see the entire iptables to get a better view of what ufw has setup,   sudo iptables -L | pastebinit
[04:55] <Gyro54> Can someone help with DVD encryption. I have a message that my encryption library is not installed?
[04:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Gyro54: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:56] <rinzler> Live disk environment is not recognising USB disk. Any suggestions?
[04:56] <DarwinSurvivor> rinzler: is there anything on the disk you need to recover, or do you just want it working again?
[04:56] <Gyro54> No but I will now. Thanks
[04:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Gyro54: no prob. installing libdvdcss2 *should* solve the problem, come back if you get stuck again
[04:57] <KM0201> bisht: what do you mean "reinstall gnome session"
[04:57] <rinzler> DarwinSurvivor: Need to use it to restore from a backup that is stored there.
[04:57] <DarwinSurvivor> rinzler: so the backup is on the usb disk? Also, is it a flash drive or usb hard drive?
[04:58] <imyousuf> sacarlson: adding to the pastebin and notifying you
[04:59] <bisht> KM0201 : i accidentally removed it once since then when i log in it does not show dash and any pannel
[04:59] <KM0201> i think its gnome-shell, not really sure though
[05:00] <KM0201> bisht: or just install one of the other desktops... kubuntu-desktop, etc
[05:00] <rinzler> DarwinSurvivor: Yes backup is on the disk. It's a hard drive that I am using with a USB adapter of sorts. Never had problems with it until now, but it may be that the live environment doesn't do plug-and-play very well...
[05:00] <DarwinSurvivor> bisht: did you remove it through software center or the command line?
[05:00] <FuZi0N> Anyone know how to get fxp working for vsftpd in ubuntu?
[05:00] <bisht> KM02001 : yes i did but it didn't work
[05:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rinzler: do you have another machine that you can plug it into to verify it's not a hardware problem (I've usd usb cables that act up sometimes, etc)
[05:01] <KM0201> bisht: hmm, then i don't know.
[05:01] <bisht> KM02001 : so now i am using kubuntu-desktop and waiting for next LTS release of 12.04
[05:02] <sacarlson> rinzler: maybe it's just not automounting your usb disk,  are you sure it's not seen in places?
[05:02] <rinzler> DarwinSurvivor: I don't, but I don't see why I couldn't just put it in the computer temporarily to restore... I'll just do that for the time being.
[05:02] <bisht> KM0201 : i also reinstall gnome-desktop but  it didn't  work with ubuntu but it is working with ubuntu 2D.
[05:03] <rinzler> sacarlson: not seeing it in places. Also not seeing it in disk utility.
[05:03] <KM0201> bisht: i have no idea... sorry... i would think ubuntu-desktop would resolve the matter.
[05:03] <DarwinSurvivor> rinzler: Have you double checked all the cables (both usb *and* power)? Remember, disks larger than laptop drives require external power
[05:03] <sacarlson> rinzler: oh ya if not seen in disk utility then def not seen
[05:03] <imyousuf> sacarlson: Here is the log - http://pastebin.com/937wQJcm
[05:04] <sacarlson> rinzler: I know on my system some usb ports work and others don't all the time
[05:04] <NameLess_exe> hello, i'm wondering when i plug in a mouse, does ubuntu install a driver for it? or does it already exist
[05:04] <DarwinSurvivor> rinzler: open gparted and see if it shows up under "Devices". If it does, switch to that device in gparted and see if there are any warning flags on any of the partitions
[05:04] <sacarlson> imyousuf: ok reading
[05:04] <bisht> KM0201: do you know any other command line or something which can fix this problem.
[05:04] <imyousuf> sacarlson: thanks, eagerly awaiting for some solution :)
[05:05] <KM0201> bisht: nope... try asking in #ubuntu+1 though.. since that is for 12.04 questions, but 12.04 is working perfectly for me
[05:05] <DarwinSurvivor> NameLess_exe: ubuntu (and most linux distros) have a driver already included that will work with most mice. You may need to tweak to get extra buttons (more than 3 + scrolling) to work though.
[05:05] <test_> what happened to the game called same gnome?
[05:05] <test_> I looked everything and can't find it to install it.
[05:06] <bisht> KM0201 : how can i run shell script from any directory without using "./"
[05:06] <KM0201> bisht: i have no idea.
[05:06] <DarwinSurvivor> test_: did you try the search feature?
[05:06] <rumpe1> bisht, put it/link it to a directory in your (search)-PATH
[05:06] <NameLess_exe> DarwinSurvivor: ok thanks
[05:07] <bisht> rumpe1: well, i really don't know how to do that. can you tell me?
[05:07] <DarwinSurvivor> bisht: I usually make a directory called "~/bin/" then add "PATH=$PATH:/home/<user>/bin" to my .bashrc file
[05:07] <test_> yes and I even spent an hour finding it manually. then to make sure I had the name right I went on google images and it was correct.
[05:07] <rumpe1> bisht, you can get the path entering "echo $PATH" in terminal
[05:08] <FuZi0N> Anyone know how to get fxp working for vsftpd in ubuntu?
[05:08] <rumpe1> bisht, or just copy it to /usr/local/bin (with "sudo cp <scriptfile> /usr/local/bin"). Should work in most cases.
[05:09] <DarwinSurvivor> test_: googling ubuntu "same gnome" gave me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1474327 which explains what happened
[05:09] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, funny thing: ~/bin seems to be in the $PATH by default  o.O
[05:09] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, at least on my ubuntu (11.10)
[05:10] <test_> "Swell Foop"? hey thanks!
[05:10] <DarwinSurvivor> test_: apparently
[05:11] <bisht> DarwinSurvivor: do you know how to fix problem of ubuntu 12.04 of not displaying dash and any other pannel services
[05:11] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: I've come across that before. Sometimes it's already there, sometimes it's not
[05:11] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, also the first time I see this. Maybe an awesome new feature \o/
[05:11] <DarwinSurvivor> bisht: sorry, I don't use unity very much (only a few family machines)
[05:12] <test_> gracias es para otra persona. ya me voy a dormir
[05:12] <test_> thank you, it's for another person. I'm going to bed
[05:12] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: beware that a *few* applications don't respect it (FireFox, I'm looking at you!)
[05:12] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, but it's also first place in the PATH-sequence. Maybe also a security issue.
[05:12] <sacarlson> imyousuf: it's a bit complicated but it apears this line ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             192.168.1.54        tcp dpt:ssh   is too far down the chain
[05:13] <sacarlson> imyousuf: as this will catch all trafic before that line ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:www
[05:13] <imyousuf> sacarlson: this rule is due to the ufw rule I added
[05:13] <imyousuf> If you notice the ufw status you will it there
[05:13] <sacarlson> imyousuf: I guess you will have to add that rull before the other
[05:14] <sacarlson> imyousuf: or insert instead of add
[05:14] <imyousuf> ok, let me try sacarlson
[05:16] <FernandoCueva> I have a global problem with flash on ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 on this particular pc, other pc works fine... what can the problem be? I tried live instalation and it also fails here but works on the other pc there's a hardware issue I'm sure can you guys help me troubleshoot it
[05:16] <test_> OMG, they destroyed it! it won't even play and has no options to change to planets or nothing, why can't they just leave things a lone that worked? Like the new ubuntu, completely a mess.
[05:16] <bisht> what 'basename' do exactly in shell script
[05:18] <rumpe1> bisht, man basename: " basename - strip directory and suffix from filenames"
[05:18] <FernandoCueva> test_, I like ubuntu 11.10 radeon performance better then 12
[05:18] <jen> does anyone here use PENCIL animation
[05:18] <scientes> the sizes on ubuntu mono font are off
[05:18] <scientes> ubuntu mono 12 is like the size of dejavu mono 9
[05:18] <test_> I'm using 10.10
[05:19] <bisht> rumpe1 : what is the meaning of if[-z  ] means in shell
[05:19] <test_> hey can somebody help me install a tar.gz file? I have no clue
[05:19] <FernandoCueva> tar xvf I'm sure will work
[05:19] <test_> I found the same gnome on a website to download for ubuntu
[05:19] <Guest98426> Im not sure what to save an animation as?
[05:19] <rumpe1> bisht, you need to use manpages -> man bash.
[05:19] <test_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gnome-games/1:2.28.0-0ubuntu1
[05:20] <DarwinSurvivor> brb 3 minutes
[05:20] <test_> orale
[05:21] <FernandoCueva> test_, hablas espaniol?
[05:21] <test_> si
[05:21] <taxman> si ho
[05:21] <FernandoCueva> que decias sobre quel ubuntu 12 es un mess
[05:21] <test_> que no sirve
[05:22] <FernandoCueva> es que es beta aun
[05:22] <test_> no me permite cambiar nada
[05:22] <rumpe1> bisht, enter "man bash" in terminal and search for "-z<space>" by entering "/-z\s". Next hit: n, last hit: N.
[05:22] <test_> parece que todos es beta jaja
[05:22] <taxman> this is not mexico
[05:22] <FernandoCueva> te gusta mas el 11?
[05:23] <urbancommando> ahaha
[05:23] <test_> estoy usando 10.10 por ahora y quiero un juego pero no se como instalarlo.
[05:23] <bisht> rumpe1; Thanks
[05:23] <test_> no
[05:23] <FernandoCueva> sigue las reglas clasicas del instaleo: 1 ./configure 2 make 3 make install
[05:24] <rumpe1> bisht, that's all you usually need. Not very complicated and can be used the same way in vim/view/less/more/...
[05:24] <DarwinSurvivor> back
[05:24] <test_> me gusta ubuntu 7
[05:25] <rumpe1> bisht, also maybe look into regular expressions, if you want to write "smarter" search patterns
[05:25] <bisht> rumpe1 : in man pages ?
[05:26] <rumpe1> bisht, if you want to search something in man pages. Yes. Man pages are great. You already have a whole library for all kinds of tools installed. Learn to use it.
[05:26] <rumpe1> bisht, often much faster than google/irc/...
[05:26] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: if you really want to torture yourself, you can even google the man pages!
[05:27] <bisht> rumpe1 : yeah, i can see that its really fast
[05:29] <rumpe1> bisht, also useful is "man -k <term>" or "apropos <term>", if you don't know which manpage you actually need for a given search term.
[05:30] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: don't forget "whatis"
[05:31] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, hm... what's the difference to whatis? Just a different name for the same thing?
[05:32] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: changing your name constantly makes it more difficult to follow the conversation, and thus harder for people to help you
[05:32] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: did you solve your problem with the application yet?
[05:32] <kundancool> "rumpe1" "DarwinSurvivor" I would like to thank you both for good tips that I didn't knew :)
[05:32] <squeeeshie> DarwinSurvivor, no i have not.
[05:32] <mi3> hello
[05:32] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, ah... whatis seems to be apropos + filter. Right, maybe less confusing than apropos for beginners.
[05:32] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: whatis is for full matches only (will make a shorter list if you know the app/cmd name)
[05:33] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, good to know.
[05:33] <DarwinSurvivor> rumpe1: just learned that 2 minutes ago myself. By reading the man page :P
[05:33] <DarwinSurvivor> lol
[05:33] <rumpe1> DarwinSurvivor, lol ^^
[05:34] <kundancool> lol
[05:34] <kundancool> #IRC is great, I will stick around to gain more info :)
[05:36] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: are you trying to figure out what file type to use for saving? (I'm assuming this is to save for further editing, not as a video file)
[05:36] <squeeeshie> DarwinSurvivor, yes so i can put it on deviantart
[05:37] <squeeeshie> DarwinSurvivor, no i want to make it into a short video
[05:37] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: in that case, use File->Export
[05:38] <vagvaf> hello people, recently i've been having problems with firefox and probably flash player. youtube will play on negative colors and won't play when the video is embedded. google maps won't work at all (not even scrolling) and some other sites as well. any ideas? ubuntu 11.10, firefox 11
[05:38] <squeeeshie> DarwinSurvivor, yes
[05:38] <KM0201> vagvaf: a friend is having the youtube flash problem you're having
[05:38] <KM0201> i've not saw a solution yet
[05:38] <squeeeshie> <.<
[05:38] <DarwinSurvivor> I'm not sure what file formats deviant art expects, but I doubt they accept video, so you'll probably have to export to mpeg/ogg/etc, then use another application to convert it to png or gif
[05:39] <DarwinSurvivor> unless you can get it to export to png or gif directly
[05:39] <Laiam> whats the offtopic channel
[05:39] <metaspike> vagvaf, do you have the correct proporietory drivers installed? (using the "additional drivers tool")
[05:39] <squeeeshie> yes but then, well hold on
[05:40] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: nvm, it appears deviantart accept some kind of flash video, not sure what they use for it though
[05:40] <vagvaf> metaspike yes
[05:40] <squeeeshie> it still doesnt let me do it
[05:40] <rodayo> So I got 11.10 running on my netbook. is there anyway to force fit windows that are too large into my screen size?
[05:40] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: I recommend checking with deviantart to see what filetypes they support, then check the pencil-animations forums for exporting/converting tips (there are quite a few tutorials in the forums)
[05:41] <squeeeshie> yeah am doing so at the moment
[05:41] <Laiam> weeeeeeeee
[05:42] <DarwinSurvivor> squeeeshie: for pencil-animation specific questions, you're better off asking in their forums. If you need suggestions for conversion tools (ex: mpeg->gif), we can probably help you with that (ffmpeg does almost anything)
[05:42] <metaspike> vagvaf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11801233 - all kinds of explanations and workarounds there, gotta love flash! v_v
[05:42] <Laiam> rodayo: gnome3 works better on netbooks according to a friend of mine.
[05:42] <squeeeshie> DarwinSurvivor, okay hold on well i still need to finish it
[05:43] <vagvaf> thanks metaspike
[05:44] <metaspike> np
[05:44] <tianhong-wang> np
[05:45] <urbancommando> wow want expecting everything to be blue on ubuntu server 11.10  after installing gnome on it
[05:45] <urbancommando> wasnt ..
[05:46] <squeeeshie> um nevermind they are having issues
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !release
[05:47] <rodayo> Laiam, yep now i see it =P I thought the windows were getting cut off but they get squeezed in real tight so i couldn't tell
[05:48] <Laiam> !gnome3
[05:49] <kundancool> !unity
[05:51] <DarwinSurvivor> somone needs to update ubottu that gnome3 can be installed from regular repos in 11.10 (used it myself)
[05:52] <Laiam> DarwinSurvivor: it didn't say anything about 11.10 only 11.04
[05:52] <sacarlson> DarwinSurvivor: I think under natty/11.04 mean anything less than version 11.04 aren't supported
[05:59] <raptor67682> a queston . how to reduce a jpg of 50%size wiht convert (imagemacgick)?
[06:02] <raptor67782>   done:   convert -size 320x240  IMGP2529_R.JPG  ta.jpg
[06:08] <kingkatari> how do i changer ownership and make all files and sub dirs of a folder belong to someone besides root
[06:10] <DarwinSurvivor> "sudo chown -R <new_user>:<new_group> <directory"
[06:10] <DarwinSurvivor> -R is the important part
[06:10] <Laiam> recursive option!
[06:10] <DarwinSurvivor> kingkatari: or do you want a GUI method?
[06:10] <Laiam> gui~ click the button that says apply to children
[06:11] <Raliegh> Hello. I am running multiple shoutcast processes on my server. I'm at 5 currently. However, 2 of them are conflicting with each other for some reason. When one starts, it's terminating the other. The other 3 are left untouched. I need to know where to go for the log file to try and determine what is causing this. Any ideas?
[06:11] <kingkatari> so if i cd to /var/www and then say type sudo chown -R kingkatari:kingkatari /var/www/* it will work
[06:12] <Kartook> can i get ubutnu 11.10 on gnome 2
[06:12] <Kartook> i am not comfortable qwith GNOME3
[06:12] <Kartook> q1 : How do i get gnome 2 on my ubuntu 11.10
[06:13] <DarwinSurvivor> kingkatari: yes, if you also want the /var/www directory itself owned by you, then just omit the *
[06:13] <Laiam> kartook: try kde
[06:13] <Kartook> ohh okie sure i will
[06:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: gnome2 is basically dead (there is a fork, but it's not close to ready). Have you tried the other desktops such as kde, xfce or lmde?
[06:14] <Anarhist> hi, i need a command line tool to tell me the total number of files in the directory recursively
[06:14] <Kartook> nope i am tried .i was started gnome and i am very much confrtable so i stick
[06:14] <Laiam> kartook: did you install the gnome-shell package if so you can just change it to a different gnome desktop from the login screen the other two options use the familiar interface
[06:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: you can google-image the names, or visit each projects screenshot page if you want a quick idea of what they look like
[06:14] <Raliegh> Nobody has any ideas with my problem?
[06:14] <Kartook> need to have a look other desktop KDE
[06:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: youtube is also VERY helpful in chosing a new DE/WM
[06:14] <Kartook> nope ia mnot just i was installed new
[06:14] <Kartook> i was used 10.10 for long
[06:15] <Kartook> sure i will google it
[06:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: have you checked the /var/log/ directory?
[06:15] <Raliegh> No, is that where system logs are kept? I know that's where Icecast and certain programs keep their logs, but this isn't something that is logged by Shoutcast.
[06:16] <Raliegh> I need to know, by the system, why the process is being terminated.
[06:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: if it's not there, you will most likely have much better luck in a shoutcast channel since the likelyhood of finding a shoutcast user here is small (I've only touched it with mpd)
[06:16] <sacarlson> Kartook: other options are gnome-shell ;  that is more like and simulates classic gnome desktop feel
[06:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: all system logs (included dmesg) are stored in /var/log
[06:17] <Raliegh> dmesg is where I would go to find why a certain process got terminated?
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: just "sudo grep -R shout /var/log/*" and see if anything shows up
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> also try replacing "shout" with the PID of the process that died
[06:17] <Raliegh> I'd much rather FTP it. Putty is difficult to read stuff off of, heh.
[06:17] <Raliegh> Ahh, that's a good idea. Since it's recreatable I will do just that.
[06:17] <Raliegh> But I will need to grep.
[06:17] <Raliegh> Thanks Darwin!
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> no problem
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> grep is my favorit log analysis tool ever :D
[06:18] <Raliegh> Oh, actually, I can't find the PID, unless there's a way to find PID based off of port.
[06:18] <ahhughes> can anyone tell me if I can enqueue on selection in banshee?
[06:18] <Raliegh> I normally use htop
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> if you run "ps aux", does the process show up in there?
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> that will give you the PID (first column)
[06:18] <Raliegh> Yes, but again I'm running multiple shoutcast programs. They all come up as "Shoutcast"
[06:19] <Raliegh> That's why, to find the right PID, I need to find off of port.
[06:19] <Raliegh> Since they're on separate ports.
[06:19] <sacarlson> Raliegh: or maybe sudo netstat -pant ; I think it gives the name of what's using the port
[06:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: so write down all the PID's, then start the "sacrificial" one and see which PID is the newest (should also be the highest unless your PID have wrapped back around)
[06:20] <DarwinSurvivor> sacarlson: good idea, Raliegh try his suggestion first, sounds quicker
[06:20] <Raliegh> That works sacarlson, thanks. And Darwin, I didn't even think of that. Htop never put newest PID's at the top.
[06:20] <Raliegh> So yes, thank you~
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: for future reference. PID's are created sequencially. Once you run out, it wraps around to zero and start re-using discarded PIDs
[06:22] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: you can also make htop put newest at the top by sorting the PID column in reverse (desc) order
[06:22] <demonboy> hi guys can some1 assist me w/ java
[06:22] <Raliegh> Oh, that's useful knowledge.
[06:22] <demonboy> i think i did it right but how do i get my browser to see i updated it
[06:23] <demonboy> because now runescape says i dont have java
[06:23] <demonboy> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_03-b04)
[06:23] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: if restarting your browser doesn't make it recognise it, you probably did it wrong (or are using a minimalistic browser)
[06:23] <demonboy> thts what i get when i type java -version
[06:23] <demonboy> im using chrome
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp you may just have an out of date version that runescape doesn't like
[06:24] <demonboy> well i have had this issue all day.. it started out tht iced tea was making runescape crash my browser
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: wait. iced tea is flash, not java
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> BIG difference
[06:25] <Raliegh> Darwin, that grep command simply listed every single file in that directory.
[06:25] <demonboy> so i took off iced tea and installed jdk7u3and jre 7u3
[06:25] <Raliegh> Do you perhaps know which one I should specifically look in for terminated processes w/ error?
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: type the command into irc exactly like you did into the terminal (copy/paste if possible)
[06:25] <demonboy> well iced tea was causing the issue
[06:26] <demonboy> i removed it and runescape no longer caused my broser to crash
[06:26] <Raliegh> sudo grep -R 19577 /var/log/*
[06:26] <demonboy> now instead it says i do not have java installed
[06:26] <Raliegh> Though I'm already running as root, so sudo wasn't entirely necessary, but makes no difference, heh.
[06:26] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor highlight:
[06:27] <Raliegh> I can Pastebin the output if you would like.
[06:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: add --color to the end and it will hilight instances of the PID
[06:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: if --color doesn't help, then pastebin it
[06:28] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: that means you have java installed, but not the java PLUGIN
[06:28] <sacarlson> DarwinSurvivor: I think your mistaken about icedtea  it's a opensource java replacement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
[06:28] <demonboy> see i knew i was missing something
[06:28] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: what did you do to install java (package names)
[06:28] <demonboy> i purged my system of java stuff earlier
[06:28] <phani> Hi can someone help with an encrypted hard drive.. I am using lucid 10.04 version .. I have connected external encrypted lucid hard drive on another lucid laptop but I am unable to mount it .. when I try to mount it I get error as :  mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[06:28] <phani> mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[06:28] <demonboy> uhm... lots
[06:29] <demonboy> as i said i had this issue all day its now 1 am
[06:29] <demonboy> of the next day
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: nvm, you are right. must have been thinking of one of the other packages. either way, you are missing the *plugin*
[06:29] <demonboy> i just got java to this Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_03-b04)
[06:29] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor: The only thing being highlighted is the command for some reason. Let me Pastebin it.
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: ok, do that
[06:30] <phani> if I try to mount it via GUI it says :  Not a mountable file system
[06:30] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/shW8457y
[06:30] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: please tell us *exactly* how you installed the current java. Did you use apt-get, software center, the binary installer?
[06:30] <sacarlson> demonboy: I don't know much about chrome but in firefox I had to manualy fix my java plugin to fix it
[06:30] <jaypro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID lists instruction on installing as raid 1 with ubuntu server, but how do you do it with ubuntu DESKTOP?
[06:31] <jaypro> there is a different window
[06:31] <jaypro> different installation menu
[06:31] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: ok, that pastebin makes sense. When you type "/var/log/*" in the console, bash expands that to everything the "*" matches and sends *that* to sudo.
[06:32] <demonboy_> idk what happened but it was weird
[06:32] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: the output shows me that the only thing that logged that id number was the grep command itself (in the auth log that logs sudo commands).
[06:32] <demonboy_> and as i said i have the jre and the jdk installed
[06:32] <Raliegh> Mhmm.
[06:32] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: long story short, there are no relevant logs with that PID in them :(
[06:32] <demonboy_> hoow must i go about intalling the plugin?
[06:32] <jaypro> anyone?
[06:32] <Raliegh> That's odd... There's GOT to figure out a way why it's terminating this.
[06:32] <Raliegh> D:
[06:33] <ssiie> anyone know
[06:33] <ssiie> what's the easiest way to tranfers file between 2 ubuntu pc ?
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: i recommend trying one of the shoutcast hangouts (irc, forums, etc). They will have MUCH better troubleshooting ideas than we will
[06:33] <demonboy_> i did not quit
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ssiie: anyone know what?
[06:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ssiie: nvm
[06:34] <ssiie> what's the easiest way to tranfers file between 2 ubuntu pc ?
[06:34] <Bragex9> help! my system has all of a sudden started to crash programs randomly. It happens all the time. And I have to start the crashed program all over, and it works fine for like 10 minutes before it crashes again..... what can be wrong here?
[06:35] <ssiie> wwwhoooooooooo know ?
[06:35] <jaypro> ssiie open nautilus, hit control L, type "ssh://<ip of other ubuntu computer>"
[06:35] <ssiie> whre is this nautilus ?
[06:35] <jaypro> ssiiee, then open second window by pressing f3
[06:35] <kuaileshi> sd
[06:35] <sacarlson> ssiie: I prefer to use ssh in nautilus to tranfer files between ubuntu systems,  just need to have apt-get install ssh ; installed on each side
[06:35] <jaypro> nautilus... it's the file explorer
[06:35] <Raliegh> Well thanks a lot for the help so far Darwin~ <3
[06:35] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy_: do you have "openjdk-6-jre" (*exactly* as I typed it) installed?
[06:36] <demonboy_> uhm... idr... whats the command that list all the java stuff installed i cant recall it atm
[06:36] <demonboy_> im like stupidly tired
[06:36] <sidd_mak> kernel compilation is failing when it is compiling some network driver.... whether it is possible to resume the compilation from were it got stopped after i exclude the driver from menuconfig??
[06:37] <jaypro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID lists instruction on installing as raid 1 with ubuntu server, but how do you do it with ubuntu DESKTOP? there's a different installation window
[06:37] <sacarlson> demonboy_: you might see it installed checked in synaptic
[06:37] <kuaileshi> 欢迎
[06:37] <DarwinSurvivor> jaypro: is this a new install or are you adding a raid system to an existing setup?
[06:37] <jaypro> DarwinSurvivor> new install
[06:38] <jaypro> DarwinSurvivor> i've done it on a server, but set up looks different on a desktop
[06:38] <DarwinSurvivor> jaypro: then follow the instructions using the "alternate install disk" as the page says to
[06:38] <jaypro> lol... guess i missed it... let me check
[06:39] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy_: "dpkg -l | grep jdk" (that's a vertical pipe, not an I)
[06:39] <DropsOfSerenity> is there any way to remove the blue tint in flash player without disabling hardware acceleration? I get all sorts of problems If I disable it..
[06:39] <sacarlson> jaypro: as long as you don't boot off your raid it shouldn't be a problem,  otherwise it's a bit tricky to install a raid from a desktop install iso as the initrd don't have some stuf
[06:39] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has asked a question and not gotten a response yet, please repost the question now
[06:40] <jaypro> sacarlson.. i see..
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> DropsOfSerenity: i've never heard of the "blue tint". Is this a common problem or something?
[06:41] <DropsOfSerenity> DarwinSurvivor, ever since the latest flash update, just google blue tint ubuntu flash, and you'll see it's one of the top asked questions this month.
[06:41] <demonboy> there is a command though tht will list all things related to java that i have installed
[06:42] <DropsOfSerenity> and since adobe dropped flash for linux theres no chance they will fix it..
[06:42] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: that's the dpkg command I posted a little while ago, it will list any installed packages with "jdk" in the name
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> DropsOfSerenity: OH, you have the *brand new* one that everyone is complaining about. I recommend just downgrading to the previous one for a while
[06:43] <demonboy> i disconnected and didnt see it
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy_: "dpkg -l | grep jdk" (that's a vertical pipe, not an I)
[06:43] <DropsOfSerenity> DarwinSurvivor, how would I go about downgrading?
[06:43] <ssiie> WHY when i type ssh://... it keep loading but nothing appear ?
[06:43] <Bragex9> my system has all of a sudden started to crash programs randomly. It happens all the time. And I have to start the crashed program all over, and it works fine for like 10 minutes before it crashes again..... what can be wrong here?
[06:43] <sidd_mak> kernel compilation is failing when it is compiling some network driver.... whether it is possible to resume the compilation from were it got stopped after i exclude the driver from menuconfig??
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> DropsOfSerenity: how did you upgrade? Did you use the package manager or download directly from adobe?
[06:44] <jaypro> sacarlson well, i would like to boot off raid 1... have you seen instructions on doing so?
[06:44] <DropsOfSerenity> DarwinSurvivor, package manager, I might note i'm using 12.04
[06:44] <demonboy> it displays nothing...
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> DropsOfSerenity: please go to #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 questions, they will be the ones with the answers
[06:45] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: then please install "openjdk-6-jre", then restart chrome
[06:45] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java for more info
[06:45] <demonboy> why not 7
[06:45] <jaypro> sacarlson> oh wait... maybe it would be easier to just install raid 1 through ubuntu server, then install ubuntu desktop at the terminal... same results?
[06:46] <osirisx11> new install.. bluetooth logitech mx5500 keyboard will let me use all keys except alt. any ideas?
[06:46] <urbancommando> demonboy java -version  should list it and tell you the version
[06:46] <osirisx11> oh actually i can use alt, but not alt-tab
[06:47] <sacarlson> jaypro: ya you can install a desktop with the server alternate disk
[06:47] <DropsOfSerenity> DarwinSurvivor, as far as I know this is a 11.10 problem too, and therefore a general ubuntu problem, oneiric has the same version of flash in their repo's, i'm asking how can I downgrade to a previous version
[06:48] <jaypro> sacarlson> whats the difference if i try to set it up through ubuntu desktop?
[06:48] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7 because oracle never released proper binaries for package managers to use
[06:48] <demonboy> ah ok
[06:48] <sacarlson> jaypro: it's just a bit tricky to create your own custom initrd and chroot at install time to place it
[06:49] <demonboy> openjdk-6-jre-lib this is installed
[06:49] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: if you want to use 7, you must install it manually. otherwise you are stuck with 6
[06:49] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: you need the one *without* -lib at the end
[06:50] <sacarlson> jaypro: there are links that show the method but I wouldn't bother unless you have a very slow internet and it take a long time to download the alternate disk
[06:50] <demonboy> tht one is installed too
[06:50] <Cfhowlett> Drop
[06:53] <shawn186> hello
[06:53] <LeroyJ> oh hye
[06:53] <Bragex9> here is a person with the same problem as me: http. Looks like it is a kernel problem, and that the solution is to roll back to a previous version. But how do I do that? //askubuntu.com/questions/118607/multiple-programs-crash-at-random
[06:53] <shawn186> how do I upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS?
[06:54] <demonboy> u dont want 12.04
[06:54] <LeroyJ> i think it needs to come out first shawn186 ?
[06:54] <demonboy> trust me
[06:55] <shawn186> people already told me it has been out
[06:55] <shawn186> and that I am using an old distro 10.04
[06:56] <LeroyJ> shawn186: are you using for a desktop or server?
[06:57] <shawn186> desktop replacement laptop
[06:57] <shawn186> has high quality hardware
[06:57] <LeroyJ> i think 10.04 is latest stable LTS, and 11.10 is newest. anything else must be beta
[06:58] <shawn186> oh
[06:58] <shawn186> i am just a noob >.<
[06:58] <LeroyJ> i was running 11.10 and went back to 10.04
[06:58] <shawn186> trying to migrate to linux
[06:59] <shawn186> they told me i'm going to have CPU pitfalls if i don't upgrade
[07:00] <worm> Excuse me, something wrong happened when I was installing glib. When I try to configure pango, it said that could not enable any of FreeType X11 Cairo or Win32 backends.
[07:00] <demonboy> DarwinSurvivor: how the package u said is installed what now?
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: did you just install it, or was it already installed before?
[07:01] <demonboy> already installed
[07:01] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: can you post the output of "dpkg -l" using pastebin?
[07:02] <DarwinSurvivor> that's "l" as in Larry
[07:03] <demonboy> u cant see all the list
[07:03] <demonboy> all thts there is l-z
[07:03] <demonboy> a-k isnt there
[07:03] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: try "dpkg -l > file.txt", then open file.txt and copy/paste *that* into pastebin
[07:04] <demonboy> where does it write the file to?
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: what-ever directory you are in (defaults to your home folder)
[07:05] <urbancommando> demonboy, it writes to the current directory you are currently in.
[07:05] <demonboy> i know i found it lol
[07:06] <canadacow> exit
[07:06] <demonboy> DarwinSurvivor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917080/
[07:06] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, are you available to help me 1on1 for a moment in query? I figured out my issue.
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: best to keep it in here so anyone else that may have ideas can help as well
[07:08] <demonboy> so im reinstalling tht package u told me as i see it is indeed NOT installed
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: what did you figure out about your issue?
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: I thought so since nothing showed up in "dpkg -l | grep jdk" ;)
[07:09] <Raliegh> It's my start/stop script. The two services aren't cancelling each other out, but rather the script that I use across all my shoutcast processes. I can't really make heads or tails of the script, however, to pinpoint the issue, and I still don't understand why it's only conflicting 2/5
[07:09] <demonboy> it looked like it was from synaptic but it wasnt
[07:10] <demonboy> and i just got an error about oracle 7...
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: ok, install it then let us know if it works
[07:10] <demonboy> while installing 6 o.O
[07:10] <Raliegh> Like if I just use "/etc/init.d/script" start for both of the servers (The same script, different filenames/directory variables) they start fine. But I restart one of the two having issues, it closes the other.
[07:10] <Raliegh> Like they're sharing a PID or something, which they shouldn't be.
[07:10] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: yes, openjdk-6-jre and orcale 7 (java7) will probably conflict, you will need to remove 7 first (apt will probably do it for you though)
[07:11] <demonboy> it says that all the files werent installed..
[07:11] <demonboy> how do i remove 7 -_-
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: are these the scripts that were installed with the package, or something custom?
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: how did you *install* it?
[07:11] <demonboy> tar ball...
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: oh dear sweet jesus
[07:11] <shawn186> is their an IDT integrated audio driver for ubuntu?
[07:12] <demonboy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: please post a link to the instructions you followed
[07:12] <Raliegh> Custom DarwinSurvivor, there are no shoutcast packages for Ubuntu. Everything is custom. I can Pastebin it for you if you want... But you won't be able to pinpoint the ideas I don't think. And to properly explain how I have it running would spam this channel, hence why I requested a query.
[07:12] <demonboy> darwin i followed tht guid
[07:12] <demonboy> one step ahead of u darwin
[07:13] <demonboy> grant r u currently present in here...
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: there is no guide, only links to askubuntu pages which each have multiple suggestions. please be more specific
[07:14] <demonboy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[07:14] <demonboy> scroll down
[07:14] <demonboy> the very 1st 1
[07:14] <demonboy> w/ 67 reps
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: go ahead and post the script, I'm fairly good at following "obtuse" shell scripts. You're probably going to have to ask in a shoutcast specific channel/forum (the one that hosted the original instructions you followed if possible) if it's any kind of bug or something
[07:16] <demonboy> darwin ima use synaptic to remove oracle java 7
[07:17] <Raliegh> It shouldn't be a bug, it's most definitely a problem with the script, which is fairly common for starting/stopping programs. I'll Pastebin it with a small explanation. I have multiple copies of these scripts (shoutcast 1, shoutcast 2, etc. etc.) in my /etc/init.d folder.
[07:17] <demonboy> nevermind some error about a removal script popped up...
[07:17] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/kNAZWAUz
[07:17] <urbancommando> Would you like a ticket open Darwin? lol
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html (which is linked to on the page you posted) has uninstall directions.
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: it *also* has instructions for installing the java 7 *plugin*, so take you pick :D
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> you can either continue with java 7 and follow the plugin instructions on that page, or follow the "revert" instructions and install java 6.
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: if you install the java 7 plugin, PLEASE bookmark that page in case you ever need to uninstall it since the package manager will not be able to (thus the revert instructions)
[07:20] <demonboy> lol
[07:20] <demonboy> i think ill try the plugin
[07:20] <demonboy> if not ill do the revert
[07:20] <demonboy> since it seems i installed 7 already
[07:21] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: that's why I asked you "what did you do to install java (package names)" I suspected a tarball install, and those are notorious for going sideways
[07:22] <demonboy> ah... well i installed the tar ball not the plugin
[07:22] <demonboy> so i believe tht is my problem.. not only tht i purged my system of all java b4 the install
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: the plugin is included in the tarball, but needs to be copied to the mozilla plugins directory of *each* user that wants to use java. One of the benefits of sticking with the repo version ;)
[07:23] <demonboy> hmm
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> actually purging all other java stuff was a GOOD thing, it prevents conflicts
[07:23] <sacarlson> Raliegh: would xmms-liveice  be a good alternative to a shoutcast server?
[07:23] <demonboy> will runescape run w/ the repo version?
[07:23] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor: You got the link right?
[07:23] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: only 1 way to find out :)
[07:24] <demonboy> lol
[07:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: yep, reading it now
[07:24] <Raliegh> sacarlson I personally prefer Icecast (liveice is a derivative if I'm remembering correctly) but so many programs are shoutcast-only compatible.
[07:24] <Raliegh> So it depends on your useage. I personally run both.
[07:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: do you use the same script for each server, or one each?
[07:25] <Raliegh> One each Darwin, but with the same contents.
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> if it's one each, please post all of them. You may have an overlap you're not seeing. May just need some fresh eyes
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: well *something* must be different, or they'd all launch the Beary server
[07:26] <Raliegh> The two names/server that are conflicting are named "wicked" and "shoutcast" respectively. They have the same exact contents in ALL the scripts (sans the location variable obviously, which are all properly set right as they all start fine)
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: so the "CONFIG" and "DAEMON" lines are different?
[07:28] <demonboy> ok so darwin oracle 7 is being weird w/ the uninstall
[07:29] <Chib> just installed ubuntu, could anyone please direct me to where i can customise things like the dock and the bar along the top? can't seem to right click or find anything in system settings
[07:29] <Raliegh> Yes.
[07:29] <Raliegh> Sorry for delayed reply, yes they are DarwinSurvivor
[07:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: and I'm assuming all the CONFIG files are at least slightly different?
[07:31] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: please be more specific (error messages, etc)
[07:31] <Raliegh> Yes, of course. They are all running off different ports (at least 30 port sizes away, even though it requires only two) with different passwords and whatnot for my clients.
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> Chib: unity is not very customizable at this point
[07:32] <demonboy> Errors were encountered while processing:  oracle-java7-installer E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: and which command returned that error?
[07:33] <demonboy> its the same error when i use synaptc to remove it
[07:34] <demonboy>  sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk icedtea-plugin
[07:34] <Chib> oh, thanks for the info, is 12.04 any better than 11.10 in that regard?
[07:36] <DarwinSurvivor> Chib: not that I *know* of.
[07:37] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: don't install both, just install openjdk-6-jre OR icedtea-plugin. simplifies things and avoids conflicts (and browser configuration)
[07:39] <demonboy> but thts what the thing u linkred me to says to do...
[07:40] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: sorry, yes, you're right
[07:41] <DarwinSurvivor> did you get any errors while following the "revert" instructions on http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html ?
[07:41] <DarwinSurvivor> of only when trying to install java 6 afterwards?
[07:43] <Chib> hmm, can i replace unity with something else then?
[07:43] <bazhang> !notunity | Chib
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: I'm fairly certain you have a typo or an overlap between your config files. If you like, you can post them and I'll take a look for anything that may be the same that shouldn't be (feel free to **** passwords/etc)
[07:43] <Chib> cheers
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: my guess is 2 fields that should be different between the 2 configs are in fact the same, so the daemon is treating them as 1 server at some point
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> if you start "wicked" then try to stop "shoutcast", does it error out or shut down "wicked" by mistake? (also try the inverse)
[07:50] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, sorry for the delay, was changing. Anyways, no, they've got the proper directories set. I know this because I can run "/etc/init.d/start shoutcast" and "/etc/init.d/start wicked" separately and they start the respective servers (verifiable by checking web-access).
[07:50] <Raliegh> However, to alleviate any possibility, I will post them both. You already have one.
[07:51] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/DSqfLR9f
[07:51] <Raliegh> That is the second.
[07:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: could you post the configs? If there's a slight overlap, it may start/stop each fine, but interpret the other as an instance of the current one and kill it for some reason
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> basically the classic "My computer thinks it's smarter than me" scenerio
[07:58] <sacarlson> Raliegh: so you can't run the both at the same time?  maybe they are using the same ip port number?
[07:59] <Raliegh> No sacarlson, I CAN run them both at the same time.
[08:00] <Raliegh> Using those scripts, but NOT the "restart" section of it.
[08:00] <Raliegh> However if I "restart" one, it kills the other.
[08:01] <Raliegh> I would assume the same with "stop", since that is all that differes from "restart" and "start"
[08:01] <Raliegh> Let me test anyhow.
[08:01] <DarwinSurvivor> good thing to test
[08:01] <Raliegh> Yes, that is it. When I stop one it stops both.
[08:01] <Raliegh> Like they're running off the same darn PID or something.
[08:02] <Raliegh> Let me post the two configs. Will take some time~
[08:03] <Raliegh> One:
[08:03] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/LNiYpbua
[08:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: could you post one of the init scripts that works correctly?
[08:04] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/s1QgyBTy
[08:04] <Raliegh> Two.
[08:04] <Raliegh> They all work correctly Darwin, but sure.
[08:04] <Raliegh> Well, sans the stop I guess.
[08:05] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/BSWYU4E0
[08:05] <Raliegh> Working~
[08:05] <sacarlson> Raliegh: it apears this line kill -9 `ps -C sc_serv -o pid --no-headers` ; doesn't use the varible $DAEMON , I don't know how that compares with the other script
[08:05] <Raliegh> I just linked the other sir~
[08:06] <sacarlson> Raliegh: the other apears to be a config
[08:06] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/BSWYU4E0
[08:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: could you start up a bunch of them and post the output of "ps -C sc_serv -o pid --no-headers" ?
[08:07] <Raliegh> I can start two of them, the two having issues, but I'm not messing with one of the three working ones, you never know when someone will hop on.
[08:08] <leftsumo> hello i just installed ubuntu on a virtual machine and am trying to edit the sources.list file but keep getting told that i don't have permission to edit this file. how can i change this? i already tried changing permissions through terminal but still nothing
[08:08] <bjhaid> I tried setting up an adhoc connection on my ubuntu machine to share internet access with my tablet, but yet I cant see the ssid come up on the list of available networks, please can anyone help here
[08:08] <diverdude> How can i see if my computer has usb2 or usb3?
[08:08] <kuaileshi> How to install the Oracle 11Ubuntu11.10?
[08:09] <bjhaid> leftsumo: at your terminal do sudo vi sources.list
[08:09] <bjhaid> and you edit it with vi
[08:09] <Raliegh> Starting one gave me 20414, starting the other gave me 20414 AND 20443.
[08:10] <sacarlson> leftsumo: you should be able to use sudo gedit <filename> to modify your sources.list file
[08:11] <sacarlson> leftsumo: also synaptic gui has methods to change the sources.list
[08:11] <roadrash1965> hey room
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: what do you get if you run that command directly from the terminal?
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> from looking at your *working* init script, THAT one shouldn't work either
[08:11] <Raliegh> Uhh... I get what I just said Darwin4Ever
[08:11] <Raliegh> FUCK
[08:12] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor
[08:12] <FloodBot1> Raliegh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <sacarlson> leftsumo: opps and I guess you should use gksudo gedit <filename> sorry
[08:12] <leftsumo> bjhaid: sacarlson: thanks for you help. trying them out now
[08:13] <DarwinSurvivor> notice that the working one uses sc_serv2 (note the 2) in the daemon entry? for your system to work, each init script needs the daemon entry to have a *unique* filename that it executes, that unique filename then needs to be added to the "ps" entries under both stop and restart
[08:13] <Raliegh> Woah huh? I didn't even notice the two. However, 4/5 of them are the same (with no appending number) why aren't they tossing issues?
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: example: see http://pastebin.com/W5StdvuR where I added the 3's (there are 3 of them) after each sc_serv? each init script should use a different number. and you will need to rename the daemons of course
[08:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: they SHOULD be tossing issues!
[08:15] <DarwinSurvivor> the "correct" one you posted should not be able to stop itself, instead it should will try to stop "shoutcast" and Beary
[08:15] <Raliegh> Hmm, let me try that! It's crazy that they aren't though, haha.
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> most systems use a PID file that the init script writes during "start" and reads during "stop" (and reads, then overwrites during restart) to know which one to kill
[08:18] <DarwinSurvivor> by "system" I mean server daemons
[08:18] <leftsumo> sacarlson: thanks! finally got it
[08:19] <sacarlson> leftsumo: cool and be careful in those changes as you can break things if you try to mix the wrong repo's
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> shoutcast probably supports an internal PID system, but you could always write it directly into the init script using $! or similar
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has a question and has not gotten a response yet, please re-post the question now
[08:21] <DarwinSurvivor> sometimes questions get missed in the scrollback
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: how comfortable are you with bash scripting (what the init scripts are written in)?
[08:26] <DarwinSurvivor> kuaileshi: please use this channel for chatting instead of direct messages
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> demonboy: did you resolve your issue?
[08:44] <tafelpoot> is there a way to make sure some processes don't get killed when a system gets overloaded?
[08:44] <tafelpoot> the problem is that init has been killed a few times (well, that's what I presume)
[08:45] <Jordan_U> tafelpoot: The OOM killer will never kill init. It's smarter than that.
[08:45] <tafelpoot> hmmm then there is another problem
[08:45] <mogaj> how to install gimp in ubuntu 11.10?
[08:45] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: what makes you think something is killing stuff due to overloading? usually the system will just grind to a halt if it runs out of memory or stop spawning new processes if it runs out of pids
[08:46] <tafelpoot> my server becomes unloginable (can't reach it via ssh of login via keyboard)
[08:46] <tafelpoot> but mysql keeps going and working correctly
[08:46] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: go into the software center, search for "gimp", click "install", wait 2-5 minutes (depending on network connection), done
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: can you ping it?
[08:47] <tafelpoot> yup
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: how long does it take the system to reach this "unlogginable" poing?
[08:47] <tafelpoot> depends
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> and what does "nmap <remote_server>" show?
[08:48] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: didn't try nmap (and I dont have a server in that state at the moment)
[08:48] <tafelpoot> but he still listens on the ssh port
[08:48] <mogaj> When am trying to install gimp from software center am getting this message "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:48] <mogaj> gimp: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.8.0) but 2.24.0-2 is to be installed
[08:48] <mogaj>       Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[08:48] <mogaj>       Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.8.0) but 2.8.0-3ubuntu2 is to be installed
[08:48] <mogaj>       Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0) but 2.24.0-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:48] <mogaj>       Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.2) but 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[08:48] <FloodBot1> mogaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: log in via ssh and KEEP that session alive until it crashes. also keep a local login logged in. those sessions *should* remain open after any over-consumption of resources
[08:49] <mogaj> i will careful
[08:49] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: it just hangs, I don't get a connection refused... I just get nothing
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> i'd recommend running top in the local one to keep an eye on ram and cpu usage. even if the system 100% locks up, the last frame of top's output should still be visible for inspection
[08:50] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: that's what I did now... started a screen on another server whith ssh sessions to thos
[08:50] <llutz> mogaj: do you use some ppa for gimp or the one from standard-repo?
[08:50] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: ok I'll start the top
[08:50] <piloti> On Thursday the 5th of April my laptop 'auto' downloaded the latest 'update'. This I noticed included a new kernel and some other stuff. I did not make as note of what was downloaded. There was also a 'new' version of Thunderbird.
[08:50] <piloti> Since then, I have had the following problems :
[08:50] <piloti> My screen will sometimes go blank, for 30 – 45 seconds, sometimes a little longer [ I am still running applications, such as web / sip etc.]
[08:50] <piloti> When I shut down and re-started [the next day : today] my desktop is different.
[08:50] <FloodBot1> piloti: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <piloti> 1 : Now, the 'unity' task back on the left has disappeared and I can not make it work.
[08:50] <piloti> 2 : the clock, battery wireless indicator etc, from the top right corner have all gone.
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: also, do you have ANY ppa's installed at all? I've seen some PPA's cause that kind of issue before
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: create a new user (as a test user) and see if that user's desktop appears normal
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: if it does, you will simply need to purge your unity/gnome settings (which will reset your wallpaper/applets/theme)
[08:52] <mogaj> While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/  My OS ubuntu 11.10
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: keep an eye on that top session, particularly look for any numbers in the header (above the list) that is incrementing on a regular basis!
[08:52] <piloti> Hi.  am using a 'guest' on my laptop and this is fine. All as it should be.
[08:53] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: are you running unity?
[08:53] <piloti> Yes.
[08:54] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, that fixed everything. I award you my gratitude, and your choice of a cookie or hug. Neither you will probably take.
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: run "unity --reset; rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.conf/gnome*"
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: in the account of your problematic user of course
[08:55] <piloti> OK, Do I do this in my main profile [the one having the problems] or from the guest ?
[08:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: no problem, glad i could help. If you want to get fancy, you can look into recording PID's (using $!), but I wouldn't worry about it if it's working now
[08:56] <DarwinSurvivor> piloti: the one having problems
[08:56] <Raliegh> To be honest that's what I thought it did. Renaming all these will be a pain for future clients, but... Bearable.
[08:56] <piloti> ok. I'll need to skedaddle, log of, and try again. If you don't seem me again, it has worked. Thanks for that DS.
[08:57] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: thanks for the help... now hope I will be able to catch the problem
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: if you are going to be using a fair number of streams, using PID files will allow you to use 1 DAEMON program (you currently have 1 binary PER stream) and simply record the pid for each instance and kill them that way
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> tafelpoot: no problem. also comb through the logs in /var/log and see if anything pops up (dmesg in particular)
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: PID's will take a little work to set up, but afterwards adding a stream will take nothing more than changing 1 entry in the init script and creating a new config (you could even put all the configs in 1 directory)
[09:01] <Raliegh> Any documentation on this Darwin? It sounds extremely useful.
[09:02] <Raliegh> Oh, also, slightly unreleated... But do you know of a way to code a simple script (that can't be read/is obfuscated) that can SSH so my clients can run the restart command?
[09:02] <Raliegh> I can't really use SSH keys since the IP will be different all the time, and that requires access on their PC to set up.
[09:03] <jrib> Raliegh: I don't understand why you can't use ssh
[09:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: so you want someone to have the ability to start/stop a stream remotely without being able to do anything else?
[09:03] <llutz> Raliegh: if IPs change, use "CheckHostIP no" in ~/.ssh/config for that host
[09:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: if your ip's keep changing, how are they finding the streams?
[09:04] <DarwinSurvivor> just set up a dynamic dns account (dyn-dns, freedns, etc) and have them use that to ssh into, then the ssh client will relate the key to the hostname, not the ip address :D
[09:05] <Raliegh> Yes llutz, that is precisely what I want. I simply want them to be able to SSH in, run "/etc/init.d/xxxx restart"
[09:05] <georgelappies> if I downloaded an ISO but somewhere it is corrupt, which rsync command can I use to sync it so it downloads only the parts it needs to fix?
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> georgelappies: "rsync <remote_url_of_iso> <local_copy_of_iso>"
[09:06] <llutz> Raliegh: you want to read ssh-documentation about forced commands i guess.
[09:06] <Jordan_U> georgelappies: If they provide a zsync file (which Ubuntu mirrors do) you can use zsync with any regular http mirror as well.
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: you could also set up the sudoers file so anyone in the "streamFOO" group could run the init script for stream FOO
[09:07] <joginder> how can we add new users?
[09:07] <llutz> joginder: sudo adduser username
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: how many streams are you looking to run, and how many users would be allowed to restart each one (1 user per stream, a few, anyone one the internet, etc)?
[09:08] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: or go into system settings -> users and groups -> unlock -> add user
[09:08] <Raliegh> Darwin, won't that require them to connect to it with a program? If possible I want to keep this script standalone.
[09:09] <joginder> how we can list the display of users already created?
[09:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: are they all using linux? because otherwise it's not really going to be able to be done with 1 script
[09:09] <llutz> joginder: getent passwd
[09:10] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: for a cleaner output "getent passwd | cut -d: -f1"
[09:10] <joginder> how can can list the users in graphical mode?
[09:11] <Raliegh> No, they aren't sadly.
[09:11] <Raliegh> Mostly Windows, and MacOSX.
[09:11] <joginder> how we can list the display of users in graphical view?
[09:11] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: go to "system settings" -> "users and group". that will only list desktop users though, but that's probably all you want anyways
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: well, linux and macOS are fairly simple since you just ask them to install the ssh client, then write a 2 line bash script to log in and run it.
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: for windows they'll need to use something like Putty
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: hold on, why would they need to run the restart command?
[09:13] <llutz> Raliegh: i haven't followed your whole issue, but maybe this might help http://binblog.info/2008/10/20/openssh-going-flexible-with-forced-commands/
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: start/stop I could kind of understand, but why restart?
[09:13] <joginder> how we can download the new wallpapers?
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: I have a funny feeling you're trying to do something the hard way...
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: what new wallpapers?
[09:14] <joginder> new wallpapers means desktop backgrounds.
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: yes I know that, but what *new* ones?
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: could you post a link/etc?
[09:15] <nlici> good day
[09:15] <nlici> can i have a help please
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: good day and welcome to the #ubuntu channel
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: don's ask to ask, just ask :)
[09:15] <nlici> trying to download Avast to my 10.11
[09:16] <nlici> sorry 11.10
[09:16] <nlici> tar.gaz. file
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: the anti-virus program...?
[09:16] <nlici> yes
[09:16] <nlici> i download it
[09:16] <nlici> from the site
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: why do you need an anti-virus program?
[09:16] <nlici> i am a new user
[09:16] <joginder> please give a link for installing motions background screens.
[09:16] <nlici> they told me in some cases linux can be infacted as well
[09:17] <llutz> nlici: not by virusses those snakeoil-software would find
[09:17] <GVolkmann> nlici: don't download garbage and install, only install from the repos, keep your system updated,  you'll be fine :)
[09:18] <joginder> give me a link for installing new screen backgrounds
[09:18] <GVolkmann> (garbage meaning...avast,  or packages on internet)
[09:18] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: are there any backgrounds in particular that you want (new Maverick ones, etc) or just some backgrounds in general?
[09:18] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, I want them to run the restart command because sometimes the streams quit and terminate for various reasons. If I'm not online to restart it FOR them, and they have a planned event... I get yelled at, and lowered reputation.
[09:19] <Raliegh> I'll be reading that llutz, thank you.
[09:19] <joginder> what is the command to delete a user?
[09:19] <llutz> joginder: sudo deluser username
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: do you know what is causing them to die in the first place?
[09:19] <Raliegh> Also, DarwinSurvivor, I ship for basic in a week and a half. I won't be around for a looong time if this happens. Sure, I'm passing temp controls to a close friend, but I still want my clients to be able to restart their stream when applicable.
[09:20] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, it rarely happens, but it does happen. Sometimes it's some silly Shoutcast bugs (like Windows XP using VDJ not sending proper icy headers), sometimes it's simply a small DDoS attack (rare, but does occur)
[09:21] <Raliegh> There are various reasons, and I want my clients to be prepared and able to fix it when it does.
[09:21] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: you are not going to find a script that does what the ssh client does, so you are going to either need to have the server restart the streams automatically (cron job, watcher daemon, etc) or create some kind of interface for doing it (you could build it into a simple PHP page if you like).
[09:21] <joginder> command to create a new user?
[09:22] <llutz> joginder: you have been told
[09:23] <joginder> when i am creating a new user then it is asking for a unix password why?
[09:23] <nlici> OK
[09:23] <Raliegh> Woah wait, there's a way to have them restart automatically? I MUST know about this. If it is above my capabilities, I will pay for it to be done.
[09:24] <llutz> joginder: because a user should have a password
[09:25] <nlici> THANKS
[09:26] <nlici> every advice counts
[09:26] <joginder> what is the command to add new user with password?
[09:27] <Raliegh> adduser
[09:27] <Raliegh> I think
[09:27] <Raliegh> Or it's useradd
[09:27] <nlici> @Gvolkman thanks
[09:27] <Raliegh> One of the two.
[09:27] <schnuffle> joginder: there's a -b option to give the password in the command
[09:27] <FloodBot1> Raliegh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <Raliegh> Yeah yeah Mr. Bot.
[09:27] <nlici> @llulz thanks
[09:27] <thunder1212> my laptop does not shut down please help identify what the issue could be..
[09:27] <nlici> @darvinj thanks
[09:28] <jrib> joginder: use « adduser »
[09:28] <llutz> joginder: why don't you just follow the "adduser" output?
[09:28] <llutz> joginder: it asks all infor you basically need
[09:28] <DarwinSurvivor> adduser is an interactive prompt (it asks questions), useradd wants all the details as command line options. (I belive adduser actually calls useradd after asking the questions).
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: how long of a pause between crash and restart is acceptable?
[09:29] <mogaj> please guide me While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> are we talking miliseconds, seconds, minutes or 5-10 minutes?
[09:29] <schnuffle> oops,the -b option is different on linux
[09:29] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: once again, have you installed *ANY* PPA's?
[09:30] <joginder> how to switch to the rootuser?
[09:30] <llutz> !sudo | joginder
[09:30] <Raliegh> Darwin~ Anytime under 2 minutes preferable. Doesn't really matter.
[09:30] <schnuffle> joginder: use sudo
[09:30] <thunder1212> joginder: su root
[09:30] <ryanyeah> joginder: su -
[09:30] <llutz> thunder1212: fail
[09:30] <llutz> ryanyeah: fail too
[09:30] <nlici> another question
[09:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: are you familiar with cron/crontab?
[09:30] <schnuffle> thunder1212: that'snot working as the root account is disbaled by default
[09:30] <nlici> i have android
[09:30] <nlici> i download jump remote desctop control
[09:30] <ryanyeah> llutz: what you talking about?
[09:31] <thunder1212> schnuffle: then do sudo passwd
[09:31] <Oxygen02> Hello guys. I Having a problem with qemu/kvm. I don't really know where the problem relies. but this is the error. I also asked at #qemu.
[09:31] <nlici> i made the settings of remoite control i enabled it ]
[09:31] <llutz> ryanyeah: su - fails with a disabled root-account, which is default at *buntu
[09:31] <nlici> but still i can not able to acces
[09:31] <nlici> what can be the problem
[09:31] <Oxygen02> error: Failed to start domain hk-mysql2
[09:31] <nlici> any help about it ?
[09:31] <schnuffle> thunder1212: then you activated your account without any need to do so
[09:31] <Oxygen02> error: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[09:31] <Oxygen02> Using ubuntu 10.0.4
[09:31] <joginder> i have not allot any password for the root user at the time of installing ubuntu , how i can enter in root user now?
[09:32] <ryanyeah> llutz: he didn't even specify it wasn't disabled. he asked and i answered, so cry more
[09:32] <thunder1212> schnuffle: my laptop does not shut down..
[09:32] <Raliegh> Not in the slightest DarwinSurvivor
[09:32] <jrib> ryanyeah: as this is #ubuntu, we should assume the root account is locked.  Please just use the !sudo factoid in the future so users can learn about how ubuntu is setup by default and can decide what they want to do from there
[09:32] <schnuffle> joginder: to give a root passwd use:sudo passwd,but its advied not to do so.normally you don't need to activate.to work as root use sudo -i
[09:32] <GVolkmann> nlici: I suggest keeping your inquiries to a single line. You don't describe what sort of error you are experiencing. My guess, networking. but then again, we don't know what client you are using,  what server you are using (VLC I guess?)..soo, a bit of specificity is requried.
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: WHY do you want to be the root user. 99% of linux users will NEVER need to log in as root, sudo is more than enough. I run 24/7 servers and my root account is deactivated on ALL of them
[09:33] <schnuffle> DarwinSurvivor: +1
[09:33] <nlici> yes youa re right i am sorry
[09:33] <schnuffle> thunder1212:  and what do you want me to do?
[09:33] <dansul> Hello
[09:33] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : donno ... how can i know that?
[09:34] <dansul> Does anyone use ubuntu with gnome-fallback ?
[09:34] <ryanyeah> jrib: so ubuntu has a preference to lock down root because it is a desktop? because all the servers i administrate use root
[09:35] <jrib> ryanyeah: on a default ubuntu (server or dekstop) install, the root account is locked so you can use sudo but can't login as sudo using su for example
[09:35] <schnuffle> ryanyeah: all my servers have root disbaledand stillI can manage them
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: in normal operation, are all your streams running, or do they started and stopped at various times for any reason?
[09:36] <Raliegh> They're always running sir~
[09:36] <vectorshelve> how can I change the desktop Interface of Ubuntu ?
[09:36] <Raliegh> Preferably want to keep it that way.
[09:36] <thunder1212> when i send the shutdown command.. it gets stuck somewhere in between.. and i have to manually shutdown the system by pressing the power button
[09:36] <vectorshelve> from the side task bar to normal.. upper taskbar view ?
[09:36] <jrib> vectorshelve: install your preffered desktop environment's package and then choose at the login screen what type of session you would like to start
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !cron
[09:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !cron Raliegh
[09:37] <georgelappies> does rsync work for the daily images as well?
[09:37] <vectorshelve> jrib: yes by default there will be two right
[09:37] <jrib> vectorshelve: hmm, which two?
[09:37] <nlici> i download the jumpdescremote control aplication , i had to set it manually first i choose the vnc and enter to adress my static ip  after that i enable the ubuntu for remote but when i am trying to access through my android it gives the same error of "check the computer adress and make sure the computer s firewall is configured to allow incoming remote desktop connections"
[09:37] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, that says times~ I take it that's also encompassing if the process isn't running as well?
[09:38] <joginder> is the redhat linux and ubuntu commands are same?
[09:38] <vectorshelve> jrib: I just need the very normal interface
[09:38] <jrib> joginder: not all
[09:38] <vectorshelve> jrib: remove the unity interface
[09:38] <jrib> vectorshelve: unity is the "normal" (default) interface
[09:39] <joginder> how much percent ubuntu commands are similar like linux?
[09:39] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: what you would want to do is set up a cron job that runs on a regular basis (every minute or 2) that checks if each stream is still running and restarts any that aren't (you can even have it log and/or e-mail you every time it finds one)
[09:39] <vectorshelve> jrib: ok then change it to the other UI...
[09:39] <jrib> joginder: the package management commands will differ
[09:39] <vectorshelve> jrib: which is there in the system... or only unity is there by default in the system ?
[09:39] <jrib> !nounity | vectorshelve
[09:39] <Raliegh> Too sweet. Darwin, if I can't figure out how to do this properly (I seem to be a fan of breaking things) would you care to help me for payment?
[09:39] <schnuffle> Raliegh: an alternqative is monit
[09:40] <vectorshelve> ubottu: mine is ubuntu 10.04
[09:40] <joginder> what is the command to give an ip address ?
[09:40] <jrib> vectorshelve: I'm not aware of another one available by default.  But you can go to your login screen and see what's available for your session type.
[09:40] <jrib> joginder: ip addr
[09:40] <schnuffle> joginder: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:40] <vectorshelve> jrib: ok thanks..
[09:40] <nlici> i download the jumpdescremote control aplication , i had to set it manually first i choose the vnc and enter to adress my static ip  after that i enable the ubuntu for remote but when i am trying to access through my android it gives the same error of "check the computer adress and make sure the computer s firewall is configured to allow incoming remote desktop connections"
[09:41] <joginder> can u tell me a command to give an ip address with example?
[09:41] <jrib> joginder: I just did
[09:41] <joginder> example plz?
[09:41] <jrib> joginder: "ip addr"
[09:41] <RedBunny> can someone tell me why i keep looking my title bar on my programs like folder and ftp ,... they keep disapearing and i cant move them,....?
[09:42] <GVolkmann> nlici: check out how to enable a VNC server on ubuntu, google it. i would imagine that will get you in the right direction.
[09:42] <schnuffle> joginder: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2961
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: !vnc
[09:44] <nlici> OK
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, guess ubottu doesn't know that one :P
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[09:45] <nlici> i am cheking it , thanks for the link
[09:45] <yeats> !vnc
[09:45] <yeats> DarwinSurvivor: the ! has to be first ;-)
[09:46] <joginder> how we can exit from vi editor?
[09:46] <jrib> joginder: <Escape>:q<Enter>
[09:46] <jrib> joginder: you should run « vimtutor » if you want to learn to use vim
[09:47] <Steevca> I have some problems with flash,how do i uninstall it compleatly?
[09:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: vectorshelve has a good point. There are a fair number of applications that do monitoring all on their own. http://mmonit.com/monit/ and http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html seem to be popular.
[09:48] <Steevca> And reinstall it again?
[09:48] <DarwinSurvivor> yeats: ah, my bad :P
[09:48] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: ":q" to quit, ":wq" to save and quit, ":q!" to quit and discard changes
[09:48] <DarwinSurvivor> !vim
[09:49] <DarwinSurvivor> well, that was uninformative...
[09:50] <joginder> how we can display the ip address?
[09:50] <johnm> joginder: "ip addr"
[09:50] <schnuffle> Raliegh: monit is simple and easy to use daemontools is a bit more complicated
[09:50] <Raliegh> DarwinSurvivor, the thing is I don't want to have to install a GUI on my server to use them. However if they work without a GUI I will most certainly take a look at them.
[09:50] <schnuffle> joginder: ifconfig <device>
[09:51] <joginder> how we can enter in the vi editor?
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: you have asked that question 3 times and appear to be asking *completely* random questions. Is there something *specific* you are trying to do?
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: monit uses a web interface (not sure if you consider that a GUI)
[09:51] <joginder> i am sorry but i am new...
[09:51] <Raliegh> Web interfacing is fine. I don't consider that a GUI (even though it really is)
[09:52] <johnm> joginder: you want to change your current IP permanantly? if so "vi /etc/network/interfaces" then "ifdown <interfacename>; ifup <interfacename>" ie: "ifdown eth0"
[09:52] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: would you like a link to a "getting started with ubuntu" tutorial so you can have some fun?
[09:52] <Raliegh> Is this a simple apt-get package in the repositories or do I have to compile source?
[09:52] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: if there's anything in particular you would like to learn (apache, command line, etc), let us know, there are LOTS of tutorials we can point you to
[09:53] <jrib> joginder: what exactly do you want to accomplish?  You keep asking about ip and i'm not sure whether you just want to know what your current ip is or if you want to set a static ip address.
[09:53] <Raliegh> Looks like it is packaged in a repo. Thank goodness, compiling is a pain.
[09:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: monit and daemontools are both in the repos
[09:54] <Raliegh> Woah this is odd.
[09:54] <Raliegh> "apt-get install monit" returns:
[09:54] <Raliegh> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[09:54] <Raliegh> I love faultsts
[09:54] <joginder> how we can give the ip address in single line command?
[09:54] <DarwinSurvivor> never seen a faultsts....
[09:55] <Raliegh> Riiight? What kind of OS has such a bad grammatical error?
[09:55] <Raliegh> It's got me curious.
[09:55] <joginder> how we can give and ip address by single command?
[09:55] <RedBunny> can someone tell me why i keep looking my title bar on my programs like folder and ftp ,... they keep disapearing and i cant move them,....?
[09:55] <RedBunny> loosing,...
[09:55] <Raliegh> Even doing "apt-get install" with no package it tosses a seg fault, but that may be normal.
[09:55] <schnuffle> joginder: I gave you a link
[09:55] <bekks> Raliegh: Works fine here.
[09:56] <joginder> what is the command to see the disk size?
[09:56] <fmauro> RedBunny: what version are you using? what triggers it?
[09:56] <DarwinSurvivor> albertdenou: "sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin" should fix it
[09:57] <joginder> command to display hard disk size?
[09:57] <schnuffle> joginder: df
[09:57] <Raliegh> A reboot fixed it.
[09:57] <Raliegh> Interestingly enough.
[09:57] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh:  then do an apt-get update
[09:57] <nlici> for rdp connection from which link i can able to get help friends?
[09:57] <joginder> thanks
[09:57] <joginder> how we can create the partitions?
[09:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: I would still run the rm command as that error usually points to a corrupted cache file
[09:58] <schnuffle> joginder: fdisk
[09:58] <fmauro> nlici: http://www.rdesktop.org/
[09:58] <joginder> fdisk
[09:58] <Raliegh> I may, but for now it installed properly.
[09:58] <joginder> thanks
[09:58] <Raliegh> But... It doesn't tell you how to configure it.
[09:58] <Raliegh> Nothing on the site either. It just says to configure and THEN edit a file.
[09:59] <l3d> was wondering am i the only one  that can't get to mangler ( a ventrilo client for linux) web site
[09:59] <RedBunny> im using 12.04 ,... and it normally just start after normal use
[09:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Raliegh: http://mmonit.com/monit/documentation/monit.html#the_monit_control_file
[09:59] <bekks> RedBunny: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only
[09:59] <RedBunny> i installed beta 1 but updated fully
[09:59] <joginder> how we can install msoffice in ubuntu?
[09:59] <RedBunny> aye
[09:59] <fmauro> l3d: mangler.org, not loading
[09:59] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[10:00] <bekks> joginder: You cant.
[10:00] <RedBunny> what about wine
[10:00] <bekks> joginder: Ubuntu isnt Windows, you have to install it in wine.
[10:00] <DarwinSurvivor> l3d: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.mangler.org/
[10:00] <kamilnadeem> A friend is having a prob with his wifi and bluetooth on his Hp 430 laptop on which he installed 11.10 3 days back
[10:00] <mogaj> I haven't installed PPA's ... but how do one know if something added or not?? While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[10:00] <GVolkmann> RedBunny: Exactly...you can't :)
[10:00] <Raliegh> Thanks DarwinSurvivor
[10:00] <RedBunny> lol
[10:00] <joginder> is there any chances of virus in ubuntu?
[10:01] <RedBunny> ive been trying for a week to install adobe web premium uinder wine ,.. n l uck yet
[10:01] <joginder> is virus comes in ubuntu?
[10:01] <bekks> joginder: Yes, there are chances. 100% security is impossible.
[10:01] <kamilnadeem> while listneing to a song when i played next song sound stoped working after a restart sound came back but mouse pointer frooze and started working only after restarting two times and after starting the system third time wifi and bluetooth stopped working. When i disable the wifi from the hardware key it says disabled from hardware but when i enable it from my keyboard it says wifi disabled and in does not enable
[10:01] <kamilnadeem> This what he has given me
[10:01] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: very, very, VERY small chance. I think there's been ONE virus that ever managed to propagate between linux machines in the wild
[10:02] <ricardopinto_> If you want Virus you gotta try windows :P
[10:03] <RedBunny> linux and mac are knownfor being virus free is somehtingis goingon its more likely a mis-configuration ,..............
[10:03] <l3d> well still can get it at pkgs.org but working on depend
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: install rfkill , then run "rfkill list" to see what has turned off your wifi (I think it will also report bluetooth as well)
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> Ok I will tell my friend who is on the line
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> No net
[10:03] <kamilnadeem> how will he isntall anything
[10:03] <joginder> how we can create a new group?
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: can he plug into a wired lan?
[10:04] <kamilnadeem> no
[10:04] <yeats> joginder: here's a free online book with the basics of Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[10:04] <johnm> kamilnadeem: most of the packages are alsol on the installation dvd
[10:04] <yeats> joginder: sounds like you need a bit of background on this
[10:04] <GVolkmann> joginder: groupadd?? read about the theory before you try to do it, it is more complicated than 'execute this command'
[10:04] <kamilnadeem> Yeah so what should I tell him to do
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: under the wifi icon, does it list "enable wireless"? and if so, is there a checkmark next to it?
[10:05] <kamilnadeem> It is showing but he is unable to click it
[10:05] <Kartook> My ubuntu 11.10 top menu bar missing
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: he can't click on the wifi icon?
[10:05] <joginder> what is the command to switch to different user  without logoff existing?
[10:05] <Kartook> how can i add those
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: can you get to a terminal window?
[10:06] <Kartook> i will can get it
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> He is able to check the wifi indicator
[10:06] <Kartook> yeap i got the terminal window
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> This is what he is seeing
[10:06] <DarwinSurvivor> "unity --reset; rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.config/gnome*" then log out and back in again
[10:06] <kamilnadeem> wireless networks wireless is disabled
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> Vp conncetion configure Vpn
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> enable networking is ticked
[10:07] <joginder> command to switch to different user?
[10:07] <kamilnadeem> enable wireless is highlighted but nothing happens on clicking it
[10:07] <Axenic> Hm
[10:07] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: his laptop should have a physical button/switch/etc to enable/disable the wifi card, does the menu change after hitting that button/switch?
[10:07] <GVolkmann> joginder: su
[10:08] <Kartook> now how to i add the nautilite-connect-server
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> When he tuns off wifi from the keyboard
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: your questions appear very random and don't seem to be serving any purpose, please explain what you are trying to DO
[10:08] <Kartook> i need to get a shortcut my cairodock
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> it is saying "wireless is disabled by hardware"
[10:09] <kamilnadeem> when he turns wifi on from keyboard
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: "unity --reset; rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.config/gnome*" then log out and back in again
[10:09] <GVolkmann> kamilnadeem: what is the wireless hardware?
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: that will reset your interface to defaults and *should* restore any missing icons/applets/bars/etc
[10:09] <kamilnadeem> then it showls "wireless is disabled"
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> Don't know about it
[10:10] <mogaj> please someone guide me ..... While installing gimp from software center am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/ My OS ubuntu 11.10
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> he is at his place
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> I am not near him
[10:10] <joginder> give me a link for installing screensaver
[10:10] <GVolkmann> kamil: can you get a pastebin lspci output?
[10:10] <kamilnadeem> ok trying
[10:10] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please run a full update on your computer, then try installing gimp again
[10:11] <jrib> mogaj: no clue as to why that might be happening?  What did you modify regarding your package system and repositories/
[10:11] <joginder> give me a link to install screensavers
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: is there an entry that says *exactly* "Enable Wireless"?
[10:12] <DarwinSurvivor> if so, is there a checkmark next to it.
[10:13] <joginder> plz tell me the command to go to the root user?
[10:13] <Kartook> i lost my intrest on this GNOME3
[10:13] <Kartook> and ubu 11.10
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> if it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and look again. if it is in the list (without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it.
[10:13] <Kartook> i love to stay with ubu 10.10
[10:13] <Kartook> Thanks for your help
[10:13] <kamilnadeem> he is seeing some out put
[10:13] <bekks> Kartook: 10.10 isnt supported soon.
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> Kartook: OH, you are using gnome3?
[10:13] <bekks> Kartook: In a few days, it runs out of support.
[10:13] <Kartook> haaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:13] <GVolkmann> joginder: i just did. su
[10:13] <Kartook> ubu 11.10 makes me sick
[10:14] <zatan> Hi how can I uninstall some software together with all config files ?
[10:14] <JadedJacob> good evening ubuntu
[10:14] <bekks> GVolkmann: su works only if having a root password.
[10:14] <Kartook> its not handy or easy to use  ...
[10:14] <bekks> JadedJacob: sudo
[10:14] <bekks> gna.
[10:14] <Axenic> I'm using based on linux distro, gnome shell and unity... they just don't fit with me :P
[10:14] <Axenic> ubuntu distro*
[10:14] <bekks> joginder: sudo will make you root for just one command.
[10:14] <Kartook> like  creating shortcut , apple look , connect to windows servers , RDC . menu bar
[10:14] <Kartook> the list goes a lot
[10:14] <DarwinSurvivor> !notunity
[10:14] <JadedJacob> unity doesn't agree with me.
[10:14] <KarlsruheER> hi
[10:14] <JadedJacob> Mac os x does.
[10:15] <JadedJacob> Love KDE and gnome though
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <joginder> command to switch to the super user?
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <KarlsruheER> who has ever made a squirt ? ????
[10:15] <Kartook> :P
[10:15] <FloodBot1> KarlsruheER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <Kartook> i like to use mac themes
[10:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Axenic: give xfce and lmde a try, they are more "traditional" in appearance and design. KDE is a more modern looking alternative
[10:15] <Kartook> and cairo dock or Docky
[10:15] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:15] <CDHAYS> Hello everyone.
[10:15] <Kartook> i am big fan of macubuntu
[10:15] <Axenic> I'm running elementary OS lol
[10:15] <joginder> what is the command to switch to the rootuser?
[10:16] <CDHAYS> Somebody please help me with graphic problem I am facing with ubuntu 11.10
[10:16] <Kartook> <joginder> : su
[10:16] <Kartook> or sudo
[10:16] <GVolkmann> bekks: ah, yeah....i never cared for the ubuntu mandatory sudoer confguration...i always forget.
[10:16] <Myrtti> joginder: use sudo to do tasks as supoer user, su won't work
[10:16] <JadedJacob> what's macubuntu?
[10:16] <Axenic> @CDHAYS What's wrong?
[10:16] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: please do NOT re-ask questions to which you have already been given the answer FIVE TIMES!
[10:16] <tudou> hello
[10:16] <rick__> steve jobs zombie
[10:16] <Axenic> lol
[10:17] <oCean> rick__: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:17] <Kartook> <JadedJacob> : tranformation pack for ubuntu looks like mac   macbuntu google it buddy
[10:17] <kamilnadeem> Darwin did you get the paste output
[10:17] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:17] <Kartook> rick  ;; looknig is not bad .. i love to use ubutnu and i am adict
[10:17] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: yes, reading it now
[10:17] <JadedJacob> Kartook: it's so much easier to talk about it in chat ;)
[10:17] <CDHAYS> Axenic: No animations at all, poor graphic, al though I have a dedicated nvidia gforce 1gb graphic, like, when I minimize, a black box moves towards unity launcher.
[10:17] <RedBunny> if i donwgrade to ubuntu 11.10 would it take care of these problems you think ,....?
[10:18] <GVolkmann> Kamil: Say, I am not sure, ive never used that wireless interface, but...maybe you are loading the wrong firmware, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67437/how-do-i-install-a-driver-for-an-atheros-ar9285
[10:18] <JadedJacob> I don't understand the appeal of skinning something to look like something else, if it doesn't perform as well
[10:18] <Kartook> i learned al lthrough this chat only
[10:18] <Kartook> thanks to all friends
[10:18] <oCean> JadedJacob, Kartook please keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <rick__> oCean, no thans just mocking around and giving xchat a try actually
[10:18] <oCean> rick__: this channel is for support only. /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[10:18] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that card appears to be 100% supported by ubuntu
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: has he followed the steps I posted?
[10:19] <kamilnadeem> then
[10:19] <kamilnadeem> where have you posted
[10:19] <Kartook> sorry
[10:19] <rick__> oCean, sorry it is just where it defaulted this program
[10:19] <rick__> have a nice day :-)
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: if it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and look again. if it is in the list (without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it.
[10:19] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor:  the result after full update of system ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/ ... but still not able to install Gimp ... am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/
[10:20] <mogaj> the result after full update of system ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/ ... but still not able to install Gimp ... am getting this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/917161/
[10:20] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: sorry, just a sec
[10:20] <joginder> when i am trying to add a new user then the message"Only root may add a user or group to the system" is displaying why?
[10:20] <joginder> when i am trying to add a new user then the message"Only root may add a user or group to the system" is displaying? why?
[10:20] <oCean> joginder: stop repeating
[10:20] <kamilnadeem> he is giving the result of rfkill list
[10:21] <mogaj> joginder: try adding user as root  use sudo command
[10:21] <latmen> ciao
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: look for an item called "Enable Wireless" in the wifi menu. If it's not in the list, hit the hardware key and check again. if it is in the list (but without a checkmark), click on the list item to re-enable it. if it is in the list (and *is* checked), but you still can't connect, then something else is wrong
[10:21] <latmen> !lista
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: because only root can add a new user...
[10:21] <oCean> !sudo | joginder
[10:21] <kamilnadeem> ok telling him on the line
[10:22] <RedBunny> when is the stable version of ubuntu suppost to me out ,... sometime thismonth right ,....
[10:22] <RedBunny> ?
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Soft blocked: no
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Hard blocked: yes
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Soft blocked: no
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 	Hard blocked: no
[10:22] <FloodBot1> kamilnadeem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> 2: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
[10:22] <oCean> RedBunny: planning is april 26th, it will be out when it is ready
[10:22] <bekks> RedBunny: At the end of this month 12.04 will be release - until then, 11.10 is the latest stable.
[10:22] <RedBunny> do i have to do a total re-install oe is it just an upgrade from 12.04
[10:23] <bekks> RedBunny: Please rephrase.
[10:23] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, so the wifi card is hard-blocked, that means he needs to hit the physical wifi button on the laptop. after doing that, please tell me what is listed under "0: phy0: Wireless LAN" (there should only be 2 entries)
[10:23] <RedBunny> ive installed ubuntu 12.04 beta 1  ,... how, whe 12.10 is out do  i install it w/o loosing my settings
[10:23] <oCean> !final | RedBunny
[10:24] <stickyboy> I'm getting hangs after high I/O on an md RAID1.  I don't see anything in /var/log/dmesg*... where else can I look?
[10:24] <RedBunny> ok thanx
[10:25] <bekks> RedBunny: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only. As I already said.
[10:25] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: i updates my system but still not able to install gimp
[10:25] <DarwinSurvivor> RedBunny: when 12.04 comes out, just upgrade using the update manager and ubuntu will preserve as many settings as possible (barring a few that may no longer be compatible)
[10:25] <RedBunny> well i was asking about astable ,.. i thought that was in here
[10:25] <kamilnadeem> telling
[10:25] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: did you get any errors when updating?
[10:26] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917257/
[10:26] <taxman01> how many bug you found in 12.04?
[10:26] <kamilnadeem> dawn that is the result
[10:26] <mogaj> DarwinnSurvivor: This is the error output i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/917244/
[10:27] <kamilnadeem> when hardware key is off from the keyboard as you sked
[10:27] <oCean> taxman01: 12.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1, not here
[10:27] <taxman01> lol
[10:27] <oCean> !who | kamilnadeem
[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: wait a minute, that shows him having 2 wireless cards...
[10:27] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: have him hit the button again and tell you which line changes in the output
[10:28] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please open "software sources" (it's in the application lense), the go to the "Other Software" tab and list (using pastebin) all the entries in that list
[10:28] <kamilnadeem> he is telling Darwin
[10:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | mogaj
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: thank you
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: don't forget to specify which ones have checkmarks next to them
[10:29] <kamilnadeem> Darwin http://paste.ubuntu.com/917262/
[10:30] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok thanks, tell him to 100% ignore anything that says "phy0", it appears to be a useless dud
[10:31] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[10:31] <kamilnadeem> so what do I tell him Darwin
[10:31] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: according to the last pastebin, his wireless is no longer disabled at the hardware level, now please list what is in his wifi menu (at the top of the screen), don't forget to sepecify which ones have checkmarks
[10:32] <kamilnadeem> ok
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: since it is no longer disabled at the hardware level, make sure he does NOT hit the physical wifi button again!
[10:32] <thanhnd> \JOIN #linujx
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: try /join with a forward slash :P
[10:32] <taxman01> lol
[10:33] <joginder> is xchat is available for the redhat also?
[10:33] <taxman01> nobody is there
[10:33] <thanhnd> darwinsurvivor, so long since last time i used join command :D
[10:33] <bekks> joginder: Ask the redhat support.
[10:34] <thanhnd> any one here in #php ?
[10:34] <bekks> thanhnd: Join #php and look yourself :)
[10:34] <thanhnd> it said invitation is required
[10:34] <DarwinSurvivor> joginder: please go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal to familiarize yourself with the linux command line. don't forget to visit the links at the bottom for even more fun tutorials!
[10:35] <thanhnd> bekks: invitation is demanded :(
[10:35] <GVolkmann> joginder: i suggest using google to find out if xchat is available for redhat.
[10:35] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: i got in fine, make sure your nickname is registered with freenode, some channels only let registered nick in due to abuse problems
[10:36] <DarwinSurvivor> thanhnd: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[10:36] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: other software resources ... http://imagebin.org/206920
[10:37] <thanhnd> DarwinSurvivor: thank you :)
[10:37] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: remember when you said you had no PPA's installed, that screenshot shows 6 in current use and 7 old ones that used to be used
[10:38] <kamilnadeem> Darwin here is the screenshot http://imgur.com/IA5MX
[10:38] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: I can almost guarantee you that at least one of those PPA's is causing the problem
[10:38] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: how can rectify that?
[10:38] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: perfect, now click on "Enable Wireless" and everything *should* start working again.
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> Nothinh happens when he clicks on it
[10:39] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: just out of curiosity, how did he post a screenshot without internet...?
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> He is using transferring the file from another windows la[ptop
[10:39] <kamilnadeem> that is why it is taking so time
[10:40] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, lol. thought maybe there was some witchcraft involved or something :P
[10:40] <kamilnadeem> O.o
[10:41] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: Is there no solution?
[10:41] <kamilnadeem> so darwin what should I do
[10:42] <kamilnadeem> I mean what should I tel him
[10:42] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: did he click on "Enable Wireless" yet?
[10:42] <kamilnadeem> Nothing is happening when he clicks it
[10:42] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: once he has, ask him to run "rfkill list" again and post a new screenshot (or just list the changes if any)
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> He is saying "Areoplane mode" is getiing on while he is turning it off
[10:43] <usuario_> hola
[10:43] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, in the terminal have him run "sudo rfkill unblock all", then open the menu again
[10:43] <usuario_> hola
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> Darwin telling him
[10:44] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: airplane mode? didn't know ubuntu even HAD airplane mode. where did he find that?
[10:44] <kamilnadeem> Ok he has made that command in the terminal
[10:44] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please give me a few minutes, I think kamilnadeem's issue is almost fixed. Your issue will probably take some work :(
[10:45] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, what does "rfkill list" show and are there any changes in the wifi menu?
[10:45] <usuario_> hola
[10:45] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: ok
[10:45] <usuario_> hola
[10:45] <usuario_> ok
[10:45] <usuario_> ok
[10:45] <usuario_> o
[10:45] <taxman01> ekia
[10:45] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:45] <usuario_> ok
[10:45] <taxman01> ikia
[10:45] <kamilnadeem> Okay asking him
[10:46] <kamilnadeem> no changes
[10:46] <usuario_> no changes??
[10:46] <kamilnadeem> no changes anyplace
[10:46] <kasii> hi all
[10:47] <usuario_> hi
[10:47] <taxman01> hi
[10:47] <kasii> guys is there any possibility of restore the hidden partition
[10:47] <usuario_> the fucking mather
[10:48] <pangolin> !language | usuario_
[10:48] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: has he done any updates since the last reboot? I so, there could be a kernel vs. driver conflict (driver expecting a different kernel)
[10:48] <usuario_> ok
[10:48] <usuario_> soi spaning
[10:48] <kasii>  is there any possibility of restore the hidden partition
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> http://i.imgur.com/5Etmw.png
[10:49] <kamilnadeem> Darwin
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> See that Airplane mode
[10:50] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: stupid question, but what happens if he slides the "off" to "on"? or is it un-clickable?
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> It runs off when he clicks it
[10:50] <KarlsruheER> Welche Frau hat schonmal ejakuliert ??
[10:50] <KarlsruheER> Welche Frau hat schonmal ejakuliert ??
[10:50] <kamilnadeem> but then turns on again on its own
[10:51] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, so airplane mode appears to be "stuck" on then.
[10:51] <kamilnadeem> Then
[10:52] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: do you still have the link to the pastbin of his lspci output?
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> yeah
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> Darrwin check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/76815/how-to-turn-off-airplane-mode
[10:53] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that's the one I just found
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> I am giving you the lscpi
[10:54] <DarwinSurvivor> I just want to check if his card is the AR9285 which someone else with the same problem also has
[10:54] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917239/
[10:54] <kamilnadeem> here darwin
[10:55] <kasii> hi all
[10:56] <kasii>  is there any possibility of restore the hidden partition
[10:56] <bekks> kasii: Ubuntu does not use a hidden partition at all.
[10:56] <usuario__> hola
[10:56] <usuario__> hi
[10:56] <tonvin>    /away
[10:56] <usuario__> hii
[10:56] <usuario__> the fucking mather
[10:57] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: yep, that is the exact same wireless card as the other guy having the same issue. I recommend opening a bug report and linking it to that discussion. also add the screenshots and pastebins and point out that 2 people with the same card have this problem. it very well could be a driver bug
[10:57] <kasii> bekks, i have hidden partition when i boot with live cd i saw it with my data
[10:57] <usuario__> no
[10:57] <kasii> bekks, how can i restore it
[10:58] <usuario__> hi
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> usuario__  please stop
[10:58] <DarwinSurvivor> usuario__: please watch your language and keep non-support stuff in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[10:58] <usuario__> hi
[10:58] <usuario__> please
[10:58] <bekks> kasii: First, please provide the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin
[10:59] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> gksudo gedit /etc/modules	
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> darwin
[10:59] <kamilnadeem> does this has to do anything
[11:00] <kamilnadeem> it only has LP on it
[11:00] <kasii> bekks,  ok let me do it
[11:00] <sab0> i am using ubutu 10.04, want to upgrade to 11
[11:01] <sab0> i am using ubutu 10.04, want to upgrade to 11....can anyone please tell me how can i do that ?
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> sab0  12.04 LTS will soon come out, my advice is to wait a few more weeks
[11:01] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67437/how-do-i-install-a-driver-for-an-atheros-ar9285 appears to be very relevant
[11:01] <kamilnadeem> Checking it Darwin
[11:02] <DarwinSurvivor> !upgrade | sab0
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> Poniter has freezed on his laptop when he restarted
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> just now
[11:02] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: as in the mouse cursor?
[11:02] <sab0> MonkeyDust, but does 12.04 will be stable version?
[11:02] <kamilnadeem> Yeah
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> sab0  when it comes out, yes
[11:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: nobody knows if a release will be stable until it's release and people try it for a month or so
[11:03] <kasii> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/917301/
[11:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: for 12.04 questions, please visit #ubuntu+1 where all the people that use it are hanging out
[11:03] <kamilnadeem> Ok I made him logout through dash and then it is working
[11:04] <sab0> MonkeyDust, DarwinSurvivor  thank you, i am novice linux user...dont know manythings
[11:04] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: follow the instructions for blacklisting acer_wmi at the link I provided and see if that fixes it (he will need to reboot afterwards)
[11:04] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[11:04] <DarwinSurvivor> sab0: novices are welcome, we will do our best to steer you in the right direction
[11:04] <kasii> bekks are u there
[11:05] <kamilnadeem> Tellling him what to do
[11:05] <bekks> kasii: yes.
[11:05] <bekks> kasii: There is no hidden partition.
[11:05] <kasii> have see the  pastebin link
[11:05] <kasii> okay
[11:06] <Kabiigon> hi
[11:06] <kasii> bekks, but i dont see it computer icon when i open it
[11:06] <bekks> kasii: Which computer icon?
[11:06] <kamilnadeem> The file has opened darwin what should he do
[11:07] <kamilnadeem> He has HP 430
[11:07] <kamilnadeem> om26er how are you?
[11:07] <kasii> see these /dev/sda3
[11:07] <bekks> kasii: Thats a Windows partition.
[11:07] <uminvincible> Iti s quite weird but I have been trying to join #fedora and the I am not getting connected, Instead, once and only once I got redirected to #fedora-unregistered . Then I tried /join #fedora and nothing pops up in Empathy. I am trying to get some help. I know I am in the wrong channel. But I do not have an idea of what else to do. Can somebody point a finger please....
[11:07] <kasii> bekks, see these /dev/sda3
[11:07] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : About gimp
[11:07] <jrib> !register | uminvincible
[11:08] <bekks> kasii: Thats still a Windows partition, like seconds ago.
[11:08] <kasii> yaahh with ntfs filesystem
[11:08] <uminvincible> ubottu: Thank you very much. But I have registered uminvincible as my nick and the nickserv identifies me positively...
[11:08] <kasii> bekks, so how can i view it
[11:08] <bekks> kasii: You have to mount it.
[11:09] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: just have him add "acer_wmi" without quotes as its own line in the file (there is probably a commented header of some kind with some instructions)
[11:09] <Kabiigon> i want to install ubuntu along side my windows 7 but ubuntu is not seeing the windows 7 partition just a blank drie e
[11:09] <kasii> how can i mount it
[11:09] <oCean> uminvincible: please ask in #freenode channel
[11:09] <uminvincible> oCean: Thank you.. I will try that. Thank you.
[11:09] <kasii> bekks, how can i mount i
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> So I am saying to blacklist acer_wmi
[11:10] <bekks> kasii: You dont have to repeat everything you say.
[11:10] <angs> I want my ubuntu to wake up and sleep some certain times such as. it should start at 10:00 pm and sleep at 7:00 am. what is the command to schedule wakeup and sleep time of the pc?
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> He is getting an error
[11:10] <kamilnadeem> darwin wait he is telling.
[11:11] <kasii> bekks, tell me what to do in order to mount it
[11:11] <bekks> angs: Unless you have a bios to power it on at a give point in time, you cannot do so with ubuntu. Just put your finger on the power button to power it on.
[11:11] <bekks> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> Darwin attempting to set the permission of' /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel' , but failed: No such file or directory	
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> This is the error that he is getting
[11:12] <kamilnadeem> on the terminal
[11:12] <angs> bekks: is it possible if ubuntu sleeps rather than shutdown? In this case, is it possible to schedule wake up and sleep times?
[11:12] <Gethro> Goodmornig everyone: I have a question: Which torrent client do you think is better - uTorrent or Transmission or another client not mentioned? And why?
[11:12] <bekks> angs: No.
[11:12] <kasii> bekks, let me try
[11:13] <bekks> angs: You can schedule the shutdown, but why dont you just shut it down when finished? Instead of loosing work, when trying to write the last sentence of a letter?
[11:13] <kamilnadeem> Darwin http://cyberponcho.blogspot.in/2011/11/how-to-re-enable-wireless-in-ubuntu.html
[11:13] <DarwinSurvivor> maknz: what command did he run when he got that error?
[11:14] <ElliotGao> hello,everyone
[11:14] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: that page basically says to run "sudo rfkill unblock wifi", the "sudo rfkill unblock all" which he ran earlier does the same thing, but to ALL the cards.
[11:15] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still using the software from all of those PPA's?
[11:15] <angs> bekks: I would like to implement wakeup and sleep schedule for an embedded board, and it will work remotely. I just wondered if there is any command to schedule a linux's working hours
[11:15] <bekks> angs: The answer still is "No".
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> angs  remotely... i guess you want WakeOnLan
[11:16] <angs> ok thanks
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> Man he is going to grab a windows 7 disk
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> he is loosing patience
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> Sad
[11:16] <kamilnadeem> I don't why he is getting this prob
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> angs  is this what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[11:17] <blez> what's the most 'native' way for linux to show popups? (tray popups)
[11:17] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: please start reading http://askubuntu.com/questions/89408/how-do-i-fix-a-bad-ppa-installed-in-ubuntu (specifically --configure part of solution 2)
[11:17] <blez> I see that ubuntu uses growl-like notifications
[11:18] <DarwinSurvivor> !notify-send | blez
[11:18] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, worth a shot
[11:18] <blez> what's that?
[11:19] <DarwinSurvivor> blez: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/12/ubuntu-notify-send/
[11:19] <blez> that's nice, but I'm talking about other distros, what do they use?
[11:20] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: sorry, my bad. he needs to add "blacklist acer_wmi" as a line (without the quotes). forgot the word blacklist
[11:20] <bekks> blez: Ask "the others" :)
[11:20] <sab0> i am using ubuntu 10.04 along with win7;but during boot i can see a lot of ubuntu version there,i want the one i need,can anyone please tell me how can i don that?i want to do it from terminal...
[11:20] <blez> bekks don't be like that
[11:20] <derpladee> hey i have some video card driver issues, i have a radeon mobility 2600 video card, if i use the proprietary drivers that the hardware driver utility in system->administration proposes then i have huge problems with making a resizing windows, if i install the drivers from the amd website then i don't have those problems but either way i have problems with openGL applications. they flicker all the time. if i just uninstall all drivers and use the generic ve
[11:20] <kamilnadeem> I told him to do that only. He added "blacklist acer_wmi"
[11:20] <bekks> blez: We dont know how other distros implement things, seriously.
[11:20] <oCean> blez: this channel is for ubuntu support, use ##linux for general linux questions
[11:20] <kamilnadeem> In terminal this appeared attempting to set the permission of' /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel' , but failed: No such file or directory
[11:21] <DarwinSurvivor> blez: almost every GUI-enabled distro i've ever seen fully supports notify-send. if there's a distro in particular you want to verify, please ask in their channel as they will have more accurate answers
[11:21] <blez> DarwinSurvivor it is included in most of the distros?
[11:21] <blez> so I can use it freely?
[11:23] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: ok, looks like that error is more of a warning (unrelated to the blacklist itself, it's a GTK error). if he's successfully saved the blacklist file, have him reboot and test his wireless
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917321/
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> darwin
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> This what he had
[11:23] <kamilnadeem> done
[11:24] <kamilnadeem> had he done it correctly
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: you can use <tab> to autocomplete nicknames. Example: type  oc<tab>
[11:24] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: perfect, now have him save the file (if he hasn't already) and reboot
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: please start your lines with the nickname of the person you are talking to
[11:24] <kamilnadeem> tab is not working on xchat
[11:24] <oCean> kamilnadeem: sure it is
[11:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. tab works for me in xchat.
[11:25] <meco> What's a simple video editing tool I can use to rotate the video 90? and save it? I can rotate it while viewing with VLC but not save.
[11:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oCean: I have actually come across x-chat have bad default settings and having that feature disabled.
[11:25] <kamilnadeem> Not working for me
[11:25] <kamilnadeem> Tab should work but is not
[11:25] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: the tab completion setting should be in x-chat's preferences
[11:26] <oCean> kamilnadeem: it is very confusing when you are not using nicknames to address others
[11:26] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[11:26] <kamilnadeem> Sorry for my mistake
[11:26] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: you can look for that in preference while your friend reboots :D
[11:26] <Kabiigon> i want to install ubuntu along side my windows 7 but ubuntu is not seeing the windows 7 partition just a blank drie e
[11:26] <DarwinSurvivor> *preferences
[11:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Kabiigon: please post the output of "fdisk -l" to pastebin
[11:27] <Kabiigon> its on another computer
[11:27] <Kabiigon> let me get to it
 Nothing happend
[11:27] <pshah1_> #ruby
[11:28] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: what does "lsmod | grep acer_wmi" show?
[11:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: if your friend has a second computer with internet (that he's posting screenshots to), could he join us in the irc room? that would probably make things go quicker
[11:29] <kamilnadeem> okay asking him to do so
 okay telling
[11:30] <anderssen> Hello everyone! I'm a new ubuntu user
[11:31] <OerHeks> Congrats anderssen
[11:31] <DarwinSurvivor> kamilnadeem: he can use http://webchat.freenode.net/ to connect from windows without installing any software
[11:31] <anderssen> when will new release of ubuntu 12.04
[11:31] <kamilnadeem> Yeah doing just that
[11:31] <kamilnadeem> :-)
[11:32] <oCean> anderssen: when it's ready. Plans are april 26th
[11:32] <anderssen> ok
 karan4 is our man
[11:32] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: welcome
[11:32] <karan4> hi everybody
[11:33] <karan4> hello DarwinSurvivor
[11:33] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: hello. could you please tell me if anything shows up when running "lsmod | grep acer_wmi" on your ubuntu machine?
[11:34] <karan4> ok telling
[11:34] <karan4> no man nothing showing
[11:34] <_raven> 11.10 + unetbootin - not able to create bootable usb drives any more - what's happening there
[11:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, that's good. it means the blacklist worked
[11:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, now run "rfkill list" and post a screenshot or a pastebin dump of what it prints
[11:36] <karan4> ok giving u a screen shot
[11:37] <Dr_willis> _raven,  you useing the latest version of unetbootin? theres alternatives tools at the pendrivelinux web site.
[11:37] <MarKsaitis> ubuntu package search?
[11:37] <kamilnadeem> brb DarwinSurvivor
[11:38] <karan4> http://imgur.com/PP5Uc please take a look
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> _raven  there's also MultiSystem
[11:38] <bekks> MarKsaitis: packages.ubuntu.com :)
[11:38] <Dr_willis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:38] <MarKsaitis> bekks, does it have search option
[11:38] <MarKsaitis> woops, it does thanx
[11:39] <bekks> MarKsaitis: Visit the site and look yourself :)
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: ok, now try running "sudo rfkill unblock all" it should work now that acer_wmi is blacklisted
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: "apt-cache search"
[11:39] <MarKsaitis> thanx
[11:39] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: you can also search in the software center (top-right corner)
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu Packages Search
[11:39] <Dr_willis> This site provides you with information about all the packages available in the Ubuntu Package archive.
[11:39] <karan4> ok checking
[11:40] <joginder> what is the command to create a directory?
[11:40] <karan4> darwin nothing happened
[11:40] <Dr_willis> joginder,  mkdir
[11:40] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: did the output of "rfkill list" change?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> !bash | joginder
[11:40] <ent_> hey hey
[11:40] <karan4> no
[11:41] <rk0r> lots of users in here
[11:41] <joginder> is xchat works for red hat linux6 also?
[11:41] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: did you get any errors when running unblock?
[11:41] <karan4> no man
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: can you check if you are still getting that weird airplane mode behaviour?
[11:42] <rk0r> in ubuntu ?
[11:42] <joginder> is xchat works for redhat6 also?
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still there?
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !google | jobinder
[11:42] <karan4> yes it is still there
[11:42] <DarwinSurvivor> well, that's the opposite of what I was looking for :P
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> joginder  better as that in a redhat channel
[11:43] <joginder> plz tell me that redhat6 support the xchat?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[11:43] <entombed> anyone here getting an ivy bridge
[11:43] <karan4> haha
[11:43] <rk0r> ivy can be destructive on houses
[11:43] <joginder> is there any international certification for ubuntu?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !ot| joginder
[11:44] <karan4> what should i do darwin??
[11:46] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: can you post the output of "ifconfig"?
[11:46] <caylo> hii, how should i set up partitions? i cant let it do auto because i need to keep a windows partition of music for now
[11:46] <thunder1212> i need some help
[11:46] <karan4> ya
[11:46] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: have you resized your windows partition to make room for ubuntu yet?
[11:46] <caylo> yes Darwin
[11:47] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: I *highly* recommend resizing windows partitions by using windows tools, especially on ntfs partitions
[11:47] <thunder1212> karan4: my laptop doesn't shutdown
[11:47] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: do you need help with how to do the partitoning, or recommendations on sizes/etc?
[11:47] <Dr_willis> joginder,  i got xchat on my windows os. :)
[11:47] <Froodle> I'm trying to triple boot.  I've had Ubuntu and Win7 for a year, and I just installed RHEL6, but it won't show in Grub.  Disk Utility says it's "LVM2 Physical Volume" on /dev/sda8.  Help?
[11:47] <caylo> i know i need 3, i have added an ext4 mounted at /, and a swap
[11:47] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: it onlt trial ver
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,  nope.. its a totally free version.
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,  theres several differnt builds of xchat for windows.
[11:48] <Etronik> Hi guys, how to update gwibber on ubuntu to the latest version?
[11:48] <Dr_willis> thunder1212,   XChat-WDK 1500
[11:48] <thunder1212> i need help
[11:48] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: ok, so what else do you need? sounds like your partitioning is all done already!
[11:48] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: can u send the download link
[11:49] <compdoc> Froodle, yeah, redhat and centos want to install everything on LVM. Thats one reason I moved to ubuntu - clonezilla doesnt work with LVM
[11:49] <caylo> is there any mount point for the third? and its ext4 okay for both? :)
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> caylo  the ubuntu installer lets you choose a free partition
[11:49] <thunder1212> Dr_willis: ok  got it..
[11:49] <caylo> and is 30 okay for /
[11:49] <bekks> compdoc: RHEL and CentOS bother offer the possibility to partition manually.
[11:49] <Froodle> compdoc, how can I get it to show in Grub?  I can't boot to it!  lol
[11:50] <compdoc> bekks, sure
[11:50] <thunder1212> my laptop doesn;t shutdown
[11:50] <karan4> http://i.imgur.com/vMoWD.png
[11:50] <caylo> MonkeyDust, it wanted to take the whole thing or go advanced
[11:50] <thunder1212> karan4: can u help??
[11:51] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: please be more specific with your question. is there no shutdown button, does it lock up, does the fan keep spinning, etc?
[11:51] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: thanks
[11:52] <oduku> there's one file located in ubuntu server at /var/log,  i want to specify a link to that file in my project in windows how wud i do that
[11:52] <Inner> Hi all I was wondering if someone could help me out with Ubuntu Server 11.04 .. it keeps letting one my hard drives spin down over time, is there a way to disable acpi or what ever is making it do this pleace?
[11:53] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: hi, actually, when i send the shutdown signal the system accepts it but gets stuck somewhere in between.. and i have to turn it off by pressing and holding the shutdon button
[11:53] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: try "sudo ifup wlan0"
[11:53] <LeXuS> > DarwinSurvivor > hello, you sit in ICQ
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  try sudo init 0, it's rather drastic, but should work
[11:54] <DarwinSurvivor> LeXuS: i do have icq, why do you ask?
[11:54] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: am using a dell vostro laptop , 4mnths old came preinstalled with ubuntu 10.10 then i upgraded to 11.04,  worked fine for some time but for the last week or so it gets stuck
[11:54] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: tried that doesn;t work..
[11:54] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: i've seen laptop mode tools cause issues like that, are you using it?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  or sudo shutdown -h now
[11:55] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: did that as well same toruble
[11:55] <compdoc> Inner, is it a green drive?
[11:55] <karan4> it says ignoring unkown interface wlan0=wlan0
[11:55] <oduku> there's one file located in ubuntu server at /var/log,  i want to specify a link to that file in my project in windows how wud i do that
[11:55] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: i mean same trouble is there, the machine doesnt shutdown
[11:55] <ShapeShifter499> Hi, I think I was banned due to a joining issue on #debian (to many joins and disconnects at once). It was really caused by a bad znc configuration, can someone message them and let someone there know?
[11:56] <Inner> compdoc: green drive? lol , hmm no just a sata drive, it sits doing nothing mostly but at midnight it has work to do by that time of course its sleeping so it isn't accessible by the backup scripts.
[11:56] <bazhang> ShapeShifter499, message their ops.
[11:56] <ShapeShifter499> I have fixed my znc btw
[11:56] <oduku> please any1 can ans me will be aprreciable
[11:57] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: just a sec, looking up a command
[11:57] <karan4> k
[11:57] <ShapeShifter499> bazhang: I have no idea who is a op there
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !patience| oduku
[11:57] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: let me check, but if thats the case why won't it shutdown on windows
[11:58] <rk0r> does anyone user " brainstorm" on the ubuntu projects
[11:58] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: ok, try "sudo ifup -a"
[11:59] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: then run "ifconfig" again and see if any new entries (other than lo and eth0) appear
[11:59] <oduku> ne1 here knows the ans of my que
[11:59] <oduku> plzz
[11:59] <compdoc> Inner, WD and I guess others, make green drives that spin down after a fairly short time, and Im not sure that can be changed except by installing new firmware to the drive. There used to be bios settings for spinning down drives on the older systems. Anyway, it should wake up automatically when something has to be written - maybe you can copy a file to it before the backup
[11:59] <karan4> no no other entries
[11:59] <rk0r> karan4 what are you tring to do with your ethernet ?
[12:00] <linocisco> hi where to ask about eletrical wiring problems?
[12:00] <linocisco> hi where to ask about eletrical wiring problems?
[12:00] <bastidrazor> linocisco: Lowes
[12:00] <karan4> rk0r im not able to enable wifi on my laptop
[12:00] <compdoc> linocisco, inside the computer, or the house wiring?
[12:00] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: no laptop-mode-tools
[12:00] <linocisco> #lowes ?
[12:00] <kasii> bekks, are uthere
[12:01] <kasii> bekks, come on
[12:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rk0r: karan4 has a
[12:01] <bekks> kasii: Take a look at the user list in the channel to see wether a user is there or not.
[12:01] <DarwinSurvivor> rk0r: karan4 has an atheros card that won't come out of airplane mode
[12:01] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:01] <kasii> how
[12:01] <bekks> kasii: By typing "/names" e.g.
[12:02] <thunder1212> any suggestiona
[12:02] <karan4> darwin the command did not change ifconfig value
[12:02] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:02] <linocisco> compdoc: home wiring
[12:03] <oduku> actually i want to provide link which refers to the file placed in ubuntu server..the link i want to give is in my java code
[12:03] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: oh, windows on a different computer?
[12:03] <Boreeas> A dist-upgade does not remove personal files, righT?
[12:04] <kasii> bekks, i didn't  successfully with the MOUNTING
[12:04] <bekks> kasii: Why not?
[12:04] <linocisco> which channel should I join to ask about electrical wiring?
[12:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: correct, thought it may change some now-incompatible settings (toolbar applets, etc)
[12:04] <bekks> !patientce linocisco
[12:04] <ircnick> hi i have a problem ubuntu 11.10? when i use liveusb on the dell inspiron 1110 netbook it was able to "activate" wireless card but after using wubi to install ubuntu, booting into ubuntu from OS choice menu and trying to activate the wireless driver i get this: installation failed, look at log file /var/log/jockey.log
[12:04] <kasii> too many of them bekks
[12:04] <bekks> gna.
[12:04] <bekks> kasii: Too many of what?
[12:04] <Boreeas> DarwinSurvivor: Ah, it's just for a remote server which is still running 10.04
[12:04] <bekks> !patience linocisco
[12:04] <caylo> okayyy, this is so far, 30GB /, 800 /home, 90win, 30swap :)
[12:04] <bekks> !patience
[12:05] <linocisco> bekks:  ok bro
[12:05] <kasii> too many word i didnt see the correct way to solve the problem
[12:05] <DarwinSurvivor> caylo: sounds appropriate to me, I say go with it
[12:05] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- yes ...i coding in java in windows ..in some places in my code i need to give proper link which points to file located in ubuntu server.
[12:05] <caylo> cool thank you :)
[12:05] <griselda> pex971
[12:06] <kasii> bekks,  too many word i didnt see the correct way to solve the problem
[12:06] <caylo> tbh if it was wrong i could start again and try it different
[12:06] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: I cannot think of any other troubleshooting ideas for your problem. I recommend opening a bug report (as it appears to be a bug) and linking it to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/175340 and mention that you are the second person with the same wireless card to have this problem
[12:06] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: r u there>>
[12:06] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: yes
[12:07] <bekks> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:07] <thunder1212> what next??
[12:07] <karan4> ok
[12:07] <DarwinSurvivor> karan4: add as much detail as possible, and make sure to mention the airplane mode issue
[12:07] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what to do now?? it doesn't shutdown..
[12:07] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: sorry, I have very little experience with shutdown issues, other than looking in /var/log (specifically the dmesg log), I don't have any suggestions for you
[12:08] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: are you still there?
[12:08] <rzehan> leave
[12:08] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor: do u know ans 4 my query..plz help me
[12:08] <sacarlson> thunder1212: have you tried sudo halt ; ?
[12:09] <thunder1212> sacarlson: no will try just wait till i get back..
[12:09] <rzehan> LEAVE
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> rzehan  try /part
[12:10] <rzehan> thanx MonkeyDust
[12:11] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: how is the file being server? (nfs, apache http, etc)?
[12:12] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- not getting u ..how to knw that
[12:13] <compdoc> linocisco, not sure there is an electrical wiring channel, but there is ##hardware, and I know a little about it
[12:13] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: you are tring to use java on one machine to access a file in ubuntu on another machine over a network, correct?
[12:13] <linocisco> compdoc: thanks anyway
[12:14] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:-yes
[12:14] <DarwinSurvivor> linocisco: if you are using x-chat, there is a search feature that lets you search for channels by keyword.
[12:15] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ok, so where is the file in ubuntu, and have you configured ubuntu to make that file available over the network yet?
[12:15] <linocisco> DarwinSurvivor: I m using webchat. so less feature
[12:17] <Boreeas> So, when doing a dist-upgrade of a server over rsh, I get a warning that it is not recommended to do it over ssh. How would I do it instead?
[12:17] <DarwinSurvivor> linocisco: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[12:17] <thunder1212> sacarlson: did not work..
[12:18] <thunder1212> sacarlson: the halt command.. doesnt work
[12:18] <sacarlson> thunder1212: bummer that happens,  I assume it's not that your not a sudoer?
[12:18] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: it is recommended to do it using physical keyboard/monitor connected to the server. remember, if ssh dies during the install, you could completely mess up the system (and not be able to log back in)
[12:18] <oduku> that file is in location /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and no i dont know how to configure ubuntu to access that file
[12:18] <bekks> Boreeas: From the console of the server.
-  that file is in location /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml and no i dont know how to configure ubuntu to access that file
[12:18] <arara> #zevenos
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  shutdown -h now ; init 0 ; halt .... none of these work?
[12:19] <Boreeas> Well, it's a remote server. I don't really have physical access to it. Damn.
[12:19] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: do you only need to access this file a couple times, or does it need to be read on a regular basis?
[12:19] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: yes all those does not work..
[12:20] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: what kind of remote server (private, virtual private, shared, amazon, etc)?
[12:20] <arara> Hello
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:20] <arara> Anyone here could help me?
[12:20] <bekks> arara: We dont know.
[12:20] <oduku> second option:- i will need to read that file anytime
[12:20] <DarwinSurvivor> arara don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:21] <arara> I've installed a distro from germany
[12:21] <arara> i'm brazilian
[12:21] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: do the remote machines need to be able to *edit* the file as well, or only read it?
[12:21] <arara> called Zevenos and it's based on ubunut
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> arara  unfortunaltely, not supported here
[12:21] <ircnick> hi i have a problem ubuntu 11.10? when i use liveusb on the dell inspiron 1110 netbook it was able to "activate" wireless card but after using wubi to install ubuntu, booting into ubuntu from OS choice menu and trying to activate the wireless driver i get this: installation failed, look at log file /var/log/jockey.log
[12:21] <arara> ok
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[12:22] <Boreeas> DarwinSurvivor: Virtual server hosted with a company. I guess I could see if anyone is there, but I doubt it, it being holidays and such.
[12:22] <arara> but all the commands are pretty much the same as ubuntu
[12:22] <bekks> arara: Still, thats not Ubuntu, and thus not supported in here.
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> arara  type /join #zevenos
[12:22] <DarwinSurvivor> arara: zevenos has their own channel at #zevenos due to changes that all "derivative" distros make, #ubuntu cannot support them since we have no idea what changes they have made
[12:23] <thunder1212> ubuntu 11.04
[12:23] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 11.04
[12:23] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: does the file get updated regularly, or does it always stay the same?
[12:23] <sacarlson> thunder1212: not to worry in worst case just hold the power botton 6 secounds I've had to do that 3 times this week with no damages yet
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[12:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: is the java software something you wrote, or are you using a pre-made java application?
[12:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: basically, is code modification of the java application acceptable/possible?
[12:26] <L3mce> !pm info libva-driver-i965
[12:26] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:_ no...i m just going to pass a link to the file located on ubuntu directory..n my java code will only read that file dats it
[12:26] <L3mce> !info libva-driver-i965
[12:27] <thunder1212> sacarlson: well that's what i have been doing for quiet some time now.. but the problem is.. i feel that there's some hardware issue with my laptop and its still under warranty dell complete cover and have 90 days left.. and i called up the dell guys they said we don't provide any support for linux.. and the dell diagnostic doesn;t give any error so.. you install windows then only we might be able to help.. so i am stuck now
[12:27] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: is the java code expecting an http:// url, or something more complicated?
[12:28] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: the out come of the command is UBuntu 11.04 now what>>
[12:28] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- http/https  wud be better...passing one link and file is readable is my final concern
[12:28] <sacarlson> thunder1212: when you say it doesn't shutdown, do you mean it won't shut off,  maybe just an acpi thing
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  what sacarlson says, a reset, by holding the button 5-6 seconds
[12:29] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ok, the you need to set up an http/https server like apache or lighttpd, do you have any experience with any of those?
[12:29] <thunder1212> sacarlson: i did not get what u mean by shut off and when i hold the power button on my laptop for 5-6 sec the system shuts down right??
[12:30] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust:
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  also take out the battery
[12:30] <pikaciu> no
[12:30] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: then what??
[12:30] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor :- plz guide me to set that via apache
[12:30] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: I think they are trying to determine how far you computer DOES shut down. what is the *last* thing you see on your screen when attempting to shut down
[12:30] <sacarlson> thunder1212: yes sure, but when you do a sudo halt, as in some of my systems it will shut down all running apps but fails to power down the system, that would be acpi thing
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  the idea is to hold the button 5-6 seconds *after* you completely shut down
[12:31] <ServerCrash> i need few extra packages to be installed by default when we do ubuntu server installation, dont want to go apt-get install way
[12:31] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: for something as simple as serving a single file, i'd use something simple like lighttpd, apache is pretty heavy for something like that
[12:32] <pikaciu> thunder1212: try ps -A to look at the processes
[12:32] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: ok so you mean i take out the batetries and then put them back and hold the power button they system will get reset riht
[12:32] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: for lighttpd setup help, I recommend asking in #lighttpd, they may also know of even lighter servers that can serve a single file.
[12:33] <sacarlson> thunder1212: you might get a better view of shutdown when you do a <ctl><alt>f2 to take it out of graphic mode when you do the halt to see at what point it gets stuck
[12:33] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: if you disconnect power and pull the battery, there is no need to hold the power button
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  disconnect from the electricity net, take out the battery, hold the button and then restart
[12:33] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: DarwinSurvivor: he has been doing that for some time,  you must of missed that part
[12:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: how many installations are you doing?
[12:34] <DarwinSurvivor> sacarlson: sorry
[12:34] <sacarlson> DarwinSurvivor: don't sorry me sorry thunder1212: it's his case not mine
[12:35] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do u wnat the out put of the command
[12:35] <pikaciu> thunder1212: yep
[12:35] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has asked a question and not gotten a response, please re-ask the question now
[12:35] <L3mce> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel precise | L3mce
[12:36] <phschwartz> Is there a way to create a package that is noarch? Using dpkg-deb I can only seem to make packages that are arch specific.
[12:36] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, help me please
[12:36] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: please post your question
[12:36] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: which-ever person feels they have a good answer will start helping you
[12:36] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what do u meant if i take out the battery then of course i dont need to press and hold the power button of laptop..
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  you do
[12:37] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: holding the power button should do the same thing as disconnecting the power+batteries, no need to do both
[12:37] <ServerCrash> DarwinSurvivor, probably few 100s, but need a custom packaged light weight ubuntu, just bare bone with simple X and few package that my app needs
[12:37] <L3mce> !info i965-va-driver precise > L3mce
[12:37] <pikaciu> thunder1212: it's very risky to pull out the battery
[12:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: you are installing 100+ servers with X per-installed??
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> pikaciu  why? mine is next to my pc
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> is lying*
[12:39] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  my ubuntu hide partiton
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> kasii  there's no such thing as a hidden partition
[12:39] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: it's been a while since I saw your original full question, please post the entire question again
[12:39] <ServerCrash> DarwinSurvivor, well not a server as such but a system which runs a specific program only
[12:39] <bekks> DarwinSurvivor: kasii has a NTFS partition and cant mount it.
[12:40] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: when i run this sudo dpkg --configure -a i got no output? what does it mean?
[12:40] <kasii> fails to mount bekks
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !ntfs-3g
[12:40] <kasii> i have install  ntfs config
[12:40] <mrp> how do i remove and package and all the other packesg it installed.
[12:40] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: ah you are back
[12:40] <mrp> ?
[12:40] <sgs1990> hellow?
[12:40] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: what do u mean if there is no power supply then nothing will work
[12:40] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: there is a bare minimal ubuntu that is like only 60 meg
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> bekks: thanks
[12:41] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: sorry for not holding on
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  it's a hardware reset
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: what have you tried so far?
[12:41] <ServerCrash> sacarlson, any links plz
[12:41] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: but what libs does your app need to run?
[12:41] <kasii> darwin thats  all
[12:41] <sgs1990> can annyone tell me again how i can log in the dutch ubuntu chat ??? i thought it was somthing like /join #ubuntu-nl
[12:41] <sgs1990> but that doesn't work
[12:41] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  thats  all
[12:41] <pangolin> sgs1990, it is
[12:41] <oCean> mrp: sudo apt-get purge packagename will remove the package and configs etc. sudo apt-get autoremove will remove automatically installed dependencies
[12:42] <pikaciu> thunder1212: i'm still waiting the output
[12:42] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, thats all i have tried
[12:42] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: DarwinSurvivor: what next after i power off the machine..
[12:42] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: oh stand corrected it's only 23 meg https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:42] <ServerCrash> sacarlson, basically java, its simple application
[12:42] <pangolin> sgs1990, you getting any error messages or output of any kind?
[12:42] <sgs1990> pangolin,, sorry,, itworked the second time
[12:42] <mrp> oCean: doesn't seem to :(
[12:42] <pangolin> sgs1990, no problem
[12:42] <sgs1990> did the same tipo 2  times
[12:42] <mrp> oCean: trying to remover smaba4
[12:42] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor, waht to do
[12:42] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: i went through the link you sent and used this in terminal sudo dpkg --configure -a but there is no output or something terminal showed next prompt
[12:42] <DarwinSurvivor> ServerCrash: option 1) create a disk image. option 2) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD
[12:42] <sacarlson> ServerCrash: I'm not sure what minimal libs are needed for java
[12:43] <oCean> mrp: sudo apt-get autoremove will only remove packages if they don't satisfy any other dependency
[12:43] <thunder1212> pikaciu: http://pastebin.com/8z1i0JqM
[12:43] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: is the partition on an interal hard drive, or a portable/external one?
[12:44] <pzt-> hello. I just deleted a kvm image (virsh delete /data/kvm-images/bla.img) but the space it should have freed up (around 2TB) isn't updating. (not visible in df or virsh pool-info) the dir -is- actually 2TB smaller, the img file is gone. any idea on how I can force an update?
[12:44] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: what next
[12:44] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  internal one
[12:44] <mrp> oCean: i just install samba and it it install around 25 other packages
[12:44] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  see these  http://paste.ubuntu.com/917301/
[12:44] <bekks> pzt-: Release the file you delete, it is still in use somewhere.
[12:44] <pzt-> bekks, it doesn't show up in lsof
[12:44] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: terminal output http://imagebin.org/206944
[12:45] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: please run gparted and check if there are any warning (yellow triangle with exclamation mark) on that partition
[12:45] <kasii> DarwinSurvivor,  let me try
[12:45] <Hunter-Eric> HI all
[12:46] <oCean> mrp: that might have brought in other packages, that brought their own dependencies. Check  dpkg -l | grep samba to see what is still installed
[12:46] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: would you be opposed to a reinstall? Normally I'd work through the PPA's, but with 15 old+current PPA's, it may be less work to reinstall :(
[12:46] <thunder1212> pikaciu: did u check the out put?
[12:46] <pikaciu> thunder1212: i'm reading
[12:46] <AMIGAS> how do you use uzbl?
[12:47] <pzt-> bekks, any ideas?
[12:47] <DarwinSurvivor> AMIGAS: http://www.uzbl.org/readme.php
[12:47] <thunder1212> DarwinSurvivor: do you want me to power off the system and then do what?
[12:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !man | AMIGAS
[12:48] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: what next to do i shut down my system and then waht
[12:48] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor : well i might lose all my data right??
[12:48] <pikaciu> thunder1212: when you enter - halt - as sudo ... what's the output ?
[12:48] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: have you tried switching to STTY2 (Ctrl+Alt+F2), then runnning "sudo shudown -h now" from there? if so, what was the LAST thing you saw on the screen and did it go black afterwards?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  no further advice, maybe someone else can help
[12:49] <thunder1212> pikaciu: no out put i get the ubuntu shutdown screen with red dots and then it gets stuck in between
[12:49] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: do you have a backup of your files?
[12:49] <mogaj> DarwinSurvivor: will be back pls
[12:49] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: thnx
[12:49] <kasii> CHADEMA itashinda tena kule arusha
[12:49] <DarwinSurvivor> mogaj: alright, ping me when you return
[12:50] <kasii> jamani yeyote kati anayejua hii lugha ninayo andika hapa
[12:50] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: even when running it from STTY2?
[12:50] <sacarlson> thunder1212: you might see more of the shutdown event in tty mode
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !en| kasii
[12:50] <kasii> eti hamna anye elewa hilllo
[12:50] <kasii> jitokezeni basi
[12:50] <kasii> wote hamuelewi
[12:51] <pikaciu> thunder1212: try to kill (kill -9 ) the kworker
[12:52] <kasii> haya bwana ila washenzi kwanini lazima iwe kingeredha
[12:52] <DarwinSurvivor> thunder1212: please run the shutdown command from a TTY interface (Ctrl+Alt+F2, then login, then shutdown). that will hide the pretty dots and show actual messages of what  is happening
[12:53] <DarwinSurvivor> kasii: all your text is coming through as giberish, if it's a problem on your end please try reconnecting to IRC
[12:53] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do i type in the terminal kill -9
[12:54] <pikaciu> thunder1212: followed by the number given by ps -A relatd to kworker
[12:54] <pikaciu> as .es 2071
[12:55] <pikaciu> thunder1212: es kill -9 2071
[12:55] <thunder1212> pikaciu: so i enter " kill -9 2071 "
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> kworker has to with the difference between the apt-get and aptitude commands
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> has to do*
[12:56] <pikaciu> thunder1212: maybe is stuck
[12:56] <thunder1212> pikaciu: do i enter that plz confirm
[12:56] <pikaciu> yes
[12:56] <thunder1212> pikaciu: and whats getting stuck..
[12:57] <pikaciu> thunder1212: all the kworker processes
[12:57] <thunder1212> pikaciu: it says no such process
[12:58] <pikaciu> thunder1212: ps -A again go to the bottom and check the process number related to kworker and kill them
[12:58] <thunder1212> pikaciu: i think there are many kworker;s out there..
[12:58] <pikaciu> yes... may this  the issue
[12:59] <pikaciu> yes... maybe this is the issue
[13:00] <thunder1212> pikaciu: there are many kworker processes running which one to kill
[13:00] <pikaciu> all
[13:00] <pikaciu> thunder1212: all of them
[13:00] <thunder1212> pikaciu: then plz specify how do i kill all
[13:01] <pikaciu> thunder1212: in ps -a you can read the PID number... right '
[13:01] <pikaciu> ?
[13:01] <thunder1212> pikaciu: so u mean i kill them one by one..
[13:02] <pikaciu> thunder1212: with a pipe
[13:02] <MonkeyDu1t> thunder1212  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[13:03] <thunder1212> pikaciu: how to do that plzexplain..
[13:04] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: whats k worker doing on my system it should be there on kubuntu right
[13:05] <thunder1212> pikaciu: how to pipe ..
[13:05] <pikaciu> thunder1212: type ad sudo kill -9 followed by the PID number, ad example 2073. it's the ps -A command that gives you the exact number
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  the k means kernel, not kde
[13:05] <demicolon9> Hi I was wondering what the best channel would be to ask about general 'net and connection related questions. (vpn, proxy, etc) since I'll be moving overseas for a while but a have a few subscriptions here I'd like to keep.
[13:06] <pikaciu> thunder1212: but it's only a try... it's my opinion :)
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> demicolon9  try #network or #networking
[13:06] <oCean> demicolon9: try ##networking channel
[13:06] <demicolon9> MonkeyDust: & oCean Thanks a ton.
[13:07] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- how about doing that in apache
[13:07] <chenwj> anyone knows how I can fix this manually -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610618
[13:07] <oduku> i have apache server install on my ubuntu
[13:08] <oduku> sorry on remote ubuntu
[13:08] <pikaciu> i have to go bye
[13:09] <thunder1212> is there some way to reset my laptop to defaults..
[13:10] <Dr_willis> which defaults do you mean thunder1212
[13:10] <chenwj> ubottu: but I still have that problem
[13:10] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: could the guys in #lighttpd not get it going for you?
[13:10] <chenwj> :D
[13:10] <mephisto_> hello!
[13:11] <mephisto_>  I've updated my kernel and I think it's too new for the fglrx driver (it installs and runs but some errors are there) but the thing is I'd like to know if some of u guys gave the radeonHD a shot and what are your opinions about it. thanks a lot
[13:11] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- first , they r not replying at all...second i m having apache install on my remote ubuntu server..so wanna go with apache
[13:11] <chenwj> or where I can find nis postinst script?
[13:14] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: oh, well if you already have apache anyways, then may as well go with that!
[13:14] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: how much do you know about file permissions and apache configuration?
[13:14] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:- next to zero..plz help
[13:15] <DarwinSurvivor> alright, what is apach configured to do already (php website, file server, django, etc)?
[13:16] <DarwinSurvivor> oduku: ^^
[13:23] <demicolon9> Networking seems kind of slow. So I'll just ask here. Wife's got a paid subscription to crunchyroll and funimation. She wants to be able to continue to watch while in germany for a few years. Would it be best to go with a commercial proxy or vpn, or would it be feasable to leave one of our deskops behind at a friends place and turn that into a proxy?
[13:23] <demicolon9> Sorry for the semi-offtopic. If it helps at all, if I went with the third option, the left behind desktop would be running 'buntu.
[13:24] <Larss> Hello :)
[13:24] <Larss> Is anyone here?
[13:24] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: I'm assuming it's blocked in germany?
[13:24] <ksmukeshkumar> how to install update from terminal ?
[13:24] <demicolon9> Larss: I'm here, though not sure how much helpi'll be =P
[13:25] <DrCode> hi all
[13:25] <Larss> demicolon9: Hi, thanks. I hate dropping by like this, but I'm pretty sure I corrupted my whole HDD.
[13:25] <scialex> ksmukeshkumar: type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' without the quotes to upgrade your system
[13:25] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: It's crunchyroll isn't blocked but has less shows in germany. Funimation is blocked afaik
[13:25] <DrCode> I can\t use bluetooth headset in ubuntu 11.10
[13:25] <DrCode> I have install bluez-sco and so
[13:25] <DrCode> but still dosn't work
[13:25] <Larss> demicolon9: I tried to install Ubuntu as a partition but somehow ended up messing it all up, I also managed to ruin the ubuntu installation so that I couldn't boot from that. I tried booting for Windows 7 CD but got errors, and now I'm attemptying to zero out my HDD but it takes so long, do you have any suggestion? :v
[13:26] <arussel> I installed tomcat7 using the package, where can I put my setenv.sh ?
[13:26] <DrCode> it connec to bluetooth but no sound device, any idea?
[13:26] <DarwinSurvivor> ksmukeshkumar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Maintenance_commands
[13:27] <demicolon9> Larss: that's never good news.I'd probably fire up a live CDand check the SMART status. Is the drive making any clicking noises? If yes, it wasn't you who made a mistake, just the drive giving out. Otherwise: zeroing out is overkill, a new partition table should do the trick.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> DrCode,   you may need to select the default audio devices using the pavchooser or pavcontrol tool.
[13:27] <DrCode> I can't find headset device in pavchooser list
[13:27] <Larss> demicolon9: I'm a total noob though, and yes, it makes clicking sound sometimes. How do I do what you're saying? I tried booting from a live CD but it didn't work.
[13:27] <DrCode> I check it also in alsa mixer and so
[13:27] <malik_> hi all, Please
[13:27] <DrCode> somthing dosn't work
[13:28] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: what type of upload bandwidth does your friend have, and do they have a download/upload cap?
[13:28] <malik_> Please help me seyup a WIFI hotspot on my desktop machine
[13:28] <DrCode> in other headset device it work , but with jabra 2045 it dosn't
[13:28] <ksmukeshkumar> how to stop upgrade in terminal ?
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  have you installed blueman?
[13:28] <DarwinSurvivor> remember, if they proxy 10GB for you, their ISP counts it as 20GB (10GB down, and 10GB up)
[13:28] <DrCode> no
[13:28] <DrCode> I am using bluez-manager only
[13:28] <demicolon9> if DarwinSurvivor no cap. Regular comcast cable, so I'm guessing 12 down 1 up or similar
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  try blueman
[13:29] <fidel> Larss: the gui app 'disk utility' should be able to show a drives smart-status
[13:29] <DrCode> there is diffrent between blueman and bluz?
[13:29] <DrCode> MonkeyDust, , It better to remove bluez?
[13:29] <fidel> incase ir reports smart errors it might make sense to create a clone of your current disk to a backup drive and then continue investigating (backup first)
[13:29] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: ok, what application is used to watch the videos (if a web browser, what plugin is required)?
[13:29] <Larss> fidel: i can't get to any gui
[13:29] <misha_g> hello
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  yes, go ahead and try
[13:29] <Larss> fidel: No OS is functional
[13:30] <fidel> then is misread your input - my fault
[13:30] <Larss> It's alright, all input is appriciated.
[13:30] <zolw_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on my new laptop but i got the blank screen problem (with everything still running in the background). nomodestep doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? I tried 11.04 and had no luck there either
[13:30] <demicolon9> Larss: If the drive is making continual clicking noises there's a chance it's shot at the hardware level. Not much you can do there. Now a failing hard drive shouldn't prevent a live disc from booting, however. So try going into bios, find the option for boot priority and make sure the disc drive is number one. Once booted to the disk, open gparted and i can help you from there.
[13:30] <Larss> demicolon9: Not continual, just normal HD sounds.
[13:30] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: It's accessed via web broser, using flash
[13:31] <Larss> demicolon9: Actually.. It's my CD rom.
[13:31] <Larss> When I try to boot from the Windows 7 CD I get An unexpected I/O error has occured.
[13:32] <demicolon9> Larss: clean off the windows disc and try again, otherwise try booding a linux liveCD if you have one still. The ubuntu one should be fine
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: Do I have to boot from another type of CD?
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: How do I clean it?
[13:32] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:32] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:32] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:32] <ksmukeshkumar> please tell me how stop upgrade in between ?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> DrCode  correction, i have both bluez and blueman installed
[13:32] <demicolon9> Larss: the ubuntu disc would work for example. Any linux livedisc really if you happen to have one layinga round.
[13:32] <Larss> demicolon9: I can boot into kernel
[13:33] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: hmm, apparently flash is naughty and ignores proxy settings if it can make a direct connection on its own (which it will be able to, it will just not get the stream)
[13:33] <Larss> demicolon9: I'll boot into kernel and ask for help from there, haha
[13:33] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: sad, maybe I can get around that with a Virtual Machine, though.
[13:33] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: that's going to be a problem now matter WHAT method you chose, so let's skip that part for now
[13:34] <demicolon9> larss: okay, let me know when you're booted
[13:34] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:34] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:34] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:34] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: makes sense
[13:34] <Larss> demicolon9Text, Forensics, Debug or Memtest?
[13:34] <Larss> demicolon9: There's a few bootoptions on this disc
[13:35] <DarwinSurvivor> demicolon9: the absolute 100% easiest proxy server setup i've ever seen (and used) is setting up an ssh server, then logging into it using "ssh -D <port>". You can then use that port as a socks proxy in firefox and you are tunelled (except for a few naughty plugins that need a little kick in the butt)
[13:35] <jewsus> hey , is on this server any backtrack support channel? ty
[13:35] <zykotick9> !backtrack | jewsus
[13:35] <Larss> demicolon9: I want to use this disc to make it possible to use my Windows 7 CD
[13:35] <demicolon9> Larss give me a sec. I haven't been to command line only in a while. A tad bit rusty. Just for getting an idea of our options before proceeding. What OS discs do you have availabe?
[13:35] <Larss> demicolon9: A windows 7 CD and a Linux OS
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> jewsus  ##backtrack-linux
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> jewsus  #backtrack-linux
[13:36] <jewsus> ty very much indeed
[13:36] <Larss> demicolon9: I booted into the linux CD and I've got a few boot options, and my ultimate goal is to make the HD able to accept and install from my Windows 7 CD
[13:36] <adrtod> Hello, I am going to install the beta ubuntu 12.04 precise pangolin. I was wondering what happens when the release is available. Will I have to re-install the release or the update is automatic ?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| adrtod
[13:37] <zykotick9> !final | adrtod
[13:37] <demicolon9> Larss: Okay thanks. Do you know what distro exactly is on the disk?
[13:37] <tiago_> hello?
[13:37] <Larss> demicolon9: Backtrack
[13:37] <tiago_> geek stuff arround here
[13:38] <adrtod> tanks a lot, then i will proceed ;)
[13:38] <demicolon9> Larss: thanks
[13:38] <tiago_> im a webdeveloper u people need something?
[13:39] <bazhang> tiago_, is that related to ubuntu support?
[13:39] <DarwinSurvivor> tiago_: uduko was in earlier asking about serving an xml file over the network with apache, he said he'd be back in a little while
[13:39] <tiago_> :P
[13:40] <demicolon9> larss from what I gather there shouldbe a graphical environment we can boot to
[13:40] <Larss> There is
[13:40] <demicolon9> so just find out which boot option leads there
[13:40] <Larss> I forgot I didn't enable discrete graphics
[13:40] <Larss> But I did it now.
[13:40] <Larss> I'll get into the GUI, 2sec.
[13:41] <DarwinSurvivor> if anyone has a question and has not yet gotten a response (or has been dropped), please re-ask your question now
[13:41] <Teduardo> what do you have to hit to make the grub menu show on Ubuntu?
[13:41] <bazhang> DarwinSurvivor, there s no need for that
[13:41] <Teduardo> when it's booting
[13:41] <Dr_willis> grub2 = hold shift as it boots
[13:41] <zykotick9> Teduardo: hold SHIFT after bios
[13:41] <zolwsprint> hey, can anyone help with liveCD booting to black screen? nomodeset doest solve the problem
[13:41] <bazhang> Teduardo, shift
[13:41] <mentoc> I installed a newer kernel but now my wireless device doesn't work. Is there a way to get the old drivers over to the new install?
[13:41] <MarKsaitis> how do I perform rolling release upgrade?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> grub1 - tap escape i belive
[13:42] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, ubuntu is not rolling release
[13:42] <Teduardo> thanks =)
[13:42] <scotty^> zolwsprint: what video hardware do you have?
[13:42] <CyL> Hi, the next upcoming release (12.04) will also be mainstreamed in the server distro?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> CyL,  mainstreamed?
[13:42] <DarwinSurvivor> bazhang: any other suggestions, a lot of people are shy about asking a question 10 minutes later if nobody noticed it the first time
[13:42] <bazhang> CyL, #ubuntu+1 please
[13:42] <mentoc> I can find the driver's .h header files but no .ko files (3.2 kernel)
[13:43] <Larss> demicolon9: Soon there, my computer isn't the fastest around.
[13:43] <Dr_willis> mentoc,  reinstall the drivers after you are booted to the new kernel is the normal way
[13:43] <demicolon9> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks, sorry for the late reply. I'll look intot hat option =D
[13:43] <bazhang> DarwinSurvivor, Yes. answer if you see a question to you can help with.
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, I dont know, whatever the magic word is! I have 11.04, how do I upgrade to 11.10 using a command?
[13:43] <MarKsaitis> thats what I want
[13:43] <CyL> Dr_willis: Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker, I mean if Ubuntu Server will also have a LTS 12.04 version
[13:43] <demicolon9> Larss no worries I have all day =P
[13:43] <ssssss> Help me please. I'm with Xubuntu 11.10... I've only changed one setting (icon size) from SettingEditor > xsettings > gtk > iconsizes
[13:43] <bazhang> !upgrade | MarKsaitis please have a read here
[13:43] <ssssss> I just put the value "gtk-menu=26x26:gtk-button=26x26"
[13:43] <ssssss> And now xserver doesn't start!! :'(
[13:43] <Dr_willis> CyL,  12.04 is a lts release. for both.
[13:43] <Larss> demicolon9: Woo, it worked. I really thought I got a Blackscreen of death there.
[13:44] <DarwinSurvivor> mentoc: do they exist in a deb package, that would be the simplest solution
[13:44] <Larss> demicolon9: So intense.
[13:44] <demicolon9> Larss awesome, now fire up gparted.
[13:44] <Larss> Alright, give me a second.
[13:44] <CyL> bazhang: Thanks for your advice, but please consider that maybe this could be a proper place as well, this is not a technical question
[13:44] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: It is the rt2x00pci driver which I can find in my /usr/src
[13:44] <DarwinSurvivor> bazhang: there were a few questions that were asked a long time ago when it was really busy that never got touched
[13:44] <Larss> demicolon9: Gparted is standard on a live CD?
[13:44] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: not that I can find it, but I mean I can see the .h files and dirs
[13:45] <bazhang> CyL, the place for 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[13:45] <MarKsaitis> how do I know whether I have desktop or server ubuntu?
[13:45] <demicolon9> I read that backtrack would have it, if not we can worka round it. But it's the tool I know best
[13:45] <CyL> Dr_willis: Thanks for you helpfull advice
[13:45] <Larss> demicolon9: Alright, second.
[13:45] <demicolon9> I can't type today... wow.
[13:45] <mentoc> /usr/src/linux-3.2.14/drivers/net/wireless/rtx200/*
[13:45] <Larss> demonspork: I tried doing gparted in kernel but it's not installed
[13:45] <Larss> wops
[13:46] <CyL> bazhang: This is not a specific 12.04 discussion, it is a general question about Ubuntu release schedule. I will ask there as well.
[13:46] <zolwsprint> scotty^: AMD Radeon HD 6490M
[13:46] <MarKsaitis> how do I know whether I have desktop or server ubuntu?
[13:46] <DarwinSurvivor> mentoc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860574
[13:46] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: they are both the same
[13:46] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: the desktop edition has a gui, the server not
[13:47] <Larss> demicolon9: how do I star gparted?
[13:47] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: rest is the same (12.04) before the i386 kernel was different (pae/non pae)
[13:47] <MarKsaitis> I see =)
[13:47] <imyousuf> I have defined 'Host_Alias HOME = 192.168.1.101' and '%admin HOME = (ALL) ALL' using visudo; this blocks sudo from every IP. Can someone please help me in what I am doing wrong?
[13:47] <zolwsprint> scotty^: actually no sorry its  AMD Radeon HD 6545G2
[13:47] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: do you remember the installation? if it was done with a mouse, you have desktop edition, if it was by keyboard it could be server or alternate
[13:47] <demicolon9> okay
[13:47] <mentoc> DarwinSurvivor: I think this will get me started in the right direction. Thank you.
[13:48] <demicolon9> Larss: try typing gparted from a terminal window
[13:48] <demicolon9> if it's not installed, oh well, we can use fdisk instead
[13:48] <Larss> It's not installed
[13:48] <demicolon9> okay
[13:48] <demicolon9> then take a look at this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html
[13:49] <Larss> demicolon9: Okay, thanks.
[13:49] <Larss> demicolon9: I have three partitions, Linux, Extended and Linux Swap/Solaris
[13:49] <demicolon9> Larss any data you wish to keep?
[13:50] <Larss> Nope
[13:50] <Larss> ZERO
[13:50] <Larss> Already lost all my Windows files.
[13:50] <Larss> As I am aware of
[13:50] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssss: has anyone helped you yet?
[13:50] <demicolon9> do you intend to dual boot in the future or do you just want just windows for now?
[13:50] <Larss> I'll just use Virtual Box.
[13:50] <demicolon9> works, ok
[13:50] <ssssss> DarwinSurvivor: no :( now I've gone in ubuntu-italy and they're trying
[13:50] <Larss> What are the downsides with vbox?
[13:51] <demicolon9> Larss speeeed, hardware support and speed.
[13:51] <Larss> Ah
[13:51] <scotty^> zolwsprint:  The first one sound more likely.  The outoput of lspci -vvnn |grep VGA will tell you for sure
[13:51] <imyousuf> I have defined 'Host_Alias HOME = 192.168.1.101' and '%admin HOME = (ALL) ALL' using visudo; this blocks sudo from every IP. Can someone please help me in what I am doing wrong? (re-run)
[13:51] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssss: what desktop are you using? (unity, gnome-shell, kde, lmde, xfce, etc)
[13:51] <Larss> I'll just end up ruining my HDD if I dual boot, I guess.
[13:51] <Larss> demicolon9: Actually, I'll dual boot. Nevermind that
[13:51] <demicolon9> larss if you want an easy way to get a feel for linux try kanotix, works with most hardware out of the box, complete with 3d acceleration.No need for an install since it's a liveCD
[13:52] <Larss> it's mostly due to messing up my partitions,
[13:52] <Larss> Haha
[13:52] <scotty^> But I think you will need the Precise kernel for a HD6000 card to work.  I don't think the Oneiric kernel is new enough to have the necessary pieces of code.  Hold on while I try to check.
[13:52] <Larss> So, what do I do next?
[13:52] <ssssss> DarwinSurvivor: xfce. They are said me to rm the entire home directory and reboot (because the system has been installed today)
[13:52] <demicolon9> ok. if you want to dual boot, I'd create three partitions. I usually do 1/2 or 3/4 of the disk windows, 2 gigs swap, rest linux
[13:53] <Larss> demicolon9: Alright, but I have to install Windows first, right?
[13:53] <demicolon9> yes
[13:53] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please pastebin your entire sudoers files
[13:53] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please pastebin your entire sudoers file
[13:53] <Larss> Ok,
[13:53] <imyousuf> ok DarwinSurvivor
[13:53] <Larss> demicolon9: Can I merge the partition table first?
[13:54] <demicolon9> actually so we don't confuse windows, let's do this! create a new partition table (discarding the old one) then create just a partition for windows and leavethe rest unformatted
[13:54] <Larss> Alright
[13:54] <L3mce> scotty^: I know that the HD3000 will go on Lucid with accel and HDMI audio with Natty modules backported.
[13:54] <demicolon9> so create just one partition, but make it less than the full size of the disk
[13:54] <Larss> How much less?
[13:55] <demicolon9> as much less as you want room for linux, +2GB
[13:55] <demicolon9> depending on the distro and HD size 16-32 GB for linux is plenty
[13:55] <Larss> Alright.
[13:55] <Larss> demicolon9: How do I write a new partition table? It doesn't say apparently.
[13:56] <Larss> demicolon9: Sorry for being bad, never used linux.
[13:56] <ssssssss> It didn't work
[13:56] <ssssssss> :(
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> demicolon9  in a terrminal, type sudo fdisk -l to see what it looks like
[13:56] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: ok, what exactly is it doing right now?
[13:56] <demicolon9> larss what MonkeyDust said
[13:56] <Larss> I did, there's three partitions there.
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> wrong nick, sorry guys
[13:57] <Larss> sda1 2 and 5
[13:57] <ssssssss> DarwinSurvivor: login screen appears. I click on username, and for 1sec a black screen with writes appears, and disappears instantly
[13:57] <demicolon9> MonkeyDust: no prob thanks for the help. I haven't used fdisk in ages, so you chiming is is great.
[13:57] <ssssssss> if I try Guestuser it works. I'm on it now
[13:57] <demicolon9> *chiming in
[13:57] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/0XUR7Ke2 Here is the sudoers file
[13:58] <zolwsprint> scotty^: how do i get to a command line though from the live cd boot menu? sorry i'm new to it!
[13:58] <demicolon9> larss looks like you just type n
[13:58] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: It does not matter from which host I try sudo, it still restricts me from executing it.
[13:58] <demicolon9> larss this guide is better: http://download.parallels.com/desktop/v5/docs/en/Parallels_Desktop_Users_Guide/23117.htm
[13:59] <ssssssss> DarwinSurvivor: I tried to run "startx" from the terminal and it gives an error
[13:59] <StudentDerHerzen> hi
[13:59] <StudentDerHerzen> who knows some good Sexchannel for germany
[13:59] <ikonia> StudentDerHerzen: please don't ask again in here
[13:59] <bazhang> StudentDerHerzen, wrong network
[14:00] <Larss> demicolon9: Unable to open /dev/hda
[14:00] <ikonia> Larss: nothing references /dev/hda any more
[14:00] <ikonia> Larss: what are you trying to do ?
[14:01] <Larss> oh it's sda
[14:01] <Larss> Sorry
[14:01] <demicolon9> Larss does it work that way?
[14:01] <Larss> It worked.
[14:01] <Larss> I've fdisked into my HD
[14:01] <StudentDerHerzen> wer mag bei nem Porno mitmachen
[14:01] <demicolon9> Nice
[14:01] <Larss> and I've run the new command
[14:01] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit | ssssssss
[14:01] <Larss> Now I get two options, logical or primary partition
[14:01] <demicolon9> then when done just do w
[14:02] <Larss> Do I make a primary or logical? I guess primary?
[14:02] <demicolon9> primary
[14:02] <Larss> Also, it says (1-4)
[14:02] <Larss> behind
[14:02] <Larss> 1?
[14:02] <Larss> so, primary 1
[14:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: install pastebinit, then run "startx 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[14:02] <demicolon9> either number works, but roll with 1
[14:02] <Larss> demicolon9: Partition 1 is already defined.
[14:02] <Larss> Delete before re-adding
[14:03] <demicolon9> hmm
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: what are you trying to actually do ?
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I'm not sure
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: ok, so why are you typing random commands ?
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I'm trying to repartition my system and make a partition for my windows 7 system
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: Because my HD is corrupted
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> !fdisk
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: corrupted ?
[14:03] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Umm, not sure how to boot the LiveCD to a command line - you might have to ask someone else about that or search the Ubuntu Wiki.  But first try this.  When you get the black screen press CTRL+ALT+F2 and see if you get a virtual terminal.
[14:03] <Larss> ikonia: I can't boot any windows cds
[14:03] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: hang on - don't just throw random stuff at him
[14:03] <ikonia> Larss: ok, that's nothing to do with your hard disk
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: your CD drive is seperate from your hard disk
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: Yeah, I know. I'm not good at this.
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: that's fine
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  just testing if there was a message associated to it
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: I can boot but I get an error.
[14:04] <tafelpoot> So, I have a server which is unreachable via ssh... I had a shell open but I lost it by doing a ps aux| grep ssh, now it just hangs... ls didn't give any problems
[14:04] <ikonia> Larss: ok, what's the error you get ?
[14:04] <Larss> ikonia: Ahh, let me try to remember.
[14:04] <pangolin> MonkeyDust, test in PM with the bot please
[14:04] <tafelpoot> does anyone have an idea how to troubleshoot further?
[14:05] <demicolon9> 08:31] <Larss> When I try to boot from the Windows 7 CD I get An unexpected I/O error has occured.
[14:05] <Larss> An unexpected I
[14:05] <Larss> yes
[14:05] <Larss> that
[14:05] <ikonia> Larss: does your computer only have Windows on it ?
[14:05] <Larss> No, only linux.
[14:05] <sssssssss01> pastebininit id not found in repositories
[14:05] <tafelpoot> DarwinSurvivor: still there?
[14:06] <ikonia> Larss: is Linux installed ? or running from a livecd ?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> sssssssss01  it's pastebinit, not pastebininit
[14:06] <sssssssss01> lol thx
[14:06] <Larss> It's running from a livecd right now, but my linux is corrupted due to me partly zeroing my HDD ikonia
[14:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: install pastebinit, then run "startx 2>&1 | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[14:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ssssssss: add the -b http.... part
[14:06] <ikonia> Larss: ok, can I make a suggestion to make this easier for you
[14:06] <Larss> ikonia: go ahead
[14:07] <zykotick9> DarwinSurvivor: why try to get startx output?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show the same/similar info.
[14:07] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: please paste the output of "id"
[14:07] <sssssssss01> ok
[14:07] <ikonia> Larss: sort out installing windws, that will partition it for you, then deal with Linux
[14:07] <Larss> demicolon9: Thanks for the help by the way
[14:07] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/0XUR7Ke2
[14:07] <Larss> ikoniaI will
[14:07] <DarwinSurvivor> zykotick9: oh yeah, forgot about that :P
[14:07] <ikonia> Larss: you'll find it easier to install windows, then deal with Linux
[14:08] <Larss> ikonia: But I can't boot my windows 7 CD
[14:08] <Larss> ikonia: So I can't install it.
[14:08] <ikonia> Larss: ok, that's a seperate issue
[14:08] <ikonia> Larss: the guys in ##windows can explain the process to get replacement media
[14:08] <pangolin> ikonia, wouldn't partially zeroing his HDD cause errors? would he not need to complete the job first?
[14:09] <ikonia> pangolin: when he installs windows, it will create a new partition table so the partial zero's on the legacy partitions won't matter
[14:09] <pangolin> ah, makes sense
[14:09] <ikonia> pangolin: although the data doesn't get changed when the partition table is rebuilt, all reference to it will
[14:09] <mtrd`w> hi, i'm trying to set up a ssh server on my computer, all i can find tells me how to add id-rsa keys. the fact is that i would like to find how to set it up, with the password asking
[14:10] <DarwinSurvivor> mtrd`w: is there any particular reason you want to use passwords? id-rsa keys are WAY, WAY more secure and you can password protect the keys themselves
[14:10] <zykotick9> mtrd`w: password is default.  "sudo apt-get install ssh" will install client/server.
[14:11] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: Is the link that you wanted? or something else?
[14:11] <mtrd`w> DarwinSurvivor: yes, there is. i use id-rsa keys on other connections :)
[14:11] <mtrd`w> zykotick9: is it then automaticly configured ?
[14:11] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: just paste the output of the "id" command (it should only be one line)
[14:11] <spyvsspy> how do I force an oldger version of a package?
[14:11] <MarKsaitis> Who told me that I cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.10?!!! In openvz?
[14:11] <zykotick9> mtrd`w: pretty much to a working state ya
[14:11] <spyvsspy> older version to install   mean*
[14:12] <mtrd`w> alright
[14:12] <spyvsspy> I need  libebook1.2-10 but 11.10 doesnt provide it
[14:12] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: uid=1002(sample) gid=1002(sample) groups=111(admin),1002(sample)
[14:12] <mtrd`w> thank you zykotick9! :)
[14:12] <MarKsaitis> Who told me that I cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.10?!!! In openvz? It's easilly durable and works just fine
[14:12] <L3mce> does Xorg.0.log exist if you don't have an xorg.conf? using xrander or whatever?
[14:13] <L3mce> I guess it still would.
[14:13] <zykotick9> L3mce: /var/log - xorg.conf doesn't "usually" matter for the log
[14:13] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, no one told you that
[14:13] <L3mce> Yeah... X is X... was just curious.
[14:13] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, somebody did =) I cant remember who now
[14:13] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: alright, the problem is that 192.168.1.1 is NOT your lan, that is your router. you need something like 192.168.1.1/24
[14:13] <mklappstuhl> Hey, I'm trying to install the soundcli gem after installing Ruby according to the wiki... I get this error though: Could not create Makefile due to some reason[...]
[14:14] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, did you have an actual support question
[14:14] <mklappstuhl> I have ruby-1.8dev installed
[14:14] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: that will allow any admin-grouped users from any ip starting with 192.168.1. to use sudo
[14:14] <MarKsaitis> the only problem is that apache2 service isnt running anymore by default
[14:14] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: you're back
[14:14] <scotty^> zolwsprint: OK, I've checked and KMS support should be in the Natty and Oneiric kernels, which should allow you to boot.  But for OpenGL demos and games (and probably WebGL too) you will need the fixes in the Oneiric kernel.  I'm not sure why it's not booting for you as I think you said you had Oneiric?
[14:14] <sssssssss02> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917477
[14:14] <L3mce> mklappstuhl: The reason would be important. Typically if it is a missing header file, you would install the package which provides that header
[14:14] <sssssssss02> sorry
[14:14] <sssssssss02> is the connection
[14:15] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: I want to test with individual hosts too, since thats something I want to achieve as well
[14:15] <L3mce> header = something.h
[14:15] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: please post output of "ps x" and "ps aux"
[14:15] <zolwsprint> I was trying 11.10 yeah
[14:15] <sssssssss02> ook
[14:15] <zolwsprint> it does boot, but the screen blanks (still sounds etc of a successful bootup)
[14:16] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, yes i do. Is sysv system deactivated in ubuntu 11.10?
[14:17] <bazhang> !upstart > MarKsaitis
[14:17] <MarKsaitis> as my chkconfig says apache2 is on, but it doesnt auto start. service apache2 start works fine
[14:17] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: Any idea how to do it for per host basis?
[14:17] <L3mce> mklappstuhl: Before you try again, remember to run make clean
[14:17] <MarKsaitis> bazhang, my question is, is sysv deactivated in ubuntu 11.10
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: yes it is
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv init is no longer in the ubuntu release
[14:18] <Zenger> hi guys, so I'm having  a problem. I want to run a soft called emma, it's a python utility for database .
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, ok. Can I then delete /etc/init.d folder?
[14:18] <Que> I have written a turorial on how to set up a git repository on Ubuntu and use it with X-Code, http://www.querika.com/?page_id=109
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: no
[14:18] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: there is still an init process, it's just no longer a sysv init
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, and, why apache2 startup scripts havent been migrated to the new upstart system by release upgrade?
[14:18] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: what do you mean?
[14:18] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, why not if its all gone =)
[14:19] <zolwsprint> scotty^:it does boot, but the screen blanks (still sounds etc of a successful bootup)
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: because I've just told you, it's not
[14:19] <prodnix> hi all, I have a problem which i cant seem to fix. (Reading database ... 85%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[14:19] <prodnix>  files list file for package 'file' is missing final newline. Any ideas?
[14:19] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, but new init process works with /etc/init and not /etc/init.d!
[14:19] <Zenger> But the problem is i use LAMPP (xampp for linux ), which locates it's mysqld.sock in an internal folder, this emma soft tries to use the usual /var/run/mysqld sock, but there is no file.
[14:19] <Zenger> I want to know if I can make a ln to that sock, and if emma will use it properly
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: if you want to delete /etc/init.d, please do so, but remember, I warned you not to
[14:19] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: You mentioned to fix it for a network address, but I want to achieve for a single host, any idea how I can achieve that?
[14:19] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, so is sysv in my 11.10 system or is it not?
[14:19] <xilo> anyone know why the ubuntu software just sits there with loading screen forever when i try to click on my other synced box?
[14:19] <zykotick9> !xampp | Zenger
[14:19] <Zenger> or can I change somehow the code of emma, since it's a python build
[14:19] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: "no" as I've told you, sysv init is no longer installed on ubuntu
[14:20] <DarwinSurvivor> prodnix: is this a repo package, or a downloaded .deb file?
[14:20] <Zenger> GREAT :)
[14:20] <Zenger> zykotick9, thank you
[14:20] <eniltalF> Does anyone know if 12.04 is going to come with Gnome 3 as an option, or will it have to be manually installed?
[14:20] <oduku> DarwinSurvivor:-  i have install it for running evergreen ils software
[14:20] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, if it is no longer in there, who uses /etc/init.d folder? Which system? And why my not working /etc/init.d scripts have not been migrated to /etc/init ?
[14:20] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: No idea, im just trying to upgrade and get hit with this error
[14:20] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Yeah, sorry.  I meant to say I'm not sure why it's booting to a blank screen.  Are you booting the Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD?
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, use that hosts address (like you did with 192.168.1.102)
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, use that hosts address (like you did with 192.168.1.101)
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> eniltalF  gnome 3 is default since some time now
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:17:08) sssssssss02: ps aux --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917484
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:17:08) sssssssss02: ps x ----> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917485
[14:21] <sssssssss02> (16:20:32) sssssssss02: (I'm with guest user, and switching from it to CtrlALT-F1 to paste you commands..... for this reason there is firefox, and others
[14:21] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I'll say it one last time, there is still an init system, it still has legacy scripts and references to the init.d folder, if YOU wish to delete it, please do so, but you have been warned
[14:21] <imyousuf> but that ain't working DarwinSurvivor, any idea why?
[14:21] <DarwinSurvivor> eniltalF: 11.10 already has gnome3 as an option, just install "gnome-shell" and have fun
[14:21] <zolwsprint> scotty^: well usb but i tried cd and had the same issue
[14:22] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: This error appears every time i try doin anythin in apt-get
[14:22] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, but I thought init sysv has been replaced by upstart init system?
[14:22] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it has
[14:22] <eniltalF> Sorry, I meant GNOME Shell...
[14:22] <DarwinSurvivor> prodnix: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin; sudo apt-get update
[14:23] <xreal> What parameters do *you* use to run iozone?
[14:23] <MarKsaitis> so, ikonia, do you mean some upstart init system scripts in /etc/init have some references to scripts in /etc/init.d ?
[14:23] <scotty^> zolwsprint: Are you booting the Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:23] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: you haven't used 192.168.1.101 in your config, all you did was name it IMRAN, but then never used it.
[14:23] <demicolon9> I'll be off, thanks again everyone.
[14:24] <itaylor57> MarKsaitis, you might try reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[14:24] <Zx432> Do proprietary drivers for nvidi update automatically?
[14:24] <auronandace> eniltalF: gnome shell has been available since 11.10
[14:24] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: instead of ignoring what I'm telling you and asking the same question over and over, why don't you actually read the scripts in /etc/init.d/ and then decide if you can delete /etc/init.ld
[14:24] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: the only host alias you *used* was LAN which is only 192.168.1.1
[14:24] <zolwsprint> scotty^: yep it is 11.10
[14:24] <zykotick9> Zx432: did you download from nvidia.com?
[14:24] <Zx432> no
[14:24] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: that is intentional, is it a problem if I define and don't use? I am trying to do sudo from 1.1 but failing
[14:24] <eniltalF> Thanks. I am still using 10.04 - haven't found a need to upgrade yet.
[14:24] <zykotick9> Zx432: if it's from ubuntu repo, it will update (like everything else)
[14:24] <prodnix> DarwinSurvivor: Didnt help, get the same problem again when i "apt-get upgrade"
[14:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Zx432: if you install them from the repository, then yes
[14:24] <Zx432> Ok
[14:25] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: what computer is assigned 192.168.1.1?
[14:25] <Zenger> zykotick9, using tasksel i've installed that stack build, how can I run it and in general work with it ? is there any small doc or tut ?
[14:25] <imyousuf> even commenting unused Host_Alias does not help DarwinSurvivor
[14:25] <Zx432> I used the ubuntu manager for the added drivers. I don't know how it is called in English.
[14:26] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: my computer is 1.101, I first logged into 1.1 and then from there to the computer the sudoer is configured to.
[14:26] <zykotick9> Zenger: i'm unware of good documentation link sorry.
[14:26] <zykotick9> Zx432: that's the ubuntu-repo version - you're all good
[14:26] <sssssssss02> ps aux --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917484
[14:26] <sssssssss02> ps x ----> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/917485
[14:26] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor (I'm with guest user, and switching from it to CtrlALT-F1 to paste you commands..... for this reason there is firefox, and others
[14:26] <Zenger> could you at least tell me where the www folder , the php.ini, apache's httpd and files are located ?
[14:27] <ikonia> sssssssss02: stop that
[14:27] <Zx432> Is there any update planned?
[14:27] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: you seem to has a user 115 with a bunch of xorg stuff already running which seems to be causing a conflict.
[14:27] <sssssssss02> ikonia: stop what..?
[14:27] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, im not ignoring anything. I am repeating again! I have apache and other startup scripts in /etc/init.d . Apache isnt starting automatically anymore. I just confirmed that this is because sysv init is gone (BYE BYE TO IT). Therefore, none of my scripts /etc/init.d get executed anymore. As I understand from all of you, only scripts from /etc/init get executed now. And if you all say that new init system call
[14:27] <MarKsaitis> ed upstart is only using scripts from /etc/init (Not from /etc/init.d!!), then who else uses /etc/init.d scripts inside my system and how technically?
[14:27] <ikonia> sssssssss02: you've posted that link again
[14:27] <zykotick9> Zenger: /var/www - you you need to look into hosts-available/hosts-enabled stuff.  good luck.
[14:27] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: read the scripts, you'll get a better understanding
[14:27] <Zenger> zykotick9, ty
[14:28] <zykotick9> Zenger: /etc/apache2/ for config stuff
[14:28] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: if I exit from here, I can't chat........ And I've already tried without it and it's the same thing. What can I do?
[14:28] <karl_> absolutely nothing
[14:29] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, I did read the scripts in /etc/init.d . So what? i know what a damn script is. What is the damn point of them being in there and not being in use because MRSYSV (The chap who layed with these scripts) is no longer ALIVE.
[14:29] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: do you have another computer you can chat from?
[14:29] <scotty^> !sysvinit
[14:29] <scotty^> !sysv
[14:29] <Zx432> Flash and HTML5 are causing problems for me. They are lagging. I tried everything. I think it must be the drivers. The system is strong enough and in works ok in Win7.
[14:29] <scotty^> !upstart
[14:30] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: not everything is migrated to upstart, some references will still remain until they are all migrated. The later the ubuntu version, the less remain
[14:30] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: actually not :(
[14:30] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: if you can't get X to start, how did you start the X session you are now for chatting?
[14:30] <prodnix> Any other ideas for "(Reading database ... 85%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package 'file' is missing final newline"? happens whenever I try to installsomething with apt
[14:30] <sssssssss02> DarwinSurvivor: I said: with my user "Mauro" doesn't start... with Guest User yes..
[14:32] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: any suggestion on how to fix the sudoers file?
[14:32] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, so here is my question again, with some details: in 11.04 these scripts were launched automatically - I suppose sysv did that. Now, after upgrade to 11.10, they are not launched - I suppose thats because sysv isnt launching them because there is no sysv. If nobody is launching them, why did release upgrade did not migrate my apache2 init.d script to the upstart? And wha tdo I do about it?
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv was not in 11.04
[14:33] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, if sysv was not in 11.04, then whooo launched apache2 for me all the time?
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sysv was removed 9.10 I think from memory
[14:33] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: upstart did
[14:34] <MarKsaitis> if apache2 startup script is in init.d and not in init folder, then how upstart could have launched it for me?
[14:34] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: as I've told you 3 times now, there are still legacy references to sysv init scripts from upstart as they get migrated
[14:35] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, ok. Which one of upstart scripts launch apache2 legacy script then?
[14:35] <MarKsaitis> as there is no apache.conf in there
[14:35] <ikonia> I have no idea without looking, that's why I suggested looking at the scripts
[14:35] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: the fact that there is no apache2.conf suggests that "may" be your problem and your upgrade didn't go smooth
[14:36] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, there was no apache2.conf even before the upgrade but it was launching
[14:36] <MarKsaitis> so here u go
[14:36] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yes, i think i found the problem, just a sec
[14:36] <imyousuf> sure
[14:36] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: can you create a brand-new user and see if they can log in (as a test user)?
[14:37] <sssssssss02> no worry anymore DarwinSurvivor. thanks for help!
[14:37] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: the hosts entry is not what you think it is http://serverfault.com/questions/90166/defining-hosts-in-sudoers-file
[14:38] <DarwinSurvivor> sssssssss02: did you solve the problem?
[14:39] <MarKsaitis> how do I remove apache2 completelly?
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> I wan't to reinstall it
[14:40] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: specifying the host allows for the same sudoers configuration to be used across an entire network and only have certain rules apply for certain hosts. it does NOT check which computer a user connected from
[14:40] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: package manager, purge
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> ikonia why not remove?
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> ok got it from --help
[14:41] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: ah! Thanks, then that is the issue!
[14:41] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: yep
[14:41] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: any idea how it can be achieved though?
[14:41] <MarKsaitis> After this operation, 36.9 kB disk space will be freed.
[14:41] <MarKsaitis>  ------ Doesnt make much sense ikonia. I did apt-get purge apache2
[14:41] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: you do remember you where told NOT to upgrade your openvz host ?
[14:41] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, why on earth not
[14:42] <iceroot> how to get the source-package of package foobar from 11.10 when i am on 12.04 with apt-get? or do we have other tools for that?
[14:42] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: you had this explained to you ysterday in #ubuntu+1
[14:42] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: do you remember that conversation
 Who told me that I cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.10?!!! In openvz?
[14:42] <MarKsaitis> --> methyl__ (~methyl@CPE-24-211-1-211.wi.res.rr.com) has joined ##linux
 MarKsaitis: some Ubuntu newb, no doubt
[14:42] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: i told you
[14:42] <ashmew2> Hi , just installed Ubuntu on a notebook i had lying around , I have to connect to a Wifi Server , but cant seem to , could anyone help me troubleshoot the problem ?
[14:42] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: was it not you I was talking to yesteday in #ubuntu+1 ?
[14:42] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: i can't think why you would want to
[14:43] <DarwinSurvivor> your user should be authenticated by their password (or preferably their public key), not which server they connected from.
[14:43] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, iceroot - reisio from #linux thinks that you said bolex and that release upgrade isnt a problem from 11.04 to 11.10
[14:43] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: was it not you I was talking to yesteday in #ubuntu+1 ?
[14:43] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: ikonia and me told you about the openvz issues when upgrading
[14:43] <MarKsaitis> it was me, read what im saying, it all works fine.
[14:44] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: I do not want users doing 'sudo *' commands from outside my network, I want them to be able to access their user account but not sudo from outside private network, but access sudo privileges when within my network
[14:44] <MarKsaitis> u said system wouldnt launch. no such issues whatsoever
[14:44] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it doesn't you system isn't working, your asking for help as your system isn't working
[14:44] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I didn't say it wouldn't launch
[14:44] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: what is your use case for sudo deciding on privileges according to the source IP address. remember, you can always filter ssh logins by IP via iptables
[14:44] <ashmew2> imyousuf: dont put them in the /etc/sudoers file
[14:44] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: i said it may not launch
[14:44] <MarKsaitis> these systems never just work, thats why everyone is here
[14:45] <MarKsaitis> anyways, I do not think I have any upgrade openvz related issues
[14:45] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: could well be
[14:45] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: you already have an "admin" group. just don't add any untrusted users to the admin group and you will be fine
[14:45] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: that I am already doing
[14:45] <MarKsaitis> anyways, what is the method to remove apache2, as apt-get purge apache2 only wants to remove 39Kb of space. Any experts here?
[14:46] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: you've been told the way
[14:46] <DarwinSurvivor> remember, if a user can log into your server, they can they login to the server again FROM the server, and they would then be connecting from "within the network". blowing that security layer to bits in 5 seconds
[14:46] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: agreed!
[14:46] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: apt-get autoremove
[14:47] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor that brings me to another query, what are standard security steps a server admin should take?
[14:47] <MarKsaitis> autoremove = 0
[14:47] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: apache2 is pulling other packages which will not be removed automaticly when using apt-get remove --purge
[14:47] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: i wouldn't bother trying to get sudo to check the origin ip, it's also easy to fake that. just filter ssh login IP sources as best as possible, and only give sudo permissions to *users* you trust. that should be pretty much all you need.
[14:47] <MarKsaitis> well here you go iceroot . I have just been told that it is the way, even though it isnt
[14:47] <iceroot> MarKsaitis: apt-get remove --purge apache2
[14:48] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: many roads lead to the same destination.
[14:48] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I told you "open package manager, select package, purge" I didn't say "apt-get purge"
[14:48] <iceroot> ah ok purge is now the same as "remove --purge"
[14:48] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: also make sure you disable password login and set everyone up with public/private key. that right there will increase your security more than anything else you could do.
[14:48] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: I have disabled password based ssh access, I have restricted ssh from external netwok
[14:48] <zykotick9> iceroot: fyi, "apt-get purge foo" should work these days
[14:48] <iceroot> zykotick9: yes but it was not default always or?
[14:48] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, I have no GUI here
[14:48] <MarKsaitis> it is a minimal system
[14:48] <Onixs> is there a prebuilt ubuntu NAS like freenas?
[14:48] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: the sooner you start actually listening to what people are telling you rather than ignoring, doing your own thing and then complaining it's broke, the easier you will find things
[14:48] <iceroot> zykotick9: manpage is sayxing its the same now
[14:48] <illsci> Are there ubuntu 10.04 tomat7 packages
[14:49] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: ok, so the answer to my statement should have been "I have no gui"
[14:49] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: not ignore and do your own thing
[14:49] <zykotick9> iceroot: it's not an option for aptitude, and i seem to recall it NOT being in older apt-get... but i'm not sure ;)
[14:49] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: then i'd call it a job well done and move onto the next task :D
[14:49] <imyousuf> hmm
[14:49] <iceroot> zykotick9: my etch does not know purge :) so seems a new feature
[14:49] <zykotick9> iceroot: and i lie - it is an option for aptitude ;)
[14:49] <MarKsaitis> Anyways, I am trying everything all together and im still saying that apt-get purge apache2 only wants to remove 36kb. Secondly, remove -purge - doesnt exist
[14:50] <MarKsaitis> so, apache2 cant be removed by any methods you all told me
[14:50] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it can
[14:50] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: BTW is possible to filter my mac address in addition to IP?
[14:50] <ubuntu9009> hello!
[14:50] <MarKsaitis> well thats the question, How?
[14:50] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I'm backing away from you now, as you seem to ignore all advice, do your own thing then come back complaining that things aren't working
[14:50] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: I told you specfically not to upgrade or you would have issues, you did it, and now you are having issues
[14:50] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: "remove -purge" *doesn't* exist, "remove --purge" does (note the *double* hyphen).
[14:51] <MarKsaitis> thanx DarwinSurvivor still says 36kb
[14:51] <mentoc> Are there any tips to ensure that a wireless device I buy today will be supported by my kernel? (3.2)
[14:51] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: apache2 is a dummy package that calls all the dependencies of Apache, and installs whatever 2.x is most recent. purge, then autoremove.
[14:52] <ikonia> mentoc: check the hardware compatability list
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, do u wanna say apt-get purge apache2 doesnt work for me because I upgraded in openvz?
[14:52] <mentoc> ikonia: thank you
[14:52] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: possibly, but there's no point as every single operating system (including all consumer routers) allow mac address spoofing in about 5 seconds worth of work. macs and ip can be spoofed, id-rsa keys CANNOT
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, I thought so. It's ikonia who is telling that its because I broke something
[14:52] <ikonia> mentoc: there are brands which are well supported, brands which have "some" supported models and ones which have zero support
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, so how do i remove it
[14:52] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: i just told you.
[14:52] <imyousuf> DarwinSurvivor: Agree! but just additional layer of security, you don't think thats worth it?
[14:53] <mentoc> ikonia: where would I find this list?
[14:53] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: have you tried RUNNING it, it could be that 36kb is all there *IS* to remove, other packages may be sharing libraries with it.
[14:53] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, ok I will give it a go
[14:53] <DarwinSurvivor> imyousuf: anything to do with mac filtering isn't worth the time it takes to set it up
[14:53] <imyousuf> hmm pl
[14:53] <imyousuf> s/pl/ok
[14:53] <ikonia> mentoc: well, it's tricky to get an accurate risk, as it changes a lot and different people have different lists as it's "per kernel" and "per distro per kernel"
[14:53] <ikonia> !hcl | mentoc
[14:53] <georgelappies> how do you change the unity launchers highlight colour from orange to blue?
[14:53] <ikonia> mentoc: if you have a google on the internet, you'll find the general supported brands, then work the list down from there
[14:54] <DarwinSurvivor> not only can they easily be spoofed, but they are transmitted in cleartext during most activities (including when connecting to WPA2 wireless routers)
[14:54] <ikonia> mentoc: look on places like amazon, get ideas / costs for models, then check their specific compatability, then when you find one you like, go out and buy it
[14:54] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, http://pastebin.com/TzKUuXGF
[14:54] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, doesnt seem like, does it?
[14:55] <georgelappies> \join #ubuntu+1
[14:55] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: you're using the root user?
[14:55] <himanshu_m786> can anyone tell me where the temporary files (history) are saved ...... i want to delete it ....
[14:55] <DarwinSurvivor> MarKsaitis: now delete all directories called apache, apache2 and httpd from /etc/ and reinstall it
[14:56] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, yes, I am using the root user, so what. I am now doing all elevated commands only anyway, so instead of typing in sudo I just do them as root
[14:56] <Larss> When installing a linux distribution, should I go with GNOME or KDE?
[14:56] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: "sudo -i" accomplishes the same task, without putting Ubuntu into a state that's not recommended.
[14:57] <zykotick9> himanshu_m786: the command line history?  ~/.bash_history
[14:57] <ikonia> Larss: it's your choice, use which one you like
[14:57] <Larss> ikonia: I don't know the differences
[14:57] <ikonia> Larss: get a livecd, try them
[14:57] <CoolCoder> Cakephp application is not working on the web server root. i have created a folder inside web server root and inside that folder same web application is working fine. But on root directory when same application is moved, its showing htaccess issue. website index page is getting without styles. when click on link goes to 404 page. server is rackspace
[14:57] <oduku> i am coding in java in windows ..in some places in my code i need to give proper link which points to file located in ubuntu server.
[14:57] <DarwinSurvivor> Larss: check out youtube videos of each and pick the one that looks easier for you. if you can't decide, install both DE's in ubuntu and pick the one you like best (or leave them both in and switch back and forth)
[14:57] <Larss> Alright
[14:58] <MarKsaitis> if its the same, then whats the difference. I dont like the damn sudo, therefore for the command which need root access, I run as root. OVER. i didnt ask help about this
[14:58] <ikonia> mneptok: you'll find you just waste your time,
[14:59] <DarwinSurvivor> CoolCoder: if you mean http://www.rackspace.com/ then please use their support channel as they have no doubt used custom configurations for their servers
[14:59] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, and mneptok and DarwinSurvivor this is for you - http://serverfault.com/questions/205926/remove-apache-from-ubuntu
[14:59] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: and if you're going to proceed with the "I'll do things my own damned way and ignore advice, and then complain that Linux is unusable when I screw up," then i'm following ikonia to the other side of the room.
[14:59] <himanshu_m786> no not about the bash...  about the computer files history ...... like temporary ......    i want to delete it...
[14:59] <mcloy> hi, i want to learn about how to send email by (postfix or any other) but while configuring the server (on which postfix is installed) and having a proper setup by which the email will be send by me@MYDOMAIN.COM  . i think will need to setup dns and rdns ? where can i read in detail....! ?
[15:00] <DrCode> what is the diffrent between bluz and bluman?
[15:00] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, dont teach me. There is no damn diffeence in command execution in ssh shell either doing it in root or doing sudo -i. OVER
[15:00] <gimbal> Hi folks - got a Grub issue. I've built and installed a new kernel, but it's not booting succesfully. I think I've got it narrowed down to a matter of the 'root' kernel param being given to the kernel by grub.cfg (as generated with the appropriate tools). My question is: Why does my custom kernel have root=/dev/sda2 when the other kernels (Ubuntu distributed) all have root=UUID=etcetc ?
[15:00]  * sipior goes for popcorn.
[15:00] <gimbal> I mean, why does it give the device for just that custom kernel, but the UUId for the other kernels, when the scripts generate grub.cfg ?
[15:01] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: adjust your attitude or that turns into a ban.
[15:01] <MarKsaitis> I said a fact. And all know it well
[15:01] <MarKsaitis> tell me if im not right then?
[15:01] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: your aggressive posturing continues. i really suggest you stop.
[15:03] <_raven> xubuntu 11.10 XBMC does not start up "unable to create application" - any ideas?
[15:04] <jrib> MarKsaitis: it was hard, but I think I found your actual question.  What ubuntu version?
[15:04] <MarKsaitis> jrib, 11.10 :)
[15:04] <_raven> xubuntu 11.10 XBMC does not start up "unable to create application" - any ideas?
[15:05] <jrib> MarKsaitis: autoremove /should/ work.  But if it's not, you can just purge apache2.2-common
[15:05] <bazhang> _raven, please dont repost so quickly
[15:05] <MarKsaitis> jrib, I have found it as well. Everything is ok. Some of experts here don't know what theyr talking themselves. apt-get remove apache2 doesnt actually remove it, thats a fact and it is documented on the internet. Dunno why some people try to call me fool if I say that I dont agree with them
[15:06] <MarKsaitis> jrib, yeah, apache2.2-common did the trick
[15:06] <DarwinSurvivor> _raven: "ps aux | grep xbmc" tell me if anything (other than a line with grep in it) prints out
[15:06] <jrib> MarKsaitis: ok, glad you solved your issue.
[15:06] <MarKsaitis> I am glad about it as well. Thanx for the interest jrib
[15:07] <_raven> DarwinSurvivor that shows only one line
[15:07] <himanshu_m786> i want save my space on disk ..... i want to delete history files........ can anyone tell me where i can find it and delete it.....
[15:08] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: the fact that the apache2 package does not include the -common package as a dependency, and thus expose it to autoremove, is a bug. as you see, jrib expected the same commands i gave you to work. and i never called you a fool, although you're happy to take potshots at me. it's this attitude that is concerning, and really should change.
[15:08] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, I didnt mean you =) some others only
[15:09] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: name-calling in general is unacceptable. please refrain.
[15:10] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, no seriously, I didnt mean you im telling again. I didnt tell who either, but not you thats for sure. there have been some others telling that this is all because of release upgrade, which it wasnt
[15:10] <DarwinSurvivor> _raven: please post a pastebin of the output using full logging http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Advancedsettings.xml#.3Cloglevel.3E
[15:11] <L3mce> MarKsaitis: If you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't be here asking. Because you don't "like" the answer you got does not make the answer "wrong" because you hit a bug. I strongly recommend you delete your init.d folder.
 mneptok, dont teach me. There is no damn diffeence in command execution in ssh shell either doing it in root or doing sudo -i. OVER
[15:11] <L3mce> you are being a jerk.
[15:11] <sipior> hokay kids. time to move on.
[15:11] <MarKsaitis> the only problem is that I removed it all, installed again, but apache2 still does not add itself to the upstart, is that normal?
[15:11] <oCean> let's move on, alright?
[15:11] <mneptok> let's discuss such things in #ubuntu-ops if they need further discussion.
[15:12] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: you might consider "sudo passwd -dl root" and using "sudo -i" from now on. ;)
[15:13] <DarwinSurvivor> brb
[15:13] <MarKsaitis> anyways, does default apache2 install make upstart script for itself? ir did I hit a bug again?
[15:14] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: it creates init/upstart stubs.
[15:14] <L3mce> For the record, shell scripts instantiated from init.d work more like sudo su, not carrying various environment variables... for the record.
[15:14] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: or, rather, includes such things as part of the package that is installed.
[15:14] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, how do I use these stubs, where are they and how do I enable them to start on system start?
[15:14] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: that is all done with the package.
[15:15] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: there should be no user intervention necessary to have the server running. but configuration is your task.
[15:15] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, dunno what is done and what is not. But, fresh installation of apache2, reboot server - apache2 isnt running.
[15:15] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: why do you say it is not running?
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, so where are these stubs? in /etc/init ?
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> top shows no apache
[15:16] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: ps aux | grep apache2
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> ps aux no apache2 either
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> im not lying
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> seriously, it isnt running :)
[15:17] <haux> Can somebody tell me where xfce stores the current menu config file, and also where it stores the default one? For some reason my menu is all messed up now... with duplicate entries and other entries that shouldn't even be in specific categories. I'd like to restore the default one. The "revert" option is doing nothing.
[15:17] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[15:17] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, that started it
[15:18] <TonyTheTiger> I'm trying to install opsview as outlined in http://docs.opsview.com/doku.php?id=opsview-community:ubuntu-installation but when I try to install the package I get the error "depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1) but it is not going to be installed." what do? i'm running 11.10
[15:18] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, what does it all mean then? why doesnt it get started automatically?
[15:18] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: well, it tried. is the server still running, or did it terminate because of a borked config you have lying around? because it would do the same thing when starting from init.
[15:19] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, it is running fine, serving pages
[15:20] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[15:21] <MarKsaitis> mneptok,  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist. I thought this upstart init uses scripts in /etc/init only?
[15:23] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: not with total exclusivity. but you can now reasnably check the apache2 upstart job in /etc/init and make sure it's calling the right stuff out of init.d
[15:25] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, :) there is no file in /etc/init called apache* nor even simmilar
[15:25] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: for the record, on 10.04 i have no apache2 Upstart stuff in /etc/init. it is all in /etc/init.d
[15:25] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, im on 11.04
[15:25] <jrib> mneptok: in 11.10 apache is still a sysv style script
[15:26] <mneptok> jrib: good to know. i have no need of an httpd on my laptop. :)
[15:26] <MarKsaitis> the problem here is, that fresh apache2 install on 11.10 doesnt set apache2 to run automatically
[15:26] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: did you ever fiddle with the apache2 stuff in init.d?
[15:27] <jrib> MarKsaitis: also, is this a different system than the one you were purging apache from earlier?  You told me you were on 11.10 a few minutes ago
[15:27] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, never even touched
[15:27] <MarKsaitis> jrib, it was 11.10
[15:27] <jrib> MarKsaitis: and what version are you on now?
[15:27] <MarKsaitis> woops, few lines ago I misspelled, it all on 11.10
[15:28] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: well, that package works for many thousands of users. so something must be happening locally. check default runlevels?
[15:28] <MarKsaitis> I dont understand technically who is responsible for running apache2 on 11.10 if there is no sysv in there. Which upstart script should make the trick? what am I missing
[15:29] <nemo> Has anyone here successfully gotten pdnsd + resolvconf to work?
[15:29] <nemo> It does not appear to work "out of the box"
[15:29] <MarKsaitis> mneptok, as far as I understand there are no runlevels in upstart and 11.10 has no sysv system
[15:29] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: that is a flawed understanding.
[15:29] <MarKsaitis> might be
[15:30] <MarKsaitis> but thats what everybody said to me here
[15:30] <mneptok> MarKsaitis: i told you Ubuntu does not use Upstart exclusively, and jrib said apache2 is still a sysv script.
[15:30] <|Anthony|> does precise have support for HDMI out of the box? i'm using an nvidia gt240
[15:30] <oCean> |Anthony|: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[15:30] <MarKsaitis> ok, if sysv system is still enabled as well as upstart is, then why nobody runs any of these scripts I have in /etc/init.d ?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:31] <|Anthony|> yeah, i just scrolled up and read the topic
[15:31] <|Anthony|> sorry bout that
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> ps aux says im only running init sshd and 0bash
[15:31] <jrib> MarKsaitis: there's an upstart job that's responsible for running the sysv scripts (on ubuntu anyway)
[15:31] <MarKsaitis> jrib, ok. Which one is it?
[15:32] <jrib> MarKsaitis: rc
[15:32] <MarKsaitis> jrib, it exists and looks normal, but probably doesnt work
[15:33] <aoeui`> hi guys. Why such line put in crontab doesn't work: * * * * *  date=$(date +\%B); if [ ! -d /home/ja/directory/${date,,} ]; then mkdir /home/ja/directory/${date,,}. But when I point to a script like this, it does: * * * * *  /home/ja/directory/DATE
[15:33] <Unknown0BC> Hi, I have downloaded an ubuntu mirror ( for offline use etc...) but only the needed amd64 arch. But now when I do "apt-get update" it seems to ALSO look for the i386 stuff and gives errors. My software center is currently not installing from my mirror and I think this might be the cause. How can I get "apt-get update" to stop looking for i386 stuff ?
[15:33] <MarKsaitis> echo $RUNLEVEL outputs nothing for me, is that the case?
[15:33] <ikonia> aoeui`: you've been told this before
[15:33] <ikonia> aoeui`: you can't do * * * * *
[15:33] <MarKsaitis> root@server:/etc/init# runlevel
[15:33] <MarKsaitis> runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory
[15:34] <ArchInsomniac> I was wondering. If I install the 12.04 RC, when the final version is released and I do a regular update will it auto upgrade me to the final release, or would I have to do a re-install?
[15:34] <bazhang> ArchInsomniac, it'll be final
[15:35] <ArchInsomniac> so the usual sudo apt-get update/upgrade does the trick?
[15:35] <aoeui`> ikonia: why not * * * * *? If I point to a script, it executes every minute. But if I put the entire command, it does not
[15:35] <jrib> MarKsaitis: well that's not supposed to happen :)
[15:35] <Firebolt> when does 12.04 release from beta?
[15:35] <ArchInsomniac> wiki says the 24th
[15:35] <Firebolt> ok
[15:35] <h00k> !precise
[15:36] <bazhang> !final | ArchInsomniac
[15:36] <llutz> aoeui`: cron uses /bin/sh but  your statement uses bashisms
[15:36] <MarKsaitis> jrib, runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory  search tells me that it is an upgrade bug
[15:36] <ArchInsomniac> correction 26th
[15:36] <jrib> MarKsaitis: what's the result of « uname -r »?
[15:36] <ArchInsomniac> Firebolt wiki says the 26th of this month
[15:36] <nemo> ugh. since this is a desktop machine, I think I'm just going to have to give up on pdnsd + resolvconf
[15:36] <MarKsaitis> root@server:/etc/init# uname -r
[15:36] <MarKsaitis> 2.6.18-238.19.1.el5.028stab092.2
[15:36] <nemo> they just do not play well together at all
[15:36] <ArchInsomniac> bazhang ubottu thank you
[15:37] <nemo> gonna do pdnsd manual config
[15:37] <nemo> but I pity the poor user who was advised to install this as a dns cacher...
[15:37] <Melquimedes> estoy
[15:38] <happyface> does anyone have a build of iodfengine.x86_64.exe?
[15:38] <ArchInsomniac> does anyone in here use the Android development SDK with 12.04?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> happyface  .exe looks windows to me
[15:38] <aoeui`> llutz: that may be the problem
[15:38] <jrib> MarKsaitis: there are two issues: 1) that's not an ubuntu kernel and 2) that's not a version of the kernel available on 11.10
[15:38] <Melquimedes> hola soy nuevo en Ubuntu / linux
[15:39] <Melquimedes> alguien habla español?
[15:39] <l3d> ok I am in need here i seem to be stuck in busybox on my laptop how would I get back to normal?
[15:39] <llutz> !es | Melquimedes
[15:39] <Melquimedes> tengo unas dudas
[15:39] <Melquimedes> gracias
[15:40] <himanshu_m786> can anyone tell me what files do lost+found contain
[15:40] <Unknown0BC> Hi, I have downloaded an ubuntu mirror ( for offline use etc...) but only the needed amd64 arch. But now when I do "apt-get update" it seems to ALSO look for the i386 stuff and gives errors. My software center is currently not installing from my mirror and I think this might be the cause. How can I get "apt-get update" to stop looking for i386 stuff ?
[15:40] <llutz> himanshu_m786: if fsck finds errors, it will put recovered data into this dir. usually its empty
[15:42] <llutz> !pm | himanshu_m786
[15:43] <himanshu_m786> please explain me ...
[15:43] <llutz> himanshu_m786: explain what?
[15:43] <MarKsaitis> can somebody please type in runlevel on ubuntu 11.10 or newer and tell me what it says? PLS
[15:43] <MarKsaitis> :)
[15:43] <himanshu_m786> fsck ....... actually i am new ...
[15:43] <l3d> what does it mean when it says init not found
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  N 2
[15:43] <tafelpoot> himanshu_m786: FILESYSTEM CHECK
[15:43] <tafelpoot> oeps sorry,
[15:44] <llutz> himanshu_m786: type "man fsck " into a terminal
[15:44] <tafelpoot> the caps were not intended
[15:44] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, thanx and u on?
[15:44] <himanshu_m786> oh.... ok  thank you for help...
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  I followed a bit and I guess your questions are a bit beyond me
[15:45] <Melquimedes> perodn no se que hice pero no puedo en ubuntu en español. alguien me ayuda
[15:45] <llutz> himanshu_m786: you might remove that empty dir, it will be recreated if its needed. but it won't harm to just leave it there
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  not this one, but in general
[15:45] <jrib> !es | Melquimedes
[15:45] <MarKsaitis> ok
[15:46] <khangaikhuu> exit
 ok ...
[15:46] <Unknown0BC> apt-get update keeps looking for i386 stuff also on top of the actual arch of this machine amd64 .
[15:46] <Unknown0BC> is it possible to get it to stop ?
[15:48] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, i'm out for the day. If the channel gets flooded in the future and you need some help, feel free to ping me and i'll come back in
 actually when i install ubuntu 11.10  i alloted 32gb for it ..... now i am clearing temp file .....   and i am find them ..
[15:49] <MarKsaitis> does ubuntu 11.10 has runlevels?
[15:49] <llutz> himanshu_m786: /tmp will be emptied at boottime
[15:49] <llutz> !runlevel | MarKsaitis no
[15:49] <bugman> hello
ok
[15:49] <jrib> MarKsaitis: if you want to learn about upstart, you should read the upstart cookbook at: upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook
[15:49] <ubuntu_> fuskerc
[15:49] <bugman> can anyone explain how does IRC work?
[15:50] <ubuntu_> no ya
[15:50] <llutz> bugman: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[15:50] <MarKsaitis> llutz, is that why my "runlevel" command doesnt tell me what runlevel the system is in?
[15:50] <ikonia> ubuntu_: do you need help ?
[15:50] <llutz> MarKsaitis: most likely
[15:50] <bugman> ty llutz
[15:50] <happyface> why might my /usr/include not be visible to my compiler? it can't find any of the headers
[15:50] <ubuntu_> me too
[15:50] <ylmfos> 哦来
[15:51] <MarKsaitis> bugman, very easilly. When you send /join #adad, the actual server actually gets the same string and processes it.
[15:51] <MarKsaitis> llutz, what system ur on?
[15:51] <llutz> MarKsaitis: debian sid
[15:51] <sipior> happyface: which compiler are you using, and how did you get it?
[15:51] <ubuntu_> u11
  i want to see the process that are running ....like in windows "task manager"
[15:51] <ikonia> ubuntu_: do you need help, yes/no ?
[15:51] <llutz> himanshu_m786: htop, top
[15:51] <happyface> sipior: mingw32 actually, and through ubuntu repos
[15:51] <MarKsaitis> can somebody who has ubuntu 11.10 and over type in "runlevel" and let me know what you get?
[15:51] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: ubuntu runs at run level 2
[15:51] <ubuntu_> me
[15:51] <happyface> sipior: maybe I need to go into a mingw channel :P
[15:52] <sipior> happyface: i assume adding "-I/usr/include" fixes the problem?
[15:52] <sipior> happyface: might not hurt :-)
[15:52] <happyface> sipior: thanks ill try it :)
[15:52] <ikonia> ubuntu_: do you need help, yes/no ?
[15:52] <jrib> MarKsaitis: the runlevel does return a runlevel; you know this because MonkeyDust answered you earlier.  The reason yours does not work is likely related to the fact that you are using a non-ubuntu kernel.  My advice is to ask for support from the vendor providing you with said kernel
[15:52] <ubuntu_> yes
[15:52] <ikonia> ubuntu_: how can we help ?
[15:53] <ubuntu_> i can nothing
[15:53] <MarKsaitis> jrib, might be true
[15:53] <sipior> happyface: ah, i wasn't thinking. mingw32 obviously won't be linking against the system glibc. using /usr/include would be inappropriate.
[15:54] <blzz> Moxi and I are debating Politics in pms lol
[15:54] <ubuntu_>  KJBHKJ;H
  ok...i install in terminal and and got that .....nice ....thanks
[15:56] <happyface> sipior: yea? Is it easier to compile windows stuff in cygwin or something?
[15:57] <sipior> happyface: you'll need to consult the mingw32 documentation. in principle there's no problem cross-compiling for windows, but you'll need to do some reading :-)
[15:58] <MarKsaitis> I think this is a general ubuntu problem with runlevels - they are BROKEN - read this folks http://www.securitronlinux.com/uncategorized/the-broken-ubuntu-runlevel-system/
[15:58] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: ubuntu runlevels are not broken
[15:59] <sipior> MarKsaitis: the world is moving on from runlevels. you should too.
[15:59] <MarKsaitis> well, I am trying to establish why command runlevel gives me error
[15:59] <jrib> MarKsaitis: they aren't broken; that site is actually just complaining about a debian decision to make runlevels 2-5 identical (which is a design decision; they work as intended by the developers)
[15:59] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: jrib gave you a possible reason
[16:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: contact your hosting provider to fix/resolve your machines issue
[16:00] <MarKsaitis> might be
[16:00] <jrib> MarKsaitis: I think contacting your vendor is what you should do now; we cannot help you further
[16:01] <Hunter-Eric> hi guys !
[16:06] <TimeKilla> Sup guys
[16:07] <martinphone> In thunderbird, how do I access the passwords section?
[16:08] <TimeKilla> type sudo where is my password
[16:08] <chrisb86> Has anyone of you installed an encrypted mailing list with schleuder yet?
[16:08] <TimeKilla> Anyone here drink buckfast tonic wine?
[16:08] <jrib> !ot | TimeKilla
[16:09] <bazhang> TimeKilla, chit chat elsewhere
[16:09] <TimeKilla> Sorry
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> martinphone  edit, preferences, security
[16:09] <TimeKilla> Been drinking will leave until i sober up.
[16:10] <martinphone> thx MonkeyDust
[16:11] <tlvb> any upstart script coders online? I'm trying to set up a reverse ssh tunnel (triggering on static-network-up) but it does not start automatically, manual start is ok though
[16:11] <himanshu_m786>  if i want to install the any software other than using "software center" ..... how can i do that ???
[16:11] <jrib> tlvb: might want to try #upstart as well
[16:11] <tlvb> jrib: ok, thanks
[16:12] <jrib> !software | himanshu_m786
[16:12] <codemaniac> hello
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> himanshu_m786  synaptic or else sudo apt-get install in a terminal
[16:17] <Certo> hi everybody
[16:18] <leoquant> sudo lsof -i -n -P on 12.04 gives dnsmasq, never seen this before. can this be removed on the ubuntu desktop envr.?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> leoquant  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:19] <leoquant> because its a beta release MonkeyDust ?
 i am new ...... if i download the rar file ...... and when extract it then which of the file will install it
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| leoquant here's why
[16:20] <leoquant> thank you
[16:22] <RoBz> aw do you really need 15GBs to install ubuntu?
[16:22] <leoquant> RoBz, no
[16:23] <RoBz> leoquant: how low can i go? :s
[16:23] <RoBz> i can afford to give it 10 no bother
[16:23] <RoBz> reckon thatd do it?
[16:24] <Dr_willis> RoBz,  depends on what work you want to do with it.
[16:24] <RoBz> not much tbh, i have windows and OS X installed already and OS X would be my primary OS
[16:24] <Dr_willis> if you want to toy with linux, you could test it out in virtualbox or some other vm
[16:25] <RoBz> nah im not into virtual machines tbh
[16:25] <RoBz> i want it running proper
[16:25] <RoBz> need it for some stuff in college
[16:25] <RoBz> ill give it 10 and 1 for swap
[16:25] <leoquant> RoBz, for basic things: irc/email/etc. 8gb
[16:26] <RoBz> ah sweet, thanks
[16:26] <gometrk> hallo
[16:26] <gometrk> !list
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> short and sweet
[16:27] <afeijo> good morning folks
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: af'noon
[16:28] <afeijo> I just installed a new ubuntu 11.10, is it possible to enabled just the shortcuts to move the current window around the screen (ctrl+alt+numKey) ?
[16:28] <afeijo> I love that feature :)
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: isn't that the grid plugin in compiz?
[16:29] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, indeed, it is afternoon here too, the holiday confused my mind
[16:29] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, I believe so, that should be the name
[16:29] <afeijo> I need the whole compiz for that?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: indeed, its in a default install, then run:  ccsm
[16:29] <afeijo> usually I install the compiz manager to control it, ccsm?
[16:29] <afeijo> thanks, it opened
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:30] <afeijo> I have ccsm, it opened, so far so good. The grid is enabled, but not working ... weird
[16:31] <diamonds> http://screencast.com/t/l40Xo433r4 Next screen: http://screencast.com/t/6mJheepn4QuM
[16:31] <diamonds> what is going wrong here? how can I get more debug info?
[16:31] <afeijo> this ubuntu I'm running as a vmware workstation 8 guest, vmware uses ctrl+alt to release the control back to the host... it might been interfearing, I will check with vmware
[16:31] <diamonds> screen one has all the packages I selected
[16:31] <diamonds> only a couple
[16:31] <Antonis> Hello folks.I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 64bit.. everytime I update my system, the flash plugin breakes and I am not able to see flash content on either chrome (google chrome latest not chromium)or firefox
[16:32] <afeijo> none of the compiz effects are working, wth
[16:33] <skel> Antonis: did you install the flash package or download and install it manually?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: is compiz actually running?
[16:33] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, how can I check it?
[16:33] <afeijo> htop?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: press alt+f2  and run:  compiz --replace
[16:33] <Amaya|2> Hello, is anybody available to answer any noob questions?
[16:34] <skel> Amaya|2: you'll never know unless you ask :)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: you'll need to enable the partner repo to get 64bit flash by installing the adobe-flashplugin package
[16:34] <Amaya|2> haha ok, well I'm wondering what my kernel source is?
[16:34] <skel> Amaya|2: the version or where the actual source code is?
[16:35] <Amaya|2> Well, both
[16:35] <skel> Amaya|2: uname -a will provide you with the version
[16:35] <Amaya|2> Is this in terminal?
[16:35] <skel> Amaya|2: by default the source isn't installed, but you can apt-get the package
[16:35] <skel> Amaya|2: yes, terminal
[16:35] <Antonis> skel, I tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:35] <afeijo> (metacity:7577): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[16:36] <skel> Antonis: like ActionParsnip said, you'll need to enable partner repos in the software package settings
[16:36] <Antonis> I also tried adobe-flashplugin but neither of them work
[16:36] <kantlivelong> is there an app thats similar to the windows NetStumbler? Im looking to monitor wifi sn ratios and interference.
[16:36] <skel> Antonis: it's not a opensource package, so its provided via another repo to keep the level of seperation somewhat more clear
[16:36] <skel> kantlivelong: kismet
[16:36] <Amaya|2> skel: Just a second, i'm using a VM and it's slow
[16:36] <skel> Amaya|2: np
[16:36] <Antonis> canonical partners?
[16:36] <afeijo> damn, I installed the package pixmap but the error remains, maybe a reboot? I'll try later
[16:37] <kantlivelong> skel: kismet shows s2n?
[16:37] <skel> Antonis: thats the one
[16:37] <Antonis> ok let me see
[16:37] <Antonis> and then just upgrade or should I reinstall adobe packages?
[16:37] <skel> kantlivelong: I haven't used it in over a year but I thought it did
[16:38] <Amaya|2> skel: Linux mainuser-VirtualBox 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 17:34:21 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[16:38] <skel> Antonis: so when you say you tried to install them and it didn't work, do you mean apt-get or the software "store" couldn't find the packages? or it did and it failed?
[16:38] <Antonis> skel, apt-get
[16:38] <skel> Amaya|2: so you're using 3.0.0-17
[16:38] <Antonis> I installed the packages
[16:38] <Antonis> but I was not able to play flash content
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you can suppress that warning with:   sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[16:39] <Antonis> both adobe packages and flash-plugin installer installed correctly
[16:39] <kantlivelong> skel: perhaps your right.. gonna have a look now
[16:39] <skel> Antonis: is it specific content that doesn't work, or any flash page?
[16:39] <Antonis> but I was not able to play flash content and I still can't :\
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:39] <Antonis> any flash I get instead of the flash content I get an icon that look like totem
[16:39] <Amaya|2> ok, thanks. I'll explain what i'm doing. I'm installing aircrack-ng and it says for the first step of patching my driver I must 'cd into my kernel sources'. Any idea what this means?
[16:40] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, ok that error is gone, but it still show 2 other fatal, here is the first one: Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[16:40] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/917653/
[16:40] <skel> ActionParsnip: do you think it's a conflict with a free flash plugin?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: then you will need to ask in #vmware to see how you can get 3D accelleration in vmware
[16:40] <skel> Amaya|2: if you're trying to do aircrack via a vm it probably won't work (anyone correct me if I'm wrong)
[16:40] <afeijo> I might have missed that checkbox, great thanks :)
[16:40] <Amaya|2> Oh, well that's a disappointment
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: that's not all of the output, the command was more than that
[16:41] <unkr> can anyone tell me how to mount .nrg  files ??
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> (17:39:33) ActionParsnip: Antonis: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> unkr: try mounty
[16:41] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/917656/
[16:41] <skel> Amaya|2: its just that it needs to access specific network drivers, and since your vm guest is virtualized, it won't be working with an orinoco / intel etc..
[16:41] <skel> Amaya|2: so it probably won't support the commands it needs
[16:42] <Amaya|2> It's just that i'm sure i've seen links to VM's on the aircrack website
[16:42] <Jasonxx> guy i have 2 drive in raid. when i am partitioning .. it asking him to select either 0 or 1
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin ;sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> unkr: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/indicator-applet-to-mount-cd-dvd-images.html
[16:42] <Jasonxx> when i put 0.. i see total space from 2 HD.. whereas when i put 1: i only see space for 1 hard drive
[16:43] <unkr> ActionParsnip, thnx :)
[16:43] <skel> Amaya|2: I could be wrong, its been a while since I've setup aircrack. I don't want to mislead you so I'll leave someone else who may know more to assist
[16:43] <skel> Amaya|2: but, if you want to get your source, you can do that via the command apt-get
[16:44] <server__> how can id to get my backup file for server
[16:44] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, done
[16:44] <Amaya|2> skel: thankyou anyway
[16:44] <Amaya|2> skel: so apt-get will getme 'into' the kernel?
[16:44] <skel> Amaya|2: so like: sudo apt-get install linux-source-3.0.0     in your case
[16:45] <skel> Amaya|2: it'll prompt you for a password, its your standard user pass
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: ok then install adobe-flashplugin package
[16:45] <skel> Amaya|2: that downloads the source code for the kernel into a directory, you can then go there to apply whatever matches and build whatever configs you need
[16:45] <server__> am now in ubuntu 12.04 and i used to be in ubuntu 10.1 help to get my mkahawa timer in ubuntu 12.04 i use it in cyber cafe
[16:46] <skel> Amaya|2: I'd recommend you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> server__: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support please
[16:46] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, done
[16:46] <Antonis> should I open google and try?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: close all browsers, reopen to test
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> server__: fyi, leapfrogging releases will cause you issues
[16:47] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, nothing :\
[16:47] <skel> huh, I didn't know ubuntu repos included Red Hat Cluster Suite kernel source. cool
[16:48] <Amaya|2> skel: I see, so it seems like a bad idea, but then how else would I install my patch for my driver? It seems like i'll have to, otherwise I have little use for Ubuntu
[16:48] <skel> Amaya|2: its not necessarily a bad idea, it just requires a significant foundation of understanding to maintain
[16:49] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/xqbZQ.jpg look at the right
[16:49] <cct> HALLO UBUNTU WORLD :)
[16:49] <Amaya|2> skel: Why would I need to understand it? If I'm only modifying this one thing, then I won't need to touch it again?
[16:49] <skel> Amaya|2: you could potentially build in scripts to tie in your patches to the upgrade and update process
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: disable the totem plugin to manage flash
[16:50] <skel> Amaya|2: because next update you might get a kernel update. so if you want those changes, you'll either need to do that process every time.. or miss out on the fixes
[16:50] <skel> Amaya|2: ie. from 11.10 to 12.04 you go from kernel 3.0.0 to 3.2
[16:51] <Amaya|2> Oh I'm fine with re-doing it, I mean it's better than never using aircrack
[16:51] <skel> Amaya|2: I'm not sure if Ubuntu detects a custom kernel and leaves you alone or just moves you to the next one leaving it up to you to set the old to the default
[16:51] <cct> 12.04 beta 2 is good as any one ...
[16:51] <skel> Amaya|2: you might just look at a live-cd / usb for when you want to use aircrack
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> cct: #ubuntu+1 for anything precise based please
[16:51] <cct> Good work ubuntu theme ...
[16:51] <Abooda> greetings
[16:51] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, how do I do that??
[16:51] <skel> Amaya|2: unless you need to be using it while doing whatever you need your host OS for.
[16:52] <Antonis> AcidRain2012, I have the same prob in firefox
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: launch the app and check the plugins
[16:52] <cct> ok!
[16:52] <pivetta> hi guys, i cant find anything about on the internet, when i open to fullscreen some applications it looks the computer gets overload and about to crash as he dims the screen (but in fact it isn't everything works well). it's pretty annoying to work with a dark screen, where do i remove this function? i want my screen to never get dark anymore, even if the pc is dying :)
[16:52] <ksmukeshkumar> how to install dolphin file manager ?
[16:52] <skel> pivetta: open settings, go to power and look at the options
[16:52] <Amaya|2> skel: It Doesn't have to be within Ubuntu, no. Would a live CD be slower?
[16:52] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, there are no enabled plugins :\
[16:53] <skel> Amaya|2: depends how much memory you have and what your processor is etc
[16:53] <skel> Amaya|2: I'd take a look at the backtrack livecd
[16:53] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, brb
[16:53] <skel> Amaya|2: also, making it a bootable usb should be faster as well
[16:53] <ksmukeshkumar> how to install dolphin file manager ?	
[16:53] <Amaya|2> skel: 4Gb RAM, 2.2 GHz Quad core
[16:54] <xangua> ksmukeshkumar: sudo apt-get install dolphin
[16:54] <Amaya|2> skel: I'm not sure how to make a bootable USB for backtrack
[16:54] <skel> Amaya|2: yeah you should be fine, obviously it's not going to be as fast as running from fully installed if you have an SSD hard drive, but it'll definitely be usable as a desktop
[16:54] <pivetta> skel, i set "not suspend" at if Idle and when battery's low ibernate, but i'm on a tower pc, there aren't any other settings
[16:54] <sacarlson> pivetta: I think I've seen what you say when some timeout responce like on firefox doesn't respond that window dims signaling responce was slow something might be wrong.  is that what you mean?
[16:54] <skel> pivetta: what version of ubuntu?
[16:54] <ksmukeshkumar> xangua thanks
[16:55] <skel> Amaya|2: there are a bunch of tools out there to do it. check out unetbootin
[16:55] <pivetta> sacarlson, yes it's wath you mean, i've got it for example while working on blender in fullscreen
[16:55] <Sahdar> Hi there, using Ubuntu 12.04 and have some troubles with adope flash player. When i try to start an flash application, he asks me for some more storage at harddrive. But I can't click anything at the menu. :( so I can't click okay and give him more storage.
[16:55] <Amaya|2> skel: it can't get much slower than the Ubuntu VM
[16:55] <skel> Amaya|2: it just takes an iso image and point the program at an erasable (you can afford to lose the data) usb drive
[16:55] <pivetta> skel, 11.10 with unity
[16:56] <sacarlson> pivetta: I"ve also seen it I think in nautilus but it might have been a network connection that was slow, I'm not sure
[16:56] <skel> pivetta: look at screen options in settings, not power
[16:56] <john_700> 12.04 Beta 2 doing fairly well here
[16:56] <skel> pivetta: is "dim screen to save power" checked?
[16:56] <xangua> Sahdar: #ubuntu+1 for pangolin please
[16:56] <ksmukeshkumar> is there any tweak to change the appearence of file manger and whole desktop ?
[16:56] <Sahdar> ah okay.
[16:57] <Amaya|2> I have a Ubuntu Iso, but it's ot up-to-date. So i'll get a newere one. Once this bootable USB is established, will it update?
[16:57] <sacarlson> skel: I think it's dimed after a slow responce time out on applications,  not sure where the time out comes from or why the delay
[16:57] <Amaya|2> I assu e it's not just run in RAM?
[16:57] <Amaya|2> *assume
[16:57] <bazhang> Amaya|2, is it persistent?
[16:58] <GremlynTab> hello, I have run into an issue while upgrading 10.04 to 12.04, us this a good place for me to get help, or is there a better channel for that topic
[16:58] <Amaya|2> skel: Is what persistent?
[16:58] <skel> sacarlson: ah ok, I thought it was improperly detecting his desktop as a laptop and maybe the power stuff was wonkey
[16:58] <bazhang> Amaya|2, the usb stick
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> GremlynTab: #ubuntu+1 for prerelease please
[16:58] <pivetta> skel, yes found but it was "screen lock" not enough clear to me, thanks!
[16:58] <Amaya|2> skel: Sorry but I don't know wjhat you mean
[16:58] <GremlynTab> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:59] <bazhang> Amaya|2, my nicks not ske l
[16:59] <skel> Amaya|2: just meant, don't use a usb that you don't want erased :)
[16:59] <bazhang> !usb | Amaya|2 see the last link
[17:00] <skel> Amaya|2: and I would use Backtrack, not Ubuntu for what you want to do, it'll have the modified kernels
[17:00] <bazhang> Amaya|2, a live usb will be set to default once you reboot
[17:00] <Amaya|2> bazhang: sorry, I assumed because of the black text and unreadable name on my client that you must be the same person
[17:00] <skel> bazhang: ah! I was confused :-P
[17:02] <jhg_> hello
[17:02] <Amaya|2> ubottu: thanks, i've made a note of the links. I'll need to learn what a persistent drive is
[17:02] <john_700> Hello jhg...its working
[17:02] <jhg_> i know...
[17:02] <Kitty_22> I just updated to 11.10 (from 11.04) last night and I can't run any OpenGL based applications.  Can anyone help me?
[17:02] <bazhang> Amaya|2, persistent means changes are saved
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_22: what gpu do you use?
[17:03] <Amaya|2> I see
[17:03] <Kitty_22> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[17:04] <Amaya|2> I have no drives that I can afford to lose. All are large (600Gb - 1TB) and if I did install Ubuntu on there I could not risk losing the rest of the data. I thought a live CD literally was when you run a CD in RAM, thus no changes would be saved
[17:04] <bekks> Amaya|2: Then backup your system completely.
[17:05] <bekks> Thats the only way to be sure to not lose data in case something weird happens.
[17:05] <Kitty_22> As far as persistance goes, couldn't you make a filesystem in a container?
[17:06] <Amaya|2> I can't backup all of my data; only important things. The majority of my stuff will need to be re-downloaded when my external drives fail
[17:06] <bekks> Amaya|2: Thats your decision then :) Unbackup data is lost data.
[17:06] <bekks> *Unbackuped
[17:06] <Amaya|2> I might see if I can acquire a pen drive of myabe 8Gb and run Ubuntu from it
[17:06] <|Anthony|> hold shift during boot from install media to access nomodeset, right?
[17:07] <Amaya|2> bekks: Well it would be silly to back up everything. Instead of having 3Tb of data I suddenly have 6Tb
[17:07] <Amaya|2> It's not like it's business stuff, it's personal use like movies
[17:07] <bekks> Amaya|2: Well, think of losing all your data, then backing it up isnt that silly anymore.
[17:07] <spyvsspy> is there a way in ubuntu server, to change the default network connection
[17:08] <bekks> spyvsspy: Change it like what?
[17:08] <spyvsspy> it hangs 2-3 minutes upon startup because I dont have an either net cable connected, but I would like to setup wvdial as the connection mechanims
[17:08] <skel> Amaya|2: live-cd does not use your disk to store info unless you tell it to
[17:09] <Amaya|2> bekks: Well I can afford to lose it. The only things I really can't lose are a couple of Gb max, including documents, which i'll get round to backing up, but these are on my PC and I beleive less likely to fail as they're SATA instead of USB. At least I think; it's no excuse though, i'll back up soon
[17:09] <skel> Amaya|2: in general, anything can happen, but the probability of a live-cd (unless it's an install cd) wiping anything out is pretty low
[17:10] <bekks> Amaya|2: "Backup important data soon" is an oxymoron.
[17:10] <Kitty_22> ActionParsnip, It's an Intel GM965.  The relevant errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917703/
[17:10] <bekks> Amaya|2: None the less, it's all up to your decision.
[17:10] <diamonds> so I did the "minimal" install on a VM
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_22: could try in #compiz
[17:10] <skel> Amaya|2: in fact, since in most live-cd's your local drive isn't mounted or if it is its mounted read-only, there's less chance of a failure then if you crashed (at a hardware level) hosting a vm
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_22: you may want to read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:11] <Kitty_22> ActionParsnip, It's not just compiz though, nothing that's GL-based will run.  I'll try there though.
[17:12] <Amaya|2> bekks: of course, but I take risks when they're low. If a live CD is unlikely to wipe a disk then it's good enough for me. I've never been in a situation in like 15 years of using computers where I've lost all of my data, so I guess i've never been so cautious. Besides, even if I do and it was very importnt that I retrieve a document, then 'm sure it can be recovered with tools.
[17:13] <diamonds> http://screencast.com/t/ng76BWJ6m0
[17:13] <skel> Amaya|2: what bazhang was saying is you can tell the usb boot creater to reserve a portion of the usb thumb-drive for saving your changes across boots. It's not meant for high-volume write scenarios but it would certainly work for something like saving aircrack sessions.
[17:13] <diamonds> this thread may address my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1099261
[17:13] <diamonds> but I didn't do any tweaking to the VM settings
[17:14] <bekks> diamonds: a vm does not have an SMBus controller.
[17:14] <diamonds> bekks: so must I install ubuntu differently?
[17:14] <bekks> No, you just have dont care about it :)
[17:14] <bekks> Do you know whats a SMBus controller and what it is for?
[17:14] <Saurabh_> Hey guys, wat are u views for HUD>
[17:15] <diamonds> bekks: no, not at all
[17:15] <Amaya|2> skel: I think I get what you mean. Although i've used for computers for a long time, i've not learned half as much as I should and i'm very much a b00b with many things, including anything non-windows, VM's etc
[17:15] <diamonds> If I set it to use that it was in error
[17:15] <diamonds> (i.e. I didn't mean to
[17:15] <Amaya|2> *n00b, or a b00b
[17:15] <skel> Amaya|2: I understood :)
[17:15] <bekks> diamonds: In real hardware, thats the controller sensors are connected to, like the voltage sensors, temp sensors, and stuff.
[17:16] <bekks> diamonds: In a vm, you just dont have to care about :)
[17:16] <diamonds> thank you
[17:16] <diamonds> bekks: so I'm having trouble booting now
[17:16] <Jasonxx> can someone please tell me how to mount 2nd drive in raid. I can see the first drive but can't see 2nd drive
[17:16] <diamonds> I get that error message then a blank screen'
[17:16] <diamonds> http://screencast.com/t/981xzvLkApW < fwiw my vm settings
[17:16] <Amaya|2> skel: So, I can set up a small amount of space on an external drive just like Truecrypt does? sort of separate from the rest
[17:16] <bekks> diamonds: thats a different problem not related to that SMBus message at all.
[17:16] <diamonds> bekks: ah thank you
[17:17] <skel> Amaya|2: yeah, like unetbootin program will do it all for you, and theres a version you can download for windows to make the bootable drive
[17:17] <bekks> Jasonxx: Do you have a hardware raid controller?
[17:17] <Jasonxx> yah
[17:17] <bekks> Jasonxx: Then you dont see two drives, but just one logical one.
[17:17] <Amaya|2> Oskel: k that's interesting.
[17:17] <bekks> Thats why it is called RAID.
[17:17] <skel> Amaya|2: if you're using a seperate usb disk-drive, your options are a lot better, and you could just do a full install on to that (like one of those WD passport drives)
[17:17] <Jasonxx> umm
[17:17] <Jasonxx> how come i can't see the space of 2nd drive
[17:17] <skel> Amaya|2: otherwise, just use an 8gb thumb like you said.
[17:17] <Jasonxx> i only see /home has 1 drive mounted
[17:17] <bekks> Jasonxx: I just told you.
[17:17] <Amaya|2> skel: That's interesting, do I boot the Ubuntu up at the start like a dual boot or do I boot it like I do my VM?
[17:18] <bekks> Jasonxx: So provide what you see in a pastebin please.
[17:18] <gitesh> I am a begginer. I want to learn ubuntu. any url?
[17:18] <skel> Amaya|2: you'd go into your bios and just make sure usb is bootable and in order before your internal drive
[17:18] <sacarlson> Jasonxx: so the total hard disk mem space is not seen ?
[17:18] <skel> Amaya|2: then when you want to use it, just plug it in and boot (or reboot as it were)
[17:18] <Amaya|2> skel: I'm glad 8Gb is enough then I won't be needing to really save anything ,just to use programs like aircrack and maybe write down anything I need
[17:18] <rhizmoe> what's a decent music player that runs on 10.10? i can't even find anything that allows filtering on genre.
[17:18] <skel> Amaya|2: yeah 8gb is plently
[17:19] <skel> Amaya|2: *plenty
[17:19] <Amaya|2> skel: Brilliant. What would you say the minimum is?
[17:19] <bekks> For a minimal install, about 700MB.
[17:19] <skel> Amaya|2: I'm not sure what the backtrack footprint is.. probably less then 1gb
[17:19] <sacarlson> rhizmoe: sound like rythumbox
[17:19] <rhizmoe> sacarlson: no genre in the 10.10-usable version
[17:19] <AaronCampbell> I have several startup apps that I've recently set up.  These include RealVNC, Skype, Dropbox, Clipit, and Most recently "Cloud App"
[17:20] <AaronCampbell> Cloud App is a python app (run with "/usr/bin/python /home/acampbell/py-cloudapp/cloudapp") and doesn't seem to start but all the others do.
[17:20] <diamonds> What's a good next step if the first time I boot my ubuntu minimal VM I get a blank screen with no prompt?
[17:20] <Amaya|2> skel: by footprint I assume you mean it's size, rather than a version of backtrack?
[17:20] <diamonds> does it not come with a shell...?
[17:20] <Amaya|2> *its
[17:20] <skel> Amaya|2: check out http://www.backtrack-linux.org/downloads/   (yes to size question in relation to footprint)
[17:20] <Steevca> If i install a wicd and upgrade to 12.04 beta2 via live cd,will the upgrade remove the wicd or not?
[17:20] <bekks> diamonds: boot the kernel with the "text" option.
[17:20] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | diamonds
[17:20] <Steevca> I am on 11.10 now.
[17:21] <bekks> Steevca: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only
[17:21] <diamonds> oh, thank you
[17:21] <skel> Amaya|2: looks like its larger, about 3gb
[17:21] <Amaya|2> skel: Thanks for th link, I do have Backtrack downloaded somewhere, i'll go look.
[17:21] <diamonds> switching to tty1 works, btw
[17:21] <Steevca> I am asking about a software not about 12.04 bekks
[17:21] <skel> Amaya|2: np
[17:21] <sacarlson> rhizmoe: I definitly see genree in Rhythmbox 0.12.8
[17:21] <diamonds> which one was I getting the black screen on... tty7?
[17:21] <bekks> Steevca: You are asking about the behaviour of a software in 12.04, to be exactly.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: the upgrade will upgrade the apps you have installed
[17:22] <Steevca> ActionParsnip, so it won't delte wicd and install network-manager? :D
[17:22] <sacarlson> rhizmoe: I guess you'll just have to move back to ubuntu 10.04 that has 3 more years of life left in it
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: as far as I am aware, no. I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:22] <Amaya|2> skel: 2.6Gb :\
[17:22] <Steevca> Because network-manager can't detect my network connection on 12.04 and i had to install 11.10.
[17:22] <Steevca> ActionParsnip, ok,i ll' check.Thanks.
[17:22] <skel> Amaya|2: thats not that bad, if you have a 4gb thumb that leaves plenty of room
[17:23] <Amaya|2> skel: Hmm i'm not sure, i'll have to look around
[17:24] <Mordy> hi can someone tell if I need nvidia drivers on ubuntu or not because now everything is working perfectly ?
[17:24] <Dr_willis> Mordy,  depends on how speedy the gpl drivers for your needs.
[17:24] <Amaya|2> skel: I mean I have my iPod and Blakberry I could also use, but I'm not sure If I want to risk losing data from there
[17:25] <skel> Amaya|2: ehh yeah I wouldn't do that, not sure either of those would work really
[17:25] <skel> Amaya|2: since they probably have to "switch" to a USB storage mode
[17:25] <Dr_willis> you cant boot from an ipod or blackberry as far as i know...
[17:25] <skel> Amaya|2: and the boot utility has to write a boot-loader
[17:26] <skel> Amaya|2: which could screw up your device if its not a standard usb disk drive
[17:26] <sacarlson> mordy: if it's not broke don't fix it.  but there is a lot of eye candy in the propriatary nvidia drivers that I love, when you get exposed to it you might not live without it
[17:26] <rhizmoe> sacarlson: huh. i have 0.13.1...maybe i should poke around more? weird.
[17:27] <skel> anyone using wayland w/out X?
[17:27] <sacarlson> rhizmoe: sometimes if you don't look you don't see
[17:27] <skel> just read about it this morning
[17:27] <skel> curious how far along it is for window managers etc
[17:27] <rhizmoe> sacarlson: dag, just saw the pane-config thing in prefs. i just looked past it before. thanks :)
[17:27] <diamonds> bekks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 < are these the instructions I should be working from?
[17:28] <diamonds> thanks, I'm just checking to make sure i'm on the right track
[17:28] <Amaya|2> skel: thanks for the advice there
[17:28] <skel> Amaya|2: anytime
[17:28] <Amaya|2> Also I wonder why my IRC client blacks out the names/text of people who refer to my nick
[17:28] <Amaya|2> it's weird
[17:28] <diamonds> oh sorry the article Dr_willis suggested goes over that further down
[17:28] <skel> Amaya|2: just your colorscheme
[17:28] <skel> Amaya|2: what client?
[17:28] <Amaya|2> KVIrc
[17:28] <Mordy> sacarlson: I installed nvida drivers but then I have problems with dual screen so i unistall them
[17:29] <skel> Amaya|2: I'd poke around in preferences and see what themes it supports
[17:29] <sacarlson> Mordy: oh I think I would go with 2 screens over eye candy as long as I can still view video's
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: +1
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Mordy: how did you install the video driver and what GPU do you use?
[17:30] <skel> I <3 virtual desktops :-P
[17:30] <donpdonp> anyone notice flash audio started to skip recently, possibly due to recent package updates? (ubuntu 11.10)
[17:30] <Amaya|2> skel: I selected no theme. Also I may as well ask as i'm here, but would you know why it starts ith the welcome screen every time I open the application? It's set to store settigns in a folder, but it stil ltreats it liek a first boot, which is weird considering it remembers my nick that I entered on my first run
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> donpdonp: never had a flash issue personally ;)
[17:31] <skel> Amaya|2: I've never heard of KVirc until today :-P so I wouldn't be much help
[17:31] <Mordy> ActionParsnip: I installed via additionals drivers and I have 8800gts 320mb
[17:31] <skel> Amaya|2: but it looks like there's a channel for it on the network
[17:31] <skel> Amaya|2: maybe ask in there
[17:32] <skel> I just learned about the "awesome" window manager the other day. I really like it
[17:32] <skel> still using Gnome 3 on my work laptop, but considering switching.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Mordy: could try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:32] <Amaya|2> skel: i'll do that, thanks.
[17:36] <mrec> hmm .. is there any reason why normal binaries which used to work with older ubuntu versions suddenly give a permission denied errorno 127?
[17:36] <mrec> with ubuntu 12.04?
[17:36] <StepNjump> I wonder if anyone has ever heard about this: It seems like I lost a lot of files, my folders are empty on an external hard drive. Has this happened to anyone before?
[17:36] <xangua> mrec: #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> mrec: ask in #ubuntu+1 for prerelease stuffplease
[17:37] <mrec> oh my god they turned off execution support in /tmp
[17:37] <mrec> which weirdo's idea was that ...
[17:37] <Vedder26> hi
[17:38] <Amaya|2> skel: yaaaay I found a 4Gb USB that I never knew I had
[17:39] <skel> Amaya|2: I love that :-P I do that all the time when I clean the house, check the couch coushins etc. It's like a holiday
[17:39] <Amaya|2> skel: So now I'll go off and read those URL's on putting a bootable Ubuntu from the drive
[17:39] <Amaya|2> skel: Haha yes, it's not as good as when you find money in the sofa though :p
[17:39] <skel> Amaya|2: ok, keep in mind that ubuntu probably won't have the modified kernel you need for aircrack
[17:40] <Amaya|2> well I modify it like you said, right?
[17:40] <Mordy> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me where is the catch between Nvdia acc graphics driver (version 173) and Nvdia acc graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]?
[17:40] <skel> Amaya|2: and you'd have to go through the patching process for your bootable drive which is a bit harder then just doing it on a native or vm install
[17:40] <Amaya|2> how's it harder?
[17:40] <skel> Amaya|2: yes, but it'd be a lot easier to use a specialized distro thats made exactly for what you want to use
[17:41] <Amaya|2> skel: Oh yes I forgot, i'm using Backtrack
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Mordy: version number, the command I gave will give version 295
[17:41] <skel> Amaya|2: =]
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Amaya|2: not supported here
[17:41] <skel> Amaya|2: do you know if your hardware is whats needed before you go through the effort?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Amaya|2: ask in #backtrack-linux
[17:41] <satyanash> BackTrack and Mint seem to have become quite popular Ubuntu alternatives..?
[17:42] <Amaya|2> skel: Yes i've found my chipset and there seems to be a page on the aircrack website about the patch, I just have to learn how to install it on Backtrack
[17:42] <Mordy> ActionParsnip: im using xubuntu so it's same command :D ?
[17:42] <Amaya|2> ActionParsnip: Thankyou for the link, i'll go and hassle them instead
[17:42] <skel> satyanash: anything that requires kernel patches typically will
[17:42] <satyanash> skel, >
[17:42] <satyanash> skel, ?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Mordy: yes, the only difference is the default app set, the driver structure etc is the same
[17:42] <skel> Amaya|2: they're probably pre-patched and will detect your card on bootup then, if you saw your card on the site, I wouldn't think you'd need to patch anything. Probably just need to fire up aircrack
[17:43] <AggieSigner> Has anyone used Ubuntu 10.04 in Oracle VM VirtualBox?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> AggieSigner,  it should work fine.
[17:43] <Amaya|2> skel: That would be brilliant, i'll fire the questions at their IRC
[17:43] <skel> satyanash: ie in this case Amaya|2 wants to use aircrack which would need ubuntu default kernels to be patched for her network drivers to do what they need to do
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> AggieSigner: I'm sure many have
[17:44] <skel> satyanash: so its just easier to go the way of a specialized distro for one-off single use-cases
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> skel: its under backtrack so isn't supported here
[17:45] <skel> ActionParsnip: sorry, I didn't realize discussing ubuntu comparisons with other distro's was off-topic
[17:45] <Amaya|2> skel: Thankyou once more for your help, and any others that added to the chat. I shall use the resources and information that you advised me to do. You guys are so helpful :)
[17:45] <satyanash> skel, true
[17:46] <thanmustoki> hello world :)
[17:46] <skel> Amaya|2: anytime :) if you ever consider switching over to ubuntu as your primary os, this channel has some great people in it. Sometimes you'll just need to be patient or also try the forums etc.
[17:46] <georgelappies> what is the safest way (least likely to break upgrades) to change the unity launcher from orange to blue?
[17:46] <Mordy> ActionParsnip: now im installing drivers :D
[17:47] <Dr_willis> georgelappies,  set it transparant, then set your wallpaper with a blue bar under where the launcher is at. :)
[17:47] <t1m310rd> in brasero disk burner, it refers to disk speed as MiB(mebibyte) this is 2^20 bytes, vs 10^6 for MB. Since MiB is so rarely used, does anyone know if this is just a typo, or if it is truly using MiB?
[17:47] <Planetary> I downgraded to 10.04 and want to use Shotwell photo manager and its saying my version (.5) is not compatible with the library (.95) How do I make it so I can use Shotwell?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> georgelappies,  in the next release the color is suppose to some how get based on your wallpaper or some magic. :)
[17:48] <georgelappies> Dr_willis: pardon the ignorance but where do I set it as transparent?
[17:48] <Amaya|2> skel: Well I'm not sure i could ever leave windows due to compatibility and familiarity, but I'm definitely warming to the idea of Ubuntu. I do love it so far. I'm a little overwhelemed by how different it is and some of the extra understanding it requires, but then it seems as though that can only be a good thing
[17:48] <diamonds> so setting nomodeset and acpi_osi=none (on my virtual machine) got me this far: http://screencast.com/t/sniOsHUy4w67
[17:48] <diamonds> but it seems to stop here
[17:48] <Dr_willis> georgelappies,  the ccsm tool has some unity tweaks/settings i belive.  Im on 12.04 now so cant be sure where its at in any other location.
[17:48] <skel> Amaya|2: that seems to be the general consensus =] (better understanding only can be a good thing)
[17:49] <georgelappies> i am also on 12.04, so i need to install ccsm?
[17:49] <Amaya|2> It seems as though entering commands is a very normal thing to do in Ubuntu, whereas obviously I'm used to GUI's in Windows
[17:49] <Marzata> 12.04 Unity?
[17:49] <Dr_willis> georgelappies,  the 'myunity'  tool might also have the setting.
[17:50] <Amaya|2> I'm not sure if I could get used t ocommands, because not only must I remember then, but if I don't know them then I must search for them, whereas GUI's seem to require common sense
[17:50] <Dr_willis> Amaya|2,  i use commands in windows all the time. :) and often guis dont make sence..
[17:50] <skel> Amaya|2: wait till you see Windows 8, you might rethink that :-P (I kid, to each their own)
[17:51] <Amaya|2> skel: Haha, I heard somebody about them removing the start bar?
[17:51] <Amaya|2> *something
[17:51] <Guest70844> Amaya|2: in my experience, just about all the features in the settings GUIs for windows are replicated in Ubuntu. But I still find commands to be more efficient.
[17:51]  * skel nods.
[17:52] <skel> I loved this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yVpbFMhOAwE
[17:52] <AggieSigner> Okay,  The problem I'm having is that after I go through the steps of getting it set up, it will start installing but then then all I see is the background like you would see when it starts up.
[17:52] <Amaya|2> Guest70844: I understand what yu mean, but to me, the notion of using commands seems very much like it requires a different mindset to tackling the problems. I'm not against this, but at the moment it's alien and I just don't need to do it.
[17:53] <Dr_willis> on IRC support - its much easier to give a command then to try to talk someone through navigating a GUI/menus/ that may not even be in english. :)
[17:54] <diamonds> is it a problem if I can't get anything to load in tty7>
[17:54] <diamonds> ?
[17:54] <Dr_willis> diamonds,  what do you mean load? that tty is where X normally runs.
[17:55] <diamonds> I can switch to tty1 and do stuff, and my sshd is running which is the main thing I need
[17:55] <Amaya|2> Dr_willis: I suppose that makes sense, but then i'm relying on other people to answer my problems and not Google, where I interpret what I see
[17:55] <diamonds> Dr_willis: I installed minimal, I thought I'd get a prompt there by default
[17:55] <diamonds> but I don't get anything, just a blank screen
[17:55] <Dr_willis> diamonds,  only if the upstart confiugs are starting one.
[17:55] <diamonds> ah ok
[17:55] <Dr_willis> 1-6 = consoles. 7+ X displays normally
[17:55] <diamonds> so just switch tty's and go about my bidniss
[17:56] <diamonds> OK I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a "problem"
[17:56] <Dr_willis> you may want to learn to use screen, instead of a lot of consoles.
[17:56] <diamonds> I use tmux
[17:56] <diamonds> anyway I hate doing stuff in the VM window, I just ssh to the guest
[17:57] <Dr_willis> if you need more then 6 consoles. its not too hard to make it start up more
[17:57] <diamonds> and tmux and go on  (to other servers etc) from there
[17:57] <Amaya|2> Right, i'm going to work through some tasks and get working on aircrack, thankyou for the help again
[17:57] <Amaya|2> Also I don't suppose anybody knows a command on IRC for leaving the channel without leaving the client
[17:57] <Amaya|2> ?
[17:57] <ikonia>  /part
[17:57] <Amaya|2> brilliant, thanks
[17:57] <diamonds> Amaya|2: /part #channelname
[17:58] <pawan_tejwani> in openstack, when uploading an image to cloud, I get error saying "failed to check for existing mainfest", I checked my glance connections and rest of the configuration. what else can be the error ? please help. I am following cssoss diablo guide v2
[18:00] <Guest13388> hello
[18:01] <pawan_tejwani> in openstack, when uploading an image to cloud, I get error saying "failed to check for existing mainfest", I checked my glance connections and rest of the configuration. what else can be the error ? please help. I am following cssoss diablo guide v2
[18:02] <Guest13388> I am currently running 10.04 lucid but thinking about upgrading to 12.0 PP Beta. If I do upgrade it, do I have to reinstall 12.04 official release thats coming out on april 26th ?
[18:02] <Guest13388> Please kindly advise
[18:02] <bekks> Guest13388: You dont have to reinstall.
[18:02] <bekks> But you shouldnt update to a beta.
[18:03] <Guest13388> thanks bekks.. ok, I will wait until the official release comes out
[18:05] <Raliegh> Anyone here available to help me with configuring Monit?
[18:06] <Dr_willis> !info monit
[18:06] <Dr_willis> never heard of it.
[18:07] <ratcheer> I haven't either. Why not just use Upstart?
[18:08] <Raliegh> Because somebody mentioend Monit last night, and it seems to do what I need (check to see if a process is running and if not, restart it) but I don't know how to configure it.
[18:09] <skel> is upstart like chkconfig for ubuntu?
[18:09] <Raliegh> Not properly at least. Can't really make heads or tails of Monit's documentation.
[18:10] <ratcheer> Upstart is like systemd or System V init for Ubuntu.
[18:10] <skel> ah ok
[18:10] <Raliegh> Doesn't sound like it does what I need it to.
[18:11] <Arturro> Hello. I've got some problem while trying "sudo apt-get build-dep libreoffice". Terminal tells me that:
[18:11] <Arturro> "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:11] <Arturro> libgtk2.0-dev : Depends: libxi-dev (>= 1:1.0.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
[18:11] <Arturro> libxtst-dev: Depends: libxi-dev but it is not going to be installed"
[18:11] <skel> Raleigh : try using chkconfig
[18:11] <ratcheer> Raliegh: Just run "initctl status <jobname>", where jobname is a service like bluetooth or plymouth.
[18:12] <Escherial> for sme reason, update manager on ubuntu 11.10 keeps notifying me that "enterprise search server based on Lucene - common files" and "Tomcat integration" consistently need to be upgraded, but i can't select them or get rid of them
[18:12] <gadien> So, between Ubuntu and Debian, what folders can be shared for a partition? eg: /home and how big should I make them.
[18:12] <ratcheer> To see all your jobs, run "initctl list"
[18:12] <powersurge> hey, is there any way to tell what binaries are installed by a package from the command line?
[18:13] <Arturro> So I tried to install libxi-dev... but it requires libxi6... So I tried to install it... but it turns out that I already HAVE libxi6 (newer version that I've downloaded)
[18:13] <Raliegh> They aren't services. These are for my various shoutcast servers ratcheer, and I have them start up with a script in /etc/init.d, a separate one for each. If one goes down I simply need something to check for that and run "/etc/init.d/xxx restart" if it is down.
[18:13] <zykotick9> gadien: even sharing home between ubuntu and debian will probably lead to issues, due to different versions of packages... best to keep them separate
[18:14] <zykotick9> powersurge: "dpkg -L foo"
[18:14] <powersurge> zykotick9: cool, thanks
[18:15] <ratcheer> Raliegh: Upstart could handle all of that. But, it is more complicated than what I currently know how to do. Read this: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook
[18:16] <skel> sounds like you could make a simple watchdog script and daemonize it
[18:17] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, I enabled the accelerate 3d graphics in vmware, but yet compiz does not work and the same errors shows up :(
[18:17] <zykotick9> afeijo: as far as i know (few versions out of date info follows) vmware can't do compiz
[18:18] <afeijo> zykotick9, that is stunishing, since virtualbox can do it for years
[18:18] <afeijo> I only wanted the grid from compiz :(
[18:18] <skel> im pretty sure kvm + spice can support compiz
[18:18] <skel> is the host windows?
[18:19] <zykotick9> skel: have you tried spice?  i've never gotten any video accelleration in kvm
[18:19] <afeijo> skel yes
[18:19] <skel> ah ok no go then
[18:19] <afeijo> no go? lol
[18:19] <Mord_> hello I have urgent case here I have installed latest nvidia drivers and restarted pc but now it freezes at logo screen / progress bar? can anyone help
[18:19] <catcher> Is it possible to restart X without losing my session (all my open windows)?
[18:20] <zykotick9> catcher: no
[18:20] <catcher> My video card driver gets sluggish over time and needs to be restarted.
[18:21] <goh> is there any way to increase a the partition size on a dual boot without reformatting ubuntu? (damaged install of windows, want to re-order and reinstall it, i don't care about blowing it away(windows that is)
[18:21] <zykotick9> Mord_: latest nvidia from nvidia.com?
[18:21] <satyanash> Interestingly I remember restarting ssh without D/C from my ssh session..
[18:21] <afeijo> goh, yeah, use gparted app
[18:21] <skel> zyko gah cmon nick complete.. spice supports at least 2d accel that i know of
[18:21] <zykotick9> skel: thanks.
[18:22] <Mord_> zykotick9: not from nvidia from terminal
[18:22] <skel> using android irc client.  apologies for any weird responses
[18:22] <goh> afeijo: that WILL save my current linux partition in its entirety? what's the 'command" or option to incrase GP
[18:22] <afeijo> goh, gparted is a application, install and open it, but you will probably need to do it thru a LiveCD since you're currently using your partitions
[18:22] <goh> already installed
[18:22] <Fyodorovna> goh, you can't resize a partition your using, use gparted with a live cd.
[18:23] <afeijo> goh, the app let you resize any partition, add, remove, etc
[18:23] <goh> OOOOH
[18:23] <goh> live cd
[18:23] <goh> brilliant, does the live cd version have to match my current version? (11.04)?
[18:23] <granty> hey, could someone help me with getting my wireless ad-hoc Internet connection sharing working, i'll tried a bunch of tutorials online and nothing it working, i can establish a connection, but Internet is not shared
[18:23] <afeijo> goh, no
[18:23] <goh> thanks a lot guys, life savers.
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> hi all, does anybody know if it's possible to tell the Unity Launcher which background color it should use? I understand now it's automatically determined by calculating the icon's most dominant color
[18:24] <pmjdebruijn> can I change that in the .desktop file for example?
[18:24] <john_700> pmj: Try MyUnity app
[18:24] <pmjdebruijn> john_700: no, I meant for one particular application
[18:24] <pmjdebruijn> not globally
[18:24] <john_700> pmj: okay
[18:24] <pmjdebruijn> I'm looking at this from an application developers perspective, not as a user
[18:25] <Mord_> zykotick9: I use those commands sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:25] <granty> i'm connecting to internet using mobile dongle on ubuntu, then want to share that internet connection through wireless
[18:26] <zykotick9> Mord_: hopefully someone else can assist.  i'm not getting involved with cutting edge PPA installed stuff.  good luck.
[18:26] <cero> hi
[18:26] <granty> i can create an adhoc connection, but internet does not get shared, i've followed a few online tutorial about how share the connection and stuff
[18:26] <cero> yes
[18:27] <granty> any ideas, pls :'(
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> pmjdebruijn: myunity can tweak it I believe
[18:27] <ratcheer> granty: Won't that cost you a fortune in mobile data fees?
[18:27] <Mord_> zykotick9: maybe can you help how to restore system?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> !ics | granty
[18:27] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | Mord_
[18:27] <granty> i'm on a special contract, and i live in South Africa, where mobile internet is cheaper than landline :(
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> granty: so?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> granty: the link I gave will let you set it up...
[18:28] <granty> thats the tutorial i followed
[18:28] <Kabiigon> with 4gb of ram and core 2 duo is reccomended ubuntu 32 or ubuntu 64
[18:28] <pmjdebruijn> ActionParsnip: AFAIK MyUnity only does global settings
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> pmjdebruijn: its the first ta thatopens
[18:29] <afeijo> Kabiigon, not sure if 32 bits can get the whole 4gb RAM... can it, guys?
[18:29] <Mord_> ubottu: can you tell me what i need to choose in recovery mode resume, fsck remount or root?
[18:30] <zykotick9> Kabiigon: 4GB is kinda boarderline, it's up to you.  With straight 32 it will only see 3.2GB, and with 32PAE you get a "hack" so the system can use all 4GB, but processes are still limited.
[18:30] <afeijo> lol ubottu
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: with PAE you can access up to 64Gb RAM
[18:30] <afeijo> hmmm indeed, I used PAE with win2003 once
[18:30] <Kabiigon> zykotick9, so go with 64
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Mord_: recovery mode, then select root
[18:30] <zykotick9> Kabiigon: SOME things are easier with 32bit
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: its a bit of a hack but does work
[18:31] <Kabiigon> zykotick9, can ubuntu 64 run 32 bit apps
[18:31] <cero> alguien habla espa?ol
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !es
[18:31] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, with some performance loss?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Kabiigon: yes but the packages get messy
[18:31] <zykotick9> Kabiigon: 98% or so... ;)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: slightly, yes
[18:31] <afeijo> my office machine is 3 years old, damn slow piece of crap (sorry heheh)
[18:32] <cero> alguien habla espa?ol
[18:32] <afeijo> my virtualizations there bleed to run
[18:32] <afeijo> cero, ñ
[18:32] <zykotick9> !es | cero
[18:32] <afeijo> !Pt
[18:32] <Kabiigon> if im not going to be doing 64bit heavy processing plus this build is for my dad not my self i should just stick with 32
[18:32] <afeijo> hehehe cool
[18:33] <Kabiigon> im installing lion on the machine as well
[18:33] <zykotick9> Kabiigon: if you have no "need" for 64bit, use 32
[18:33] <afeijo> the portuguese version is not that well writen, but ok
[18:33] <zykotick9> Kabiigon: apple lion?
[18:33] <Kabiigon> yes apple lion
[18:34] <Kabiigon> zykotick9, yes
[18:35] <gadien> zykotick9, ok ty
[18:35] <Kabiigon> zykotick9, should I be going with 11.10 or beta 2
[18:37] <test1> How can I resize desktop icons with XFCE ?
[18:37] <test1> I tried to follow a guide but it doesn't work
[18:38] <zykotick9> !doesntwork | test1
[18:38] <test1> xD
[18:38] <test1> zykotick9: It seems that nothing changed
[18:39] <granty> hey, i followed that tutorial: "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing"
[18:39] <zykotick9> test1: sorry i don't use xfce much (i do in some vms, but don't customize them much) - so i'm no help.  I just find !doesntwork hilarious and love sending it ;)
[18:39] <granty> and still can't share my internet connection over wireless
[18:40] <test1> LOL zykotick9
[18:41] <granty> when i look at connection information properties: internet hardware interface is GSM (ttyUSB0)
[18:41] <liu_> ...
[18:41] <granty> and wireless connection is 802.11 WiFi (eth2)
[18:42] <mirko1> test1: actually it's in the Settings Manager, under Desktop -> Icons -> Icon Size. didn't that work for you?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> granty: what can you do / not do
[18:42] <gadien> I think there may be a problem with my screen resolution... I think some programs are displaying the ok or apply button below the clickable interface. my screen is a 10" eeepc 1000H and display settings only lets me change the width of the screen.. can I change height?
[18:43] <test1> lol mirko1 I was following the guide for panel icons! O.O you've made me realize that
[18:43] <test1> thx
[18:44] <granty> hey, my broadband dongle connects my laptop to the internet fine
[18:44] <granty> i can setup an ad-hoc wireless network connection that say my Iphone or other laptop can connect to
[18:44] <granty> but the internet is not shared over wireless
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> granty: ok, after setting things up can the sharing system still access the web?
[18:46] <Gnea> !usbfs
[18:46] <Gnea> !usb
[18:46] <Gnea> well this is annoying... anyone know why usbfs was removed from ubuntu?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> granty: can the system accessing the web over the wifi ping the sharing system ok?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> granty: can the system accessing the shared connection ping 8.8.8.8?
[18:47] <granty> i'm connecting on iphone
[18:47] <granty> not sure how to ping from the iphone
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> granty: via the shared wifi?
[18:48] <granty> iphone is connected to the shared iphone
[18:48] <Gnea> oh, udev.... lame
[18:49] <roasted> Anybody know what terminal command you run to figure out what type of touchpad you have?
[18:49] <granty> so must i try ping my iphone? from my laptop sharing the internet connection?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> granty: ok so is there a PC going to connect to the shared 3G connection.
[18:49] <Raliegh> Would anyone happen to know how to setup a PID file with this start/stop/restart script for Monit monitoring purposes? http://pastebin.com/4VJraAdc
[18:49] <granty> ActionParsnip: yes
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> granty: then get that hooked up and test stuff
[18:49] <zykotick9> roasted: "egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices" taken from http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad#Determining_the_type_of_Touchpad
[18:50] <Gnea> !kernel
[18:50] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > Gnea
[18:51] <Gnea> zykotick9: not necessary, but thanks
[18:52] <zykotick9> Gnea: after !usbfs, !usb, !kernel within 5 minutes, i'd say it is necessary ;)
[18:52] <Gnea> zykotick9: your attitude, however, is not. welcome to /ignore ;)
[18:53] <arkiver> Hello I am using ubuntu11.10, and i've observed a weird thing, whenever i use chrome and my gmail account is open, my ubuntu just freezes
[18:53] <arkiver> what could be the reason ?
[18:53] <arkiver> Google chrome browser I meant
[18:53] <Gnea> arkiver: does it happen with firefox?
[18:54] <miller> hey guys
[18:54] <Chaser> Raliegh, you can use start-stop-daemon to start a program and write pid file for monit
[18:54] <arkiver> Gnea: well it always used to freeze and i just realized that whenever it happens google chrome is always running with my gmail account open in it.
[18:54] <arkiver> I'm going to use firefox now
[18:54] <arkiver> and give it a try
[18:54] <miller> i have been searching this through the documentation but didn't find anything... is it possible to map any application to use swap rather than using physical memory?
[18:55] <Gnea> arkiver: see if you can duplicate it. if you can't, it maybe necessary to update chrome.
[18:57] <arkiver> Gnea: can you tell me what do you mean by duplicating it ?
[18:57] <tom1mt> join #modilabs
[18:58] <granty> ActionParsnip: ok the PC with the internet connection say "my Dell laptop" cannot seem to ping the other PC ( in this case my Iphones wireless ) connected via the ad-hoc wireless ( the wireless connection setup on my Dell Laptop ) connection
[18:58] <granty> ActionParsnip: is say Destination Host Unreachable
[18:58] <granty> ActionParsnip: even though my Iphone says its connected to my Dell laptops wireless fine
[18:59] <Gnea> arkiver: see if firefox freezes, too
[19:00] <granty> ActionParsnip: "Dell Laptop" ( has internet connection ) -> trying share through ad-hoc wireless -> connecting to ad-hoc wireless with iphone ( i want to use the internet connection available on my dell laptop on my Iphone, through the wireless )
[19:02] <granty> ActionParsnip: sorry if i'm struggling to follow your advice
[19:04] <granty> ActionParsnip: so i'm failing to ping my iphone connected to my dell laptop :(
[19:05] <granty> i've connected my iphone to wireless routers a couple of times, and the internet works fine, but can't seem to create an ad-hoc wireless connection on Ubuntu to do the same job :'(
[19:06] <roasted> hello!
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> granty: if you run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf     on the system accessing the shared connection, do you get web access?
[19:07] <mirko1> miller: I could be wrong, but I really doubt that this is possible. swap isn't some sort of functionally equivalent to RAM. afterall, any program *needs* in RAM to do anything, you cannot run programs "in the swap space". what are you trying to do?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> granty: if you cannot ping the sharing system then your issue is a bit more fundamental, try pinging by IP rather than name
[19:08] <Sorinan> My system doesn't boot anymore at 3.2.0-22 (it doesn't ask for root partition crypt password), while it boots normally with 3.2.0-21. What can I do?
[19:08] <mirko1> miller:  *needs*  to be in RAM i meant
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Sorinan: ask in #ubuntu+1 for precise support
[19:08] <x_chr> Hi. I'm having a problem with my DVD drive. It seems to be at a fairly low level. The drive will read CDs and burnt DVD-Rs with Data on them. However, it won't read DVD-Rs formatted as DVDS (with a VIDEO_TS folder) or commercial DVDs. Attempting to mount gives a "no medium found" error, though the drive shows up in the disk utility UI. Thanks for any suggestions.
[19:09] <miller> mirko1, i have solr and memcached working on my development machine which has 8gb but when i need to run both of them fully for testing. everything starts hanging
[19:09] <Sorinan> ActionParsnip, that you!
[19:09] <Sorinan> thank you*
[19:09] <miller> mirko1, getting  hard to work with... i wanna force solr at least to use swap area as memory
[19:10] <zykotick9> x_chr: you don't mount (video)DVDs, you play them.  see "/msg ubottu dvd" if you haven't added commercial DVD playback yet.
[19:10] <granty> ActionParsnip: i am trying to ping by IP, that seems not to work
[19:11] <granty> should i try use static IP on the system connecting to the wireless?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> granty: then you may need to set the IP on the system accessing the shared connection. There is no DHCP server
[19:11] <granty> ActionParsnip: what do i set it to?
[19:12] <granty> ActionParsnip: my ad hoc wireless connection is using: 10.42.43.1
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> granty: the same IP as the wireless device on the sharing system, just change the last number of the IP
[19:12] <x_chr> zykotick9: I've done all that, no luck. Even if I lacked those libraries, wouldn't the fact that I can't even see the data, or that my system seems to deny the existence of any disc, imply that it's something lower?
[19:13] <mirko1> miller: I  don't know about solr or memcached but I guess they have some sort of RAM usage configuration, or a way to keep certain parts in RAM and others on the disk. I suggest to ask the appropriate experts for these software
[19:13] <granty> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll use the same Subnet Mask, but then what should my Router setting be?
[19:13] <zykotick9> x_chr: maybe?  sorry i'm actually leaving so can't help right now.
[19:13] <x_chr> zykotick9: That's alright. Thanks!
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> granty: yes, same subnet, and set the internal IP address of the sharing system as the default gateway
[19:14] <MohammadSyria> السلام عليكم
[19:14] <x_chr> If anyone else has suggestions for mt DVD drive issues (see above) - I'm all ears.
[19:14] <miller> mirko1, it is not related these applications... i wanna push apps using physical memory heavily to use swap  area
[19:14] <aoeui`>  /bye
[19:15] <aoeui`> eo
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> x_chr: what media players have you tried?
[19:15] <roasted> Question - if I want to remastersys my Ubuntu install, am I to do it on a livecd or can I do it when booted up to the actual system?
[19:15] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: Really just vlc.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> roasted: do it in an inistalled OS and use the LiveCD to customize
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> x_chr: so not many at all... not thougt to try any others?
[19:16] <roasted> ActionParsnip: not sure I understand. I installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but I'd like to snapshot it into a custom ISO and use that ISO to "reimage it" (if I dare say) when I get my SSD tomorrow.
[19:16] <granty> ActionParsnip: ok, how its throwing issues when i ping to my Iphone connected to wireless:
[19:16] <granty> From 10.42.43.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[19:16] <granty> From 10.42.43.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> roasted: not sure there dude, I've looked into that a few times
[19:16] <Lukan27_> Critical help needed: I was on my laptop on Skype (texting), playing some music and updating. Went out to make a cup of coffee, and suddenly BAM, black screen with underscore in top-left corner. Hard reset, and now it won't boot (stuck at loading animation). Error checking fails.
[19:16] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: What worries me is that putting in, for example, a data CD brings up a window showing me my files, and the disc is shown in the unity sidebar thing. With standard DVDs, no response.
[19:17] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I'm just not sure if I can run remastersys when I'm actually booted into the install I want to back up. The guides I'm reading don't say.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> x_chr: did you install the DVD decoder?
[19:17] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: You mean libdvdread?
[19:17] <bekks> Lukan27_: Try booting a livecd and check wether your harddisc is still alive.
[19:18] <Fyodorovna> roasted, you backup from the OS
[19:18] <mirko1> miller: again, I doubt that this is possible. inactive, currently unused memory goes to the swap space anyway when the RAM gets full. if that's not the case, then the whole data of those software if constatly in use and I really don't see how you could force them into the swap space.  i guess there must be a way to tune the RAM/Disk usage for these software-
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> x_chr: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:18] <roasted> Fyodorovna: so I need to be booted in the actual OS I want to make an ISO of?
[19:18] <Lukan27_> @bekks: forgot to tell, I tried LiveUSB and worked well. HDD seems accessable, besides no permission to access.
[19:18] <Fyodorovna> roasted, yes the app runs from a terminal.
[19:18] <bekks> Lukan27_: No permissions to access?
[19:18] <roasted> Fyodorovna: appreciate it!
[19:19] <Fyodorovna> roasted, no problem have fun.
[19:19] <noel_g> I have a ubuntu box I am trying to SSH into.  I can ssh from 2 machines, but not from the third.  All using cygwin.  the auth.log on ubuntu shows this  http://pastie.org/3740666  any ideas what could be going on?
[19:19] <Lukan27_> bekks: Can't access the disk in LiveUSB, tells me I don't have permission. Properties says it's inaccesible.
[19:19] <miller> mirko1, here is something http://just-more-thoughts.blogspot.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1104-memory-management-36.html
[19:20] <bekks> miller: If two boxes work, and the third doesnt, it isnt a problem of the ssh server you are trying to connect.
[19:20] <miller> bekks, it is not about ssh
[19:20] <miller> bekks, it is about manipulating memory usage of the applications & system
[19:21] <bekks> miller: Sorry, tabfail. :) I wanted to talk to noel_g :)
[19:21] <miller> bekks, sure no problem
[19:22] <noel_g> bekks yes, I figured, but i dont know where to start looking on the third box.  was hoping someone could determine what may be going on based on the log
[19:22] <bekks> Lukan27_: Did you try mounting the filesystems - in a terminal?
[19:22] <Defusal_> hi everyone
[19:22] <Defusal_> is it possible to boot ubuntu off a flash drive but have it run completely in memory?
[19:23] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: Yep. done all that. Also installed a bunch of medibuntu stuff
[19:23] <Lukan27_> bekks: Don't know how, but I can go into the Live USB again..
[19:23] <Defusal_> is there a simple way to do this
[19:23] <bekks> Defusal_: Yes. No.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> x_chr: try other players. Try gnome-mplayer
[19:23] <Defusal_> ok, thanks anyway.. sigh
[19:23] <Defusal_> i wish i knew what was wrong
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: you can install preload but it needs a reboot to apply. Puppylinux has a toram cheatcode
[19:24] <Defusal_> it could be the flash drive, it could be the laptop, it could be ubuntu itself
[19:24] <Defusal_> i just need the system to work
[19:24] <Defusal_> it basically idles forever
[19:24] <beaglebreath> anyone know how to "echo" ASCII characters in linux?  I want to do the equivelent to this BASIC statement CHR$(27) + CHR$(2) + CHR$(4)
[19:25] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, how much effort is installing preload?
[19:25] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: I'm unfortunately doing this all via ssh, but I will later.
[19:25] <Defusal_> parts of my xubuntu gui starts disappearing randomly on this system
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: you'll need to have persistence on the USB, you can then install it an reboot
[19:25] <Defusal_> like, first the top "gnome" menu
[19:25] <Defusal_> and later the titlebars of all windows
[19:25] <mirko1> miller: ahm, and? that link has just some low-level explations of the Linux memory system. what do you see there that could give you a way to force programs into swap (again, I don't think what you want is even possible)? really, I think you're on the wrong track, ask the expert for these software how to control the memory usage.
[19:26] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, im guessing you can't do that with a live ubuntu usb drive
[19:26] <Defusal_> sigh
[19:26] <miller> mirko1, ok, i wll try. thanks anyway
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: yes, that's what the persistance is for.....
[19:26] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, so you can?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: 3rd time now, yes
[19:26] <Defusal_> the current live usb drive has persistance
[19:27] <m477__> hi do you know how from terminal switch to guest-user?
[19:27] <Defusal_> all my settings and stuff is still there after a reboot
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: then install preload and reboot, it will load the most used things to ram and make the OS much faster
[19:27] <andromech> hi
[19:27] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, uhm
[19:27] <Defusal_> thats not exactly what i meant
[19:27] <Defusal_> i don't want to load applications into ram
[19:27] <Defusal_> i want to load the OS itself
[19:27] <Defusal_> because the OS falls apart
[19:28] <Defusal_> which could be cause of the flash storage
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: it will load the most used libs. Did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[19:28] <Defusal_> or one of many other things
[19:28] <m477__> hi do you know how from terminal switch to guest-user?
[19:28] <andrew___> hello
[19:28] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, this worked fine for a year, before i was forced to reboot it a day ago, ever since then it has been giving issues
[19:28] <andromech> hello
[19:28] <Dr_willis_> guest user is special made on login to the guest user. not sure you can login as guest from terminal or console.
[19:28] <Lukan27_> bekks: I'm ready in the Live USB if you have the time to guide me through mounting..
[19:28] <Defusal_> all it needs to run is a single script, it has no monitor, keyboard or mouse
[19:29] <Defusal_> but parts of the OS keeps dying
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Defusal_: sounds like the file system may be damaged then, you can fsck it in a different liveCD, or an installed Linux OS
[19:29] <Defusal_> sigh
[19:29] <andromech> so where exactly is this place and what are we discussing about
[19:29] <m477__> Dr_willis_: I want to switch from normal user to guest user by terminal if it is possible
[19:29] <Dr_willis_> m477__,  i dont think its possible.
[19:29] <bekks> Lukan27_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[19:29] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, what exactly must i run/
[19:29] <Dr_willis_> m477__,  it also may depend on what version of ubuntu you are using.
[19:30] <m477__> Dr_willis_: 10.04
[19:30] <Dr_willis_> m477__,  askubuntu.com might have some info on doing it.  11.xx and above use guest differntly then how 10.04 and below did i belive.
[19:30] <Defusal_> ActionParsnip, nevermind, i'll figure it out
[19:30] <Defusal_> thanks
[19:31] <L3mce> Defusal_ what filesystem is it? ext2,3 xfs...
[19:32] <Defusal_> L3mce, can't remember
[19:32] <andromech> i have trouble with hardware can anyone help???
[19:33] <Lukan27_> bekks: It can't see the HDD now, I ran sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[19:33] <L3mce> fdisk -l
[19:33] <Defusal_> andromech, sure, try turning it off and on again
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> andromech: with some details, yes
[19:33] <bekks> Lukan27_: First ensure the first filesystem you are trying to mount really is sda1
[19:34] <bekks> Lukan27_: As L3mce just said, sudo fdisk -l
[19:34] <granty> ActionParsnip: route -n
[19:34] <granty> Kernel IP routing table
[19:34] <granty> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[19:34] <granty> 0.0.0.0               10.64.64.64     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp0
[19:34] <granty> 10.42.43.0        0.0.0.0             255.255.255.0   U     2      0        0 eth2
[19:34] <granty> 10.64.64.64     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[19:34] <granty> 10.77.182.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 pan1
[19:34] <FloodBot1> granty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <granty> sorry
[19:35] <Unknown0BC> Hi, is there a way to kill all open windows ?
[19:35] <Lukan27_> bekks: Nothing shows.
[19:35] <Unknown0BC> with one keyboard shortcut or something like that.
[19:35] <Lukan27_> bekks: wait
[19:35] <jstogin> I just mounted a second hard drive, but can't seem to get it to be used. Can someone help me?
[19:35] <Dr_willis_> Unknown0BC,  thats a bit extreme :)
[19:35] <andromech> nah wat i meant was i got 16 gb ram which is supposed to run at 1600 but i have to downclok it to 1333 7 7 7 21. can someone tell what i need to adjust to run at 1600 i mean NB etc and voltages too
[19:35] <granty> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917887/
[19:36] <bekks> andromech: Thats not an Ubuntu issue
[19:36] <Lukan27_> bekks: Yes, it's sda1 (ID83 LINUX, biggest partition)
[19:36] <andromech> whoops soree ... wont ask anything more
[19:36] <Dr_willis_> andromech,  ask in #hardware perhaps.
[19:36] <bekks> Lukan27_: Just nopaste the output of fdisk -l to a pastebin service
[19:37] <andromech> k
[19:37] <ArchInsomniac> hello
[19:37] <onda> irc.420chan.org
[19:37] <saugkraft> Hallo
[19:37] <andromech> hello
[19:37] <Unknown0BC> hello
[19:38] <ArchInsomniac> I see a download for CD option for 12.04 but is there a USB version?
[19:38] <Lukan27_> bekks: I'm kinda writing from another computer, can't write all that..
[19:38] <andromech> so how do i get to #hardware ??
[19:38] <Fyodorovna> ArchInsomniac, you load the iso to a usb
[19:38] <bekks> Lukan27_: Then copy it
[19:38] <ArchInsomniac> oh sweet
[19:38] <ArchInsomniac> that's it? i thought i remembered that there was more to it than that
[19:39] <jstogin> can someone help me with a hard drive mounting question?
[19:39] <Mindkontrol> Sup everyone
[19:39] <Fyodorovna> ArchInsomniac, using a app to load like unetbootin or others, although that release is a hybrid can be loaded other ways as well.
[19:39] <Lukan27_> bekks: I can't connect to the net with it, and the only USB I got sits in the machine. So..
[19:39] <tankian> hello
[19:39] <badgoat> hi everybody
[19:40] <mirko1> !ask | jstogin
[19:40] <Lukan27_> bekks: But it is sda1
[19:40] <bekks> Lukan27_: Then whats the exact error when trying to mount it?
[19:40] <L3mce> Lukan27_: apt-get install pastebinit; fdisk -l | pastebinit
[19:40] <ArchInsomniac> woah
[19:40] <L3mce> well... dont put exactly that... it will ask for confirmation and mess up
[19:40] <ArchInsomniac> Ubuntu is way smaller that Mint
[19:41] <badgoat> there a new web site if you need a nice dual boot ! http://www.linux2deal.byethost4.com
[19:41] <bogdan> poszukuję pomocy odnośnie ubuntu
[19:41] <Lukan27_> bekks: It does mount without problems it says, but I can't find it anywhere, either though GUI or terminal
[19:41] <bekks> !pl | bogdan
[19:41] <L3mce> Lukan27_: apt-get -y install pastebinit; fdisk -l | pastebinit  would auto accept install of pastebinit then give you a url to post
[19:41] <jstogin> Question: I mounted a second hard drive to my Ubuntu virtual machine to free up space. This worked successfully, but I am still getting warnings telling me I'm running out of memory.
[19:41] <bekks> Lukan27_: You will find it where you mounted it.
[19:41] <bogdan> ok
[19:41] <bogdan> dzięki
[19:41] <jstogin> What can I do to fix this?
[19:41] <bekks> jstogin: memory isnt space.
[19:41] <Mindkontrol> Any must have apps or things to do after setting up Ubuntu as main OS?
[19:42] <x_chr> ActionParsnip: I feel confident the error is below the player level (and probably below user space). Any suggestions for lower-level debugging?
[19:42] <Mindkontrol> besides openssh
[19:42] <L3mce> Lukan27_: yeah... if you mounted it... it will be where you mounted it... if Ubu mounted it it will likely be under /media/severalcharacters
[19:43] <jstogin> bekks: if you can't tell, I'm new to this... I wish I knew how to ask the question
[19:43] <andromech> #hardware
[19:43] <mirko1> jstogin: what is the *exact* error massage you get?
[19:43] <jstogin> what can I do if I have an empty 16gb hard drive mounted in addition to an 8gb hard drive which is almost full?
[19:44] <jstogin> it's a notice that I am almost out of memory and that I should empty the trash. (I wish I kept the exact text) It also includes a button directing me to disk usage analyzer
[19:45] <bekks> jstogin: Whats the exact error message you get?
[19:45] <bekks> ! paste | jstogin
[19:45] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: Well, once you mounted the new drive, did you clear some shit off the old one?
[19:45] <Guest_> I'm thinking about getting 12.04. Is there any reason I should wait until the end of the month (official release) instead of just getting it now?
[19:46] <cap10morgan> Anyone know why "ip addr" would report "eth0" for the IP bound to eth0:0 on one 11.10 host, but "eth0:0" on another (both with the same, latest version of the iproute package)?
[19:46] <Lukan27_> bekks: Ok, found it. But "permissions denied" when cd (home folder)
[19:46] <Mindkontrol> Guest_: Well, they are working on clearing out the bugs before release i am sure.
[19:46] <Dr_willis_> Guest_,  its still  buggy in some areas. depends on how ok you are with that.
[19:46] <bekks> Lukan27_: Because you mounted as root.
[19:46] <Mindkontrol> Guest_: So, getting it early, it may contain some of the things thehy will fix before release
[19:47] <jstogin> Mindkontrol: do I have to do that manually? (ie. is there no way to have ubuntu treat the second hd as a continuation fo the first?)
[19:47] <Lukan27_> bekks: ?
[19:47] <Guest_> One the end of the month rolls around the updates will bring me up to date as if I had waited (the real question I should have asked)?
[19:47] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: There is prolly some way to do that, but it would most likely require you to format and repartition anyways
[19:47] <Dr_willis_> thats a main feature of the apt package manager sysem Guest_  :)
[19:47] <bekks> Lukan27_: When using sudo, you are doing things as root. In this case, it has the effect that your user has no permissions. You dont need to access something with a graphical filebrowser.
[19:47] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: Have you signed up for Ubuntu One?
[19:48] <Mindkontrol> They give you 5g of cloud space i hear.
[19:48] <jstogin> Mindkontrol: I probably did a long time ago... should I try going there?
[19:48] <Lukan27_> bekks: Ok, how do I change it? sudo cd doesn't work either..
[19:49] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: Well, you could use the cloud space to send some of the crap that have on your main box.
[19:49] <Mindkontrol> or drive rather
[19:49] <bekks> Lukan27_: Then how did you mount it in the terminal without sudo?
[19:49] <bogdan> witam
[19:49] <bogdan> szukam pomocy
[19:49] <bogdan> odnośnie ubuntu
[19:50] <Lukan27_> bekks: Oh I did mount with sudo, but accessing folder doesn't give me access with either
[19:50] <test1> i. i installed xubuntu. great DE xfce!
[19:50] <test1> but I'd like to stretch the height of the items in the application menu
[19:50] <test1>  they're too short in height
[19:50] <bekks> Lukan27_: Then sudo works, since you mounted using sudo.
[19:50] <_Marcus> !pl | bogdan
[19:51] <Lukan27_> bekks: Yes, but I can't access the folder (homefolder)
[19:51] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: You could check the mnt folder to see if that is where your drive is
[19:51] <Guest_> Are the Ubuntu Forums the best place to read about getting started with Ubuntu for someone that has only a few weeks of experience with it?
[19:51] <jstogin> I can see it in /mnt/sdb1
[19:51] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: So then go to your home dir and find out what you have that is eating up your space
[19:51] <jstogin> and the disk analyzer tells me I have 16gb of free space
[19:51] <Mindkontrol> games, movies, music, and move that shit over to the new drive
[19:52] <_Marcus> Mindkontrol: Watch the language please
[19:52] <Mindkontrol> jstogin: Yeah, on your 2nd drive, or you main / drive?
[19:52] <Mindkontrol> _Marcus: Sorry
[19:56] <Lukan27_> bekks: Still on it or? =)
[19:56] <bekks> Lukan27_: I am still waiting for the explanation why you cant use sudo for accessing it.
[19:58] <bogdan> jest ktoś z polski
[19:58] <bekks> !pl | bogdan
[19:58] <Lukan27_> bekks: Oh. I dunno! "sudo cd (homefolder)" gives "sudo: cd: command not found". Without sudo it says, bash: cd:(homefolder): Permission denied.
[20:00] <GremlynTab> I am about to do a clean install, but first I am partitioning my drive to separate /home
[20:00] <Guest_> Is the synaptic package manager no longer necessary? I haven't been using Linux for about three years.
[20:01] <bekks> Lukan27_: sudo ls -lha /your/wanted/folder/
[20:01] <bekks> cd isnt a command, it is a shell builtin.
[20:01] <GremlynTab> do I assume directly that once I have created the new partition for the OS (35GB for now) that I can just delete everything from the old position except /home?
[20:02] <GremlynTab> assume correctly*
[20:02] <GremlynTab> stupid autocorrect not understanding technical words...
[20:02] <Lukan27_> bekks: yes and? (folder is encrypted?)
[20:03] <fernando_> Hello. Does Ubuntu have a hardware list of detected hardware on my computer similar to Windows Device Manager?
[20:03] <bekks> Lukan27_: Do you see valuable output?
[20:03] <yeats> GremlynTab: I wouldn't delete anything you can't easily replace unless I had backups (just in general)
[20:03] <bekks> fernando_: lspci and lsusb
[20:03] <GremlynTab> lshw to
[20:03] <GremlynTab> too
[20:04] <Lukan27_> bekks: 2 sec
[20:04] <GremlynTab> lshw -html > hardware_info.html will give you a more readable output you can view in your browser
[20:05] <fernando_> How do I know if Ubuntu detects my webcam or not?
[20:05] <GremlynTab> USB webcam?
[20:05] <fernando_> no - built in monitor
[20:06] <GremlynTab> should be shown on lspci
[20:06] <GremlynTab> I think
[20:06] <Lukan27_> bekks: Ok, got the pastebin something
[20:07] <GremlynTab> hmm, no mine isn't
[20:08] <Lukan27_> bekks: paste.ubuntu.com/917918/
[20:09] <fernando_> What should I do if my webcam doesn't appear on lspci ?
[20:09] <GremlynTab> fernando, I was wrong, mine doesn't show there either it seems
[20:09] <GremlynTab> looking for it now
[20:09] <hypn0> fernando_, install camorama
[20:10] <mirko1> fernando_:, GremlynTab: don't know about webcams, but *which* webcam? in any case, lsusb should show some hardware IDs for which one can google.
[20:10] <tankian> que tal "mirkol:"
[20:11] <GremlynTab> fernando, try the lshw command
[20:12] <fernando_> Ok I did - it says "WARNING: you should run this program as super-user"
[20:12] <fernando_> now a list appears, what is it?
[20:12] <Xabster> a list of hardware
[20:13] <Lukan27_> bekks: You see it?
[20:14] <escapeplan> Moarning guise :D
[20:14] <GremlynTab> yeats, I have backed up the relevant pieces, assuming I don't screw up and delete /home
[20:15] <yeats> GremlynTab: gotcha
[20:15]  * yeats came in after you'd probably been asking about it so doesn't know the full context
[20:16] <tankian> "/mirkol"
[20:16] <GremlynTab> just partitioning the drive and doing a fresh install on a new 35GB partition, wanting to keep home separate so it's easier to do fresh installs in the future
[20:18] <yeats> GremlynTab: then yes, theoretically, deleting all but /home would do accomplish what you're after
[20:18] <GremlynTab> ok perfect
[20:19] <Lukan27_> !ask Anyone, I can't access my primary HDD through LiveUSB (sudo cd (tree)) returns Permission denied.
[20:19] <un\x> lol
[20:21] <fernando_> Does the lshw command show all the detected hardware or installed hardware?
[20:21] <khusyaini> hi there
[20:22] <Acolyte192> Hi, people. I'd like to ask if anyone has a Modula-2 compiler on their Ubuntu installations.
[20:22] <khusyaini> :)
[20:23] <GremlynTab> Fernando, detected hardware
[20:24] <L3mce> fernando_: detected... lspci displays most of what you want at quick glance, with various options (eg -v -nn)
[20:24] <mirko1> Lukan27_: i didn't read the previous posts. what exactly are you trying to do. from your last post it seems you're trying to access a hdd partition from a livecd, so what's the problem. why did you mount per commandline and not per nautilus (then it shoudl be accessible in /media/{label-or-uuid}.
[20:25] <L3mce> hold on that Lukan27_
[20:25] <L3mce> if you are attempting to fsck you do NOT want to mount it
[20:25] <fernando_> ah ok
[20:25] <L3mce> you will type fdisk -l to identify it
[20:26] <Lukan27_> mirko: Thanks for reply, Ubuntu fucked up (can't boot all of sudden) so wanna save my data, hence LiveUSB, I can see the folder from HDD through CLI, but when acessing it's permission denied.
[20:26] <L3mce> watch language in here
[20:26] <Galvatron> Lukan27_	: Do it as root
[20:26] <bekks> Lukan27_: sudo ls -lha IS accessing the data, and it works, as you told us.
[20:27] <Lukan27_> L3mce: I'm not fsck'ing.
[20:27] <L3mce> then, as you have been trying to mount it, type umount -lf /dev/XXXX... then depending on WHAT its filesys is... you will want to run fsck to recover whatever has been hosed.
[20:27] <Lukan27_> bekks: I saying to you, I can't access my homefolder or anything under it!
[20:28] <L3mce> Lukan27_: the likely problem will be likely solved with fsck... so you probably do
[20:28] <bekks> Lukan27_: sudo ls -lha /the/folder/you/want/to/access
[20:28] <L3mce> but first you need to know WHAT the fs is.
[20:29] <Lukan27_> bekks: Which gave the result I pastebinned'
[20:29] <Lukan27_> L3mce: fsck does not work
[20:29] <L3mce> you must first identify the fs you are trying to fsck
[20:29] <L3mce> and send options.
[20:29] <L3mce> or use e2fsck if it is ext2
[20:30] <starlyle> Wondering if someone could figure out why ubuntu on boot from cd produces this error?  Bug: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer...and ends with udevd [104]: `/sbin/modprobe -bv pci....[174] terminated by signal 9 (killed)  ?  Thanks in advnace.
[20:30] <mirko1> Lukan27_: if you know how to mount an FS per CLI, do unmount it now and use nautilus (simply click on the FS in the Places list) then do what ever yo want to do. otherwise. if you're really sure you know what you are doing run "sudo su -" that will get you a full-blown root shell where you shoudl be able to do almost everything. (not advisable)
[20:30]  * L3mce loves e2fsck
[20:32] <L3mce> It is noteworthy that su does not carry a lot of env vars... as it is sort of a userless super shell
[20:32] <L3mce> well... the user is root obv
[20:32] <Lukan27_> L3mce: btw, LiveUSB fsck says no errors, but running from hdd says there is
[20:32] <unkn-error> hello! What is the name of ati ccc in ubuntu?
[20:32] <mirko1> starlyle: probably a hardware problem (defect or incomptiblity), hard to say without hardware details
[20:33] <L3mce> what is the FS Lukan27_?
[20:33] <L3mce> I was away if you said already
[20:33] <Galvatron> unkn-error: Most likely the same as in Windows
[20:33] <Lukan27_> mirko1: I'm not sure what FS is.
[20:33] <starlyle> thanks mirk01
[20:33] <L3mce> fsck -l will tell you
[20:34] <L3mce> eger
[20:34] <L3mce> no
[20:34] <Lukan27_> L3mce: Been there done that. =)
[20:34] <L3mce> sorry
[20:34] <unkn-error> Galvatron, I can't find it in synaptic, what repro do I need to have enabled? If only "propretary drivers for devices" is enabled, isn't enought?
[20:35] <L3mce> df -T Lukan27_
[20:36] <L3mce> under type
[20:37] <Lukan27_> I'm super root something now, and I'm inside my home folder, but I only see "Access-your-private-data.desktop"
[20:38] <L3mce> Lukan27_: I strongly recommend rebooting to livecd, and typing at terminal: sudo -s; df -T
[20:39] <Galvatron> unkn-error: The package name is fglrx-amdccccle
[20:39] <MordFustang> can anyone tell me how to activate mouse wheel when i push in for scrolling?
[20:39] <L3mce> this will tell you the FS type and based on size you can figure out which is the suspect drive... then you will give fsck.something based on that
[20:39] <unkn-error> Galvatron, Thank you!
[20:39] <mouse_> I updated my system about a week ago and since then the colors for youtube videos have been inverted or something.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[20:40] <Galvatron> mouse_: Updated which to which?
[20:40] <L3mce> mouse_: what are you using to view flash?
[20:40] <Lukan27_> L3mce: I am on liveCD (LiveUSB).. Yes, something comes up. What to look for?
[20:41] <mouse_> Galvatron, Oh sorry it was just updates for 10.04
[20:41] <mouse_> L3mce, Give me a second and let me look
[20:41] <L3mce> Lukan27_: if you type df -T, each avail partition will show up.
[20:41] <L3mce> mouse_: you would have specified it, chances are you are using adobe flash
[20:41] <Lukan27_> M3mce: Yes, it does. =) It's sda1
[20:41] <L3mce> ok.
[20:42] <L3mce> Lukan27_: umount /dev/sda1
[20:42] <L3mce> it probably isnt mounted
[20:42] <L3mce> but lets do it anyway
[20:42] <L3mce> now what does it say under "Type" for sda1
[20:42] <Lukan27_> L3mce: Device is busy
[20:42] <JamesJRH> Any Ubuntu pastebin admins here?
[20:43] <pikkachu> hi, I'm mounting ntfs partitions through udisks but I can't pass mount options of ntfs-3g, any clue?
[20:43] <L3mce> Lukan, I would, were I you, reboot to live.
[20:43] <mirko1> Lukan27_:  do a reboot and try again
[20:43] <Lukan27_> rebooting
[20:43] <Lukan27_> into LiveUSB
[20:44] <L3mce> Lukan27_: once rebooted, get into a terminal, type "sudo -s" without quotes.
[20:45] <L3mce> Lukan27_: then type "df -T" without quotes and tell me what it says about sda1. Presume anything in quotes is to be typed, and done so without the quotes unless otherwise specified
[20:45] <Acolyte192> Can anyone check on a make log I have and see what is wrong with it?
[20:45] <L3mce> pastebin it Acolyte192
[20:46] <Acolyte192> Alright
[20:46] <L3mce> !pastebinit | Acolyte192
[20:46] <mirko1> pikkachu:  from "man udisks": udisks --mount device_file [--mount-fstype fstype] [--mount-options options]
[20:46] <Acolyte192> Woops
[20:47] <Acolyte192> I didn't know that
[20:47] <Acolyte192> I already did it on the site
[20:47] <Acolyte192> Can I just send it to you privately?
[20:47] <guntbert> !enter | Acolyte192
[20:47] <Acolyte192> Sorry. xD
[20:48] <pikkachu> mirko1: try it and see
[20:48] <Lukan27_> L3mce: I can't find sda1 now..
[20:49] <Acolyte192> Some other time, guys. Thanks for your help so far.
[20:49] <L3mce> It is best to keep things in here Acolyte192, for YOUR benefit. If I say something wrong, someone will correct me.
[20:49] <L3mce> Lukan27_: can you pastebin the output of df -T
[20:49] <mirko1> pikkachu: see what? works fine here
[20:51] <Amaya|2> Hello again
[20:51] <Amaya|2> I was wondering if anybody could please tell me how I can put applications on the unity bar?
[20:51] <Amaya|2> Very noob I know
[20:51] <Lukan27_> L3mce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917971/
[20:52] <skel> Amaya|2: for the most part your should be able to drag-n-drop from the applications lens or whatever thats called that pops up
[20:52] <mdk> Amaya ... do you mean onto the launcher, on the left?
[20:52] <yeats> Amaya|2: open the app, then right click on its icon and click "Keep in Launcher"
[20:52] <Amaya|2> mdk: yes
[20:53] <mdk> yeats got it right.
[20:53] <Amaya|2> yeats: thankyou
[20:53] <yeats> Amaya|2: happy to help
[20:53] <Amaya|2> skel: hello again :p
[20:53] <mdk> Open the app first, then you can do it.
[20:53] <skel> Amaya|2: heya :) had to drop off, catch a flight
[20:54] <mdk> Before you choose to "Keep in Launcher," you can also drag the icon around to change the order.
[20:54] <Amaya|2> I see no icon on Terminal
[20:54] <Amaya|2> It's just a box with a gray bar at the top
[20:54] <ikonia> Amaya|2: are you not using backtrack ?
[20:54] <Amaya|2> skel: you've flown in this time? :o
[20:54] <mdk> Well, I guess you can do that even after you choose to Keep in Launcher.
[20:55] <skel> Amaya|2: yeah, Raleight -> ATL. trying to get home to MKE
[20:55] <Amaya|2> ikonia: no, not yet, It's downloaded but I haven't installed it. You were here for the conversation earlier?
[20:55] <mdk> In the Dash, start type "Terminal," and you should see the icon appear.
[20:55] <Lukan27_> L3mce: Anything useful?
[20:55] <ikonia> Amaya|2: yes, apologies, I thought you said you where using backtrack
[20:56] <Amaya|2> ikonia: It's ok, I appreciate you taking notice. I will do it shortly I hope
[20:56] <L3mce> sorry... other support issue... one moment Lukan27_
[20:56] <Amaya|2> Ok, I clicked 'Dash Home', typed in terminal and it came up with two other items
[20:56] <Amaya|2> I right clighted the icon and boom, the dash home shuts down and terminal opens
[20:56] <mdk> Amaya: just choose "Terminal"
[20:57] <Amaya|2> This is why I had to come on chat
[20:57] <pikkachu> mirko1: what ntfs-3g option did you pass?
[20:57] <skel> Amaya|2: once terminal is open you should see an icon in the launch bar now
[20:57] <Amaya|2> no...
[20:57] <TRAVISg> testing download servers takes roughly ...forever
[20:58] <mdk> Do you the terminal open?
[20:58] <Amaya|2> Yes
[20:58] <skel> Amaya|2: hmm fishy
[20:58] <mdk> Do you see an icon for Terminal in the launcher?
[20:58] <Amaya|2> no
[20:58] <pikkachu> hi, I'm mounting ntfs partitions through udisks but I can't pass mount options of ntfs-3g, any clue? --mount-options does not recognize the ntfs-3g options such as hide_hid_files or anything
[20:58] <mdk> Do you see the launcher?
[20:59] <Amaya|2> Yes, if by the vertical bar you mean launcher
[20:59] <mdk> Yep, that's the launcher.  What icons are there?
[21:00]  * tankian que 
[21:00] <skel> pikkachu: I'm not familiar with udisks, did you mean to say udev or is udisks something else?
[21:01] <Amaya|2> Dash home, Home folder, Firefox, Libre Office writer/calc/impress, Ubuntu software centre, Ubuntu one, System settings, (Then there's a gap :\), KVIrc, Workspace Switcher, VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.10_76836
[21:01] <Seryth> Thanks martinp13 :)
[21:01] <skel> Amaya|2: if you go back to the terminal icon in the dash, does it let you click-hold and drag to launcher?
[21:02] <skel> I'm pretty sure thats how I did it when I was using unity
[21:02] <Amaya|2> skel: There's no icon appearing in the launcher whatsoever for Terminal
[21:02] <Amaya|2> i'm going to close the VM
[21:02] <Amaya|2> and reboot
[21:02] <skel> Amaya|2: no I mean where you originally launched terminal from
[21:03] <skel> Amaya|2: can you click-drag it to the launcher?
[21:03] <skel> maybe thats just my setup in gnome3
[21:03] <mdk> Amaya: Very odd.  I've never seen a running program not show up in the launcher.  You should be able to drag it from the Dash to the launcher, too, as skel mentoned.
[21:03] <mirko1> pikkachu: I'm on 10.04, it seems that all options mentioned in  ntfs-3g(1) are passed by the --mount-options option, I don't have any hide_hid_files options. maybe you look at obsolete/future references?
[21:03] <Amaya|2> Yes, I tried that before I came in here. I think that's why there's a gap in the launcher, but because it's so slow on a VM maybe it hasn't displayed properly. I'll see what happens when I boot it back up
[21:04] <mdk> A gap in the launcher?  What happens when you right-click on that gap?
[21:04] <skel> Amaya|2: on your vbox guest, how many cpu's did you specify?
[21:04] <pikkachu> skel: I don't know what you mean, but I mean udisks not something else
[21:05] <skel> pikkachu: ok, sorry. not really familiar with that.
[21:05] <Amaya|2> I left it at the default 512. I tried 1Gb but I kept getting the message for having low memory
[21:05] <pikkachu> mirko1: what option of ntfs-3g you used?
[21:05] <skel> Amaya|2: no, the cpu count, not memory :)
[21:05] <Amaya|2> You mean CPU used?
[21:05] <skel> Amaya|2: I'd set it to 1 if its not already
[21:05] <skel> Amaya|2: no, in virtualbox you can define how many virtual cpu's the guest has
[21:06] <Amaya|2> Yeah it has 1 CPU
[21:06] <skel> Amaya|2: I'm not sure what it does for default if you have multi-core, but there are a lot of issues with context-switching in virtualizing cpus
[21:06] <skel> Amaya|2: ah ok, well there goes that theory :-P
[21:06] <skel> Amaya|2: odd that its going so slow for the specs of your system
[21:07] <Amaya|2> I figured it was slow because I gave it 512 RAM
[21:07] <skel> Amaya|2: ah ok. did you also install vbox guest additions for the video support and local mounting etc?
[21:07] <Amaya|2> I installed the additions, although I don't know what they are
[21:08] <skel> Amaya|2: just additional agents to make integration work better and utilize your 3d graphics card if you have one
[21:08] <Amaya|2> I enabled 3D acceleration
[21:08] <mirko1> pikkachu: for testing I used "udisks --mount /dev/disk/by-label/Data --mount-options ro,umask=007"
[21:08] <Guest58738> Hello! I want to manually add a icon in "installed programs" in unity. The application is installed (python-script) but the Icon to start it is missing. How to add a new icon?
[21:09] <Lukan27_> L3mce: ...
[21:11] <JamesJRH> Where can I find an Ubuntu pastebin admin?
[21:11] <L3mce> Sorry Lukan27_: one moment please
[21:11] <NilBud> msg nickserv identify Falcon1
[21:12] <un\x> ROFL
[21:12] <Chris_0076> lol
[21:13] <L3mce> Lukan27_: parted /dev/sda print all
[21:13] <Amaya|2> skel: may I PM you?
[21:13] <JamesJRH> NilBud: Lol, you might want to change that now.
[21:13]  * L3mce asked what the file type was when it was mounted... for the record... lol
[21:14] <Lukan27_> L3mce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/918001/
[21:15] <Dremples> hi guys, i did a fully encrypted install to usb but i messed something up along the way, when i tried to format the usb to start again, it is only registering 243mb (the size of the boot partition) instead of 4gb, how can i totally wipe this usb device? :s
[21:16] <pikkachu> mirko1: those are not ntfs-3g specific options, so irrelevant
[21:16] <pikkachu> mirko1: you should try some option you are sure to be specific of that tool
[21:17] <moonshield> Hey people
[21:17] <moonshield> How are you all?
[21:17] <syslq> moonshield: :)
[21:17] <moonshield> :)
[21:17] <syslq> So, what's up?
[21:18] <L3mce> Lukan27_: fsck -fyv /dev/sda1
[21:18] <moonshield> Tell my thanks to ikonia and everybody
[21:18] <moonshield> syslq, I successfully anonymized my flash activity
[21:18] <moonshield> its done now.
[21:18] <syslq> Your flash activity?
[21:18] <moonshield> yes
[21:18] <moonshield> Adobe flash was not accepting proxies
[21:18] <syslq> aaah
[21:18] <noel_g> anyone have any ideas why I would not be able to ssh from a windows client using cygwin to ubuntu?  here are the logs from both sides same attempt  Server-> http://pastie.org/3740960  Client->http://pastie.org/3740969
[21:19] <syslq> I dont tuse flash :)
[21:19] <moonshield> and then I routed all network traffic to tor
[21:19] <Lukan27_> L3mce: It's running, I'll report back. =)
[21:19] <syslq> moonshield: doh
[21:19] <moonshield> how do you watch youtube videos then? gnash?
[21:19] <syslq> moonshield: tor is fantastic
[21:19] <moonshield> yes
[21:19] <moonshield> syslq, but another problem rises
[21:19] <syslq> moonshield: nope, I use html5 video
[21:19] <mirko1> pikkachu: 1. the umask option is mentioned in ntfs-3g. 2. there is no hide_hid_files option mentioned in my manpage. 3.) you still didn't tell what th exact error you faced it. 4.) don't demand.
[21:19] <moonshield> syslq, cool
[21:19] <syslq> moonshield: you can set it on youtube and say fuck you flash
[21:19] <Amaya|2> Actualy i'm having trouble using an SSH with Tor
[21:19] <moonshield> syslq, yes
[21:19] <moonshield> syslq, what about the flash based chat sites?
[21:20] <moonshield> syslq, will they work too?
[21:20] <syslq> Nope
[21:20] <syslq> moonshield: but I dont use any
[21:20] <moonshield> haha
[21:20] <moonshield> syslq, can I pm you about tor?
[21:20] <Tm_T> syslq: language, please
[21:21] <Lukan27_> L3mce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/918105/
[21:21] <DPini> Hello
[21:21] <Amaya|2> sysql: may I also PM you about Tor? :D
[21:21] <pikkachu> mirko1: 1. irrelevant, read what I said again
[21:21] <syslq> Tm_T: it's in the dictionary
[21:21] <pikkachu> mirko1: 2. I asked for any specific option
[21:21] <Tm_T> !ohmy > syslq
[21:21] <Lukan27_> L3mce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/918015
[21:21] <DPini> That is the correct channel to ask for a question about certificates? Or I should search for another one?
[21:21] <Tm_T> !guidelines > syslq
[21:21] <shwaiil> Q: I've installed a .deb but I can't find the program i've just installed. What to do ? tks for looking
[21:22] <l3d_> i have messed up and upgraded to 11.10 and dont like the lay of the land is there a way to go back to 10.10 style?
[21:22] <moonshield> Amaya, route all traffic to tor everything will work
[21:22] <syslq> moonshield: sure
[21:22] <syslq> Tm_T: ok
[21:23] <Amaya|2> moonshield: I'm trying to route my traffic through Tor but i'm struggling to get my SSH to work
[21:24] <moonshield> Amaya, https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy
[21:24] <moonshield> Amaya, Do what it says in there
[21:25] <Amaya|2> moonshield: thanks for the link, i'll check it out
[21:25] <moonshield> Amaya, your welcome
[21:26] <DPini> Q: I have installed two certificates from a website. I don't want them now (they seem to have installed more certificates). There is a way to erase all certificates and stay only with the default ones?
[21:27] <Amaya|2> moonshield: I'm not using Tor in Ubuntu, I'm using it on Windows, but I'm trying to get my Ubuntu to access the internet through Tor
[21:28] <zykotick9> shwaiil: the output of "dpkg -L foo_package" might help?
[21:28] <moonshield> Amaya, i have no idea.
[21:28] <Lukan27_> L3mce: So restart now?
[21:28] <mirko1> pikkachu:  no, i'm not wasting my time on people who are unwilling to read/understant what I said and/or refuse to provide answers to back-questions needed to clear the issue. good by.
[21:28] <mkultra_> i just modded my flashlight to make it LED
[21:28] <tankian> que oinda
[21:29] <L3mce> yes Lukan27_: reboot to the HD and see if you can see what you were missing
[21:29] <granty> anyone want to try help me? or give me ideas?
[21:29] <L3mce> sorry for my absence... the natives are complaining about my code and I believe they are on the wrong revision.
[21:30] <DonAllen> hello all, anyone ever have a problem with C:/hosts when using wine?
[21:32] <Lukan27_> L3mce: I owe you, it seems to work now! It still loaded in GRUB, but I'm logged in now. :D
[21:33] <malik_> hi all, i have an NVidia geforce 6600 setup with dual monitors (Dell 2001FP) on ubuntu 10.04. After installing NVidia drivers in different ways illustrated on web i am still unable set the best display resolution on both my monitors. One monitor is on 1600x1200 where as the other one is limited to 1024 x768. Can someone help me please?
[21:35] <tankian> +x
[21:35] <shwaiil> anyone around have kobo touch ereader ?
[21:35] <guntbert> !ask | granty
[21:36] <L3mce> Lukan27_: Glad you are better :)
[21:38] <Lukan27_> If you got paypal, I can send you some buck as gratitude
[21:38] <Lukan27_> L3mce: If you got paypal, I can send you some buck as gratitude
[21:39] <L3mce> no sir. Just happy to help.
[21:39] <zykotick9> !cookie | L3mce
[21:40] <Lukan27_> Ok, karma is on your way then. Thanks. Take care. =)
[21:43]  * L3mce noms karma cookies
[21:44] <L3mce> this chan has saved my butt so many times I owe a bit of relief
[21:44] <luckydog94> hello, I recently started getting messages from "ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com" saying that my post requires moderator approval. However I have only sent 1 thing and that was several months ago.
[21:44] <luckydog94> Anthing i can do to stop it?
[21:44] <azertyu> hello there
[21:46] <azertyu> i have to use this command eraseall /tmp/ocp && cp pkc /tmp/ocp
[21:46] <azertyu> how to run the same command over ssh ?
[21:46] <stevendaniel> XD
[21:47] <azertyu> LLLL
[21:47] <azertyu> how to run the same command over ssh ?
[21:48] <bekks> azertyu: By logging in using ssh, and fire up the same command.
[21:49] <azertyu> will it works ?
[21:49] <bekks> If you do it right, yes.
[21:49] <accipter> azertyu: check man ssh, you can just do ssh user@... command
[21:50] <ZerOut> ho bisogno una mano kernel 3.3.0 drivers invidia ...qualcuno ?
[21:51] <azertyu> -sh: eraseall: not found
[21:51] <luckydog94> I recently started getting emails from "ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com" saying that my message is awaiting mod approval. I haven't sent anything there for months. Anything I can do to stop it?
[21:52] <bekks> azertyu: What do you expect "eraseall" to be?
[21:52] <zykotick9> azertyu: eraseall is not a built in commane (i've never heard of it either...)
[21:53] <mkultra_> it would be rm
[21:53] <mkultra_> rm = remove
[21:53]  * itaylor57 thinks it is an alias
[21:53] <mkultra_> rm -rf $HOME/folder removes everything in "folder"
[21:53] <ZerOut> I need help kernel 3.3.0, not install drivers invidia..thx
[21:54] <mkultra_> im updating right now
[21:55] <Lirth> I'm having some trouble with my USB ports ever once and a while. Either it'll stop working entirely until I unplug and plug in, or the data will be scrambled (my headset's audio gets ruined and I need to reset it). Is there a way to fix this through software (a code to reset the USB ports) or something I need to check out through hardware?
[21:56] <mkultra_> dmesg will probably tell you your overloading your usb ports
[21:56] <mkultra_> drawing too much power to run all the devices
[21:57] <Lirth> mkultra_: so it's because my PSU is too weak?
[21:57] <mkultra_> my ipod will charge like that, but wont sync music to it
[21:57] <mkultra_> nah, it just happens, my keyboard doesnt take much usb power, ipod does, mouse not so much, same for keyboard
[21:58] <mkultra_> a powered usb hub helps if  you do have  that problem
[21:58] <Lirth> mkultra_: I've noticed it on all my devices. My mouse, keyboard, and headset.
[21:59] <mkultra_> older devices tend to draw more power, but stack too much together and it will do it still
[22:00] <DoctorD> when 12.04 will appear ?
[22:00] <DoctorD> i mean..the final version..so may i make the upgrade from 10.04
[22:01] <bekks> DoctorD: Planned to be released at the end of the month, it is ready when it is done.
[22:01] <mkultra_> im running 12.04 beta
[22:01] <mkultra_> it works great some days, buggy others
[22:02] <mkultra_> thats just the way she goes
[22:02] <DoctorD> ok. thx guys
[22:02] <sparkz_> Hi ! I have a sound problem on my new eeepc 1215B, my sound output is automaticaly set to HDMI, how could i change it to speakers ?
[22:02] <DoctorD> from sound preferences
[22:02] <DoctorD> devices
[22:02] <sparkz_> can you give me a command line please ? :)
[22:03] <sparkz_> i'm kinda newb with these things
[22:03] <DoctorD> i mean..Hardware tab from Sound Preference -> up , right at the Sound Icon
[22:03] <Lirth> Ok, so my second question is: How would I get my headset to run in 7.1 mode like it is supposed to? 5.1 is the closest option to it.
[22:03] <sparkz_> thx DoctorD
[22:03] <Lirth> sparkz_: DoctorD is giving you a tip through the GUI.
[22:03] <DoctorD> no problem.
[22:04] <sparkz_> Lirth, yes but i'll try to do with it at first :)
[22:04] <DoctorD> from there you select the device and choose what fits from :Settings for the selected device: ----
[22:04] <DoctorD> at me it's Analog Stereo Duplex
[22:07] <cmon> does anybody know of simple program to save streams (http://www.landsdómur.is/adalmedferd/nr/68) to file, using Ubunt 12.04?
[22:08] <Lirth> DoctorD: I'm  having a similar problem but the option I need (Analog Surround 7.1 + Analog Mono Input) is not displaying. Any idea how I could get it to show all the options?
[22:08] <DoctorD> hm..
[22:08] <DoctorD> are you sure your hardware sound card it's 7.1 ?
[22:08] <DoctorD> @ cmon - try mozilla ? or addons from mozilla ?
[22:08] <Lirth> DoctorD: It's a Razer Megalodon 7.1 device. It has its own sound card. (And my mobo can run 8 channel)
[22:09] <pikkachu> what's the straightforward way to get access to ntfs partitions in ubuntu, is it putting udisks calls in session apps or what?
[22:09] <cmon> @DoctorD thnx, would be nice to have simple termin program though...
[22:09] <bekks> pikkachu: Just mount them using ntfs-3g.
[22:09] <DoctorD> @ cmon - wget ?!
[22:10] <DoctorD> copy-paste link address and "wget" it
[22:10] <cmon> I´ll check it out
[22:10] <DoctorD> lirth @ you have headseats ?!
[22:11] <Lirth> DoctorD: I'm not sure what a headseat is. If you mean headset, then yes. It's quite nice.
[22:11] <pikkachu> bekks: it requires sudo
[22:12] <DoctorD> @ lirth - my bad. headset :). well..what version of ubuntu you have ? i'll check on the web for some results and see what i can find
[22:12] <kahu> I just initiated a dist-upgrade to 12.04 beta and now receive a clear desktop when I log onto any account--no Unity, no icons, no panels.... any suggestion?
[22:12] <Lirth> DoctorD: Ubuntu 11.10
[22:12] <pikkachu> bekks: besides being much harder than udsisks
[22:12] <DoctorD> did you tried : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound ?
[22:14] <Lirth> DoctorD: My problem with it is that when I search for both Ubuntu and the Megalodon, the results for Megalodon (and usually windows) drown it out.
[22:15] <test1> Hi. Which pdf reader plugin do you use in firefox?
[22:16] <DoctorD> test1 - there are a lot of addons.
[22:16] <test1> I need a lightweught & FAST ONE
[22:16] <DoctorD> Lirth - hm...
[22:16] <DoctorD> test1 - adobe
[22:16] <test1> lol possobly not propretary
[22:16] <DoctorD> test1 - i'll tell you in a sec
[22:16] <kahu> test1: Evince works great
[22:16] <davebs> i'm trying to upgrade from lucid to oneric by adding oneric sources and doing a dist-upgrade... is there a way for me to prevent gnome from upgrading to 3?
[22:17] <test1> :O evince works in-the-browser?
[22:17] <bekks> davebs: No. Gnome 2 is dead.
[22:17] <DoctorD> Lirth - well..i see some people had same problem like you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591152
[22:17] <davebs> bekks, primarily i'm just trying to get python2.7, everything else works just fine
[22:18] <kahu> I have been able to get evince and okular to work within the browser with mozplugger
[22:18] <davebs> and i really want to stick w/ current version of gnome, but i guess many of the oneric packages rely on gnome3?
[22:18] <test1> just wanna know what you use :)
[22:18] <test1> kahu: ohh mozplugger
[22:19] <DoctorD> - Lirth - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure /  maybe this stuff can help you. ask in Ubuntu Forums.ORG - someone with same problem will manage to answer you more clearly
[22:19] <kahu> test1: check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26796/how-to-embed-evince-in-firefox-4 you need to modify mozplugger for it to fully work with PDFs I've found
[22:19] <MrBusiness> Did the syntax or semantics of gcc/g++ change with the switch to Multi-arch? I've noticed lately that I've had troubles linking some relatively obscure packages, and usually the solution to these troubles has been moving my -L and -l options to gcc commands to the end of the command instead of the middle. I don't recall ever having to do that until very recently, and some of the Makefiles I've had to alter were generated by Autotools, which would lead
[22:19] <MrBusiness> me to believe that they ought to be correct.
[22:19] <ampharos> How can I mount a "dirty" NTFS disk in Ubuntu? Windows doesn't boot, so I can't chkdsk it
[22:19] <kahu> test1: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EvinceMozilla
[22:19] <bekks> ampharos: Basically, you cant.
[22:19] <MrBusiness> ampharos, does it not want to mount?
[22:20] <test1> mmh ok thanks kahu
[22:20] <kahu> test1: make sure you restart fully after adjusting the config
[22:20] <test1> ok
[22:20] <ampharos> Linux doesn't mount dirty disks
[22:21] <MrBusiness> Also, if this isn't the best place to ask Ubuntu gcc/g++ questions, which location would be the best?
[22:21] <DoctorD> just clean ones :))
[22:22] <DoctorD> i don't even know what pdf reader i have on chrome :))
[22:22] <DoctorD> shame on me
[22:22] <mirko1> ampharos: try sudo ntfsmount -o force DEVICE /mnt/
[22:23] <kahu> DoctorD: chrome as a built-in PDF reader!
[22:23] <zykotick9> davebs: if you want gnome2 & ubuntu - stick with Lucid...
[22:23] <DoctorD> kahu - thanks. makes me feel much better :D
[22:23] <kahu> :D
[22:25] <KM0201> davebs: or embrace the horror, gnome 2.x is  comign to an end, and learn a new GUI
[22:25] <mirko1> MrBusiness: some gcc group ;-) but what's your question anyway?
[22:25] <MrBusiness> Well, it was a ways up
[22:26] <MrBusiness> But I can repeat it
[22:26] <MrBusiness> I'm having troubles, and only having these specific troubles lately
[22:26] <MrBusiness> I'll compile a package
[22:26] <carwash> anyone here know how to open ports via ssh on a comcast smc networks router
[22:26] <MrBusiness> and it will fail to link
[22:26] <MrBusiness> The problem with this is that I am completely certain that the .so files are visible to my ld
[22:26] <itaylor57> KM0201, ohh the horror lol
[22:26] <KM0201> carwash: opening ports is something you do on your router.
[22:26] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol
[22:27] <MrBusiness> In fact, I can even "fix" the problem, but I don't understand the solution
[22:27] <carwash> correct, i can ssh into it
[22:27] <davebs> KM0201, yeah, i'm really just not a fan of 3, xfce is ok, also don't want to reconfigure everything but just want python 2.7 rather than 2.6 and some later versions of other software
[22:27] <MrBusiness> nor do I understand why I've never encountered the problem before
[22:27] <davebs> oh well
[22:27] <KM0201> davebs: lxde!
[22:27] <danielcg25> Be aware; the user "illwill" is an asshat.
[22:27] <danielcg25> Just a warning.
[22:27] <MrBusiness> the solution, as insane as it seems to me, is that typically I have to go into my Makefile and move the -l and -L commands from roughly the beginning or end of the gcc command over to the end of the command
[22:28] <MrBusiness> To give you an idea, here's a diff from one such Makefile
[22:28] <KM0201> danielcg25: he's not even here..lol
[22:28] <MrBusiness> < 	@${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${LDFLAGS} ${SRC} -o ${BIN}
[22:28] <MrBusiness> ---
[22:28] <MrBusiness> > 	@${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${SRC} -o ${BIN} ${LDFLAGS}
[22:28] <FloodBot1> MrBusiness: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <DoctorD> MrBusiness @ pastebin.com :)
[22:28] <mirko1> MrBusiness: *what* problem, what error message? what package (and please try to keep your reply in on or two lines)
[22:29] <MrBusiness> The error message will be one of ld's "symbol not found" error messages for entire libraries-worth of functions. However, moving the ld flags to the end of the compile statement fixes these.
[22:30] <MrBusiness> At which point the compile and link will proceed as expected
[22:30] <danielcg25> KM0201: I know, but he found my complete legal name through some exploit in my java installation because I asked a question in #backtrack-linux
[22:30] <danielcg25> Everyone, update your java. There is an important security update.'
[22:30] <pikkachu> how to hide ntfs hidden files when mounting such partitions? hide_hid_files option from ntfs-3g doesn't work with udisks and ntfs-3g itself requires sudo password typing which is a non-go at initialization (yes, udisks was added to session apps)
[22:30] <danielcg25> KM0201: And then he published it in the channel.
[22:30] <KM0201> danielcg25: what versio of java did he exploit?
[22:31] <KM0201> danielcg25: considering what many use backtrack for.... maybe you got your due rewards?
[22:33] <zykotick9> KM0201: +1
[22:33] <danielcg25> KM0201: I don't know, I asked a question and he's like Hi <my full legal name>
[22:33] <danielcg25> But there was an update when I just checked.
[22:34] <KM0201> how do you know he got it from java?  and two, are you using an IRC client, or a web client?
[22:34] <bekks> And which java version is in question? :)
[22:34] <mirko1> MrBusiness: it seems as you trying to link to a library you don't intent to (like a system-default  lib instead of a custom one). really hard to say without the *EXACT* error massage (pastebin)
[22:34] <test1> kahu: really nice! ---> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/istantanea-07042012-003214.php
[22:34] <KM0201> bekks: exactly.
[22:35] <test1> and fast
[22:35] <Viking667> quick question with 11.10 and classic gnome (running Metacity). How do I force a new app window to appear on the second monitor of a two-monitor setup?
[22:35] <MrBusiness> ok, let me try this tty-clock compile real quick.
[22:36] <Viking667> MrBusiness: lol. You using a modified porgram from the Obfuscated C contest?
[22:36] <Viking667> s/por/pro/
[22:38] <mobilenoob11> Whats the best way to keep files encrypted on a usb key? Is it better to use ecrypt or ssh? I have the private folder set up on ubuntu, but I would like to be able to take files to another computer.
[22:38] <metasansana> is the 12.04 kernel different than a generic kernel?
[22:38] <danielcg25> mobilenoob11: I use an encrypted .sparsebundle.
[22:39] <mobilenoob11> hmm, haven heard of that.
[22:39] <Viking667> come to think of it, does tar support tarball encryption at all?
[22:39] <mobilenoob11> the private folder in ubuntu uses ecrypt?
[22:39] <bekks> Viking667: No.
[22:40] <bencc> is there a vnc server installed on 11.10 desktop by default?
[22:40] <DoctorD> i have a question related to encrypt
[22:40] <Viking667> sigh. So much for that idea then. I won't suggest zip, that's apparently been busted, though I can't confirm that
[22:40] <DoctorD> on windows you can install PGP Symantec. What alternative i can have on ubuntu ?
[22:40] <Viking667> that is, the encryption's been busted.
[22:40] <Viking667> DoctorD: gpg, I think.
[22:41] <mirko1> mobilenoob11: you won't like my answer^^ , but anyway. forget that. encrypt risky files/directories using gpg (or rar for simplicity)
[22:41] <Viking667> It's console only, i don't know of a GUI front end.
[22:41] <DoctorD> haha
[22:41] <DoctorD> good one :)
[22:41] <DoctorD> i will study it. thx
[22:42] <mobilenoob11> is gpg command line, and does it mount the file system?
[22:42] <Viking667> so, no answer to my metacity question then?
[22:43] <MrBusiness> Ok, I'm preparing a pastebin to illustrate the issue, but it's going to be reasonably long
[22:43] <MrBusiness> had to add a few clarifications here and there
[22:43] <Viking667> mobilenoob11: gpg is commandline, you encrypt files with it. I've no idea about encrypting file systems. I think ecrypt is used for that.
[22:43] <bekks> mobilenoob11: Yes. No.
[22:43] <DoctorD> Viking667 - can you encrypt the hole HDD ?
[22:44] <mobilenoob11> So gpg is better than ecrypt for files on usb key?
[22:44] <bekks> mobilenoob11: Depends on the number of files.
[22:45] <Unguided> Hello all. Im hoping someone can help me out. I am looking to get freenas functionality out of ubuntu. I am speaking of the zfs capabilities. Ant suggestions? Thanks in advance
[22:45] <palm33r> quit
[22:45] <mobilenoob11> Thanks guys! Does anyone have anything to add to the gpg/ecrypt thing?
[22:45] <bekks> Unguided: ZFS on linux is userland, so the performance is _poor_ and you dont have all cpapbilities compared with a native ZFS.
[22:45] <OerHeks> !zfs
[22:46] <Unguided> bekks: Anything other than zfs native to ubuntu I can use?
[22:46] <mirko1> you can of course envrypt a whole disk, see truecrypt
[22:47] <MrBusiness> Ok, here is the basic flow of my linkage/Makefile problem mirko1 http://pastebin.com/P87BitC2
[22:47] <bekks> Unguided: You can use an OS that supports ZFS out of the box, like Solaris or BSD. Personally, I'd consider anything else as a hack more or less.
[22:48] <chully> Any help with gcc, pkg-config, and ld?
[22:48] <Unguided> bekks: Thats what I was afraid of.
[22:48] <MrBusiness> chully, perhaps
[22:48] <chully> $ gcc -ggdb `pkg-config --cflags opencv` -L/usr/lib `pkg-config --libs opencv` -o mytest edge.c
[22:48] <chully> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/lib/libopencv_contrib.so.2.3.1
[22:48] <chully> etc etc
[22:48] <MrBusiness> ah, chully
[22:48] <MrBusiness> I think I see your problem
[22:48] <chully> oh? :)
[22:48] <MrBusiness> I notice that that -l you mentioned
[22:48] <MrBusiness> it wasn't in the first command
[22:49] <MrBusiness> was that an intentional omission?
[22:49] <MrBusiness> secondarily, the form of the -l seems to be incorrect
[22:49] <chully> pkg-config --libs opencv givea bunch of output
[22:49] <chully> like -l/usr/lib/libopencv_contrib.so.2.3.1 -l/usr/lib/libopencv_legacy.so.2.3.1 etc etc
[22:49] <MrBusiness> oh, I see, sorry
[22:49] <MrBusiness> hmm
[22:49] <MrBusiness> I sort of wonder if that's the ld option you want
[22:50] <MrBusiness> that form of -l looks wrong to me
[22:50] <MrBusiness> I would think it would look more like
[22:50] <MrBusiness> -lopencv_contrib
[22:50] <MrBusiness> and -lopencv_legacy
[22:50] <chully> i agree!
[22:50] <chully> so hmm
[22:50] <MrBusiness> yeah, I'm not sure I can offer any real help then. my apologies. I'm not too familiar with linking using pkgconfig substitution.
[22:51] <Unguided> bekks: What about lvm?
[22:51] <bekks> Unguided: Works. :)
[22:51] <chully> i wonder how do i make pkg-config behave
[22:51] <chully> ty MrBusiness
[22:51] <bekks> Unguided: Totally unrelated to what ZFS is :)
[22:51] <MrBusiness> chully, perhaps you might have some insight on an ld problem I've been having
[22:52] <chully> heh
[22:52] <MrBusiness> http://pastebin.com/P87BitC2 <- this provides a relatively lengthy overview
[22:52] <Unguided> bekks: i realize it is not a file system but I understand that you can take snapshots
[22:52] <MrBusiness> essentially, I have had a problem, of late, where the position of my LD arguments to a gcc command seems to make the difference between successful and unsuccessful linkage, and I can't figure out what's up with that
[22:52] <bekks> Unguided: yes.
[22:53] <nick> ytes.net
[22:53] <Unguided> bekks: I just need to find out what i can do with lvm. Can you give me an opinion on zentyal as a home solution?
[22:53] <bekks> Unguided: I have no clue what "zentyal" is meant to be.
[22:53] <chully> wow, that's crazy.
[22:54] <chully> unfortunately I can't shed any light either
[22:54] <Unguided> bekks: A windows small business server replacement. www.zentyal.org
[22:54] <bekks> Unguided: Never heard of it.
[22:56] <mirko1> MrBusiness: you're sure to have a fitting (n)curses version installed?
[22:56] <MrBusiness> I am
[22:56] <MrBusiness> because, as indicated at the bottom of the paste
[22:56] <indy__> hello everybody. My old aspire 1300 xv does not boot anymore Lucid Lynx: I have initramfs, no usb boot and no free CDs to burn a live distribution
[22:56] <indy__> how can I fsck my root partition?
[22:56] <MrBusiness> the compile worked and the binary executed successfully when I moved the LDFLAGS
[22:57] <MrBusiness> that's the only necessary step
[22:57] <Unguided> bekks: Does LVM have its own webapge like samba does? If so I have not been successful on finding it. Can you help me out please?
[22:57] <MrBusiness> /usr/include/ncurses.h exists, and using a -I/usr/include/ option to the GCC statement without moving the LDFLAGS variable makes no difference. That still fails with the linkage errors from the pastebin.
[22:57] <MrBusiness> So I am stumped
[22:57] <bekks> Unguided: No, it hasnt, since it is deeply integrated into the kernel for ages now.
[22:58] <MrBusiness> I feel as if this may be something that crept in with Multi-arch support, but I cannot prove it.
[22:58] <Unguided> bekks: Ok. thanks so much for your help.
[22:59] <Unguided> bekks: any suggestions on a windows home server replacement?
[22:59] <bekks> Unguided: No, since I do not use Windows.
[23:00] <Unguided> bekks: Ok. Thanks again for your help.
[23:00] <trism> MrBusiness: you need to specify the -llibrary arguments after the code files that reference them (that's why autotools has LDADD as well as LDFLAGS). it used to work previously (before oneiric) but only indirectly, the linker is more strict now
[23:01] <trism> MrBusiness: see for reference: http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking
[23:02] <wesley__> ola pessoal
[23:02] <mirko1> MrBusiness: sorry, you've mentioned multi-arch and I'm out!  :) in my very personel experiences : multi-arch is dancing on a glowing wire with tnt in one hand and a lighter in the other hand, ;-)
[23:03] <MrBusiness> ah
[23:03] <timothy> xchat hasthe ability to load history now?
[23:03] <MrBusiness> then perhaps I've hit upon part of the problem
[23:03] <MrBusiness> trism
[23:03] <MrBusiness> you are my hero
[23:03] <timothy> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel!
[23:04] <MrBusiness> I will carve a stone shrine in your image and leave daily offerings
[23:04] <timothy> is mark shuttleworth ever on?
[23:04] <Viking667> What? On IRC? No idea.
[23:11] <jblp> hmm
[23:12] <Marezz> Can I haz wobbleh windoze?
[23:13] <mirko1> Marezz: noh candf hazz thatt on wündos (SCNR)
[23:17] <KM0201> !shuttleworth
[23:17] <KM0201> i imagine he has an incognito name here as well.
[23:20] <mirko1> KM0201: *very* unlikely (and that's good so, he should  spend his time on more important things than on user-support, even if that fails IMHO)
[23:21] <KM0201> mirko1: nobody says he has to come here for user support... he could be coming here just to "eavesdrop" (on the ops, etc..)... i bet he's here and we don't know about it sometimes
[23:23] <buckv> hello folks is it possible to create local functions in bash?
[23:24] <bekks> sure
[23:24] <buckv> how?
[23:24] <hugh_> hello folks.  can anyone tell me what the kernel map is for and where it comes from?  what generates it??
[23:24] <bekks> buckv: function nice_one { ... }
[23:24] <buckv> but that is global?
[23:24] <timothy> hey guys
[23:24] <timothy> how do i create a partition
[23:24] <buckv> bekks: is not that global?
[23:25] <mirko1> KM0201: same sort of wish-thinking that's behing "hey, I bet my local governor listens to this channel" :-) get rif of that one-person thinking. mark is not linux. he even isn't ubuntu :-)
[23:25] <timothy> on ubuntu
[23:25] <bekks> buckv: It is global to the scope of the script that implements it.
[23:25] <KM0201> mirko1: i never suggest he was.. i think you're overthinking my comment
[23:25] <KM0201> i'm not "wishthinking" anything
[23:26] <timothy> with gparted
[23:26] <timothy> theres no way to make a new partition
[23:26] <timothy> how do i make one???!!!!
[23:26] <jen> um how do I do a folder share for virtualbox and ubuntu?
[23:27] <timothy> jen you r a faggot
[23:27] <buckv> bekks: aehm local was not the right term then
[23:27] <KM0201> timothy: what do you mean there's "no way to partition a drive?"
[23:27] <Guest9355> a question about 10.04 netbook edition if I may
[23:28] <yeats> Guest9355: you may - please ask ;-)
[23:28] <KM0201> timothy: why did you say that?
[23:28] <Guest9355> I got an acer one 2008 how can I make it going faster
[23:28] <buckv> bekks: i wanna declare this function in my bashrc file. it is to be accesible only in that file and not from the shell
[23:28] <timothy> @km8201 when i right click my main drive i cant make a new partition
[23:28] <bekks> buckv: Then just try it.
[23:29] <KM0201> timothy: i mean, why is jen a faggot?
[23:29] <timothy> i was annoyed
[23:29] <timothy> at
[23:29] <fosburg> need some info on backing up 'thunderbird' email
[23:29] <buckv> it is accesible from the shell. i have already tried that.
[23:29] <timothy> the way
[23:29] <timothy> ubuntu works
[23:29] <FloodBot1> timothy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Guest9355> can I stop the OS to switch app by itself
[23:29] <Guest9355> ?
[23:29] <bekks> Guest9355: ??
[23:29] <timothy> lol floodbot?
[23:30] <KM0201> fosburg: just backup /home/username/.thunderbird    that will save all your settings, etc.
[23:30] <buckv> external scripts can't mess with it though, and that is nice
[23:32] <Lirth> After lots of messing around, I've run into problems with my headset. I can't seem to talk through skype but it does recognize it when I mess with the recording.
[23:32] <fosburg> thanks
[23:33] <Guest9355> all right food for tought
[23:35] <wellsfargo> Can someone help me properly partition my harddrive so i can install windows
[23:35] <psycho_oreos> !windows| wellsfargo
[23:35] <wellsfargo> (dual-boot)
[23:36] <wellsfargo> its not a discussion
[23:36] <bananapie> my wife wants me to put together a nice looking flyer. What is the best software on ubuntu for this kind of work ( considering I suck at this kind of work )
[23:37] <hugh_> where can i get hold of init for a boot/root floppy i'm building??
[23:37] <hugh_> can't find it to download
[23:42] <myhero> are anti-virus anti-malware n other necessary or ubuntu ???
[23:43] <myhero> for ubuntu ?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> !virus | myhero
[23:43] <KM0201> did it finish extracting?
[23:46] <myhero> i hve a dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu....the windows drive is shown in ubuntu but the ubuntu partition is not being showed in windows....?
[23:46] <bekks> myhero: Because Windows cant mount Linux filesystems.
[23:46] <myhero> so any way round to look at the ubuntu partition in windows ?
[23:47] <bkerensa> myhero: Windows cannot read ext4 filesystems while Linux can read FAT and NTFS
[23:47] <Squid_Tamer> I've heard that it's possible to install software on Windows that will let you read it
[23:47] <bkerensa> myhero: no
[23:47] <bekks> myhero: "No."
[23:47] <myhero> kk
[23:47] <myhero> what about anti-virus anti-malware n others on ubuntu ?
[23:47] <bekks> myhero: Has been answered already.
[23:47] <myhero> yes
[23:48] <myhero> but still....
[23:48] <myhero> i have doubts
[23:48] <bekks> Then please read the link you've been given.
[23:48] <myhero> the page suggested says mostly its not needed but at the same time says it has uses on ubuntu...!!!
[23:49] <Squid_Tamer> Just in case you'll be sharing files with windows, you don't want the WINDOWS side to get a virus :D
[23:49] <bekks> myhero: And thats the truth.
[23:49] <Squid_Tamer> So some people install antivirus to prevent that
[23:49] <myhero> i hve dual boot win7 and ubuntu system then in that case whats best....2 hve or not to have ?
[23:50] <Squid_Tamer> Well, since windows can't read the linux side anyway, I wouldn't worry
[23:50] <bekks> myhero: see above :)
[23:50] <Squid_Tamer> I don't use it
[23:50] <bitbuzzer> hi, I'm trying to set up sftp and getting the following message when in the sftp user's home dir:  -bash :cd .ssh Permission denied
[23:50] <bitbuzzer> kind of a newb with server admin, any help?
[23:50] <myhero> k then i'll not hve it on ubuntu....
[23:51] <bekks> bitbuzzer: Then the user you are logged via sftp has no permissions to access that particular directory.
[23:51] <myhero> whats about the updates in ubuntu....its showing 393 updates..should all b installed ?
[23:51] <Squid_Tamer> myhero: Yeah, it'd be best
[23:51] <bekks> Yes.
[23:51] <_ProGammer> hi
[23:51] <_ProGammer> is there any libkvm for ubuntu(im using 10.10) ?
[23:52] <Squid_Tamer> myhero: Just best to keep things new and shiny. That's part of the reason you don't need an antivirus, if a hole is found it's patched very quickly in those updates
[23:52] <myhero> means for a noob will it matter....coz it looks like it contains many developer things also...?
[23:52] <bekks> _ProGammer: See http://packages.ubuntu.com please
[23:52] <bekks> _ProGammer: And 10.10 will have its end of support in a few days.
[23:52] <playx> can i simulate a 1280x720 screen on a 1280x1024 monotor?
[23:52] <myhero> kk squid...)
[23:52] <bekks> myhero: Just install the updates.
[23:52] <myhero> :)
[23:53] <_ProGammer> bekks: ok thanks
[23:53] <myhero> kk
[23:54] <Ace> anyone else have problems downloading google-talkplugin?
[23:54] <myhero> some msgs on my side specially mentioned to me are in yellow and other are in white...which command to use so as to specifically highlight the msg to any given user...?
[23:54] <Squid_Tamer> Ace: I have in the past, they went away though...
[23:54] <ubuntos> Hi, I have a problem joining windows adhoc networks : network-manager shows the name of the adhoc wifi but when I click nothing happens. Any idea ?!
[23:55] <myhero> are u using Broadcom wi-i card ?
[23:55] <myhero> if yes then its the case of broadcom card coz it has issues with ubuntu....!!!
[23:55] <ubuntos> how can I know ? command ?
[23:56] <myhero> i mayb lshw
[23:56] <myhero> i dont know exactly but mayb lshw
[23:56] <myhero> in terminal
[23:56] <myhero> or u can open the back case n look for the card
[23:58] <ubuntos> myhero, I believe the problem has nothing to do with my wifi card coz I try to connect with a usb dongle but I experience the same problem
[23:58] <bekks> myhero: all my broadcom cards work out of the box here.
[23:59] <myhero> then it might b with the modem router
[23:59] <bekks> It isnt.
[23:59] <myhero> i hve issues with 3 broadcom wifi cards in 3 dif lappys