| astraljava | Unit193: I will check later today, might need some sleep before that. | 03:54 |
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| Unit193 | Could be just me. | 03:55 |
| knome | micahg, as there any uploads pending? | 06:24 |
| knome | mr_pouit, ^ | 06:24 |
| ochosi | micahg,pleia2: nope, in Gtk3 the resize-grip can be activated globally in the gtk-theme | 06:35 |
| ochosi | micahg,pleia2: from gtk2 it was dropped, so it's only in apps that set it themselves | 06:35 |
| ochosi | pleia2: thanks for reading through! yes, screenshots would be good for pretty much every method. i just put this draft together yesterday because i suddenly felt motivated and wanted to get things going :) | 06:36 |
| knome | ochosi, btw, you can't add screenshots yourself to the blog.. | 06:44 |
| ochosi | knome: oh, is that a limitation of the contributor-mode? | 06:44 |
| knome | yeah, that's the unfortunate side-effect :/ | 06:44 |
| ochosi | hmm | 06:44 |
| ochosi | ok | 06:44 |
| knome | i could just approve you to the website team though | 06:45 |
| ochosi | well, we can test this for a while like this | 06:45 |
| knome | k | 06:45 |
| ochosi | but since my posts will mostly be artwork, they will most likely contain screenshots or pics | 06:45 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 06:45 |
| ochosi | but for now we can leave it as is | 06:45 |
| knome | ok, works for me | 06:45 |
| ochosi | then at least i'm forced to let you review :) | 06:45 |
| knome | i'm going to be off from about 13utc today till 10utc sunday | 06:46 |
| ochosi | btw, i guess i have to rewrite parts, if pleia2 had a hard time understanding it, then i probably wrote gibberish | 06:46 |
| ochosi | mkay, yeah, i'll also be away over the weekend | 06:46 |
| knome | hihi | 06:46 |
| knome | i can review now if you want | 06:46 |
| ochosi | although only from tomorrow till sunday evening | 06:46 |
| ochosi | yeah, please | 06:46 |
| knome | do you mind if i just edit it? | 06:47 |
| ochosi | nope | 06:48 |
| knome | ok | 06:48 |
| ochosi | as long as you don't change the meaning of things too much | 06:48 |
| knome | hehe, won't | 06:48 |
| ochosi | knome: could you also check whether the keyboard-shortcut is right? | 06:53 |
| ochosi | (i mean alt+f11) | 06:53 |
| ochosi | i think i changed it on my system | 06:53 |
| knome | i can, after i've gone through the article :) | 06:53 |
| ochosi | ah, it's alt+f8 | 06:56 |
| ochosi | at least on my gf's laptop and i think i didn't change it here | 06:56 |
| ochosi | knome: please verify that on your system and then change that as well in the article ^ | 06:57 |
| knome | hehe | 06:57 |
| knome | well i'm on an updated system | 06:57 |
| knome | i probably should check this from the spec ;) | 06:58 |
| ochosi | ok | 06:58 |
| ochosi | brb | 06:58 |
| ochosi | or: bbiab | 06:58 |
| knome | ok ok | 06:58 |
| knome | ;) | 06:58 |
| knome | ochosi, ehm, we deleted the resize-window shortcut! | 06:59 |
| knome | but i'm in favor of the mouse-methods anyway | 07:00 |
| knome | saved new version @ xubuntu.org | 07:01 |
| micahg | knome: not planning any for xubuntu until next week | 07:01 |
| knome | micahg, ok :) | 07:01 |
| micahg | ochosi: there were resize distro patches that were dropped, idk if that was for GTK2 or 3 | 07:02 |
| ochosi | knome: why did we delete that shortcut? | 07:15 |
| ochosi | knome: ok, updated the post according to that | 07:23 |
| knome | dunno, maybe because we thought it was redundant | 07:49 |
| knome | and because people can always readd it | 07:49 |
| ochosi | hmm :/ | 07:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, i put that in the article | 07:49 |
| ochosi | it's fine as well | 07:50 |
| knome | and there's the window menu | 07:50 |
| ochosi | good point | 07:50 |
| ochosi | yet another method | 07:50 |
| knome | which has the resize-link | 07:50 |
| ochosi | mind adding a paragraph about that? | 07:50 |
| knome | i don't know how to open that :D | 07:51 |
| knome | i think i have somewhat messed up shortcuts | 07:51 |
| ochosi | you can set a shortcut for opening the window-menu | 07:53 |
| ochosi | but, you can also use the menu-button (downward-pointing arrow in the left-top-corner of the window) | 07:53 |
| ochosi | or simply right-click the window-titlebar | 07:54 |
| knome | that's right :P | 08:01 |
| knome | i was looking for the menu icon, but i don't have that | 08:01 |
| ochosi | you must've removed it, it should be there by default | 08:02 |
| mr_pouit | o hai | 08:33 |
| mr_pouit | no upload pending, although a new one for xubuntu-artwork might be needed, there's a missing icon in simple-scan according to a bug report | 08:33 |
| mr_pouit | knome: ^ | 08:33 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: where's that bugreport? | 08:35 |
| knome | mr_pouit, in the app menu? i have that icon | 08:36 |
| knome | also, in the interface, i don't see missing icons | 08:36 |
| ochosi | ah i see the br now | 08:37 |
| knome | br ? | 08:37 |
| ochosi | bugreport :) | 08:37 |
| knome | heh | 08:37 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly test this in my oneiric install | 08:37 |
| * knome checked in precise | 08:38 | |
| ochosi | oh, ok | 08:38 |
| ochosi | then i'll spare myself the reboot for now | 08:39 |
| knome | heh | 08:39 |
| knome | yeah, i upgraded to precise not a long time ago | 08:39 |
| mr_pouit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/974549 | 08:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 974549 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Simple Scan application menu missing icon" [Undecided,New] | 08:44 |
| knome | nope, shows a stamp-icon for me | 08:46 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll check it... | 08:47 |
| knome | 20120228 | 08:47 |
| knome | that's the installtion media | 08:47 |
| knome | (his) | 08:47 |
| ochosi | hmm, i can confirm the bug :( | 08:50 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04062012-105046am.php | 08:50 |
| mr_pouit | if you don't want people to send photos by mail, it's a proper icon though | 08:51 |
| mr_pouit | (: | 08:51 |
| ochosi | heh | 08:51 |
| ochosi | btw, i just realized there might be a tiny glitch in greybird-gtk3 :/ | 08:52 |
| ochosi | the radio-buttons in menuitems have dark fg | 08:52 |
| mr_pouit | screenshots before/after? | 08:53 |
| ochosi | look at "photo": http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04062012-105305am.php | 08:53 |
| ochosi | before/after what? | 08:53 |
| mr_pouit | it's still posible to upload if it's critical | 08:53 |
| mr_pouit | before/after your fix :P | 08:53 |
| ochosi | oh .) | 08:53 |
| ochosi | hehe | 08:53 |
| ochosi | one sec, i think i can really fix that straight away | 08:53 |
| mr_pouit | but otherwise it'll go to precise-proposed | 08:54 |
| ochosi | it's hopefully trivial | 08:55 |
| ochosi | it just seems that simplescan is the only gtk3 app i have with radios | 08:56 |
| ochosi | checks look ok | 08:56 |
| knome | ;) | 08:56 |
| ochosi | odd, they look ok in gedit | 08:57 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04062012-105901am.php | 08:59 |
| ochosi | time for a quick reboot | 09:00 |
| ochosi | brb | 09:00 |
| ochosi | re | 09:03 |
| ochosi | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~simple-scan-team/simple-scan/trunk/view/head:/data/simple-scan.ui#L124 | 09:06 |
| ochosi | use_stock > False :( | 09:07 |
| ochosi | ok, fixed it | 09:12 |
| ochosi | i'll push the fix to git in a minute | 09:12 |
| ochosi | very weird | 09:15 |
| ochosi | it seems ambiance works around that radio-button glitch by using bright submenus | 09:15 |
| ochosi | imo that looks terrible: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04062012-111533am.php | 09:15 |
| knome | huh | 09:16 |
| knome | yeah | 09:16 |
| ochosi | i think we're better off with what we have atm | 09:16 |
| ochosi | wth, when changing the theme (with simplescan running) from Greybird to greybird (the second is a symlink to the first) the radiobuttons are ok | 09:18 |
| knome | haha | 09:18 |
| ochosi | and they're also ok when changing back to Greybird | 09:18 |
| ochosi | i have no clue what is not working there | 09:19 |
| ochosi | probably a bug in gtk3 | 09:19 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: btw, if stupid simplescan would use the stock "document-send" icon, we would have no problem whatsoever (that one is contained in the gnome-icon-theme), but they chose to use "mail-send" instead | 09:21 |
| knome | ochosi, how do i have the correct icon then? | 09:22 |
| ochosi | i'm suspecting that the gnome-icon theme was slimmed down | 09:23 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 09:23 |
| knome | but i'm using precise... | 09:23 |
| ochosi | can you check what's inside of /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/actions ? | 09:24 |
| knome | let me upgrade all packages so they are surely the latest | 09:24 |
| ochosi | no, wait | 09:25 |
| ochosi | tell me what you have there now | 09:25 |
| knome | oh | 09:25 |
| knome | mail-send.png exists | 09:25 |
| ochosi | just to check whether anything else critical got removed | 09:25 |
| ochosi | gah | 09:25 |
| knome | oh well | 09:25 |
| ochosi | so they dropped it | 09:25 |
| ochosi | bastards | 09:25 |
| knome | i'm already upgrading :P | 09:25 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-04062012-112552am.php | 09:25 |
| ochosi | this is the content of the directory for me | 09:26 |
| knome | there's 355 items for me | 09:26 |
| ochosi | do you have gnome-icon-theme-full installed? | 09:26 |
| ochosi | (because we dropped that one) | 09:26 |
| knome | let me check | 09:26 |
| knome | i have, for some reason | 09:27 |
| knome | when is that dropped? | 09:27 |
| ochosi | ok, we don't install that by default anymore | 09:27 |
| knome | like, yesterday? | 09:27 |
| knome | oh right, i'm upgrading | 09:27 |
| knome | gigi | 09:27 |
| ochosi | that is the whole point of having elementary-xfce as a fork | 09:27 |
| knome | *hihi | 09:27 |
| knome | :) | 09:27 |
| knome | yup.. | 09:27 |
| ochosi | anyway, it's possible that other icons are missing if people decide to install something that doesn't follow any standards but is contained in the gnome-icon-theme-full, but i think we shouldn't care too much about that | 09:29 |
| ochosi | brb | 09:30 |
| knome | mm | 09:31 |
| ochosi | knome: mind to ask sean davis to join the testing team? (the guy reported really a lot of bugs lately, all of them meaningful) | 09:34 |
| ochosi | ok, i'm off for now, bbal (be back after lunch) | 09:44 |
| knome | mr_pouit, bug 875991 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 875991 in lxdm (Ubuntu) "Not able to start a xsession with a space in the name" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875991 | 10:55 |
| knome | mr_pouit, i know the bug is in lxdm, but.. | 10:56 |
| knome | mr_pouit, i suppose it's not without problems if we rename though? | 10:56 |
| mr_pouit | it's ugly | 11:21 |
| knome | lxdm you mean? | 11:22 |
| knome | or non-space session name? | 11:22 |
| mr_pouit | non-space ;-) | 11:22 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 11:23 |
| mr_pouit | we could replace "Xfce Session" by "Xfce" though | 11:23 |
| knome | yeah | 11:23 |
| knome | but that doesn't fix the xubuntu session, and definitely not lxdm | 11:24 |
| mr_pouit | but still, it's a string change, so a bit annoying at this point | 11:24 |
| knome | let's not do it. | 11:24 |
| knome | lxdm must be fixed, seriously | 11:24 |
| mr_pouit | lubuntu uses lightdm, so I guess it's low priority, even for them ;-) | 11:24 |
| knome | i don't think it's eating users from xubuntu/xfce, more likely it's going to eat users from lxdm | 11:24 |
| knome | yeah, there was just some talk about that in twitter | 11:25 |
| knome | the more i think about it, the more i think we shouldn't do anything, since otherwise lxdm won't ever fix this, rather, just keep on asking people to use non-space session names | 11:28 |
| knome | it's probably annoying for those who want to use lxdm and xubuntu/xfce, but they can fix the files on their own + apply pressure to fix lxdm | 11:29 |
| knome | okay, i'm off! see you again on sunday :) | 12:02 |
| ochosi | awwh, just missed you then | 12:22 |
| ochosi | have a nice weekend knome | 12:23 |
| martinphone | when 12.04 is out, will there be the possibility in file manager to ctrl+something to add tabs instead of having to co ctrl+n to open a new window? | 12:56 |
| ochosi | martinphone: no, thunar doesn't support tabs by design, there have been lengthy discussions about that on mailinglists, forums and irc | 13:02 |
| martinphone | ok | 13:05 |
| astraljava | gah, talk about last minute awakenings. :) | 13:50 |
| ochosi | astraljava: you woke up last minute for what? | 13:55 |
| astraljava | release meeting mail. :) | 13:55 |
| ochosi | oh, right, haven't read that | 13:57 |
| ochosi | (not subscribed i guess) | 13:58 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Yeah it's sent to ubuntu-release@l.u.c | 13:58 |
| astraljava | ...although there doesn't appear to be a meeting, so I worried for nothing. | 14:06 |
| astraljava | These default apps for media files are puzzling me, see f.e. bug #973654. | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 973654 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Audio CDs default to Exaile but gmusicbrowser is installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973654 | 14:30 |
| astraljava | Studio has the same problem, no exaile and no parole either. | 14:31 |
| mr_pouit | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/thunar-volman.xml | 14:52 |
| mr_pouit | this bug affects only 11.10 | 14:52 |
| astraljava | mr_pouit: Oh ok. We just have to fix our own. Thanks for pointing to the correct place! | 14:54 |
| mr_pouit | ah indeed, ubuntustudio-default-settings still has: <property name="command" type="string" value="exaile"/> | 14:56 |
| mr_pouit | replace it with: <property name="command" type="string" value="parole --device=%d"/> | 14:56 |
| mr_pouit | and you're good to go | 14:56 |
| astraljava | mr_pouit: We don't ship parole by default, so we're gonna use something else for it, but yeah, that's the spot right there. We also need to tweak a little more as the current situation with nautilus/Thunar just isn't as it should be. | 15:00 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: with the last update i got the new clipman icon...looks grat | 18:42 |
| leo-unglaub | thanks ! | 18:42 |
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