[00:08] <xubuntu363> :)
[00:46] <xubuntu105> Hello, could I please ask if the Beta 2 release can be updated to "final" when it arrives? Or would I need to re-install?
[00:48] <drc> Just update as indicated...no re-install needed.
[00:49] <xubuntu105> Excellent, thanks for your time.
[00:49] <drc> np, I'll send you a bill... :0
[00:50] <xubuntu105> :)
[00:52] <xubuntu874> Hi I installed Xubuntu because my machine no longer had enough RAM for Ubuntu. Gut it also does not Have enough memory for the latest version of flashplugin. Is there an older flash version available?
[00:55] <xubuntu874> To clarify I dont have enough Video memory for latest flashplugin in Xbuntu (64MB) is there a version that will work for me to see ustream?
[01:00] <xubuntu874> OK I guess not  I'll keep trying other places
[04:28] <Mokura> Okay, I updated to 12.04b2, and the wireless network indicator doesn't want to change its icon when I select a new theme, and it no longer displays the signal strength in the tooltip.
[04:29] <Mokura> Not a deal-breaker, but slightly annoying, and not sure how/where to look for its config.  Looking in home, for starters.
[04:29] <Sysi> try running xfce4-panel -r
[04:29] <Mneumonic> Does anyone else have a problem where Thunar takes about 20 seconds to start up upon a fresh boot of Xubuntu 11.10
[04:30] <Unit193> Mneumonic: Known bug.
[04:30] <Mneumonic> Is there any workaround for this?  It's not the most annoying thing in the world but it slows work down a lot
[04:30] <Mokura> No change, Sysi
[04:31] <Mokura> the network bars are pretty much the only icon that doesn't change
[04:31] <Mokura> persistent through reboots/relogs
[04:38] <Mokura> bleh
[04:39] <Unit193> Mneumonic: Do you use shared network folders?
[04:41] <Mokura> gonna try reinstalling the package :\
[04:50] <Mokura> Well, that didn't seem to do anything.
[04:52] <Mokura> It's just that applet, it seems.
[04:52] <Mokura> Dunno why it would stick from an upgrade.
[04:54] <Mneumonic> Sorry I'm back
[04:54] <Mneumonic> I dont think I use shared network folders unless they are already shared out of the box
[04:55] <Unit193> Then you can remove gvfs-backends
[04:56] <Mneumonic> does it fix the problem?
[04:59] <Mneumonic> Okay i removed it, gonna reboot and try it
[05:01] <Mneumonic> Okay that fixed it, thanks!  The only other problem I have with Xubuntu (or regular Ubuntu) is that every time I restart I get a popup that says "network service discovery disabled"  How do i stop this from happening
[05:02] <Unit193> Heh, that sounds like bluetooth, no?
[05:02] <Mneumonic> It mentions Avahi, not sure what that is
[05:02] <Unit193> Not had that myself, but check the startup options in the settings manager.
[05:02] <Mneumonic> and says "your current network has a .local domain"
[05:03] <Mokura> oh, I think it's based on the network you're connecting to
[05:03] <Sysi> your ISPs DNS server resolves .local which it shouldn't do
[05:03] <Mokura> also, I can't seem to find where the nm-applet keeps its settings
[05:03] <Mneumonic> how do i fix it?
[05:04] <Sysi> just a sec..
[05:04] <Mokura> oh wait, maybe I tried reinstalling the wrong package
[05:04] <Mokura> welp let's try that then
[05:05] <Sysi> he needs to edit /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[05:06] <Sysi> oh, different guy
[05:06] <Mneumonic> ok I have avahi-daemon open in leafpad
[05:07] <Sysi> change 1 to 0
[05:07] <Mneumonic> what does it do?
[05:09] <Mneumonic> okay i switched it
[05:09] <Mneumonic> gonna relog and try it out
[05:13] <Mneumonic> Sysi thanks, problems are all fixed now.  Xubuntu is a great distro
[05:15] <Mokura> Removing and reinstalling gnome-network-manager didn't seem to do any good either.
[05:15] <Mokura> (Also Firefox boots on startup now because I left save session info checked, and I'm not sure how to fix that.  Save a session with no apps running?)
[05:30] <Unit193> Remove them from .cache
[05:30] <Mokura> terminal fiddlery gives me this when I try running nm-applet on its own
[05:30] <Mokura> http://pastebin.com/5jHpe2xW
[05:34] <Mokura> although I did find this
[05:34] <Mokura> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdk-pixbuf/+bug/927393
[05:36] <xubuntu831> hi
[05:38] <xubuntu831> hi
[07:51] <Mordy> hi can anyone tell me how to move panel 1 to bottom?
[07:58] <Mordy> ok I unlock the panel and moved to bottom :D
[10:17] <newby> hello
[10:17] <newby> I want to know how can I rename Guest account and how to set it's default lang to my native language instead of English
[10:18] <newby> All I have found on the internet was how to disable it
[10:18] <newby> which I dont want
[10:22] <well_laid_lawn> !ibus | newby
[10:25] <newby> i know about ibus, but I'm asking how to change language in guest account (account which copies temporary files to /tmp and has restrictions so anyone can use it without messing with my data)
[10:25] <newby> anyone can use my PC
[10:26] <newby> w
[10:26] <newby> sorry
[10:26] <well_laid_lawn> !kiosk
[10:29] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1481515
[10:29] <Sysi> I'm not sure if that covers everything
[10:33] <newby> Sysi: thanks
[12:43] <martinphone> hi
[12:43] <martinphone> after my turning to a pure xfce machine I need some plug ins to listen to online radio, can you tell me som packages I need?
[12:44] <ochosi> martinphone: you could try radiotray
[12:44] <martinphone> ochosi, im trying to do that
[12:45] <martinphone> ochosi, it works, its just that all ym taiwanese radio stations need a plug in, any idea?
[12:45] <martinphone> my
[12:51] <ochosi> sry, i have no clue about taiwanese radio stations
[12:58] <martinphone> my gstreamer installation is missing a plug in, is that of help?
[12:58] <martinphone> for the radio thing, again
[13:01] <mongy> martinphone: you need to have the right url for it, it's not like a web based player
[13:01] <mongy> what is your url?
[13:02] <martinphone> the url of the station I try to use you mean...
[13:02] <mongy> what are you using as the url yes
[13:03] <martinphone> dont know, I added a whole bunch of radio stations like a year ago to a file, I dont remeber how I did it, im googling to re find the instructions I followed... its all I can say
[13:03] <ochosi> martinphone: so you're missing gstreamer plugins?
[13:03] <martinphone> ochosi, thats what radiotray says...
[13:03] <ochosi> martinphone: in that case install the -bad and -ugly plugins is what i'd suggest (i always forget which ones are used for mp3)
[13:03] <mongy> well if you get the url for it I'll have a look
[13:04] <martinphone> ochosi, bad and bad multiverse or just the latter?
[13:04] <ochosi> martinphone: i think either of the two should be ok
[13:07] <martinphone> it would really help me to have a clock with different time zones in the tray, is that possible?
[13:07] <martinphone> like back in gnome
[13:08] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[13:09] <ThePendulum> The countdown on xubuntu.org, is that in hours or days?
[13:10] <Myrtti> days probably, why?
[13:10] <ThePendulum> I guess days, for it says it's less than a month before it will be released.
[13:10] <ThePendulum> Just wondering
[13:10] <ThePendulum> It would be a bit silly to state it's less than a month when it's less than a day, obviously
[13:11] <Myrtti> the usual target date to releasing a new release is the last thursday of xx.yy
[13:11] <Myrtti> or there abouts
[13:11] <ThePendulum> I didn't know that
[13:12] <holstein> martinphone: i would just try using the one from gnome2 if its still in the repos
[13:12] <martinphone> ...
[13:12] <martinphone> ok
[13:13] <ThePendulum> I guess I'm going to pull off a fresh install of Xubuntu
[13:14] <ThePendulum> Last time I'll install 11.10 I guess :P
[13:14]  * mongy running 12.04 with no issues thus far
[13:15]  * drc also
[13:15] <mongy> not even that blueman applet crash I seemed to always get..even though I don't have bt
[13:16] <ThePendulum> The last time I tried it it wasn't very polished, has it improved a lot?
[13:16] <ThePendulum> (since about 2-3 weeks ago)
[13:16] <mongy> depends what you call polish
[13:18] <ThePendulum> If I install 12.04 now, do I need to reinstall it as soon as it is released, or does it just update along?
[13:18] <Blackie_> hi, can anyone tell me how to remove border from icons on dekstop?
[13:19] <ThePendulum> Blackie_: What exact border are you referring to? I don't see any here, by default
[13:19] <mongy> ThePendulum: only difference between beta and final are package versions.  keep it updated and it will be final.
[13:19] <ThePendulum> Alrighty
[13:20] <Blackie_> ThePendulum: name of icon have border
[13:21] <ThePendulum> Do you mean that text background?
[13:21] <Blackie_> yes
[13:21] <ThePendulum> I've wondered this for a long time as well
[13:21] <Blackie_> its ugly :D
[13:22] <ThePendulum> ^
[13:22] <ThePendulum> It depends on the theme and the background how bad it is, but it very often doesn't match very well
[13:23] <Blackie_> what about icons I can't move icon on right edge it's far away from right side
[13:24] <ThePendulum> ^ This as well. The only 'solution' I've found so far, is setting the icon size so they can move further to the sides
[13:25] <ThePendulum> The desktop icons are 21px here, and I can move them all the way to the sides now
[13:25] <Blackie_> I have 72 px icons :D
[13:25] <ThePendulum> Mother of god.
[13:26] <ThePendulum> Well... just scale them up or down until you find the sweet spot :P
[13:26] <mongy> you need to edit your theme's gtkrc file and change the bg_color I think.
[13:26] <mongy> let me have a gander
[13:26] <ThePendulum> I haven't experimented with themes much, I'd trust mongy more if I were you, Blackie_
[13:28] <mongy> don't trust me :)
[13:28] <Blackie_> ok I have solved this problem with icon :D
[13:28] <mongy> I'm just a tinkerer
[13:29] <ThePendulum> Is there any possibility to add a mild drop-shadow to the panels? I am experimenting with adding another panel with nothing but a shadow background, but it overlays the windows which is... horrible
[13:29] <mongy> the thing is, I personally need that bg colour for my text to stand out on the backdrop I have
[13:30] <Blackie_> any of you using nvidia graphic card?
[13:30] <ThePendulum> mongy: There often are colours that fit better to the theme yet still make the text easy to read
[13:30] <ThePendulum> Blackie_: I wish I was. I god damnit wish I was.
[13:30] <Blackie_> I have problem with duplicating monitors
[13:31] <mongy> yeah but the one my theme provides is already good enough.  personally.
[13:31] <ThePendulum> That could be
[13:31] <ThePendulum> Blackie_: What is it?
[13:32] <Blackie_> when I do Twine option on 1 screen resulution goes crazy and on another monitor is fine
[13:32] <ThePendulum> What's twine? :(
[13:33] <Blackie_> TwinView
[13:33] <Blackie_> :D
[13:33] <ThePendulum> Oh, I just use xrandr :P
[13:35] <martinphone> back in 2 hours
[13:35] <ThePendulum> Certainly
[13:35] <vooze> Is there a way to change the full name of a user in xubuntu?
[13:35] <vooze> made a typo during install :/
[13:35] <ThePendulum> vooze: Yes, 1 second
[13:36] <ThePendulum> Menu > System > User and groups
[13:36] <ThePendulum> You'll see your name their, with Change... on the right of it
[13:37] <ThePendulum> About that, is there a way to change my photograph? I look derpy
[13:38] <mongy> lol
[13:38] <vooze> ah, i just figured it would be in "normal settings" like gnome i guess ;) thanks alot
[13:38] <ThePendulum> Nothing fancy about it indeed :P
[13:39] <mongy> ThePendulum: does it use the .face file like gnome?
[13:39] <ThePendulum> mongy: Eh... I don't know that!
[13:39] <mongy> well is there a .face in your ~ then.
[13:40] <ThePendulum> I just read that as a real-life sentence
[13:40] <ThePendulum> "Well, there's a face in your *beep* then."
[13:40] <ThePendulum> Oh, I see it now indeed
[13:41] <ThePendulum> What kind of image file is it? Jpeg, png?
[13:41] <mongy> png I think.  I don't know for sure I never have one
[13:41] <mongy> nor did have in gnome
[13:43] <ThePendulum> I am trying to demolish a Logitech keyboard
[13:43] <ThePendulum> Impossible.
[15:12] <ThePendulum> What is the latest 12.04 version?
[15:12] <ThePendulum> I've got 12.04 Beta2 from 26/03
[15:14] <bazhang> ThePendulum, #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:30] <baizon> ThePendulum: kernel 3.2.0-22 is the last one
[15:34] <martinphone> i got rid of all kubuntu stuff, but plymouth shows a kubuntu screen, not xubuntu...
[15:42] <mongy> martinphone: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[15:42] <mongy> sudo update-initramfs -u
[15:50] <martinphone> thx mongy
[15:52] <martinphone> mongy, its now updating 3.0.0.18 kernel, but im logged in with 3.0.0.17 due to segfaults on .18, will the second command work on any kernel I choose?
[15:52] <martinphone> I mean, once executed, xubuntu screen will appear no matter what kernel I choose, right?
[15:54] <mongy> it should work for whatever kernel you boot.
[15:57] <martinphone> ok...
[16:04] <martinphone> does anybody here 64 bits?
[16:05] <mongy> me
[16:08] <martinphone> is it faster than 32 bits? I mean, noticeably?
[16:09] <martinphone> only marginal benefits?
[16:09] <mongy> I can't really say, it's been ages since I used 32bit.  I doubt it would be noticeably faster anyway.
[16:10] <martinphone> speed is the main reason im leaving 32 bits, are there other reasons?
[16:15] <mongy> I've read there is slight performance gain over pae kernel if you have 4gb or more
[16:16] <mongy> I tend not to think about it, I just install what my hw supports.
[16:20] <mongy> there's no reason not to use it these days.
[17:00] <magerquark> hi, i have two sound devices in my netbook, xubuntu uses the internal soundcard, but i want to use the usb-device, thx in advance for your help
[17:00] <Sysi> magerquark: install and use pavucontrol
[17:02] <magerquark> Sysi, thank you very much for help, it works strike
[17:03] <Sysi> np
[17:03] <Os_Maleus> hi all! can You tell me an open-source vector graphic program for LinuxÜ
[17:04] <magerquark> well, enjoy your day, i am off to a network session now
[17:04] <Os_Maleus> *Linux?
[17:04] <Sysi> Os_Maleus: inkscape
[17:06] <Os_Maleus> Sysi: thanks! that one looks suitable. :-)
[17:06] <martinphone> how much can a 8gb ram memory cost?
[17:07] <Os_Maleus> martinphone: at which corner of the world?
[17:07] <Sysi> in rather expensive nordic country, 54€
[17:07] <martinphone> Os_Maleus, just wanted to compare prices with poor portugal
[17:08] <Os_Maleus> martinphone: www.idealo.de www.gaizhals.at ... for German and Austrian market.
[17:10] <martinphone> danke Os_Maleus
[17:11] <martinphone> cant I donwload 12.04 64bits beta2 in a torrent?
[17:11] <Os_Maleus> martinphone: You are welcome!
[17:12] <martinphone> bist du nicht deutsch?
[18:11] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to make a panel hide behind windows, yet not autohide when there's no cursor nearby?
[18:11] <Sysi> no
[18:11] <baizon> ThePendulum: no
[18:11] <baizon> adeskbar can do this
[18:12] <baizon> its calld intellihide
[18:12] <Sysi> well, you can set in config files panel to be 1px from border when it behaves like that
[18:12] <ThePendulum> baizon: I'd say Window Dodge would be what I'm looking for
[18:12] <baizon> hmm ok
[18:18] <Mord_> hello I have urgent case here I have installed latest nvidia drivers and restarted pc but now it freezes at logo screen / progress bar? can anyone help
[19:26] <martinphone> i cannot mount external HDD. they appear with their correct names in file manager, but if I click on them, file manager closes. I can open a terminal and cd to it, files are there
[19:26] <martinphone> sudo mkdir /media/usb; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb doesnt work, it is already mounted
[19:28] <martinphone> automount problem?
[19:29] <baizon> so its not a mount problem
[19:29] <baizon> when you can access it within the terminal
[19:30] <martinphone> ... ok
[19:30] <baizon> its not working with thunarr?
[19:31] <baizon> what filesystem is it?
[19:31] <baizon> ntfs?
[19:31] <martinphone> ext4
[19:31] <martinphone> im sorry, thunar = file manager?
[19:31] <baizon> indeed
[19:31] <martinphone> it doesnt wor with thunar then
[19:31] <martinphone> k
[19:32] <baizon> what version of xubuntu?
[19:33] <martinphone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/917884/
[19:33] <martinphone> 11.04
[19:33] <baizon> i would recommend to update your os
[19:33] <baizon> to 11.10
[19:33] <martinphone> crap, sorry
[19:33] <martinphone> 11.10 in the machine
[19:37] <baizon> whats dmesg saying?
[19:37] <baizon> anything unusual?
[19:38] <martinphone> what command do I have to write? just dmesg?
[19:40] <baizon> yes
[19:40] <martinphone> last lines of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/917896/
[19:40] <martinphone> There is another line somewhere in the middle of the output
[19:40] <martinphone> im looking for EXT4, do you need the whole output?
[19:41] <baizon> i would recommend to report it as a bug
[19:41] <martinphone> would they need the whole output?
[19:42] <baizon> i think so
[19:42] <martinphone> baizon, have you read "maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended" ?
[19:43] <baizon> yes
[19:43] <baizon> you can try to do it
[19:44] <martinphone> http://openfsg.com/index.php/Using_e2fsck._File_System_Check makes me be cautious
[19:46] <baizon> yeah it will delete the broken blocks and the data will be lost
[19:46] <baizon> thats "normal"
[19:54] <martinphone> unglaublich?
[19:55] <baizon> ?
[19:55] <martinphone> that was for leo-unglaub
[19:55] <leo-unglaub> lol
[19:55] <baizon> martinphone: have you checkd it?
[19:56] <leo-unglaub> like i never heared that one before
[19:56] <martinphone> baizon, no cause Id prefer not to risk any loss of data. what bothers me in this case is that ALL of the 2 external HDD and 2 USB sticks I have plugged in show the same error at the same time, since I migrated from ubuntu to xubuntu...
[19:57] <martinphone> so, bist du deutsch?
[19:58] <baizon> hmm so that will be a thunar bug :)
[19:58] <baizon> send a bugreport to launchpad or the thunar team
[19:58] <martinphone> ill wait till tomorrow when I but a new external HDD and read what happens
[19:58] <martinphone> buy<*
[19:59] <baizon> ok
[19:59] <martinphone> how do you americans or british differenciate between but and butt (shen speaking)?
[19:59] <martinphone> when*
[20:03] <baizon> any ideas? my xchat-indicator isnt working like in this picture http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4270057604_3494448067_o.png
[20:03] <baizon> i installd the xchat-indicator package
[20:05] <ewe>  behöver hjälp med ljud och video på min laptop, nån som har lust att hjälpa?
[20:08] <ewe> hej
[20:26] <CarlBearcoon> Can somebody help me with a sound problem?
[20:29] <CarlBearcoon> Anyone?
[23:22] <xubuntu046> hi there, I need help, please
[23:24] <babble> go ahead and ask your question, xubuntu046 - if anyone knows, they'll answer.
[23:25] <xubuntu046> This my first installation and my screen are all black, can't access anything except Firefox
[23:25] <xubuntu046> how much time will it take xubuntu to install...
[23:25] <xubuntu046> ?
[23:25] <babble> it depends on several factors, among them the speed of your installation media and the speed of your computer.
[23:25] <babble> if you're installing from CD, plan on an hour or so.
[23:26] <babble> (on slow-to-midrange hardware)
[23:27] <xubuntu046> its a Pentium 4, 1.8Ghz, 640mb RAM, 40GB HD
[23:28] <babble> if you're installing from cd, probably 30-45 mins.
[23:28] <babble> so budget a bit more for fiddly things
[23:28] <xubuntu046> it's been circa 80 minutes
[23:28] <babble> how far along are you? where's the install at?
[23:29] <xubuntu046> my screen is black and fool of me i move the install screen to another work place so now I cant view at all...
[23:29] <babble> well, hmm.
[23:29] <babble> that presents a problem.
[23:30] <xubuntu046> yeah
[23:30] <babble> an hour and a half sounds like something may be stuck.
[23:30] <xubuntu046> can't see the dock neither the clock or anything else
[23:30] <babble> are you installing on a second partition? anything that will die horribly if you reboot now?
[23:31] <xubuntu046> well no... im using the hole HD for installing Xubuntu
[23:31] <babble> is this a new install? No user files to worry about?
[23:32] <martinphone> logging in I see a kubuntu plymouth, logging out a xubuntu one. sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth has been checked twice as 8 (xubuntu) whats wrong?
[23:33] <xubuntu046> Nothing at all, in fact this the second try...  first one erased Win XP but got an electric problem... so I retry (this one) so no file to worry about
[23:33] <babble> I'd guess the installer is stuck, but without seeing it there's probably not an easy way to tell.
[23:33] <babble> if it were me, I'd reboot the machine and try again.
[23:34] <babble> (don't move the installer off your workspace this time. hehe)
[23:34] <xubuntu046> yeah... just i got desperate...
[23:34] <babble> why?
[23:34] <babble> if it's a clean installation, there's nothing to really worry about losing.
[23:34] <babble> short of harware issues, I guess, if you had a power outage or something, but that's not awfully likely
[23:35] <xubuntu046> well so you think it is best to  do the re install?
[23:37] <xubuntu046> or do you know any hot keys that allow me to view again the menus and anything else?
[23:39] <xubuntu046> 'cause when I move my mouse cursor outside Firefox its seems like been procesin', but my cd drive is like stopped...
[23:42] <xubuntu046> babble, thanks a lot pal... I'll retry the darn installation thanks for your time
[23:46] <babble> d'