[01:01] Riddell, ScottK, i uploaded kde-workspace with kwinactive changes to ninjas :-D [02:04] rbelem: Or not. It failed to build. [02:14] ScottK, i forgot to uncomment some lines in debian/rules [04:08] JontheEchidna: thanks for explanation. Because 4.8.4 will end up in official repositories, an average user (who doesn't use apt-get) will be stuck with muon. When that time comes, maybe it will be nice to post on official site/forums about using apt-get instead of muon :) === nihui_ is now known as nihui === benonsoftware is now known as Guest92794 [12:32] Riddell, ScottK, kde-workspace built fine :-D [13:44] rbelem: [13:44] Unpacking replacement kde-window-manager ... [13:44] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.8.2a-0ubuntu2~ppa2_i386.deb (--unpack): [13:44] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/kwin4_effect_builtins.so', which is also in package kde-window-manager-common 4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu1 === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [13:45] please add breaks/replaces when moving files around [13:46] yofel_, oh! sorry i didnt know about that [13:47] yofel_, should i fix that or could you do that? :-) [13:52] rbelem: could you please? I'm on a crappy connection here, and your changes aren't in bzr [13:53] yofel_, oki [13:55] yofel_, but i'm not sure how it will look. It would be something like Package: kde-window-manager\n breaks: kde-window-manager-common (<< 4.8.2a) ? [13:57] almost, Breaks: kde-window-manager-common (<< 4.8.2a-0ubuntu2) [13:57] you need the packaging rev here too, as this is a ubuntu1 -> ubuntu2 change [13:57] nice [13:57] yofel_, how about the replaces? [13:58] s/Breaks/Replaces/ [13:58] yofel_: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [13:58] yofel_, for the same package? [13:59] yes [14:00] yofel_, thanks for lesson :-D === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:00] i will fix that now [14:04] yofel, i move libnvidiahacks to its own package also. it was in common [14:04] yofel, should i add breaks replaces for it? [14:05] hm, I was wondering why that didn't fail [14:05] libkwinnvidiahacks is empty here [14:06] o.O [14:06] oh! i forgot the install file [14:07] yofel, i forgot to move it from the old 4.8.2 [14:09] yofel, how about the so version [14:09] also, if you have a file called libkwinactivenvidiahack.so.4 [14:09] the package it's in is libkwinactivenvidiahack4, not libkwinactivenvidiahacks [14:09] yofel, should i use 4? [14:09] :-D [14:09] yofel, thanks :-) [14:09] * yofel swears something about 40% packet loss [14:35] yofel, should i bump ppa version or ubuntu version? [14:38] ppa, unless someone already uploaded it to the archive [14:40] nice [14:40] :-) [14:40] yofel, so it will breaks/replaces in 4.8.2a-0ubuntu1 [14:40] right? [14:42] right [14:42] yofel, :-) [15:32] hey folks === smarter_ is now known as smarter__ === smarter__ is now known as smarter === Peace- is now known as nowardev2 === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc === Guest92794 is now known as benonsoftware [23:26] Stupid question, I'm sure, but why is the backport repository not enabled by default? I mean, who doesn't like updates? [23:32] I understand the reasoning behind it. I just think times have changed and development is too fast now not to have it on by default. [23:35] what harm is there waiting 6 months to update? [23:35] people are expected to wait 2 years from LTS to LTS [23:35] and most people honestly don't really care about the bi-annual KDE updates [23:36] they care about a system that works [23:36] reliably and regression free [23:46] Backports is enabled by default in Oneiric and later. [23:59] (with the caveat of the user having to manually upgrade the packages he wants newer versions of) [23:59] but this doesn't apply to the backports PPA, which is more of what I was talking about