[01:36] <Daskreech> !us
[02:19]  * Daskreech sighs. Is there a way to get Google to search for what I asked it to search for?
[03:36] <Guest90244> any recommendations for someone switchin from ubuntu to kubuntu? or is it pretty much the same with a different desktop manager
[03:58] <DarthFrog> Guest23901: Kubuntu is Ubuntu but with KDE instead of GNOME/Unity.
[03:58] <bazhang> he quit
[03:59] <DarthFrog> Ah.  i didn't notice.
[04:31] <switchkel> I have a file in my memory stick called ".mpga" and I used the terminal program to try and track it down.  How do I find this file: .mpga ?  It's not listed in any directory.
[04:32] <kb3gtn> I cd to the root of the memory stick and do: find ./ | grep mpga
[04:32] <Daskreech> left already
[04:32] <kb3gtn> seems to be the norm here..
[04:34] <Daskreech> Yep
[04:35] <Daskreech> I've seen people logi, ask, get annoyed, call people names and log out in less than a minute
[05:45] <Laiam> why is kde forcing java swing to use metal even if I tell my java program to use a different lookandfeel?
[05:51] <Daskreech> Laiam: Forcing?
[05:52] <Laiam> yeah... i consider it forced since I used the UIManager.setlookandfeel() thing to tell it to use another look and feel then ran the program and no change in gui
[05:53] <Laiam> it works fine in unity and gnome but not in kde
[06:05] <doa> I do as the page say http://www.l4ka.org/120.php  but the qemu display   no bootable device
[06:05] <doa> who can help me
[06:21] <Daskreech> doa: hi
[06:22] <Daskreech> Laiam: Well something is set wrong in the Javavariables then
[06:22] <Daskreech>  Check the JAVAPATH?
[06:23] <Laiam> seriously? i'm using a fresh install of everything
[06:23] <Daskreech> Laiam: Yeah but it's a Java isue
[06:24] <Laiam> if i switch my desktop environment to unity or gnome the app uses the correct lookandfeel
[06:32] <Daskreech> Laiam: sorry tryin to fix another computer
[06:33] <Daskreech> Laiam: Can you dump your envoronment in UNity ?
[06:34] <Laiam> Daskreech: I've made progress uncommenting a line in the swing.properties file in the folder but its still not taking my modification to the systemlaf variable
[06:36] <Daskreech> Laiam: That is strange though
[06:37] <Laiam> Daskreech: kde doesn't tell java to use the gtklaf as the system laf so it defaults to the cross platform laf i'm trying to see how i can set the systemlaf to gtk now
[06:50] <Daskreech> Laiam: ok
[06:50] <Laiam> Daskreech: ok so for kde the program i was using used a shell script to open stuff so for now i've just jammed this little tidbit " -J-Dswing.systemlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel" without the quotes into a line in the script that calls the actual program
[06:51] <Laiam> it still doesn't fix my systemlaf for programs overall...
[06:52] <Laiam> Daskreech: but at least I know it's not forcing java to be stupid on purpose rather it was left out overlooked or something
[06:58] <Daskreech> Laiam: thats what I would expect
[06:59] <Daskreech> Laiam: want to add that in a bug report
[06:59] <Laiam> I probably should
[07:00] <Laiam> the gtk laf has improved a lot since java1.4
[07:01] <Daskreech> Laiam: please do. Java packages should be setup correctly regardless of your DE
[07:17] <Laiam> Daskreech: its java's fault this time... I just looked through the ui manager class the system look and feel is defined as windows, gnome, or apple if not one of those then it returns the "cross-platform" laf
[07:32] <Daskreech> Laiam: SOmehow not surprised
[08:33] <dave_> Hi
[08:33] <lordievader> dave_, hello
[08:33] <dave_> whats up
[08:33] <dave_> ?
[08:34] <lordievader> dave_, not much doing good, how about you?
[08:34] <dave_> doing pretty good
[08:34] <Daskreech> Irie
[08:35] <dave_> what command shows channels?
[08:36] <Daskreech>  there is /list but you probably don't want to do that
[08:37] <Daskreech> It sshows all the channels and there are multi thousands of channels on freenode
[08:38] <lordievader> Perhaps this can help you: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[08:38] <Daskreech> There is a bot you can message to get a list of specific channels
[08:39] <dave_> thx
[08:41] <Daskreech> dave_: Is there something specific you are looking for or you just want to browse?
[08:42] <dave_> just looking around
[08:52] <Daskreech> dave_: Alright :) it's mostly just projects though :)
[08:53] <dave_> thanks
[08:53] <dave_> heard about the November movement?
[08:55] <dave_> Hey Neo
[08:57] <dave_> nick
[08:59] <dave_> how do you get the commands list?
[09:01] <dave_> anyone heard about "the hole"
[09:02] <dave_> ?
[09:22] <Daskreech> The hole?
[10:05] <Bacta> Nice work on the Beta
[10:06] <Bacta> Am really enjoying this
[10:25] <szal> Moin zusammen
[11:10] <bomberoenredado> hola
[11:11] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning hows germany today
[11:12] <bomberoenredado> Hola
[11:12] <BlouBlou> bomberoenredado: Hola, aquí se habla en inglés, para español #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es :)
[11:14] <bomberoenredado> Hi BlouBlou
[11:14] <BlouBlou> hey
[12:57] <meNtha> o/
[14:00] <Guest24933> hhhooooooooooooo
[14:01] <franz> yaaaa
[15:32] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[15:40] <DarthFrog> Good morning, BluesKaj
[15:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning DarthFrog
[15:47] <Peace-> ops :D i have a problem with my intel video car
[15:47] <Peace-> :D
[15:48] <BluesKaj> finally got kmail working to my satisfaction ., but it did take a total clean reinstall to rid my pc of corrupted akonadi and mysql config files
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Peace-, , what's happening exactly
[15:49] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i did something of wrong i guess :D
[15:50] <Peace-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[15:50] <Peace-> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[15:52] <F-2> hello
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Peace-, which graphics card ?
[15:53] <Peace-> it's intel 945gm
[15:53] <Peace-> i guess there was some problems with update
[15:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm messed up my panel on the bottom , now its missing the part of the panel that shows minimised files, progams ? panel is there just not that part
[15:56] <Peace-> mydogsnameisrudy: remove the panel
[15:56] <Peace-> mydogsnameisrudy: add the pannel
[15:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> oke
[15:57] <Peace-> mydogsnameisrudy: i need to reboot now
[15:57] <Peace-> bye
[16:53] <BluesKaj> !synaptiks | mydogsnameisrudy
[16:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> ive got the touch pad to not work when typing and sometime it just seems to lock , not letting me push the buttons ..
[16:54] <BluesKaj> !kde-config-touchpad
[16:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep been in there also
[16:55] <BluesKaj> gawd what
[16:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> might be hardware , not sure
[16:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> seems more like it gets confused and locks
[16:55] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with factoids , that app is in the repos
[16:56] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, on 11.10 or 12.04?
[16:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> 11.10
[16:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> been trying to tweek it  , hates all the flashing things wants it simple and working
[16:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> just reduced the time before switching on ill test that
[17:38] <DarthFrog> Anyone here a dab had with KMail?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> My wife wanted to stop KMail2 from automatically checking for mail, so naturally she deleted those POP accounts in KMail (Yes, I married her for her looks.)  Now she has no access to the mail in those accounts.  How can she get back access to her mail?  Note: all the mail was POPped in KMail1, then migrated to KMail2.
[17:38] <DarthFrog>  There's 8.9 gig used in .kde/share/apps/kmail and I made a backup of that directory prior to doing the migration to Kmail2.
[17:41] <Peace-> DarthFrog: ahahahahah (Yes, I married her for her looks.)
[17:41] <DarthFrog> Peace-:  She calls herself my trophy wife. :-)
[17:42] <Peace-> funny dude
[17:42] <DarthFrog> I really wish she'd asked me beforehand about how to stop KMail from automatically downloading mail. :-(
[17:43] <DarthFrog> Mind you, deleting her mail accounts certainly achieved that goal. :-)
[17:45] <fullarthas> hi
[17:59] <jimmy_swe> Hi guys! i just installed Kubuntu 12.04 on my AMD powered laptop, and when i close the lid its impossible to wake it up again. I googled it and found this: http://shantanucse.blogspot.se/2011/11/best-amdati-driver-for-ubuntu.html but according to kinfocenter i already have the Gallium0.4 driver
[17:59] <bomberoenredado> Hi there
[18:00] <jimmy_swe> Does any1 know how i can fix this issue?
[18:00] <bomberoenredado> how can i have virtualbox and zsnes installed in my kubuntu?
[18:01] <bomberoenredado> if i install zsnes it uninstall virtualbox and if i install virtualbox it uninstall zsnes
[18:05] <jimmy_swe> Am i doing something incredibly stupid or is everybody just idling??
[18:05] <DarthFrog> If anyone had an answer to your question, they'd likely have piped up.
[18:06] <jimmy_swe> DarthFrog: Thank u!
[18:11] <mydogsnameisrudy> jimmy_swe:  i dont use 12.04 but i would turn off screen saver, set close  lid to do nothing  if you can
[18:11] <mydogsnameisrudy> look in powermanagment
[18:13] <bomberoenredado> i just find a zsnes package that sees like dont uninstall nothing, let me try and i tell you.
[19:13] <xee> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04, when I plug-in my iphone it's not recognized and I can't even access the photos on it, I was able to get tethering to work well though, are there any packages that I'm missing ?
[19:47] <designbybeck> Anyone know how to do RAW/.CR2 thumbnail viewing in Dolphine?
[19:50] <Daskreech> designbybeck: you can use Digikam
[19:50] <designbybeck> hmmm... I'm using Darktable for my editing
[19:51] <designbybeck> i was just looking for a easy way to  browse all my files in dolphine
[19:51] <Daskreech> You can see the RAW files in dolphin?
[19:54] <designbybeck> no Darkreech that is what i'm trying to figure out
[19:54] <Daskreech> designbybeck: what is an example name of the files?
[19:54] <designbybeck> some places i have searched show to enable it in preview, but i odn't see "RAW" there... My file size preview is high enough
[19:55] <designbybeck> .CR2
[19:55] <Daskreech> Canon Camera I take it?
[19:55] <designbybeck> yes
[19:55] <Daskreech> ok what are you seeing now?
[19:58] <xee> how about iphone mounting, is this something iphone can do? to see photos like it does in windows even without itunes installed
[19:58] <Daskreech> xee: You have to install libraries for it
[19:59] <xee> I installed ifuse, is there anything else ?
[20:01] <Daskreech> I'm not sure never had an Iphone
[20:02] <xee> ok thanks
[20:02] <Daskreech> http://www.bitsbythepound.com/tethering-iphone-5-1-on-ubuntu-11-10-422.html
[20:03] <Daskreech> You can try that
[20:05] <xee> yes but that's for tethering not browsing files :)
[20:05] <xee> I just want to access it like a flash
[20:05] <xee> flash drive*
[20:06] <Daskreech> xee: far as I know you need to jail break it for that
[20:07] <xee> well it is jailbroken actually and I can access the files over SSH but I wanted a faster way through the cable :)
[20:07] <Daskreech> you can sshfs :)
[20:08] <xee> ok thanks :)
[20:08] <Daskreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone is a year old
[20:08] <Daskreech> generally everytime Apple updates the phone it breaks the access methods so I'd suppsoe this is pretty out of date now
[20:09] <xee> ah-ha I see :)
[20:11] <ybit> Daskreech: what does kubuntu do differently from opensuse in searching for a printer?
[20:11] <ybit> it actually works compared to what opensuse ships
[20:11] <Daskreech> ybit: newer version of CUPS?
[20:34] <designbybeck> Daskreech: It looks like the answer is installing: kdegraphics-strigi-plugins
[20:34] <designbybeck> SO if anyone else is tryihng to viwe RAW/CR2 thumbnails in Dolpin hyou need to install: kdegraphics-strigi-plugins
[20:52] <Daskreech> designbybeck: Hmm interesting Not the Lipi pligins?
[20:52] <Daskreech> Kipi?
[20:53] <designbybeck> no that didn't seem to do it Daskreech
[21:00] <Daskreech> designbybeck: Well ok :) I guess that makes some sense
[21:06] <ybit> i'm curious if there's something like a listing of commits for the kubuntu distro
[21:07] <ybit> ...because i'd like to compare development activity between distros
[21:10] <Daskreech> ybit: commits?
[21:10] <Daskreech> I dunno distros are just collections of a projcts
[21:10] <Daskreech> you'd have to look at the projects that are local to the  distro which isn't at all a fair comparison
[21:10] <Daskreech> going on the road soon be back
[21:14] <ybit> that's what is tripping me up
[21:15] <ybit> i read somewhere opensuse had over a thousand bug fixes
[21:15] <ybit> in its last official release
[21:15] <ybit> and i'm trying to determine where the at number is coming from
[21:50] <ronnoc_> ybit: Ask Jos directly? He likely know where those figures came from, as the Suse community leader.
[21:51] <ronnoc_> *would know
[22:05]  * ybit is curious what the difference is between the cd and dvd version of kubuntu and if one installs more software than the other
[22:07] <ybit> google to the rescue
[22:35] <Xabster> Hi, I'm looking for a comparison between Ubuntu and Kubuntu - do you know any such articles?
[23:08] <ronnoc> Xabster: The only differences are the desktop environments used
[23:11] <Xabster> Okay, ronnoc, so in theory I could install some packages and change my desktop and basicly have Kubuntu?
[23:12] <ronnoc> Well, if you mean taking stock Ubuntu and installing the KDE Plasma Desktop, then you're mainly right. There are are few tweaks and scripts that Kubuntu uses that are unique to Kubuntu
[23:13] <ronnoc> But in practical terms, yo'd be mostly correct, as they use the same repositories
[23:13] <Xabster> Would this mean that all current applications are also available for kubuntu?
[23:13] <Xabster> all *my*
[23:13] <ronnoc> Yes. For example, I use Ubuntu One and Ubuntu Software Center on my Kubuntu installation
[23:14] <ronnoc> Also, if KDE is installed right, you'll have a choice on login of which desktop environment you would like to use for that session
[23:15] <Xabster> I see. Can I be so bold as to ask why there's not a "conversion" script available to convert Ubuntu to Kubuntu so you don't have to have 2 separate images? :)
[23:16] <ronnoc> Probable because a stock Kubuntu installation and copying over relevant files to your new Home directory would be safer and likely just as fast
[23:16] <ronnoc> *probably
[23:17] <Xabster> I see.
[23:17] <Xabster> So basically I can expect what I'm used to except that it looks nicer
[23:17] <ronnoc> You can also install Ubuntu and Kubuntu side-by-side on the same hard drive, and select the one you want to run at start-up. Lots of different options :)
[23:17] <Xabster> Yeah, I'm thinking of doing it in virtual box before I change or dual boot it
[23:18] <ronnoc> Well, we think KDE is nicer. But there are defiantly things I like about Ubuntu as well, like U1
[23:18] <Xabster> I don't know what that is so I guess I won't be missing it
[23:18] <ronnoc> It's kind of the best of both worlds
[23:18] <ronnoc> *u1 = UbuntuOne
[23:19] <Xabster> Ubuntu One the sync thingy like dropbox kinda?
[23:19] <ronnoc> Yea. I use it daily. But 99 pct of all my other apps are pure KDE
[23:19] <Xabster> hold on, you said you had ubuntu one on Kubuntu earlier...? :)
[23:20] <ronnoc> I do have UbuntuOne on my Kubuntu, yes. As of 12.04, UbuntuOne is even written in Qt, which fits righ tat home natively in KDE :)
[23:20] <Xabster> and a side question: there's 2.5 gb difference between the 700mb image and DVD 64 bit image... is ALL that language stuff?
[23:21] <ronnoc> *right at
[23:21] <Xabster> I can't believe that there's 2.5gb translations ... is that right? oO
[23:21] <Xabster> oh nvm, i misread
[23:22] <Xabster> there's live version, installer and alternate installer
[23:22] <ronnoc> ...and the DVD, for lanuages like you said
[23:22] <ronnoc> I just use the CD
[23:22] <Xabster> besides, who cares when you can download with 4MB/s :p
[23:23] <ronnoc> Xabster: lucky :p
[23:25] <Xabster> i ordered my internet 10 days before the end of a campaign so i felt lucky
[23:25] <Xabster> right when they stopped the campaign they started a new campaign for 10/10mbit faster internet for the same price
[23:25] <Xabster> so i could have had 45/45 for the same price :(
[23:26] <ronnoc> Xabster: where are you located?
[23:27] <Xabster> denmark and i pay 169 dkk per month the first 6 months
[23:27] <Xabster> that's about 30$
[23:28] <ronnoc> wow. I pay $40/US month for 500kbs :/
[23:28] <ronnoc> though to be fair, I do not live in a city
[23:28] <Xabster> I'm quite lucky, you 1) they already had fiber in this street and 2) the installation was part of the campaign
[23:29] <Xabster> which is normally 2500 DKK to get the cable dug in
[23:29] <Xabster> 280 or so dollars installation plus a fee to turn on the internet
[23:29] <Xabster> no
[23:29] <Xabster> 480 dollars
[23:30] <ronnoc> Europe in general has passed the 'States for technology infrastructure. Our continent is just so big geographically. It's both a blessing and a curse :p
[23:30] <ronnoc> Although we get high speeds in the large cities or if you are near a University
[23:30] <Xabster> i don't think you can get this kind of speed in the cities in the US for this price, can you?
[23:31] <Xabster> i haven't heard for sync fiber lines at low prices anywhere else than north europe
[23:31] <Xabster> for private customers that is
[23:31] <ronnoc> I don't think that fast here, no. But if you are on or near a major University you will get high speeds
[23:32] <Xabster> i see
[23:32] <Xabster> I can get up to 90/90 at affordable prices
[23:32] <Xabster> 80$/month for 90/90 - if 2 people share it or a whole building of any kind with more residents share it, it's madly cheap
[23:33] <Xabster> and it's allowed to share
[23:33] <ronnoc> wow.
[23:33] <ronnoc> BTW - we should take this to kubuntu-offtopic :p
[23:33] <Xabster> let's leave it =)
[23:33] <Xabster> i'm about to install the DVD anyways
[23:34] <ronnoc> good luck! \