[01:20] <Unguided> Hello all. Quick question I hope. Ubuntu desktop and server are the same thing just with different packages at install right?
[01:28] <Zeb> hello
[01:28] <Zeb> how do you close a shell window without killing the process that is running?
[01:29] <Unit193> Using something like screen.
[01:29] <Unit193> !screen
[01:29] <ubot2> screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[01:31] <Zeb> hmm but that doesnt help for something that is currently running if i dont have screen already running
[01:31] <Zeb> right?
[01:34] <Zeb> thats ok though
[01:34] <Zeb> thx
[01:35] <Unit193> Correct, if it is already running, that won't help.
[01:35] <Zeb> so, do you have to do screen every time you might want to do something like this?
[01:36] <Zeb> is there a way to set it as the default?
[01:36] <Zeb> probably in the manual
[01:36] <Fyodorovna> "app" & exit  will start it and exit the terminal
[02:03] <ziek> No idea when the ubuntu on android will be open for public?
[02:08] <Unit193> I have no idea, nope.
[14:00] <duanedesign>  /3
[14:33] <nothingspecial> o/ bgs100
[14:34] <bgs100> hello!
[14:35] <nothingspecial> how are you bgs100
[14:35] <nothingspecial> wb iggy19
[14:36] <bgs100> alright. you?
[14:37] <nothingspecial> yes thanks
[16:54] <Ziek> Need help learning irssi
[16:54] <Unit193> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi not going to get much better than that.
[16:54] <Ziek> thanks
[16:56] <Unit193> There's a few more resources, but that's one of the great ones.
[16:59] <Ziek> yeah, I've been looking for stuff like that. I know enough to get around but I want to know more.
[17:03] <Unit193> http://jonathanbeluch.com/blog/2011/03/remote-notify-irssi-screen/ I use a modified version of that, and someone likes http://niklas.laxstrom.name/page/eng/irssi
[17:04] <Unit193> I also find some of these handy http://myrtti.fi/irssi-aliases
[17:05] <Ziek> Thanks, will look into them
[17:06] <Unit193> ubot2: info irssi-scripts
[17:06] <ubot2> Unit193: irssi-scripts (source: irssi-scripts): collection of scripts for irssi. In component universe, is optional. Version 20100512 (maverick), package size 684 kB, installed size 3200 kB
[17:06] <Unit193> That can also be handy, some of those are great.
[17:08] <Unit193> Ziek: I'd guess you already know about tmux or screen?
[17:13] <Ziek> yes but not use screen
[17:13] <Ziek> should learn to use it thou
[17:14] <Ziek> One question off topic... Do you know how to configure usb wireless cards in ubuntu?
[17:14] <bioterror> you mean like wifi dongles?
[17:15] <Ziek> like a wireless adapter
[17:16] <bioterror> mostly plug it in and wish that it works :D
[17:17] <Ziek> lol
[17:18] <Ziek> well it shows up in terminal when I list usb
[17:18] <bioterror> lsusb?
[17:18] <Ziek> so thats good news
[17:18] <Ziek> yes
[17:19] <geirha> I bought a wifi-dongle a while back. I made sure it had Tux on the package. Just plugged it in and after a few seconds it asked me what wireless network to connect to.
[17:28] <Ziek> worked
[18:09] <bobweaver> Hello there I am writing a script right now and it need to inject a table into mysql here is a example of the code. How to insert mysql ?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/919228/
[18:09] <bobweaver> with out being root
[18:09] <bobweaver> that is
[18:11] <bobweaver> brb have to reboot
[18:26] <Bhavan> hi there good evening
[18:27] <Ziek> good morning
[18:27] <Bhavan> hi i need help in sorting out problems with my keyboard in ubuntu 12.04 beta 2
[18:29] <Bhavan> i have recently loaded ubuntu in my laptop and my laptop keyboard does bnot work. i can manage without mouse pad but need the keyboard working to switch on my wifi
[18:30] <Fyodorovna> Bhavan, you might also try the 12.04 channel #ubuntu+1
[18:31] <Bhavan> thanks for the suggestion but do you kbnow a workaround for this issue?
[18:31] <Fyodorovna> Bhavan, is it a laptop or desktop?
[18:31] <Bhavan> it is a lenovo y500 laptop
[18:32] <Bhavan> i have sorked with ubuntu 11.04 in the same laptop before had same problems but managed to get it work but have forgotten how.
[18:32] <Bhavan> i mean have worked
[18:32] <Fyodorovna> Bhavan, not really any suggestion, never seen a onboard keyboard not work. Do yoiu have one to plugin to check if it works?
[18:32] <Bhavan> yes i have an usb keyboard plugged in and that is the only one which works.
[18:33] <Fyodorovna> Bhavan, not a clue here.
[18:33] <Bhavan> i had the same problem with 11.04 and then when i loaded fedora 16 the same problem with that too
[18:34] <Fyodorovna> Bhavan, what happens with a live cd, just curious really.
[18:35] <Bhavan> i like ubuntu very much that is why i deleted fedora and loaded 12.04. did not work with the live cd also
[18:35] <Bhavan> imy dvd drive was not read by the system. tried an external drive still no luck
[18:36] <Bhavan> so had to use usbnetbootin to load the installation from usb drive and that worked
[18:37] <Bhavan> as soon as i loaded ubuntu it gave a suggestion to load my wifi drive which was missing. i did that but cannot get it on since the external keyboard does not have Fn keys in it!!
[18:51] <bodhizazen> If you are having a problem with 12.04 -> bug report
[18:54] <bobweaver> Hi Bhavan_
[18:54] <Bhavan_> hi bob
[18:54] <bobweaver> try this open terminal and enter
[18:54] <bobweaver> rfkill list all
[18:54] <bobweaver> then use paste.ubuntu.com to paste to us
[18:55] <bobweaver> or tell us if there is a no
[18:55] <bobweaver> like 	Soft blocked: no
[18:55] <bobweaver> if there are yes and not no then there is a block going on we can fix that by doing a
[18:56] <bobweaver> soft block = software    hardblock= hardware
[18:56] <Bhavan_> hi bob have doene the paste
[18:57] <bobweaver> can you give us the link please
[18:57] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919320/
[18:57] <bobweaver> thanks
[18:57] <bobweaver> run
[18:57] <bobweaver> rfkill unblock all
[18:58] <Bhavan_> did that nothing happened
[18:58] <bobweaver> ok
[18:58] <bobweaver> lets see
[18:58] <bobweaver> lspci -nn
[18:58] <bobweaver> or
[18:59] <Bhavan_> did lspci do you want the ouput pasted
[18:59] <bobweaver> yup
[18:59] <bobweaver> please
[19:00] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919329/
[19:00] <bobweaver> thanks
[19:01] <bobweaver> lsmod | grep b43
[19:01] <bobweaver> do you get anything with that ^^
[19:01] <bobweaver> if not please let us see a
[19:02] <bobweaver> lsmod
[19:03] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919335/
[19:03] <bobweaver> thansk
[19:03] <bobweaver> sudo rmmod wl
[19:04] <bobweaver> then
[19:05] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get --yes install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[19:05] <bobweaver> then
[19:05] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919339/
[19:06] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get --purge  remove  broadcom-sta-common  broadcom-sta-source
[19:06] <bobweaver> ok
[19:06] <bobweaver> that is fine
[19:06] <bobweaver> do the commands posted above please ^^
[19:06] <bobweaver> no need to post
[19:07] <bobweaver> thanks thou
[19:07] <Bhavan_> done
[19:07] <bobweaver> sudo modprob b43
[19:07] <bobweaver> do you have wireless ?
[19:07] <bobweaver> if not please run
[19:07] <bobweaver> dmesg | grep b43
[19:08] <bobweaver> and paste
[19:08] <Bhavan_> do i do it one by one or dmesg | grep b43 like this
[19:09] <bobweaver> like
[19:09] <bobweaver>  dmesg | grep b43
[19:09] <Bhavan_> coz i get no response when i do dmesg | grep b43
[19:09] <bobweaver> ok
[19:09] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get --yes install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[19:10] <bobweaver> 0 installed 0 removed ect ???
[19:10] <Bhavan_> ok then
[19:10] <Bhavan_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 109 not upgraded.
[19:10] <bobweaver> ok
[19:10] <bobweaver> lsmod | grep b43
[19:10] <bobweaver> anything ?
[19:11] <Bhavan_> nothing
[19:11] <bobweaver> ok
[19:11] <bobweaver> sudo modprobe b43
[19:11] <Bhavan_> nothing
[19:12] <bobweaver> then
[19:12] <bobweaver> lsmod | b43
[19:12] <bobweaver> anything ?
[19:13] <Bhavan_> command not found
[19:13] <bobweaver> sorry
[19:13] <bobweaver> lsmod | grep b43
[19:13] <bobweaver> forgot grep sorry
[19:13] <Bhavan_> want the paste?
[19:13] <bobweaver> no
[19:13] <bobweaver> it shows up
[19:13] <bobweaver> ?
[19:14] <Bhavan_> yes
[19:14] <bobweaver> cool
[19:14] <bobweaver> rfkill unblock all
[19:14] <Bhavan_> no move
[19:14] <bobweaver> rfkill list all
[19:14] <bobweaver> paste ^^
[19:15] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919356/
[19:15] <bobweaver> dmesg | grep b43
[19:15] <bobweaver> paste ^^
[19:16] <Bhavan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919358/
[19:17] <bobweaver> sudo -i
[19:18] <bobweaver> then
[19:18] <bobweaver> echo "wl" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[19:18] <bobweaver> then
[19:19] <bobweaver> exit
[19:19] <bobweaver> then
[19:19] <bobweaver> sudo reboot
[19:19] <bobweaver> and we will see you soon
[19:22] <Bhavan__> hi bobweaver i am back after reboot
[19:23] <bobweaver> hello
[19:23] <bobweaver> wireless ?
[19:23] <bobweaver> if not lets see
[19:23] <bobweaver> rfkill list all
[19:24] <Bhavan__> not yet. i tell you what the laptop indicatin shows numlock and caps lock on. i feel the keyvboard is frozen
[19:25] <bobweaver> you can not type into terminal ?
[19:26] <Bhavan__> i can since i use an external usb keyboard
[19:26] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install numlockx
[19:27] <Bhavan__> done do u need the paste
[19:28] <bobweaver> to use numlockx we just do /usr/bin/numlockx off      or     /usr/bin/numlockx on     from terminal to turn number lock on and off
[19:28] <bobweaver> but back to wireless
[19:28] <bobweaver> rfkill list all
[19:29] <Bhavan__> ok
[19:29] <Bhavan__> no change
[19:29] <bobweaver> ok
[19:29] <bobweaver> rfkill unblock all
[19:30] <bobweaver> also try
[19:30] <bobweaver> sudo rfkill unblock all
[19:30] <Bhavan__> yes tried all no response
[19:30] <bobweaver> ok
[19:30] <bobweaver> lsmod
[19:30] <Bhavan__> done
[19:30] <bobweaver> paste ^^
[19:32] <Bhavan__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919385/
[19:32] <bobweaver> Thanks
[19:33] <bobweaver> arghh the dang wl                   2646601  0     is still there
[19:33] <bobweaver> sudo rmmod wl
[19:33] <Bhavan__> done no response
[19:34] <bobweaver> also the b43 is not there
[19:34] <bobweaver> sudo modprobe b43
[19:34] <bobweaver> then
[19:34] <bobweaver> lsmod
[19:34] <bobweaver> paste ^^
[19:36] <Bhavan__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/919391/
[19:37] <bobweaver> thanks
[19:37] <bobweaver> what kinda keyboard is this that does not have a fn key ? mac ?
[19:38] <Bhavan__> yes it has fnkey not mac
[19:39] <bobweaver> what is brand of computer ?
[19:39] <bobweaver> dell ?
[19:39] <bobweaver> press fn+f4 if dell
[19:40] <Bhavan__> it is a lenovo and for wifi it is fn +f4 but no key works and there is no fn key in external keyboard so i am stuck up
[19:41] <bobweaver> what is the brand & model  of the external keyboad please
[19:42] <Bhavan__> it is a cheap usb keyboard not a branded one i have a bluetooth keyboard also i can try that if it will help
[19:42] <bobweaver> is this a laptop or desktop ?
[19:43] <bobweaver> also does the bluetooth keyboard have a fn key
[19:46] <Bhavan__> yes it has a fn key
[19:46] <bobweaver> here is what we have done so far 1 you had the wrong driver loaded for you wireless card (wl) 2) we put the right one in there (b43) 3) we tried to blacklist the wl mod (driver)::::: What needs to still happen 1) need to make sure that the b43 loads on start not the wl  2) get a keyboard that has fn key so we can turn on
[19:46] <Bhavan__> yes now the wireless keyboard works but the fn key on it is setup for volume up an down by default in this keyboard
[19:48] <bobweaver> go to settings --> keyboard --> shortcuts
[19:48] <bobweaver> sound and media
[19:49] <bobweaver> you can now set the hot key to something else from here
[19:50] <bobweaver> make sure that you find what ever is setting fn+f4 and change it
[19:50] <Bhavan__> ok wikk try that
[19:50] <bobweaver> cool
[19:51] <bobweaver> then once we get the wireless running we will get into making it run the right one on boot
[19:51] <Bhavan__> thanx for the time u spent with me i now have to step out for some time will be back soon.
[19:51] <bobweaver> cya
[21:13] <wij> hi, the applications icon is gone from my launcher (ubuntu 11.10)
[21:13] <wij> anyway to get it back?
[21:17] <geirha> applications icon? you mean the menu bar, Applications, Places, System?
[21:17] <geirha> They replaced the gnome-panel with Unity in 11.04
[21:23] <wij> yeah, but in the launcher previously there was an icon called 'applications'. in 11.10 it's gone. so now i can't seem to get to things like 'system tools'
[21:29] <holstein> wij: you can always fire up the live CD and look around in there.. see whats missing... OR make a new user account... i typically just add everything and see what is what
[21:38] <wij> holstein: ok, will try it. in the mean time, how can i get to 'system tools'
[21:38] <holstein> wij: what are you trying to do?
[21:41] <wij> long story, starting with not being able to turn off hardware accel in flash player, over trying to switch to unity 2D
[21:41] <holstein> wij: you choose unity2d at login
[21:41] <holstein> wij: AFAIK, there are no such configuration settings in flash for linux
[21:42] <holstein> i would suggest trying chrome, as that is likely to be our best source for flash in linux in the coming years
[21:42] <wij> well the reason for this long story is that in chrome since 2 wks the hue in  youtube vids is off
[21:43] <wij> and one of the workarounds i saw is turning off hardware accel
[21:43] <wij> but that's not clickable for me
[21:44] <bioterror> wij, I cant play this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1veQocaigWQ&feature=share
[21:44] <wij> and i saw that in unity 2d i should be able turn it off
[21:44] <bioterror> Aw, snap!
[21:44] <bioterror> lovely chromium + flash <3
[21:45] <holstein> wij: you just install unity 2d, and choose it at login
[21:46] <holstein> using unity2d will not have 3d acceleration
[21:47] <wij> holstein: ok, i'll try. but was i dreaming or is there no 'system tools' in ubuntu??
[21:48] <holstein> wij: sure.. but none of those settings are there
[21:48] <wij> bioterror: in that vid the hue is OK. how come?
[21:48] <wij> holstein: so how can i access 'system tools'?
[21:49] <bioterror> wij, my 12.04 using chromium doesnt want to show. it just crashes
[21:49] <bioterror> instantly
[21:49] <holstein> wij: i dont know how to tell you to get that to open... but if you say "im trying to do X" i'll tell you where to go
[21:54] <wij> holstein: nothing in particular, as I said, i remembered there were more tools then i can access via system settings. and i also remembered an icon 'applications' in the launcher which is now gone. strange things, and i'm not even using drugs :-)
[21:54] <holstein> wij: you can always just make a new user, login, and see what is what.. find what you are looking for
[21:58] <wij> no, i can't find it using a new user either
[21:58] <wij> are you using unity?
[22:01] <holstein> wij: i dont use unity... but you should be able to just type what you are looking for in the search area
[22:01] <geirha> tap the windows key and type   system tools
[22:02] <wij> tried that, but doesn't give any results
[22:03] <holstein> wij: i wouldnt worry about "system tools" just try and find what you "need"
[22:03] <geirha> Maybe you're looking for System Settings?
[22:04] <holstein> be vague.. type "system" and look through the list... type "settings"
[22:10] <wij> no system settings i can find.  Anyways, i'll look some further tomorrow. thanks for the help all!!