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| jbicha | m4n1sh: are you around? | 18:29 |
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| m4n1sh | jbicha: yes | 18:38 |
| jbicha | it's like midnight there, right? I'm having some troubles with Zeitgeist/the Privacy panel | 18:39 |
| m4n1sh | yes. go ahead | 18:40 |
| m4n1sh | I am free now | 18:40 |
| jbicha | I'm writing a script to automate taking some screenshots of Unity; and so I deleted the zeitgeist history | 18:41 |
| m4n1sh | how did you delete it? | 18:41 |
| m4n1sh | from the UI or deleted the sqlite file? | 18:41 |
| jbicha | with the Privacy panel, I've also tried rm'ing /.local/share/zeitgeist (is that safe?) | 18:42 |
| m4n1sh | yes you can remove that zeitgeist folder | 18:43 |
| m4n1sh | you will lose history and fts index | 18:43 |
| m4n1sh | and all user specific information like blacklists too | 18:44 |
| m4n1sh | so where exactly you found the problem? | 18:44 |
| jbicha | well one problem is that with Unity 5.8, newly started apps aren't showing up as Recent Apps in the Dash | 18:45 |
| m4n1sh | you deleted the history | 18:46 |
| m4n1sh | so Unity does not know about the application usage | 18:46 |
| jbicha | but apps I started after deleting the history should show up | 18:46 |
| m4n1sh | yes, they should show up | 18:47 |
| m4n1sh | you can try using lp:zeitgeist-explorer | 18:47 |
| m4n1sh | and check if application launches are being logged or not | 18:47 |
| jbicha | how hard is it to script adding a folder to the blacklist? | 18:47 |
| jbicha | for instance I don't want the screenshots folder to be showing, cluttering up the Dash search results | 18:48 |
| m4n1sh | yes, just open Privacy | 18:48 |
| m4n1sh | and add that folder | 18:48 |
| m4n1sh | as filter | 18:48 |
| jbicha | some settings, I can just use gsettings set in the script, but you're not using gsettings, are you? | 18:48 |
| m4n1sh | no. no gsettings | 18:49 |
| m4n1sh | everthing is stored in a sqlite database | 18:49 |
| m4n1sh | gsettings can't store such complex data objects | 18:49 |
| m4n1sh | or if it can do, its too much of work | 18:49 |
| jbicha | a list of blacklisted folders can be stored in gsettings | 18:49 |
| jbicha | I'll just add it to the list of thing to be done manually after creating a new account then, thanks | 18:50 |
| m4n1sh | yes, but that is not how it is stored | 18:50 |
| m4n1sh | its lot more complex | 18:50 |
| m4n1sh | you can have incredible control over the blacklist | 18:50 |
| m4n1sh | using the blacklist api, you can control that you want to blacklist filter of type avi in a folder | 18:50 |
| jbicha | I also had a problem yesterday where the Privacy panel with Unity 5.10 wouldn't delete the history but unfortunately I didn't save the terminal output | 18:51 |
| jbicha | fortunately it's working today | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | or you can even specify to block all logging of videos of type avi in a specific folder only if it is opened by a specific player | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | yes. I think the problem is even more | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | the history is deleted | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | but the fts index is not | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | I think that might be the problem | 18:51 |
| m4n1sh | by now the index would have rebuilt itself | 18:52 |
| jbicha | the fts index takes a while then on a full home directory? | 18:52 |
| m4n1sh | no. the fts index is built using event history | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | whatever is logged | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | it does not deal with files | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | the fts search is over usage history and *not* over HOME | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | we don't do crawling using inotify | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | or any such method | 18:53 |
| m4n1sh | jbicha: anything else? | 18:55 |
| jbicha | ok, so I'm back with Unity 5.10 from the testing PPA, I deleted the history & starting new apps doesn't show in Recent Apps | 18:58 |
| jbicha | do I have to wait a certain amount of time or what do you think isn't working right? | 18:59 |
| htorque | jbicha: were the apps you started on your launcher? it seems to not show up then. | 19:17 |
| jbicha | well the apps sometimes show up and sometimes don't, here's my WIP script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/919367 | 19:24 |
| jbicha | of course that script is trying to open up certain files to fill up the recent files section too | 19:25 |
| jbicha | maybe my script needs more pausing at the right times | 19:26 |
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| Laney | jbicha: yo, have you seen bug #975686? | 20:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 975686 in ubuntu-wallpapers "package ubuntu-wallpapers-karmic (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/backgrounds/Bay.jpg', which is also in package ubuntu-wallpapers-extra 0.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975686 | 20:10 |
| * Laney dupes it to a better one | 20:11 | |
| jbicha | Laney: wow, I didn't know that package existed | 20:22 |
| Laney | me neither | 20:22 |
| Laney | I just got hit by "lost my old wallpaper" and installed ubuntu-wallpapers-*, and then this happened :-) | 20:23 |
| Laney | I'm doing a diff for the transitional package | 20:23 |
| jbicha | Laney: you lost a wallpaper? | 20:23 |
| Laney | I had an Oneiric one and it was removed when I got the new ubuntu-wallpapers, yes | 20:24 |
| Laney | it came back when I installed ubuntu-wallpapers-oneiric | 20:24 |
| jbicha | there were enough complaints when that happened for Oneiric that I thought we should fix it for this cycle | 20:26 |
| Laney | yes | 20:26 |
| Laney | I don't know what you can do other than handle it in the release upgrader though | 20:26 |
| jbicha | well it shouldn't happen again after Precise though | 20:26 |
| Laney | why? | 20:27 |
| Laney | what's seeded? | 20:27 |
| Laney | I think the wallpaper package is marked as automatically installed so apt is happy to remove it | 20:27 |
| jbicha | oh, I guess it needs a bit more work then, apt should get smarter and not remove ubuntu-wallpapers* | 20:28 |
| Laney | you have to get it marked as manually installed | 20:29 |
| jbicha | Laney: how do we do that? | 20:32 |
| Laney | not sure, perhaps it can be handled in u-m | 20:34 |
| jbicha | Laney: ok I added that note to bug 863509 | 20:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 863509 in ubuntu-wallpapers "Upgrading Ubuntu to new version deletes previous wallpapers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863509 | 20:40 |
| Laney | you probably want to talk to mvo about how to implement it | 20:40 |
| maxb | semi relevant aside: I have a removal request for ubuntu-wallpapers-extra pending sponsorship | 20:43 |
| Laney | yep, thanks for that. I'm just providing the transitional package so that people who previously had that -extra get moved over to -karmic | 20:44 |
| james_w | Laney, jbicha: If ubuntu-wallpapers is moved to the metapackages section then I think the depended-on packages won't be removed | 22:50 |
| Laney | yeah? That would be good :-) | 22:51 |
| james_w | that's the behaviour for ubuntu-desktop et. al. at least | 22:51 |
| james_w | so that if it gets removed you don't lose all of the packages on your system | 22:52 |
| james_w | I'm not sure what I can cite as evidence though, except for having a vague recollection of mvo stating this at some point | 22:52 |
| Laney | I just experimentally verified this behaviour | 22:53 |
| Laney | not for disappearing packages though | 22:57 |
| Laney | james_w: ah, it's Never-MarkAuto-Sections | 22:59 |
| james_w | ah, not entirely helpful then | 22:59 |
| Laney | no no, it /is/ helpful | 22:59 |
| Laney | "// consider dependencies of packages in this section manual" | 22:59 |
| james_w | ah | 23:00 |
| Laney | see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove | 23:01 |
| Laney | jbicha: I just pushed ^ to my branch | 23:10 |
| Laney | it's too late for oneiric, unless you (a) add some kind of hint to the release upgrader if possible or (b) SRU the wallpapers to implement the split with an ubuntu-wallpapers-oneiric package only | 23:11 |
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| jbicha | Laney: I'd rather go with option A | 23:48 |
| Laney | you should speak to mvo and see how possible it is :-) | 23:54 |
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