[16:56] <c7p> hello all :)
[16:56] <Kereltis> Hi guys :-)
[17:01] <hannie> hey c7p_
[17:02] <c7p_> hey
[17:02] <hannie> This was the meeting hour, am I right?
[17:02] <Kereltis> hey hannie
[17:02] <Kereltis> Yep
[17:02] <hannie> hi Kereltis
[17:03] <hannie> I will have a look at the agenda
[17:04] <c7p_> who many of you are here for the meeting
[17:04] <Kereltis> Me
[17:04] <hannie> me
[17:04] <herat> me
[17:05] <hannie> Kereltis, do you have another nick?
[17:05] <Kereltis> Che
[17:05] <hannie> ah, that explains it
[17:05] <Kereltis> I nearly always use kereltis though
[17:06] <hannie> Guevarra is your uncle ;)
[17:06] <Kereltis> Hehe
[17:06] <hannie> c7p_, we won 't get more people I'm afraid
[17:06] <c7p_> ye maybe
[17:07] <hannie> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMP-12-04-2ndMeeting
[17:07] <c7p_> what should we do ? we are only 4 people
[17:07] <hannie> let's follow the agenda. Others can read the minutes later
[17:08] <c7p_> oke
[17:08] <hannie> You can begin with #startmeeting
[17:09] <c7p_> #startmeeting
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[17:09] <c7p_> ok
[17:09] <c7p_> #topic Current project openings  http://tinyurl.com/crslb7w
[17:10] <c7p_> i think we should start with this topic
[17:10] <Kereltis> ok
[17:11] <hannie> right, I have opened the spreadsheet
[17:11] <c7p_> you can see current openings
[17:11] <c7p_> till now we got fair feedback from oneiric authors
[17:12] <c7p_> but still there are some authors that haven't asked our mails
[17:12] <c7p_> how long do you think will we have to wait for their response ?
[17:12] <hannie> do Kereltis and herat have any comment to add (as they are authors)
[17:13] <Kereltis> looks like we are about half way there
[17:13] <hannie> c7p_, I think we need to address each author of Oneiric individually
[17:13] <Kereltis> Yeah, maybe send them another mail
[17:13] <c7p_> i have sent email to every single author
[17:14] <hannie> Ah, you have already. Then maybe a reminder?
[17:14] <c7p_> maybe a missed someone, i'll resent them a mail
[17:14] <hannie> Good.
[17:14] <herat> I have a suggestion: we can use omgubuntu to attract more people to this project as omgubuntu has quite a lot of readers. And many of them will help in writing.
[17:15] <Kereltis> good idea
[17:15] <c7p_> ye good idea
[17:15] <hannie> +1
[17:16] <c7p_> generally we send mails to blogs,  including omg and use social media when we need new authors, editors
[17:16] <c7p_> the issue now is how long we'll have to wait for the response of the authors
[17:17] <hannie> I would say one more week
[17:17] <hannie> And then we can start asking for authors
[17:17] <c7p_> yes
[17:17] <Kereltis> yes
[17:18] <c7p_> ok
[17:18] <Kereltis> and try for a post on omgubuntu and maybe iheartubuntu
[17:19] <c7p_> so i'll resent the mail to authors
[17:19] <c7p_> and then we'll wait one week
[17:19] <hannie> yes
[17:19] <Kereltis> yes
[17:19] <herat> yes
[17:20] <hannie> c7p_, perhaps you can ask them if they would be so kind as to answer before next week
[17:20] <hannie> end of next wee
[17:20] <hannie> *week
[17:21] <c7p_> ok
[17:21] <c7p_> #action <c7p will contact oneiric authors to see if they want to maintain their section. Waiting time up to one week..>
[17:21] <meetingology> ACTION: <c7p will contact oneiric authors to see if they want to maintain their section. Waiting time up to one week..>
[17:22] <c7p_> is there anything else you want to discuss on this topic ?
[17:22] <Kereltis> no, that about covers it i think
[17:22] <hannie> no
[17:22] <herat> no
[17:23] <c7p_> now what topic goes next ?
[17:23] <hannie> Who will be in charge of index and glossary ?
[17:24] <c7p_> i think we can't set deadlines, there are only 3 authors here
[17:24] <c7p_> ok
[17:24] <hannie> too early for that
[17:24] <c7p_> #topic <Who will be in charge of index and glossary ?>
[17:24] <hannie> same goes for index/glossary. This is something that needs to be done at the end of the project
[17:25] <Kereltis> yes, we'll need to wait for more  people
[17:25] <herat> Kereltis:  agreed
[17:25] <hannie>     Complimentary content on the website, such as videos?
[17:26] <c7p_> i think this needs a person devoted to the index and glossary from the start
[17:26] <c7p_> we haven't set a person to do this job during oneiric series
[17:26] <hannie> Do you want to ask who wants to take care of index/glossary via the mailinglist?
[17:27] <c7p_> and generally index and glossary was kinda out of date
[17:27] <hannie> c7p_, I can do this if you like
[17:27] <c7p_> ok do it
[17:28] <hannie>     Complimentary content on the website, such as videos?
[17:28] <c7p_> #action <hannie will send a mail to the list in order to find out who is willing to maintain glossary and index>
[17:28] <meetingology> ACTION: <hannie will send a mail to the list in order to find out who is willing to maintain glossary and index>
[17:28] <hannie> Does this come from you, c7p_
[17:28] <c7p_> nope
[17:29] <hannie> I think it as no priority
[17:29] <c7p_> yap we need someone to present it
[17:29] <hannie> so, posponed?
[17:30] <c7p_> i think so
[17:30] <hannie> ok
[17:30] <Kereltis> ok
[17:30] <herat> ok
[17:30] <c7p_> is there anything else you want to discuss ?
[17:30] <hannie> next point on the agenda
[17:30] <hannie> Find new authors/editors/editor-in-chief/developers
[17:31] <hannie> We have talked about new authors. The same goes for editors, editor in chief and developers?
[17:31] <c7p_> #topic <Find new authors/editors/editor-in-chief/developers>
[17:31] <Kereltis> yes, give it a week
[17:31] <hannie> Try to find people through social media as from next week?
[17:32] <c7p_> i haven contacted only authors
[17:32] <Kereltis> yes, we start posting it everywhere
[17:32] <hannie> ok, by next week I suggest we start looking for the whole lot
[17:32] <Kereltis> yep
[17:32] <c7p_> i think Kevin is interested for the Editor in Chief position
[17:33] <hannie> oh, that is good news
[17:33] <c7p_> regarding developers we can't though an anounceent
[17:33] <c7p_> anouncement*
[17:33] <c7p_> first we have to see what the needs are
[17:34] <c7p_> what's our plans for the website
[17:34] <c7p_> as it was said on a previous meeting
[17:34] <c7p_> this issue is a whole meeting on its own :P
[17:34] <hannie> Who is going to decide what is needed
[17:35] <hannie> We might discuss about it on the mailing list
[17:35] <c7p_> ye of course
[17:35] <c7p_> and also we have to arrange a meeting only for this purpose
[17:36] <c7p_> ok anything else ?
[17:36] <hannie> Define tasks authors/editors
[17:37] <c7p_> who wrote this ?
[17:39] <c7p_> hannie ?
[17:39] <Kereltis> no idea, we can't really define tasks until we have more people
[17:39] <hannie> I did.
[17:39] <Kereltis> then we can assign editors to authors
[17:39] <hannie> Last week we decided authors are responsible for their chapter, screenshots included
[17:40] <hannie> I do not know if authors agree about this
[17:40] <Kereltis> agree
[17:40] <herat> agree
[17:40] <hannie> Kereltis, we can start discussing this with you and herat
[17:40] <hannie> I see that you have no objections to the plan
[17:41] <Kereltis> nope
[17:41] <herat> me neither
[17:41] <hannie> We can ask others if they agree via the list
[17:42] <c7p_> any other topics of discussion ?
[17:42] <hannie> Next meeting when?
[17:43] <Kereltis> a week from now?
[17:43] <c7p_> i don't know
[17:43] <hannie> c7p_, perhaps we need 2 weeks from now to give people some time
[17:43] <c7p_> i think it's better in 2 weeks
[17:44] <Kereltis> ok
[17:44] <herat> ok
[17:44] <c7p_> in the meanwhile we can discuss though the list
[17:44] <hannie> c7p_, will you arrange the agenda and doodle?
[17:44] <c7p_> for the next meeting ?
[17:44] <hannie> yes
[17:44] <c7p_> i'll do it yes
[17:45] <c7p_> ok
[17:45] <hannie> thanks
[17:45] <c7p_> #endmeeting
[17:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Apr  7 17:45:33 2012 UTC.
[17:45] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2012/ubuntu-manual.2012-04-07-17.09.moin.txt
[17:45] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2012/ubuntu-manual.2012-04-07-17.09.html
[17:45] <c7p_> thank you guys for coming
[17:45] <herat> I have a question:  fedora project has : http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html
[17:45] <herat> and ubuntu also has : http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/index.html
[17:45] <herat> Can't we use content of this project on ubuntu's doc website?
[17:46] <Kereltis> thanks guys
[17:46] <hannie> herat, the ubuntu docs already exists in Oneiric
[17:46] <hannie> thanks for coming, Kereltis
[17:47] <c7p_> hannie can you send the meeting minutes to the list ?
[17:47] <hannie> Yes, I will do that
[17:47] <herat> hannie: oh my bad didn't see it.
[17:47] <hannie> herat, about the docs: they are not meant for beginners like our manual is
[17:48] <hannie> of course you can also look into them as a beginner
[17:48] <c7p_> btw guys, you can start gathering content from now
[17:48] <herat> hannie: ok got the point. c7p_: That's a good idea.
[17:48] <c7p_> i think precise is quite stable now
[17:48] <hannie> c7p_, that is a good remark. I for one will do that
[17:49] <Kereltis> yep, i'm running 12.04
[17:49] <hannie> Kereltis, do you see much difference?
[17:49] <ajmontag> Hey guys, so I just volunteered to author/edit, I was wondering what the expectations are at this time for me, or am I just waiting for an assignment?
[17:49] <c7p_> oh great
[17:49] <hannie> hello ajmontag
[17:49] <hannie> I'll give you a link:
[17:50] <hannie> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMP-12-04-2ndMeeting
[17:50] <Kereltis> hi ajmontag
[17:50] <c7p_> ajmontag: what you can do is to follow our list and the meetings
[17:50] <Kereltis> Hannie, not really, a few little things like the video lense
[17:50] <c7p_> we'll announce the openings in a week from now
[17:51] <c7p_> so you'll be able to choose the section/chapter that you like
[17:51] <ajmontag> sounds good, just wanted to keep up to par. Thanks!
[17:51] <hannie> Kereltis, I think the step from Oneiric to Precise is not as big as from Natty to Oneiric
[17:51] <Kereltis> nope, but it is way faster on boot time
[17:53] <c7p_> @herat, Kereltis ajmontag: in this period you can play around with latex
[17:53] <meetingology> c7p_: Error: "herat," is not a valid command.
[17:53] <manualbot> c7p_: Error: "herat," is not a valid command.
[17:53] <c7p_> herat, Kereltis ajmontag: in this period you can play around with latex
[17:53] <Kereltis> ok
[17:54] <herat> yes
[17:54] <hannie> and gather material, of course
[17:54] <c7p_>  Style Guide: http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf
[17:54] <c7p_> kevin wrote this guide
[17:54] <hannie> the information about screenshots will be updated
[17:55] <c7p_> ajmontag: if you find latex too complicated you can submit your work in libreoffice document
[17:56] <c7p_> herat, Kereltis ajmontag: if you have any question post it to the list
[17:56] <ajmontag> I need to start using latex anyway :P
[17:57] <herat> c7p_:  ok
[17:57] <Kereltis> same here
[17:57] <c7p_> :P
[17:58] <c7p_> guys i got to go
[17:58] <c7p_> thanks for coming
[17:58] <Kereltis> same here, thanks all
[17:58] <c7p_> if you want anything post a mail to the list :)
[17:59] <Kereltis> see you at the next meeting
[17:59] <c7p_> cheers !
[17:59] <ajmontag> thanks, bye
[17:59] <herat> thanks bye guys.
[17:59] <hannie> bye herat Thanks for coming