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| excalibour | how do i know what port is mysql listening to? | 00:39 |
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| wdroberts | check '/etc/my.cnf' and run 'netstat -antp' | 00:40 |
| wdroberts | default is tcp/3306 | 00:41 |
| excalibour | thanx | 00:41 |
| excalibour | i m trying to install forum software on 10.10. What s the username for mysql format? user or user@pc ? | 00:44 |
| wdroberts | mysql uses the 'user'@'host' format, but web software will usually ask for them separately | 00:52 |
| excalibour | ty wdroberts, silly me, changed hostname from ubuntu to localhost and i m done :( | 00:52 |
| violinappren | Hello. What is the proper upstart command enable and disable services? in Lucid and Precise | 02:07 |
| violinappren | Editing /etc/init/*.conf is the proper way? | 02:15 |
| wdroberts | i'm not terribly familiar with upstart, but in ubuntu i generally use the update-rc.d command to control automatic startup of services in different runlevels. it edits the scripts in the /etc/rc#.d directories | 02:19 |
| violinappren | wdroberts: thanks, im reading the man page | 02:20 |
| delerium_ | Hi guys, I have a dedicated server and I have two friends seeking for web hosting. So Instead of setting up an apache vhost for them, and manage their thing (no time for that!) I thought of installing something like cPanel. Is there a free and great alternative to cPanel? Thx! | 02:39 |
| wdroberts | delerium_: webmin comes to mind | 03:04 |
| Rallias | Is there any way to have 2 separate instances of php fastcgi for different parts of my web site simultaneously on one server? | 03:35 |
| delerium_ | wdroberts: Thanks, I'll take a look at it. Appreciated. | 03:42 |
| SpamapS | Rallias: yes definitely | 03:59 |
| SpamapS | Rallias: just have them listen on different sockets/ports | 03:59 |
| Rallias | How would I modify my /etc/init.d/php-fcgi script to accomodate that? | 03:59 |
| SpamapS | Rallias: I'd recommend php5-fpm for this, it is now quite superior to php5-fastcgi and has a specific method for doing this | 04:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #975777 in cobbler (main) "cobbler 2.2.2-0ubuntu31 refuses to add apt repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975777 | 07:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #975781 in quota (main) "package quota 4.00-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975781 | 08:11 |
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| azert | hello | 11:40 |
| azert | i can't delete an mounted partition | 11:40 |
| azert | what is the command to able to delete a partition during the next reboot ? | 11:41 |
| pmatulis | azert: unmount it now and create a new filesystem on it | 11:45 |
| azert | ok, is it possible to transfer file over 54 Mo over Tftp ? | 11:46 |
| pmatulis | azert: dunno but why are you using TFTP? | 11:48 |
| azert | Trivial_File_Transfer_Protocol as it says just for file transfer | 11:49 |
| pmatulis | azert: dunno but why are you using TFTP? | 11:49 |
| azert | ok i understand | 11:49 |
| pmatulis | azert: maybe if you explain your situation someone can help better | 11:50 |
| azert | to transfer firmware | 11:50 |
| azert | pmatulis: is that enough? | 11:50 |
| JanC | azert: TFTP supports up to 4 GiB (unless your software only supports the old pre-1998 protocol version which only supports up to 32 MiB) | 11:51 |
| azert | how to check software version ? | 11:53 |
| Rapid2214 | azert: What software are you using? | 12:14 |
| Rapid2214 | dpkg -s <package> | 12:15 |
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| hazmat | utlemming, fwiw, i made some minor changes to fix the userdata passing issue with the lxc cloud template http://paste.ubuntu.com/918869/ | 14:07 |
| hazmat | unfortunately that even with that in place cloud-init refuses to run the full cloud-init module suite against it | 14:07 |
| hazmat | still trying to debug cloud-init wrt to that | 14:08 |
| hazmat | smoser, what actually runs the runcmd part? i see a handful of upstart confs for cloud init, and i've tried tracing through the code, but all i see it doing is writing out the cloud-init part | 14:08 |
| hazmat | never executing it | 14:08 |
| hazmat | er.. the cloud-config part | 14:09 |
| * patdk-lap gives apache2.4 a test on precise | 14:12 | |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #819329 in juju "Tests depend on AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID being set" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819329 | 14:48 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #975985 in openssh (main) "please start sshd as early as possible during boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975985 | 14:51 |
| itgeo | hello guys I installed a mail server iReadMail on my server, but i dont know why i can't send and received email to/from my gmail account | 15:58 |
| ikonia | where did you get ireadmail from ? | 16:00 |
| itgeo | from the official website | 16:02 |
| itgeo | eveything is working | 16:02 |
| itgeo | exaceopt that dont receive email when i send it with my server to my gmail | 16:02 |
| itgeo | hi guys i just install iReadMail as mail server on my ubuntu, i can receive mail only for users of my server. But I cant send an email to myself on my gmail account, or receive an email from my gmail account to my email server. Is there something that I had to setup ? | 16:41 |
| Doonz | hey guys, anyone here familiar with force10 networking switches? | 16:42 |
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| Doonz | http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130677305627&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_3469wt_881 <-- can someone tell me if this is a good buy to set up a 10gb backhaul network between 10 of my servers? | 17:03 |
| RoyK | Doonz: looks cheap enough | 17:16 |
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| RoyK | Doonz: but you might need media modules in addition to that | 17:16 |
| RoyK | no, wait, it's CX4 | 17:16 |
| RoyK | 10 servers all on 10G? | 17:17 |
| Doonz | yeah | 17:18 |
| Doonz | im just not sure how the 10gb switches work | 17:18 |
| RoyK | it's just a switch | 17:19 |
| RoyK | nothing fancy | 17:19 |
| Doonz | would it be the same as a unmanaged 1gbe switch? | 17:19 |
| RoyK | some of them have L3 support | 17:19 |
| RoyK | I *really* doubt you'll find a 10Gbps unmanaged switch | 17:19 |
| Doonz | yeah i dont need anything like that since its just a private backhaul between the servers | 17:19 |
| Doonz | RoyK yeah i figured that | 17:20 |
| RoyK | VLAN support can be nice if you want to split the switch somehow | 17:20 |
| Doonz | ive used managed before just nothing on the 10gbe level | 17:20 |
| RoyK | or LA support if you want to use two links at a time to get failover and better bandwidth | 17:20 |
| RoyK | it's the same thing | 17:21 |
| RoyK | it's just a switch | 17:21 |
| Doonz | kool | 17:21 |
| Doonz | i cant find anything on documentation on that switch but it looks like dell bought that company a few years back | 17:21 |
| Doonz | but a new switch from dell is 15k for that one | 17:21 |
| RoyK | dell sells a 24port SFP+ switch from Delta Electronics, same thing as Super Micro sells, for <$10k | 17:23 |
| Doonz | yeah this is for a temp setup while i work on a project so if i can keep cost as cheap as possible that mean mor emoney for me | 17:23 |
| RoyK | then just get that thing off ebay | 17:24 |
| RoyK | if it fails, well, it didn't cost too much :รพ | 17:24 |
| Doonz | im not a networking guy so i was looking for another opinion | 17:24 |
| Doonz | it only has to last 90 days or so | 17:25 |
| RoyK | networking is mostly about closed, black boxes, so you never really know what's inside, meaning you can gamble it works (read: buy something cheap) or you can pay for something you know works (read: get something that costs the same as a nice house) | 17:25 |
| Doonz | yeah like i said tho its only for about 90 days | 17:25 |
| RoyK | then I'd get that thing off ebay, if you can get it quickly ;) | 17:26 |
| Doonz | ill pay for next day shipping | 17:26 |
| RoyK | $5k for a 10G switch and eight 10G boards is rather cheap | 17:26 |
| Doonz | those cards are going from 200 - 600 on ebay | 17:27 |
| Doonz | brand new there 479 | 17:27 |
| RoyK | I have a few of those | 17:27 |
| Doonz | seem to be a good card | 17:28 |
| RoyK | "Switching fabric capacity of 480 Gbps and forwarding capacity of 360 Mpps" | 17:29 |
| Doonz | whats that mean | 17:29 |
| patdk-lap | 48GB/sec max, and 360M iops max | 17:30 |
| RoyK | meaning total switching capacity is 480Gbps, which is good (10G*2 per port), and that it can handle 360 million packets per seconds | 17:30 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap: I don't think "iops" is the right thing for a switch... | 17:31 |
| Doonz | cool | 17:31 |
| * Doonz is outta his league | 17:31 | |
| patdk-lap | royk, fcoe switch? | 17:31 |
| patdk-lap | fc switch? | 17:31 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap: ethernet switch | 17:31 |
| patdk-lap | ah | 17:31 |
| patdk-lap | iscsi switch? :) | 17:32 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap: no such thing... | 17:32 |
| Doonz | its being used to transfer large simulation packages between systems and time is money | 17:32 |
| patdk-lap | doonz, infiniband | 17:32 |
| patdk-lap | 40gbit per port :) | 17:33 |
| Doonz | not supported from the custom os | 17:33 |
| RoyK | "custom os"? | 17:34 |
| Doonz | its a freebsd modified os for running simulation packages for and ideas simulation package | 17:35 |
| Doonz | very small acl | 17:35 |
| Doonz | hcl* | 17:35 |
| Doonz | and of course they have a sweet deal with the hardware vendors. Nothing lik ebuying a dell server at 1000000000% markup | 17:37 |
| RoyK | what do you use this for? | 17:38 |
| Doonz | its used for process simulation | 17:46 |
| RoyK | k | 17:47 |
| RoyK | large datasets? | 17:47 |
| RoyK | (since you need 10Gbps) | 17:47 |
| Doonz | 4 - 5 TB | 17:47 |
| RoyK | what do you use for storage? | 17:47 |
| Doonz | pcie ssd cards | 17:48 |
| RoyK | nothing like zfs for a large storage pool? | 17:48 |
| Doonz | yeah i have two large file servers | 17:49 |
| RoyK | !define large :) | 17:50 |
| ubottu | RoyK: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 17:50 |
| patdk-lap | poor ubottu | 17:51 |
| Doonz | http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E26-R1400U.cfm x 4 with 2TB ent drives | 17:51 |
| RoyK | on linux? | 17:51 |
| Doonz | freenas actually | 17:51 |
| * RoyK uses openindiana | 17:52 | |
| Doonz | come sept im going to be re doing my comeplete set up | 17:52 |
| Doonz | i started out on my own 2 years ago with only a few small projects | 17:53 |
| RoyK | I'd recommend something on native ZFS | 17:53 |
| RoyK | and I have close to half a petabyte net space on zfs now | 17:53 |
| Doonz | but now ive surpassed that so im looking at moving thigs into colo | 17:53 |
| Doonz | Royk nice | 17:53 |
| Doonz | im also looking at moving into blade systems as well because of the density factor | 17:54 |
| RoyK | striped mirrors where we need it, raidz2 on backup stuff, and raidz3 for secondary backup | 17:54 |
| Doonz | cool | 17:54 |
| RoyK | and lots of neat SSDs to do our bidding for caching | 17:55 |
| Doonz | yeah my wifes pissed at me cause of the set up in our basement and the fact that im out of power drops at home | 17:55 |
| RoyK | lol | 17:55 |
| Doonz | like i said i never intended on getting this much work | 17:56 |
| RoyK | how much storage is it you need on this? | 17:56 |
| RoyK | 10-20TB? 100? | 17:56 |
| Doonz | but ive gotten a few large customers now who really like the work i do and my next project wont start until Jan of 2013 | 17:56 |
| Doonz | im going to be going to around the 500TB usuable mark here | 17:57 |
| Doonz | but ive gotten such a mismash of systems that need to be consolidated upgraded decomissioned | 17:58 |
| patdk-lap | how exactly do you run out of power drops? | 17:58 |
| RoyK | if you go for zfs, keep in mind that adding new VDEVs (that is, more drives, instead of replacing small drives with bigger ones), will result in a badly balanced pool | 17:58 |
| Doonz | only have 100amp service to the house | 17:58 |
| patdk-lap | oh, that is like nothing :( | 17:58 |
| Doonz | to get 200amp service i have to upgrade my service from the curb at $30k | 17:59 |
| patdk-lap | yuk | 17:59 |
| Doonz | so there is a dc not to far away from me so im looking at 2 46u racks | 17:59 |
| RoyK | 100amp on 230V is like 23kW, sufficient to heat rather a lot | 17:59 |
| Doonz | my basement is refered to as the sahara | 17:59 |
| Doonz | :/ | 17:59 |
| RoyK | hey, you could sell heat :D | 18:00 |
| Doonz | SWEET Lunch time | 18:00 |
| Doonz | bb in 45 | 18:00 |
| patdk-lap | a full rack, loaded with disks, will use like 15amps at 230v | 18:00 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap: a full rack with disks is like 252 or 462 or perhaps 500 drives | 18:02 |
| RoyK | patdk-lap: meaning 1PB minus redundancy, meaning rather a lot :p | 18:03 |
| RoyK | or 2PB with New And Fine Four Terabyte Drives | 18:03 |
| patdk-lap | I figured 480 disks | 18:04 |
| patdk-lap | ah, ok, 16amps :) | 18:07 |
| patdk-lap | 8watts per disk, 480 disk, 230v | 18:08 |
| patdk-lap | work fine for my setup | 18:08 |
| patdk-lap | I install two 5kva ups, rack is good for 24amps at 240v | 18:08 |
| patdk-lap | assuming 2tb disks, that is like 900gb | 18:09 |
| patdk-lap | 10.4amps if you use the 5400rpm disks :) | 18:20 |
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| Doonz | im back | 18:38 |
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| itgeo | hi guys i just install iRedMail as mail server on my ubuntu, i can receive mail only for users of my server. But I cant send an email to myself on my gmail account, or receive an email from my gmail account to my email server. Is there something that I had to setup ? | 19:10 |
| qman__ | DNS | 19:12 |
| qman__ | you need an MX record on the internet pointing to your server as the mail server for your domain, and you need to make sure you're not on a blacklist | 19:12 |
| qman__ | no one can send you mail without the MX record, and most people won't accept mail from you without it to prevent spam | 19:13 |
| itgeo | i used the SPF to put my info | 19:13 |
| itgeo | but what am I suppose to put in MX record, because in the SPF file i have "v=spf1 a mx ptr mx:mydomaine.com include:mydomain.com -all" | 19:16 |
| qman__ | the MX record contains a priority number, and the IP of the server accepting the mail | 19:17 |
| qman__ | lower numbers are higher priority | 19:18 |
| qman__ | should be something like yourdomain.com IN MX 10 1.2.3.4 | 19:18 |
| qman__ | also keep in mind that DNS can take up to 48 hours to propogate | 19:19 |
| qman__ | and check your IP for blacklists on mxtoolbox | 19:19 |
| itgeo | I don't really have a file for this, i m using no-ip and my domaine name is with them. but when i clic on my hostname, i have mx record and mx priority | 19:20 |
| qman__ | you need a static IP address to run a mail server | 19:20 |
| itgeo | the first entry is mydomaine.com 5 | 19:20 |
| itgeo | not file but field*** | 19:21 |
| qman__ | and most mail services will block mail from services like no-ip | 19:21 |
| qman__ | because it's usually used by spammers | 19:21 |
| itgeo | awww :S | 19:21 |
| qman__ | domains are cheap, get you one | 19:22 |
| itgeo | i have 1 domaine | 19:22 |
| itgeo | i moved it to no-ip | 19:22 |
| itgeo | because with my ISP i have a dynamic IP | 19:22 |
| qman__ | can't run a mail server on a dynamic IP | 19:23 |
| itgeo | well what i did is I install noip2 on my ubuntu server to get access from outside of my home to my webserver | 19:23 |
| qman__ | also, many residential ISPs silently block mail traffic to prevent spam | 19:23 |
| itgeo | my ISP allow me 1 server of each kind | 19:24 |
| itgeo | i can run only 1 mail server, 1 webserver, I setup the fowarding from my modem | 19:24 |
| qman__ | you can't run a mail server on a dynamic IP | 19:24 |
| qman__ | it must be static | 19:25 |
| itgeo | ohhh ok ok | 19:25 |
| qman__ | even if your IP doesn't change very often, each time it does you'd suffer a day or two mail outage, and that's only if people would even accept mail from you in the first place, which they won't | 19:25 |
| itgeo | there is no solution for that ? | 19:26 |
| qman__ | get a static IP | 19:27 |
| qman__ | if you can't, get a VPS and run your mail server there | 19:27 |
| qman__ | if you can't afford either of those and you just need one account, get a gmail account and configure your server to send mail through that | 19:28 |
| patdk-lap | qman__, it's invalid to use an ip address in a mx line | 19:29 |
| itgeo | I already have a gmail account, but i was using my email@mydomaine.com too :S and since I move it to noip2 i dont have my email working :S | 19:29 |
| itgeo | I had to choice 40$/year or install a mailserver | 19:29 |
| qman__ | my ISP charges $4/mo for a static IP | 19:30 |
| patdk-lap | hmm, arin is charging me 3.2c per month per ip | 19:31 |
| itgeo | oh thats cool, I ll ask to my ISP how much it will cost me for a static | 19:31 |
| qman__ | it gets better value if you buy more, but just one on one business internet account, it's an extra $4 | 19:32 |
| itgeo | well I don't thing I have arin here, I m from Quebec. I m using bell | 19:32 |
| patdk-lap | itgeo, you have arin :) but you probably won't be dealing with them | 19:32 |
| patdk-lap | arin is where you go to get your own ip addresses | 19:33 |
| patdk-lap | my isp wants to rape me for a static ip | 19:33 |
| patdk-lap | they want $15 per ip | 19:33 |
| patdk-lap | plus upgrade to business account, for a $150 a month | 19:33 |
| patdk-lap | ontop of the $150 a month I already pay | 19:34 |
| itgeo | thats what I m afraid lol the 150$/month | 19:34 |
| guntbert | !ot | 19:34 |
| patdk-lap | and that only gets me 1mbit up, and 5mbit down | 19:34 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 19:34 |
| patdk-lap | guntbert, last I knew, setting up static ip on ubuntu was ontopic | 19:35 |
| guntbert | patdk-lap: sure, but talking about how much an ISP charges ?? | 19:36 |
| patdk-lap | still ontopic as far as I'm concerned | 19:37 |
| patdk-lap | he was concerned about the price | 19:38 |
| qman__ | maybe a little gray but it's discussing options to get his mail on ubuntu, directly accessory | 19:38 |
| itgeo | he is telling me the differents possibilities | 19:39 |
| itgeo | so with a static IP it should work ? | 19:56 |
| patdk-lap | with a static ip you have a hope in making it work :) | 20:00 |
| patdk-lap | you will need to configure your reverse dns and forward dns correctly | 20:00 |
| patdk-lap | and also setting up your server correctly | 20:00 |
| patdk-lap | so others don't automatically mark you as a spammer | 20:00 |
| itgeo | i just made a check up with mxtoolbox.com my ip is not on the blacklist and everything look good | 20:02 |
| itgeo | but do i have to mention a value for a and ptr ? | 20:02 |
| patdk-lap | you will want to check reputation sites | 20:03 |
| patdk-lap | more than blacklists | 20:03 |
| itgeo | actually my reputation is neutral | 20:08 |
| itgeo | what is the difference between a VPS and a hosting webserver ? | 20:24 |
| qman__ | itgeo, Shared web hosting only gives you access to certain features, usually through a web panel. VPS gives you a whole server under your control, but it runs in a virtual envornment on shared hardware. Dedicated server gives you an actual hardware server under your control. | 20:30 |
| itgeo | qman__: thank you :).. I ve never heard about VPS before. And the prices are interesting | 20:32 |
| qman__ | itgeo, the idea is to give you the features and control of a dedicated server, without the steep price, the cost being reduced performance and resources | 20:34 |
| pacemkr | hello. i have a question about the init system. i see that there is both sysv init ssh in /etc/rc2.d and an upstart job ssh.conf in /etc/init. shouldn't one be enough? don't they conflict? | 21:52 |
| qman__ | pacemkr, there is only upstart, but upstart still has a sysv mode where it manages sysv style scripts for compatibility | 22:39 |
| qman__ | the one in rc?.d is usually a notice of how it has been moved to upstart and to use that instead | 22:39 |
| pacemkr | qman__: i dont know if it matters, but im on 10.04 LTS and both files have startup procedures for sshd | 22:40 |
| pacemkr | and upstart starts rc.d | 22:40 |
| qman__ | I just checked on a lucid server and I don't have any ssh scripts in rc.d | 22:42 |
| pacemkr | hmm. this is on a linode image, maybe they put it there.... | 22:43 |
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