=== foo__ is now known as virusuy === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:39] how do i know what port is mysql listening to? === Arc_ is now known as a5m0 [00:40] check '/etc/my.cnf' and run 'netstat -antp' [00:41] default is tcp/3306 [00:41] thanx [00:44] i m trying to install forum software on 10.10. What s the username for mysql format? user or user@pc ? [00:52] mysql uses the 'user'@'host' format, but web software will usually ask for them separately [00:52] ty wdroberts, silly me, changed hostname from ubuntu to localhost and i m done :( [02:07] Hello. What is the proper upstart command enable and disable services? in Lucid and Precise [02:15] Editing /etc/init/*.conf is the proper way? [02:19] i'm not terribly familiar with upstart, but in ubuntu i generally use the update-rc.d command to control automatic startup of services in different runlevels. it edits the scripts in the /etc/rc#.d directories [02:20] wdroberts: thanks, im reading the man page [02:39] Hi guys, I have a dedicated server and I have two friends seeking for web hosting. So Instead of setting up an apache vhost for them, and manage their thing (no time for that!) I thought of installing something like cPanel. Is there a free and great alternative to cPanel? Thx! [03:04] delerium_: webmin comes to mind [03:35] Is there any way to have 2 separate instances of php fastcgi for different parts of my web site simultaneously on one server? [03:42] wdroberts: Thanks, I'll take a look at it. Appreciated. [03:59] Rallias: yes definitely [03:59] Rallias: just have them listen on different sockets/ports [03:59] How would I modify my /etc/init.d/php-fcgi script to accomodate that? [04:01] Rallias: I'd recommend php5-fpm for this, it is now quite superior to php5-fastcgi and has a specific method for doing this [07:46] New bug: #975777 in cobbler (main) "cobbler 2.2.2-0ubuntu31 refuses to add apt repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975777 [08:11] New bug: #975781 in quota (main) "package quota 4.00-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975781 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === bitmonk_ is now known as bitmonk [11:40] hello [11:40] i can't delete an mounted partition [11:41] what is the command to able to delete a partition during the next reboot ? [11:45] azert: unmount it now and create a new filesystem on it [11:46] ok, is it possible to transfer file over 54 Mo over Tftp ? [11:48] azert: dunno but why are you using TFTP? [11:49] Trivial_File_Transfer_Protocol as it says just for file transfer [11:49] azert: dunno but why are you using TFTP? [11:49] ok i understand [11:50] azert: maybe if you explain your situation someone can help better [11:50] to transfer firmware [11:50] pmatulis: is that enough? [11:51] azert: TFTP supports up to 4 GiB (unless your software only supports the old pre-1998 protocol version which only supports up to 32 MiB) [11:53] how to check software version ? [12:14] azert: What software are you using? [12:15] dpkg -s === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|afk [14:07] utlemming, fwiw, i made some minor changes to fix the userdata passing issue with the lxc cloud template http://paste.ubuntu.com/918869/ [14:07] unfortunately that even with that in place cloud-init refuses to run the full cloud-init module suite against it [14:08] still trying to debug cloud-init wrt to that [14:08] smoser, what actually runs the runcmd part? i see a handful of upstart confs for cloud init, and i've tried tracing through the code, but all i see it doing is writing out the cloud-init part [14:08] never executing it [14:09] er.. the cloud-config part [14:12] * patdk-lap gives apache2.4 a test on precise [14:48] New bug: #819329 in juju "Tests depend on AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID being set" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819329 [14:51] New bug: #975985 in openssh (main) "please start sshd as early as possible during boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975985 [15:58] hello guys I installed a mail server iReadMail on my server, but i dont know why i can't send and received email to/from my gmail account [16:00] where did you get ireadmail from ? [16:02] from the official website [16:02] eveything is working [16:02] exaceopt that dont receive email when i send it with my server to my gmail [16:41] hi guys i just install iReadMail as mail server on my ubuntu, i can receive mail only for users of my server. But I cant send an email to myself on my gmail account, or receive an email from my gmail account to my email server. Is there something that I had to setup ? [16:42] hey guys, anyone here familiar with force10 networking switches? === koolhead17|afk is now known as koolhead17 [17:03] http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130677305627&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_3469wt_881 <-- can someone tell me if this is a good buy to set up a 10gb backhaul network between 10 of my servers? [17:16] Doonz: looks cheap enough === apw is now known as apw_ === apw_ is now known as cafetiere === cafetiere is now known as apw [17:16] Doonz: but you might need media modules in addition to that [17:16] no, wait, it's CX4 [17:17] 10 servers all on 10G? [17:18] yeah [17:18] im just not sure how the 10gb switches work [17:19] it's just a switch [17:19] nothing fancy [17:19] would it be the same as a unmanaged 1gbe switch? [17:19] some of them have L3 support [17:19] I *really* doubt you'll find a 10Gbps unmanaged switch [17:19] yeah i dont need anything like that since its just a private backhaul between the servers [17:20] RoyK yeah i figured that [17:20] VLAN support can be nice if you want to split the switch somehow [17:20] ive used managed before just nothing on the 10gbe level [17:20] or LA support if you want to use two links at a time to get failover and better bandwidth [17:21] it's the same thing [17:21] it's just a switch [17:21] kool [17:21] i cant find anything on documentation on that switch but it looks like dell bought that company a few years back [17:21] but a new switch from dell is 15k for that one [17:23] dell sells a 24port SFP+ switch from Delta Electronics, same thing as Super Micro sells, for <$10k [17:23] yeah this is for a temp setup while i work on a project so if i can keep cost as cheap as possible that mean mor emoney for me [17:24] then just get that thing off ebay [17:24] if it fails, well, it didn't cost too much :þ [17:24] im not a networking guy so i was looking for another opinion [17:25] it only has to last 90 days or so [17:25] networking is mostly about closed, black boxes, so you never really know what's inside, meaning you can gamble it works (read: buy something cheap) or you can pay for something you know works (read: get something that costs the same as a nice house) [17:25] yeah like i said tho its only for about 90 days [17:26] then I'd get that thing off ebay, if you can get it quickly ;) [17:26] ill pay for next day shipping [17:26] $5k for a 10G switch and eight 10G boards is rather cheap [17:27] those cards are going from 200 - 600 on ebay [17:27] brand new there 479 [17:27] I have a few of those [17:28] seem to be a good card [17:29] "Switching fabric capacity of 480 Gbps and forwarding capacity of 360 Mpps" [17:29] whats that mean [17:30] 48GB/sec max, and 360M iops max [17:30] meaning total switching capacity is 480Gbps, which is good (10G*2 per port), and that it can handle 360 million packets per seconds [17:31] patdk-lap: I don't think "iops" is the right thing for a switch... [17:31] cool [17:31] * Doonz is outta his league [17:31] royk, fcoe switch? [17:31] fc switch? [17:31] patdk-lap: ethernet switch [17:31] ah [17:32] iscsi switch? :) [17:32] patdk-lap: no such thing... [17:32] its being used to transfer large simulation packages between systems and time is money [17:32] doonz, infiniband [17:33] 40gbit per port :) [17:33] not supported from the custom os [17:34] "custom os"? [17:35] its a freebsd modified os for running simulation packages for and ideas simulation package [17:35] very small acl [17:35] hcl* [17:37] and of course they have a sweet deal with the hardware vendors. Nothing lik ebuying a dell server at 1000000000% markup [17:38] what do you use this for? [17:46] its used for process simulation [17:47] k [17:47] large datasets? [17:47] (since you need 10Gbps) [17:47] 4 - 5 TB [17:47] what do you use for storage? [17:48] pcie ssd cards [17:48] nothing like zfs for a large storage pool? [17:49] yeah i have two large file servers [17:50] !define large :) [17:50] RoyK: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:51] poor ubottu [17:51] http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E26-R1400U.cfm x 4 with 2TB ent drives [17:51] on linux? [17:51] freenas actually [17:52] * RoyK uses openindiana [17:52] come sept im going to be re doing my comeplete set up [17:53] i started out on my own 2 years ago with only a few small projects [17:53] I'd recommend something on native ZFS [17:53] and I have close to half a petabyte net space on zfs now [17:53] but now ive surpassed that so im looking at moving thigs into colo [17:53] Royk nice [17:54] im also looking at moving into blade systems as well because of the density factor [17:54] striped mirrors where we need it, raidz2 on backup stuff, and raidz3 for secondary backup [17:54] cool [17:55] and lots of neat SSDs to do our bidding for caching [17:55] yeah my wifes pissed at me cause of the set up in our basement and the fact that im out of power drops at home [17:55] lol [17:56] like i said i never intended on getting this much work [17:56] how much storage is it you need on this? [17:56] 10-20TB? 100? [17:56] but ive gotten a few large customers now who really like the work i do and my next project wont start until Jan of 2013 [17:57] im going to be going to around the 500TB usuable mark here [17:58] but ive gotten such a mismash of systems that need to be consolidated upgraded decomissioned [17:58] how exactly do you run out of power drops? [17:58] if you go for zfs, keep in mind that adding new VDEVs (that is, more drives, instead of replacing small drives with bigger ones), will result in a badly balanced pool [17:58] only have 100amp service to the house [17:58] oh, that is like nothing :( [17:59] to get 200amp service i have to upgrade my service from the curb at $30k [17:59] yuk [17:59] so there is a dc not to far away from me so im looking at 2 46u racks [17:59] 100amp on 230V is like 23kW, sufficient to heat rather a lot [17:59] my basement is refered to as the sahara [17:59] :/ [18:00] hey, you could sell heat :D [18:00] SWEET Lunch time [18:00] bb in 45 [18:00] a full rack, loaded with disks, will use like 15amps at 230v [18:02] patdk-lap: a full rack with disks is like 252 or 462 or perhaps 500 drives [18:03] patdk-lap: meaning 1PB minus redundancy, meaning rather a lot :p [18:03] or 2PB with New And Fine Four Terabyte Drives [18:04] I figured 480 disks [18:07] ah, ok, 16amps :) [18:08] 8watts per disk, 480 disk, 230v [18:08] work fine for my setup [18:08] I install two 5kva ups, rack is good for 24amps at 240v [18:09] assuming 2tb disks, that is like 900gb [18:20] 10.4amps if you use the 5400rpm disks :) === sergevn is now known as zz_sergevn === zz_sergevn is now known as sergevn [18:38] im back === sergevn is now known as zz_sergevn === zz_sergevn is now known as sergevn [19:10] hi guys i just install iRedMail as mail server on my ubuntu, i can receive mail only for users of my server. But I cant send an email to myself on my gmail account, or receive an email from my gmail account to my email server. Is there something that I had to setup ? [19:12] DNS [19:12] you need an MX record on the internet pointing to your server as the mail server for your domain, and you need to make sure you're not on a blacklist [19:13] no one can send you mail without the MX record, and most people won't accept mail from you without it to prevent spam [19:13] i used the SPF to put my info [19:16] but what am I suppose to put in MX record, because in the SPF file i have "v=spf1 a mx ptr mx:mydomaine.com include:mydomain.com -all" [19:17] the MX record contains a priority number, and the IP of the server accepting the mail [19:18] lower numbers are higher priority [19:18] should be something like yourdomain.com IN MX 10 1.2.3.4 [19:19] also keep in mind that DNS can take up to 48 hours to propogate [19:19] and check your IP for blacklists on mxtoolbox [19:20] I don't really have a file for this, i m using no-ip and my domaine name is with them. but when i clic on my hostname, i have mx record and mx priority [19:20] you need a static IP address to run a mail server [19:20] the first entry is mydomaine.com 5 [19:21] not file but field*** [19:21] and most mail services will block mail from services like no-ip [19:21] because it's usually used by spammers [19:21] awww :S [19:22] domains are cheap, get you one [19:22] i have 1 domaine [19:22] i moved it to no-ip [19:22] because with my ISP i have a dynamic IP [19:23] can't run a mail server on a dynamic IP [19:23] well what i did is I install noip2 on my ubuntu server to get access from outside of my home to my webserver [19:23] also, many residential ISPs silently block mail traffic to prevent spam [19:24] my ISP allow me 1 server of each kind [19:24] i can run only 1 mail server, 1 webserver, I setup the fowarding from my modem [19:24] you can't run a mail server on a dynamic IP [19:25] it must be static [19:25] ohhh ok ok [19:25] even if your IP doesn't change very often, each time it does you'd suffer a day or two mail outage, and that's only if people would even accept mail from you in the first place, which they won't [19:26] there is no solution for that ? [19:27] get a static IP [19:27] if you can't, get a VPS and run your mail server there [19:28] if you can't afford either of those and you just need one account, get a gmail account and configure your server to send mail through that [19:29] qman__, it's invalid to use an ip address in a mx line [19:29] I already have a gmail account, but i was using my email@mydomaine.com too :S and since I move it to noip2 i dont have my email working :S [19:29] I had to choice 40$/year or install a mailserver [19:30] my ISP charges $4/mo for a static IP [19:31] hmm, arin is charging me 3.2c per month per ip [19:31] oh thats cool, I ll ask to my ISP how much it will cost me for a static [19:32] it gets better value if you buy more, but just one on one business internet account, it's an extra $4 [19:32] well I don't thing I have arin here, I m from Quebec. I m using bell [19:32] itgeo, you have arin :) but you probably won't be dealing with them [19:33] arin is where you go to get your own ip addresses [19:33] my isp wants to rape me for a static ip [19:33] they want $15 per ip [19:33] plus upgrade to business account, for a $150 a month [19:34] ontop of the $150 a month I already pay [19:34] thats what I m afraid lol the 150$/month [19:34] !ot [19:34] and that only gets me 1mbit up, and 5mbit down [19:34] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [19:35] guntbert, last I knew, setting up static ip on ubuntu was ontopic [19:36] patdk-lap: sure, but talking about how much an ISP charges ?? [19:37] still ontopic as far as I'm concerned [19:38] he was concerned about the price [19:38] maybe a little gray but it's discussing options to get his mail on ubuntu, directly accessory [19:39] he is telling me the differents possibilities [19:56] so with a static IP it should work ? [20:00] with a static ip you have a hope in making it work :) [20:00] you will need to configure your reverse dns and forward dns correctly [20:00] and also setting up your server correctly [20:00] so others don't automatically mark you as a spammer [20:02] i just made a check up with mxtoolbox.com my ip is not on the blacklist and everything look good [20:02] but do i have to mention a value for a and ptr ? [20:03] you will want to check reputation sites [20:03] more than blacklists [20:08] actually my reputation is neutral [20:24] what is the difference between a VPS and a hosting webserver ? [20:30] itgeo, Shared web hosting only gives you access to certain features, usually through a web panel. VPS gives you a whole server under your control, but it runs in a virtual envornment on shared hardware. Dedicated server gives you an actual hardware server under your control. [20:32] qman__: thank you :).. I ve never heard about VPS before. And the prices are interesting [20:34] itgeo, the idea is to give you the features and control of a dedicated server, without the steep price, the cost being reduced performance and resources [21:52] hello. i have a question about the init system. i see that there is both sysv init ssh in /etc/rc2.d and an upstart job ssh.conf in /etc/init. shouldn't one be enough? don't they conflict? [22:39] pacemkr, there is only upstart, but upstart still has a sysv mode where it manages sysv style scripts for compatibility [22:39] the one in rc?.d is usually a notice of how it has been moved to upstart and to use that instead [22:40] qman__: i dont know if it matters, but im on 10.04 LTS and both files have startup procedures for sshd [22:40] and upstart starts rc.d [22:42] I just checked on a lucid server and I don't have any ssh scripts in rc.d [22:43] hmm. this is on a linode image, maybe they put it there.... === sergevn is now known as zz_sergevn === zz_sergevn is now known as sergevn