[07:24] <andrejz> hi kelemengabor, do you know what is the status of nightmonkey.ubuntu.hu. From my limited testing it seems nightmonkey's database of strings is not up to date
[07:25] <trijntje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/899895
[07:27] <andrejz> thx trijntje
[07:27] <kelemengabor> andrejz: right, it is out of work unfortunately
[07:28] <andrejz> what about the usage? are ddtp translations now used (because i know they weren't at some point)
[07:31] <kelemengabor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/504821
[07:31] <kelemengabor> this is the underlying bug
[07:31] <kelemengabor> so the bzr export does not work, which would be used by nightmonkey
[07:33] <andrejz> but this is only true for universe or all packages?
[07:34] <kelemengabor> and I'm afraid that it is used for the actual translation files generation, but I have not checked
[07:36] <andrejz> ok
[07:37] <andrejz> do you happen to know what is the status of gnoem documents translations ? https://translations.launchpad.net/teliute/gnome3.4
[07:37] <andrejz> does this gnome docs get included in ubuntu?
[07:39] <kelemengabor> this? certainly not. what is this teliute project?
[07:40] <andrejz> i don't know
[07:40] <kelemengabor> gnome-user-docs is packaged verbatim, as it comes from upstream
[07:40] <andrejz> that's why i am asking. I was browsing through which project i should suggest to a new translator and found it by chance
[07:41] <kelemengabor> and we know the story of ubuntu-docs, and there is nothing else I know of
[07:41] <andrejz> ok thanks
[07:42] <andrejz> kelemengabor seems like export is working
[07:42] <andrejz> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-precise/revision/63
[07:44] <andrejz> it seems like universe.po files are being exported regularly
[07:45] <kelemengabor> andrejz: have you translated something in precise main since mid-march?
[07:45] <kelemengabor> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-precise/changes/63?start_revid=63
[07:46] <andrejz> no, not really
[07:46] <andrejz> i am planning to start and am wondering if it makes any sense
[07:48] <trijntje> kelemengabor: is the developer of nightmonkey aware that a problem in launchpad is causing bug 899895?
[07:48] <kelemengabor> hm, may be that is works again... some time ago it had not exported anything aside from a few po files per day when there was more changed
[07:50] <kelemengabor> oh, yeah: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-precise/revision/24 looks like it started to work at this revision :)
[07:50] <andrejz> cool, now we just need to stop getting timeouts when using nightmonkey and we might be going somewhere :)
[07:51] <kelemengabor> trijntje: no, I don't think so. but I'll ping him
[07:51] <andrejz> note timeouts acutally occur on launchpad site
[07:55] <trijntje> kelemengabor: thanks! I'd do it myself but I dont understand the problem ;)
[08:11] <iceroot> hi
[08:11] <iceroot> when i translate directly in launchpad, no review is needed (member of translation group) when i upload a po-file a review is needed. is that a bug?
[08:12] <iceroot> https://translations.launchpad.net/lxkeymap/trunk/+imports
[08:12] <yurchor> iceroot: Just wait for some hours. It will be reviewed and imported automatically. ;)
[08:14] <iceroot> ah, automated, ok :)
[08:14] <iceroot> no the next question, not all items on lxkeymap are shown in the LP-template (e.g. the menu-headers) what is the correct way to report that? a LP bug? an upstream-bug?
[08:14] <iceroot> or is there another method?
[08:15] <yurchor> The menu headers can be from Gtk.
[08:16] <iceroot> but its strange that "help" is not translated then, guess its a common item which should be handled y gtk then
[08:16] <yurchor> If they were translated elsewhere (check LC_MESSAGES), then you have to report the bug.
[08:16] <yurchor> Download the source and inspect it.
[08:17] <iceroot> yurchor: the lxkeymap source?
[08:17] <iceroot> or the gtk-source?
[08:17] <yurchor> Surely lxkeymap source.
[08:17] <iceroot> :) ok, i will have a look
[08:18] <iceroot> #: ../data/ui/LxkeymapWindow.ui.h:8
[08:18] <iceroot> msgid "_Help"
[08:18] <iceroot> msgstr ""
[08:18] <iceroot> hm, is _Help the menu-item?
[08:19] <yurchor> Yes.
[08:19] <iceroot> which is shwon as "Help"
[08:19] <yurchor> _ is an accelerator.
[08:20] <yurchor> or keyboard shortcut hint if you wish.
[08:20] <iceroot> ah great, then everything is fine and its in the template. thank you for the info
[08:20] <yurchor> np.
[08:26] <iceroot> ok my translation if complete then. after it was imported into trunk/branche will it automaticly hit the current stable after some time? or the unstable (12.04? or "just 12.10?
[08:26] <yurchor> This project series is sharing translations with lxkeymap in Ubuntu Precise.
[08:27] <yurchor> So 12.04 only.
[08:28] <iceroot> still when 12.04 is released and something is added? or then only 12.10?
[08:28] <andrejz> yes, but if it's sharing temlate with precise, precise is sharing it with all future versions in ubuntu
[08:28] <andrejz> so it will be used for 12.10 too due to message sharing
[08:30] <iceroot> sorry for all the questions but https://translations.launchpad.net/hardinfo  can you give me a hint there?
[08:32] <yurchor> iceroot: hardinfo is not designed for translation. Please report bug against it on the project bug tracker.
[08:33] <yurchor> There is no translation markup in the code.
[08:33] <iceroot> http://wiki.hardinfo.org/BugReports :) 404
[08:33] <iceroot> i will search the bug-tracker and open the bug there, thanks for the info
[08:34] <yurchor> iceroot: http://bugs.hardinfo.org/
[08:34] <yurchor> Please register first. Only the registered users can report bugs
[08:35] <iceroot> i will do so, i will open 2 LP bugs (urls in the menu wrong, translation not possile) and link them to the two upstream-bugs i will create
[09:03] <iceroot> and the next one
[09:03] <iceroot> https://translations.launchpad.net/lxinput
[09:04] <iceroot> what does that mean? that the complete package is not managed with launchpad?
[09:05] <iceroot> ah ok, apt-get source lxinput is telling me that it is managed with git and not LP
[09:21] <iceroot> is the .desktop-file ALWAYS translated directly in the desktop-file? or is it normally done with a po-file too? all i cases i found are directly in the desktop-file. so a (debdiff) patch is needed?
[09:25] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-installer/+bug/975814  hope this is the correct way, next step would e a debdiff
[10:09] <gotwig> hey
[10:09] <gotwig> kelemengabor: jo :-)
[10:10] <kelemengabor> hi gotwig
[10:11] <gotwig> kelemengabor: may I PM you?
[10:12] <kelemengabor> is there something secret? :)
[10:23] <gotwig> kelemengabor: oh yes
[10:23] <gotwig> :D
[20:49] <jono> hey all
[20:50] <jono> would anyone be interested in helping with Ubuntu Accomplishments translations
[20:50] <jono> more info at http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/04/07/translation-help-needed-how-to-translate-ubuntu-accomplishments/