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AprogasMy wireless works when KDE has loaded, but before that the loading screen saying "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". How do I make my wireless during that stage of booting?01:18
AprogasI'm running Kubuntu 12.04 beta 2 with an encrypted LVM, loaded via unencrypted /boot01:18
DaskreechAprogas: wicd01:30
AprogasShould I uninstall kde-network-manager?01:31
DaskreechI tink you would install wicd-kde01:33
AprogasYes, but should I also uninstall kde-network-manager to replace it with wicd?01:33
Daskreecherm.. I think so01:34
DaskreechI forget the interactions now01:34
DaskreechI know that wicd and NM don't work together01:34
Daskreechbut I don't know if kde-network-manager is a direct link to NM or it speaks to lower channels and just manages whatever is underneath01:35
AprogasI was confused. I meant plasma-widget-networkmanagement. I also have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed which I shall remove.01:37
AprogasThe plasma-widget depends on network-manager01:37
Daskreech?me has to run01:45
ybitno bouncy cursors!02:53
ybitwho's with me!02:53
ybitbouncy cursors look dated, they are a continual reminder that my computer or distro is slow02:55
AprogasSystem Settings > Application and System Notifications > Launch Feedback02:55
ybityes i know02:55
ybiti'm wondering where i can complain and have something done :)02:56
ybitjust trying to help kubuntu02:56
ybitwhere are these decisions made?02:56
ybiti haven't used them in so long, but i recall that i once had them bouncing when they shouldn't be bouncing02:57
ybitso they are another point of failure that can be removed02:57
ybitDaskreech!02:59
ronnoc_ybit: KDE has come along way if that's all you've to bitch about :)03:28
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ronnocybit: are you saying bouncy cursors went the way of the paperclip? in that case I agree. File a bug!03:29
ronnocIt's lineage can be traced back to when apps took a long time to load...to keep your attention that the system was "working on it". ...I think.03:31
ybitronnoc: i'm wondering where you file bugs for kubuntu...03:32
ybitor should this be kde03:32
ybitbecause i can do bugs.kde.org03:33
ybitronnoc: actually there's much more to complain about, but i figure this is one where others agree with me :)03:33
ronnocybit: To KDE. Bugs to Kubuntu are mainly only for packaging issues.03:33
ronnocand yea lol03:34
ybitronnoc: packaging issues?03:34
ronnocthe pulse-glass cursor ricks03:35
ybitis there a specific site on launchpad dedicated to kubuntu?03:35
* ybit can dig around03:35
ronnocya03:35
ronnocybit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa03:36
ScaroDjNow that you're already at it, I wonder where should I go for a Bluetooth "glitch?" (A2DP interrupts on mouse movement)03:38
ybithttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa :: no bugs, that's good news!03:38
ybitthere's hardly any info there it seems03:39
* ronnoc thinks Kubuntu should have either it's own branding / KDE-spashscreen-wallpaper-icon-plasma themes or we should all file at bugs.kde.org. As much as I love 4.8.2, it looks like it belongs in a hospital environment 03:39
ybitmember photos, whee!03:39
ronnocScaroDj: That's a bluedevil issue, right? If then it would fo to KDE03:40
ybiti like it better than 4.703:40
ronnocybit: Maybe, but Ku needs identity now more than ever03:40
ybitchange the name then!03:40
ronnoc*fo=to03:40
ScaroDjronnoc: Umm... Isn't it Bluez?03:41
ybitokay, maybe a name change is the wrong suggestion :)03:41
ScaroDjUbuntu, the K way? :P jeje03:41
ronnocScaroDj: it is.03:41
ybiti just want to know where i can voice my complaints03:41
ScaroDjOK03:42
ronnocybit: I'm listening03:42
ybitronnoc: for what?03:42
ybitoh right03:42
ronnocybit: your complaints lol03:42
ybiti'm looking for something like bugs.launchpad.net03:42
* ronnoc goes to get a Yuengling whilst ybit vents03:42
ybitspecifically for kubuntu03:43
ybiteh, sure, if you consider venting trying to type and carry a rl conversation at the same time03:44
ybitwhere's the design team for kubuntu?03:44
ybitpeople who make sure the user experience dosn't suck03:46
ybitdoesn't*03:46
ybithi phunyguy03:46
ybitwb ronnoc03:47
ronnoc_ybit: bad internets :/03:49
ronnoc_ty03:49
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DaskreechHi phunyguy04:05
XabsterSo... pretty new to KDE... what's that "this folder is empty" window that starts automatically with nothing in it?04:08
ybithi Xabster04:24
Xabsterhi04:24
ybitif you put your mouse over that widget, you should see something pop out to the side of it04:24
Xabsterright04:24
ybitit's a little bar with buttons on it04:24
Xabsteryep04:24
ybitif you click the tool icon, you can configure which folder to show there04:25
ybiti usually set it to /home/heath/04:25
ybitno need for a Desktop folder imho :)04:25
Xabsterah just a sort of quick link to a folder04:31
Xabsteri removed it =)04:31
ronnocXabster: Or you can drag it into a cool to taskbar like this : http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/dequire/The%20Blue%20Mint/759873b7.png04:33
Xabstercool04:34
Xabsteri started the 300 updates but it's stuck at 43%04:38
DaskreechXabster: Or a remote computer04:38
Xabsterthere's 2 windows open and i can't get the 2nd one to the top to see it04:39
Xabsteri think it's some sort of confirmation of something04:39
DaskreechXabster: or something like a search for all files with a certain property04:39
Xabsterit says PolicyKit1 something something04:39
Xabsterand i can't reboot, moun-updater cancels my attempts04:44
DaskreechXabster: you can't logout?04:48
Xabsteronly tried shutdown, sec04:48
Xabsternope, that b0rked it even more04:49
Xabsternow it's at 50% brigthness04:49
Xabsterit's in a virtual box if thats a known issue04:50
Xabsternow the software manager segfaults and wont load...04:59
DaskreechXabster: Can You open a konsole?05:00
Xabsterrestarting again, let me try05:01
Xabsterwhat do you want me to do?05:01
ybitronnoc: what's the widget on the top of the window in your photobucket link?05:02
DaskreechXabster: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:03
ybitXabster experience with 300 downloads is the exact expereince i described in the devel channel a few mins ago05:04
Xabstersays dpkg was interrupted and i have to fix it manually05:06
Xabsterwhen i do update05:06
Xabstersame with upgrade05:06
Xabsterrunning the command it suggested.... seems to do some stuff auto05:07
DaskreechXabster: The command suggested will work05:09
Xabstercool, it's doing a lot of stuff and it takes a while05:09
DaskreechXabster: When you run an upgrade before it starts it makes a note of all the things that should be done to make sure that the upgrade can happen at all05:09
DaskreechXabster: If something breaks the upgrade (power loss or you shutting down) it rebuilds the list of things to be done checks what has been done and completes the rest of the steps05:10
ronnocybit: It's the Folder View set to show the Desktop05:12
ybitstrange05:13
ybitvery neat though :)05:13
ronnocI just dragged it to a position to my liking and made sure the shortcuts I wanted were on my Desktop :)05:13
ronnocoh and got a cool icon set. that helps/05:13
ybitgenialous!05:14
Xabsterwait, the sudo apt-get upgrade... does that give me 12.04?05:14
ronnocXabster: no05:14
Xabsteroki05:14
ybitXabster: ignore what i'm about to say05:15
ybiti've always thought that you should dist-upgrade before doing upgrade05:15
ybit(thoughts? new findings?)05:15
ybitmy stuff broke less this route05:15
DaskreechXabster: no it asks about that05:16
Daskreechand it takes a lot longer than that :)05:16
ybitfor some reason i had the functionality of dist-upgrade and upgrade confused05:17
ronnocybit: How long have you been using Linux, if you don't mind my asking05:19
ybithaving said all of this wasted my night away, probably time for a rest05:19
ybitproductivity tomorrow!05:19
ybit1998?...05:19
ybitrh6 or 705:19
ybitor 805:19
ybitsomewhere around there05:19
ybiti cared about this at some point in my life05:19
ybitmy beginnings with linux05:19
ronnocybit: cool. no reason for my asking other than sheer curiosity.05:20
ybiti do still have the first article i ever saw in the new york times talking about red hat05:21
ybitwelcome anjilslaire05:21
ybitanywho, productivity tomorrow!05:21
* ybit waves gn05:21
Daskreechybit: dist-upgrade upgrades you to a new distro (In theory)05:22
Daskreechthe real difference Is upgrade will not uninstall any packages and dist-upgrade will05:23
DaskreechXabster: Still going?05:25
Xabsteri did all the updates except when i started the update manager again, 3 more shows05:27
Xabsterdoing those now05:27
Xabsterthen reboot, then we'll see05:27
Xabster100 mb download or so in 25 seconds :)05:28
Xabsterhardly noticed it05:28
DaskreechXabster: Alright :)05:28
Xabster\o/05:28
ronnocXabster: Shhh you Euro......lucky guy :D05:30
* ronnoc hobbles waiting for kubuntuforums.net to load 05:31
* ronnoc turns on Dream Theater to ease the pain of waiting05:32
Xabsterwidgets... widgets everywhere05:33
DaskreechXabster: fantastic eh?05:50
Xabsternot sure05:53
DaskreechXabster: What are the disadvantages?05:56
Xabsteri never use widgets05:56
DaskreechWell you are using the Desktop. It's pretty much a widget05:57
Xabsterright, but you know what i mean05:57
Daskreech;-)05:57
DaskreechIt's neat in that you can get lots of peculiar functionality pretty easy05:58
DaskreechI like the pastebin widget for example06:00
Xabsteri'll check them out06:01
Xabstera pastebin widget might be pretty cool06:01
Xabsterit looks a lot like i remember opensuse06:01
Xabsteris that totally off?06:01
DaskreechHopefully not :)06:05
Daskreech they both use KDE06:05
Daskreechand despite how much people like to fight over distros there really isn't a lot of differences between them06:05
ManDayHow do I authorize a specific program (kopete) to get free access to the wallet?08:09
ManDayCurrently, Kubuntu asks for the wallet/keyring-password every time kopete starts08:10
ManDaywhich is slightly annoying08:10
ManDaynvm i got my answer08:21
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doa有谁编译过一个微内核叫做l4ka08:49
rork!cn | doa09:25
ubottudoa: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:25
AprogasI switched plasma-widget-networkmanagement (which relies on NetworkManager) for wicd-kde, but during boot I still get a "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration", unless I plug in ethernet. How do I make my wireless configuration system-wide and load before the graphical environment? (Kubuntu 12.04 beta 2)10:50
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macgyverhallo zusammen11:26
BluesKajHowdy folks11:32
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TrivialUserWhile updating system Muon stopped at 50% in getting ready libimobiledevice. Any ideas? Sorry for my bad english.12:12
TrivialUser*libimobiledevice212:12
lordievaderTrivialUser, Try updating through the terminal, perhaps that solves things12:14
TrivialUserHow to set Muon-updater off?12:15
BluesKajTrivialUser, close muon , and don't use for updates anymore because it's buggy , open a konsole and do, sudo dpkg --configure -a , if there are no errors , therewon't be any output , then do, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then do, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:15
lordievaderTrivialUser, do what BluesKaj says :P12:16
TrivialUserOK, but how to switch it off?12:16
TrivialUser*close it?12:17
lordievaderyes12:17
TrivialUserHow to close it, I meant?12:17
kaddiHi,12:18
* mydogsnameisrudy wonders about the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:19
kaddii'm running kubuntu 11.10 and i'm having constant hard drive activity and the hard drive is running quite warm... is there a way i can find out what is constantly writing/reading from the hard drive?12:19
kaddii have 4Gb of RAM, so that shouldn't be the issue12:19
lordievaderTrivialUser, the normal x in the right hand corner no longer works?12:19
BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, it upgrades kde changes12:19
mydogsnameisrudykaddi: look in your system monitor see whats running12:19
TrivialUserNo.12:19
lordievaderOh well run a "sudo killall muon"12:20
kaddimydogsnameisrudy: how do i find out which is the one accessing the hard drive?12:20
mydogsnameisrudysystem monitor shows the usage12:21
kaddibut only of cpu and ram for me12:21
kaddinot hard drive12:21
TrivialUserOK, I just ended it through System monitor. Thanks to everyone!12:21
BluesKajTrivialUser, the updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon12:23
aguitelhow disable automatic check updates ?12:28
BluesKajaguitel, read my post above12:30
TrivialUser"sudo dpkg --configure -a" says something like "error: database of status of dpkg is blocked by another process".12:30
aguitelBluesKaj, what post ?12:30
BluesKajTrivialUser, thatmeans muon is still open12:31
kaddiaguitel: I'm guessing this one; [14:23] <BluesKaj> TrivialUser, the updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon12:32
mydogsnameisrudyyep that one12:32
TrivialUserBlueskaj, "sudo killall muon" says that process isn't found.12:32
kaddiit was posted before they joined.. :p So they would've had a hard time reading up ;p12:32
BluesKajTrivialUser, copy and paste this into the konsole , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:33
TrivialUserIs it possible to copy in Quassel IRC at all?12:34
BluesKajsorry aguitel , didn't see your join , updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon12:34
BluesKajTrivialUser,yes , I thik so , but I use konversation12:35
aguitelBluesKaj, kaddi thanks12:36
kaddiyw12:38
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* mydogsnameisrudy hates to see all the joins and quits ;)12:44
BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, sometimes it's helpful :)12:48
mydogsnameisrudyi understand ;)12:48
BluesKajok gotta reboot ,...got some testing to do ..biab12:49
TrivialUserAll commands of dpkg are replied by something like "E: Can't get access to lock fil/var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11:  resource is temporarily unavailable" and "Can't block the directory /var/cache/apt/archives/".12:56
aguitelBluesKaj, nepomuk need to be enable or is safe to disable it ?12:56
coldfire_you can quit muon by pressing Ctrl+ESC and then  select Muon  then   End process..12:56
aguitelin other way ,why need to be enable nepomuk ?12:58
TrivialUsercoldfire_, there isn't any Muon process.12:58
BluesKajaguitel, depends whether or not you use file indexing and kmail, when nepomuk is dome inexinmg it's normally idle , it usually, from what I can see, runs at startup until it finishes with any file changes.13:04
BluesKajindexing13:04
BluesKajso it should be safe to turn off if it's using a lot of cpu13:05
aguiteli am not using kmail13:06
TrivialUserOK, solved my problem.13:06
BluesKajdo you use nepomuk search , if not then you obviousy don't need it13:06
BluesKajaguitel,^13:07
aguitel iam not using nepomuk search13:07
aguiteland what about akonadi ?13:08
BluesKajsame thing aguitel13:09
aguitelok ,how disable this services ?13:10
aguiteli am in system settings--service manager13:10
aguiteli cannot see akonadi13:11
BluesKajaguitel, system settings>startup&shutdown>service manager , chose nepomuk service stop , then add nepomuk , akonadi , to the textbox in session management, "applications to be excluded" , also check the 'restore previous session' button.13:13
aguitelBluesKaj, how to add this service ? :nepomuk,akonadi or nepomuk  ,  akonadi ?13:16
BluesKajsession management13:17
aguitelneed space or only comma13:17
BluesKajboth, comma then space13:17
aguitela ok13:17
aguitelBluesKaj, i restart13:18
aguitelthanks13:18
BluesKajaguitel, open kmenu type akonadi , thenchoose  akonadi server and stop it13:19
* BluesKaj is surprised how easy kmail was to set up , after the clean install got rid of corrupted config files in mysql and akonadi13:38
mydogsnameisrudyso you dont use akonadi at all?13:48
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BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, with kmail you have to use akonadi , they're tied together13:52
mydogsnameisrudyhmm ok so your just configing it then?13:53
BluesKajit's automatic , once you start seting up kmail akonadi is linked as the email server thru the kmail email setup whether it's imap or pop3 or whatever settings you need to make it work13:55
mydogsnameisrudyok  i did have a bit of trouble setting up my gmail account , but works now13:55
BluesKajactually akonadi isn't a server so much as a database that links to the email server like gmail13:56
BluesKajaltho akonadi is called a server in kmenu13:57
mydogsnameisrudyit will not setup gmail automatic have to load all the settings manually13:57
BluesKajyup, same went for my pop3 ISP email account13:57
BluesKajI had to de-link those 2 accts from each other, because I was receiving double emails14:00
BluesKajbut now , I'm thinking of saving important emails on the external backup drive14:01
mydogsnameisrudymy kmail is kind of weard its stuck on a day last week when it starts up14:02
BluesKajsurely that isn't your last email message14:03
mydogsnameisrudyno14:03
mydogsnameisrudyevery time i open it , that day opens14:04
mydogsnameisrudythink ill delete that day see what it will do14:05
BluesKajinterval email check is turned on ?14:05
mydogsnameisrudynot sure were to look for it14:06
BluesKajkmail settings>configure kmail>accts recieving>modify14:12
mydogsnameisrudyit is on14:13
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bluebirdthe startup takes a lot of time,how do i disable the unnecessary things?14:43
bluebirdanyone?14:45
L3topwhat do you consider unnecessary bluebird?14:47
bluebirdi have the printer and other things14:48
bluebirdi mean i dont need printer to be started14:49
bluebirdi can see them at service manager at system settings14:49
bluebirdbut im not sure about what all things to disable14:50
bluebirdshould i disable obexftp?14:51
bluebirdhttp://imagebin.org/20720914:55
bluebirdhere is my startup and help me to disable  the things that i wont need14:55
lordievaderbluebird, not sure if you are talking to someone, but why do you want to disable things?14:59
bluebirdso that i have a faster startup15:02
bluebirdit takes more time to load now15:02
lordievaderMost of these services are quite usefull, only thing I have disabled is the bluetooth module. Thought to disable the powermanager because I am on a desktop, but then my machine refused to go to sleep.15:03
bluebirdlordievader,  did you see the image?do i need kmixd,keyboard demon ,network manager?15:03
lordievaderbluebird, kmix is audio, if you don't use audio you can disable it, not sure what keyboard demon is but leave it on, network manager probably automatically connects to a network (wired or wireless) so unless you want to do it all manually I suggest leaving all it on.15:05
bluebirdokay15:05
bluebirdthose three looks necessary15:06
lordievaderMost of them are, it ain't windows :P15:06
bluebirdso what is obexftp, input action?15:06
lordievaderobex ftp seems to be related to bluetooth15:07
bluebirdthen i dont need that15:08
bluebirdas im on desktop15:08
lordievaderbluebird, input actions seems to do with hotkeys15:08
bluebirdlike?15:08
lordievaderalt + tab to switch windows or something15:09
bluebirdokay15:09
bluebirdi have search service running, do i need it?15:10
lordievaderbluebird, the nepomuk tingie? Do you use the search feature?15:11
bluebirdno15:11
lordievaderthen I guess you can turn it off, what kind of system are you running anyway?15:11
bluebirddo we  have anything like dxdiag here?15:12
bluebirdthe processor is little old15:13
lordievaderkinfocentre15:13
bluebird2 gb  ram,nvidia 720015:13
lordievaderOr something along those lines15:13
bluebirdis that a terminal  sommand?15:13
lordievaderNo, program name, can be found under System in the menu15:14
bluebirdi found it15:14
bluebirdamd athlon ii x2 4450e15:15
lordievaderbluebird, then we have a quite similar system, you did say it was performing slowly?15:16
bluebirdnot performing slowly15:16
bluebirdthe startup takes a little more time compared to ubuntu15:17
lordievaderbluebird, I see, hmm never compared it to ubuntu15:17
bluebirdand i also see these things running, that i dont use15:18
lordievaderbluebird, here is a guide on making ubuntu boot faster15:18
lordievaderhttp://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#removeSlow\15:18
lordievaderhttp://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#removeSlow15:18
bluebirdthanks for that15:19
bluebirdplease have a look at it http://imagebin.org/20721115:20
bluebirdthat blue thing says akonadi available15:21
bluebirdi guess i dont need it15:21
lordievaderI disabled that more or less, it was eating cpu with me while I dont use it... It is used for kmail and a few other things.15:21
lordievaderbluebird, Nice toolbar style, where did you get it from?15:22
bluebirdi guess i downloaded it from the settings15:23
lordievaderakonadi is standard installed15:23
bluebirdhow do i disable it?15:23
lordievaderI'm now looking how to actually disable it...15:23
bluebirdi will look  for the toolbar  name  if you want15:24
lordievaderbluebird, that would be very kind :)15:24
bluebirdits in the system settings > workspace appearance15:27
bluebirdand in the desktop theme15:28
bluebirdthe theme name is ghost15:28
bluebirdi have to go15:28
lordievaderThank you :)15:29
bluebirdthanks for the help15:29
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kubuntu1204_heldhi, i got a "little" problem with file associations in kubuntu12.04 a double klick on some xspf file (playlist created with vlc) will launch rekonq and not vlc has some else seen this?16:05
lordievaderkubuntu1204_held, for support on 12.04 you better go to #ubuntu+1 this channel is also for Kubuntu, I think they are better able to help you.16:06
kubuntu1204_heldI'll try that16:07
lordievaderkubuntu1204_held, good luck solving your problem!16:07
DarthFrogkubuntu1204_held:   System Settings / File Associations16:24
DarthFrogJust change the application preference order.  Add vlc if it's not already there.16:25
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avihayhow do I ask dpkg to resume installing packages it failed?17:23
BluesKajsudo dpkg --configure -a  ... if no errors , do sudo apt-get -f install17:24
avihaythanks BluesKaj if only the manpage was that clear about it...17:25
BluesKajavihay, it depends on the situation ..dependencies sometimes don't come down , make sure you use apt-get and not aptitude17:27
BluesKajavihay, and whatever you do don't use muon , it's still buggy17:28
avihayya, I know17:29
avihaytrying to install nvidia propriaty driver on another computer, fails at compile time :-<17:29
BluesKajgot  build-essential on that pc17:30
BluesKaj?17:30
BluesKajbest to compile graphics with kdm stopped at a tty17:31
sureshhello17:45
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lordievaderpyus13, hey17:46
pyus13i want to join android channel ...could u help me17:46
pyus13how to join it17:47
lordievaderwhat is the channel name?17:47
pyus13join #android17:47
pyus13android17:47
BluesKajpyus13, in the server textbox /join #android17:47
lordievaderthe join command is /join17:47
pyus13ok let me try thanks17:48
pyus13@lordievader thank got it17:49
pyus13:)17:50
lordievaderpyus13, no problem, glad I could help :)17:50
BluesKajpyus13, @ doesn't highlight on irc17:50
lordievaderBluesKaj, it does here :P17:51
BluesKajjust type the nick you want to address17:51
pyus13i m new in IRC17:51
BluesKajyeah he typed your nick , the @ isn't needed17:52
lordievadertrue, the nick alone is enough17:53
BluesKaj@ annoys some ppl , including me17:53
lordievaderBluesKaj, really why?17:55
BluesKajsubstuting symbols and numbers for real letters and words is annoying to me ...this isn't a bingo game :)17:56
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BluesKajbbl...stuff to do18:32
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seekerFactorykrunner crashing too frequently :( Using kubuntu 12.04 and kernel 3.0.0-16-generic18:50
liljensomeone know why im getting problem for booting kubuntu or ubuntu on a clean installed on a ssd ? if i install it on a  hdd its no problem, im getting a blinking "_" on boot18:51
liljensomeone know why im getting problem for booting kubuntu or kubuntu on a clean installed on a ssd ? if i install it on a  hdd its no problem, im getting a blinking "_" on boot18:59
seekerFactorykrunner crashing too frequently disabling desktop effects. on kubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.0.0-16-generic. Am I missing something19:11
DarthFrog!patience | seekerFactory19:11
ubottuseekerFactory: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.19:11
DarthFrogseekerFactory:  Also, support for 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1, not here.19:12
seekerFactoryoops. sorry just network going down hence repeated. will take care of it19:12
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kilo12vkoshello?21:02
Riddellhello!21:02
ap03hi21:04
kilo12vkosI am new to KDE need some help please21:04
kilo12vkoshello21:05
asfyxiakilo12vkos, maybe you should be more specific in what your problem is...21:07
Riddellkilo12vkos: just ask21:07
kilo12vkoscant get the flash player to install in Chromium21:08
kilo12vkosI know this is the kubuntu channel - couldnt get kubuntu to install yesterday so I installed SUSE(KDE) and cant see to get the flash player to install21:09
Riddellyou'll need to ask in a suse channel for help with suse21:11
kilo12vkosany idea what might have gone wrong on the Kububtu install I followed all directions let it do its thing - it rebooted took out the Live Media and I got nothing but a flashing cursor21:12
Riddellkilo12vkos: hmm that's the sort of nasty issue that's hard to debug over irc21:16
kilo12vkosIm thinking that my MBR was already hosed bc of GRUB from SUSE install...21:18
Roeyhey all, I'm getting "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: FolderChecker : Unsupported major.minor version 51."  for something I just compiled with "javac"... how can I diagnose?21:37
RoeyI asusme that javac and java are different JRE releases21:37
Roeybut I don't understand why, especially given how I installed them together (apt-get install java)21:37
L3topI assume javac is javas C like api21:43
Roeyjava compiler21:43
Roeythat's the compiler21:43
L3topah21:43
Roeyand "java" is the way you run it21:43
L3topjust guessing21:43
Roey(it's for an assignment.  I'm a python guy through and through myself)21:43
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Roeyhey why is java7's java installed in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java  but java6's javac installed in /usr/bin ?? why the mismatch???22:19
RiddellRoey: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 Mar 29 00:36 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java22:19
RoeyRiddell:  ls -l  /etc/alternatives/java22:23
Roeylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2010-05-02 01:41 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java22:23
Roeyagreed.22:23
Roeyahh22:24
RoeyRiddell:  when I compile with javac, it uses jre 7 though22:24
RoeyRiddell:  what is the proper way to execute jre 7's java? always specify /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java?22:25
RiddellRoey: or run update-alternatives to update22:26
RoeyRiddell:  ok.  What shoudl the update-alternatives line look like?22:27
RiddellRoey: I'm after i don't know22:31
Roeyerror: can't parse22:32
Roeycan you re-phrase?22:32
RiddellRoey: I'm afraid i don't know22:33
Roeyahh gotcha22:33
RoeyRiddell:  thanks though!22:33
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