[01:18] My wireless works when KDE has loaded, but before that the loading screen saying "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". How do I make my wireless during that stage of booting? [01:18] I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 beta 2 with an encrypted LVM, loaded via unencrypted /boot [01:30] Aprogas: wicd [01:31] Should I uninstall kde-network-manager? [01:33] I tink you would install wicd-kde [01:33] Yes, but should I also uninstall kde-network-manager to replace it with wicd? [01:34] erm.. I think so [01:34] I forget the interactions now [01:34] I know that wicd and NM don't work together [01:35] but I don't know if kde-network-manager is a direct link to NM or it speaks to lower channels and just manages whatever is underneath [01:37] I was confused. I meant plasma-widget-networkmanagement. I also have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed which I shall remove. [01:37] The plasma-widget depends on network-manager [01:45] ?me has to run [02:53] no bouncy cursors! [02:53] who's with me! [02:55] bouncy cursors look dated, they are a continual reminder that my computer or distro is slow [02:55] System Settings > Application and System Notifications > Launch Feedback [02:55] yes i know [02:56] i'm wondering where i can complain and have something done :) [02:56] just trying to help kubuntu [02:56] where are these decisions made? [02:57] i haven't used them in so long, but i recall that i once had them bouncing when they shouldn't be bouncing [02:57] so they are another point of failure that can be removed [02:59] Daskreech! [03:28] ybit: KDE has come along way if that's all you've to bitch about :) === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [03:29] ybit: are you saying bouncy cursors went the way of the paperclip? in that case I agree. File a bug! [03:31] It's lineage can be traced back to when apps took a long time to load...to keep your attention that the system was "working on it". ...I think. [03:32] ronnoc: i'm wondering where you file bugs for kubuntu... [03:32] or should this be kde [03:33] because i can do bugs.kde.org [03:33] ronnoc: actually there's much more to complain about, but i figure this is one where others agree with me :) [03:33] ybit: To KDE. Bugs to Kubuntu are mainly only for packaging issues. [03:34] and yea lol [03:34] ronnoc: packaging issues? [03:35] the pulse-glass cursor ricks [03:35] is there a specific site on launchpad dedicated to kubuntu? [03:35] * ybit can dig around [03:35] ya [03:36] ybit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa [03:38] Now that you're already at it, I wonder where should I go for a Bluetooth "glitch?" (A2DP interrupts on mouse movement) [03:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa :: no bugs, that's good news! [03:39] there's hardly any info there it seems [03:39] * ronnoc thinks Kubuntu should have either it's own branding / KDE-spashscreen-wallpaper-icon-plasma themes or we should all file at bugs.kde.org. As much as I love 4.8.2, it looks like it belongs in a hospital environment [03:39] member photos, whee! [03:40] ScaroDj: That's a bluedevil issue, right? If then it would fo to KDE [03:40] i like it better than 4.7 [03:40] ybit: Maybe, but Ku needs identity now more than ever [03:40] change the name then! [03:40] *fo=to [03:41] ronnoc: Umm... Isn't it Bluez? [03:41] okay, maybe a name change is the wrong suggestion :) [03:41] Ubuntu, the K way? :P jeje [03:41] ScaroDj: it is. [03:41] i just want to know where i can voice my complaints [03:42] OK [03:42] ybit: I'm listening [03:42] ronnoc: for what? [03:42] oh right [03:42] ybit: your complaints lol [03:42] i'm looking for something like bugs.launchpad.net [03:42] * ronnoc goes to get a Yuengling whilst ybit vents [03:43] specifically for kubuntu [03:44] eh, sure, if you consider venting trying to type and carry a rl conversation at the same time [03:44] where's the design team for kubuntu? [03:46] people who make sure the user experience dosn't suck [03:46] doesn't* [03:46] hi phunyguy [03:47] wb ronnoc [03:49] ybit: bad internets :/ [03:49] ty === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [04:05] Hi phunyguy [04:08] So... pretty new to KDE... what's that "this folder is empty" window that starts automatically with nothing in it? [04:24] hi Xabster [04:24] hi [04:24] if you put your mouse over that widget, you should see something pop out to the side of it [04:24] right [04:24] it's a little bar with buttons on it [04:24] yep [04:25] if you click the tool icon, you can configure which folder to show there [04:25] i usually set it to /home/heath/ [04:25] no need for a Desktop folder imho :) [04:31] ah just a sort of quick link to a folder [04:31] i removed it =) [04:33] Xabster: Or you can drag it into a cool to taskbar like this : http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/dequire/The%20Blue%20Mint/759873b7.png [04:34] cool [04:38] i started the 300 updates but it's stuck at 43% [04:38] Xabster: Or a remote computer [04:39] there's 2 windows open and i can't get the 2nd one to the top to see it [04:39] i think it's some sort of confirmation of something [04:39] Xabster: or something like a search for all files with a certain property [04:39] it says PolicyKit1 something something [04:44] and i can't reboot, moun-updater cancels my attempts [04:48] Xabster: you can't logout? [04:48] only tried shutdown, sec [04:49] nope, that b0rked it even more [04:49] now it's at 50% brigthness [04:50] it's in a virtual box if thats a known issue [04:59] now the software manager segfaults and wont load... [05:00] Xabster: Can You open a konsole? [05:01] restarting again, let me try [05:01] what do you want me to do? [05:02] ronnoc: what's the widget on the top of the window in your photobucket link? [05:03] Xabster: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [05:04] Xabster experience with 300 downloads is the exact expereince i described in the devel channel a few mins ago [05:06] says dpkg was interrupted and i have to fix it manually [05:06] when i do update [05:06] same with upgrade [05:07] running the command it suggested.... seems to do some stuff auto [05:09] Xabster: The command suggested will work [05:09] cool, it's doing a lot of stuff and it takes a while [05:09] Xabster: When you run an upgrade before it starts it makes a note of all the things that should be done to make sure that the upgrade can happen at all [05:10] Xabster: If something breaks the upgrade (power loss or you shutting down) it rebuilds the list of things to be done checks what has been done and completes the rest of the steps [05:12] ybit: It's the Folder View set to show the Desktop [05:13] strange [05:13] very neat though :) [05:13] I just dragged it to a position to my liking and made sure the shortcuts I wanted were on my Desktop :) [05:13] oh and got a cool icon set. that helps/ [05:14] genialous! [05:14] wait, the sudo apt-get upgrade... does that give me 12.04? [05:14] Xabster: no [05:14] oki [05:15] Xabster: ignore what i'm about to say [05:15] i've always thought that you should dist-upgrade before doing upgrade [05:15] (thoughts? new findings?) [05:15] my stuff broke less this route [05:16] Xabster: no it asks about that [05:16] and it takes a lot longer than that :) [05:17] for some reason i had the functionality of dist-upgrade and upgrade confused [05:19] ybit: How long have you been using Linux, if you don't mind my asking [05:19] having said all of this wasted my night away, probably time for a rest [05:19] productivity tomorrow! [05:19] 1998?... [05:19] rh6 or 7 [05:19] or 8 [05:19] somewhere around there [05:19] i cared about this at some point in my life [05:19] my beginnings with linux [05:20] ybit: cool. no reason for my asking other than sheer curiosity. [05:21] i do still have the first article i ever saw in the new york times talking about red hat [05:21] welcome anjilslaire [05:21] anywho, productivity tomorrow! [05:21] * ybit waves gn [05:22] ybit: dist-upgrade upgrades you to a new distro (In theory) [05:23] the real difference Is upgrade will not uninstall any packages and dist-upgrade will [05:25] Xabster: Still going? [05:27] i did all the updates except when i started the update manager again, 3 more shows [05:27] doing those now [05:27] then reboot, then we'll see [05:28] 100 mb download or so in 25 seconds :) [05:28] hardly noticed it [05:28] Xabster: Alright :) [05:28] \o/ [05:30] Xabster: Shhh you Euro......lucky guy :D [05:31] * ronnoc hobbles waiting for kubuntuforums.net to load [05:32] * ronnoc turns on Dream Theater to ease the pain of waiting [05:33] widgets... widgets everywhere [05:50] Xabster: fantastic eh? [05:53] not sure [05:56] Xabster: What are the disadvantages? [05:56] i never use widgets [05:57] Well you are using the Desktop. It's pretty much a widget [05:57] right, but you know what i mean [05:57] ;-) [05:58] It's neat in that you can get lots of peculiar functionality pretty easy [06:00] I like the pastebin widget for example [06:01] i'll check them out [06:01] a pastebin widget might be pretty cool [06:01] it looks a lot like i remember opensuse [06:01] is that totally off? [06:05] Hopefully not :) [06:05] they both use KDE [06:05] and despite how much people like to fight over distros there really isn't a lot of differences between them [08:09] How do I authorize a specific program (kopete) to get free access to the wallet? [08:10] Currently, Kubuntu asks for the wallet/keyring-password every time kopete starts [08:10] which is slightly annoying [08:21] nvm i got my answer === andy_ is now known as Guest67290 === Guest67290 is now known as andy23485495 [08:49] 有谁编译过一个微内核叫做l4ka [09:25] !cn | doa [09:25] doa: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [10:50] I switched plasma-widget-networkmanagement (which relies on NetworkManager) for wicd-kde, but during boot I still get a "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration", unless I plug in ethernet. How do I make my wireless configuration system-wide and load before the graphical environment? (Kubuntu 12.04 beta 2) === EyesIsServer is now known as EyesIsMine [11:26] hallo zusammen [11:32] Howdy folks === lindalou is now known as westmi [12:12] While updating system Muon stopped at 50% in getting ready libimobiledevice. Any ideas? Sorry for my bad english. [12:12] *libimobiledevice2 [12:14] TrivialUser, Try updating through the terminal, perhaps that solves things [12:15] How to set Muon-updater off? [12:15] TrivialUser, close muon , and don't use for updates anymore because it's buggy , open a konsole and do, sudo dpkg --configure -a , if there are no errors , therewon't be any output , then do, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then do, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [12:16] TrivialUser, do what BluesKaj says :P [12:16] OK, but how to switch it off? [12:17] *close it? [12:17] yes [12:17] How to close it, I meant? [12:18] Hi, [12:19] * mydogsnameisrudy wonders about the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? [12:19] i'm running kubuntu 11.10 and i'm having constant hard drive activity and the hard drive is running quite warm... is there a way i can find out what is constantly writing/reading from the hard drive? [12:19] i have 4Gb of RAM, so that shouldn't be the issue [12:19] TrivialUser, the normal x in the right hand corner no longer works? [12:19] mydogsnameisrudy, it upgrades kde changes [12:19] kaddi: look in your system monitor see whats running [12:19] No. [12:20] Oh well run a "sudo killall muon" [12:20] mydogsnameisrudy: how do i find out which is the one accessing the hard drive? [12:21] system monitor shows the usage [12:21] but only of cpu and ram for me [12:21] not hard drive [12:21] OK, I just ended it through System monitor. Thanks to everyone! [12:23] TrivialUser, the updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon [12:28] how disable automatic check updates ? [12:30] aguitel, read my post above [12:30] "sudo dpkg --configure -a" says something like "error: database of status of dpkg is blocked by another process". [12:30] BluesKaj, what post ? [12:31] TrivialUser, thatmeans muon is still open [12:32] aguitel: I'm guessing this one; [14:23] TrivialUser, the updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon [12:32] yep that one [12:32] Blueskaj, "sudo killall muon" says that process isn't found. [12:32] it was posted before they joined.. :p So they would've had a hard time reading up ;p [12:33] TrivialUser, copy and paste this into the konsole , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a [12:34] Is it possible to copy in Quassel IRC at all? [12:34] sorry aguitel , didn't see your join , updates can be unchecked in muon settings>configure muon [12:35] TrivialUser,yes , I thik so , but I use konversation [12:36] BluesKaj, kaddi thanks [12:38] yw [12:41] * BluesKaj turns on joins and quits [12:44] * mydogsnameisrudy hates to see all the joins and quits ;) [12:48] mydogsnameisrudy, sometimes it's helpful :) [12:48] i understand ;) [12:49] ok gotta reboot ,...got some testing to do ..biab [12:56] All commands of dpkg are replied by something like "E: Can't get access to lock fil/var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: resource is temporarily unavailable" and "Can't block the directory /var/cache/apt/archives/". [12:56] BluesKaj, nepomuk need to be enable or is safe to disable it ? [12:56] you can quit muon by pressing Ctrl+ESC and then select Muon then End process.. [12:58] in other way ,why need to be enable nepomuk ? [12:58] coldfire_, there isn't any Muon process. [13:04] aguitel, depends whether or not you use file indexing and kmail, when nepomuk is dome inexinmg it's normally idle , it usually, from what I can see, runs at startup until it finishes with any file changes. [13:04] indexing [13:05] so it should be safe to turn off if it's using a lot of cpu [13:06] i am not using kmail [13:06] OK, solved my problem. [13:06] do you use nepomuk search , if not then you obviousy don't need it [13:07] aguitel,^ [13:07] iam not using nepomuk search [13:08] and what about akonadi ? [13:09] same thing aguitel [13:10] ok ,how disable this services ? [13:10] i am in system settings--service manager [13:11] i cannot see akonadi [13:13] aguitel, system settings>startup&shutdown>service manager , chose nepomuk service stop , then add nepomuk , akonadi , to the textbox in session management, "applications to be excluded" , also check the 'restore previous session' button. [13:16] BluesKaj, how to add this service ? :nepomuk,akonadi or nepomuk , akonadi ? [13:17] session management [13:17] need space or only comma [13:17] both, comma then space [13:17] a ok [13:18] BluesKaj, i restart [13:18] thanks [13:19] aguitel, open kmenu type akonadi , thenchoose akonadi server and stop it [13:38] * BluesKaj is surprised how easy kmail was to set up , after the clean install got rid of corrupted config files in mysql and akonadi [13:48] so you dont use akonadi at all? === paolo is now known as paoligno === paoligno is now known as faLUCE [13:52] mydogsnameisrudy, with kmail you have to use akonadi , they're tied together [13:53] hmm ok so your just configing it then? [13:55] it's automatic , once you start seting up kmail akonadi is linked as the email server thru the kmail email setup whether it's imap or pop3 or whatever settings you need to make it work [13:55] ok i did have a bit of trouble setting up my gmail account , but works now [13:56] actually akonadi isn't a server so much as a database that links to the email server like gmail [13:57] altho akonadi is called a server in kmenu [13:57] it will not setup gmail automatic have to load all the settings manually [13:57] yup, same went for my pop3 ISP email account [14:00] I had to de-link those 2 accts from each other, because I was receiving double emails [14:01] but now , I'm thinking of saving important emails on the external backup drive [14:02] my kmail is kind of weard its stuck on a day last week when it starts up [14:03] surely that isn't your last email message [14:03] no [14:04] every time i open it , that day opens [14:05] think ill delete that day see what it will do [14:05] interval email check is turned on ? [14:06] not sure were to look for it [14:12] kmail settings>configure kmail>accts recieving>modify [14:13] it is on === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:43] the startup takes a lot of time,how do i disable the unnecessary things? [14:45] anyone? [14:47] what do you consider unnecessary bluebird? [14:48] i have the printer and other things [14:49] i mean i dont need printer to be started [14:49] i can see them at service manager at system settings [14:50] but im not sure about what all things to disable [14:51] should i disable obexftp? [14:55] http://imagebin.org/207209 [14:55] here is my startup and help me to disable the things that i wont need [14:59] bluebird, not sure if you are talking to someone, but why do you want to disable things? [15:02] so that i have a faster startup [15:02] it takes more time to load now [15:03] Most of these services are quite usefull, only thing I have disabled is the bluetooth module. Thought to disable the powermanager because I am on a desktop, but then my machine refused to go to sleep. [15:03] lordievader, did you see the image?do i need kmixd,keyboard demon ,network manager? [15:05] bluebird, kmix is audio, if you don't use audio you can disable it, not sure what keyboard demon is but leave it on, network manager probably automatically connects to a network (wired or wireless) so unless you want to do it all manually I suggest leaving all it on. [15:05] okay [15:06] those three looks necessary [15:06] Most of them are, it ain't windows :P [15:06] so what is obexftp, input action? [15:07] obex ftp seems to be related to bluetooth [15:08] then i dont need that [15:08] as im on desktop [15:08] bluebird, input actions seems to do with hotkeys [15:08] like? [15:09] alt + tab to switch windows or something [15:09] okay [15:10] i have search service running, do i need it? [15:11] bluebird, the nepomuk tingie? Do you use the search feature? [15:11] no [15:11] then I guess you can turn it off, what kind of system are you running anyway? [15:12] do we have anything like dxdiag here? [15:13] the processor is little old [15:13] kinfocentre [15:13] 2 gb ram,nvidia 7200 [15:13] Or something along those lines [15:13] is that a terminal sommand? [15:14] No, program name, can be found under System in the menu [15:14] i found it [15:15] amd athlon ii x2 4450e [15:16] bluebird, then we have a quite similar system, you did say it was performing slowly? [15:16] not performing slowly [15:17] the startup takes a little more time compared to ubuntu [15:17] bluebird, I see, hmm never compared it to ubuntu [15:18] and i also see these things running, that i dont use [15:18] bluebird, here is a guide on making ubuntu boot faster [15:18] http://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#removeSlow\ [15:18] http://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#removeSlow [15:19] thanks for that [15:20] please have a look at it http://imagebin.org/207211 [15:21] that blue thing says akonadi available [15:21] i guess i dont need it [15:21] I disabled that more or less, it was eating cpu with me while I dont use it... It is used for kmail and a few other things. [15:22] bluebird, Nice toolbar style, where did you get it from? [15:23] i guess i downloaded it from the settings [15:23] akonadi is standard installed [15:23] how do i disable it? [15:23] I'm now looking how to actually disable it... [15:24] i will look for the toolbar name if you want [15:24] bluebird, that would be very kind :) [15:27] its in the system settings > workspace appearance [15:28] and in the desktop theme [15:28] the theme name is ghost [15:28] i have to go [15:29] Thank you :) [15:29] thanks for the help === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox === kubuntu is now known as G4MBY === seeker is now known as Guest16480 [16:05] hi, i got a "little" problem with file associations in kubuntu12.04 a double klick on some xspf file (playlist created with vlc) will launch rekonq and not vlc has some else seen this? [16:06] kubuntu1204_held, for support on 12.04 you better go to #ubuntu+1 this channel is also for Kubuntu, I think they are better able to help you. [16:07] I'll try that [16:07] kubuntu1204_held, good luck solving your problem! [16:24] kubuntu1204_held: System Settings / File Associations [16:25] Just change the application preference order. Add vlc if it's not already there. === suresh is now known as pyus13 [17:23] how do I ask dpkg to resume installing packages it failed? [17:24] sudo dpkg --configure -a ... if no errors , do sudo apt-get -f install [17:25] thanks BluesKaj if only the manpage was that clear about it... [17:27] avihay, it depends on the situation ..dependencies sometimes don't come down , make sure you use apt-get and not aptitude [17:28] avihay, and whatever you do don't use muon , it's still buggy [17:29] ya, I know [17:29] trying to install nvidia propriaty driver on another computer, fails at compile time :-< [17:30] got build-essential on that pc [17:30] ? [17:31] best to compile graphics with kdm stopped at a tty [17:45] hello === suresh is now known as pyus13 [17:46] pyus13, hey [17:46] i want to join android channel ...could u help me [17:47] how to join it [17:47] what is the channel name? [17:47] join #android [17:47] android [17:47] pyus13, in the server textbox /join #android [17:47] the join command is /join [17:48] ok let me try thanks [17:49] @lordievader thank got it [17:50] :) [17:50] pyus13, no problem, glad I could help :) [17:50] pyus13, @ doesn't highlight on irc [17:51] BluesKaj, it does here :P [17:51] just type the nick you want to address [17:51] i m new in IRC [17:52] yeah he typed your nick , the @ isn't needed [17:53] true, the nick alone is enough [17:53] @ annoys some ppl , including me [17:55] BluesKaj, really why? [17:56] substuting symbols and numbers for real letters and words is annoying to me ...this isn't a bingo game :) === omar is now known as Shoruken [18:32] bbl...stuff to do === ubuntu___ is now known as liljen [18:50] krunner crashing too frequently :( Using kubuntu 12.04 and kernel 3.0.0-16-generic [18:51] someone know why im getting problem for booting kubuntu or ubuntu on a clean installed on a ssd ? if i install it on a hdd its no problem, im getting a blinking "_" on boot [18:59] someone know why im getting problem for booting kubuntu or kubuntu on a clean installed on a ssd ? if i install it on a hdd its no problem, im getting a blinking "_" on boot [19:11] krunner crashing too frequently disabling desktop effects. on kubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.0.0-16-generic. Am I missing something [19:11] !patience | seekerFactory [19:11] seekerFactory: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [19:12] seekerFactory: Also, support for 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1, not here. [19:12] oops. sorry just network going down hence repeated. will take care of it === artao is now known as artao_phone === artao_phone is now known as artao === artao is now known as artao_afk [21:02] hello? [21:02] hello! [21:04] hi [21:04] I am new to KDE need some help please [21:05] hello [21:07] kilo12vkos, maybe you should be more specific in what your problem is... [21:07] kilo12vkos: just ask [21:08] cant get the flash player to install in Chromium [21:09] I know this is the kubuntu channel - couldnt get kubuntu to install yesterday so I installed SUSE(KDE) and cant see to get the flash player to install [21:11] you'll need to ask in a suse channel for help with suse [21:12] any idea what might have gone wrong on the Kububtu install I followed all directions let it do its thing - it rebooted took out the Live Media and I got nothing but a flashing cursor [21:16] kilo12vkos: hmm that's the sort of nasty issue that's hard to debug over irc [21:18] Im thinking that my MBR was already hosed bc of GRUB from SUSE install... [21:37] hey all, I'm getting "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: FolderChecker : Unsupported major.minor version 51." for something I just compiled with "javac"... how can I diagnose? [21:37] I asusme that javac and java are different JRE releases [21:37] but I don't understand why, especially given how I installed them together (apt-get install java) [21:43] I assume javac is javas C like api [21:43] java compiler [21:43] that's the compiler [21:43] ah [21:43] and "java" is the way you run it [21:43]