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niemeyerHello jujuers13:18
smoserhazmat, i'm here now. it looks to me from your pastebin at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/918245/ that cloud-init ran the 'start', found the DS, and used it.14:16
smoserbut the cloud-config upstart job did not run14:16
smoserwhich is:14:16
smoser start on (filesystem and started rsyslog)14:17
SpamapShazmat: re your question about jitsu.. I like the idea of having a 'jitsu' command that is basically just the juju wrapper that already exists.. so it calls juju when jitsu doesn't have a command you pass it.14:56
SpamapSmaybe niemeyer should contribute to juju-jitsu, then it would be Brazilian Juju-Jitsu ;)14:59
niemeyer:)15:08
imbrandonjcastro: btw http://brandonholtsclaw.com/sites/default/files/domain-list.pdf I'm thinking cloudexamples.net will be a good place for "sure, just run juju deploy uber wordpress" etc15:25
imbrandonwhatduya thunk?15:25
gary_posterhazmat or To Whom It May Concern: my escapades trying to get Juju working on Canonical OpenStack continue.  We are now worse off than when I started, but better off than last week.  Current status is https://pastebin.canonical.com/63978/ if anyone has any input or suggestions; the text is from the pertinent RT, https://rt.admin.canonical.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=5077315:58
* hazmat joins in the adventure16:02
imbrandonhrm speaking of OpenStack, marcoceppi did you ever check to see about the s3 compat for hp swift containers ?16:06
marcoceppiimbrandon: I haven't checked since I first tried16:07
marcoceppitoo much other stuff going on16:07
imbrandonkk, np , just curious16:07
imbrandoni may dig in and learn the ways of the jedi16:07
imbrandonor try16:07
hazmatgary_poster, what version of juju are you using16:09
hazmatfwereade_, did you try juju with a private cloud with constraints?.. i'm getting errors on ec2-zone16:09
gary_posterhazmat, 0.5+bzr504-1juju4~precise116:10
* gary_poster gets lunch. biab16:13
hazmatgary_poster, thanks16:13
bkerensajcastro: You making juju stickers I hear?16:49
jcastrono16:49
jcastrothose are charm school stickers16:50
bkerensajcastro: ahh17:02
bkerensajcastro: kees's sbuild juju charm is pretty cool we got to use it when he wrote it17:10
hazmatgary_poster, since the private cloud is behind a firewall, you'll need to login to some machine where the client has access to the cluster.17:21
hazmatgary_poster, attaching the public ip address no longer changes the output of public ip address or public dns address17:21
gary_posterhazmat, that was not the case before, and preventing that restriction (the firewall) is the point of the RT.  The .canonistack dns names should be something we can configure once in .ssh/config and then juju wuld just work17:22
gary_posterwould17:22
hazmatgary_poster, yes17:23
hazmatit is different now, previously i could just attach a public ip to the bootstrap and work, but that is broken.. if the addresses/hostnames returned we're routable in some fashion that would also fix the problem17:23
hazmats/were17:24
hazmatwhere17:24
hazmat;-)17:24
gary_posterhazmat, :-) cool.  So you suspect that if I get the RT fixed (the second bullet point in my summary) then possibly the deployment would also work again (third bullet point)?17:25
gary_posterI was only pessimistic about this because the failure for my third bullet point was seemingly in canonistack itself17:25
gary_posterso it was not a connection failure but...something else, like the security problem you found last time17:26
hazmatgary_poster, hmm17:31
hazmatgary_poster, yeah.. just reviewd the RT in full17:31
hazmati'd like to think persistence pays off..17:32
gary_poster:-)17:32
hazmatwhat i find a little irksome is that previously attaching public ips would change the reported public address17:33
hazmatbut that appears to no longer be the case17:33
hazmatand is yet another minor incompatibility with ec2 behavior17:33
gary_posteryeah17:33
hazmati guess i should submit my patch for euca2ools nova compatibility17:34
gary_poster+1, if that is waiting in the wings, yeah :-)17:36
hazmatlooks like its already done.. but un-acted.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/euca2ools/+bug/89188917:36
_mup_Bug #891889: euca-describe-addresses fails with missing attribute on Address object when using boto < 2.1 <euca2ools:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/891889 >17:36
hazmatgary_poster, i don't really understand elmo's comment on that RT, what is juju supposed to do differently here when it doesn't have access to any accessible endpoint17:41
hazmatie. re fix juju17:41
hazmatgary_poster, so my recommends in a nutshell would be setting up on the bootstrap instance after logging into it.. or getting the chinstrap gateway setup when they attach a domain suffix to the hostname.17:42
gary_posterhazmat, re fix juju, I think my reply to him addressed his points.  There's not something for juju to fix, and there was a reasonable way to accommodate juju (*.canonistack resolving on chinstrap).  I will do as you suggest (set up on the bootstrap after logging into it) if I need to do canonistack, but my main goal is to push through the domain suffix thing, because I think that's going to be a win for every person who want17:46
gary_posters to use juju on canonistack..and we're hoping that's a decent number of people.17:46
gary_posterthanks17:46
hazmatgary_poster, thanks for keeping at it.. i totally agree this process should be easier for folks..  its probably worth a wiki page on how to setup locally that we can direct folks to17:54
gary_posterhazmat, yeah, that's my plan once it works.17:55
elmogary_poster: what are you talking about?18:05
_mup_juju/trunk r518 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com18:05
_mup_[trivial] fix for private clouds using ec2 api, ec2-zone and instance-type are still valid constraints18:05
gary_posterelmo, RT 50773, your comment https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=50773#txn-83846618:06
gary_posteror actually https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=50773#txn-83846618:07
gary_postereh same one, sorry, on call18:07
_mup_Bug #977481 was filed: Support private/public cloud spanning <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/977481 >19:34
_mup_Bug #977528 was filed: Relation membership for child relations should be cached before hook execution <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/977528 >20:37
_mup_juju/relation-hook-commands-spec r9 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com20:48
_mup_Updated per review comments20:48
marcoceppiCan charms have a "." in the name?21:11
bkerensamarcoceppi: surely jcastro knows21:16
bkerensa:D21:16
jcastroWe haven't said one way or the other21:16
marcoceppiI'll just omit the period then21:17
jcastrom_3: hey so, we have a charm on github: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/97755221:18
_mup_Bug #977552: Charm Needed: Terraria server <Juju Charms Collection:Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/977552 >21:18
jcastroideas for integrating/mirroring/whatever?21:18
marcoceppijcastro: you can setup a mirror repo on LP21:18
marcoceppiit pull from git every X mins21:18
marcoceppiI think imbrandon did that for the drupal charm21:19
jcastroI don't think asking people to mirror their stuff in lp will scale21:19
m_3jcastro: np, with only a few, I can pull manually22:33
m_3jcastro: still preliminary atm... just treat it as a normal charm submission... have him tag it with new-charm when it's ready for review22:37
m_3jcastro: the fact that it's on github doesn't matter until after it's accepted into the charm store... then we'll figure out MPs -vs- PRs when we cross that bridge22:39

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