| cjwatson | right, I think that's enough cross-build hacking for tonight | 01:13 |
|---|---|---|
| cjwatson | (db4.8, insserv, dpkg, shadow, iproute, doxygen, and gperf are all cross-build fixes, mostly for problems on http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/precise/sbuild-ma/status.html) | 01:15 |
| micahg | cjwatson: if you | 02:04 |
| * micahg fishes for infinity | 02:07 | |
| * ScottK starts reviewing the queue. | 02:27 | |
| ScottK | OK. Did the ones I think I understand. Left a few for whoever's up next. | 02:32 |
| micahg | infinity: cjwatson: unping | 06:48 |
| Laney | FYI, it's very possible that I won't be online this week: going to a caravan which may not have mobile signal to sustain internet. | 10:14 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: enjoy | 10:29 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2649463 — hmm :P | 10:35 |
| stgraber | Laney: isn't that the usual UK weather? :) | 10:36 |
| tumbleweed | and I thought we'd been having cold weather | 10:37 |
| Laney | it is a sterotypical british seaside holiday | 10:38 |
| * Laney heads off | 10:42 | |
| Laney | have a good week, and remember to NACK hard | 10:42 |
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| ScottK | Reviewing qt4-x11. | 11:55 |
| ScottK | And pushing out unseeded stuff. | 11:56 |
| ScottK | Now nfs-utils. | 12:07 |
| * ScottK will review networkmanagement once it gets diffy. | 13:45 | |
| jdstrand | skaet: hi! fyi, with all the MIRs going on, I took the liberty of adjusting the package mappings spreadsheet for of the 'unknown' ones in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html | 15:15 |
| skaet | thanks jdstrand. :) | 15:16 |
| jdstrand | skaet: I didn't do all of them or anything, but thought I'd mention it so you could prease whatever buttons to apply the spreadsheet to that page | 15:16 |
| jdstrand | press | 15:16 |
| skaet | :) | 15:16 |
| * skaet ^ wondering who's just done the accepts... | 16:08 | |
| skaet | jdstrand, new version of the spreadsheet has been uploaded, should be showing up on reports this afternoon. | 16:24 |
| ScottK | skaet: Did you see the mails on the release team list about the pad? | 16:24 |
| * skaet looking | 16:25 | |
| ScottK | skaet: I did the Universe ones. | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Since Unseeded Universe isn't frozen yet, I thought we didn't need to discuss them. | 16:25 |
| ScottK | The fact that they need approval at all is an artifact of LPs limitations and not policy. | 16:26 |
| skaet | thanks ScottK for handling. agree in general, just wasn't sure if banshee-community-extensions was seeded or not (cli-mono) | 16:27 |
| ScottK | cli-mono is an uploading packageset, not a seed for a flavor. | 16:27 |
| skaet | ok, all good then. | 16:28 |
| skaet | re: pad | 16:28 |
| skaet | yes, I encounter this as well. | 16:28 |
| skaet | seems to have been happening for at least a month, I encounter it on the ubuntu-release pad as well. | 16:28 |
| ScottK | I think it makes the use we've planned for it quite problematic | 16:29 |
| ScottK | You can check the pad and still not know if you've really checked it or not. | 16:29 |
| jbicha | it's that Ubuntu SSO proxy they put in front of the pad, I think I've had the timeout problem for months | 16:30 |
| skaet | I guess I've gotten into the habbit of clicking refresh on it. Although I agree its not ideal (by a long shot) | 16:30 |
| skaet | thanks jbicha, that would explain it. Do you know if there's an RT ticket about it? | 16:31 |
| jbicha | skaet: I haven't submitted an rt ticket and rt's not public | 16:37 |
| bjf | slangasek: when you pocket copied the kernel packages for me last week, everything seems to have gone to universe instead of main | 17:02 |
| jdstrand | skaet: thanks | 17:15 |
| skaet | ScottK, timeout behaviour has been tweeked by the sysadmins, let them know in #canonical-sysadmin if its still misbehaving for you. | 17:45 |
| ScottK | skaet: Thanks. | 17:49 |
| * ScottK looks at akonadi. | 17:54 | |
| skaet | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-prior-release-feedback | 17:55 |
| * ScottK looks at calligra. | 18:07 | |
| Riddell | jings ScottK, you're on the ball today :) | 18:10 |
| ScottK | :-) | 18:10 |
| ScottK | Waiting for the diff. | 18:10 |
| slangasek | skaet: so I've rejected the update-notifier with the broken source package build; but I've also seen that update-notifier-common is one of the packages leaving stale conffiles around on upgrade from lucid, per https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20Upgrade%20Testing%20Dashboard/job/precise-upgrade-lucid-desktop/ARCH=amd64,LTS=lts,PROFILE=ubuntu,label=upgrade-test/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/lts-ubuntu-amd64/obsolete_conffiles.lo | 18:14 |
| slangasek | skaet: so if it's alright with you, I'll fix that and include both changes when reuploading | 18:14 |
| ScottK | +1 | 18:15 |
| infinity | slangasek: Sounds reasonable to me. | 18:28 |
| * infinity goes back to pretending he's not here today. | 18:28 | |
| slangasek | :) | 18:30 |
| infinity | I have a sneaking suspicion, I'll be working non-stop from tomorrow until the end of the month, I figure I'll gorge myself on leftover ham and enjoy the holiday. :P | 18:31 |
| skaet | slangasek, sounds good to me as well. | 18:34 |
| * skaet thinks leftovers sound like a good idea.... lunch time. | 18:34 | |
| slangasek | ok, update-notifier 0.119ubuntu4 uploaded | 18:34 |
| bjf | slangasek: did you see my earlier msg? | 18:35 |
| slangasek | bjf: don't think so; had a power outage here | 18:35 |
| bjf | slangasek: when you pocket copied the kernel packages for me last week, everything seems to have gone to universe instead of main | 18:36 |
| slangasek | oh, grr | 18:36 |
| slangasek | I rather expected the magic script in ubuntu-archive-tools to take care of that for me | 18:36 |
| slangasek | bjf: remind me which suite we were in? oneiric? | 18:36 |
| bjf | slangasek: yes, oneiric | 18:37 |
| slangasek | and it was linux, linux-meta, and linux-backport-which? | 18:37 |
| * ScottK looks at update-notifier. | 18:37 | |
| bjf | slangasek: bug 974368 has complete list in comment #2 | 18:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 974368 in linux "linux: 3.0.0-19.32 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974368 | 18:38 |
| slangasek | whoa, why is launchpad offering to let me download the full comment instead of letting me look at it in the browser? :P | 18:39 |
| slangasek | bjf: promoted the three source packages to main with all binaries (after checking that they're all in main in oneiric-updates) | 18:41 |
| bjf | slangasek: thanks | 18:41 |
| ScottK | Much better. | 18:41 |
| cnd | skaet, following up from last week, I tracked down the crasher to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics bug 974017 | 18:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 974017 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Crash when touching Apple trackpad with 11 fingers" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974017 | 18:41 |
| cnd | I've attached a patch that fixes the issue | 18:41 |
| cnd | I don't know what the process is for getting this handled right now | 18:42 |
| cnd | in the frozen archive, but not release frozen, state | 18:42 |
| cnd | do I just upload it and someone on the release team will review? | 18:42 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: magic script> it should be able to do so after I get queue override API exposed | 18:42 |
| ScottK | cnd: Yes. | 18:42 |
| infinity | cnd: 11 fingers? | 18:42 |
| cnd | ok | 18:42 |
| cnd | infinity, yes... | 18:43 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: but, no interface for it just now | 18:43 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: gotcha | 18:43 |
| cnd | infinity, I use my nose for testing :) | 18:43 |
| * infinity snorts. | 18:43 | |
| slangasek | oh, I thought that was a contrived example when someone asked about it :) | 18:44 |
| slangasek | infinity: since you're declining to go away, do you want to review my eglibc merge proposal that I subscribed you to? ;) | 18:45 |
| cjwatson | cnd: there's a story about Mozart like that ... | 18:46 |
| cnd | slangasek, the use of a puppy paw was contrived, but the real issue wasn't :) | 18:46 |
| infinity | slangasek: Do you need it in today? Cause I still have eglibc things to fix when I'm back to work anyway. | 18:46 |
| cnd | cjwatson, that he used his nose? | 18:46 |
| slangasek | infinity: no, I'm just trying to give you added incentive to make yourself scarce ;) | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | the story goes that Mozart and Handel challenged each other to write something that the other couldn't play | 18:46 |
| infinity | slangasek: Har. | 18:47 |
| infinity | slangasek: Running away, then. | 18:47 |
| cnd | cjwatson, hmm, interesting.. | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | when Handel attempted Mozart's offering, he found that at one point it required 11 fingers | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | so declared it impossible | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | to prove him wrong, Mozart sat down to play, and when he got to the offending passage, he pecked the extra note with his nose | 18:48 |
| cnd | heh | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | I suspect the story is apocryphal :-) | 18:48 |
| cnd | that would be physically hard to do even by itself | 18:48 |
| cnd | the length of keys is only so long | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | it would indeed | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | pointy nose, maybe | 18:48 |
| cnd | or you'd have to turn your head sideways | 18:49 |
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| micahg | will the final ISOs be affected by -security uploads? | 20:01 |
| hallyn | hi - just pushed a workaround for non-accelerated qemu. not sure if i need to beg for that here? | 20:02 |
| cjwatson | micahg: by default, and unless we agree otherwise and go to some lengths to make sure of it, yes | 20:09 |
| micahg | cjwatson: so, pushing security issues to -security before release is an option (where we don't care if it's on the ISO or not? | 20:10 |
| jdstrand | micahg: in the past we have just queued them up in our various ppas for 0-day updates | 20:11 |
| jdstrand | micahg: (where it didn't make sense to push earlier) | 20:11 |
| micahg | jdstrand: yes, I"m aware, but was wondering if we have the option to push out to -security during that last week for stuff that doesn't matter if it makes it on the ISO (and we don't want to risk breaking the ISOs) | 20:12 |
| slangasek | micahg: I think you may have misread - packages pushed to -security *will* be seen by the ISO building scripts | 20:13 |
| jdstrand | micahg: we could if we knew there wouldn't be a respin, but we usually don't which is why we need to coordinate. bottom line, when generating isos they pull from -security | 20:13 |
| slangasek | so "doesn't matter and don't want to risk" != "push to -security" | 20:13 |
| micahg | slangasek: ah, yes, I did :) | 20:13 |
| micahg | that's too bad :( | 20:14 |
| jdstrand | micahg: is there a particular problem you are trying to solve are is this purely for understanding? | 20:15 |
| jdstrand | s/are/or/ | 20:15 |
| cjwatson | the problem with hacking things to avoid building from -security is that there's a non-trivial risk of building images that never get security updates on installed systems as a result | 20:16 |
| cjwatson | I wouldn't want to try it | 20:16 |
| micahg | jdstrand: well, wéve got the Firefox release 2 days before precise release (no idea how bad the CVEs are), with the frequency of recent chromium releases, therés bound to be one or 2 after final freeze | 20:16 |
| micahg | cjwatson: that's fine, therés a good chance it won't make a difference | 20:16 |
| micahg | err..rather, wouldn't be necessary in any event | 20:16 |
| jdstrand | micahg: you are saying you expect 1 or 2 firefox updates between now and precise release? | 20:17 |
| micahg | jdstrand: for Firefox, therés the planned release on Apr 24 | 20:17 |
| * jdstrand didn't understand the chromium reference | 20:17 | |
| micahg | jdstrand: probably 1 or 2 chromium updates after thursday | 20:17 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I guess there are isos with chromium on them you are worried about? | 20:18 |
| micahg | jdstrand: yes, mythbuntu and lubuntu :) | 20:18 |
| micahg | jdstrand: I"m more concerned with not updating the release than the ISOs, keeping the ISOs up to date for CVEs is a losing game | 20:18 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I see. well, for firefox it seems easy enough-- we publish firefox with a -2 for precise only on release day (people running precise just have to wait) | 20:19 |
| jdstrand | (thems the breaks) | 20:19 |
| jdstrand | micahg: for chromium-- it you could stage in proposed I guess and have the people responsible for testing comment on if they want it in a respin. if all do, then you can do it, if not, they wait for a 0 day | 20:20 |
| jdstrand | and by 'do it', I mean do a pocket copy | 20:20 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ok, sounds good, after Final Freeze, I"ll do precise just like that stable releases for Chromium | 20:21 |
| micahg | well, save the final copy to -security :) | 20:21 |
| * jdstrand nods | 20:21 | |
| cjwatson | staging in -proposed is fine, yes | 20:24 |
| hallyn | stgraber: an lxc including your fix has been pushed (waiting approval) to archive, fwiw | 20:46 |
| stgraber | hallyn: cool, thanks | 20:48 |
| hallyn | hm, does Unapproved mean rejected? | 20:58 |
| hallyn | stgraber: ^ then again maybe not | 20:59 |
| skaet | hallyn, Unapproved means its been loaded to the unapproved queue. | 21:02 |
| skaet | you'll see Unapproved: accepted or Unapproved: rejected after its been reviewed. :) | 21:02 |
| hallyn | skaet: ok, thanks. it sounded scary :) | 21:03 |
| skaet | :) | 21:03 |
| ScottK | Looking at update-notifier | 21:04 |
| ScottK | slangasek: In update-notifier, was moving the removal of /etc/update-motd.d/20-cpu-checker to later in the postinst intentional? It's not mentioned in debian/changelog. | 21:05 |
| slangasek | ScottK: yeah, it's to avoid needlessly calling it again in the trigger case | 21:06 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. Accepting. | 21:06 |
| slangasek | ScottK: thanks | 21:07 |
| ajmitch | for libsamplerate, I'd like to sync it to fix #969957 which bit me on upgrade, however the changelog says it has hardening build flags, should this get an FFe? | 21:25 |
| ajmitch | debdiff of the change at http://paste.ubuntu.com/922496/ | 21:25 |
| joshuahoover | can someone look at this sru for oneiric? bug #869920 ...it's fixed in p already | 21:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 869920 in ubuntuone-client "Files in new UDFs are not uploaded due to filtering" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869920 | 21:28 |
| micahg | joshuahoover: someone just needs to propose a merge into the oneiric-proposed branch and it'll go into the sponsorship queue or add a debdiff and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 21:33 |
| joshuahoover | micahg: ah, ok, thanks :) | 21:33 |
| micahg | cjwatson: would it be worth making an autogenerated lubuntu packageset since it's an official flavor (and to make it easier to keep track of what failures/uploads affects what images) | 21:55 |
| micahg | oh, and can someone review/release chromium please :) | 21:58 |
| infinity | micahg: Grr, thanks to the tarball-in-tarball packaging, that's completely unreviewable from the UI. | 22:07 |
| * infinity downloads... | 22:07 | |
| micahg | infinity: yeah, I would love to get rid of that, but don't have the time right now, maybe for Q | 22:08 |
| Laney | ajmitch: yes we ask for it for that, but it should be easy to approve | 22:08 |
| infinity | ajmitch: Looks fine to me. | 22:10 |
| ajmitch | right, thought I'd clarify since "I suppose so" wasn't very definite :) | 22:10 |
| infinity | ajmitch: Don't need FFe bugs, per se, just approval. | 22:11 |
| ScottK | infinity: Thanks to being unseeded universe, it's not frozen. | 22:11 |
| infinity | ScottK: Oh, there's also that. | 22:11 |
| ScottK | Makes it much easier. | 22:11 |
| ajmitch | infinity: righto, will sync then | 22:11 |
| infinity | (Looks fine regardless) | 22:11 |
| infinity | And it doesn't hurt to ask for reviews. :P | 22:11 |
| ScottK | Never hurts to ask. Sometimes hurts to do them though. | 22:12 |
| infinity | Heh. | 22:12 |
| ScottK | Actually I was wrong. It's in the Mythbuntu packageset anyway. | 22:12 |
| infinity | ajmitch: Just remind me what it was when you sync, so I can accept. I have a short memory. | 22:13 |
| ScottK | Looking at network-manager-pptp. | 22:13 |
| ajmitch | infinity: libsamplerate has been synced, queuebot should pick it up soon | 22:14 |
| ajmitch | there we go | 22:14 |
| infinity | micahg: FWIW, your debian/rules is broken when run by hand. | 22:17 |
| micahg | infinity: awesome :) | 22:17 |
| infinity | micahg: (It uses DEB_BUILD_ARCH, but never sets it, which I assume works under dpkg-buildpackage) | 22:17 |
| * micahg thought that was one of the guaranteed var | 22:17 | |
| infinity | Anyhow, only throws warnings in the case I cared about (debian/rules patch), but it was entertaining to see it claim my arch was unsupported. | 22:17 |
| infinity | micahg: Nothing is guaranteed when you run it by hand. :P | 22:17 |
| infinity | micahg: Note that I said "outside of dpkg-buildpackage" | 22:18 |
| infinity | Or, implied it. | 22:18 |
| ScottK | infinity: Except the interface with the package build systsem is debian/rules, so assuming dpgk-buildpackage is a bug. | 22:18 |
| infinity | ScottK: I agree. | 22:18 |
| infinity | I often use debian/rules clean/build/binary directly for testing purposes. | 22:18 |
| * ScottK too. | 22:19 | |
| infinity | Though, I'm also in the "if it works on the buildds, it's only a minor bug". | 22:19 |
| infinity | camp... | 22:19 |
| micahg | infinity: I assume it works on teh buildds otherwise we'd never get a successful arm* build :) | 22:20 |
| infinity | Or amd64, in this case. :P | 22:21 |
| infinity | But yes, debian/rules being canonical is one of the reasons for backing out dpkg-buildpackage setting CFLAGS and moving to dpkg-buildflags, for instance. | 22:22 |
| infinity | Behaviour shouldn't change because you use a different wrapper (or none at all). | 22:22 |
| micahg | infinity: ok, but FTR, I didn't write most of that file :) | 22:23 |
| infinity | Didn't imply that you did. | 22:23 |
| infinity | Merely that it's your problem now. ;) | 22:24 |
| infinity | I believe that's known as the "neener neener" principle. | 22:24 |
| micahg | really, it's not my problem, but I have quite got the person's who's problem it is to accept responsibility yet :) | 22:24 |
| micahg | *haven't | 22:24 |
| infinity | I'm sticking with my neener. | 22:25 |
| infinity | Holy crap, I just realized that compose+^+2 gives me ². | 22:25 |
| infinity | neener²! | 22:25 |
| infinity | I'm a bit embarrassed about that, given that I've been using VT terminals with compose keys since high school. | 22:27 |
| infinity | Though, that's probably a more recent extension. | 22:27 |
| ScottK | BTW, someone may want to look into another amd64 builder. amd64 has fallen significantly behind i386 in the rebuild. | 22:29 |
| infinity | I can rebalance. | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Can you resurrect rothera? | 22:29 |
| infinity | rothera's dead for good. | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 22:29 |
| infinity | They're replacing it rather than fixing it. | 22:29 |
| ScottK | That's dead all right. | 22:30 |
| infinity | Should see about bouncing nasl and shedir, though. | 22:30 |
| micahg | infinity: let me see if we can steal back the lpia builder again, it was supposed to go back for the weekend, but that never happened | 22:30 |
| infinity | micahg: Meh, rebuild's only a couple more days anyway, I'll just snag a random machine. | 22:30 |
| infinity | Actually, they're not that far out of whack. | 22:30 |
| infinity | ARM's going to beat them both. :P | 22:31 |
| micahg | infinity: yeah, but I figure with the lpia builder, i386 will finish 2 days ahead, then you can throw roseapple at the amd64 builds | 22:31 |
| infinity | Or you could just give the lpia one to amd64. :P | 22:32 |
| infinity | That would make slightly more sense. | 22:32 |
| infinity | Oh. | 22:32 |
| infinity | But molybdenum's 32-bit. | 22:32 |
| infinity | Nevermind. | 22:32 |
| infinity | Derp. | 22:32 |
| infinity | I can give roseapple to adm64 now. | 22:32 |
| infinity | micahg: If I bounce molybdenum to i386, can you take responsibility for watching for security uploads needing it? | 22:34 |
| micahg | infinity: yeah, can you flip rothera to lpia, that should take care of that issue (at least where I can see if therés something needed) | 22:35 |
| infinity | Ahh, I may as well just do that semi-permanently. | 22:35 |
| infinity | Until IS kills it. | 22:35 |
| micahg | right, we only need this for a few more days anyways :) | 22:36 |
| infinity | Sure, but I mean we can just keep rothera there as a placeholder, and bounce $some_other_machine when security builds are needed. :P | 22:37 |
| micahg | infinity: yes, exactly :) | 22:37 |
| infinity | There. Done. | 22:37 |
| cjwatson | micahg: sure, if the DMB tells me that's OK | 22:39 |
| micahg | cjwatson: for the packageset? | 22:39 |
| micahg | cjwatson: it doesn't have to grant upload rights at present | 22:40 |
| * micahg forgets if that toggle was ever implemented or not | 22:40 | |
| * infinity still loves the 11-finger touchpad bug. | 22:58 | |
| micahg | infinity: so, getting back to my chromium upload :) | 23:01 |
| infinity | micahg: Yeah, I'm doing others while yours diffs. :P | 23:01 |
| infinity | -rw-rw-r-- 1 adconrad adconrad 643232 Apr 9 16:59 chrome.diff | 23:01 |
| infinity | ... | 23:01 |
| micahg | infinity: what needs to happen also is I need to take an axe to that .orig tarball | 23:01 |
| * infinity sighs and has a glance. | 23:02 | |
| infinity | 121 files changed, 3828 insertions(+), 1654 deletions(-) | 23:02 |
| infinity | This seems like one of those plug my nose and pray reviews. | 23:02 |
| * micahg kinds gave up on reviewing the upstream changes | 23:02 | |
| infinity | Naughty. | 23:04 |
| micahg | we push major versions and there isn't any hope of manually patching | 23:06 |
| ajmitch | you just hope that upstream knows what they're doing? | 23:06 |
| micahg | infinity: I will start looking more closely during Final freeze though :) | 23:06 |
| micahg | ajmitch: well, that's almost irrelevant, we have a small test suite we run the SRUs through before theýre released to the wild | 23:07 |
| cjwatson | micahg: mm, ok, I can do an autogenerated packageset with no upload rights. mail me a reminder? | 23:45 |
| micahg | cjwatson: sure, thanks | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | reminds me, I need to sort out the bug in distroseries initialisation miscreating packagesets before we open Q | 23:46 |
| cjwatson | and figure out if there's any damage from that left in the precise data | 23:47 |
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