[08:43] <astraljava> Hmm... archive got frozen already, so I suppose it'll be harder to get anything in anymore. micahg, could you take a look at -meta, there was the mixer change revision that hasn't crept in yet? I fear the mute/unmute thing will enter as a SRU.
[14:01] <micahg> astraljava: final freeze isn't until Thursday for images
[14:15] <astraljava> micahg: Ok, just saw the /topic on #u-devel.
[14:16] <micahg> archive is frozen, yes :)
[14:18] <astraljava> I'm still on the fence whether to just use the patch Lionel included for Xubuntu, even though it doesn't fix all unmuting problems. But it seems I don't have time to enhance it in time anyway, so it's better than nothing, I suppose.
[15:33] <scott-work> astraljava: micahg: do we have a plan to refresh the meta's at before Thursday?  would it even be required?
[15:33] <scott-work> please remove the word 'at' in the previous sentence
[16:09] <astraljava> scott-work: Yeah it's required for the mixer change.
[16:10] <scott-work> okay, good to know, just wanted to make sure that micahg is onboard with this
[16:10] <scott-work> if not, then we need to find an alternative
[16:10] <astraljava> Well I haven't had his promise on the matter, so I don't know yet who'll do it.
[16:14] <len_> scott-work, I was talking to a user yesterday on #ubuntustudio who needed help getting a2j working. Claimed that the seq option in jack didn't work.
[16:14] <len_> Said he was using the 12.04 beta. seq works for me, so I am not sure what went wrong.
[16:15] <scott-work> len_: is this the email you sent to the list yesterday or today?
[16:15] <len_> yes
[16:15] <len_> It seems for most uses it is not needed
[16:15] <len_> but, for when it is, it is not obvious how.
[16:16] <len_> scott-work I am thinking even though the use is low, it may be worth while making it start with jack by default.
[16:17] <len_> Next cycle though.
[16:18] <len_> check the irc log for our talk.
[16:20] <scott-work> we might wait until they clear up jackdbus, there is an interesting email on jack-devel right now about it working well with qjackctl and jard
[16:20] <scott-work> *jackd
[16:20] <scott-work> but we can certainly look at it for next cycle
[16:20] <len_> Ya jackdbus is a bigger problem
[16:21] <len_> But it is not something I can do anything about... the jackd developers get to worry about that one :-)
[16:27] <len_> scott-work, I think 12.04 is pretty good as it is. A great place to move forward from.
[16:27] <scott-work> aye, i agree, we should all be proud of our involvement in this release :)
[16:27] <len_> I am going to work on adding a record mode(s) to my workflow platform.
[16:28] <len_> My plan is to run US 12.04 on both of my machines.
[17:12] <astraljava> Agreed, it's a pretty solid release. Just unhappy about the mute/unmute issue, but it happens. I'll add the other patch tonight, so it works for some at least.
[17:48] <micahg> astraljava: is it all ready to go ?  I am short on time this week, but I can try to fit it in
[17:55] <ttoine> hi all
[17:59] <ttoine> Just a question : I tried to install Unity on Ubuntu Studio, just to try
[18:00] <ttoine> But I can't find it in the list at login : there is only Ubuntu Studio and Xfce...
[18:00] <ttoine> any idea ?
[18:01] <micahg> ttoine: did you just install unitỷ
[18:01] <ttoine> micahg, yes
[18:02] <ttoine> and unity 2D too
[18:06] <ttoine> micahg, any idea to have unity in the list of DE ?
[18:07] <micahg> it should be Ubuntu or Ubuntu 2D, not Unity
[18:12] <scott-work> micahg: i would like to fix the clock plugin display tonight (about six hours hence)
[18:12] <astraljava> micahg: Actually, yeah the -meta is done. I realized the other patch is for xfce4-volumed.
[18:12] <scott-work> oh, i guess that really doesn't affect the meta though, does it :P
[18:15] <ttoine> micahg, I can only choose between ubuntu studio or xfce 4, even after installing Unity and Unity-2D packages
[18:16] <micahg> not sure
[18:17] <micahg> maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 if yoúre on precise
[20:35] <ttoine> yep ! here with a fresh Ubuntu Studio install, and from Unity in order to test how it works
[20:37] <ttoine> Scott-work, just to tell you that gparted is still missing on the iso, and that I filled a bug against the ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme package
[20:41] <micahg> ttoine: scott-work_: gparted missing is  seed issue, so, should be against ubuntustudio-met
[20:43] <ttoine> micahg, in case you are interested, I documented a way to install unity on ubuntu studio
[20:44] <scott-work_> ttoine: is the lightdm bug related to gparted missing?
[20:45] <scott-work_> micahg: tonight when i update the -default-settings package i will also add gparted to the desktop seed
[20:45] <micahg> scott-work_: no, it goes in the live seed
[20:45] <scott-work_> oh yes, i would have missed that
[20:45] <micahg> that would be similar to how where it's seeded elsewhere
[20:58] <ttoine> scott-work_, not at all. this is two separate thing but as you are at work I was thinking that one line for two problems would be better
[21:00] <ttoine> scott-work_ Just have a look at the bug report I did. lighdm theme can't remember the desktop choice of a user, and is not able to auto log in
[21:01] <ttoine> maybe we should use the unity-greeter as a base and change the colors and themes
[21:04] <scott-work_> ttoine: are you experiencing this after installing unity?
[21:04] <scott-work_> however, i have to admit that i haven't changed the xsession or have auto login , so i haven't tested these functions actually
[21:12] <ttoine> scott_work_ yes after installing unity
[21:12] <ttoine> I solve the problem by uninstalling ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme and installing unity-greeter
[21:13] <micahg> ttoine: well, unity-greeter would replace lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:15] <ttoine> micahg, yes, and it works great
[21:15] <micahg> ttoine: well, you should be able to use whatever greeter you want for any of the DEs
[21:16] <ttoine> scott_work_ at home the main workstation use the 40" flat tv as screen. Unity is better than xfce for this kind of use. And second point, I really would like to check that Unity can run on Ubuntu Studio without problem
[21:17] <ttoine> micahg, yes, but every greeter should have the same behaviour, no ?
[21:17] <micahg> ttoine: that depends on the behaviour
[21:25] <ttoine> micahg, in that case, there  should be a checkbox "remember my choice as default session", like on good old gdm
[21:26] <micahg> ttoine: that should be the default
[21:27] <ttoine> but the current ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme doesn't have such a checkbox
[21:30] <micahg> ttoine: no, it
[21:30] <micahg> it's the default behaviour IIRC
[21:31] <len-1204> Yes it has been for me.
[21:32] <len-1204> The DE has to be on the list first though..
[21:34] <micahg> yes, that's true, if Ubuntu isn't listed in anything except Unity Greeter, I would think that's a bug (which may or may not be fixable for precise)
[21:48] <ttoine> micahg, ubuntu is listed if you add the package "gnome-session"
[21:49] <ttoine> the problem is that with ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme, there is no way to set another default desktop than ubuntustudio
[21:54] <micahg> ttoine: hmm, seems like another bug :)
[22:03] <ttoine> micahg, anytime you restart, any time the default is ubuntu studio
[22:04] <ttoine> micahg, perhaps you should start from the unity-greeter and just change the theme...
[22:06] <ttoine> For what I see on forums, this bug happend on Xubuntu too
[22:07] <micahg> so, it might be an issue with the gtk greeter or a config option, I am not sure, mr_pouit would be better to speak to about this
[22:12] <ttoine> micahg, sometimes I don't understand developpers... instead of rewriting everything, why not use something working welll and just change what you just really need ???
[22:13] <ttoine> scott-work_, do you have some news from the bug about the menu icon ?
[23:59] <astraljava> bah... I'm not too positive about the unmute resolution. I can't get xfconf to return anything pulse-related by default on two machines precise freshly installed. If there's no easy way to change it so that it finds pulse out-of-the-box, we're stuck with what we have right now.