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BarkingFishMorning ScottK!  Thanks for getting back to me on that kpackagekit bug - I was pretty sure by now that very very few people would be using it.  1204 is going to be LTS, and I'd imagine most people have probably applied updates to natty by now, which nuked kpackagekit :)00:25
ScottKBarkingFish: Right, but apper is just kpackagekit renamed, so it should be checked to see if it still has the bug.00:27
BarkingFishI was told it wasn't anymore, something about it not using packagekit or something - remember when I was moaning like hell about kpackagekit being taken out last year?00:28
BarkingFishDaniel told me apper wasn't kpackagekit :P00:28
yofelwell, it's kpackagekit's successor and uses packagekit00:29
yofeland at least to me it didn't look all that different00:29
ScottKIt definitely uses packagekit.00:37
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rbelemyofel, i think it is ok to have both installed at the same time01:41
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Riddellthanks Daskreech 09:35
Riddellno09:35
Riddellthanks debfx 09:36
RiddellI'm onto kde telepathy and still doing calligra for a backport 09:36
debfxlet's see if I still know how to prepare kde-l10n packages10:11
Riddelldebfx: handy script in kubuntu-dev-tools n'est pas?10:12
debfxI think it's all in the kde-l10n-common branch10:13
Riddelloh could be10:13
Riddell"davmor2 extended their membership"  yay davmor2 still loves us!10:32
davmor2Riddell: indeed,  I have a play about half way through the release and post release and report any bugs I notice :)10:41
peacerbelem: ping11:08
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Riddellyofel: did you get kde-workspace up?11:15
yofelI fixed a few things, someone else please re-review that11:16
Riddellug random new qt build failure https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/3394590/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.qt4-x11_4%3A4.8.1-0ubuntu2%7Eoneiric1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:25
Riddellqt4-qmake no such file11:26
Riddelldon't think I've seen that before11:26
shadeslayerRiddell: coming to akademy?11:27
shadeslayerafiestas: apachelogger Mamarok markey ^11:28
markeyyeah I think I will come11:29
markeybut I haven't booked anything so far11:29
shadeslayersame here ....11:30
markeyapachelogger also said he'd like to attend11:30
Mamarokmarkey: did you send a mail to the board for sponsoring?11:30
markeynope11:30
shadeslayerRiddell: how many days will it take me to cover essential stuff in Scotland? :P11:30
Riddellshadeslayer: what what?11:32
shadeslayerRiddell: I'm planning to come to Scotland for touristy stuff :P11:33
BluesKajHey all11:34
ulyssesWhat must be done to make the K3b quicklist for Unity translatable? See bug #97794811:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977948 in Ubuntu Translations "quicklist of k3b can't be translated" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97794811:36
debfxulysses: push the changes upstream and make sure that the kde l10n infrastructure can handle desktop actions11:39
ulyssesdebfx: thanks11:45
ulyssesNext question: Calligra was updated to 2.4.0 in Precise, but the calligra-l10n-* packages are from 2.3.92, and none of them contains the actual translation, just the translation of documentation11:46
debfxulysses: the actual translations are supposed to be in language-pack-kde-LANG or language-pack-kde-LANG-base11:56
RiddellI'll do the calligra-l10n bits today11:56
Riddellbut that'll end up in language-packs as debfx says11:56
debfxRiddell: have you pinged dpm to include the calligra templates in our language packs?11:59
Riddelldebfx: hmm no12:02
Riddelldpm: ping12:02
ulyssesdebfx: a patch was sent to upstream for K3b, but no changes yet: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29609112:04
ubottuKDE bug 296091 in general "[PATCH] Add quicklist items" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed: ]12:04
debfxulysses: ok, though reviewboard is usually a better place to submit patches12:05
dpmdebfx, Riddell, hey, how can I help with those templates?12:07
Riddelldpm: are they in the language packs?12:07
dpmI don't know, is the source package in main and are the translations + templates uploaded as part of kde-l10n-*?12:08
debfxdpm: these templates should be put into the kde language packs: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/calligra-l10n/+imports12:09
dpmdebfx, the source package should create a .pot template during build, right now there is none, which is why the translations are blocked in the imports queue:12:11
dpmhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/calligra-l10n/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot12:11
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debfxdpm, Riddell: so I guess calligra needs to create the .pot templates as calligra-l10n just contains the .po translation files12:29
Riddellmm12:31
RiddellI wonder what we did before with koffice12:31
shadeslayeryay, pbuilder-dist is working on the arm box again12:32
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rbelemPeace-, pong12:47
shadeslayerahh debfx fixed strigi symbols ... 12:58
Riddellhe's good like that12:59
shadeslayerI was working on that but pbuilder just refused to work on the arm box :P12:59
Peace-rbelem: have you seen the video?13:02
Peace-anyone around here?13:08
BluesKajPeace-, yeah , just hanging around , now and then :)13:16
Peace- BluesKaj have you 2 computer with linux and samba?13:17
Peace-s13:17
BluesKajI did , but my other linux pc is in bad shape , think the mobo is kaput , Peace- , so i'm down to one linux pc atm13:18
Peace-BluesKaj: nothing then13:19
Peace-BluesKaj: :) tx anyway13:19
BluesKajPeace-, I was using samba tho , and ssh 13:19
BluesKajwhat are you trying to do 13:20
Peace-BluesKaj: for ssh you was using dolphin right?13:20
Peace-BluesKaj: well i haad a problem with samba on 2 computers13:20
Peace-i was not able to share stuff 13:20
Peace-because an stupid error13:20
Peace-of13:20
Peace-BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sW2Xr7f5Q13:20
BluesKajno , I was using the cli with X , then I would launch dolphin with usb-launch13:21
BluesKajerr dbus -launch13:21
Peace-i know that dolphin can handle ssh sharing stuff with libssh13:22
BluesKajyes13:22
Peace-time to go bye13:31
shadeslayeraw man13:37
shadeslayerRiddell: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/74822.html : "Ubuntu officials even deflected the rising tide of user angst with Canonical's decision to pull the plug on Kubuntu ..."13:37
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Riddellshadeslayer: that sentence feel incomplete, deflected how?13:42
Riddellshadeslayer: I really can't find a contact for that news site, their loss I guess14:16
freglI just installed qt4-qmake:i386 - where does that end up? should I be able to build 32 bit apps on my 64 bit machine with that?14:58
freglah, linux32 seems to do the trick15:00
freglmeh, maybe not15:10
Tm_TI think you need more than that for cross-compiling (or what is that called)15:10
rbelemmgraesslin, heya :-)15:45
rbelemmgraesslin, may i commit this patch http://paste.kde.org/454958/ in the 4.8.2 branch?15:47
mgraesslinrbelem: no but you can backport e90f220260b04fbd1150e2800a0dd539d9e85f12 :-)15:53
rbelemmgraesslin, thanks :-D15:55
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Riddellhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems  ta da16:16
DWonderlyRiddell: +116:21
GirlyGirlRiddell: But isn't canonical still providing webservers and such. They still hold the Kubuntu trademark too16:26
Riddellhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Blue-Systems-to-sponsor-Kubuntu-1518345.html16:27
Riddellhttp://www.muktware.com/news/3516/kubuntu-be-sponsored-blue-systems16:27
jjesseyay16:27
RiddellGirlyGirl: for now yes although I'd like to move to a web server we control because IS is pretty poor at being useful16:27
RiddellGirlyGirl: the trademark is unknown, if they say we can use it for commercial use that's fine but if not we might have to change the name16:28
jjessecongrats 16:28
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koolhead11Riddell, hey there16:48
Riddellhi16:48
bulldog98Riddell: +117:38
yofelanyone want to take a look at rbelem's kde-workspace in ninjas? Otherwise I'll upload as it looks fine to me17:40
yofelrbelem: you have an FFe for that?17:41
rbelemyofel, there is a bug for that17:41
yofelwhich one? as it should be closed by the upload17:41
rbelemyofel, one minute17:41
rbelemyofel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-meta/+bug/95618617:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 956186 in kubuntu-active-meta (Ubuntu) "kwin needs separate compile for active" [Undecided,Fix committed]17:42
yofelrbelem: why's that against meta and not workspace?17:44
yofelScottK: ^17:44
rbelemRiddell, ^17:57
debfxyofel, rbelem: why do we need separate libkwinactive* packages?18:21
debfxare they used by anything other than kde-window-manager-active?18:21
rbelemdebfx, to save space and it is used only by kde-window-manager-active18:22
debfxhow does that save space?18:22
rbelemdebfx, by installing only what kwinactive needs18:24
yofelI don't know whether it saves anything, maybe it does in rbelem's setup. And it doesn't break anything. But if you want to kill those nvidia packages I won't argue against you18:27
rbelemneither do i :-)18:28
debfxwell if we don't install .so symlinks and they are only used by one package then put them into that package18:28
debfxoh18:29
yofelthey're used by 2 packages actually18:29
yofeleach18:29
debfxwe now have 3 kwin variants18:29
* debfx sighs18:29
rbelemdebfx, four variants :-D18:30
yofel4 actuallly, kwin, kwingles, active, activegles18:30
debfxwhat's the point of active?18:30
rbelemdebfx, but kwinactive is a totally different creature :-)18:30
rbelemdebfx, to be used by kubunt active18:30
debfxwhy doesn't that use activegles?18:31
bulldog98debfx: gles would be for arm18:31
rbelemdebfx, it does not run on some hardware18:31
bulldog98rbelem: startactive does not start the kwinactive binary18:48
rbelembulldog98, not yet18:49
bulldog98rbelem: why do you let me install it then :P18:49
bulldog98rbelem: should I fix it in kubuntu-active?18:49
rbelembulldog98, but as soon it enters the repos i would start working on kubuntu-active-default-settings and plasma-active-default-settings18:50
rbelembulldog98, yup :-)18:51
* yofel wonders where apachelogger went missing18:58
bulldog98rbelem: I had fixed also some other stuff in startactive19:06
rbelembulldog98, nice :-)19:06
rbelembulldog98, upload to kubuntu-active ppa :-)19:06
bulldog98rbelem: done19:06
rbelembulldog98, thanks :-)19:07
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bulldog98debfx: btw what’s about #97322419:12
bulldog98s/#/bug #/19:12
kubotubulldog98 meant: "debfx: btw what’s about bug #973224"19:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 973224 in kdesdk (Ubuntu) "The kdesdk-dolphin-plugins description is missing information" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97322419:12
RiddellI'm due on podcast soon http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/uupc.mp319:22
bulldog98could some one rebuild kdesdk for the archive with the kdesdk bzr branch to fix bug 97322419:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 973224 in kdesdk (Ubuntu) "The kdesdk-dolphin-plugins description is missing information" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97322419:25
bulldog98Riddell: ? ^19:27
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yofelRiddell: you uploading? otherwise I'll do it19:36
* yofel uploads19:44
bulldog98yofel: thanks19:46
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Riddelldid anyone listen to the podcast interview?19:54
bulldog98Riddell: yep was good19:56
Riddellphew :)19:56
bulldog98only the quality was a bit low :)19:56
bulldog98audio quality19:56
Riddellof my line or the podcast in general?19:56
bulldog98Riddell: of your line19:57
* yofel listens now19:57
yofelthat show sure seems worth billions19:57
Riddellbulldog98: hum, I just upgraded this line to fibre optic, I should get my money back!19:57
yofelquality is fine IMO19:58
bulldog98maybe I’m not good at judging quality of sound :)19:58
yofellet me rephrase, quality is fine for a podcast IMO19:59
Riddelldoes this say good stuff?  http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Nachrichten/Kubuntu-hat-einen-neuen-Sponsor19:59
yofelRiddell: did you say that the sponsoring lasts "while we can provide entertainment"?20:04
yofelonly thing that sounds odd to me, otherwise about what everyone else said20:04
yofelbulldog98: what logo did they use before?20:04
bulldog98yofel: the old one20:05
yofelah20:05
Riddellyofel: that on the german article?20:05
yofelyeah20:05
Riddellmaybe not the best choice of words :)20:06
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Philip Muškovac * 44 * debian/changelog New upstream release20:10
bulldog98has someone thought about setting up a diaspora account for kubuntu?20:16
Riddellbulldog98: I'd prefer we got the kubuntu presence on popular social networking sites sorted first20:23
Riddellthe internet is buzzing http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/kubuntu-announces-new-funding-partner/  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/04/10/1639252/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems-rather-than-canonical20:24
claydohhmm is there more info on who blue systems are?20:30
tsimpsonclaydoh: there's their website http://blue-systems.com/20:33
claydohtsimpson: not much there 20:34
QuintasanTHIS IS20:58
QuintasanSPLENDID20:59
ScottKbulldog98: Did you send the kdesdk description change to Debian?20:59
QuintasanRiddell: How does one thank you for invoking some sponsorship magic?20:59
Quintasanapachelogger: ping21:00
RiddellQuintasan: hugs are a good way :)21:00
QuintasanWhere does one send beer?21:00
* Quintasan hugs Riddell21:00
Riddelljriddell.org/contact.html :)21:00
bulldog98ScottK: not yet21:01
ScottKOK.  Don't forget.21:01
bulldog98how would I do that21:01
ScottKWrite a note in permanent marker on your hand?21:02
bulldog98ScottK: I meen sending to Debian?21:02
ScottKDo you have access to their Git repo?21:02
bulldog98ScottK: don’t think so21:03
Quintasanoh yeah, so my exams start at 4th of May, after like 5 days I should be free21:06
ScottKWe'll fix that.21:06
ScottKQuintasan: Stop listening to shadeslayer.21:06
QuintasanScottK: No, seriously.21:06
Quintasanapachelogger: I presume you do have access to a TV with RTL channel or sth like that with news in German. Would it be possible for you to record one or two of these and upload them somewhere? I have been given an opportunity to get some extra grades from German in school and I thought it would be foolish not to try.21:08
QuintasanScottK: Unless I fail I'm generally done after advanced physics exam21:08
RiddellQuintasan: not available online somewhere?21:09
QuintasanElse I have time to study until September so I can retake the exam, though I doubt it will happen21:09
QuintasanRiddell: Didn't have time to do any exensive googling21:09
QuintasanDoing maths all the time21:09
Riddellnudge some germans, bulldog98?21:10
* bulldog98 doesn’t have a tv, so now records from me21:11
bulldog98ScottK: how do I get my ssh key to alioth?21:11
yofelARD has the news available online at least21:11
Quintasanyofel: Thanks for the tip. I will take a look tomorrow.21:12
yofelQuintasan: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/videoarchiv2.html on the right select what you want to watch from the dropdown list, click on anzeigen and watch something21:12
bulldog98zdf has some stuff online too21:12
* Quintasan notes21:12
QuintasanI still have a vocabulary test to retake21:13
Quintasandurr21:13
Quintasantoo much things pilled on at the end of the school year21:13
Quintasancurses21:13
yofelviel Spaß :P21:13
QuintasanFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-21:13
* Quintasan ragequit21:13
yofel:D21:13
ScottKbulldog98: So, to answer your question, you commit it to git in Debian.  If you have any doubts, ask them.21:14
* Quintasan goes back to le vocabulary book21:15
QuintasanSee you some time soon21:15
toscalixRiddell: congrats21:26
Riddellthanks toscalix :)21:27
toscalixyour love for KDE and Kubuntu is amaizing21:27
Tm_Thmmm21:27
toscalixas a kubuntu user, let me tell you we are lucky to have you around21:28
Riddellat last, phoronix doing a kubuntu article that isn't just pasting IRC logs :) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4NTM21:28
Tm_Tis that blue systems pic going to stay in the header of kubuntu.org?21:28
toscalixthanks for fighting so much for the distro21:28
RiddellTm_T: in the banner?  no21:28
Tm_Tgood (:21:28
toscalixlong live to kubuntu....or whatever we call it21:28
RiddellTm_T: actually we should start making a banner for 12.0421:28
Tm_Tah, yes21:28
Riddellwhere's an artist when you need one?21:29
toscalixdrinking backstage21:29
toscalix:-)21:29
Tm_Tsleeping, it's well past midnight here21:29
yofel~seen sheytan21:29
kubotusheytan was last seen 17 days, 1 hour, 57 minutes and 43 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote host closed the connection)21:29
yofelhm21:29
Riddellanyone got his e-mail?21:31
yofelRiddell: madsheytan@gmail.com according to http://madsheytan.blogspot.de/21:32
bulldog98~seen sabdfl21:32
kubotusabdfl was last seen 9 months, 1 day, 8 hours, 12 minutes and 5 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)21:32
Tm_Thmmm, he used to be here more often21:33
* bulldog98 is of for bed, good night to all21:33
yofelgn8 bulldog9821:33
Riddellyofel: I'll e-mail him21:33
* yofel will try to dig up apachelogger tomorrow to see what we do about the splash21:34
Tm_Tgood night all21:34
yofelI'm not sure whether there's anything left todo from the plymouth side. And I'll try to figure out how to adjust kdm21:35
Riddellyofel: has it been uploaded?21:36
yofelafaik not21:36
Riddellhmm getting late21:36
yofelyeah21:36
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Riddellblog http://blogs.kde.org/node/456522:09
* yofel is off for today22:18
rbelemRiddell, \o/22:44
rbelemRiddell, awesome news22:44
* tazz hugs Riddell 22:45
* tazz hugs rbelem 22:45
tazzhugs for everyone \o/22:45
tazz:D22:45
* rbelem hugs back tazz :-D22:46
Riddellthanks guys :)22:47
* rbelem hugs tightly Riddell 22:48
* Riddell snoozes22:51
MamarokRiddell: congrats :)23:23
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greybackRiddell: good news, happy to hear it :)23:52

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