[00:25] <BarkingFish> Morning ScottK!  Thanks for getting back to me on that kpackagekit bug - I was pretty sure by now that very very few people would be using it.  1204 is going to be LTS, and I'd imagine most people have probably applied updates to natty by now, which nuked kpackagekit :)
[00:27] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Right, but apper is just kpackagekit renamed, so it should be checked to see if it still has the bug.
[00:28] <BarkingFish> I was told it wasn't anymore, something about it not using packagekit or something - remember when I was moaning like hell about kpackagekit being taken out last year?
[00:28] <BarkingFish> Daniel told me apper wasn't kpackagekit :P
[00:29] <yofel> well, it's kpackagekit's successor and uses packagekit
[00:29] <yofel> and at least to me it didn't look all that different
[00:37] <ScottK> It definitely uses packagekit.
[01:41] <rbelem> yofel, i think it is ok to have both installed at the same time
[09:35] <Riddell> thanks Daskreech 
[09:35] <Riddell> no
[09:36] <Riddell> thanks debfx 
[09:36] <Riddell> I'm onto kde telepathy and still doing calligra for a backport 
[10:11] <debfx> let's see if I still know how to prepare kde-l10n packages
[10:12] <Riddell> debfx: handy script in kubuntu-dev-tools n'est pas?
[10:13] <debfx> I think it's all in the kde-l10n-common branch
[10:13] <Riddell> oh could be
[10:32] <Riddell> "davmor2 extended their membership"  yay davmor2 still loves us!
[10:41] <davmor2> Riddell: indeed,  I have a play about half way through the release and post release and report any bugs I notice :)
[11:08] <peace> rbelem: ping
[11:15] <Riddell> yofel: did you get kde-workspace up?
[11:16] <yofel> I fixed a few things, someone else please re-review that
[11:25] <Riddell> ug random new qt build failure https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/3394590/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.qt4-x11_4%3A4.8.1-0ubuntu2%7Eoneiric1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:26] <Riddell> qt4-qmake no such file
[11:26] <Riddell> don't think I've seen that before
[11:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: coming to akademy?
[11:28] <shadeslayer> afiestas: apachelogger Mamarok markey ^
[11:29] <markey> yeah I think I will come
[11:29] <markey> but I haven't booked anything so far
[11:30] <shadeslayer> same here ....
[11:30] <markey> apachelogger also said he'd like to attend
[11:30] <Mamarok> markey: did you send a mail to the board for sponsoring?
[11:30] <markey> nope
[11:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how many days will it take me to cover essential stuff in Scotland? :P
[11:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what what?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'm planning to come to Scotland for touristy stuff :P
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:36] <ulysses> What must be done to make the K3b quicklist for Unity translatable? See bug #977948
[11:39] <debfx> ulysses: push the changes upstream and make sure that the kde l10n infrastructure can handle desktop actions
[11:45] <ulysses> debfx: thanks
[11:46] <ulysses> Next question: Calligra was updated to 2.4.0 in Precise, but the calligra-l10n-* packages are from 2.3.92, and none of them contains the actual translation, just the translation of documentation
[11:56] <debfx> ulysses: the actual translations are supposed to be in language-pack-kde-LANG or language-pack-kde-LANG-base
[11:56] <Riddell> I'll do the calligra-l10n bits today
[11:56] <Riddell> but that'll end up in language-packs as debfx says
[11:59] <debfx> Riddell: have you pinged dpm to include the calligra templates in our language packs?
[12:02] <Riddell> debfx: hmm no
[12:02] <Riddell> dpm: ping
[12:04] <ulysses> debfx: a patch was sent to upstream for K3b, but no changes yet: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296091
[12:05] <debfx> ulysses: ok, though reviewboard is usually a better place to submit patches
[12:07] <dpm> debfx, Riddell, hey, how can I help with those templates?
[12:07] <Riddell> dpm: are they in the language packs?
[12:08] <dpm> I don't know, is the source package in main and are the translations + templates uploaded as part of kde-l10n-*?
[12:09] <debfx> dpm: these templates should be put into the kde language packs: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/calligra-l10n/+imports
[12:11] <dpm> debfx, the source package should create a .pot template during build, right now there is none, which is why the translations are blocked in the imports queue:
[12:11] <dpm> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/calligra-l10n/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot
[12:29] <debfx> dpm, Riddell: so I guess calligra needs to create the .pot templates as calligra-l10n just contains the .po translation files
[12:31] <Riddell> mm
[12:31] <Riddell> I wonder what we did before with koffice
[12:32] <shadeslayer> yay, pbuilder-dist is working on the arm box again
[12:47] <rbelem> Peace-, pong
[12:58] <shadeslayer> ahh debfx fixed strigi symbols ... 
[12:59] <Riddell> he's good like that
[12:59] <shadeslayer> I was working on that but pbuilder just refused to work on the arm box :P
[13:02] <Peace-> rbelem: have you seen the video?
[13:08] <Peace-> anyone around here?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Peace-, yeah , just hanging around , now and then :)
[13:17] <Peace->  BluesKaj have you 2 computer with linux and samba?
[13:17] <Peace-> s
[13:18] <BluesKaj> I did , but my other linux pc is in bad shape , think the mobo is kaput , Peace- , so i'm down to one linux pc atm
[13:19] <Peace-> BluesKaj: nothing then
[13:19] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :) tx anyway
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I was using samba tho , and ssh 
[13:20] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do 
[13:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: for ssh you was using dolphin right?
[13:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well i haad a problem with samba on 2 computers
[13:20] <Peace-> i was not able to share stuff 
[13:20] <Peace-> because an stupid error
[13:20] <Peace-> of
[13:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sW2Xr7f5Q
[13:21] <BluesKaj> no , I was using the cli with X , then I would launch dolphin with usb-launch
[13:21] <BluesKaj> err dbus -launch
[13:22] <Peace-> i know that dolphin can handle ssh sharing stuff with libssh
[13:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:31] <Peace-> time to go bye
[13:37] <shadeslayer> aw man
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/74822.html : "Ubuntu officials even deflected the rising tide of user angst with Canonical's decision to pull the plug on Kubuntu ..."
[13:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that sentence feel incomplete, deflected how?
[14:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I really can't find a contact for that news site, their loss I guess
[14:58] <fregl> I just installed qt4-qmake:i386 - where does that end up? should I be able to build 32 bit apps on my 64 bit machine with that?
[15:00] <fregl> ah, linux32 seems to do the trick
[15:10] <fregl> meh, maybe not
[15:10] <Tm_T> I think you need more than that for cross-compiling (or what is that called)
[15:45] <rbelem> mgraesslin, heya :-)
[15:47] <rbelem> mgraesslin, may i commit this patch http://paste.kde.org/454958/ in the 4.8.2 branch?
[15:53] <mgraesslin> rbelem: no but you can backport e90f220260b04fbd1150e2800a0dd539d9e85f12 :-)
[15:55] <rbelem> mgraesslin, thanks :-D
[16:16] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems  ta da
[16:21] <DWonderly> Riddell: +1
[16:26] <GirlyGirl> Riddell: But isn't canonical still providing webservers and such. They still hold the Kubuntu trademark too
[16:27] <Riddell> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Blue-Systems-to-sponsor-Kubuntu-1518345.html
[16:27] <Riddell> http://www.muktware.com/news/3516/kubuntu-be-sponsored-blue-systems
[16:27] <jjesse> yay
[16:27] <Riddell> GirlyGirl: for now yes although I'd like to move to a web server we control because IS is pretty poor at being useful
[16:28] <Riddell> GirlyGirl: the trademark is unknown, if they say we can use it for commercial use that's fine but if not we might have to change the name
[16:28] <jjesse> congrats 
[16:47]  * koolhead11 pokes v 
[16:48] <koolhead11> Riddell, hey there
[16:48] <Riddell> hi
[17:38] <bulldog98> Riddell: +1
[17:40] <yofel> anyone want to take a look at rbelem's kde-workspace in ninjas? Otherwise I'll upload as it looks fine to me
[17:41] <yofel> rbelem: you have an FFe for that?
[17:41] <rbelem> yofel, there is a bug for that
[17:41] <yofel> which one? as it should be closed by the upload
[17:41] <rbelem> yofel, one minute
[17:42] <rbelem> yofel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-meta/+bug/956186
[17:44] <yofel> rbelem: why's that against meta and not workspace?
[17:44] <yofel> ScottK: ^
[17:57] <rbelem> Riddell, ^
[18:21] <debfx> yofel, rbelem: why do we need separate libkwinactive* packages?
[18:21] <debfx> are they used by anything other than kde-window-manager-active?
[18:22] <rbelem> debfx, to save space and it is used only by kde-window-manager-active
[18:22] <debfx> how does that save space?
[18:24] <rbelem> debfx, by installing only what kwinactive needs
[18:27] <yofel> I don't know whether it saves anything, maybe it does in rbelem's setup. And it doesn't break anything. But if you want to kill those nvidia packages I won't argue against you
[18:28] <rbelem> neither do i :-)
[18:28] <debfx> well if we don't install .so symlinks and they are only used by one package then put them into that package
[18:29] <debfx> oh
[18:29] <yofel> they're used by 2 packages actually
[18:29] <yofel> each
[18:29] <debfx> we now have 3 kwin variants
[18:29]  * debfx sighs
[18:30] <rbelem> debfx, four variants :-D
[18:30] <yofel> 4 actuallly, kwin, kwingles, active, activegles
[18:30] <debfx> what's the point of active?
[18:30] <rbelem> debfx, but kwinactive is a totally different creature :-)
[18:30] <rbelem> debfx, to be used by kubunt active
[18:31] <debfx> why doesn't that use activegles?
[18:31] <bulldog98> debfx: gles would be for arm
[18:31] <rbelem> debfx, it does not run on some hardware
[18:48] <bulldog98> rbelem: startactive does not start the kwinactive binary
[18:49] <rbelem> bulldog98, not yet
[18:49] <bulldog98> rbelem: why do you let me install it then :P
[18:49] <bulldog98> rbelem: should I fix it in kubuntu-active?
[18:50] <rbelem> bulldog98, but as soon it enters the repos i would start working on kubuntu-active-default-settings and plasma-active-default-settings
[18:51] <rbelem> bulldog98, yup :-)
[18:58]  * yofel wonders where apachelogger went missing
[19:06] <bulldog98> rbelem: I had fixed also some other stuff in startactive
[19:06] <rbelem> bulldog98, nice :-)
[19:06] <rbelem> bulldog98, upload to kubuntu-active ppa :-)
[19:06] <bulldog98> rbelem: done
[19:07] <rbelem> bulldog98, thanks :-)
[19:07]  * rbelem starts virtual machine
[19:12] <bulldog98> debfx: btw what’s about #973224
[19:12] <bulldog98> s/#/bug #/
[19:12] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "debfx: btw what’s about bug #973224"
[19:22] <Riddell> I'm due on podcast soon http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/uupc.mp3
[19:25] <bulldog98> could some one rebuild kdesdk for the archive with the kdesdk bzr branch to fix bug 973224
[19:27] <bulldog98> Riddell: ? ^
[19:36] <yofel> Riddell: you uploading? otherwise I'll do it
[19:44]  * yofel uploads
[19:46] <bulldog98> yofel: thanks
[19:54] <Riddell> did anyone listen to the podcast interview?
[19:56] <bulldog98> Riddell: yep was good
[19:56] <Riddell> phew :)
[19:56] <bulldog98> only the quality was a bit low :)
[19:56] <bulldog98> audio quality
[19:56] <Riddell> of my line or the podcast in general?
[19:57] <bulldog98> Riddell: of your line
[19:57]  * yofel listens now
[19:57] <yofel> that show sure seems worth billions
[19:57] <Riddell> bulldog98: hum, I just upgraded this line to fibre optic, I should get my money back!
[19:58] <yofel> quality is fine IMO
[19:58] <bulldog98> maybe I’m not good at judging quality of sound :)
[19:59] <yofel> let me rephrase, quality is fine for a podcast IMO
[19:59] <Riddell> does this say good stuff?  http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Nachrichten/Kubuntu-hat-einen-neuen-Sponsor
[20:04] <yofel> Riddell: did you say that the sponsoring lasts "while we can provide entertainment"?
[20:04] <yofel> only thing that sounds odd to me, otherwise about what everyone else said
[20:04] <yofel> bulldog98: what logo did they use before?
[20:05] <bulldog98> yofel: the old one
[20:05] <yofel> ah
[20:05] <Riddell> yofel: that on the german article?
[20:05] <yofel> yeah
[20:06] <Riddell> maybe not the best choice of words :)
[20:10] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Philip Muškovac * 44 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[20:16] <bulldog98> has someone thought about setting up a diaspora account for kubuntu?
[20:23] <Riddell> bulldog98: I'd prefer we got the kubuntu presence on popular social networking sites sorted first
[20:24] <Riddell> the internet is buzzing http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/kubuntu-announces-new-funding-partner/  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/04/10/1639252/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems-rather-than-canonical
[20:30] <claydoh> hmm is there more info on who blue systems are?
[20:33] <tsimpson> claydoh: there's their website http://blue-systems.com/
[20:34] <claydoh> tsimpson: not much there 
[20:58] <Quintasan> THIS IS
[20:59] <Quintasan> SPLENDID
[20:59] <ScottK> bulldog98: Did you send the kdesdk description change to Debian?
[20:59] <Quintasan> Riddell: How does one thank you for invoking some sponsorship magic?
[21:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[21:00] <Riddell> Quintasan: hugs are a good way :)
[21:00] <Quintasan> Where does one send beer?
[21:00]  * Quintasan hugs Riddell
[21:00] <Riddell> jriddell.org/contact.html :)
[21:01] <bulldog98> ScottK: not yet
[21:01] <ScottK> OK.  Don't forget.
[21:01] <bulldog98> how would I do that
[21:02] <ScottK> Write a note in permanent marker on your hand?
[21:02] <bulldog98> ScottK: I meen sending to Debian?
[21:02] <ScottK> Do you have access to their Git repo?
[21:03] <bulldog98> ScottK: don’t think so
[21:06] <Quintasan> oh yeah, so my exams start at 4th of May, after like 5 days I should be free
[21:06] <ScottK> We'll fix that.
[21:06] <ScottK> Quintasan: Stop listening to shadeslayer.
[21:06] <Quintasan> ScottK: No, seriously.
[21:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I presume you do have access to a TV with RTL channel or sth like that with news in German. Would it be possible for you to record one or two of these and upload them somewhere? I have been given an opportunity to get some extra grades from German in school and I thought it would be foolish not to try.
[21:08] <Quintasan> ScottK: Unless I fail I'm generally done after advanced physics exam
[21:09] <Riddell> Quintasan: not available online somewhere?
[21:09] <Quintasan> Else I have time to study until September so I can retake the exam, though I doubt it will happen
[21:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: Didn't have time to do any exensive googling
[21:09] <Quintasan> Doing maths all the time
[21:10] <Riddell> nudge some germans, bulldog98?
[21:11]  * bulldog98 doesn’t have a tv, so now records from me
[21:11] <bulldog98> ScottK: how do I get my ssh key to alioth?
[21:11] <yofel> ARD has the news available online at least
[21:12] <Quintasan> yofel: Thanks for the tip. I will take a look tomorrow.
[21:12] <yofel> Quintasan: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/videoarchiv2.html on the right select what you want to watch from the dropdown list, click on anzeigen and watch something
[21:12] <bulldog98> zdf has some stuff online too
[21:12]  * Quintasan notes
[21:13] <Quintasan> I still have a vocabulary test to retake
[21:13] <Quintasan> durr
[21:13] <Quintasan> too much things pilled on at the end of the school year
[21:13] <Quintasan> curses
[21:13] <yofel> viel Spaß :P
[21:13] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-
[21:13]  * Quintasan ragequit
[21:13] <yofel> :D
[21:14] <ScottK> bulldog98: So, to answer your question, you commit it to git in Debian.  If you have any doubts, ask them.
[21:15]  * Quintasan goes back to le vocabulary book
[21:15] <Quintasan> See you some time soon
[21:26] <toscalix> Riddell: congrats
[21:27] <Riddell> thanks toscalix :)
[21:27] <toscalix> your love for KDE and Kubuntu is amaizing
[21:27] <Tm_T> hmmm
[21:28] <toscalix> as a kubuntu user, let me tell you we are lucky to have you around
[21:28] <Riddell> at last, phoronix doing a kubuntu article that isn't just pasting IRC logs :) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4NTM
[21:28] <Tm_T> is that blue systems pic going to stay in the header of kubuntu.org?
[21:28] <toscalix> thanks for fighting so much for the distro
[21:28] <Riddell> Tm_T: in the banner?  no
[21:28] <Tm_T> good (:
[21:28] <toscalix> long live to kubuntu....or whatever we call it
[21:28] <Riddell> Tm_T: actually we should start making a banner for 12.04
[21:28] <Tm_T> ah, yes
[21:29] <Riddell> where's an artist when you need one?
[21:29] <toscalix> drinking backstage
[21:29] <toscalix> :-)
[21:29] <Tm_T> sleeping, it's well past midnight here
[21:29] <yofel> ~seen sheytan
[21:29] <kubotu> sheytan was last seen 17 days, 1 hour, 57 minutes and 43 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:29] <yofel> hm
[21:31] <Riddell> anyone got his e-mail?
[21:32] <yofel> Riddell: madsheytan@gmail.com according to http://madsheytan.blogspot.de/
[21:32] <bulldog98> ~seen sabdfl
[21:32] <kubotu> sabdfl was last seen 9 months, 1 day, 8 hours, 12 minutes and 5 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[21:33] <Tm_T> hmmm, he used to be here more often
[21:33]  * bulldog98 is of for bed, good night to all
[21:33] <yofel> gn8 bulldog98
[21:33] <Riddell> yofel: I'll e-mail him
[21:34]  * yofel will try to dig up apachelogger tomorrow to see what we do about the splash
[21:34] <Tm_T> good night all
[21:35] <yofel> I'm not sure whether there's anything left todo from the plymouth side. And I'll try to figure out how to adjust kdm
[21:36] <Riddell> yofel: has it been uploaded?
[21:36] <yofel> afaik not
[21:36] <Riddell> hmm getting late
[21:36] <yofel> yeah
[22:09] <Riddell> blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
[22:18]  * yofel is off for today
[22:44] <rbelem> Riddell, \o/
[22:44] <rbelem> Riddell, awesome news
[22:45]  * tazz hugs Riddell 
[22:45]  * tazz hugs rbelem 
[22:45] <tazz> hugs for everyone \o/
[22:45] <tazz> :D
[22:46]  * rbelem hugs back tazz :-D
[22:47] <Riddell> thanks guys :)
[22:48]  * rbelem hugs tightly Riddell 
[22:51]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:23] <Mamarok> Riddell: congrats :)
[23:52] <greyback> Riddell: good news, happy to hear it :)