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SimoneHello!!00:26
BarkingFishmorning Simone :)00:26
BarkingFishAnything we can do to help you at all?00:26
SimoneOh, thanks00:27
SimoneToday is my first time here00:28
SimoneI'm trying to understand how it works00:28
SimoneIs this chat to help people to use kubuntu?00:30
mydogsnameisrudyyes00:31
SimoneReally? This is great!00:31
Laiamif you don't know what category something is under for the system settings you can use the search tool to highlight the ones that contain what the keyword related to what your looking for00:33
Simoneand in my screen do I see just what is said to me or everybody's questions?00:36
yofeleveryones00:39
yofelif someone says your name Simone the message will be highlighted00:39
yofelyou can open private discussions with someone too00:40
Simoneoh, thanks00:41
Simonehow can I see everyone's complete  name?00:42
SimoneI see jus the beginning00:42
BarkingFishwhat IRC client are you using, Simone?00:42
BarkingFishif it's xchat, you can just move your mouse to the bar which splits the message area from the user list, and when you put your mouse there, the pointer changes to a different symbol.00:44
BarkingFishJust click when you see that symbol, hold your mouse button down, and drag the user list so that you can see more of the user's names00:44
BarkingFishYou can see the bar clearly in xchat, because it's marked with 3 dots stacked on each other00:45
SimoneI got it, thanks again00:45
BarkingFishno problem00:45
SimoneHow can I know my IRC client? Is that one I recievied in my e-mail when I did my kubuntu account?00:48
BarkingFishSimone, the IRC client is simply the program you're using to get onto IRC00:50
BarkingFishit's the name of the program you're using - for example, mine is xchat - there are others, like quassel, kvirc, and irssi00:51
Simoneok, I'm using quassel00:52
BarkingFishThere are 2 parts to every IRC connection - your client (which is quassel) and the server, which is probably chat.freenode.net00:53
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BarkingFishSo if you don't mind me asking - were you using Linux as an operating system before you came onto Kubuntu, or were you using something else?00:54
SimoneI always used Windows00:57
BarkingFishSame here, Simone - I left Windows almost 12 years ago now, and started using linux - it was difficult at first, but like all things, you slowly get used to it.  It took me about a year before I was really good enough to help people.00:59
GH0I am unable to mount devices such as External USB Drives, CD/DVD's, and other similar devices. I have checked the User Management and I do have privileges to mount such devices, and I am a part of the plugdev group. This seems to be a multiple user issue, and is not related to a specific user account.00:59
BarkingFishGH0, what version of Kubuntu are you using please?00:59
GH0Linux server 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 20:45:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:59
GH0 11.1000:59
GH0Woops, didn't mean to newline right there, sorry about that.00:59
BarkingFishNo problem, just separates the two things for me :)01:00
BarkingFishGH0, are you able to mount them from a terminal, using sudo?01:01
GH0I take it you mean sudo mount -a?01:01
BarkingFishno, mount them specifically01:01
SimoneBecause people that talked to me always used windows,01:01
GH0Haven't tried mounting the device specifically.01:01
GH0Hold on.01:02
BarkingFishsudo mount -a only mounts what is in your fstab01:02
Simoneso I am trying it alone01:02
BarkingFishif the device doesn't have an fstab entry, as far as I remember, sudo mount -a won't mount it01:02
GH0How would I determine what device it is? Since all that is listed in Dolphin is just the name of the partition.01:02
BarkingFishGH0, where do your hard drives and things mount to? Mine go to /media01:03
GH0Stupid hot keys01:04
GH0Well, I don't know. I don't have anything listed in media except for a temp folder. I have a feeling my media folder permissions are messed up.01:04
BarkingFishcould you do me a favor please?01:05
GH0ls -l lists permission on my media folder as: drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2012-03-04 18:28 media01:05
SimoneHere, I'm using as dual boot01:05
BarkingFishGH0, could you open a terminal, something like konsole - and type:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit01:07
GH0Done01:07
BarkingFishI'm going to ask you to paste up the contents of your fstab and other files, this just makes it easier :)01:07
BarkingFishright, could you now type in that konsole:   pastebinit /etc/fstab01:07
BarkingFishyou will get a URL back in your terminal, could you please paste that url in here?01:08
GH0http://paste.ubuntu.com/922721/01:08
BarkingFishexcellent, thank you :)01:08
BarkingFishone moment while I go look at it01:08
BarkingFish0.001:09
BarkingFishThat's... unusual.01:09
BarkingFishGuys, anyone who has a good sense of how to fix a filing system, could you please come help me with this?  GH0, per his fstab, has all drives plugged in, mounting in /srv01:10
BarkingFishwhich I'm pretty sure, is wrong to the point of exceptional wrongness :)01:10
GH0Yeah, that would be smething I manually did.01:10
GH0:)01:10
GH0Mainly because the machine acts as a file server.01:11
GH0 /srv/ seemed like the best place to put them.01:11
BarkingFishmy machine acts as a file server too, it's part of a massive bluetooth Personal area network, but I still mount everything in /media :D01:12
GH0The USB Drive doesn't actually show up in fstab though.01:13
BarkingFishis that USB drive mounted, or not, GH0?01:13
GH0noaXess, it won't mount currently.01:14
GH0Nor will a CD that I have in my CD Drive bay.01:14
BarkingFishright, let me do something - can you disconnect that USB drive please?01:14
GH0Shows up like this: http://imgur.com/D6Rpi & yes, unplugged.01:15
BarkingFishdo you know what filing system is on it? like ntfs, ext4 or something?01:15
GH0ext3 or ext4 I believe.01:15
SimoneThanks a lot for your help :-)01:15
BarkingFishok, well here's what I'd like you to do.01:15
BarkingFishNo problem, Simone - you're welcome01:15
BarkingFishcome back anytime01:15
Simone;-)01:16
SimoneGood night01:16
BarkingFishGH0, can you reattach your USB drive please?01:16
BarkingFishgood night, Simone01:16
GH0Alright01:16
BarkingFishand in konsole, can you now type: dmesg01:16
BarkingFishyou'll get a lot of stuff pass your eyes, and at the bottom, it will show you a device being attached, and give you a /dev address for it01:17
GH0Yep, sdf01:18
GH0http://pastebin.com/4k15utDg < dmesg log01:18
BarkingFishexcellent!  can you now type into the konsole: sudo mkdir /media/test01:18
BarkingFishwhat I'm doing is creating a mountpoint for the drive01:19
GH0Yep01:19
BarkingFishok - now I would like you to do this please - sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/test -t ext401:20
BarkingFishif it doesn't mount, or says it's the wrong FS, try the same command with ext3 at the end01:20
GH0It does mount, and mounts the Optware volume that was shown in the picture.01:21
BarkingFishbrilliant. Can you just confirm you can see the data on the drive by doing - cd /media/test01:21
BarkingFishand then ls -al01:21
GH0Yep, I see the files, and their permissions.01:21
BarkingFish:)01:21
BarkingFishNow what you need to do is to add an entry for that drive, into your fstab01:22
BarkingFishhave you ever used vim tiny before, GH0?01:23
GH0Yes, I do know how to use vim/nano and create an fstab line, I shouldn't have to do that for every single device I ever plug into my machine? At one point, I was able to just use the USB Icon in the bottom right of the screen and just ask it to mount the storage volume. Now it doesn't do that, which is what I am trying tofix.01:23
BarkingFishIf this is something which has only occurred recently, like since you changed kernel or something, I'd recommend you file a bug for it - if your permissions haven't changed, or anything like that, this is probably your best way round.01:25
BarkingFishI was simply trying to check that the drive would actually mount01:25
GH0This has happened for a while, I just don't remember what happened when it failed, and I have been needing to fix it for sometime.01:26
BarkingFishI might be able to drag one of our more experienced people in to help you with this then :)01:26
GH0That would be awesome. Because it has been quite annoying. :)01:27
BarkingFishyofel, are you about still? and if so, would you mind popping in and giving GH0 a hand please?01:27
yofelbarely01:27
* yofel reads backlog01:27
BarkingFishhi yofel - sorry to bother you with this - long story cut very short - GH0 has drives which won't mount through the usb icon on the desktop, but which used to. I've confirmed the drive will mount though, but the desktop USB icon flatly says it can't mount them. No perms changes, nothing mounts on contact anymore - cd's, USB, etc01:29
BarkingFish*USB icon/device notifier01:29
BarkingFishI have to go to bed now, since I'm up for work in 6 hours time, and it's 2.30am here now - I just didn't want to leave GH0 high and dry, so to speak01:31
GH0Not entirely sure if the privileges and groups may have gotten messed up, or permissions, but I really don't think so.  Thanks for your help BarkingFish01:31
yofelgn BarkingFish01:32
BarkingFishYou're welcome, I'm just sorry I don't have the knowledge (or the time) to fix it myself without bothering others :)01:32
yofelhm01:32
BarkingFishnight yofel - take care01:32
yofelas you've confirmed that the kernel and udev work fine, the last things that can fail here I think are udisks, solid and the applet itself01:34
yofelGH0: can you run 'udisks --monitor', plug the device out or in and see if it's being noticed?01:35
GH0It does see the USB Drive being ejected and added to the host.01:36
GH0http://pastebin.com/1JS6Yxk001:36
yofellooks right01:36
yofelare you using kde 4.7 or 4.8?01:37
GH0KDE 4.7.401:38
GH0Would these be the proper groups to be a part of to be able to hot plug devices? http://pastebin.com/JP9qn8g401:39
yofelthe ones for andrew look right, all the default groups are there01:40
yofelGH0: can you please run kdebugdialog, enable the debug output of kded, kded4 and kio_devices, then open konsole and run 'tail -f .xsession-errors' and see what messages you get when you plug the device in?01:42
GH0Would kded be phonon?01:44
DaskreechGH0: No01:44
yofelno, kded4 should be fine01:44
GH0Well, I have kded4, but I have 601 phonon (kded module) listed, so just wanted to check.01:45
GH0Alright, give me just a sec01:45
GH0Here is the output for two different users (both of which experience the problem): http://pastebin.com/C07qZxLz01:48
yofelhm, that doesn't say anything. Maybe needs a session restart to take effect, or it's the difference in kde versions. Here's what I'm seeing when I plug something in: http://paste.kde.org/45464601:52
GH0For the record, I don't know what device is /dev/sr001:52
yofel /dev/sr0 is you first cd drive01:52
yofel*your01:52
yofelI'm off to bed too now though, maybe someone else can help you more, sorry01:53
GH0Well, like I said, I don't have a kded listed: http://imgur.com/XbTzS01:54
GH0I have 601 and 7020 but whatever kded is numerically, isn't there.01:54
yofelit should be 7020 what you need01:56
GH0Alright, well, I will try logging in and logging out and see if that helps.01:56
Daskreech601 Phonon threads?01:56
GH0noaXess, 601 is what is listed in kdebugdialog01:58
GH0Woops. No, Daskreech ^01:59
Daskreechahok02:01
GH0Yeah, what is listed in the log file is the only thing that I am seeing show up.02:02
GH0Object::disconnect: No such slot QObject::dataUpdated(QString,Plasma::DataEngine::Data)02:02
GH0Object::disconnect:  (sender name:   '/org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdg3')02:02
GH0Object::disconnect: No such slot QObject::dataUpdated(QString,Plasma::DataEngine::Data)02:02
GH0Object::disconnect:  (sender name:   '/org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdg1')02:02
GH0I do think that is interesting though, as sdg is the current USB Device I am trying to mount.02:02
mujihello there, could anyone help me with turning down the sensitivity of my laptop's touchpad mouse?02:05
GH0Eh, I will be right back. Going to see if restarting my x session will see if I can get a debug dialog.02:08
GH0Sorry, the only way I got it to work was by enabling all debug output and restarting X (or my server)02:16
GH0http://pastebin.com/3JW95WS002:16
mujiso does anyone know how to turn down sensitivity on my laptops touchpad?02:18
GH0It is incredibly similar (if not the same) as yofel's.02:18
GH0muji, have you opened up System Settings and checked under "Input Devices"02:19
GH0I currently don't use Kubuntu on a laptop, but I would suspect that it is under there.02:19
mujiyea i checked there but there was nothing bout sensitivity02:19
GH0Do you have an "Advanced" tab under touchpad?02:21
GH0Also, be right back, need to restart one last time.02:24
GH0Alright.02:28
mujiGH0, i couldn't find the advance tab02:37
GH0muji, not sure then. Like I said, I don't use Kubuntu on a laptop, so I am not sure.02:42
mujimk, thanks anyways, hopefully google will be my friend02:42
GH0Could be dependent on whatever driver package was loaded for your touchpad too.02:42
Daskreechmuji: Try Synaptiks02:48
Daskreech!info ksynaptics02:48
ubottuPackage ksynaptics does not exist in oneiric02:48
mujilol tough02:52
mujibut i'l look it up02:52
GH0For anyone that would be able to help me out with anymore information, or tests that I could perform, I have posted the information here:" http://www.overclock.net/t/1241202/unable-to-mount-a-drive-in-kde-kubuntu-11-10/0_50 ", I need to head to bed as I have classes tomorrow morning. I appreciate everyones help so far.02:52
GH0muji, try sudo apt-get install synaptic02:53
mujis02:54
mujiah i was typing in tiks*02:54
GH0Actually, nevermind.02:54
GH0Thats synaptic package manager probably02:54
mujiballs.....02:54
mujitoo late now lol02:54
GH0No worries, it won't hurt if you install it.02:55
KarmaComaHello, I basically had Kubuntu 12.04 installed from scratch, and yesterday I opened muon and installed gnome, when I'm logged-in in gnome3 and I make a restart order it freezes at some point while the screen of Kubuntu and the blinking dots is on, any help please why I can't restart my computer02:55
GH0Oh, no, I was right: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto02:55
GH0It is the package manager, not the touchpad.02:55
mujiyea02:55
GH0Well, you can always use Synaptic to find the touchpad driver. :P02:56
KarmaComais my problem a hopless one?02:56
KarmaComawhy i get no answers02:56
KarmaComahopeless02:57
DaskreechKarmaComa: waht is installed from scratch?02:57
KarmaComaKubuntu02:57
mujilol yea tnx gh002:57
KarmaComaand i installed gnome from Kubuntu's muon02:57
DaskreechKarmaComa: Are you logging in from GDM?02:57
KarmaComaLightdm02:57
DaskreechOh hmm well I think that shuld be patched to allow Gnome to shutdown02:57
KarmaComayeah, that's so weird02:58
KarmaComait freezes after 5 seconds when i press shutdown, and just keep the Kubuntu blue screen and the dots02:58
DaskreechKarmaComa: can you jump terminals?03:00
Daskreech should probably have something in Term 1 for the shutdown sequence03:01
KarmaComabut i'm not logged-in ubuntu now, would you please wait for me 3 minutes to login ubuntu, just got obsessed with the idea trying windows 8 :)03:02
Daskreech:-)03:02
mujiah found it! it was under utilities lol03:02
Daskreechmuji: Wheee :)03:02
KarmaComajust 3 minutes, brb03:02
mujiso who wants to help me with my C++ now? lol03:03
KarmaComaDaskreech: i have my terminal opened now, thanks btw for your care :)03:07
KarmaComathen what?03:07
DaskreechKarmaComa: I meant a virtual terminal03:19
DaskreechWhen you start up and shutdown the messages are shown in the terminal03:19
DaskreechYou could probably start up with No splash if they haven't disabled that by now03:20
KarmaComai have no problems with the start up its so fine, but how i can disable the splash while shutting down?03:20
Daskreechshould begone then too03:39
SJrI'm having a problem with youtube where some colors are inverted03:51
bazhangblue-ish?03:52
SJrnot sure what colors03:52
SJrare inverted03:52
bazhangtried going to full screen then disabling hw acceleration?03:53
SJrthat fixed it03:55
SJroddly being in full screen mode didn't have that problem03:55
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CQhello, iḿ trying to upgrade to 12.04 beta2 from 11.10 and don have the 2.5G available that it wants... is there a way to download the packages to another location, i,e. symlink /var/lib/apt somewhere else or something like that?09:36
brentyhey guys i have a question about dolphin..09:41
brentyis there a way to only have one instance of dolphin and open other things in a new tab?09:42
ultrixxsure09:43
brentyi mean like say dolphin is already open. if you try to open another instance, set it to just add a new tab?09:43
brentyclicking on the home folder icon would add a new tab to the already open dolphin for the home folder..09:44
ultrixxctrl+t09:44
brentyi know that.. but can dolphin be set to a single instance mode?09:44
brentysay if dolphin is already open. trying to open another instance would just open another tab, like in a web browser..09:47
zuriaake有中国人吗09:50
brentyPueblo chino.09:52
brentythese new updates just now became available in kubuntu bacports kde-zeroconf kdenetwork-filesharing kopete kppp libkopete409:59
brentyanyone know of any troubles with the updates>10:00
kronos1987http://www.AWSurveys.com?R=kronos198710:16
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Donniemoin11:12
BluesKajHey all11:34
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XabsterHow do I make transmission my default .torrent and .magnet handler? I see no relevant entry in the default applications12:31
BluesKajXabster, I believe if you try to DL a torrent file then a dialog will pop up asking which application to use , click on the open file option and navigate to /usr/bin , the choose transmission in the list ...that's the usual method iirc12:36
luiz_xxxx12:36
XabsterBluesKaj, that might work for .torrent, but for magnets it says ... nevermind12:37
Xabsteri tried all sorts of things, but now suddenly transmission was available12:37
Xabsteri really think there's a timer that updates what applications i have available12:37
XabsterSkype also turned up in my start menu after 12 hours and a reboot12:38
BluesKajXabster, I haven't used transmission in a while. Ktorrent was buggy so began using qbittorrent which has alot more optional settings and being the only torrent client after removing ktorrent qbittorrent became the default automatically12:39
Linkmasterhow do you get subtitles to work with dragon player?12:39
BluesKajLinkmaster, good question , no idea , I don't see any options for subtitles in dragonplayer , altho VLC  does provide them12:43
LinkmasterBluesKaj: thats where I'm at =P I'm going to install kaffeine then, since I have yet to go wrong with that, I just wanted to see if Dragon player could do it or not12:44
Linkmasterhmm..12:48
GirlyGirlLinkmaster: try "smplayer"12:48
LinkmasterBluesKaj: kaffeine plays the file at super speed, it takes it twenty seconds to play a 2 hour movie12:48
BluesKajVLC is the best player, but one has to explore it's settings to become familiar with it , but once you figure out how it works etc (the videolan site is helpful)  it's options are really quite amazing12:49
LinkmasterI dislike VLC because its so..annoying =P like, it just bothers me for some reason. its player isn't nice like kaffeine/dragon player, though it *can* play everything in the world, and its menues are annoying to attempt to navigate. if they fix that, then I'd use it all the time12:50
luiz_cc12:56
luiz_vv12:57
BluesKajGirlyGirl, smplayer is ok but it doesn't use the DD and DTS digital passthru in it's audio playback altho it does recognize the codecs stream , it just passes it in pcm form13:07
BluesKajnot a player for HT pcs13:07
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LinkmasterGirlyGirl_: smplayer is doing the trick, thank you13:17
GirlyGirl_Linkmaster: You find vlc's navigation poor but like smplayer!13:18
Linkmasterits because smplayer I had to do nothing to make it work. I don't like how it looks, but it is doing the trick for me(subtitles, and doesn't fast forward)13:20
GirlyGirl_Linkmaster: Its not meant to look nice, its supposed to be a complete frontend for mplayer ... so it gets good framerates and can be configured a lot13:22
XabsterI'm unable to launch synaptic package manager... it asks for password and i enter it correctly and then nothing happens (the dialog disappears and then nothing)... the password is correct 100% sure13:23
LinkmasterWhich is fine, it does the trick, and thats what really counts. Note here, I'm unhappy with kaffeine/dragonplayer not because of how it looks, but how it *works*. thats why I'm using smplayer at the moment =P13:23
BluesKajXabster, try launching synaptic from the terminal , kdesudo synaptic13:27
Xabsterthat works13:28
BluesKajok Xabster , now close it and try launching it from the kmenu13:29
ubuntu_hey I have got a problem with instalation ubuntu13:29
BluesKajubuntu_, ubuntu or kubuntu ?13:30
ubuntu_instaler don't see my partitions on disk13:30
GirlyGirl_ubuntu_: This channel is for kubuntu support13:30
Xabsterthat worked too, BluesKaj, but it doesn't work in my launcher still (synapse launcher)13:30
ubuntu_Kubutnu13:30
ubuntu_sorty for my nick13:30
ubuntu_*sorry13:30
BluesKajXabster, ok , it does work from quicklauncher in the panel13:31
BluesKajubuntu_, what are the partitions formatted to ext and linux swap etc13:32
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ubuntu_ext4  swap and one with windows 713:33
GirlyGirl_ubuntu_: in terminal check output of "lsblk"13:33
ubuntu_http://pastebin.com/XKq1kkyh13:34
BluesKajubuntu_, too many partiions13:36
ubuntu_from count user and from root it looks the same13:36
ubuntu_there is limit of partitons?13:37
BluesKajyes 4 primary only13:38
ubuntu_i have 3 primary and rest is extendet13:39
ubuntu_its look strange13:39
BluesKajubuntu_, do, sudo fdisk -l13:40
BluesKajpastebin the output13:40
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ubuntu_http://pastebin.com/gNyZ7LJd13:41
BluesKajlooks like too many primaries to me , ubuntu_13:42
lordievaderHello13:42
BluesKajyou should use foilders instead of separate partitions for your data , ubuntu_13:43
BluesKajerr folders13:43
ubuntu_big disk so many patitions13:43
BluesKajtoo many13:43
ubuntu_i have error cause gparted show me that full disk is unallocated13:45
GH0yofel, if you are available, I have archived all of the information that we talked about yesterday here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1241202/unable-to-mount-a-drive-in-kde-kubuntu-11-10/0_50#post_16937829 . I was also able to get kdebugdialog to output things to the xsession file and my kded Automounter Settings look exactly the same as yours do.13:51
tomaszhi13:57
tomaszi have problem with kubuntu 12.04 beta 2 and daily13:58
tomaszlivecd dont work on my notebook13:58
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for that tomasz13:59
tomaszi see black screen when desktop should show on13:59
tomaszi have 945GM intel graphic13:59
bazhang!12.04 | tomasz14:00
ubottutomasz: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+114:00
tomaszok14:00
tomaszbut i have kubuntu 12.04 beta 214:00
tomaszlike in topic14:00
bazhangthats the same channel14:00
bazhang /join #ubuntu+1 tomasz14:01
tomaszo14:01
tomaszok14:01
TrivialUserI have problem with compiz. I can't run ccsm. When I try to run it through terminal I get segmentation fault after "Skipping upgrade com.canonical.unity.unity.01.upgrade14:19
TrivialUserSkipping upgrade com.canonical.unity.unity.02.upgrade". Maybe I should have installed it from other repository?14:19
TrivialUserTher is also "Profile: unity" message after running ccsm.14:20
Tm_TTrivialUser: compiz? try asking in #ubuntu14:22
lordievaderTrivialUser, if you are using unity perhaps it is a good idea to be asking this in #ubuntu, this is Kubuntu, Kubuntu does not use unity/14:22
Tm_Tor compiz14:22
lordievaderIndeed14:22
TrivialUserNo. I actually use Kubuntu.14:22
Tm_Tstill, you're most likely to get help with compiz there14:23
Tm_Ts/most/more/14:23
TrivialUserOk.14:23
lordievaderTrivialUser, In kubuntu there is no need for compiz, kwin does most of the things compiz does.14:23
Tm_Thmm14:24
BluesKajyeah , compiz is mostly redundant in kubuntu14:24
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fooscriptHello! I installed Win7 next to my Ubuntu. MBR has been overwritten. Could you advice me any tutorial  (Kubuntu Oneric, one HDD, i have grub.conf and fdisk -l listing)15:05
Tm_T!restoregrub | fooscript15:06
ubottufooscript: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub15:06
fooscriptTm_T:  Thank you15:07
Xabsterthe volume control notification has my secondary audio output set as default and i can't figure out how to change that15:13
Xabsterany hints?15:13
Xabsterforget that lol15:14
Xabsterit's just not in the settings, it has its own menu-entry in the popu15:14
werner_Hi :) I upgraded my Kubuntu now URLs with wildcards don;t work anymore in Konqueror . Is there seomething I can do to make it work again? I live off that stuff!15:15
werner_E.g. this used to work "/tmp/*.log"15:16
werner_Now it displays nothing :S15:16
lordievaderwerner_, would it normally display all of the .log files?15:19
werner_lordievader: Yes it would! It (was) an awesome feature15:20
werner_lordievader: Even stuff like "/tmp/*log*foo*bar*" worked. Made my life easier. Not I'm just sad.15:20
lordievaderYou can also just use a terminal for that, "sudo cat /tmp/*.log" usefull to pipe it to less to make it readable "sudo cat /tmp/*.log | less"15:21
Guest62751hi15:24
lordievaderGuest23901, hello15:25
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Marcelo80hola15:25
Marcelo80alguien que hable español?15:25
lordievader!spanish15:25
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:25
werner_lordievader: Thanks, but I really miss it in Konqueror15:27
lordievaderwerner_, I don't have any experience in Konqueror that is why I cannot further assist you with that. I just thought that the terminal thing could be a solution, perhaps someone else here knows a fix, or you could try the ubuntuforums.org.15:28
werner_lordievader: Thanks for your help15:29
lordievaderwerner_, sure no problem. Hope you are able to fix your problem.15:30
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yofelGH0: hm, I fear I'm out of ideas now too, as that does look right from all I know o.O15:35
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alesanhi, how can I disable the sounds? when I login logout etc?16:21
alesansystemwide, not only for my user16:21
ct529hi everybody16:24
ct529today I upgraded one of our production machine to 11.10 using do-release-upgrade16:24
ct529result: the entire day spent by the process, and a machine that cannot be used16:24
ct529who the heck is managing that script?16:25
yofelct529: Ubuntu update manager maintainers16:25
yofelwhat happened?16:26
ct529yofel: a disaster: installed akernel but not the drivers, then the drivers, but lost all configuration (which was the reason we used do-release-update in the first place)16:29
ct529yofel: it would have been easier to say that we have to reinstall16:30
yofelct529: the kernel and drivers are bundled together, unless you mean dkms ones. And how did you loose the configuration?16:33
ct529yofel: I know that .... the problem is that it installed the kernel, but then at reboot did not reload the correct ones (including the network)16:35
ct529yofel: hence back to loading them by hand16:35
ct529yofel: with modprobe16:36
ct529yofel: but at that point, all configuration was lost: network, wireless , ....16:36
* yofel has no idea how that would happen16:37
yofelI've never had an upgrade fail that bad so far16:37
yofelgot the upgrade logs?16:37
sky100hello16:37
ct529yofel: I think the problem was that it upgraded the kernbel to 3.0.0.17 from security16:37
ct529yofel: wait16:38
BluesKajnope , most upgrades are usually fine , unless the OS wasn't updated before upgrading to the next OS16:38
ct529yofel: there are so many logs to wade through, that it is easier to reinstall from scratch16:40
ct529yofel: it has even change the dm from kdm to gdm .... I have just booted into unity on a machien that had kubuntu16:41
BluesKajct529:  did you udate/upgrade before upgrading the OS , if not then sometimes OS upgrades will have dependency problems16:42
nvdruverhow can i restart the sound system (speaker-test doesn't work anymore) without restarting kdm?16:42
ct529BluesKaj: I did not apt-get upgrade before do-release-upgrade.16:43
BluesKajsudo alsa -force reload, nvdruver16:43
nvdruverBluesKaj: thanks16:43
nvdruverbut still no sound :(16:44
nvdruverhow can i know which nvidia drivers i'm using, and which drivers should i use to play games?16:44
BluesKajyou only need one nvidia driver nvdruver , just make sure it's the correct one , the recommended one in system>addtional drivers16:45
BluesKajgoota go for a while ...BBL16:46
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sky100hey BluesKaj16:47
sky100can u help me a bit ..16:47
sky100i want to run an .exe file in linux .16:47
nvdruvernvidia_current is activated but not currently in use16:47
sky100i know LINUX wont run any .exe file .. how to resolve it16:48
nvdruversky100: install wine16:48
nvdruverhow can i use nvidia_current? is this the one i should use to play games?16:48
bazhang!appdb | sky10016:48
ubottusky100: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:48
sky100nvdruver,  can ya get me a link for wine ?16:50
nvdruversky100: sudo apt-get install wine16:51
sky100or command16:51
nvdruverin the konsole16:51
sky100oh ok16:51
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ct529yofel: i have been able to restart it, but without using the newest kernel16:59
ct529yofel: also glx extension do not seem to working anymore17:00
ct529yofel: glxinfo and glxgeras return Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".17:00
yofellooking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log might tell something about that17:00
yofelwhat driver was used?17:01
ct529[    30.290] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)17:02
ct529yofel: the nvidia-current17:02
ct529yofel: that was what was installed before17:02
yofelis that still installed?17:02
OxymoronAnyone using Doxygen in here?17:03
ct529yofel: yes it is .... it loads correctly, but the as you can see by the line I posted from the Xorg.0.lofg file, the glx extension seems to be missing17:03
ct529yofel: x-swat is not in the source.list .... but still the nvidia-current should be available17:05
yofelyou you pastebin your Xorg.0.log?17:06
GirlyGirlI have a problem since kde 4.7.4 and up. kwin freezes with blur on. If i install driconf and set the property "Performance" -> "Enable limited ARB_fragment_shader support on 915/945", to "No", then it works fine. However doing that now makes unity fail!17:06
yofel*can you17:06
sky100is there no way to run .exe on linux machine other than getting WINE ? nvdruver17:06
nvdruversky100: don't think so17:07
sky100ok17:07
ct529yofel: yep17:07
ct529yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/923610/17:08
yofelct529: do you get an error when running 'sudo modprobe nvidia' ?17:10
ct529yofel: yes, I do .... :-(17:11
GirlyGirlsky100: mono does that but not in the way you are expecting17:11
ct529yofel: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module nvidia_current17:11
ct529yofel: blacklisted17:11
yofelO.O17:12
ct529yofel: I cannot understand what driver it is using though .... the monitor is now working17:12
yofelVESA17:12
sky100ok17:13
sky100GirlyGirl,17:13
ct529yofel: indeed ....17:13
ct529yofel: I wonder why it is blacklisted .... I have just uninstalled it and reinstalled it again .... still blacklisted17:14
yofeldoes grepping through /etc/modprobe.d/ yield anything about nvidia?17:14
ct529yofel: this is what I am doing at the moment17:15
ct529yofel: nothing in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf17:15
ct529yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/923631/ look at this ....17:17
ct529yofel: where does it come from????17:17
yofelwell, blame blacklist-local.conf, but I don't know where that would come from17:18
ct529yofel: I just remove it .... so there is one file blacklisting nvidia_current and the next one blacklisting nouveau17:19
ct529yofel: I cannot believe it17:19
yofelah, the next one was installed by the driver, as nouveau needs to be blacklisted when nvidia-current is used17:20
ct529yofel: yes, I know that .... what I mean is that it cannot load any specific driver with this configuration17:20
yofelyeah, that's true17:21
BluesKajodd yofel , nouveau isn't blacklisted here.,running nvidia-current17:21
yofel...17:21
ct529BluesKaj: strange, it is one of the first thing to do one installs a nvidia driver17:22
ct529BluesKaj: I remember you had to do it manually before17:22
BluesKajyes a while back , but i did a clean install last week and no blacklistng was required17:22
BluesKajyofel: ^17:23
yofelcould be they changed that recently, but I don't know how. I'm currently on nouveau17:23
ct529BluesKaj: yofel: is there a way of loading the nvidia_current without rebooting?17:24
yofelwell, try modprobe again17:24
BluesKajyes , stop kdm at the tty , then install the driver , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx17:25
ct529yofel: that works, but I wonder if it is actually using the nvidia or if I have to stop the X server17:25
criten88Hi17:25
yofelyou'll have to restart X17:25
criten88Can anyone help me getting the ATI drivers to work?17:25
ct529BluesKaj: what do you mean stop it at the tty? can I just ctrl+shift+f1?17:26
BluesKajyes17:26
BluesKajthat's the tty17:26
criten88Every time i try to get them installed it fails with errors.17:26
BluesKajcriten88:  which ati card , and how are you installing?17:27
criten88BluesKaj: raedon HD Mobil 5-series17:27
criten88at first i tried just activating them through the additional drivers application17:28
criten88then i wen't to ATIs website and tried installing that and it also failed17:28
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criten88the additial drivers app told me to check the jocky.log file http://pastebin.com/dw3UXfX817:29
BluesKajcriten88:  usually additional drivers will work if you chose the recomended driver17:29
criten88Not this time : ]17:30
ct529_BluesKaj: yofel: it seem to have worked17:30
ct529_BluesKaj: are you using nvidia_current?17:31
BluesKajct529_:  try enabling desktop effects in system settings , then you'l know for sure17:31
BluesKajct529_:  yes , nvidia-current17:31
BluesKajct529_ or run this in the konsole , apt-cache policy nvidia-current17:37
ct529yofel: BluesKaj: rebooted. glxinfo, glxgears and glxdemo now work but not comparable with what it was with 11:04 + nvidia binary driver17:38
ct529BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/923672/17:39
BluesKajcriten88:  you wouldn't happen to have one of those laptops with dual gpus ?17:39
criten88BluesKaj: I don't think so....17:39
criten88BluesKaj: It's just a lenovo z565, only was like 500$ so i  doubt it17:39
criten88haha17:39
BluesKajcriten88:  ojk :)17:40
ct529BluesKaj: yofel: drop in performances is consistent: before around 7500 FPS now 6000 FPS17:41
BluesKajct529:  that depends on the size of the glx image17:42
GH0yofel, if you are still around, I did end up getting some output from kdebugdialog: http://pastebin.com/TPeCLnLr Seems to mirror or mimic yours very closely.17:42
BluesKajFPS17:42
ct529BluesKaj: nope the FPS with the standard glxgears image17:42
yofelGH0: I saw, but as that looks fine, I don't know what to look for next :(17:43
ct529BluesKaj: when you resise and drag both the test glxgears and glxdemo, now the image is all jumpy17:43
GH0How does it automount? It works fine if I kdesudo for root, it will automatically mount the drive to media. Maybe it is a permissions issue, but, I don't know where or how to determine that.17:43
GH0kdesudo dolphin*17:44
BluesKajct529:  I get about 300 FPS with full screen , on 1920x180 resolution17:45
BluesKaj108017:45
ct529BluesKaj: glxgears?17:45
BluesKajyup ,nvidia 7600gt ...old card at that17:46
ct529BluesKaj: I get around 1200, not good enough .... but I am chatting to you as well!17:46
ct529BluesKaj: 1920 x 120017:46
ct529BluesKaj: the image is very jumpy when resizing, this is not goo17:47
ManDayWhere is a list of all the software that ships with Kubunut by default?17:47
ct529BluesKaj: *no good17:47
BluesKajwish we had that 6 sided cube that was availble for ati cards fglrxgears or some such ...tyhat's a real test17:47
prox_ManDay: distrowatch.com17:47
ct529BluesKaj: mmmm .... never had that. I have an old laptop with ATI Radeon Mobility X700, not bad card really!17:48
ManDayprox_: Where there?17:49
ct529ManDay: packages.ubuntu.com17:49
ManDay?17:49
ManDayI think you read my question wrong:17:49
ManDayI was asking what is installed by default17:49
ct529ManDay: by default where? CD, DVD or networ install?17:50
ManDaycd, i guess - anyway, I take whichever list you have17:50
ManDaydifferent question: how does mint kde compare to kubuntu?17:51
ct529I really have to go .... have a nice evening!17:54
ct529BluesKaj: yofel: thanks (a lot) for support17:54
criten88This isnt working at all... i hate ati17:55
criten88haha17:55
ManDayWell18:04
ManDayOk -.-18:05
ybitManDay: you're looking for a list of packages shipped with kubuntu?18:05
ManDayyes18:06
ybitdpkg --get-selections gives you a list of all the currently installed packages...18:06
ybithttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa i'm guessing all of these are installed by default...18:07
yofelManDay: or you can get it from the CD image manifest file http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/11.10/kubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.manifest18:07
yofelthat's what's installed on the CD18:08
ManDayHrm, yeah, good ol casper18:08
ManDayybit: thanks, that list is rather short, don't you think, though18:09
yofelas for mint I can't say much. They install a few more things by default than Kubuntu does, otherwise it's based on the same OS18:10
ManDaymaybe because of its meta packages pulling the rest in18:10
ybitManDay: there's a next button?18:14
ManDayybit: Which makes that two pages in total18:15
ybitheh, yeah, okay18:15
yofelybit, ManDay: btw. not everything from that ppa is installed by default - doesn't fit on the CD18:15
ybitManDay: i have no clue what's installed by default, i was just throwing stuff your way18:16
ManDaythat sounded differently when you said that you had guessed ;)18:16
ManDayyofel: ok, good good18:16
ManDaythe less the better18:16
ManDayI'm a little suprised by how relatively low kubuntu rates on distrowatch18:17
ManDaysome names I've never heard before ranking above kubuntu18:17
GirlyGirlManDay: Distrowatch is not completely accurate18:18
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ManDaysure, i don't know their metric18:18
ManDayjust saying, I'm suprised18:18
BluesKajManDay:  heh , OSs there I've never heard of , whoever rates the them probly has an 'issue" with ubuntu ...maybe some the support ppl came off as rude and arrogant to him ....definitely not a stretch judging from some of my experiences there18:30
ManDayYou think they are rated by personal liking?18:33
ManDayI think they are rated according to some sort of "hits"18:33
ManDayNot to mention ubuntu and mint rate top - so your argument seems little plausible18:34
Tm_Thttp://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity18:36
Tm_Thopefully that explains how it works18:36
ManDayThat well explains why some never-heard-of distros rank so high18:39
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BluesKajhmm, my quassel experience was ok , but I'm still not convinced it's my cuppa tea.19:17
* L3top loves quassel19:22
L3topbackscrolls forever.19:23
yofelwell, an actual backlog search needs to be written by someone, but I use it because the core is splitted from the client19:28
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BluesKajyofel , expalin to me what the difference is between the core and the client ..I don't get it19:30
yofelthe client is the Quassel UI, the core is what connects to IRC. In my case the core is running on my server so I can seem online 24/719:31
BluesKajok so that what saves the chat text data for infinite backscrolling19:32
L3topI am not exactly sure to be honest. Ill figure it out.19:33
BluesKajnice feature , but i doubt that i'd use it much19:33
L3topI didn't figure I would either, but man, I move to something else and realize how much it spoils me to be able to just log on and search for a link somebody threw up 3 weeks ago19:34
yofelwell, the only odd part about quassel is that it stores the backlog in an SQL DB19:34
yofeladds flexibility, but usually just eats disk space19:35
L3topthat would explain it.19:35
* BluesKaj 's not worried about disk space19:38
BluesKajyofel, I just installed the quassle-client and core , obviously this si going to require some research on my part . Not an ordinary irc app19:41
BluesKajerr quassel19:41
agumonkeyHi all19:47
agumonkeyI stupidely `sudoed` something wrong, that installed custom bootscripts (lfs bootscripts) into kubuntu, anyone knows if there a package to reinstall {init,rc}.d ?19:49
agumonkeyaptitude install initscripts would do the job ?19:50
benbloom_is there a known issue with pandora and rekonq?20:25
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exodiusola21:44
exodiusalguien online ke hable español??21:44
Unit193!es | exodius21:45
ubottuexodius: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:45
exodiusok gracias21:46
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mirceahi everybody !! :)22:03
BarkingFishhi mircea!22:04
BarkingFishAnything we can do to help you on this wonderful night? :)22:04
Riddellhi mircea22:04
BarkingFishEvening Riddell :)  How's everything?22:05
Riddellvery good thanks22:05
mirceaumm.....sure, but it's kinda silly my problem...22:05
Riddelljust browsing the twitter search for kubuntu, lots of posts tonight for some reason22:05
BarkingFishmircea, When you've sat in here helping for long enough, nothing is ever silly :D22:06
mirceaok..22:06
BarkingFishso what can we do for you, mircea?22:08
mirceain the kickoff application launcher, next to the username and pc name, why is changing the logo of Kubuntu into K KDE Desktop ?22:10
mirceai kinda liked it more when it was just Kubuntu :))22:10
peexRiddel: congratulations!22:12
BarkingFishwell that one has got me, mircea - it's always been the KDE logo on my kickoff launcher.22:12
peexRiddel: Does this also mean that netrunner and kubuntu move together even a bit more?22:12
BarkingFishRiddell, any clues on that one?22:12
mokushRiddell: congrats! you're the reason of the new activity on twitter22:12
mirceaok, thank  you BarkingFish :)22:13
Riddellmircea: the top right of kickoff should be a kubuntu logo22:13
RiddellI forget where that's set though22:14
mirceai know Riddell, it was Kubuntu in the beginning but then it changed..22:15
mokushmircea: compatriot, you can just right click the plasmoid, go to 'application launcher settings'. then select the current icon, select 'other icons', and you'll be able to select the kubuntu logo from there.22:15
Riddellmircea: got kubuntu-default-settings installed?22:18
mirceathanks a lot mokush, but unfortunately in my case there isn't any kubuntu logo for me waiting there at Other Icons22:18
mirceaRiddell...i have no idea..i'm new to Kubuntu22:19
mirceait's alright guys, i can live with it :), thanks a lot to everyone that wanted to help22:21
mokushmircea: look for it under System Icons > Places, it should be there22:21
peexyes, there should be one (in my case it is the 6th last symbol)22:26
mokushRiddell: is the name change going to happen?22:27
mirceain Places it isn't....it isn't anywhere from those categories...i just checked all of them22:27
peexmircea: have you selected another iconset than oxygen?22:28
mirceano, because the oxygen is the only one that i have22:29
mirceaand now i realize that...some of you got it all wrong, it's not the kickoff button the problem, it's just the logo next to the username22:30
mirceai gotta crash guys, thanks for your help and...have a wonderful night further22:34
mirceabye everyone :)22:34
avihayI went from kickoff to lancelot as soon as kickoff search feature got as crappy as lancelot's search, and thus offered no advantage over it22:39
Riddellmokush: no idea22:40
peexwill kubuntu 12.04 will be an lts releasy anyway?22:41
Riddellpeex: yes22:41
peexnice to hear22:41
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peexbtw: netrunner seems really smart, too. seems to be some kind of pre-configured kubuntu. so i guess blue systems is very consequent in its sponsoring. really good news22:45
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w34z3lsup22:59
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pangolinwe all did23:35
pangolintsimpson fixed it though23:35
BarkingFish:P23:35
pangolinBarkingFish, the reson ubottu barfed at you was because you did it wrong. Should be !trigger | comment23:36
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