[00:24] <Maximoto> need to use less memory. how?
[01:14] <Maximoto> how do i find some of the apps that i have downloaded and i want them in the menu
[04:57] <wxl> hm just rebooted in a long time and my oneiric network-manager seems disabled
[04:57] <wxl> can't use wireless or wired
[04:57] <wxl> i can't just "enable" either
[04:57] <wxl> or rather i can but it has no effect
[04:58] <wxl> if i try to add a new connection (all the old ones are gone???) everything's greyed out
[04:58] <wxl> any idea what's up?
[05:00] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:00] <bioterror> sudo dhclient eth0
[05:00] <wxl> that's unexpected
[05:01] <bioterror> does it work?
[05:02] <wxl> yep tho obviously that doesn't fix the wireless
[05:02] <bioterror> are you using wep or wpa?
[05:02] <wxl> wpa
[05:06] <wxl> running an upgrade now. can't imagine why that would be a problem but better safe than sorry
[05:06] <wxl> well can't imagine why given that i'm not really getting anything relevant
[05:07] <bioterror> wxl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA_Supplicant
[05:07] <bioterror> problems in network manager if that works
[05:07] <wxl> well yeah yeah but i'd actually like to fix nm-manager :)
[05:08] <bioterror> good
[05:08] <bioterror> :D
[05:08] <bioterror> good luck with that, I'm off to work
[05:08] <wxl> kthx
[05:15] <wxl> upgrade fixed it
[05:21] <frankken> anyone having the issue with flash showing up as a missing plugin in chromium and just black in firefox, have purged and reinstalled a few times already
[05:34] <frankken> anyone having trouble with flash?
[08:05] <djslim> hi
[08:07] <djslim> can i install the same graphics cards drivers as i would in ubuntu in lubuntu?
[08:08] <bioterror> yes
[08:08] <bioterror> lubuntu is just ubuntu with different desktop environment
[08:10] <djslim> ok
[08:14] <djslim> This is my 2nd attempt to install lubuntu btw
[08:16] <bioterror> djslim, it's hard to fail ;)
[08:16] <bioterror> only with partitionings
[08:17] <djslim> I added swap space and I think it was unnecessary considering I am installing to a flash drive.
[08:17] <bioterror> yes
[08:17] <bioterror> flash drive and swap does not compute well
[08:17] <djslim> I thought so
[08:17] <bioterror> and journaling file system and flash neither
[08:17] <bioterror> so EXT2 would be a good choice for a flash based system
[08:17] <djslim> ohh that explains a lot
[08:18] <bioterror> technically, you can install ext4 but disable journaling
[08:18] <djslim> Is EXT4 not fine?
[08:18] <djslim> ok, i already installed ext4. can i disable that once I boot it the first tiem
[08:18] <bioterror> yes
[08:19] <djslim> sorry i asked before googled lol. dont normally do that
[08:19] <bioterror> no problems
[08:20] <bioterror> tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdaX
[08:20] <bioterror> e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX
[11:29] <Umino> hi
[11:29] <Umino> anyone there
[11:30] <Umino> ?
[11:30] <Umino> hi njin
[11:31] <bioterror> yes
[11:31] <bioterror> Umino, how can we help you?
[11:33] <Umino> got a few problems installing lubuntu on my GFs laptop ... 1. java 2. the graphics hardware - i'm not sure if it has the right drivers / hardware acceleration enabled and so on
[11:35] <Umino> and i can't set more than 1024x768 but it looks like the screen is not running at its full resolution
[11:37] <Umino> got java working on another laptop some time ago but i forgrot how i did it
[11:38] <bioterror> Umino, you mean oracle's java?
[11:38] <bioterror> or openjava?
[11:38] <bioterror> Umino, you could generate xorg.conf and force the correct resolution
[11:39] <Umino> that one that makes java stuff on the internet work
[11:40] <Umino> thats oracles java i guess
[11:40] <bioterror> !java
[11:41] <bioterror> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 is the one that you're after
[11:42] <bioterror> Umino, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Screen_resolution_is_wrong.2C_no_matter_what_I_do
[11:43] <Umino> bioterror: how can i check wich driver is currently installed ?
[11:44] <bioterror> hmmm
[11:45] <bioterror> I've never really had that kind of problem :D
[11:45] <bioterror> that I should figure out which driver I'm using
[11:48] <Umino> well .. the thing is ... it looks like there is no hardware accelerations or something because videos (on youtube for example) are playing choppy
[11:48] <bioterror> have you checked if there's propietary drivers available?
[11:48] <Umino> how ?
[11:49] <bioterror> from the "start" menun you should find the correct application
[11:49] <Umino> the "additional drivers" thing (or whatever it is called in english - i have it running in german and there it is "zusätzliche treiber" ...
[11:49] <bioterror> your language is so beautiful ;)
[11:50] <Umino> tried that and it told me i have no proprietary drivers
[11:50] <bioterror> okay
[11:50] <Umino> the list is empty ...
[11:51] <bioterror> can you paste what tells command: lspci |grep VGA
[11:51] <Umino> i had no internet during installation of lubuntu ... is that a problem ?
[11:52] <bioterror> should not be
[11:54] <Umino> can't paste 'cause i'm chatting over my own laptop (win7) having her laptop standing next to mine ... it found a radeon RV250 (Mobillity FireGL 9000) ...
[11:55] <Umino> there also is a sticker on the laptop saysing the same ... mobility radeon 9000
[11:55] <Umino> *saying
[11:57] <bioterror> hmmm
[12:14] <Umino> i think i gotta go
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu> I GET X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Major opcode of failed request:  73 (X_GetImage)
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Serial number of failed request:  43
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Current serial number in output stream:  43 when trying x11vnc,..... any ideas ??????
[13:42] <HoNgOuRu> I get cant open display, when running x11vnc I need it for work, help... thanks
[14:27] <enroxorz> hey guys. are you guys now an official variant of ubuntu?
[14:34] <Tm_T> yes lubuntu is an officially recognised flavour
[14:34] <Tm_T> per http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[14:35] <enroxorz> sweet
[14:35] <enroxorz> thank you Tm_T
[14:35] <enroxorz> I was trying to sell this to the higher ups but they wouldnt go without an official derivative
[16:59] <hosoka> hello all
[16:59] <hosoka> Goedenavond or Goodevening :-)
[17:04] <kanliot> hi
[17:07] <micahg> FYI, there is now a list of lubuntu packages that fail to build: rebuild: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20120328-precise.html#lubuntu, main archive: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/#lubuntu
[17:08] <micahg> the rebuild ones are probably more interesting ATM
[17:16] <kanliot> what happens if they don't get fixed this month?
[17:31] <frankken> flash 11.1  works fine,   11.2  = missing plugin
[17:33] <frankken> i luv these rooms of support
[17:33] <frankken> how everyone sits here and sdoesn't say jack shit
[17:33] <frankken> lots of support going on for sure
[17:34] <kanliot> sorry
[17:34] <frankken> makes you wonder
[17:34] <kanliot> are you using the package, or the manual install?
[17:34] <frankken> wtf everyone is doing in this room to begin with
[17:35] <frankken> i've tried 100 different ways
[17:35] <frankken> if i install 11.1   it will work in both chrome and firefox
[17:35] <frankken> put in 11.2  both won't work,,, chromium complains of missing plugin
[17:35] <frankken> firefox just blank screen
[17:43] <frankken> whew, not everyone at once!
[17:43] <kanliot> try the firefox channel
[17:48] <frankken> kanliot, yea because that has something to do with nothing at all
[17:52] <kanliot> don't bitch about the advice i give you
[17:52] <Myrtti> frankken: first of all, you've not given all the information, for example which version of Lubuntu and which version of firefox/chrome. Second of all, have you tried asking in #ubuntu? the problem might not be limited to Lubuntu only. Thirdly, Adobe Flash is proprietary software and it just might be that the problem is in Flash itself, in which case there isn't that much that we can do to help. And finally, generally honey works with ...
[17:52] <Myrtti> ... bees/flies better than vinegar
[17:56] <frankken> myrtti, your right, i asssumed and that was my fault
[17:56] <frankken> its 12.04 precise thats causing the new issue
[17:56] <frankken> and i think its more limited that ubuntu or lubuntu
[17:56] <Myrtti> right, so in that case it would be #ubuntu+1 then rather than #ubuntu
[17:57] <frankken> in other words seems to work find on most machines but a couple now run into this missing plugin problem where only 11.1 flash works
[17:57] <Myrtti> and other people running *buntu have complained that there are problems - however I've not had any trouble myself so I've not had too much attention for the subject.
[17:58] <frankken> thats all fine an dandy but a support channel is not for those not experiencing problems to just sit in and ignore
[17:58] <frankken> because to the user actually wanting help it looks like ignorance of questions
[17:59] <wxl> i'm getting in the middle of this and don't know the past, but what can we do to help you at this point, frankken ?
[17:59] <frankken> i was simply hoping that some may have had a similiar issue that the support channel had helped
[17:59] <frankken> if not that fine
[17:59] <wxl> what issue is this again?
[18:00] <frankken> on some machines running 12.04       it seems flash 11.1 works in chromium and firefox but flash 11.2 comes up as missing plugin in chromium and blank screen in firefox
[18:01] <wxl> i have not personally experienced this per se
[18:01] <wxl> if no one else has, then the only thing you can do here is sit and wait
[18:01] <wxl> perhaps someone else will come up with some other experience
[18:01] <wxl> another idea would be to use the mailing list or the forums
[18:01] <wxl> have you considered those options?
[18:01] <Myrtti> I had the missing plugin problem, I ran upgrades and it was fixed. Relaunched the browser and it just works.
[18:02] <frankken> the biggest option i have considered so far is hashing out the problem in here
[18:02] <wxl> have you ran upgrades?
[18:02] <frankken> in other words shoot some ideas to me to try
[18:02] <Myrtti> so I can't really suggest anything else than just checking that you really do have the latest versions of everything in your system.
[18:02] <frankken> i have run out i've tried everything i can think of
[18:02] <wxl> frankken: you HAVE used the mailing list and forums?
[18:02] <frankken> thats what i thought a support channel was, even if you didn't have the problem one might have ideas to try
[18:02] <frankken> yes i used the forums
[18:03] <frankken> not much for the mailing list
[18:03] <wxl> that is correct, but not necessarily always true
[18:03] <frankken> some where along the way we lost that
[18:03] <wxl> i would suggest using the mailing list. many of the users/devs are more prevalent there than here
[18:03] <frankken> it used to be like that 10 or more years ago
[18:04] <wxl> what i'm saying is that if there is a clear direction to follow, we can give it to you. if not, we're in the same situation as you
[18:04] <frankken> gotcha
[18:04] <frankken> its definately strange
[18:04] <frankken> if i install 11.1  go to a site presto works
[18:04] <frankken> if i upgrade it to 11.2 no go
[18:04] <frankken> if i remove them completely and go straight to 11.2
[18:04] <frankken> nop
[18:05] <wxl> frankly i don't think it's strange. i have only expletives to use for adobe
[18:05] <frankken> if i remove and do 11.1 it works
[18:05] <frankken> i'm there with ya,
[18:06] <frankken> however i have expletives to use about most governments as well but they still exist
[18:06] <wxl> frankly i'm not much happier with google and their flash alternative for linux which is ONLY for chromium. i'm a firefox user
[18:06] <frankken> google=opensource ms
[18:06] <wxl> like you said, this is neither here nor there
[18:07] <frankken> same money, same goals (domination), same behavior
[18:07] <wxl> there has been LOTS of talk about flash lately in the linux world. someone may have a solution. try the mailing list
[18:07] <wxl> need a link?
[18:07] <frankken> sure
[18:07] <wxl> one sec
[18:08] <wxl> there ya go: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[18:11] <frankken> thx man
[18:11] <wxl> np
[18:11] <wxl> sorry i couldn't be of more help personally
[18:13] <frankken> ehhh np, i just wish the rooms would get back to hashing shit out but actually talking,
[18:13] <wxl> oh we do when we can
[18:13] <frankken> many forget thats how both of you may learn something, then again i'm ol school
[18:14] <Myrtti> please mind your language, frankken
[18:14] <Myrtti> crudeness doesn't make helping you more pleasurable
[18:14] <frankken> huh?
[18:15] <frankken> myrtti, you don't get to decide that, why is it everyone wants to impose rules on everyone else, if you don't like what i'm saying, don't read it
[18:15] <frankken> i simply saying i miss older days when the channels seemed to hash thing out more, were you around then? if so you should remember
[18:15] <Myrtti> actually, as people told you last week when you were here acting in similar ways, I then told you "you'd be surprised" what I can do.
[18:15] <frankken> if that offends you then tough
[18:16] <Myrtti> I've politely asked you to behave and mind your language, and express yourself without expletetives
[18:16] <Myrtti> I and other users of the channel would appreciate if you could do that.
[18:20] <frankken> so, i'm allowed to be here as long as i'm never upset, frustrated, or disappointed that irc support room aren't what they once were
[18:20] <frankken> don't you realize
[18:20] <frankken> the only way i even got a response out of this room was to get pissy
[18:20] <frankken> then all of you want tosay something , but i come in here with a question and let it sit
[18:20] <frankken> and no response at all...........
[18:21] <frankken> and you tell me its my faut? funny maybe its time to take a look at why getting pissed works opposed to just asking your question
[18:22] <frankken> if you scroll back , look at my question, nice and without anger, sat in here for an hour, no response what so ever
[18:22] <frankken> i get pissed you all want to talk, hmmmm yea thats my fault
[18:23] <Myrtti> I asked you questions that may help us help you, I pointed out errors in your plea for help in hope that you'd take them in tow and learn about how to ask support questions, and I also pointed out that we have some standards on how we expect people to behave on the channel
[18:23] <frankken> i was totally happy with the help i received with the link i got from wxl,,, then you had to come in and screw it all up and put me back in a crappy mood
[18:25] <frankken> an irc chat room should not be a magnet for those looking for a cyber dictatorship
[18:27] <Unit193> No, but you did get a link to the rules for this channel when joining and you weren't following them, you then got a nice reminder of them.
[18:27] <frankken> listen i'm fine now, i got what i needed, the point is it took getting upset in the channel to generate a response
[18:28] <Myrtti> please don't use that trick again
[18:28] <frankken> its not a trick if you truly got angry with being ignored
[18:31] <Myrtti> good luck with your endeavours. If you come across new problems with your Lubuntu, remember that giving some background information helps us help you
[18:32] <frankken> good luck with my endeavours LOL are you firing me? lol
[18:32] <frankken> i did have luck tracking down the issues from the other night
[18:33] <CTtechguy> lol I remember getting hammered by 4-5 people because I forgot to disable my away message
[18:33] <Myrtti> no, I'm honestly wishing you good luck in troubleshooting the problem
[18:34] <frankken> the problem from the other night ended up being an sis graphics card driver issue
[18:36]  * wxl has been around on irc for ohhhh something like 20 years. things haven't changed much.
[18:36] <wxl> people help if they can help and if they can't, they're quiet. lots are quiet because they're not even there (thanks, gnu screen!) due to time zone differences
[18:37] <wxl> one thing i have seen changed, often for the better, is guidelines for behavior so we can all get along
[18:37] <wxl> i love expletives but don't use them here ;)
[18:40] <frankken> lol
[18:43] <frankken> i will disagree though on the point that    going along to get along is a dangerous behavior and mind set
[18:44] <wxl> you're welcome to that opinion! but that doesn't mean that it's going to keep you from getting kick banned :D
[18:45] <wxl> i'll also say that NOT getting along just to not get along is pretty silly
[18:45] <frankken> ehhh, small potatoes to keep my sanity of becoming a mindless drone LOL
[18:45] <wxl> ok, enough politics for one day
[18:45] <frankken> we were getting along just fine LOL that is once you started talkin lol
[18:46] <wxl> sorry, i have a full time job to attend to, too
[18:46] <frankken> i guess silence is a pet peeve of mind
[18:46] <wxl> i could recommend a good psychologist and/or pragmatist if you like XD
[18:46] <frankken> because its hard to determine wether its just silence or if your being ignored
[18:46] <wxl> then you shouldn't make assumptions because they make a -- you know -- out of you ;)
[18:47] <frankken> wxl, now how is that not considered banable? or mean? oh yea cuz your saying it to me
[18:47] <frankken> now i don't wanna ban ya for it
[18:47] <frankken> lol
[18:47] <wxl> careful use of the language, frankken
[18:48] <wxl> it's amazing the things you can do when you put your mind to it (rather than letting your emotions rule you)
[18:48] <frankken> nah not careful use of the language, wxl, selective administration is more likely lol
[18:48] <Unit193> Or the fact he was doing borderline rather than all out on it.
[18:49] <Unit193> Anyway, do you have a support question?
[18:49] <wxl> thanks for pointing out the obvious Unit193 ;)
[18:49] <frankken> right, say it, but don't say it, sounds like the chinese, outside voice vs inside voice
[18:49] <wxl> it's not what yo usay, it's how you say it that matters
[18:50] <frankken> right, its not if you say what your thinking but that you coat it with bull the right way lol
[18:50] <wxl> e.g. "hey i asked this already but i'll ask again in case no one saw it" versus "whine you guys are all ignoring me i hate you" ;)
[18:50] <frankken> both get the same, response, which will be a link to the rules
[18:51] <wxl> i should also point out that such rules are pretty ubiquitous and not just in this channel
[18:51] <wxl> so good luck with your spilled milk, frankken
[18:53] <frankken> lol, wxl, all that emotion, actually got you to speak instead of sitting not responding at all,,, curse that emotion! lololol
[18:55] <wxl> frankken: i responded because it didn't seem like the responses were directly dealing with your concerns. that's all. i wish i had the time i read every thing here while i work, but i don't. i happened to notice.
[18:55] <frankken> thx for the link, i'll send the flash question there and see what happens,
[18:55] <wxl> frankken: so not only are you wrong but your further complaining (rather than appreciating people offering you free help on their own time) is only, i would imagine, giving people reason to actually ignore you.
[18:56] <Myrtti> in other news I find that Firefox has an update, so it might fix the problem with flash.
[18:57] <frankken> i'm a big believer that trying to squash all of our emotions is what is making everything so crappy,    i'm convinced that the number one reason they don't want emotion in business is because it supress your concious and or allows you to more easily get over on others/disregard them
[18:57] <frankken> your hear still talking because your not happy
[18:58] <frankken> in my opinion better than sitting mindlessly , with some blah non opinion attitude toward everything because its just easier
[18:58] <frankken> you gave me a cool link andi was happy now your attacking me
[18:59] <wxl> i'm here because i'm trying desperately to portray to you just how ridiculous your behavior is and how counterproductive it is. i'd really like for you and ever other user to get help but my impression is starting to become that i'd rather not help you with anything. which is to say, i'm done with you.
[18:59] <frankken> and i'm still the jerk?
[18:59] <frankken> done with me? were not in business together lol and your nobody to be done with anyone else
[19:01] <morri> hi guys,
[19:01] <Myrtti> hi morri
[19:01] <morri> I got an error which came up just after I wanted to buy something at ubuntuone using banshee
[19:02] <morri> http://pastebin.com/R6691t0h
[19:05] <frankken> maybe try deleting your 10-ptrace.conf
[19:05] <frankken> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41629/after-upgrade-gdb-wont-attach-to-process
[19:06] <morri> I havent been doing any updates recently (for 2 weeks or so)
[19:07] <frankken> updates are usually safe, however not always so thats reallly your call but it may fix it
[19:09] <wxl> morri: which versions are we talking about here?
[19:09] <morri> 11.10
[19:10] <frankken> personally i would try the update first, unless there was a specific reason you weren't doing them
[19:11] <morri> there werent any recently
[19:11] <wxl> i personally can't imagine why ptrace would be the cause of the problem more than it would be an issue with reporting what the actual problem was
[19:12] <frankken> the article was about the same error
[19:12] <wxl> if that patch mentioned in the link above is still in existence with 11.10 then you should be able to run banshee as su and not have the problem
[19:12] <morri> well I can only tell that it happended after I wanted to go to paypal from the banshee window
[19:14] <frankken> so the payment never went through? did you check your paypal account?
[19:14] <wxl> ah the limitations on ptrace are for security reasons https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#ptrace_Protection
[19:15] <frankken> oh huh, thats good work
[19:15] <morri> nah I never got to loginto paypal
[19:16] <frankken> ok
[19:16] <wxl> yeah i imagine it's trying to control a browser process and that's where it's failing
[19:17] <wxl> this may be a bug although this is surprising cuz it would not be limited to lubuntu
[19:17] <frankken> thats a darn good bug report
[19:18] <wxl> you could use the workaround mentioned in that first link but again for security reasons and especially given that money's involved i'd not recommend it
[19:19] <wxl> on the other hand it may be a bug hiding there
[19:20] <wxl> here they change the value of ptrace_scope as aforementioned and then run banshee --debug to find such a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/769545
[19:21] <morri> http://pastebin.com/CZV8XeR1 thats banshee as sudo, it didn't load anything what was setup before
[19:21] <wxl> again note the --debug
[19:22] <wxl> banshee being a gnome product is kind of funky because its development is on git and bugs are reported on bugzilla, not launchpad
[19:22] <wxl> that being said going upstream to gnome itself may make some more sense to see if they don't know something that we don't
[19:23] <wxl> they have a huge MESS of irc channels. it's not even funny.
[19:24] <wxl> there's an unofficial #gnome here on freenode but the rest are on irc.gnome.org. might try #gnome or #bugs
[19:24] <wxl> there is no #banshee
[19:24] <wxl> hope that helps morri
[19:26] <morri> http://pastebin.com/RbcZVDaW
[19:26] <morri> I'l see what they say , thanks :)
[19:26] <wxl> ** (Banshee:6214): WARNING **: Error rescanning Purchased Music: No such file or directory
[19:27] <wxl> but i don't think that's your problem
[19:27] <wxl> might be related somehow
[19:27] <wxl> maybe create the directory
[19:28] <morri> it is normally on ubuntu one cloud where it saves itsself
[19:28] <morri> and I don#
[19:28] <morri> t think i deleted the folder there
[19:29] <wxl> also:
[19:29] <wxl> /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed
[19:29] <wxl> has been reported across lots of packages
[19:29] <morri> the folder is still on the one cloud
[19:30] <wxl> well that's about all i can come up with
[19:30] <wxl> good luck :D
[19:30] <morri> thanks
[19:38] <morri> hm those channels don't look loaded with activity, *wouldnt wonder if a digital tumbleweed came across there)
[19:39] <wxl> morri: even irc://irc.gnome.org/gnome ??
[19:39] <wxl> if not then i'd say that given that gnome is more of an ubuntu than lubuntu thing i'd try at that digital madhouse that is #ubuntu
[19:41] <morri> yeah
[19:41] <morri> at least thats active although somebody just joined #bugs.
[20:14] <frankken> making some real progress on this flash issue, seems to be a well known bug for 11.2 and nvidia or noveau
[20:18] <morri> i remember that one
[20:20] <frankken> lol then its back
[20:20] <morri> hm so #gnome have no idea, and irc.gnome.org is in hibernation..
[20:21] <morri> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:22] <wxl> #ubuntu it is morri
[20:22] <morri> yea if they come down from the processor talk
[20:22] <wxl> like i saaid, digital madhouse :O
[20:23] <morri> lol
[21:11] <morri> http://pastebin.com/qENT0yiK
[21:11] <morri> think that says more?
[22:36] <herpy> will lubuntu 12.04 be LTS?
[22:36] <Unit193> The core, kernel and ubuntu stuff will be, but the LXDE/Lubuntu part will not.
[22:37] <herpy> So that is a no?
[22:38] <Unit193> It is in some ways, but not in others.  So mixed.
[22:38] <herpy> ah
[22:39] <herpy> Well you can upgrade to the latest release via update manager right?
[22:39] <Unit193> Yep.
[22:39] <herpy> works wiht lubuntu too?
[22:39] <herpy> with*
[22:40] <herpy> like if I do it it won't download ubuntu insted of lubuntu?
[22:40] <pAt> nnah herpy
[22:40] <Unit193> Hasn't on me yet, any of the times.
[22:40] <herpy> Just checking
[22:40] <herpy> I like that feature, saves me disks
[22:41] <Skater-AOA150> Lubuntu is pretty much compatible with any ubuntu
[22:41] <herpy> I know that
[22:41] <Skater-AOA150> The main difference is LXDE
[22:41] <herpy> true
[22:42] <herpy> Just wanted to know that if I used the Update Manager that if it would install ubuntu insted of lubuntu
[22:42] <Skater-AOA150> Lol, my lubuntu GRUB says Debian the universal OS. :P
[22:43] <herpy> lol
[22:43] <Skater-AOA150> probably because I installed Gnome on it
[22:43] <herpy> I do not duel boot, just booting lubuntu
[22:44] <herpy> that happened on me when I installed Gnome on Ultimate Edition 3.0 gamers
[22:44] <Skater-AOA150> ah lol
[22:44] <herpy> I do not like gnome, too recource hungry for me
[23:09] <n-iCe> hi just burned and booted from lubuntu alternate
[23:09] <n-iCe> but says: this kernel requires the following features not presen on the cpu: cmov
[23:09] <n-iCe> what's that
[23:12] <wxl> n-iCe: hate to say it but you might be upa  creek without a paddle http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595646
[23:12] <n-iCe> I was reading that
[23:13] <n-iCe> so, I cannot use lubuntu in that pc?
[23:14] <wxl> sounds like you can't use any ubuntu at all
[23:14] <wxl> maybe no debian derivates at all :O
[23:14] <wxl> you could use an older version
[23:15] <wxl> or cross-compile your own kernel
[23:16] <wxl> try 10.04 http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download
[23:17] <n-iCe> oh no
[23:17] <n-iCe> I will keep XP then
[23:17] <n-iCe> Lees problems
[23:17] <n-iCe> Less
[23:17] <n-iCe> that's sad
[23:17] <n-iCe> thanks anyway
[23:17] <wxl> more malware
[23:18] <wxl> i'm sure there are other distros that have it
[23:18] <wxl> ok talking to mysel
[23:33] <herpy> XD