[04:06] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro, do you have time for a PM ?
[04:14] <bodhi_zazen> Is there any group or team that is focused on maintaining the community wiki ?
[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[06:35] <hobgoblin> good morning dholbach
[06:36] <dholbach> hi hobgoblin
[06:37] <hobgoblin> good weekend?
[06:43] <dholbach> yeah, pretty good - how was yours?
[06:43] <hobgoblin> other than wet it was good - I also have the rest of the week of :)
[06:47] <bkerensa> Hello dholbach
[06:47] <dholbach> hi bkerensa
[06:48] <dholbach> forestpiskie, nice
[06:48] <forestpiskie> I hope so dholbach - but I just saw the forecast lol
[06:48] <forestpiskie> I suppose april is the time of the year to have april showers ...
[06:50] <dholbach> we had snow yesterday and 17°C today
[06:50] <dholbach> typical April weather
[06:52] <nigelb> 17C. Woah.
[06:52] <nigelb> We have 31C :(
[06:53] <dholbach> nigelb, it was a bit colder in the days before :)
[06:53] <nigelb> dholbach: "a bit" hehe
[06:54] <forestpiskie> hi nigelb - long time - rarely seen :)
[06:55] <nigelb> forestpiskie: Heya!
[06:56] <nigelb> I'm around. But at sane time for my timezone :P
[06:56] <forestpiskie> lol
[07:12] <bkerensa> Good Night!
[07:12] <dpm> good morning! :)
[07:14] <nigelb> g'morning dpm :)
[07:14] <forestpiskie> good mornaftereveight everyone
[07:27] <dpm> hey nigelb and all
[08:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:30]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[09:30] <dpm> :-)
[09:31] <popey> /26/26
[09:31] <popey> bah!
[12:42] <jono> morning all
[12:43] <dholbach> hey jono
[12:46] <jono> hey dholbach
[12:46] <jono> thanks for looking at the packaging
[12:46] <dholbach> de nada
[12:46] <jono> it looks like I managed to fix the GUI side of things
[12:46] <dholbach> let me know if there's anything more I can do
[12:47] <jono> I will take a look at your mergew
[12:47] <jono> thanks dholbach!
[12:47] <dholbach> I might have overlooked some other cases, but putting some path determination in place seemed reasonable to me - it should be easily extensible for other paths/files you might need to access
[12:52] <dholbach> jono, is it 5:51 over there or is my clock askew?
[12:52] <jono> yep thats right, dholbach
[12:52] <jono> 6a meeting
[12:52] <jono> 6am
[12:52] <dholbach> holy cow
[12:52] <jono> :)
[12:52] <dholbach> I hope you have some strong tea/coffee
[12:52] <dholbach> or ice cold shower - whatever works
[12:53] <jono> hehe
[12:53] <jono> the coffee is doing its thing as we speak :-)
[12:54] <cjohnston> jono: Could you please take a look at the whiteboard of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-summit -- I think it may be a worthwhile topic, but I think it is misplaced in the Summit blueprint.. What are your thoughts?
[12:55] <jono> cjohnston, what topic?
[12:55] <cjohnston> Making UDS more beginner friendly would be the high-level topic
[12:57] <jono> seems like a good idea to me :-)
[12:58] <cjohnston> Ok.. I'll talk to him about it and get a session created for it.
[12:58] <jono> cool
[12:58] <cjohnston> I think its too broad of a topic to discuss in the summit session though :-)
[12:58] <jono> :-)
[12:59] <jono> dpm, mhall119 all set?
[12:59] <dpm> morning jono, mhall119, yep!
[13:42] <jono> dpm, mhall119 rejoining
[13:55] <dholbach> yo balloons
[13:56] <balloons> yo dholbach
[13:56] <balloons> how was your time off?
[13:56] <dholbach> great
[13:56] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[13:57] <balloons> working my way thru April
[13:57]  * dholbach makes some more tea
[13:57] <balloons> hehe
[13:57] <balloons> sounds fine
[13:57] <balloons> I'll go grab a beverage also and give you a ring
[13:58] <dholbach> awesome
[14:02] <dholbach> balloons, I'm ready
[14:03] <balloons> incoming
[14:05] <dholbach> balloons, are you starting the hangout?
[14:05] <dholbach> if not, I can do it
[14:05] <balloons> yes, it's started
[14:05] <dholbach> ok
[14:05] <balloons> do you see it?
[14:05] <dholbach> ah, here we go
[14:36] <jono> dpm, we lost you?
[15:01] <jono> alrighty
[15:01] <jono> team call
[15:01] <jono> team meeting, rather
[15:01] <jono> mhall119, dholbach, dpm, jcastro, balloons ^
[15:01] <dholbach> yep
[15:01] <jono> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <balloons> yarp
[15:01] <jono> roll up, roll up! it is time for the Canonical Community Team meeting!
[15:01] <jcastro> AWWWW YEAH
[15:02] <jono> welcome one and all to a series of summaries and other attractions
[15:02] <jono> :-)
[15:02] <jono> so...first up...
[15:02] <balloons> attractions or distractions? ;-)
[15:02] <jono> when he speaks...everyone listens
[15:02] <jono> when he dances...everyone gasps...
[15:02] <jono> when he gets developers involved...everyone packages...
[15:02] <jono> ...dholbach!
[15:02]  * dholbach blushes crimson
[15:03] <dholbach> thanks jono, but that's too much :-P
[15:03] <dholbach> alright, I had a short week because of people celebrating Easter in Germany, but here goes....
[15:03] <jono> :-)
[15:03] <mhall119> no, he's right about the dancing :)
[15:03] <dholbach>  ☺ Dev Advisory Team: New Contributors feedback report is still WIP, to be released this week. Helped a number of applicants to set up organise their applications.
[15:03] <dholbach>  ☺ Sponsoring: Some followup with people who did not tend to their piloting duties. Might have to improve the way to track sponsorship activities. Did some sponsoring myself.
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ Dev Infrastructure: fixed a bug in Harvest, so its API can better deal with consumers such as an Dev Opportunities Lens. :-) Blogged about Harvest, hoping to get some new contributors roped in.
[15:04] <dholbach> thanks mhall119 for answering some lens questions!
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ CC: some small improvements to CoC v2 draft, soon to be announced for public feedback.
[15:04] <dholbach>  ☺ 12.10 preparation: Finished first draft of 12.10 objectives.
[15:05] <dholbach>  ☺ Misc: Helped balloons with packaging of checkbox-app-testing-qt. Helped mhall119 get singlet/quickly-templates into precise. Signed up for UOW and UADW sessions. Helped jono to solve some accomplishments packaging issues. Short week due to Easter weekend → email catchup. Call with balloons to brainstorm about QA Developer Community growth.
[15:05] <dholbach> Done.
[15:05] <jono> thanks dholbach
[15:05] <jono> any questions for dholbach?
[15:06] <jcastro> is there anything important in CoC v2?
[15:06] <jcastro> like, any big changes? Or just a maintenance release?
[15:06] <dholbach> we rolled the Leadership CoC and the diversity statement into it
[15:06] <dholbach> and generally cleaned it up
[15:07] <jcastro> ah ok
[15:07] <dholbach> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sabdfl/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/view/head:/MergedCodeOfConduct.txt is the current draft
[15:08] <jono> any other questions for dholbach?
[15:08] <jono> alrighty
[15:08] <jono> next up...
[15:09] <jono> ...a man who is charming in more ways than you would imagine...
[15:10] <jono> ...a man who will get anyone (including your mum) running Juju in 12.10...
[15:10] <jono> ...jcastro!
[15:10] <jcastro> THANKS EVERYONE
[15:10] <jcastro> Today's summary is brought to you by the Tornado of Souls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-HzFACAedk
[15:10] <jcastro> ## juju
[15:10] <jcastro> - Charm contest over, about 10 new charms, winners will be announced right after this meeting.
[15:10] <jcastro> - 63 official charms, 24 community charmers
[15:11] <jcastro> - Charm store actually works now, just not in precise, this should be sorted this week.
[15:11] <jcastro> you can do "juju deploy cs:oneiric/wordpress" though in the meantime
[15:11] <jcastro> - Coordinating with people on Charm Contest for UDS
[15:11] <jcastro> ^^ purposely vague as the prizes will be excellent
[15:11] <jcastro> - Coordinated an "Ask me anything" with Rick Spencer: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rw6iu/iama_directory_of_engineering_for_canonical_i/
[15:11] <jcastro> - Charm school ODS material generation (stickers, etc.)
[15:12] <jcastro> - Calls with IS folks about cloud stuff, trying to find ways to get communtiy folks access to cloud resources.
[15:12] <jcastro> - Doc cleanup on lp:juju/docs because they are so horrible. Tricked other people to help out.
[15:12] <jcastro> ## Other
[15:12] <jcastro> - Initial 12.10 plan (YAY)
[15:12] <jcastro> - OpenWeek planning has begun and been announced.
[15:12] <jcastro> ^^^ Mark is available at an odd time this time, but other than that no issues
[15:12] <jcastro> - Need to do round #2 of plenary stuff today
[15:12] <jcastro> - Track leads all set in launchpad (thanks techboard)
[15:12] <jcastro> QUESTIONS?
[15:13] <jono> any questions for jcastro?
[15:13] <jcastro> I think they are enjoying the soundtrack more than the report
[15:13] <jono> haha
[15:14] <jono> alrighty!
[15:14] <balloons> 2 more mins on soundtrack jcastro
[15:14] <jono> ...he is competitive...driven...and focused...
[15:14] <jono> ...he demands the best out of himself and his peers...
[15:14] <dholbach> jcastro, I did not use juju yet (yes, a shame), but being able to use stuff like "cs:oneiric/wordpress" is awesome
[15:14] <jono> ...he will stop at nothing to get your filing bugs and testing Ubuntu...
[15:15] <jono> ...he has not experienced a break from house-guests for 21 years....
[15:15] <jono> ...balloons!
[15:15] <balloons> hah
[15:16] <balloons> you can hold your applause now
[15:16] <balloons> :-) jk
[15:16] <balloons> Alright, we had first qa meeting at new time -- 1400 UTC on Weds. Bigger crowd, new time seems to be working out for everyone. (Though, some like me had calendar snafu's and still showed up at 1700!)
[15:16] <balloons> if you missed it for some reason or another, get your calendar fixed now and plan to show up :-)
[15:16] <balloons> Put out the new checkbox tests for beta2 and issued a call for folks to run
[15:17] <balloons> There's more coverage than last time around, and it's using the -qt interface  now
[15:17] <balloons> the wiki is updated with screenshots of the new interface, otherwise it's the same workflow
[15:17] <balloons> Put out a call with jcastro and diogo to test and get hands dirty on MAAS.
[15:18] <balloons> Put out a call for Unity Testing; 5.10, the last Unity release before the end of cycle in precise. If you didn't get a chance to help out over the weeked and test, no worries. Unity 5.10 will be landing in precise by the end of the week. Look for it in an update-manager near you :-)
[15:19] <balloons> Put out a call for weekly iso testing. As we wind down the cycle to release, each Thursday we've committed to running the daily iso and reporting bugs we might find. As part of that, I will be hosting a q&a session on how to do iso testing -- look for more information and an announcement on the mailing list and my blog later today.
[15:20] <balloons> Had call with dholbach to discuss ideas on community growth, and background on the developer community as well as ways to interact and enhance the relationship.
[15:20] <balloons> ohh.. I almost forgot.. dholbach and I also had tea :-) very important.. dholbach did you have earl gray?
[15:21] <dholbach> no, an Oolong tea :)
[15:21] <balloons> ahh.. see clearly there's more work to be done here in collaborating with qa and development.. we'll have to meet again :-)
[15:21] <dholbach> yes, let's do that :)
[15:22] <balloons> that's it from me
[15:22] <balloons> Tho i do answer questions
[15:22] <jono> is that everything balloons?
[15:22] <balloons> and sometimes throw balloons if I don't like the question ;-)
[15:23] <jcastro> heh
 is that everything balloons?
[15:23] <jono> :-)
[15:24] <jono> j/k
[15:24] <jono> alrighty
[15:24] <jono> next up...
[15:24] <jono> ...some see him as the Chuck Norris of the translations world...
[15:24]  * balloons chucks a overfilled waterballoon at jono
[15:25] <jono> ...he will translate your app, and then he roundhouse kick you...
[15:25] <jono> ...a roundhouse kick of love and awesome hair...
[15:25] <jono> ...dpm!
[15:25] <dpm> o/
[15:25]  * dpm blushes
[15:25] <jono> :-)
[15:25] <dpm> Hey everyone
[15:26] <dpm> It was a short week for me due to extended Easter holidays too, but here we go:
[15:26] <dpm> Translators
[15:26] <dpm> * Fixed and updated stats and docs sites due to Canonistack breakage
[15:26] <dpm> * Replied and commented to several user interface exception requests
[15:27] <dpm> * Spent some time discussing and ironing out the details and schedule changes of the Ubuntu 12.04 complete Chinese translation with the Simplified Chinese translators and the Canonical PES team
[15:27] <dpm> * Conversation with mvo, pitti and andrejz about enabling the translation of some universe packages in Launchpad
[15:28] <dpm> * Several conversations and coordination around translating Ubuntu docs on the translators/documenters mailing lists
[15:28] <dpm> App developers
[15:28] <dpm> * Call with mhall119 as a follow-up to the published Unity docs on d.u.c (mhall119 I still need to fix those code example links, but it's on my TODO)
[15:29] <dpm> Other
[15:29] <dpm> * Prepared some notes and had a call with jono to discuss areas of focus for next cycle
[15:29] <dpm> * Done quite a lot of e-mail catch up today after coming back online today
[15:30] <dpm> And I think that was me for the summary
[15:30] <dpm> Any questions?
[15:32] <jono> any questions for dpm?
[15:34] <jono> ok then
[15:34] <jono> next up...
[15:35] <jono> ...a man who introduced "Bonjour Unity" to all of us...
[15:35] <jono> ...a man who will leave no stone unturned in improving the app experience in Ubuntu...
[15:35] <jono> ...mhall119!
[15:35] <mhall119> \o/
[15:35] <mhall119> * Finished first draft of Unity development docs
[15:35] <mhall119> send to DX team for review
[15:36] <mhall119> * Started on first draft of Unity testing docs
[15:36] <mhall119> got some screenshots of checkbox-unity
[15:36] <mhall119> * Added Message Menu and Notification examples to Hello Unity
[15:36] <mhall119> * Packaged Hello Unity
[15:37] <mhall119> * Setup Hello Unity for translations in Launchpad
[15:37] <mhall119> and we have an *amazing* translations community
[15:37] <mhall119> * Added UDS rooms to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q and scheduled some Chrome meetings using cjohnston's new "create meeting" feature.
[15:38] <mhall119> * Reached out to Bryan Lunduke about adding more Unity integration into Linux Tycoon, it's already on track for getting into USC
[15:39] <mhall119> * Lots of planning with jono for world dominations^H^H getting more app developers
[15:39] <mhall119> Helped Eduard Gotwig, author of the Cooking Lens for Unity, prepare his membership application, and this morning he was unanimously approved \o/
[15:40] <mhall119> (Ubuntu Membership)
[15:40] <jono> :-)
[15:40] <mhall119> that's it for me, any questions?
[15:40] <jono> any questions for mhall119?
[15:40] <balloons> mhall119, awesome news on the ubuntu membership mentoring
[15:41] <mhall119> balloons: you're next my friend :)
[15:41] <jono> indeed
[15:41] <jono> YOU WILL BE ONE OF US
[15:41] <jono> alrighty, I guess I am up last
[15:41] <balloons> www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8
[15:41] <jono>  * Team looking good, coming into the final stretches of 12.04. I am proud of everyone's work. Burndown looking good.
[15:42] <jono> balloons, lol
[15:42] <jono>  * Working on performance reviews for the team.
[15:42] <jono> (everyone is doing perf reviews, nothing to worry about :-) )
[15:42] <jono>  * I was away on vacation, spent much of this week catching up with email and calls, and syncing back up with the team and our stakeholders.
[15:42] <jono>  * 12.10:
[15:42] <jono>  - A big chunk of this week has been putting plans in place for 12.10, cooridnating with the team, stakeholders and more.
[15:43] <jono>   - The team have been constructing their respective strategies. Lots of calls.
[15:43] <jono>   - Long brainstorming session today with dpm and mhall119 around app devs in 12.10. Going to be a big push there.
[15:43] <jono>  * UDS:
[15:43] <jono>   - Planning going well.
[15:43] <jono>   - Sponsorship finalized.
[15:43] <jono>   - Coordinating the plenaries and keynotes. Coordinating with sponsor needs.
[15:43] <jono>   - Also, if you are coming to UDS and arrive on the Saturday before UDS, my band (Severed Fifth) will be playing a show on Saturday night. Feel free to come along!
[15:44] <mhall119> free tickets?
[15:44] <jono> mhall119, unfortunately not, need to figure out the ticket costs
[15:44] <jono> should be no more than $10 I imagine
[15:44] <mhall119> at least we can hangout with the band after :)
[15:44] <jono> and we play first so people can come to the show and then take off after
[15:44] <jono> hehe
[15:44] <jono> indeed
[15:44] <jono>  * QA:
[15:44] <jono>   - Putting strategy in place for 12.10 QA.
[15:44] <jono>   - There will be a strong focus on lowering the bar for testers as well as delivering tests to users of the development branch.
[15:44] <jono>  * Ubuntu Accomplishments:
[15:45] <jono>   - Lots of great progress.
[15:45] <jono>   - Working towards 0.1. Locked down features and now focusing on bug-fixing.
[15:45] <jono>   - Enabled translations support for the accomplishments sets (http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/04/07/translation-help-needed-how-to-translate-ubuntu-accomplishments/) and the daemon/client (http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/04/09/ubuntu-accomplishments-localized-documentation-update/). Thanks to everyone who has participated!
[15:45] <jono> we need more help though, so please contribute :-)
[15:45] <jono>   - Split the codebase out to start building packages. Client works, now focusing on the daemon (thanks dholbach!).
[15:45] <jono>   - 0.1 release planned for the release of Ubuntu 12.04 (running from a PPA).
[15:45] <jono> and that is it from me
[15:45] <jono> any questions?
[15:46] <mhall119> is there a tutorial for writing accomplishments?
[15:46] <jono> mhall119, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Creating
[15:47] <jono> alright, I think we are done
[15:47] <jono> let's wrap it
[15:47] <jono> thanks, folks!
[15:47] <dholbach> Maverick just EOL'ed. Keep a spot in your heart for these fellows: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S7YLWsTGZPI/AAAAAAAAAu8/30qqBsoOncs/maverick%20meerkat%20-%20ubuntu%2010.10.jpg
[15:47] <jono> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 10 15:47:23 2012 UTC.
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[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-10-15.01.html
[16:18] <bodhi_zazen> I am looking to connect some people on the forums with the documentation team to help support the community wiki.
[16:18] <bodhi_zazen> Can anyone suggest a contact person ?
[16:33] <technoviking> bodhi_zazen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contact
[16:34] <technoviking> But I think people could starting editing any wiki page they feel they could contribute too.
[16:37] <czajkowski> it's a wiki anyone can edit it :)
[16:43] <bodhi_zazen> OK, well, I think I am going to sort of jump in with some people from the forums and start maintaining the community wiki then
[16:43] <bodhi_zazen> I sent an email to -docs, yesterday, unanswered as of yet
[16:46] <czajkowski> bodhi_zazen: easter holidays for many maybe they will reply during the weekn
[16:46] <czajkowski> *week
[17:01] <jcastro> bkerensa: ok winners announced on cloud.u.c
[17:02] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!
[17:05] <balloons> jcastro, ohh!
[17:16] <czajkowski> bodhi_zazen: hopefully this project will help make the process smooth https://launchpad.net/ubforums-2-ubwiki
[17:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: ok then :) /me goes to spend the loot
[17:32] <jcastro1> Hello cloud folks!
[17:32] <jcastro1> from my personal cloud at home and subway!
[17:32] <jcastro> jcastro1: really dude ... it's not that awesome
[17:32] <jcastro1> heh
[17:33] <jcastro1> bkerensa: ok so only thing I seem to be missing is like ssl support and stuff for the work IRC
[17:33] <jcastro1> other than that, it seems more stable than before
[17:33] <forestpiskie> czajkowski: we know about that - guy doing it has been working with us, it's pretty awesome :)
[17:34] <marcoceppi> jcastro1: so subway is shaping up?
[17:34] <jcastro1> yeah
[17:34] <jcastro1> I'm going to switch to it for a while.
[17:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: Openphoto charm will be next
[17:35] <bkerensa> :D
[17:37] <jcastro1> marcoceppi: ah, the reflow on window resize is still busted
[17:38] <jcastro1> marcoceppi: hah, /nick doesn't seem to be implemented
[17:39] <marcoceppi> ha, jcastro1 yay early alphas!
[17:47] <bodhi_zazen> czajkowski: That LP page was started by the team that I am referring to here, part of the thread I shared with you the other day http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949027
[17:51] <bodhi_zazen> czajkowski: I am trying to coordinate that LP team with the doc team, looking for a contact
[17:57] <jbicha> bodhi_zazen: the docs team is rather small
[17:57] <jbicha> you'll probably end up having to recruit your own volunteer help as I don't think we have extra
[17:59] <jcastro> What's blocking the move from happening?
[18:03] <jcastro> "I guess I'll have to move to Howtoforge... "
[18:03] <jcastro> hah
[18:03] <jcastro> come on, seriously
[18:05] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro nothing blocking us, we will go forward, we just want to coordinate with community, not duplicate effort, etc
[18:06] <jcastro> the big list on the wiki page of articles looks like a good start
[18:06] <bodhi_zazen> I think I have 2 or 3 very solid people willing to contribute, so will move forward with some team contributing to community wiki
[18:06] <jcastro> when I helped the mythbuntu guys
[18:06] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro we are working on a script to semi-automate the transcription process
[18:06] <jcastro> a good number of those old articles just didn't need to be moved
[18:06] <jcastro> so we just removed them
[18:07]  * jcastro nods
[18:07] <bodhi_zazen> yea, the list / wiki needs some love
[18:07] <jcastro> I wish we had mediawiki or something better. :-/
[18:08] <bodhi_zazen> Do you know if we can use #ubuntu-wik for coordination of effort ?
[18:08] <bodhi_zazen> s/ #ubuntu-wiki
[18:09] <jcastro> sure, just snag it, ask someone in #ubuntu-irc to register/log it for you
[18:10] <jcastro> bodhi_zazen: I have the same problem of Ask Ubuntu
[18:10] <jcastro> We need to move the list questions to the wiki
[18:11] <jcastro> but doing so is basically a kiss of death
[18:11] <jcastro> so we have these sort-of open-but-we-don't-want-new-ones list questions we can't put anywhere else
[18:11] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro can we start with the forums, then recruit from askubuntu ?
[18:12] <jcastro> what do you mean recruit?
[18:12] <bodhi_zazen> recruit or transcribe great answers to wiki
[18:12] <jcastro> the appropriate ones, sure
[18:13] <jcastro> but we try to enforce using official docs on AU, so ideally an answer would answer the question, quoting the right section of the doc, and then leaving a link to the right page
[18:13] <bodhi_zazen> I would probably contact askubuntu or meta for coordination of effort or identification of answers they would like to see transcribed
[18:13] <jcastro> I can tell you which ones
[18:13] <jcastro> all the list ones
[18:14] <jcastro> "list of application indicators", etc.
[18:14] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro let me get back to you on that when we are ready
[18:14] <jcastro> I am blocking on a markdown -> moin script anyway
[18:15] <marcoceppi> jcastro bodhi_zazen http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/software-recommendation
[18:15] <jcastro> and I've already asked people if they want to do them by hand, which of course they were like "no thanks."
[18:15] <marcoceppi> err, http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/software-recommendation?sort=votes
[18:15] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro I have someone who can probably script it
[18:15] <bodhi_zazen> scripting makes it much easier
[18:15] <jcastro> also, mhall119 was prototyping SUMO for wiki stuff, but I don't know how that's coming along
[18:16] <jcastro> bodhi_zazen: AU has an api too, we can probably just point it at a tag, have it generate a bunch of moin pages, and then just copy them over.
[18:17] <bodhi_zazen> jcastro sounds great
[18:17] <bodhi_zazen> let me build a community wiki team and get started on some of this stuff
[18:18] <czajkowski> I dont think we need more teams bodhi_zazen
[18:18] <czajkowski> we dont need a community wiki team, we have a community people will get involved
[18:18] <czajkowski> and we have a doc team
[18:19] <bodhi_zazen> I respectfully disagree czajkowski
[18:19] <czajkowski> ok
[18:20] <bodhi_zazen> wiki takes some coordination and doc team is focused on official documentation as far as I can tell
[18:20] <czajkowski> fair enough
[18:21] <pleia2> the documentation team does have a team that works on /community wiki specifically
[18:22] <bodhi_zazen> pleia2: is the doc team active on community wiki ? If so, I have a few team members to send their way
[18:23] <bodhi_zazen> If not, I would like to try to get it active again
[18:23] <pleia2> bodhi_zazen: yep, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki
[18:23] <pleia2> the link I gave you yesterday has details for joining the wiki team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Organization#Requirements_for_Ubuntu_Documentation_Wiki_Administrators
[18:24] <bodhi_zazen> some of hose wiki pages seem to need a little love pleia2
[18:25] <pleia2> yeah, but I think continuing to work on those pages is a better way forward than creating a whole new team outside of docs
[18:25] <pleia2> there are active members of that wiki docs team
[18:25] <czajkowski> indeed like I just said already :/
[18:29] <daker> anyone can points me where i can fill bug about this issue https://plus.google.com/101694416703170881163/posts/2G3egDWvXCL ?
[18:30] <bodhi_zazen> I am not looking to create a whole new team
[18:30] <bodhi_zazen> I am looking for a contact on the docs team
[18:30] <pleia2> it's ashame no one on the -doc list replied to your email, maybe be more explict about your want to contact wiki admins specifically?
[18:30] <bodhi_zazen> I've no answer on #ubuntu-doc or to my post to the docs mailing list, so I am asking here for assistance in contacting docs team
[18:31] <pleia2> and you can just start working on things on help.ubuntu.com/community/ and then ask for specific assistance as needed (they may respond to that better)
[18:31] <bodhi_zazen> I am noticing work here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki/Tasks/Forum/import
[18:32] <bodhi_zazen> which I have a group of people wanting to help with
[18:32] <pleia2> unfortunately they are used to people coming to them with proposals and never actually following-through, so I'd recommend putting some work in
[18:33] <bodhi_zazen> pleia2: That is what I am proceeding with, which is very different form starting a whole new team
[18:33] <pleia2> what is the barrier?
[18:33] <bodhi_zazen> I do not see one
[18:33] <pleia2> help.ubuntu.com/community/ is open for editing, just have people start editing :)
[18:33] <pleia2> wiki admins are only really needed for things like deleting pages
[18:34] <pleia2> when they run into trouble, they can ask for specific help on the -doc list
[18:34] <bodhi_zazen> That is how we shall proceed pleia2
[18:35] <bodhi_zazen> you and czajkowski are the two who have voiced concerns
[18:36] <pleia2> I think your initial email was sufficient for letting the team know your plans, if they had any concerns I think you would have heard
[21:33] <bkerensa> bodhi_zazen: Did you get your doc-team matter addressed?
[22:43] <bodhi_zazen> bkerensa: looking to coordinate with doc team
[22:44] <bodhi_zazen> seems the consensus is to move forward
[22:44] <bodhi_zazen> Have a team in interested people starting in #ubuntu-wiki
[22:45] <bkerensa> bodhi_zazen: I'm on the Doc-Team.... Sometimes our leads are hard to get a hold of but jbicha is the guy
[22:45] <bkerensa> :D
[22:45] <bodhi_zazen> Great
[22:45] <bodhi_zazen> we are not looking to re-invent the wheel, just contribute
[22:46] <bodhi_zazen> bobweaver is working on a script to transcribe high quality forums post -> wiki pages
[22:46] <bodhi_zazen> The discussion is scattered, see this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949027
[22:47] <bodhi_zazen> All of the people who have contributed to tutorials on the forums, who have objected in that thread, I have had personal contact and they now seem more willing to assist